For people that want to record what they are eating (to help be strict!)

[tweedledeedum]

You girls are all doing so well! And DM it sounds like you are off to a great start! It really does become so much easier as time passes.

Midday: 2 waffles, little butter, glass skim milk
Meal 2: 1/2 cup of penne with cheese sauce, glass skim milk
Snack: handful of jalapeno cheddar potato chips

I am now in the 2ww (2 high temps so far). I had chips for the first time yesterday. I will be back on the diet full force this week.

[twinkle]

out of the blue- do you have skittles there they are like them but they are bigger and square i LOVE the pink ones they taste like candy floss yummy.
I find the evening a struggle to get thro i did try to eat nothing till the evening and eat all my allowance then but it was too hard. I do find the peppermint tea and the diet caffeine free coke fills a whole as long as you are not starving, i try and drink as soon as i feel a little hungry, Im praying for a BFP very soon so i can eat some nice junk food.

[twinkle]

I am ttc this month ive done the diet for 6 weeks now, i dont think i will be luck enough for it to work 1st month but its worth a shot good luck for your sway as well

[zanacal]

Hi everyone

I love that this thread is so busy - but I have some little people to get to bed and I don't have time to respond to everybody! Regarding supplements, I'm not taking calcium and magnesium (I believe calcium may raise testosterone and the 'you are what you eat' study found more calcium = more boys!). I just take 800mg folic acid, saw palmetto and vitex and a baby aspirin every other day. I also take Chitosan before meals. I find the key to not getting hungry and snacking in the afternoon and evening is diet coke - I drink tonnes of it now! I found the protein limit really difficult to begin with but I probably get between 30g and 40g most days now without too much effort. I am exhausted today though, this diet certainly isn't very energising! Today I had:

Breakfast/mid-morning: Coffee
Lunch: 2 slices ww bread, slice low fat soft cheese, packet cheese & onion hoola hoops!
Snack: iced bun and a cup of tea at a friend's house!
Dinner: 2 mini pitta breads, 1/4 tub reduced fat sour cream (I don't even like this stuff usually but I so fancied it today!), a few pieces of cucumber and red pepper for dipping and some lettuce and a couple of cherry tomatoes with balsamic and a tiny bit of feta cheese sprinkled on top. Also a jam tart and some strawberries, meringue nest and squirty cream.

DM - you weigh almost exactly the same as I did when I started this diet! Weigh in day tomorrow for me

[twinkle]

Zanacal im with you with the diet coke it works for me! i could not stick to the diet if it wasnt for the diet caffine free coke pepermint tea and the odd cup of caffine free coffee

[zanacal]

I'm not even bothering with caffeine free any more as I discovered no caffeine was because it hinders absorption of calcium and I'm not including that in my sway Lots of diet coke means I spend most of the evening walking to and from the toilet though!!

[DoulaMama]

Hi dm, firstly, you're doing really well!!!! Some of us are not taking cal and mag (I'm not) as I'm going for low everything but quite a few are as it is a big part of a traditional sway, I can't remember the amount but I'm sure others will chime in. There was another thread about fat in which atomic basically said keep it low, that if you had reduced oil and butter and were eating the low everything diet then your fat should be fine. Protein should be 40, 50max. Those ttc girls need a bit more folic acid than in a normal pregnancy supp as we're not getting it in our diet, I'm taking 800. I think if you decide to take cal/mag you might as well get dh to as well.

Thank you Swish! I think after looking into it a bit more, I'm going to drop the cal/mag. I have a really hard time remembering to take the supps so far so adding to it will only make it worse... My DH has to take Mag for his muscles/back and for sleep....do you think this will affect our sway? He just told me that his Chiro told him to not take any Cal because he thinks that's what has been making his muscles tight.

Omg, twinkle, you're living on nothing!!! How long have you been on the diet?

I agree! Holy Dina!

DM - sounds like you did a great job! I find the protein to be the hardest to limit. I ate chicken and eggs for the first 3 weeks or so of the diet, then decided to drop them and fully join the 'low everything' diet. You've got the daily limits right. I drove myself crazy watching fat for a week or so, then Atomic said it would be almost impossible to eat too much fat if you're strictly following the diet, so I stopped worrying about it. As for calories, I'm a bad person to ask since I'm regularly too low. My calories average about 1200 a night, but I think it would be healthier for me to be closer to 1500. Hopefully atomic will chime in and suggest a limit for your situation.

