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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreaming_blue_and_pink View Post
    For me personally before swaying I liked looking at what other people with girls did and didn't do and also their thoughts about what worked for them even if they weren't FACTS. I thought this site supported that but now that I was told my information is invalid even though NO ONE KNOWS what my body did or didn't do... I'm a little thrown back
    If you like reading what other girl moms did to get their girls there's a great thread on here titled "How we made girls...by girl moms!" that's a super long and eye opening read.

    Here's the link: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/tryi...pink-dust.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreaming_blue_and_pink View Post
    I am not trying to offend ANYONE but you guys do understand a plan from atomic is NOT a guarantee of desired gender. She does NOT KNOW what will and won't work for YOU. I don't know if you are referring to me... but my sway WORKED, that is a FACT, not theory or idea. And just as I have my opinions and ideas and thoughts atomic does also. NOT EVERYTHING she says is a fact. For me personally before swaying I liked looking at what other people with girls did and didn't do and also their thoughts about what worked for them even if they weren't FACTS. I thought this site supported that but now that I was told my information is invalid even though NO ONE KNOWS what my body did or didn't do... I'm a little thrown back
    I really do not get why this has ANYTHING to do with your sway working or not working. And every person will testify that I have mentioned about a thousand times that a sway plan is not a guarantee of gender and I don't love the implication that I have ever done otherwise.

    You're not reading what I wrote. I have now said twice that it may have been true for you. But that doesn't mean that O pain is a reliable way of pinpointing ovulation for any other person or for you in the future. It is not my opinion, it has been studied by scientists in the laboratory and proven that you can't RELIABLY tell when you ovulate on the basis of O pains, symptoms, temping, or any other thing. I have a bookshelf full of studies fertility books written by doctors and researchers that prove that. Plus, my own experience with many more women than one person has confirmed it to me as fact when I have people who think they ovulated from one side based on pain and then go in to ultrasound only to find that they Oed on the other side.

    The experience of ONE person (even if true) does not outweigh the experiences of hundreds/thousands. O pain isn't a reliable marker of when/if you ovulated and from what side.

    I'm not reading this thread any more because it isn't worth my time to continue to reply to a person who is obviously not reading what I wrote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    I'm not reading this thread any more because it isn't worth my time to continue to reply to a person who is obviously not reading what I wrote.
    Clearly just someone wanting to go in circles and interpret things to fit their argument.
    Invest your time elsewhere Atomic, it will most likely be better appreciated on other threads.


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    Quote Originally Posted by True Blue View Post
    Dreaming_blue_and _pink I'm not aiming anything at you & I'm sorry if you felt I was. I know 100% swaying is not a guarantee. All I'm saying is that we would all have ourselves tied in knots if we took on board every little thing people say has worked FOR THEM and try to make it work for us. Simply because what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for everyone.
    Atomics sways cannot guarantee our DG and that is stated many times throughout this forum. What it may do is sway the odds in our favor with methods that have been thoroughly researched and are proving to work.
    A sway from Atomic is also focused on the health of us moms which is something that is lacking anywhere else.
    I'm sorry if you felt I was having a go at you, I'm not.
    There was a time I swore to people shettles method worked for me, I now know it doesn't work, it didn't work. The odds are always 50/50 and it was pure coincidence it landed in my favor. If you understand what I'm saying to you is you can't guarantee if something works once that it will work for anyone else, or even for you, if you were to do exactly the same thing again.
    I don't think Atomic was saying you were wrong, what I think she was saying is just because it may have worked that way for you doesn't mean it can be applied to others.

    I'm so happy your sway worked for you & pray I can say the same one day.
    On some of the other sway sites that is exactly what happened. Everyone was trying to do everything that anyone ever showed up saying worked for them. It ended up being horrible and unworkable, ruined peoples lives/marriages/health, took years off their fertility which is a big issue for those who are not 21 years old. People were doing things like having sex 48 hours after ovulation that make it impossible to get pregnant because one person would show up claiming they KNOW they Oed then because of O pains or whatever. I want to facilitate people getting pregnant as possible and also in a healthy and sane way and thus I focus on the things that are going to work best for the other 99 people instead of the one in 100 who possibly really did feel ovulation.

    Y'all are always free to do whatever you want in a sway. That's why I leave up the old-school sway advice on the site. But I just encourage people to hear the other side instead of just blindly doing it because someone thinks it worked for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adia View Post
    Clearly just someone wanting to go in circles and interpret things to fit their argument.
    Invest your time elsewhere Atomic, it will most likely be better appreciated on other threads.
    It was such a good thread though!! Anyone who still has q's on the original topic please start a new one.
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    You have asked for your info and account to be deleted and I will have that done. I am honestly not sure how I could have been more polite in this thread but I wish you well.
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    Dreaming- there are no facts when it comes to swaying and we are very clear on that issue. There is way more to swaying than when you O so whatever you think you know to be fact isn't.

    I am just now seeing all this...don't see anything offensive...if the site is not for you the easy thing to do is log off.
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