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    Thank you !! I’m going to give a try and add in cardio as well. Coffee. I love it. I can do 3-4 cups a day does caffeinated or non caffeinated help or hurt my sway. 2 of the cups are black and 2 are cream with sweet n low.

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    Yes, you can have either caffeinated or decaf, or a mix.

    Both black and with cream is fine. Just tally the cream in your cal intake for the day.
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    Hi Atomic I just saw I didn’t see some messages from our thread.

    According to my calendar when I thought I would ovulate I didn’t have elevated LH or solid smiley. The solid smiley came 5 days after that so my cycle day 19.

    Yesterday was my last day of af. 96 hour pattern you say is more pink ? My confusion with that is what happens if it doesn’t line up with a solid smiley ( positive opk) if we were to start that pattern today.

    Also how many of the fiber pills do you suggest ?
    And you would recommend dropping rephresh ?

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    I'm just quoting this so I can see it on the same page as your question

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    We are getting great results with e4d. It still counts as one attempt because the attempts are far enough apart to still count as one attempt. Most people do this in the 72 hour pattern and it's still considered one attempt, but you can stretch it a day to the every 96 hours if you're ok with lower chance of conception.

    I have everyone start with one attempt at first solid smiley (or first positive on classic OPK) but after a month or two of that I have you guys move on to e4d.

    Can you please clarify what you mean when you say "my solid came five days after what would have been ovulation day on a calendar"?
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    So the most likely explanation is that you ovulated later than you thought.

    Well, we GUESS that 96 hours is better for pink, but we're getting good results with the 72 hour pattern too, so they're both good.

    Yes, it might not line up with a positive OPK. We don't care about that. Some people may have better chance of pregnancy on a different cycle day, not on the day of positive OPK, so by having attempts every 4 days we're going to change up the time you have the attempt in relation to ovulation in case you are not getting yoru best chance of conception on the day of first positive OPK.

    If you want to take fiber, use the minimum dose on the bottle (doses vary by brand) only with meals containing fat. if you're not eating fat, skip the supplement.

    It's your call on the RepHresh, but it hasn't worked and does cut odds of conception.
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    Okay we are trying the 72 hour pattern this cycle !

    I also dropped the rephresh and the fiber.

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    Just want to be sure it's clear you don't need to be 72 hours per se, just that is how you count the days!
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    Hi Atomic !
    So we did e72 this month. Last evening (tuesday) we dtd and this morning I had my first solid smiley face. So technically now we won’t be dtd again until Friday
    Is this how e72 is supposed to work ?

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    Yes, that is how it's supposed to work. Your attempt from last evening will cover you for a couple days and then the Friday attempt will have a shot if you ovulate later than that. You may want to aim at early on Friday rather than late at night.

    If you want max odds of conception you can add in another attempt at positive OPK. But this may be less pink friendly than just the e4d in the 72 hour pattern.
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    Okay I think I will stick with the e4d / 72 and do Friday early. Since I do want to aim for a pink sway. And only been attempting since may.

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