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    OK I should have clarified, I was referring to cutting out the supplemental magnesium. I am worried it is causing me to go to the bathroom too much. Could it be something else, like the calcium supp? I am still eating tahini and getting whatever magnesium in the above diet. I am trying to get DS to eat more and nurse less, but he's not really taken with the idea, and overcompensates at night.

    Thanks so much for your input, I'll keep my diet as is,maybe add the occasional wine, but was trying to keep low sodium low potassium, and make sure my pH stayed low-Is the theory that the high magnesium is keeping my pH low, or is it the low potassium/sodium, or both? I am considering cutting out the calcium supplement as well but not sure if I should. As you can see I drink no milk but am getting calcium from yogurt and cheese...

    Besides, the macronutrients of protein and fat sway a lot "harder" than any one of the micronutrients anyway
    Do you mean towards boy? I am worried that the reason I can't put on the wt. is my lack of protein but I am getting it from cheese and yogurt, and I am getting more fat from unsalted butter and oil than usual, so perhaps my diet is more boy friendly than originally. eek. Problem is, if I return to my previous diet (pre-swaying) it would have way more sodium and potassium. Maintaining wt, let alone gaining it on either the IG or low-everything diet is obviously meant to be hard!
    Eat a bit more hummus, a few more chickpease, more strawberries, use sugar in place of some of the artificial sweeteners and don't worry about the pizza or the bagel. Wine? Why not, a day or three a week.
    I can easily eat more chickpeas and strawberries! Am also trying to incorporate more raw unsalted almonds but worried about too much protein. Am worried about the hummus as it has a fair amt sodium, but I need to eat something! RE: the sweeteners, don't I need to keep those at least from AF-O to keep my pH down? I can still add sugar on top of them...

    BTW my glucose came back at 102, which while still low is higher than it has ever been, so maybe I am doing something wrong! I looked back at my blood work in 2008 and 2010 it was 70-80 (I conceived DS #2 in 2009) Wondering if sheer age causes glucose # to rise or if it had to do with the time of my appt (I believe I always went in the AM and this past time when it was 102 I went at 2 pm , and had eaten 2 meals already).
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    Hi ladies, today was Day 1 with my in-laws visiting, but I think I did pretty well anyway:

    Breakfast: coffee with a little skim milk
    Lunch: rice with a little light hummus mixed in (this actually wasn't very tasty - I prefer it with plain yogurt mixed in)
    Supper: This is where I got creative. I was making BBQ hamburgers for everyone, so I made a portobello mushroom burger for myself. I marinated the mushroom in balsamic, a bit of olive oil, oregano and pepper, then grilled it. I topped it with a slice of low fat provolone cheese and put it on a low sodium bun (it was actually pretty high in sodium, but the lowest ones I could find in the store - 210mg) with a little mayo. It was DELICIOUS, and no one even noticed I was eating something different. I also had a salad with balsamic vinegar on the side
    Dessert: I was feeling so good after my yummy dinner and noticed I was still well within my intake limits for the day, so I treated myself to one of the chocolate chip cookies they all had for dessert. MMmmmmmm chocolate. This was definitely a HUGE treat, and not something I'd have very often.
    Snack: Strawberries

    Calories: 993
    Fat: 26.1 (I would have been under 20 if it hadn't been for that cookie....)
    Protein: 29.6
    Sodium: 687mg

    I have been feeling a lot better about my diet lately since I realised that I am always way under the 700-1000 mg limit for sodium. I've started introducing very small portions of salty food (like hummus, peanut butter, and provolone cheese) into my diet. It seems so decadent after weeks of eating flavourless food, yet I'm still keeping well within the target range. My mushroom burger tonight was so yummy that I think I'm going to keep eating them instead of regular burgers sometimes after this whole diet is done.
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    Ah, good job mochagirl with that mushroom burger, that sounds really good, Iīm going to try that too.
    We grilled yesterday with relatives that came over, I had my own saltfree pasta salad (used the excuse that it was for my kids that donīt like olives and colored stuff in their food), had made some salt free buns that I ate with tzatziki and cream cheese and unfortunately I also had wine and some chicken .
    My protein intake was too high but the rest i guess was within limits.

    And any week day for me is like this and itīs very boring!:
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    10.30 decaf skimmed milk latte
    12.30 lunch iceberg lettuce with raw mushrooms and balsamico dressing, one plain serving of couscous, or gluten free pasta. Activia low fat yoghurt and a small decaf skimmed latte.
    16.00 peppermint tea
    18.30 dinner rice with leeks or grilled eggplant/zucchini with couscous or glutenfree pasta
    22.30 late evening snack I need it, I love it!
    small diet vanille yoghurt, two rice cakes with applesirup

    without the veggies
    cal: 956
    fat: 6,9
    protein: 38
    sodium: 425 mg
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    Quote Originally Posted by fourwildones View Post
    OK I should have clarified, I was referring to cutting out the supplemental magnesium. I am worried it is causing me to go to the bathroom too much. Could it be something else, like the calcium supp? I am still eating tahini and getting whatever magnesium in the above diet. I am trying to get DS to eat more and nurse less, but he's not really taken with the idea, and overcompensates at night.