I'm taking Cal/Mag (regular daily dose), Folic twice a day, Vitex (2 x 400mg per day), Saw Palmetto (1 x 160mg per day) and Baby Aspirin. I was taking Baby Aspirin every day, but I might start taking it every other day instead. DH isn't taking anything since he doesn't believe in swaying and it was hard enough to get him to agree to baby #4!

I hope this helps!

Thanks Mocha! It does! I can't take the SP because of the nursing....but I'm wondering if baby aspirin would be a good idea every other day....maybe I'll start it 4 weeks out from my attempt....hmmmm. I think after a bit more research and looking at how much I want to lose, I'll stick with 1300 cals a day. I'd like to lose 2 lbs per week if I can. I know it's alot but I've done it before about 5 years ago...hopefully my body won't fail me now! HAHAHA!

Doula – WTG, Doula!!! That baby food is not a bad idea! There’s actually a diet that’s going around where people eat only baby food since the portions are so small and there aren’t many additives/sodium in there. I think I heard Lady Gaga (among others) was doing that, lol. Seriously, I also got to the point yesterday where I wanted to gnaw off my arms too. It was okay until 7pm hit and I was already done w/dinner. Loud, audible SIGH.....



For you, 1200 – 1300 cals is probably right on for now.

Fat – like the others said, just cut out the obvious sources and if you’re doing the diet right, it just falls into place! There…that should take a little bit of stress away! Girl swaying is a NO STRESS ZONE (or so I try to make it, lol).

Protein – 40 – 50 (I know…I love me some protein!!! Last summer when I lost my weigh, it was my BFF since it kept me nice and full…now fiber is my friend and seems to fill me up).

Sodium – 700 – 1000

I quit taking my Cal/Mags since I’m not convinced Cal really sways and could maybe backfire if you’re not cutting cals (which we all are). I just panicked and quit taking it for now but that’s just me. Besides Folic (me – 1200 mcg), I take Acidophilus (just to help things inside) and non-fish DHA (which probably sways boy but I’m not budging on that one…again, that’s just me). I take Vitex, drink Pep T and Raspberry Leaf T (but this could sway boy as well…)

Ready for day 2??? It's 09:45 here and still no brekkie. I picked a sesame seed off of my son's toast and ate it but other than that, just coffee. …..

Thank you for all the info! I agree...1300cals sounds right. I'm going to include probiotics in my diet as well I think. I have a big jar in my fridge just sitting there and it'll most likely help my guts if my body starts having troubles with this diet. I'm going to look at more fibre too.... If it helps fill me up....I need it! I had to laugh at the "babyfood" diet you mentioned above! I tell ya....it was sweet and yummy and I couldn't overindulge! I'm seriously going to include them in my diet! LOL Although I'll stay away from the mushy peas....

I think the problem with both afternoon and evening is I spend a lot of time just sitting and watching the kids play (and snack).

Ugh! Tell me about it! I just had my lunch(salad and the rest of the tin of tuna from yesterday) and then served up some Annies Mac and cheese for the kids...well I was still hungry! And looking at them eat their lunch almost sent me over the edge! I can do this...I can do this!

Wow - I'm amazed that you can eat supper at 4 and still keep yourself from snacking all night! We eat at 5:30 or so, and by 8 I'm ready for a snack!

Me too! I eat dinner at 6pm and stay up some nights til about midnight and it is seriously hard not to snack! I have to have a tea otherwise it's game over.

You girls are all doing so well! And DM it sounds like you are off to a great start! It really does become so much easier as time passes.

Thank-you Tweedle! I'm hoping so!

Hi everyone

I love that this thread is so busy - but I have some little people to get to bed and I don't have time to respond to everybody! Regarding supplements, I'm not taking calcium and magnesium (I believe calcium may raise testosterone and the 'you are what you eat' study found more calcium = more boys!). I just take 800mg folic acid, saw palmetto and vitex and a baby aspirin every other day. I also take Chitosan before meals. I find the key to not getting hungry and snacking in the afternoon and evening is diet coke - I drink tonnes of it now! I found the protein limit really difficult to begin with but I probably get between 30g and 40g most days now without too much effort. I am exhausted today though, this diet certainly isn't very energising!
DM - you weigh almost exactly the same as I did when I started this diet! Weigh in day tomorrow for me

SOLD...no more Cal/Mag for me.... And about the Chitosan...do you know off hand if it's breastfeeding friendly??
Do you weigh yourself once a week? I'm actually a daily weigher when I diet but I'm thinking that it might be better to start doing it weekly instead. How long have you been on the diet for and how much have you lost? I'm actually quite excited about shedding some pounds and really....it's for more than just me...it's hopefully for a little PINK bundle!!!!

