Short luteal phase, need advice!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much for your input!! I did BBT for the first time this month. I did have a dip about 4 days before I ovulated and then a rise after, so it seems that I ovulated when I got the positive OPK, but prior to the dips my temps were ALL over the place. I work night shift so I think my temps are a little off because of that. Not to mention our master bedroom faces the sun and is hot in the summer and freezing in the wonder, so right now in the afternoon when I take my temp after sleeping all day after working, it is bright (despite blackout curtains) and about 80 degrees in that room. Even after the spike in my temp after ovulating I am not very far above my baseline temps though[emoji53]

I am leaning toward giving clomid another month. After this 3rd cycle though, my OB wants to do a semen analysis and check my tubes for blockages and I don't really want to go that route, especially if I am still ovulating late despite the Clomid.

I am just clinging to the hope that all this struggle with getting pregnant makes me more girl friendly! [emoji178]


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I think we deffo need to go to e4d and possibly add in an additional attempt at pos OPK. It may be that your attempts were just ill timed.

Temping can often be weird on Clomid and many doctors even tell people not to temp on Clomid.

I think you should keep going with the Clomid and we will do things to improve odds of conception.

[skillet04]

Well please forgive me ladies as the past 13yrs i have been an avid reader and member of all things pcos based most likely on a flipiant diagnosis just to get me out of the docs office as i "look textbook healthy" and so i only for sure knew it was rx for those not ovulating....yet no doc would suggest it to me....again my apologies...was just trying to brainstorm possibilities. Meant no need to quote and point out my ignorance ;-P

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[jdd1017]

Clomid is the gold standard for lengthening LP but on occasion it doesn't fix it. I do want to assure you though, that 10 days is enough to get pregnant.

No one can say why your cycle was normal in April. May have been dropping the supps or some other reason.

I am wary of your taking Pregnitude because unless you have a proven reason to use it (moderate to severe PCOS) it will only make your problem worse.

If you're on fiber, drop it. Add in one serv. full fat dairy every day, 4-6 eggs a week, and a serving of salmon or red meat every week.

Can you tell me more about your diet and weight?

I think a call to the doctor may be in order as they may want to switch you to a different medication or add in prog. supps.

I think you need to stop doing one attempt and go to every 4 days, possibly with one more attempt at positive OPK now. It may be that you're not pregnant not because of the short LP but you're just missing O.

Okay I won't do pregnitude. I definitely don't want to make things worse!

I usually only remember to take the fiber a few times a week, but I will drop it completely. I went from drinking a couple glasses of milk daily to none in the past two months, so I will gladly add that back in! I still eat cheese occasionally, probably once or twice a week. I also eat red meat probably once every two weeks and chicken probably once a week. I am not a big fish eater so I will prob just stick with red meat lol.

As far as my diet and weight go, I have lost about 15-18 lbs since March. My BMI went from 25, which I just discovered is considered overweight... to 22.5. I have been doing 60 min on the elliptical an average of 5 days a week for the past two months.

I called my OB last week and asked for a progesterone level to be drawn, they said since I ovulated late they really can't do it on day 21 like they normally would. They did tell me they could draw a day 3 level though, so I will do that. I also asked about progesterone suppositories and his nurse said they only do that if there is a history of miscarriage. I will have to discuss it with my OB at my appt though...I would think if my day 3 progesterone comes back low they would consider doing them.

My FF app thinks that I ovulated on day 19. It is weird because I did have a lot of lower abd pain that day that I figured might be ovulation pain and the ovary getting ready to release an egg. Then the next day I got my + OPK. The thing that really sucks is that I forgot to take my temp on day 20, so could I have ovulated that day instead of day 19? We hadn't BD since day 15 bc it was becoming a huge chore, so we did it on day 20 when I got my +OPK. I still have a very very tiny sliver of hope that maybe I ovulated on day 20 and will just have a longer cycle this month and maybe this will be my month. But I am preparing myself for that not to be the case and moving on with what to do next month.

Next month I absolutely plan on doing every 4 days and an additional attempt at OPK. I will still do OPK but I am so mad at myself for relying so heavily on those and not just DTD on a regular schedule in case they were wrong.

Thanks for your advice!!!! I'm hoping next month will be the month...I feel like I say that every month now lol!

[purple]

Can you post a link to your FF chart?

[jdd1017]

Sure!! If I can figure out how![emoji16]


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[jdd1017]

I took a screen shot of it. I had a dip this morning, so I think I'm officially out. The last 3 days I worked night shift and my temps seem to be higher when I check them in the afternoon.
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[atomic sagebrush]

I quote people solely to avoid confusion in threads where no one knows who is talking to who. Not trying to call anyone out at all, simply because it's easier to read a thread where everyone knows what the heck I am talking about.

For reasons I will never understand, some doctors refuse Clomid to women for whom it's medically indicated. I do not know why this is because Clomid is a very safe medication and can help many women who are not ovulating. Lots of women with PCOS are given Clomid even when they are ovulating because it can lengthen LP which can be chronically short in people with PCOS.

My advice for anyone who should have gotten Clomid and is not being given it, is to go to another doctor. There are many doctors who are willing to help and it is THE treatment for anyone who has been TTC a long time (with or without PCOS) and not fallen pregnant.

[atomic sagebrush]

JDD - the good news is that your weight is such that it's not likely that is the issue. I'm going to take a look at your chart and sound off on that (this may explain everything) but at 22 BMI you should still be ovulating, esp with the Clomid.

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, you've definitely ovulated and I think much earlier than you think you did.

That temp dip is NORMAL at 7-8 DPO. It very well may rebound tomorrow and stay up for a few days.

I think the Clomid has made your temps a little goofy too so don't read TOO much into them - but just to clarify, are you saying you're also temping sometimes in morning and sometimes in afternoon???

[jdd1017]

Well, you've definitely ovulated and I think much earlier than you think you did.

That temp dip is NORMAL at 7-8 DPO. It very well may rebound tomorrow and stay up for a few days.

I think the Clomid has made your temps a little goofy too so don't read TOO much into them - but just to clarify, are you saying you're also temping sometimes in morning and sometimes in afternoon???

Yea, since I work night shift sometimes my temps are taken at 3-4pm when I wake up after sleeping all day bc I worked the night before and if I didn't work the night before they are taken at 5:30 am. I am so new to the temping thing that I guess I don't really know how to read the chart yet lol.


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