New 2018 Clomid AND Femara support threads!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hey! I’m new to this site! I tried to start a new thread but I haven’t figured out how to yet. I’m going to start TTC next summer but I wanted to get my research done early. I have two kids dd (5) and ds (2) and we both really want another girl. I was thinking about taking unprescribed clomid. I have no ovulation issues that I know of. I have the IUD in currently and will be taking it out next summer. I would LOVE twins!!!! I know clomid increases the odds to 8% but I was wondering if there was anything I could do to raise that a little bit. Any advice would be great! I have read several of the forums and respect y’alls opinions greatly.

Thanks in Advance!

Hi and welcome! To start a new thread, you have to actually click open one of the forums (this is the part everyone misses!) So go back to the main page, find whatever forum you're interested in, and then click that. at that point you'll see the "start new thread" option.

For reasons we don't understand, we are getting more twins with Clomid + pink sway anyway. We do not know if it's something about us (some of us have a LOT of kids and a lot of boys, LOL) or something about the pink sway diet that may up odds of twinning but even without Clomid we've had more than our fair share of twins.

I would have you use full fat dairy and take 1200-1600 mcg folic acid or folate in addition to the Clomid. But seriously - don't take more than 50 mg Clomid, even if you're tempted to. You may end up with a lot more than you bargained for!

[mcca4343]

Thank you so much!!! I really appreciate it!! No problem on the high fat diet! I’m sorry what do I take that’s 1200-1600 mcg with the clomid?

[atomic sagebrush]

oh whoops, sorry about that! Folic acid or folate (folate is best but tends to be more expensive)

[missiz]

just wanting to ask, I have taken 4 of my 5 clomid tablets, my last one is due tonight. But as far as normal symptoms go, is it common to have nausea, diarrhea like pain and soft bowel motions? sorry about TMI, but feeling pretty ordinary and just wondering if thats all within the normal range of taking clomid. I dont have diarrhea, just not my normal BM with some pain like when you need to do a diarrhea.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, Clomid causes all sorts of fun stuff while you're taking it. It should go away after you're done taking the pills but someone was mentioning they noticed a resurgence around ovulation as well.

[emshe]

Hi atomic! Checking in after getting AF & obviously again [emoji24] a BFN (which I will confirm) fir the 5th cycle, 4th on clomid with a break in the middle month.

I am nervous about ttc this cycle, I’ve been lazy in this tww. I haven’t exercised for 10 days and I had dropped down to 2 days on one day off for last cycle as my weight is low. Is that huge to a girl sway?

I’d also gone to decaf coffee as I really thought I was pregnant. Will start hitting the real stuff again. & alcohol I’ll add again too. Or should I drop these. Hubbys drinking a lot atm he’s really stressed out at work.

I have been really strict with getting close to 60g of fat. Having 125g chicken as part of my protein which probably reaches around 55g daily. I have natural full fat yoghurt daily, salmon once a week, adding in about 5g coconut oil ( is this or olive oil better?), eat Avocadoes a few times, nuts & nut butters etc. is it possible I eat too many veges. Mainly free stuff but I also eat potato, pumpkin, sweet potato, carrot daily (i attached a pick of main lunch soup measures). I do eat ALOT.
Also dropped to 1/2 metformin at each meal.

We did clomid 50mg days 3-7
e4d plus 1 at positive opk (CD 14) scheduled attempt which fell day 30 hours after positive opk on CD15 may have fallen just after my egg popped going on the pressure pain & relief. Trust hubby to be late home that night..
On fertility diet since November 17
Miscarried HT FET girl November 17 after previous bfn fresh HT transfer
Miscarried aug 2015
Wondering if my body can’t carry a pregnancy anymore!?


July was meant that be our last month ttc so I was really bummed to start bleeding. I can squeeze another ovulation into the month I think!!! [emoji6] any tips?

Is the no exercise, no alcohol & no coffee for 10 days huge for my girl sway? I feel like the few things that went by the by in the 2ww are huge influences on girl sway & the 250g ice cream serve I had one night. Whoops.

Please help! Shine some of that magic atomic wisdom on me if you can, THANK YOU

[onebigwish]

How many cycles does clomid stays in the body’s system? This cycle i didn’t take clomid but i ovulated in the night from cd12 on my own and right after ovulation i have this clomid symptoms again headache and very emotional everything makes me wanna cry...which make me think i didn’t conceive again

[atomic sagebrush]

How many cycles does clomid stays in the body’s system? This cycle i didn’t take clomid but i ovulated in the night from cd12 on my own and right after ovulation i have this clomid symptoms again headache and very emotional everything makes me wanna cry...which make me think i didn’t conceive again

At least a month after and possibly 2 for some people.

Most people would be thinking they were pregnant based on those symptoms! You aren't out yet!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hey Emshe!

