August 2WW

[pinkhelp]

Ladies, when you spot before AF do you count the first day of AF as CD1 or the first day of full on AF?

[Nahri]

My Ovuview app counts it as day one and so far it hasn't been wrong on predicting the next start date.

[Christi]

Fertility Friend doesn't consider it CD1 until the period is at least "light" flow, so spotting wouldn't count as CD1. Personally, I think that unless your spotting pretty quickly turns into a heavier flow, it's not really your period. Perhaps if you have a really light period anyway, you might have a different standard. I tend to have pretty heavy periods, so "spotting" is DEFINITELY NOT a period day for me. I think you would really have to make a comparison between what "spotting" is for you compared to your regular period. For me, there is no mistaking the difference between spotting and the first day of AF. But if you were distinguishing between spotting and light flow, I could see how that might be confusing to decide which day really counts as AF.

[pinkhelp]

thanks, yes my spotting is only really just pink when I wipe only, but sometimes a little makes it to my underwear. First day of AF and it's bright red and need a tampon so I wont count it then. Not sure why I would spot for 4 days before AF like this though

[Christi]

pinkhelp--I did the same thing last month. It was SOOOOOOOOOOOOO annoying. I was like, oh, maybe this is implantation bleeding, and was cautiously optimistic (because I don't usually have any spotting, AF just starts), but alas, BFN. Are you by chance taking Vitex or Saw Palmetto? I was wondering if that may be affecting the way my period starts by causing spotting before AF rears her ugly head in her full obnoxious glory.

As for me, I started spotting at 7dpo, but it only lasted a few hours, so I am cautiously optimistic about this month. I tested this morning at 10dpo, but got a BFN with an early response test. But my girlfriend reminded me that it is still early to test and asked when I got a positive with DS1 and when I checked my phone, I found a picture of the pregnancy test I took and it didn't turn positive until like 18 or 19 dpo, so as long as AF stays away, I'm cautiously optimistic. When my girlfriend asked me, I forgot that I had gone to see my OB for my annual with DS1 and they told me the test was negative at the appointment, even though I was 14dpo. At the end of the appointment, after the test sat for 30 minutes, they said they saw a very faint positive (though I couldn't really see it). So maybe I am just one of those women who it takes forever to turn positive for..... fingers crossed for everyone!

[pinkhelp]

Hey Christi! I went off vitex this month after being on it from AF-O for 4 months. Last month I had a really early chemical. So I'm not sure if it's the chemical that made me ovulated early cd 14, or if it was the going off vitex. I usually o on cd 18-19. I'm still holding on to threads of hope for a bfp. We shall see. I've had 2 pregnancies with no spotting/nothing at all and one where I spotted for 7 day very lightly and didnt get a bfp until 16 dpo and it was a real squinter. Do you have any symptoms?

[Christi]

It's hard to say. I've got an obnoxious summer cold, so my temps are staying pretty high post-o (which is consistent with my previous pregnancy), and I've had a little nausea (also consistent with before), but I'm sick, so having an elevated temp and nausea aren't really helpful clues in this particular instance. So who knows....

The most promising sign so far has definitely been the few hours of spotting on 7dpo.....

But, my gut is increasingly feeling like this is the month for us. So much so, that I decided to start my prenatal vitamins (we are taking the next month off, so if it is a bfn, I can always stop them again when af shows up). Plus, I'm sick, so maybe a few extra vitamins will help me get better sooner.

[Mars]

I'm still here, 10dpo today I think but I am going to wait until Tuesday to test. Yesterday I had lots of aches and cramps and I felt really light headed, I'm also a bit constipated (sorry TMI!) so I'm not sure. Time will tell I guess. In the mean time I'm enjoying drinking alcohol and keeping busy.

[pinkhelp]

WOW, so I have some news.
Yesterday, 13 dpo, I had this hot feeling in my pelvis area all day, you know like when your arm is in the sun while driving and feels really hot, ya it felt like the sun was shining on my pubic bone ALL DAY and some lower back pains that were there, but not really that painful. From time to time it would also feel like this on my butt cheeks and my lower back. Well I went to bed and it kept feeling like this, only a bit more intense and then all of a sudden I got the most intense "cramps" on my pubic bone I have ever felt since right before giving birth and they lasted about 40 seconds and then the hot feeling started to let up. Still bfn this am, just checked, but it hasn't been 10 mins yet since i looked. I just know I am now. I had the back thing and the hot thing with my 3rd but not this intense. I think if I really implanted fully this late, no wonder it hurt. Isn't the blastocyst? about a 1/4 inch my now? The baby must have started to implant on Monday (cd 10) causing the spotting and it's continued all week. I'll expect more from all the cramping. We shall see. I'm also worried that such a late implant is not so good, and also worried it means boy, but all 3 of my boys, I had these symptoms about 6-7 dpo, not 13!!!

Sorry for the LONG post! This month I had an attempt at 3.5 day cut off and an o+12 (exactly 12 hrs after I felt the mega cramps from O that lasted about 20 seconds) Hoping this is going to work out for me! Also, my strategy this whole time TTC has been to make it really hard to get pg. So my first attempt, dh released on my and i just wiped a bit of semen on my vj so maybe 1/4 of load and then second attempt was a finger tip of semen at the opening. Will keep you updated! I guess I might get a really late bfp this time?

[pinkhelp]

still bfn this am but I never got a bfp until 14-15 dpo with my others and that was with implantation cramps etc MUCH earlier than this....so I guess I may not get one for another week or so