hmmm.. you might be right about calcium atomic!!

[lindi]

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&client=safari

I'm starting to come round to your way of thinking.... thank you so much for all the analysis and info you put on this site!

[nuthinbutpink]

Great article, lindi!

[Viene]

Thanks for sharing!

The thing it says in the bottom about higher insulin levels equals lower testosterone in men made me realize that it works opposite in women with PCOS. More insulin equals more testosterone for PCOS gals.

[lindi]

Thanks for sharing!

The thing it says in the bottom about higher insulin levels equals lower testosterone in men made me realize that it works opposite in women with PCOS. More insulin equals more testosterone for PCOS gals.

Hmmm... You're right.

[atomic sagebrush]

The calcium/testosterone link is extremely interesting because bone mass also increases with the amount of muscle you have - it makes sense to me on a gut level that in order to build maximum muscle mass (because of and along with elevated testosterone) you may NEED to simultaneously increase your calcium at the same time. Meaning that a mechanism could easily have evolved so that increased calcium intake triggers testosterone production. Your body WANTS to have big muscles and it takes every opportunity to build them, so if your diet helped increase your bone mass, your body might "think" it's a good time to build muscle as well.

Let me think on the insulin thing for a bit. Insulin is complicated!!

[atomic sagebrush]

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/site/...erone-booster/
http://www.ergo-log.com/calciumt.html
http://www.livestrong.com/article/14...-testosterone/

[lindi]

http://www.livestrong.com/article/14...-testosterone/[/QUOTE]

another reason I've got that fiber capsule going! I'm starting to see some serious flaws with the IG diet. AND did you know cilantro lowers testosterone?

[lindi]

http://www.ergo-log.com/calciumt.html


this study talks about calcium gluconate- and IG recommends very adamantly calcium CITRATE. Any reason for that you think?

[Viene]

AND did you know cilantro lowers testosterone?

Seriously? Wow, I've never heard that before. I eat a lot of cilantro. Love the stuff.

[atomic sagebrush]

Calcium citrate is supposed to be better absorbed. But we dont' even know if we WANT the calcium to be absorbed into our bones. All we really know is that women who followed the French-style diet had more girls. We don't know why.

Great info about the cilantro! I so appreciate all your info!!!