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  1. #881
    OK weird that the preseed is different pH for everyone when it is supposed to be a 7.5! I'm thinking I won't use it ... I don't want to stress over that now too!

    hope.ful when you say one line of your OPK is darker than the other do you mean the TEST line is darker, or the control line? Because if it is the control line that is still darkest wait for the test line to become darker than the control. I know it is tricky but the first time I finally got a + (I usually just used smileys) I was like, Ohhhhhhhh... so THAT's what it looks like! It will be noticeable when it is +!

    iluv keep waiting it out, I guess! I know last O I didn't ever see a +OPK and it stressed me out, especially since we are trying this month. I don't know if I just didn't O (all the signs were there though, CP and TONS of CM) or if I somehow didn't POAS correctly and missed it. I got one that was pretty dark but not +, and I wonder if maybe that was it?? Because then they went white after that and never got remotely dark again.

    DH and I go on vacay tomorrow! Hooray for holiday weekends without my kids It's a shame I"m not ovulating now ... oh well, just hoping AF holds off til next week and doesn't creep into vacay time. BUT I will be offline til Tuesday so I hope everyone has great attempts if you're having one, and GREAT BFP's for our 2WWers

    Jen I think you're the farthest along in the 2WW right now so when are you planning to test? Is it 6DPO today?

  2. #882
    OK, ladies, bear with me....I have several comments to make!

    First of all, thank you for linking that website, Jen....LOOOOOOOVE it! That was helpful and a nice laugh first thing in the morning at my desk...I did not expect to see the computer animated humping there! And this leads me to commentary about women and orgasms in general....I do not know many girls that can have an O without helping themselves out while dtd. This kinda pisses me off! I think there needs to be a world-wide sex education class for men so they can learn WHAT THE HELL to do. Even if they are experienced, I don't think a lot of men get it. HELLO...I'm not going to O with you just ramming me with that thing. I'm about to school my DH for sure. He's fun and all, but I don't think he's had a woman ever sit him down and tell him what is up with the vag and how it works. I swear, they have to be taught. And I don't pity men, either...they can have an O without any special manipulation...something just has to be TOUCHING the weiner and it's all good. Sheesh. Ok, sex rant over.

    About the preseed.....Iluv, where did you read that? Mildly alarmed now, and will be googling after I finish this. Honestly, many many m/c happen, like half of pregnancies end in m/c, so there is probably nothing that will "cause" it other than your sperm and eggs having chromosomal abnormalities that unfortunately come together and fail. I am going to research though. Probably just coincidences, but still going to look into it.

    Iluv, not sure what is up with your cm....just try not to worry about it, it very well may be a good strong ovulation sign, or maybe your body is just releasing a little blood, or maybe one of the supps is causing it.

    And on the supp note......I can say this with 100% confidence: SUPPLEMENTS CAUSE YOUR CYCLE TO BE WACK. If you take anything at all, just expect that something will be late or early or something. Not that it's bad, and I don't think anyone should not take supps unless they really mess you up and you get too freaked out about it, but just anticipate that you will ovulate in a different fashion, and stock up on opks and your other O tracking supplies and just be patient. If you don't O for some reason, then it is time to stop the supps, because that clearly is not going to help in any way get you pg with your boy! I just say all this because it does freak us out when we expect to O on the usual CD13-15 like we used to, then when you are swaying, you are into CD18+ with no +opk and start to freak. Especially with the timing and abstinence crap, it makes for one big ttc stressball. So, after many months of experience with this now (ugh), I say that it is best to just be patient and track it. It is darn near impossible to have everything fall perfectly into place, so you just gotta pick what you are willing to keep trying and what you just can't deal with. Remember ANYTHING you do that sways is indeed swaying...not a guarantee of a son if you sway mildly or hardcore anyway, but every little bit helps. But it will mess with your body, just expect it. You can really let swaying and ttc consume your life, which is ok if you end up getting pg within a few months, but becomes very hard when you go past 6 months, so I hope everyone sees what I am trying to say here....because I really do want everyone to get pg soon and not have to go through what Babydes and I (and a few others, I think) for the better part of the past year. Well, and I'm old, so that doesn't help. LOL
    (2002) (2005) from 1st marriage. TTC since Aug 2010- Dx: low sperm count and 1% normal sperm. We are giving up and moving on with a baby-free life.
    UPDATE: surprise bfp in Feb 2013! It's a BOY!

    NEVER GIVE UP HOPE!

  3. #883
    Quote Originally Posted by babydes56 View Post
    So i dtd last night with preseed & a pinch of bs. When i tested the preseed before adding the bs it's ph was 6.5 so i'd suggest to those who are going to use it to add bs to raise it's ph. Am i the only one who doesnt enjoy rear entry, haha! My DH is 6"2 & well endowed & i'm only 5"3 so you can imagine how i love that position, NOT! Sorry tmi
    Yikes! Yes, I can't do it. And if some of our DH's are big, then doing missionary style hits my cervix and is deep enough, thank you very much. I just can't do it, it hurts too much. I am pretty confident that he is deep enough!
    TTC Blue!

  4. #884
    B, maybe you didn't O, that is normal to skip every once and a while, I think. Maybe the supps though? Man, it is not fair how some women become super ovulating baby-making machines on the supps and some of us make our ovaries go hide in a cave.
    (2002) (2005) from 1st marriage. TTC since Aug 2010- Dx: low sperm count and 1% normal sperm. We are giving up and moving on with a baby-free life.
    UPDATE: surprise bfp in Feb 2013! It's a BOY!

    NEVER GIVE UP HOPE!

