Girl sway again this time doing alternate diet plus more

[atomic sagebrush]

Awesome!! Happy Mother's Day to you as well!

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, absolutely you count calories in cooking fats. The only thing you don't count calories in is low carb vegetables. Everything else you count calories.

[Kazzzz]

Yes, absolutely you count calories in cooking fats. The only thing you don't count calories in is low carb vegetables. Everything else you count calories.

Ok got it.
Do we count fat in oil too?
And do we count protein in things like vegetable stock and condiments etc? Is it the same like count all fat pro an cals unless its low carb vegetables?
I'm going to make wholemeal buns today so I'll be even more at ease when I'm eating 100% wholemeal bread/buns but I'll keep store brought 50/50 stuff in the freezer for a backup.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, you count fat in oil.

You count nothing in low carb veg, they're free and unlimited.

Count calories ONLY in higher carb veg (the sweet and starchy ones) but not protein and fat.

The exceptions to the above rules are avocado, in which we count cals and fat since they're very high in fat, and beans/peas where we'd count calories and protein, since they have a lot of protein. But everything else works that way.

Count calories, protein, and fat, in everything else. If something is super duper low, like mustard or veg stock I'd probably not bother with counting them, but you need to be honest about how much you're eating and how much is in them.

When it comes to things like condiments, you'd be surprised how much is in them. Mayonnaise, salad dressing has a lot of fat and cals. Ketchup, sweet salad dressing, barbeque sauce has a lot of calories and in some cases fat.

[Kazzzz]

Yes, you count fat in oil.

You count nothing in low carb veg, they're free and unlimited.

Count calories ONLY in higher carb veg (the sweet and starchy ones) but not protein and fat.

The exceptions to the above rules are avocado, in which we count cals and fat since they're very high in fat, and beans/peas where we'd count calories and protein, since they have a lot of protein. But everything else works that way.

Count calories, protein, and fat, in everything else. If something is super duper low, like mustard or veg stock I'd probably not bother with counting them, but you need to be honest about how much you're eating and how much is in them.

When it comes to things like condiments, you'd be surprised how much is in them. Mayonnaise, salad dressing has a lot of fat and cals. Ketchup, sweet salad dressing, barbeque sauce has a lot of calories and in some cases fat.

Do we count fat in beans like say kidney beans?
And i use a lite greek dressing do you think thats ok? I think it says less then 1g carbs no protein no fat an i just count the cals in it.

[Kazzzz]

I'm finding myself heavily relying on greek yoghurt to get my fats up each day is that ok? I'm still losing weight so now I'm actually aiming for 60/60 as a daily target by using things like Greek yoghurt and even some butter like today on my bread when I'd normally have hummus. I'm trying to hold my weight. I want to get my period back soon but I'm still breastfeeding my 14m old plus exercising 6 days a week so hopefully not too much going on that it will be delayed much longer. I've only lost 0.6 kgs in a wk still slowly treading downwards but I'll see what these new increases do.

[atomic sagebrush]

Do we count fat in beans like say kidney beans?
And i use a lite greek dressing do you think thats ok? I think it says less then 1g carbs no protein no fat an i just count the cals in it.

Ok. I want you to go back and reread my answer above, because I actually told you this already. I told you in avocados to count calories and fat, and in beans to count calories and protein, and if I'd wanted you to count fat in the beans, I would have said it at that point.

I truly think you ask me these questions as a control freak, anxiety reducing mechanism and not because you don't know the answers. Again, I don't mind answering your questions, as many as you have, but it's quite clear to me that these aren't "real" questions and are simply you attempting to mitigate anxiousness by focusing inordinately on minute details. I'm not sure how else to impress upon you how serious an issue this mindset is for your sway outcome, but it is highly predictive of sway opposites.

But, just to shed some further light:

Dry kidney beans and their canned equivalent naturally have so little fat that it would be listed as NO fat or some minuscule amount like .8 g, and we'd not count them. If you're looking at a can of beans that have more than zero g fat, they've added something in them like lard or oil and then you'd count the amount of fat in them.

You would ALWAYS count any added fat to things like fruit, veg, grains, etc.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm finding myself heavily relying on greek yoghurt to get my fats up each day is that ok? I'm still losing weight so now I'm actually aiming for 60/60 as a daily target by using things like Greek yoghurt and even some butter like today on my bread when I'd normally have hummus. I'm trying to hold my weight. I want to get my period back soon but I'm still breastfeeding my 14m old plus exercising 6 days a week so hopefully not too much going on that it will be delayed much longer. I've only lost 0.6 kgs in a wk still slowly treading downwards but I'll see what these new increases do.

It's time to stop asking me about dairy within limits. You already know the answer. Dairy within limits is fine. Continuing to ask the same thing again and again is not beneficial for your sway.

It's GREAT you've upped your limits. That's what I want you guys to do. Even if you need to go up to 65 g pro and fat plus 2000-2200 cals to stop excessive weight loss, do that. We still see excellent results in people who had to increase calories to stop weight loss, so it will not undo your sway to do that.

[Kazzzz]

It's time to stop asking me about dairy within limits. You already know the answer. Dairy within limits is fine. Continuing to ask the same thing again and again is not beneficial for your sway.

It's GREAT you've upped your limits. That's what I want you guys to do. Even if you need to go up to 65 g pro and fat plus 2000-2200 cals to stop excessive weight loss, do that. We still see excellent results in people who had to increase calories to stop weight loss, so it will not undo your sway to do that.

I'm still new to all this pcos diet stuff and i never counted stuff last time so I'm trying to remember everything my memory isn't great as is. Sorry if i ask things twice I'll start writing notes to look back on as I'm normally in a hurry an don't have time to reread everything on here. My canned beans had like 5 grams of fat so i just included it. It must of had some oil added. I'm learning everything slowly thanks for your help atomic.
I do feel worried with my ocd that I'm destined to have a 4th boy 😔 which i can't change. I don't know what to do but hope that everything else I'm doing will be stronger then my ocd. I decided not to take the anxiety/ocd medication and I'm just trying to be more mindful.

[Kazzzz]

Hey so I'm getting clomid do you have any advice? I'm thinking about getting 30 100mg and just breaking them in half because I'll get double that way or i can get the 50mg an brake them in half if only 25mg is recommended?