January 2012 2WW

[toomanyboys]

i am 1 dpo today...or so i hope so that i am....very tender so am not sure..usually i loose all tenderness after ovulation but this time i am still sore. could that be becsue i may have geared up to ovulate but didn manage. my OPK has started to fade last night..so am assuming if i were to check to day it may be negaitve??wil chek in a bit to confirm that later today.

could i ask anyone who is also taking clomid here and who CARES to respond, whether having follicles of 15mm be released at 16mm. why did the doc tell me that if i am lucky my 15mm follicle from monday should be released on tuesday. that gives me a 2 day cut off. hubby back tomorrow so am hoping to DTD. i had another follicle at 12mm. he also said i might be lucky enough to catch the 12mm on friday and saturday. i don't undeerstand the logic does that mean the 15mm may not be released or the egg is not viable so the 12mm should be big enought o be released instead?thats sound like double ovulation. really confused...so i am not sure if i am 1dpo today or still watiing to ovulate.
:S

[Plum3]

hi girls..so as expected..i have been feeling tender and all tonight....had my scan and i have 2 large follicles..15 and 11.5.nothing on my left ovary though so clomid has not any effect on my left ovary this cycle. am told i could O tomorrow so hubby's contribution should cover the basis for that....if not then the other may come friday....which is perfect as hubby is here thursday night....doc also adviced to BD alternative days as this will increase chances of more viable sperm.....DTD two days in a row may decrease chances of producing viable sperm..so learned a bit more today..

FX the follicle that is 15mm large may do it for me this cycle???/was hoping that both follices will do it....but i assume that once conception takes place it prevents the other follicle to be released right? can anyone elaborate on that?

hoping to enter the 2ww real soon....whohooo

I am taking Clomid as well. In my experience I have never O'd with follicles less than 20mm in size. The eggs aren't mature enough if they are much smaller than that. Once my follicle/s get to around that size (sometimes bigger) I have a trigger injection. Do you have a trigger injection to help the follicle/s release an egg?

I'm not sure if another egg can be released after conception occurs. But I guess that's how non identical twins are conceived?

[toomanyboys]

no i won't be having any trigger shots as i am not currently under proper fertility treatment. i had to pay private to get myself checked out because i thought i was perimenapausal and underwent a test called the bodyclock test which suggested i still have a good ovarian reserve but that i have PCOS. that's when the doc prescribed me clomid. because i have 4 kids already (3 of which where threatened miscarriages) the consultant just told me to first loose weight, take BCP to regulate my cycles and when i am ready to conceive he prescribed the clomid for me but i am not being monitored on it at all. it is only because i am reading all this stuff on the net did i have to pay again to get the follicular tracking scan as my first round didn't work and i was worried about hyperstimulation.

so unfortunately, i am not getting anything with the clomid. trying my own remedies like progestrone cream, and robitussin to increase cm and pregestrone levels and diet. neither time i went for my consultation did they mention or offer me metamorfin or that they can use trigger shots or do this or that which is hugely annoying. they just told me to try for 6 cycles, then pause for 3 and try again and if it doesn't work then i should try IVF.

i wish i could get an IUI and trigger but that means more money which i haven't got!!!!
i am assuming that maybe not all follicles released are viable eggs so maybe that is what he meant when he said i could catch the other egg? i am not sure....you get tongue tied when you go to thesee appointments as you don't want ask all these questions and offend their field of profession. but yes i could ask so many detailed questions yet i forget until after my appointments!!grrrrr

as for my follicles he said that these can be released by the time their 16mm...so he assumed that i may O by tuesday...he didnt seem to say it would happen on wednesday. also why would my OPK turn negative. this means my 15mm should be released today to be at least 19mm. or my OPk should stay positive no? if i am still to ovulate?..so confused....

ps OPK negtiave today...so can OPK become positive and then negative and i still may have not O'd? also....can it become positive again like say tomorrow ? i never had a OPk go form positive to negtiave to positive again.....i think i am 1dpo and i did O.....oh well 12 days to go....last time i spotted at 12 dpo and AF showed up....fingers crossed my 2 ay cut off will do it....but i wont hold much hope....already i am totally dry and i thin with no cm it may not look so good yet again...

