swaying and sperm spinning

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic so you think it's common practice to give clomid as part of the spinning and IUI?


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Yes. Some use injectibles but in at least a few studies I have seen, they did Clomid + trigger + IUI for a girl, and then for boys they did timed intercourse (they waited for O and then did a trigger when it was coming close) and IUI. I believe this explains a lot of the supposed results with the spinning.

[atomic sagebrush]

One of my IUIs I didn't even ovulate. On Femara, but the doc thinks I triggered too soon. I triggered on CD 9 and got AF on CD 17.

THat happens quite a bit and one of the reasons why I don't love IUI as a general rule. The clinics work around nights and weekends and other people's appointments and it is just all too easy for htem to get the timing wrong. :/

[HealthyGirl]

Atomic
So Are you saying as part of spinning and IUI for a boy they give clomid as well ?
Im a little confused on what a trigger shot is.


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[Magical22]

Atomic
So Are you saying as part of spinning and IUI for a boy they give clomid as well ?
Im a little confused on what a trigger shot is.


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A trigger shot is what makes you ovulate, have the trigger which is a needle in the belly and you will ovulate in 36 hours time.


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[smarston3]

Here's what I'm thinking about sperm spinning now. What if we get an opposite. I would be pissed! More importantly, I would be wondering if I would have gotten a girl on my own swaying..atomic is your crystal ball back from the shop yet?! Hehe


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[HealthyGirl]

Nothing is guaranteed even a sway.
It's a lot cheaper than IVF and if it increases your odds to %70-%75 I personally don't mind doing it.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic
So Are you saying as part of spinning and IUI for a boy they give clomid as well ?
Im a little confused on what a trigger shot is.


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It depends on the clinic's unique protocal but I have read many studies where they DON'T give Clomid for those who want boys. They wait till the egg is ready to "pop" on its own and then give a "trigger shot" which causes ovulation to happen within a given time span, then do IUI at that point (trying to hit ovulation).

Thus - many of the statistics that these clinics quote are NOT based on their own results, but on these studies (which I have read) and many of these used the following protocol:

Clomid + trigger shot + whatever spinning they do + IUI for a girl.

Trigger shot + whatever spinning they do + IUI for a boy.

See the difference there?? Not all the clinics are doing this but I have read many studies where they did exactly that.

[atomic sagebrush]

Here's what I'm thinking about sperm spinning now. What if we get an opposite. I would be pissed! More importantly, I would be wondering if I would have gotten a girl on my own swaying..atomic is your crystal ball back from the shop yet?! Hehe


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I have a very good friend who spent many thousands of dollars on Microsort (which is MUCH more effective at weeding out X and Y sperm than sperm spinning) and got a 92% X sperm sort with it. Got an opposite and it was absolutely devastating for her.

[atomic sagebrush]

Nothing is guaranteed even a sway.
It's a lot cheaper than IVF and if it increases your odds to %70-%75 I personally don't mind doing it.


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THe problem is though, that in the end, it tends to take SO many more cycles than IVF to get pregnant that people who go this route often spend as much or nearly as much as people do on one round of IVF and don't get pregnant. And let's say what if you spent that money, did 6 cycles, got pregnant on the last one and got an opposite??

I am not trying to push ANYONE to sway at all. I just hate to see people think they're getting something when it's being misrepresented. IF you want a baby of a particular gender and you can't handle an opposite, do IVF/PGD. IF you can't afford that, I think swaying, esp. with Clomid or Femara, makes a heck of a lot more sense. But it's up to each indivual person what they want to do and feel comfortable with.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh and PS, there was a woman on here who was going to do sperm spinning with a pretty big name outfit and they did her IUI 3-4 days before she ovulated. It is IMPOSSIBLE for washed sperm to live 3-4 days. This clinic took her money (and this went on for months BFN after BFN) and they did her IUI at a point in time that she could not possibly have gotten pregnant with it.

I'm sorry if I sound like a Negative Nelly here, I just hate to see you guys pay out the nose for something that is NOT WORTH IT. I'll shut up now.