UK SMOG Wannabes APRIL

[auroara78]

I've watched the show enough to see that she has a lot of support from the older kids. It seems the older kids really help raise the younger kids. While I think her amount of children is astounding and nuts, I find the show very fascinating sometimes in regard to gender makeup...i.e the fact they had several boys in a row, and lately, with her maturing age, all the babies have been girls. I think it's a very interesting study of gender ratio actually, and my sister actaully believed this too...she had 1 girl, 4 boys, and she believed if she had kept going she'd have girls again, and eventually the ratio would even out to close or at 50 percent.

But of course most people can't duggar it out these days obviously. My mom is one of nine, and my grandma had 5 boys and 4 girls, and it went BGBGBGBGB. My Dad is one of twelve, and I can't remember his family very well because we are not as close and they live in a different state, but I do remember they had a pretty even mix of gender, with I think it being slightly more girls to boys, though my Dad had at least 4 brothers.

So I def. believe if we all lived in the olden ages on farms and had tons of kids to help us with the farms we'd see a mix of at least some girls to boys, even if there were more boys in that family makeup.

[charlieispy]

Maybe
Interesting info hun - I must fall into that category too - I have 2 kids with bum dimples, one with a Y bum crease, indy has tongue tie, Nico was 1 in 67 risk and Beck had enlarged ventricles in his brain (he has the Y bum crease) and this is also a marker. Crazy when i think about it all!!

[charlieispy]

Petal - DH was meant to be getting the snip when baby arrived - but even he is now saying he doesnt want to x we cant afford another baby let alone PGD but I too have emailled and sent off for pricing - I just cant give up my dream but then I always wanted 4 kids and none after I was 30 - just because i had ds1 at 22 and wanted to do the things i planned to do before we got our miracle surprise when they were older .........

[maybebabythree]

Petal I am looking at going for a crazy mortage at the moment but I can't shift to wish to do IVF. Its more than money at stake though. I bet my life its very draining in every single aspect.

Charlie DS had a larger ventricle as well. I asked about it but none of my doctors understood the US report! Just said if it was a worry they would have mentioned it to me after the scan. I have yet to read all of the info I have found but if it seems to be useful I will post a link 9if that allowed on here?). I think its interesting as it seems this is spina bifida but so far only my midwife has said I need to consider this in future pgs and my sons need to know when they have kids. The doctors don't explain anything, just said its all fine and it should not impact their lifes, which is the best news. However if something is making me produce kids with spina bifida then I think i need to know that. Next time we might not be so lucky. If the dimple was higher up then god knows things might have been very different. The dimple is so deep. I really think if it was a inch or two higher he would be in big trouble. Both times this has not been seen on the ultra sound at 20 weeks. I think they only look higher up on the spine? Its all very interesting.

With regards to the duggers, I already feel like DS1 is going to have to help out for us to cope and I only have three kids. I think its good for him in a way, makes him more caring as he helps with DS2 (Very much his choice right now). My friend at school had 15 siblings (religous reasons). Her and her elder sister both helped raised the younger ones. When the eldest was 16 she got pg basically to escape her life of being a carer. So I think getting the kids to help out in a large family is a good idea but only to certain point. My friends mum was a emotional mess and I think she relied far to heavly on her older girls to do everything for her.

[Petal]

Ah little Dave, bless him. Oh i didnt realise spinda bifida was genetic! Maybe your dh carries a mild gene for it and no one ever knew!
Thats interesting about your doctor having 4 boys then 4 girls! i think most people would stop after 4 in a row so many dont get to find these things out!! blimey, id never cope with 8 kids lol, trying to get 3 out of the door in the mornings without losing my rag is a challenge in itself!!

[charlieispy]

Maybe - so is your MW saying the boys have mild spina bifida?? Although it was highlighted on ours especially Beck as he the enlarged ventricles then the Y bum we were told they didnt have it as they had no physical problems - but worrying if its genetic x

God ds3 has turned into a monster i cant cope with him sod having 19 of them ........

[atomic sagebrush]

If you just have the dimple, then you're not considered as having 'spina bifida' in the true sense of the word. Some kids with the dimple don't have a tailbone and the nerves at the very end of the spine can be exposed, and that can cause some very mild problems with constipation and not being able to control urine as easily as other children.

DS 3 has a deep dimple as well and he does have the constipation issue and also very urgent when he has to wee. None of my other boys have it.

[maybebabythree]

From what I am reading you can have a genetic condition which stops you absorbing certain nutrients which in turn causes spina bifida. That doesn't explain dhs symptoms as I would carry that gene? Also it suggests it could run in siblings as the mums vitamins store do not recover between pgs but I had a four year gap between all my boys so that doesn't seem right either. I will keep reading and see what else I can find.

Sunset I have dyslexia so please excuse all my spelling and grammer. I normally spell check everything I write, but that's a effort on a forum.

[deaks66]

Hi ladies, trying desperately to keep up with messages but also deal with gd feelings, two hyper boys (its ds2's b'day) and letting family know we got ds1's first choice school place...yay!.... my emotions are all over the place! Think dh might be up for pgd as he said today we just have to do one baby at a time. That means he would consider a fourth and i know he would rather do pgd than take the risk naturally. Just wandering where you guys think is the best place to go? need to do research but its helping me get through low times at the moment. Actually dealing ok with idea of ds3 but just not thought of NEVER having a daughter.

[auroara78]

Deaks that is where I think I'm going to be in two days if I hear boy, will love a ds3, but be upset about maybe having a life without raising a daughter.