  5. #885
    Quote Originally Posted by LolaInLove View Post
    You could TOTALLY do that with the ew! The first month I ttc and we used ew, I think I put WAY too much up there and it was just everywhere....I think we made an omelette between us in the bed, LOL. But, the other reason I go put it in then have an O (and I do it all sitting on the toilet....sexy, I know) is so that the excess comes out and there is just enough in there to help things along, and with the O, you know some got "sucked up" into your cervix where it needs to be. I think if you have too much it can be a hindrance to the sperm...like, instead of them getting in a pool to swim to the other end, they instead have to cross the Atlantic Ocean to get to the other end. I know I don't have 2ml of ew naturally anyway, why would you need that much?
    Sorry to hear that! My DH is all about giving me O's, even when I don't want them. I guess that is a good thing.

    And Q: I know we are supposed to O before DH to get alkaline out, but the suction motion of the O is so valuable and strong, that I think it is better to O right after him. It sucks the sperm in and gives it ahead start. Plus, all of that alkaline fluid might give it extra fuel for the trip. Just my 2 cents....
    TTC Blue!

  6. #886
    Quote Originally Posted by TTC5 View Post
    Are you girls taking notice of biorhythms/moon phase?
    I am always in the New Moon- every month , so I just use an electric blanket on low. Oddly, it doesn't affect my temps.
    TTC Blue!

  7. #887
    Quote Originally Posted by LolaInLove View Post
    B, maybe you didn't O, that is normal to skip every once and a while, I think. Maybe the supps though? Man, it is not fair how some women become super ovulating baby-making machines on the supps and some of us make our ovaries go hide in a cave.
    LOL! For real about the ovaries hiding in a cave

  8. #888
    Quote Originally Posted by SpicyTunaSushi View Post
    I am always in the New Moon- every month , so I just use an electric blanket on low. Oddly, it doesn't affect my temps.
    One of my DD's was conceived full moon, so I'm sorta what-eva about moon phases... I think it might impact some people but not others.

  9. #889
    Quote Originally Posted by SpicyTunaSushi View Post
    Sorry to hear that! My DH is all about giving me O's, even when I don't want them. I guess that is a good thing.

    And Q: I know we are supposed to O before DH to get alkaline out, but the suction motion of the O is so valuable and strong, that I think it is better to O right after him. It sucks the sperm in and gives it ahead start. Plus, all of that alkaline fluid might give it extra fuel for the trip. Just my 2 cents....
    It is a good thing....my DH can, but he is not as good and experimental with it as I'd like. The guy I dated before him kinda set the bar really high for me, I think.

    And yes, you are right....it would be ideal, actually, to have one before AND after!
    (2002) (2005) from 1st marriage. TTC since Aug 2010- Dx: low sperm count and 1% normal sperm. We are giving up and moving on with a baby-free life.
    UPDATE: surprise bfp in Feb 2013! It's a BOY!

    NEVER GIVE UP HOPE!

  10. #890
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaInLove View Post
    OK, ladies, bear with me....I have several comments to make!

    First of all, thank you for linking that website, Jen....LOOOOOOOVE it! That was helpful and a nice laugh first thing in the morning at my desk...I did not expect to see the computer animated humping there! And this leads me to commentary about women and orgasms in general....I do not know many girls that can have an O without helping themselves out while dtd. This kinda pisses me off! I think there needs to be a world-wide sex education class for men so they can learn WHAT THE HELL to do. Even if they are experienced, I don't think a lot of men get it. HELLO...I'm not going to O with you just ramming me with that thing. I'm about to school my DH for sure. He's fun and all, but I don't think he's had a woman ever sit him down and tell him what is up with the vag and how it works. I swear, they have to be taught. And I don't pity men, either...they can have an O without any special manipulation...something just has to be TOUCHING the weiner and it's all good. Sheesh. Ok, sex rant over.

    About the preseed.....Iluv, where did you read that? Mildly alarmed now, and will be googling after I finish this. Honestly, many many m/c happen, like half of pregnancies end in m/c, so there is probably nothing that will "cause" it other than your sperm and eggs having chromosomal abnormalities that unfortunately come together and fail. I am going to research though. Probably just coincidences, but still going to look into it.

    Iluv, not sure what is up with your cm....just try not to worry about it, it very well may be a good strong ovulation sign, or maybe your body is just releasing a little blood, or maybe one of the supps is causing it.

    And on the supp note......I can say this with 100% confidence: SUPPLEMENTS CAUSE YOUR CYCLE TO BE WACK. If you take anything at all, just expect that something will be late or early or something. Not that it's bad, and I don't think anyone should not take supps unless they really mess you up and you get too freaked out about it, but just anticipate that you will ovulate in a different fashion, and stock up on opks and your other O tracking supplies and just be patient. If you don't O for some reason, then it is time to stop the supps, because that clearly is not going to help in any way get you pg with your boy! I just say all this because it does freak us out when we expect to O on the usual CD13-15 like we used to, then when you are swaying, you are into CD18+ with no +opk and start to freak. Especially with the timing and abstinence crap, it makes for one big ttc stressball. So, after many months of experience with this now (ugh), I say that it is best to just be patient and track it. It is darn near impossible to have everything fall perfectly into place, so you just gotta pick what you are willing to keep trying and what you just can't deal with. Remember ANYTHING you do that sways is indeed swaying...not a guarantee of a son if you sway mildly or hardcore anyway, but every little bit helps. But it will mess with your body, just expect it. You can really let swaying and ttc consume your life, which is ok if you end up getting pg within a few months, but becomes very hard when you go past 6 months, so I hope everyone sees what I am trying to say here....because I really do want everyone to get pg soon and not have to go through what Babydes and I (and a few others, I think) for the better part of the past year. Well, and I'm old, so that doesn't help. LOL
    well said (about supps). but see now that im charting and getting to know and predict my cycles..id HATE to have to start from square one!! but at the same time i have to see if ther supps work for me. i think the key is MODERATION.

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