Help me Atomic!!

[Biene2019]

Dear Atomic

One more quick question. I now try every 3 days as I said.

One thing still interests me. Does it matter whether the only attempt is on the 1st MAX day or 2nd MAX day? So specifically, is the chance of pink on both days the same?
(slow or fast sperm, although the theory has been refuted).

[atomic sagebrush]

Do you mean every 72 hours??

Saying "every three days" is too confusing. That's why we only say "every four days" and then specify that as in the 72 hour pattern or 96 hour pattern, because otherwise people mean different things by the number of days and it gets confusing.

Timing doesn't sway, it doesn't work at all, so it would make no difference when your attempt was. Now, it can matter for odds of conception.

When you say "max" do you mean "high" or "peak"? I haven't heard anyone call it "max" before and I want to be sure what you mean exactly.

There is no slow/fast sperm, just as you say it's been debunked.

[Biene2019]

Yes, I mean every 72 hours, I never try before 72 hours :-)

On my Clearblue Ferility Monitor it mostly shows "3 days HIGH" and then "2 days MAX". Do you know what I mean?

Now my question was on which of the two MAX days the probability of pink is higher. The monitor says that from the "1st MAX", ovulation occurs within 48 hours. I think I mean "great" by MAX.

All right, I still have the Shettles theory in the back of my head and I'm scared the closer to ovulation the more likely blue is but I try to push these thoughts aside and be brave :-)

and does it matter whether my husband abstains for 3 days or 4 days with the attempt at "MAX / SPITZE" because of the sperm volume? Then does this still sway pink?

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks! That's exactly the explanation I needed.

What we call "peak" is what you're referring to as "max." So I would have attempt the day of the first "max" unless you want to keep going with Shettles. If you do want Shettles, then you can have attempt on the day of the second "high" reading.

We have not found any of the patterns of abstaining or releasing to really matter for swaying. If your husband abstains for 3 or 4 days that's fine.

[Biene2019]

what do you think of that?

"Until 12 o'clock after ovulation it is more likely to be a girl again. Since the skin of the egg is thicker and the male sperm do not have enough strength to come through it."

[atomic sagebrush]

It's complete nonsense.

[Biene2019]

all right thanks Atomic for replying over and over again.

My ovulation has moved back firmly, which is hopefully a good sign. I now have every 3 days and tomorrow is my "2nd Peak, 2nd MAX" and I'll give it another try.

It makes me very nervous, because you read in so many forums that many women who had sexual intercourse at ovulation resulted in a boy. The Shettles also says yes (abstinence with an attempt at the Peak gives boy).

I'm trying to be brave, keep your fingers crossed for me and thank you again :-)

[atomic sagebrush]

Shettles has been as debunked as it is possible for something in science to be debunked. We know Dr. Shettles was wrong, we know how and why he was wrong, and scientists have proven beyond a doubt that his claims of X and Y sperm were absolutely incorrect.

All those people on websites who say they ovualted on a certain day - they have no idea. They're doing exactly like you're doing...wondering how their OPK is working, wondering if they'll ovulate on the second Max day or the first, when to have attempt, etc. It just does not work. When scientists actually accurately pinpointed ovulation they found 50-50 boys and girls conceived every cycle day.

[Biene2019]

hello atomic

unfortunately it didn't work out this month. I dropped every 3 days and all other patterns. My ovulation has postponed a lot and I already have some red mucus 5 days before my period. The temperature is also not really high in the second half of the cycle and it lasted 15 days.

Now my question would be, do you have any advice on how I can positively influence the second half of the cycle? Or should I just let it be? I have already added a small morning meal to my 2 other meals because I lost too much weight (am already quite thin :-))

I think I ovulated but have a little trouble in the second half of the cycle. Maybe you can give me a tip. Thanks. I was hoping I don't have to bother you anymore, sorry :-)

[atomic sagebrush]

What do you mean you have dropped all other patterns?

As long as the temp is high enough to indicate ovualtion that is all that matters. The spotting beforehand is likely because you are not eating enough fat.

If you have lost too much weight you need to eat more. I want to see you eating a serving of full fat dairy every day, 4-6 eggs a week, and a serving of salmon or red meat every week. Stop weight loss totally. What is your BMI?