Well, do please check with a pregnancy test because it isn't always obvious that you'll get AF and a BFN! Some of us, like purple, and myself, had "periods" and were pregnant all along so it is not always a done deal that AF shows and you're not preggo.

Just pick it up with the 2 days on, 1 day off exercise when you're ready. No worries. I want you to stay at the lower level of exercise because we don't want any more weight loss (and may need to gain a lb or two)

RE the coffee and alcohol - up to you. If you're off them, it may just be easiest to stay off them. I doubt that's why you haven't conceived yet but it's something to change up.

No, you can't be eating too many veggies! The only concern I'd have about that is if you were eating so many vegetables that you didn't have room for your other foods.

My main concern here (and this may be a moot point if you're really planning to stop trying) is NOT that you're wrecking your sway doing too little exercise, eating too much, etc. My concern here is that you aren't able to get pregnant because you've cut back TOO far. Restrictive diet, exercise, Metformin on top of it, low weight - your body just doesn't feel "comfortable" enough to allow itself to conceive. My point is not that you necessarily need to eat more, gain wweight, etc (although I think a small weight gain will help) but that you shouldn't beat yourself up about things like some ice cream here and there, it would only have helped.)

I have never seen one iota of evidence that anyone 'can't carry babies any more'. That is not really a thing. Now, certainly egg quality can diminish and make it hard to conceive, but when we are seeing people do IVF rounds and get pregnant (using donor eggs) into their 50's and even 60's there is no evidence that anyone's body just can't carry babies, if that makes sense. Whatever is happening, it's happening with sperm meeting egg or the quality of the egg and the sperm itself or at implantation and those things we have at least some control over.

Is there any chance you guys will carry on longer?

Let's do coconut oil over olive oil since coconut is saturated and may help fertility.

[emshe]

Hey Emshe!

Well, do please check with a pregnancy test because it isn't always obvious that you'll get AF and a BFN! Some of us, like purple, and myself, had "periods" and were pregnant all along so it is not always a done deal that AF shows and you're not preggo.

Just pick it up with the 2 days on, 1 day off exercise when you're ready. No worries. I want you to stay at the lower level of exercise because we don't want any more weight loss (and may need to gain a lb or two)

RE the coffee and alcohol - up to you. If you're off them, it may just be easiest to stay off them. I doubt that's why you haven't conceived yet but it's something to change up.

No, you can't be eating too many veggies! The only concern I'd have about that is if you were eating so many vegetables that you didn't have room for your other foods.

My main concern here (and this may be a moot point if you're really planning to stop trying) is NOT that you're wrecking your sway doing too little exercise, eating too much, etc. My concern here is that you aren't able to get pregnant because you've cut back TOO far. Restrictive diet, exercise, Metformin on top of it, low weight - your body just doesn't feel "comfortable" enough to allow itself to conceive. My point is not that you necessarily need to eat more, gain wweight, etc (although I think a small weight gain will help) but that you shouldn't beat yourself up about things like some ice cream here and there, it would only have helped.)

I have never seen one iota of evidence that anyone 'can't carry babies any more'. That is not really a thing. Now, certainly egg quality can diminish and make it hard to conceive, but when we are seeing people do IVF rounds and get pregnant (using donor eggs) into their 50's and even 60's there is no evidence that anyone's body just can't carry babies, if that makes sense. Whatever is happening, it's happening with sperm meeting egg or the quality of the egg and the sperm itself or at implantation and those things we have at least some control over.

Is there any chance you guys will carry on longer?

Let's do coconut oil over olive oil since coconut is saturated and may help fertility.

Thanks atomic. I have a test ready for fmu this morning, CD 2. Tomorrow will be clomid start day.

We may be able to continue. Hubby did say something recently that made me go oh he’s forgotten we promised we would stop after July. It’s the restrictiveness of my diet, eating schedule and planning I think that gets him down.
Planning to take August off ttc as a break from clomid. Sticking to diet & exercise.

To be honest though I am getting to the i want to move on point after spending the last 2 1/2 years on the journey through HT & swaying. So getting pregnant this cycle would be amazing, highly doubt it though [emoji853]HT numbers did suggest something going on with sperm meets egg I felt as numbers dropped off dramatically from 15 mature to 4 fertilised. But likely my egg quality too. Hubbys sperm DNA fragmentation test etc were all good.

I have ubiquinol on hand, should I take that? Or is it boy friendly?

Should I be replacing more of my canola type fats? I do nuts, tahini or avocado most days as well as canola and 5g coconut oil
Drop alcohol definitely, stick to decaf & possibly one real one every other day.
Slow down a bit on exercise
Have a few more cheats here and there

I’ve put up a pic in next post of my days tracking which is pretty similar most days to see what you think!

Thank you atomic you’re the best