Swaying after miscarriage

[RaisingGentlemen3]

Thank you atomic! I have looked into the aspirin thing and decided against it since I bruise easily already. I have had a lot of cm lately but so far it's been watery/creamy. With that info in mind, I think I will just take an opk every day starting tomorrow and keep track like normal. I ordered more opks too so should be plenty. I really don't want to miss this egg!

Abc, that's crazy there weren't any obnoxious symptoms before you found out! I think my dh would literally pass out right by the US table! I am so excited for you though! I think twins would be lovely and I have heard they're such a joy bc they have each other to keep entertained and snuggle with. I hope you post numerous pics of them when they arrive!

[RaisingGentlemen3]

So I took an equate early result test and an opk this afternoon after a 4 hr hold. The preg test is positive but so faint I think most would consider it negative. You really have to look for it. The opk is neg too which I am so glad! I really want my o to wait 11 days or more as my dh started fr 2 days ago. He found a study that fr doesn't really lower sperm count much til at least 14 days. So I am hoping for more than 14 but hopefully at least 14. We also found a study that releasing 2x within 2 hrs (ish) doesn't lower it much either. It has to be 3 or 4 times with 2 hrs in between before sperm count is considerably lowered. That's 4x in 8 hrs! Yikes! So we decided on fr until I ovulate, however long that may be. So I am hoping for Halloween or later (giving 15+days of fr). Plus the costumes might be fun 😉

[RaisingGentlemen3]

Idk why but it won't upload the pic

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, all I can tell you is that based on my experience on the site for going on 9 years now, regardless of what a study says, FR longer than 7-10 days has not worked out for people and I think you're really going to regret going that route. People do not get pregnant even with just 7 days, and what's more, it's often very, very difficult for men to stick with. They start missing days or ending up unable to perform and considering we don't even see this working for people I really can't recommend doing that. We actually tried doing the compressed FR in the past and 90% couldn't stick with it or perform for the attempt. We don't even have ANY evidence that lower sperm count sways at all anyway, it's just a theory. So I'm worried you guys are really cutting your chances of conception for things that don't work anyway.

But do please keep me posted how it's goind for you and let me know how I can help!

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic I should have also mentioned that I have some underlying autoimmune issues so maybe it’s possible that the anti inflammatory aspect of aspirin has helped me - who knows. I read an article months ago about a study where it seemed to help women with repeated miscarriages who had underlying inflammation. My Obgyn felt strongly about it because he said over his long career he’s seen women with repeated miscarriages use it with success even if he doesn’t understand fully why it helps. My fertility specialist doesn’t believe in it though. But again after 3 unexplained miscarriages I just no longer felt comfortable ignoring his advice. But - it’s clearly one of those very controversial things still that even doctors can’t agree on!


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Yes, thank you so much I didn't feel comfy sharing that info with the rest of the class.

That was in no way meant to be argumentative at all, I SO APPRECIATE your experiences and the time you take to help everyone. It's just that sometimes people hear one person say it worked for them and that outweighs the other stuff so I felt the need to go into all that...in no way meant to be a quibble at all and agan thank you so very much for your help and information. Really appreciate it!

[RaisingGentlemen3]

Yea I saw the stats aren't impressive for fr or abstain. I wonder if most don't get pregnant from 7+ day fr is the lowered count plus other swaying like sylk or acijel? It's always so hard to know what to do!

[RaisingGentlemen3]

Would you suggest the Cfr then? I just want to do what's best! I texted my dh and he said he can already tell he won't be able to perform and it's only day4. 😣 I tried figuring out what compressed fr is and it seems like hurry up fr? Please clarify, idk why it's so confusing!

[RaisingGentlemen3]

I found this in a Google search, is this still valid? Screenshot_20181019-133505.jpg

[atomic sagebrush]

Yea I saw the stats aren't impressive for fr or abstain. I wonder if most don't get pregnant from 7+ day fr is the lowered count plus other swaying like sylk or acijel? It's always so hard to know what to do!

During the early days of the site we had people playing around doing lots of different things. Some people did JUST FR or abstain without the jellies (the jellies are pretty unpopular as they can skeeve some people out) so I feel we have a very good body of data indicating that both abstain and FR are really dramatically cutting odds of conception all on their own without any assistance from other things.

[atomic sagebrush]

Would you suggest the Cfr then? I just want to do what's best! I texted my dh and he said he can already tell he won't be able to perform and it's only day4. �� I tried figuring out what compressed fr is and it seems like hurry up fr? Please clarify, idk why it's so confusing!

Yep that's a huge reason why the FR has totally fallen out of favor. 80% of guys can't do it. And it becomes a huge bone of contention (er, so to speak LOL) which only adds stress and conflict to the entire thing.

If I had my way I'd have frequency vanish without a trace into an unmarked grave in a faraway land where it would never be discovered. So I would suggest everyone do regular release every 2-4 days with one attempt or let him "do what he does" with one attempt. But most people do still want to try it and since I'm not the font of all earthly knowledge (YET, mwahaha) I keep it in the mix for those who want it.

Hurry up FR is having him release once, dump it, then DTD again as quickly as he can using only the second batch for insemination. Within 1 hour is best, 3 is acceptible, 6 is the outer limit (but you should still try even if it gets beyond that, it will still count for one attempt)

Compressed FR is having him do 2-3 releases a day for 2-3 days before having the one attempt. The one attempt should be the second release of the day, preferably, but can be 12 or more hours later.