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    Extend short LP when taking Clomid

    Hi.

    So my previous two cycles I got AF at 5DPO. Iíve upped my cals to nearly 2000 (my fat and protein were already 50-60g) by increasing rice/potatoes/sweet potatoes, and this last month AF came at 8DPO. Iíve gained 4lbs and this last cycle I took an iodine supplement once a week (0.35mg which is twice the U.K. RDA), which have obviously both helped. I donít want to increase my cals, fat or protein any more as I donít feel comfortable with that. I was thinking about taking two iodine supplements a week, and Iíve taken one B12 dose and one dose of vitamin d. Is that OK? What else would you recommend to help with my short LP?

    Iíve been on the diet for 11 months now, except for two lots of two weeks where I had pregnancies that didnít work out and Iíve only been taking folate (1000mg) and CoQ10 (200mg) per day during that time (except for a time where I doubled the folate and I took a prenatal for the two lots of two weeks I knew I was pregnant).

    I saw on another thread that you said that low oestrogen can be as a result of low weight/low fat, and that Clomid can make this worse. I thought thatís totally me, but I didnít want to hijack that ladyís thread! I have one last round of Clomid to take, which I want to, so I really want to give this month my best shot without dialling back to blue.

    Thank you!

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    If you're really getting your period that soon on Clomid (sometimes people are mixed up about when they ovulate but if I recall you're very knowledgeable) they may need to give you progesterone supps to lengthen it. (even though I agree this is an estrogen issue, the prog supplements will still lengthen the LP)

    I suspect it's the weight gain and not the iodine that's helping but I regularly will have people take iodine daily 150 IU when they've been TTC a long time. I would take that daily.

    Let's add in iron 18-30 mg daily and zinc 8-15 mg daily.

    I would have you up fat to 65 or even 70 g.
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    Thanks for your quick response.

    I have some progesterone supplements left over from when I tried going HT. I was taking three different types then, but I’ll only take one. Shall I take that from the day after I ovulate?

    I’ll get the iron and zinc too.

    I’m a bit nervous to up my fat, but note that you think that’s what’s helping. Should I definitely do that too?

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    if the progesterone cream is available (for most people it isn't) I'd do that without upping the fat. Start 3 DPO and go till 12 DPO BUT of course be sure you have taken a pregnancy test. If you're pregnant you'll need to do them for 3 months straight so you'll need to be sure to be able to get in to the doc and get more if you don't have enough.
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    Ok. It’s actually tablets I have rather than cream. I’ll see if I can get the cream.

    So I’m on CD3, so due to start Clomid again today. I’ve taken three pregnancy tests - all clearly negative - which have been at 8DPO, 9DPO and 10DPO. As my LP is so short, it’s too early to get a positive test. I have had a bleed, which was heavy on CD2, but much lighter today, and, as you may recall, I’ve had the situation before where I got what I thought was my period, had a negative pregnancy test, and then found out I was pregnant a few weeks later.

    Do I start the Clomid or wait, and if I wait, how long can I delay it? Is it still effective for swaying if I delay taking it?

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    the tablets are not terribly effective, the pessaries are what you want.

    You can delay till CD 5 or even 6. It's still as effective for swaying although may be ~slightly~ less effective for conception. My gut instinct is to have you wait one more day and split the difference.

    I do remember what happened in the past and I do always recommend erring on the side of caution. But I do thing that given what you've described I'd proceed by CD 5 at the latest.
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    Thank you.

    I’ll start on CD5.

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    So although last month my LP lengthened to 8 days, this month I’m back at 5 days again, despite making sure my cals were up at nearly 2000. I really don’t understand why I’ve gone backwards - especially because my last cycle was slightly longer (because my LP was), plus I started the Clomid a couple of days later (which I thought would lower the amount of Clomid in my system overall). I’ve added in some supplements too.

    I’ve taken Clomid for five consecutive cycles and have run out now, and I don’t want to get any more (despite the fact that I feel like it’s a bit of a golden ticket). I do have one round of Femara though and I don’t know whether to take it or not. I feel like (perhaps mistakenly) it’s the Clomid that’s shortening my LP. Is Femara likely to do the same? Is that enough meds back to back? What would you recommend? I really value your advice.

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    It can be the Clomid. Some people respond better to the Femara. But after 5 cycles it's time for a month off anyway. I would not have you do anything this next cycle and see what happens.

    What supplements are you taking?? Some of them make matters worse.
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    ^^^^ but still DO try!
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