So many questions about my pink sway...

[atomic sagebrush]

even if you have to drop diet TOTALLY. STOP what you're doing NOW.

You need to do whatever it takes to stop the weight loss. If you can't eat more, then you need to cut back on the exercise.

18.5 is my absolute lowest threshold for swaying. I do not want anyone to drop below that, and if you've lost weight, then you're below my minimum cutoff. No more weight loss. Even if you have to drop diet totally and just become a vegetarian then do that. what is going to happen is that you'll stop ovulating and then won't be able to get pregnant at all.

[atomic sagebrush]

So we can't totally know O to the day, is what I'm driving at. this may matter in terms of if your LP is enough to conceive with or not (keeping in mind that YES it can go back to normal again)

I need more info about what you are perceiving the protein limit to even be. I"m not sure I have that information from you at all and I've looked over the thread and havent seen it.

I am saying please stop eating 1200 calories a day from Mon-Fri and then eating tons of candy on the weekend.

I agree at 38 you should not skip months but that is in essence what we're doing if we don't get this under control. We have to fix the problem.

If it were up to me I'd just stop doing everything, stop counting stuff, quit the excess candy, and go onto a vegetarian diet and see what happens. This is risky too, though, becaause if you are eating so much sugar and carbs that it's basically making you have PCOS (which I doubt this is what is happening, it's much more likely that you are not eating enough) then it may not fix anything because vegetarian diets are pretty carby. But we'll know that within a month or two and we can adjust then.

IF you go vegetarian, then continue exercise 4 days a week. If you keep eating 1200 cals then stop exercising.

[onelastsway]

Just a thought - could the bleeding be implantation bleeding? Might you be pregnant?

[atomic sagebrush]

Agh I'm sorry I replied to this but it didn't go through.

The thing with the O symptoms is that O really doesn't cause them, it's the hormones that trigger ovulation to occur. So sometimes the hormones can hang around longer than normal and keep causing symptoms even tho the egg has already come and gone, OR the hormones can stop even a day or two before O and so you don't have the symptoms but haven't Oed yet! The body is weird like that. So we just can't totally know where you are in the cycle.

Re the spotting, that could have been a very light period, or it could have been estrogen dropping in an anovulatory cycle, or it could be implantation spotting, or it could have been a bit of bleeding from the cervix. Any of those things are possible.

60 g protein and 60 g fat is still in LE Diet range! I often have people eat 50-60 g instead for a variety of reasons so if that is all you're eating normally I'd go back to that range. I am not surprised that you have irregular cycles if that is all you eat normally.

yes, your weird cycle and possibly lower fertility will sway pink, but we have to get you fertile enough to be ovulating regularly.

I can't say about the candy. I suspect that your problem is not eating enough, but I can't know that for a fact and so I feel concerned about the candy. If you are having some sort of PCOS related issues, a bunch of candy is the worst thing you can do for that. Without more info I can't say for sure and it makes me nervous.

I would go back to eating normally, but eat less candy, more fruit (this may help give up the candy??), keep doing exercise 4x a week, cut coffee and alcohol. That is just what I would do personally.

RE bleeding, many pregnancies start out with a little bleeding. I had a 5 day period and ended up with a baby 9 months later. And the cramping can actually be a good sign for conception as well.

[atomic sagebrush]

No, the bleeding is not a bad sign. I know it's hard to believe if you have never had bleeding before but a large minority of normal, helathy pregnancies start off with bleeding or have bleeding occasionaly during them. I had 5 days of fairly heavy bleeding and had a healthy baby 9 months later!

I would not be surprised if you are pregnant, I would avoid alcohol from now on until AF arrives or you get a positive test.

Yes, let's make those diet changes and see what happens. It may take a month or two to get things moving in a better direction. In the meantime if you notice anything like weight gain or if it seems to be getting worse instead of better, we will need to regroup again. LMK right away, if your weight goes up or if you suddenly break out or anything like htat.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'd wait to cut back on coffee since that causes unpleasant side effects from stopping, till BFP.

As you change your diet, if you suddenly gain a lot of weight or break out (like have pimples/zits) or anything I want you to let me know and I will suggest some more diet changes. This may indicate there actually is PCO-related issues going on due to the higher level of sugar intake and we'd need to change some things.

[atomic sagebrush]

All we can go off of is what the results say and they say 12 weeks was best, but 10 weeks was still good.

I can't tell you if your body was pink friendly or not. Just beyond my ability to know.

The old school sway advice has orgasm down as pink, but we've done a lot of threads and stuff with many girl moms having them and some boy moms not. I had one when I got my DD. It's done now anyway so I would try not to stress/obsess over it.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok, so it not dangerous to drink about 4-5 cups of coffee in early PG? I'm thinking if it could increase the risk of miscarriage??? I'm not ready to go back to tea yet since I don't know if I'm still swaying or not. I don't want to stop with the diet until I know for sure.

When do you suggest that I should do a PG-test? I really don't want to do it to early if it turns out to be a early miscarriage/late AF, if it make any sense?

The egg has not even implanted yet, it's not connected to your body. It is up to you but I would personally wait till you get a positive test to cut back on it.

Most will get a positive by 12 DPO and 99.9% by first missed period. We can't ever rule out early miscarriage though - it can happen at any point.

[atomic sagebrush]

What I meant is that I have lost weight, have very low BMI and seems to be in a bad condition re fertility, (and also vegetarian, 15-16 h fasting, exercise since December, coffee and wine). Maybe it's not so bad if I get PG in that condition? What worries me is that if I'm not PG, my cycles are even more messed up than I thought and I don't know when the next ovulation will show up and how long I could keep up with my sway?

I understand what you mean, Inhope. It is simply that I do not like telling people information that I do not have - as to whether anyone's sway will succeed or not. I would feel good about conceiving that way but I find people put way too much stock into things I say and when I say "oh yes you had a great sway" this ends up being "but atomic said I was gonna get a girl" so I simply prefer not to go down that path for people who are pregnant or may be.

[atomic sagebrush]

If you are 14 days past ovulation please take a pregnancy test as per my earlier suggestion.

The egg is not connected to your blood supply at first. Your baby gets its first nutrients from an egg sac it grows and only as the placenta grows do you start sharing blood supply.