FR OR ABSTAIN TO CONCEIVE PINK - POLL

[squigglepink]

Is the regular release every 2 - 4 days considered boy frequency or am I getting my wires crossed? Don't know why I'm getting hung up on this now.. something made me read up on it all again.

[amelia10]

Personally I think it has nothing to do with when, how or how often u dtd ... But more about your internal environment favouring a particular sperm type, which all comes down to diet. I could be wrong but I've delaying my attempt for two more mths so I can focus on the Le Diet before my 1st attempt ...

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[atomic sagebrush]

Is the regular release every 2 - 4 days considered boy frequency or am I getting my wires crossed? Don't know why I'm getting hung up on this now.. something made me read up on it all again.

Technically it is, but just to put this into context, originally we started off thinking "well, since timing cannot be swaying since it's been debunked, it must be frequency" and put a lot of focus onto that. No one ever even stopped to think it could be number of attempts doing anything at all. But we found VERY quickly that it simply had to be number of attempts, with a very strong trend that 1 attempt = more girls, 3 attempts = more boys (we were getting 60-65% boys with 3 attempts even with GREAT pink sways! and in our blue sways 3 attempts is at 76% boys) and 2 attempts falling nicely in the middle with this mathematical precision that we could probably graph it haha.

In the meantime the frequency stuff has not panned out. THUS, I began using regular release with one attempt for pink, in men that could not do abstain nor FR, and still got good results. Additionally, e4d (where by default DH is releasing every 4) is also getting great results. SO PLEASE don't worry about hubby releasing every 2-4 days being this strong blue sway - it is the number of attempts that is swaying, some how, some way, even though we do not have any clue as to why that is.

[atomic sagebrush]

Personally I think it has nothing to do with when, how or how often u dtd ... But more about your internal environment favouring a particular sperm type, which all comes down to diet. I could be wrong but I've delaying my attempt for two more mths so I can focus on the Le Diet before my 1st attempt ...

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Well, our results are showing that it DOES have something to do with the number of times you DTD but yes yes yes it's also clear from our statistics and results that diet also is a very effective sway tactic.

[squigglepink]

Technically it is, but just to put this into context, originally we started off thinking "well, since timing cannot be swaying since it's been debunked, it must be frequency" and put a lot of focus onto that. No one ever even stopped to think it could be number of attempts doing anything at all. But we found VERY quickly that it simply had to be number of attempts, with a very strong trend that 1 attempt = more girls, 3 attempts = more boys (we were getting 60-65% boys with 3 attempts even with GREAT pink sways! and in our blue sways 3 attempts is at 76% boys) and 2 attempts falling nicely in the middle with this mathematical precision that we could probably graph it haha.

In the meantime the frequency stuff has not panned out. THUS, I began using regular release with one attempt for pink, in men that could not do abstain nor FR, and still got good results. Additionally, e4d (where by default DH is releasing every 4) is also getting great results. SO PLEASE don't worry about hubby releasing every 2-4 days being this strong blue sway - it is the number of attempts that is swaying, some how, some way, even though we do not have any clue as to why that is.

Ok. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Princess4me]

So what is best: abstaining for 7 days then doing 1 attempt with a 3/4 day cut off. OR every second day? Hubby cant maintain every day.

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[dmaz4]

oh my goodness. That was an overwhelming read. So my dh and I are doing abstain for 7+ days then one attempt at +opk. Should we rethink that? With my first son, we DTD every other day all the way from end of AF through O. With our second son, we DTD every day from the end AF through O. I thought maybe abstaining would be best but now I'm second guessing myself. Maybe he should DTD every 4 days and then do a hurry up FR on +opk instead??? Which has better results?

[atomic sagebrush]

So what is best: abstaining for 7 days then doing 1 attempt with a 3/4 day cut off. OR every second day? Hubby cant maintain every day.

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DO not DTD every second day unless you are swaying blue (and even for blue swayers there are better ways)

One attempt is best. One attempt works. Neither abstain nor cutoff really works. If you want to include them, that is up to you, but whatever you do, keep that one attempt till you've dropped all other sway tactics.

[atomic sagebrush]

oh my goodness. That was an overwhelming read. So my dh and I are doing abstain for 7+ days then one attempt at +opk. Should we rethink that? With my first son, we DTD every other day all the way from end of AF through O. With our second son, we DTD every day from the end AF through O. I thought maybe abstaining would be best but now I'm second guessing myself. Maybe he should DTD every 4 days and then do a hurry up FR on +opk instead??? Which has better results?

You guys can't compare those things because different groups of people use them. The results are irrelevant because it's not a blind side by side study with control groups.

As long as you do one attempt, that is what matters most. See if you can get pregannt with one attempt.

With your boys, you had several attempts and that sways blue. So don't get too focused on your husband's frequency when it was much more likely the number of times you had sex that was swaying blue for you (plus a lot of other lifestyle things)

Releasing every 4 days and then hurry up FR is a decent sway tactic IMO. It will cut odds of conception though and we don't have enough people who did that for me to be able to point to any results on it.

[Parying4agirl]

It never comes down to one thing like that.

Neither FR nor abstain has gotten stellar results. Doing one attempt in fertile window has been much better than either.

I got my daughter BD every 4 days and doing LE Diet

Hi atomic when you say u bed e4d, is this dtd on mon and again fri?

Would this be releasing or actual bedding?
Im confused as if i did e4d, should i do an attempt at pos opk or does this then sway blue?
With e4d doesnt this reduce the chance of pink that one day it may be 3 days away from ovulation and the next 4th day attempt is after ovulation - does that make sense?