hunger or low blood sugar?

[atomic sagebrush]

okay please dont think im attacking you or challenging you, just overly curious here. so with the french gender and IG diets most of those theories are backed by studies done by animals (cows) and some humans. are you saying that those studies just FOCUSED on those particular minerals (sodium/pot/calc/magn)? and didnt really look at the whole picture (as many studies DO forget to look at whole picture)?

and with your high everything diet (havent looked at it but know the concept),did you just come up with that via your own personal research bc as you said you were a part of IG at one point (so then were you always disagreeing with the IG ways from the get-go?)? or is it from your personal experience (incl ppl you know). or are there any facts/research studies that im missing (besides TW).

ihave to say, i DO agree with you. but to go from believing in IG, and then having to abort THAT mission and just start a new type of thinking/dieting (high everything), it makes me think well who is right? i know YOU can argue FOR the high everything but is there anyone on here who can argue FOR the IG diet (100% no sharing diets with other theories). i mean i guess i can go on there and see but i dont have time for monkies! ;-) and i have to say i love that i can ask you these questions and you not get offended (i hope!) bc i SO AM NOT trying to offend you! just curious and trying to understand it all!

obviously i dont believe in the 'rice krispies' mentallity as they PROBABLY didnt have them back in 1675. but wondering really, CAN diet really affect gender or is this all in our heads?? all just by chance? (that ppl do these diets and end up with their DG).

No, not at all!

Ok, the researchers behind the FGD looked at some studies from the 1930's that were originally done in animals that are so far removed from human beings as to be utterly worthless (marine worms and some frogs) and extrapolated this theory from there. Mineral content in their environment really DOES affect some of these creatures. Unfortunately, worms and frogs have entirely different reproductive tracts and reproductive methods than mammals do. Most of the animals they studied don't even have boys and girls the way we think of them...they can actually change their sex from male to female!!! There is no logical comparison between them.

The issue with the research done by the FGD people is that they already had their minds made up from the beginning and they started out trying to prove that cal/mag and sod/pot are what matters and that's all they were looking at. They didn't compare calories, protein, fat, other nutrients, or anything else. They ONLY looked at minerals. I believe it is 100% coincidence - a diet that cuts out red meat and limits fruits and veg is going to sway pink but not necessarily because of anything having to do with calcium. In an effort to make these mineral diets they inadvertently designed diets that do sway to a certain extent but it's not necessarily minerals that are doing the swaying.

Yes, I just came up with the high-everything/low-everything diet after researching this stuff for a few years. It's both research and my own experience and that of others. When I first started looking into swaying, it bothered me because I have always eaten tons of dairy and my mom eats none and I have boys and she has mostly girls. Then I saw several people on IG who didn't want to sway very hard and just took cal-mag supps and ate a normal diet and they ALL had opposites and then several others who were drinking milk by the gallon and tahini by the ton had opposites too while the ones who were eating really restrictive diets were the ones whose sways worked.

Then the Oxford study came out and it found that moms who had boys actually ate MORE calcium than moms who didn't (in addition to protein, calories, and other nutrients. Once I started to look into it and found that a) 75% of all adults can't even digest dairy products and b) the countries that eat the most dairy have more boys and countries where people are almost all lactose intolerant and eat little to no dairy have more girls, I realized I did not really believe in the calcium theory, but then I got scared when it came time to sway and I went ahead and took great big doses of calcium, magnesium, Vit. D, and cut way back on potassium and to a lesser extent sodium, and I STILL had another boy. If minerals are what is doing the swaying it sure isn't anything any of us should rely on because it's pretty dang inconsistent.

Anyway, there is a huge body of evidence having to do with the Trivers Willard hypothesis dating back 40 years and I know I should put together a list of links for people but I haven't gotten to it yet. Declining/improving maternal condition, lower/higher nutrient diet, blood glucose, a carb-based diet as opposed to a high-fat diet, vegetarians having more girls, and testosterone/estrogen levels all have much much firmer data to back them up, from much more reputable sources, and they agree with the overall pattern of what I personally had observed and could see in the world. Researchers have even witnessed in the lab that XX and XY suck up different levels of glucose - no one has EVER witnessed eggs and sperm being electrically attracted to each other by calcium or sodium ions.

All I did in designing the diet is just to do research on ways to lower testosterone, lower estrogen, keep blood sugar low, and put that into a diet. People could easily choose to follow the mineral recommendations in addition to my recommendations but people found it to be too restrictive.

I understand that not everyone may want to go this route and that's fine, but I just can't support what I don't think is true.

[atomic sagebrush]

I just wanted to comment if I may. Before launching the site, I spent time going through all the available research and there is some compelling info out there about diet and the influence on gender. I felt even better about it when I got a copy of the FG diet and read about their process too(and it did involve animals as well as humans!).

So, I think the general principles that we all promote with the ratios of sodium/potassium to calcium/magnesium are valid assumptions- but that is all they are- assumptions. I think you have to look at yourself, your life when you conceived what you have and see if it matches up with what we say. If it does, I don't see what you have to lose by trying the approach!

Good luck!

I do want to take the opportunity to thank NBP for giving me the opportunity to share my diet here even though we don't always agree!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

if you guys are still in contact with the IG ppl, have you shared your newfound knowledge and if so, are THEY then (IG) changing their methods as well?

Actually Tamara and I are very good friends and while we occasionally send each other studies, I think we kind of have an unspoken pact not to get into that. They have their way of swaying and I have what I think is best and I couldn't make them co-exist with each other (which is why I got burned out on being a mod there so quick.)

They did encorporate a lot of my stuff into their sway already - skipping breakfast, exercise, skim dairy, weight loss, and just the general importance of diet all comes from me originally.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hey, I wrote a total essay about this issue and it is found here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...ucting-the-FGD

[gizmo77]

Hey, I wrote a total essay about this issue and it is found here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...ucting-the-FGD

di di read right? are yous waying now for a girl?? :-)

[gizmo77]

thanks for responding! clears some things up

[zanacal]

I thought the signature just meant I want a baby - and that the pink colour was coincidence!

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, I just thought the baby was cute! I would be thrilled with a girl or a boy although I do think a boy would "fit in" better. I hadn't realized the baby was so pink!!!

[zanacal]

Lol, pink enough for me to roll my cursor over it to check