Miracle attempt finished....

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm so sorry. You are not being punished. Huge hugs.

[MrsGoodies]

Thanks Atomic,

I stopped swaying 3 weeks ago and right now I'm pigging out because

A) I'm depressed
B) I'll need my strength to get thru the mc
C) I haven't gained much weight and I need something to lose if I start up LE again


Questions:

1) when should I start LE again?


2) i was on it 4 months...bfp off for 8 weeks...miscarried....then LE 7 months straight before this bfp....off for 3 weeks

Do you think the 3 weeks off is going to make a difference. I think they say minimum 12 weeks on it?

3) do you think the LE is causing the miscarriages? Should I be adding more nutrition into my diet at this point?

[purple]

I'm sorry MrsGoodies. It seems so unfair for this to happen to you again. Have you had any testing on the previous losses or will you get testing on this one? I was told it was possible after 3 in a row.

I hope everything goes smoothly for you. Take care.

[MrsGoodies]

I'm sorry MrsGoodies. It seems so unfair for this to happen to you again. Have you had any testing on the previous losses or will you get testing on this one? I was told it was possible after 3 in a row.

I hope everything goes smoothly for you. Take care.

Thank you Purple,

Yes I will be testing if I can get a good sample. I tested my last two losses also.

[atomic sagebrush]

1) I'd start it as soon as you're emotionally ready.

2)I think you are fine to TTC as soon as possible. Pregnancy/losses take a huge toll on the body and so that "counts" as time spent on diet really. You do not and given your age SHOULD NOT wait around trying to go back on diet 12 more weeks. TTC as soon as you are medically able to.

3)No, I do not think that LE Diet ***when done properly*** causes miscarriages in any way. It is based on World Health Organization recommendations for a healthy diet for women of childbearing age that may become pregnant at any point - it is just the minimum level of that, and on the guidelines of reproductive endocrinologists for their patients undergoing IVF that need to shed a few pounds.

Now that having been said, sometimes people do not DO LE Diet as written and are basically starving themselves.

What I want you guys to be eating is:
1500-1800 cals a day (and if you lose more weight than you should you need to bump to 1800-2000)
40-50 g protein or 50-60 g protein (and fruit and veg do not count in this)
30-60 g fat (and fruit and veg do not count in this)
Cheating now and then is mandatory in part to be sure you get a chance at nutrients that you may not be getting enough of.

After 7 months on LE Diet I would generally have you add in iron 18-60 mg 3x a week, iodine if you do not have thyroid issues 150 IU a day, zinc 8-15 mg 3x a week. IF you never eat meat add in lowest dose B12 1 or 2 times a week. If you never/rarely eat dairy, add in lowest dose D you can find 1-2 times a week.

Also just because of the losses let's also add in 1 serv. full fat dairy a day, 4-6 eggs a week, and one serv. salmon if you like it, red meat if you don't just to be sure you have enough good stuff coming in to make hormones with.

[MrsGoodies]

Thanks Atomic.

That helps alot!

I'm glad the 3 weeks off won't affect much since I don't have time to waste.

[1moregirl]

MrsG - what did the doctors find after testing was done after your other losses Hun? I didn't get to have any testing done after my last 2 losses. Obviously the the one in May was too early but last year with the 10 wk loss most of it (inc my precious little one) got flushed away down the loo (something that hit me really hard). I have tears in my eyes as I type this message to yuo MrsG. I was soooo happy for you getting yuor BFP and had been praying that all would go well. It makes me wonder how I will feel also about ttc if I have another loss. Anyway, I hope yuo are going ok Hun and enjoying lots of love and cuddles from your adorable boys. Xx

[purple]

1moregirl, they won't do testing here unless you have had 3 consecutive miscarriages. Even when I had my 3rd one this year they wouldn't test as they were not consecutive, just 2 in a row which is fairly common.

[MrsGoodies]

Hi 1moregirl,

Mc#1 - unknown, no testing

Mc#2 - girl since it was a hi tech cycle

Mc#3 - dr told me it was due to bad chromosomes/age. After testing revealed normal boys. Cause of mc was then determined to be large SCH under Twin A.

Mc#4 - dr told me it was probably due to low progesterone so I was blaming myself for not starting the supps sooner. After testing revealed Girl T15 at least i could stop blaming myself about the progesterone.

Insurance won't cover any testing. I've paid out of pocket for it.

[MrsGoodies]

40-50 g protein or 50-60 g protein (and fruit and veg do not count in this)
30-60 g fat (and fruit and veg do not count in this)

Also just because of the losses let's also add in 1 serv. full fat dairy a day, 4-6 eggs a week, and one serv. salmon if you like it, red meat if you don't just to be sure you have enough good stuff coming in to make hormones with.

Ih, that's good clarification. I was including fruits/veg in the fat&protein totals.

Does that mean eating avocados does not count as fat?

Full fat dairy serving do you mean milk or can cheese be full fat. i only drink 1% milk. I really don't like 3.25% at all ...or milk in general but when I cut out the meat i added dairy as a replacement.

I was only eating 1 egg per week so I will up those as well.