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    awesome article!

    This article is fantastic on two fronts - firstly it shows clearly why cutting back too strictly on calories can actually backfire and slow/prevent weight loss, and it also has a good explanation as to why intense exercise, long term stress, and caloric deprivation can sway pink while short term stress is actually kind of good for you and sways blue (the paragraphs about cortisol).

    Why Big Caloric Deficits and Lots of Activity Can Hurt Fat Loss | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald
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    We don't know and can't know with available information. There isn't a researcher on the face of the planet who gets how it even works (which is why every other day, some new contradictory study comes out regarding heart disease and weight loss and what works best).

    More about this later, writing an essay this morning
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    What if 2 years ago I was under the most intense stress a person could ever be under? And it lasted about 6 months and I still have issues with it even though it all ended well for my family. Does that still count in my pink favor? lol
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    Follow up question received via PM - I haven't had time or mental energy to reply to this thread because it will take some research and thought and I'm a bit drained after events of the last week. I hope to get to it tomorrow but posting now for discussion if anyone is interested.

    Harleyquinn wrote:

    I don't really know how to ask this on the public forum without leading you to advise swaying in an unhealthy way.

    But this whole cortisol thing...I did a refresher read this morning and it seems there is kinda 3 stages your body goes through: (and this is beyond mere fight or flight, they are talking chronic stress)

    1) The first stage is REACTION. The body experiences the symptoms from the trauma, infection, heat, cold, chemical irritation, etc. The endocrine system responds with the release of cortisol and other hormones to compensate for the trauma. The heart beats faster, the blood pressure rises, the pupils dilate,

    (2) The second stage is ADAPTATION. After the adrenal glands have enlarged and released large quantities of adrenal cortical hormones, the symptoms disappear and the individual feels good, has energy, and is able to function in the presence of the stresses he/she is under.

    (3) The third stage is EXHAUSTION. After an extended period in stage two, the body's reserves of nutritional elements (raw materials) and resilience becomes depleted. The symptoms return and there is now no relief. The individual may collapse physically, suffer a nervous breakdown, become dysfunctional and/or experience an organ or body system failure (heart attack, stroke, etc.)

    So the third stage would be...adrenal exhaustion, where cortisol is so excessive for a long period of time, that the adrenals are so over-taxed that cortisol is now at an unnaturally low level (for your particular body).

    In your opinion, if one is interested in stress as a sway factor, is the goal to be in #2 (elevated cortisol..experiencing stress) or #3, the point of renal exhaustion. Is #3 swaying pink? I left out #4, which was death. LOL.
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    Wow. WAY too complicated.
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    and one BEAUTIFUL little girl!
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