    Thanks so much for your input, I'll keep my diet as is,maybe add the occasional wine, but was trying to keep low sodium low potassium, and make sure my pH stayed low-Is the theory that the high magnesium is keeping my pH low, or is it the low potassium/sodium, or both? I am considering cutting out the calcium supplement as well but not sure if I should. As you can see I drink no milk but am getting calcium from yogurt and cheese...



    Do you mean towards boy? I am worried that the reason I can't put on the wt. is my lack of protein but I am getting it from cheese and yogurt, and I am getting more fat from unsalted butter and oil than usual, so perhaps my diet is more boy friendly than originally. eek. Problem is, if I return to my previous diet (pre-swaying) it would have way more sodium and potassium. Maintaining wt, let alone gaining it on either the IG or low-everything diet is obviously meant to be hard!


    I can easily eat more chickpeas and strawberries! Am also trying to incorporate more raw unsalted almonds but worried about too much protein. Am worried about the hummus as it has a fair amt sodium, but I need to eat something! RE: the sweeteners, don't I need to keep those at least from AF-O to keep my pH down? I can still add sugar on top of them...

    BTW my glucose came back at 102, which while still low is higher than it has ever been, so maybe I am doing something wrong! I looked back at my blood work in 2008 and 2010 it was 70-80 (I conceived DS #2 in 2009) Wondering if sheer age causes glucose # to rise or if it had to do with the time of my appt (I believe I always went in the AM and this past time when it was 102 I went at 2 pm , and had eaten 2 meals already).
    1)Oh duh, some days I read a LOT of posts and sometimes my brain gets damaged LOL. YES magnesium can make you go #2 a lot but usually at higher dosages than 100. I would still cut it out (over the period of a couple weeks) because of the low nutrient idea. I would also phase out the calcium supp but I totally understand that people don't feel comfy with that.

    2)The pH stuff and the mineral stuff are two different theories. Some people try and make them link together by twisting and stretching the facts half to death, but they don't because calcium actually tends to make people's pH RISE.

    Mineral theory - cal/mag attract X sperm to the egg via ions (PLEASE NOTE that I do not believe this theory, just saying what the theory is.)

    pH theory - X and Y sperm "like" different pH and Y sperm is "frozen" by low pH. (Again, I do not buy this theory - although I do think pH can sway at least a bit by killing off sperm)

    3)Yes, towards boy. Protein and fat tend to sway blue especially when eaten with a lot of carbs. Personally I think you're just not eating enough calories to replace what you're burning off. Protein doesn't make people gain weight very easily, it's carbs and fat that do that. I would like to see you upping your carbs to gain weight because I think that's the "safest" for pink sway. I am not sure that eating MORE fat than normal is the best thing to do for pink but you may have no choice in the matter if that's the only way you can gain.

    4)If you make your own hummus without salt, that's the best option. Of anything, I think the sodium sways least (because people have an unlimited taste for salt, I seriously doubt that of all the baby girls conceived every day, that ALL or even most of their moms were eating barely any salt.)

    5)You don't NEED artificial sweeteners. Again, of all the baby girls who have ever been conceived, most were long before the advent of artificial sweeteners!!! If you want to continue eating htem, that's fine, I'm just saying that sugar has a lot of calories in it with no protein, no fat, and it may even help with your blood sugar by contributing to a sugar crash.

    6)Yes, being tested after eating will cause your glucose numbers to rise. It is totally normal for there to be fluctuations in your blood sugar levels. Blood sugar level of 102 is just fine.
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    I love the mushroom burger Mocha!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    I love the mushroom burger Mocha!!!
    I highly recommend it. It felt like a HUGE cheat, but it really wasn't since I was very careful with my sodium/protein intake for the rest of the day (other than that cookie). It would have been even more in line with the diet if I'd made my own sodium-free bun, but I think the commercial bun made it even yummier . The cheese is what made it seem so decadent.
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    I was very bad all weekend...... bagels with butter and cream cheese, 3 donuts, normal soda, fries, and burgers. I should have planned ahead for the yardsale weekend.

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    Well done, mocha, on your first day with the in laws, ig sounds like you did great!!!!

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    Purple, my weekends are always worse than the week, I'm sure you will lose again during the week, gl!

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    I was happy - especially since I was able to eat my mushroom burger without them even realising I was eating anything different. At lunch I managed to eat only a slice of swiss cheese, some grapes and a yogurt while they all scarfed down multiple sandwiches, but now I'm starving! I think I might make quiche tonight since I can eat that with them, but I'll have to make sure to take a very small portion. They want to eat late tonight since dh has a baseball game they want to see at 6. I'm not sure I can wait to eat until 8 when I haven't eaten all day!
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