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August 23rd, 2020, 01:09 PM
#101
Big Dreamer
Originally Posted by
atomic sagebrush
Yeah, I'm sorry but the implantation dip isn't a real thing. What that temp dip actually is is a surge of estrogen called the "secondary estrogen surge" that happens as the corpus luteum starts to wither away. This helps to maintain the lining (and since estrogen causes lower temps the temp drops on some charts) until a baby can finish implanting and send the signal to the body to maintain the corpus luteum longer, and then it will start making progesterone to sustain pregnancy till the placenta forms and takes over that job late in the first trimester.
So unfortunately that dip does not mean pregnancy. Now, just like HLM noted, FF did study this phenomenon and while it's true that there are more pregnancies in charts that have a good dip, that is very very likely because they were more "hormone-y" and not because the dip itself tells us anything - since there are many, many charts that end in pregnancy that don't have that dip, and quite a few charts that DON'T end in pregnancy that DO have that dip. It's one of those correlation does not equal causation type of things unfortunately.
But that is still a very gorgeous chart and I hope that temp rebounds into the stratosphere tomorrow.
Thanks for that! You always explain much better than I can. that’s why I always put “implantation dip” in quotes, haha. It’s easier to say that secondary estrogen surge too! I definitely think there’s something to the “more hormone-y” aspect of it. My dip this cycle was also accompanied by a big increase in CM — started off watery then progressed to large amounts of watery/creamy type mix, to the point I had tons of it when wiping. That’s not the norm for me in my LP either, so I can see how the “more hormone-y” aspect of it can explain that too.
It’s funny because I had other more “pregnancy like” symptoms in my last two cycles, when we didn’t even BD around ovulation because we weren’t trying yet Like my boobs were SO SORE my previous two cycles to the point it hurt to touch and jogging was painful, in the last week of my LP. Like more sore than they are now. But, I didn’t have the dip, or the increased CM in those two cycles.
Just my random observations, I know totally anecdotal and you can have any symptom any cycle and it not matter in relation to pregnant or not. Just interesting to look back and see and compare
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August 23rd, 2020, 02:09 PM
#102
Dream Vet
Thank you to both of you!! This was a Femara cycle, so I suppose the “hormon-y” thing is true! I read that study by Ff this morning and was hoping I’m a part of the 23% that have it. I would love to join y’all in the due date group too!! I’m feeling super hopeful this month which will be hard if I’m not in fact pregnant.
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August 24th, 2020, 06:25 AM
#103
Dream Vet
I do have a nice rise today after the temp yesterday! Hopes are going up!!
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August 24th, 2020, 07:17 AM
#104
Im so excited for you!! Fingers crossed and sending you pink healthy dust!
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August 24th, 2020, 07:43 AM
#105
Dream Vet
Originally Posted by
ProudMom90
Im so excited for you!! Fingers crossed and sending you pink healthy dust!
Thank you!! I hope I’m actually pregnant!!
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August 24th, 2020, 10:50 AM
#106
Big Dreamer
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August 24th, 2020, 01:50 PM
#107
Best of luck and have everything crossed for you too!
Sept 2019
Swaying for a
Hoping to get pregnant by Christmas!
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August 25th, 2020, 04:24 PM
#108
Hey all! Im struggling for recipes - anyone got any good recipes / meals they make regularly on the girl diet? Thank you in advance! V
Sept 2019
Swaying for a
Hoping to get pregnant by Christmas!
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August 27th, 2020, 08:37 AM
#109
Dream Vet
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August 27th, 2020, 11:59 AM
#110
Dreamer
Congratulations dear !!!
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