[rainbowflower]

the LH surge is caused by oestrogen being produced by the developing eggs - so you only get the surge when the dominant egg is mature enough to be ovulated

if two eggs are ovulated it happens within 24hrs of each other (i.e. the same LH surge causes both to be released because the second was nearly mature enough when the LH surge started)

[toomanyboys]

aww...thanks girls....well all remains to be seen now....doc told me to go on 150mg says 2-6 for me next round....my O pains were so bad this time i am dreading to have to do it all over again....i think i will then give it a break after that one...this time i will not obsess about symptoms...since last time i had all the symptoms of PG under the sun and never was...i will just aim to wait..it out...not...lol.....

wishing everyone better luck though....so happy for those with the BFP's it makes up for my dull days of the 2ww....lol

[Plum3]

Is the doctor you see a fertility specialist? Obviously I'm not an expert but I would have thought 16mm wasn't big enough to release an egg. I might be wrong though. Everyone is different and just because I don't release an egg with a 16mm follicle doesn't mean someone else can't!

When did you start using OPKs? Clomid can give false OPKs if you start doing them too soon after the last Clomid tablet. I learnt the hard way. I thought I was going to O because I got a + OPK, but it was just the LH produced by the Clomid. Your LH fluctuates so the OPK might be quite dark one day and then faint the next. Was it definitely a positive that you got?

[toomanyboys]

Is the doctor you see a fertility specialist? Obviously I'm not an expert but I would have thought 16mm wasn't big enough to release an egg. I might be wrong though. Everyone is different and just because I don't release an egg with a 16mm follicle doesn't mean someone else can't!

When did you start using OPKs? Clomid can give false OPKs if you start doing them too soon after the last Clomid tablet. I learnt the hard way. I thought I was going to O because I got a + OPK, but it was just the LH produced by the Clomid. Your LH fluctuates so the OPK might be quite dark one day and then faint the next. Was it definitely a positive that you got?

yes he is...it is a private fertility clinic...to do the whole assisted process it will cost me over £600 including medication but that would involve bloods, scan and monitoring. but since conception is a such touch and go thing i cannot afford to fail again and again IYKWIM...i managed to get th e clomid inlcusive with these scans but any more help and then i got pay for it. if i were to go to the NHS i will be put on hold for months esp as i am not an emergency case since i have children already...to get the scans and be referredand frankly i dont want to waste time. plus they wouldnt do much different apart maybe form scanning and blood works....i wouldnt eligible for IVF until i have tried everythign else for at 2 years.

oh does clomid give false positives??i didnt know that...see i am learning something new everyday. the doc told me that the follciles ned to be at least 16mm or more of course to be viable...i am 100% sure i ovulated becasue of the cramping and stiches i have had all day yesterday today i have lots of stiches and cramping in the centre of my uterus so i am not sure whats that all about....my left ovary did not responde the clomid appearantly so i am surpised to get stiches there.

i caught the sure on sunday thought it was pretty positive then but yesterday it went darker then the control so i i knew it is completel positive, then in the evening it faded again was till positive. today it is negative.

all i can hope that i caught that egg or if miracles do happen i will release another today or early tomorrow an d then have hubby come in the evening to do DTD with me......anyway...fx for all of us struggling with this. as for kids...i ahve 3 boys and 1 girl whom i conceived after an MC. she was a total accident. DH does not want anymore kids but i cannot imagine just stopping like that so we agreed we can try one last time for that girl...if it is a boy we would be ok too..of course but am hoping clomid, age, chees, cranberry and timing will all help increase my chances to give my beautiful daughter a life long friend!!!!

[purplepoet20]

CD12 and O is waiting. I have been cramping all night and they are getting stronger but no "pop" feeling yet like I normally get. Didn't get to dtd last night cuz hubby was so tired he fell asleep with the boys. So looks like we may get a 2-3 day cutoff after all. I haven't been J&D so I hope my tubes are loaded with girls. We will dtd after O... whenever that happens.

I am so excited because I dreamt about a little girl asking for princess dresses. I wanted a tomboy but I would take a princess

[Yahmama]

Spotting started today... pretty sure tomorrow is going to be cd1 for me again...Don't know what I was expecting the month right after a chemical...

[Hobbermittens]

Sorry yahmama. I hope next month is your month!