Hi im new & looking for advice..

[Pbn3]

I would say both are possible but yes personally I'd be leaning more towards cd16 as o day at this stage. It will of course depend on more temps though...

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[Pbn3]

And I also recall feelong very frustrated at all of a sudden experiencing fallback rises... went from textbook temp rise comfirming o to fallback rise every cycle...

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[sofkay]

What are fallback raises? Why would it happen? Could it happen i had a 3dpo temp dip but still O at same point?

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[Pbn3]

A fallback rise is simy a dip back in temp post o for 1-3 days'ish. I don't know the reasons why, only that it does happen and can at any given time... the pic I've attached shows a couple examples [emoji4]

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[sofkay]

Thanks for all your help

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[sofkay]

Another pic chart.. so 15-16 temps on high side breaking 98.00 day 14 is typical 97.90 range pre O..

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[atomic sagebrush]

Well, that's why I do like you guys to keep trying after you think you've ovulated.

So you did try? GREAT! Because I'm not convinced you ovulated yet due to this big temp dip. I often see people have stairstep patterns where their temps go up, then go up, then go up and only afer the 2nd, 3rd or even 4th rise do they finally ovulate!

Because you're so zoomed in on the pic you posted I can't totally get a good picture of the rest of the month - could you repost a larger version so I could see earlier in the month and the temp range on the rt. side of the chart?

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok see the pic that pbn has posted above?? See how they say "it's also possible that they had a fluke high temp CD 21 and then Oed on CD 22??" I think that is just as likely as a fallback rise so I deffo want you to keep going with the BD now!!

[atomic sagebrush]

oh and to have another attempt if you aren't getting pos OPK, then you can either have another attempt when u think you are getting close to O (like a big surge of high libido) OR you can just have 2 attempts every 4 days (so you'd BD on Wed, Thurs and then count from Thurs for the E4d, if that makes sense.

[sofkay]

My chart this month. Embarrased of it really as such a fail try wise!
See typically i would hover between 97.90/98.00 max pre O the anything 98.20+ is after O..
I only temped from whatever day it was as others were too ill
Also where i put EWCM think being bit to generous to cm here as was watery had very! small stretchyness so though ah lets go ewcm cause eek never had even slight smallest bit stretchy also all creamys and creamy on day 16 pretty sure heinsight are watery when im torn between creamy and watery i put creamy and on second thoughts no so sure it was creamy especially not day 16 day 16 i remember really not being sure..!

Attempt wise pls explain again confused!

And atleast i learnt now not to go souly by temps & think broke 98.20 must have O. As like i said in 9 cycles this being 10th i never experienced it

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