I'm not even bothering with caffeine free any more as I discovered no caffeine was because it hinders absorption of calcium and I'm not including that in my sway Lots of diet coke means I spend most of the evening walking to and from the toilet though!!

I can't go caffeine free....I'd be a zombie....and my kids would HATE me...LOL


AFM.....
9:30am- Tea
12pm (WOOOHOOOO) salad with cukes, green onion, 1/2 tin of tuna with little bit of mayo, celery and spices

I'm seriously impressed with myself! Although.....to be honest....my breath stinks and I am DIZZY! What great side effects LOL!

[swish]

Hi all!
It is HECTIC on here, I am reading everyone's posts and keeping up to date with everyone even I don't individually reply!! I agree with everyone that some fizzy pop helps keep me from snacking, that or fizzy water. I think your body craves sugar on this diet so that's why so many of us want sweets!!! Lots of the girl mums say they ate loads of sugar. I'm still in the 2ww, no symptoms today!!! Today's food...
No breakfast
Lunch cous cous with beans, cucumber, leeks and one piece of Swiss cheese, yogurt, actimel
Dinner gf pasta with courgette and mushroom, ww ice cream sundae (thus was yummy!) a bit if frozen yogurt(I couldn't resist!) strawberries

[zanacal]

Oooh swish, the ice cream sundae sounds lush - what flavour was it? I'm going to look out for that!

DM - I officially only weigh myself once a week but I won't pretend I don't sneak a peak in between! I definitely think it makes sense to only take note of your weight once a week though as our weight fluctuates so much on a daily basis. This will be my 6th week on the diet and as of last week I'd lost 18.5lb. I'd like to make it 21lbs (which is 1.5 stone) in 6 weeks if I can so fingers crossed! Check out the swaying while breastfeeding link as I asked lots of questions about cranberry/aspirin/Chitosan on there. I was nervous about taking Chitosan while BFing but I thought about whether I'd be nervous about eating shellfish and I wouldn't so I went for it in the end. I'm no longer breastfeeding and it's a relief not to have to worry about the other supplements. I was only going to take the baby aspirin very occasionally and after DS3's last feed of the day if I'd still been BFing. Regarding the calcium, make sure you're happy with your decision - I'd hate for you to be cursing me down the line if you think it's something you might regret not taking!

[DoulaMama]

Oooh swish, the ice cream sundae sounds lush - what flavour was it? I'm going to look out for that!

DM - I officially only weigh myself once a week but I won't pretend I don't sneak a peak in between! I definitely think it makes sense to only take note of your weight once a week though as our weight fluctuates so much on a daily basis. This will be my 6th week on the diet and as of last week I'd lost 18.5lb. I'd like to make it 21lbs (which is 1.5 stone) in 6 weeks if I can so fingers crossed! Check out the swaying while breastfeeding link as I asked lots of questions about cranberry/aspirin/Chitosan on there. I was nervous about taking Chitosan while BFing but I thought about whether I'd be nervous about eating shellfish and I wouldn't so I went for it in the end. I'm no longer breastfeeding and it's a relief not to have to worry about the other supplements. I was only going to take the baby aspirin very occasionally and after DS3's last feed of the day if I'd still been BFing. Regarding the calcium, make sure you're happy with your decision - I'd hate for you to be cursing me down the line if you think it's something you might regret not taking!

I had reservations about it anyway....so something was telling me not to take it....and I'm a big "sign" person anyways so with most people saying that they don't it just confirms what I've been thinking about. And I would never blame someone else if my sway resulted in a boy! I will gladly love a little boy if that's what I'm meant to have
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Plus my liquid cal/mag tastes like $hit....


Thanks for pointing me towards the bf thread I'll take a look at it! I wonder how easy it is to find chitosan? I never thought about aspirin not being great while nursing....off to research....
AND 18.5lbs!!!!
WAY TO GO MAMA!!!!!