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    Ovulation help!

    Hi atomic,

    I appreciate I am about to ask a lot of questions so feel free to take your time in answering or Iím happy to buy a plan if you think I need more help than you can offer here.

    So since my MC in November, I canít seem to work out if Iíve really ovulated or not. I get the fade in and outs, smiley on the day of highest surge (I donít temp) but may start. Iím 11 months pp and still breastfeeding so am keen to get things moving before my milk supply dwindles now my baby is approaching 1 and for those reasons Iím doing the alternate diet again . When I had my last baby I was over weight from a previous birth which I hadnít lost and medication I was taking back then (domperidone) so I had a lot to lose..around 14kg and Iíve managed to lose 11.

    I wonder if I might not actually be ovulating because of poor diet or if we are just unlucky in not catching each month (I know you wonít possibly know if Iím ovulating or not) but if we are thinking about diet, Iíve lost 24 pounds since May, my Bmi is currently 22.2 but I was not meeting the minimum for cals I was averaging around 1300-1500 (I know this is not recommended and has been unintentional) and I was just about meeting the protein minimum some days (but I was getting 50-60g of fat) I have now increased to around 1700 but Iím tying not to count and obsess but consume more of what I was missing.
    Some days itís just been a case of forgetting to eat or just having a full on day but also habit because when I started my weight loss journey, I was actually putting on lots of weight at 1800 cals
    So my question is, could this likely be a factor? I mean Iím not underweight by any means but the lack of protein (some days) and cals? Or could it be a hormonal issue after recently having a MC? Iíve always been super fertile (hence all the boys) and Iíve been smaller and still ovulated on this kind of diet before but it almost seems like Iím not actually ovulating or we are just not timing it correctly. We have tried one attempt at first peak, one at second (which was probably no good) and even had two attempts one month accidentally and still nothing. Just to add, from may I was doing X3 60 mins of exercise per week at 1800 cals but not losing much until I dropped some cals at which point I slowed down the exercise and have now stopped since November. If Iím doing 1700 do I need to start exercise again or forget it for now to make sure Iím getting what I need to feed and function/regulate everything again? My cycle is usually 32 days and DH is 36- no supplements Iím 34 and take 1 iron supplement 2-3 times a week as Iím low, but not anaemic anymore.
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    Well, the plans are what enables me to do this as a job so if you appreciate my help, buying a plan is a great way to allow me to make a living while helping you and others!

    Actually I can tell with about 99% certainty (if not more) that you're ovulating. If you're getting your period, and it's coming fairly regularly, the odds are all but 100% that you are ovulating. If you weren't ovulating, then your period wouldn't come. This is even MORE certain if you're getting a smiley at the appropriate time midcycle. I'm sorry I can't quite work out what you're saying with all that - you are getting a smiley meaning a positive OPK, right? And about when it should come? - I mean, your period is arriving about 14 -15 days after your solid smiley?

    So if we eliminate that you aren't ovulating, I am assuming what you're actually asking me here is why you haven't conceived yet, right?

    Based on what you describe, and the fact that your BMI is still in a good zone, and that you're eating enough fat, I ~doubt~ that this is diet related. (and if your cycle is fairly regular, and you have a 12-14 day LP, it is not going to be related to diet stuff)

    Much much much more likely is that you're doing things that are inadvertently cutting odds of conception. Can you give me more information about OTHER things like shallow release, jellies or douches, antihistamines, jump and dump, hot baths, that sort of thing? Those are the things that prevent conception far more often than diet does.

    I absolutely recommend exercise, because it's a great sway tactic. You can eat a bit more to compensate if you need to but for best chance of pink you will exercise. It is really a step in the wrong direction to drop exercise when you want a girl.

    What I would have you do now is to switch to e4d to ensure you're covered all the month through. Start having sex, unprotected, every 72 hours or so (it does not need to be to those hours exactly, that's just how you count hte days), after your period ends and carrying on thru till when your next cycle begins. That way if you're getting those positive OPK at the wrong time of month you will be covered in case of early or late ovulation.
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    Thank you for your response.
    I will take a look at the plans.

    Yes, periods are fairly regular and yes, youíre correct. a positive opk is what I meant (smiley) with a 13 day LP.

    Ahhh ok! Iím starting to get the picture. Absolutely no jellies, douches, antihistamines, hot baths or anything like that. Iím not doing shallow release (but may have done on occasion) But I have jumped and dumped some of the time.

    Yes Iíve officially started exercising again. I only really stopped due to the MC which was incomplete until end of November then I got lazy but Iím back on it now.

    e4d sounds like a good plan.
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    Yes then it sounds to me like you are ovulating just fine!

    I would have you guys go to e4d in the 72 hour pattern now. It may simply be that having an attempt at peak or the second peak is just not working and you need to change it up. So after your period ends, I'd start having unprotected sex in that "Monday, Thursday" pattern (just any time that day! and it does not have to be THOSE days particularly but that's how you count the days) and continue on till you're certain you've ovulated, even if that means going all the way thru till the next cycle begins!!

    I would drop shallow release completely and extend the length of time you're J and D five minutes more than you HAVE been doing. So if you weren't doing it at all, go to five minutes. If you were doing it for five minutes, go to ten. And then if we don't get lucky this month, we'll just add on another five minutes, etc.
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    Thank you, That sounds great.
    To be honest Iíve not intentionally done shallow release I just aware some of the positions air more on that side of things and J&D Iíve only really done when Iíve been desperate for a wee 😂 so definitely not every time.

    Would you mind clarifying what positions fall under shallow release please
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    Shallow release is when people DELIBERATELY as a sway tactic, are having their husbands pull out to the far edge of the VJ when delivering the payload, LOL. If you're not doing that, then you arent' doing shallow release.
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    Thank you so much for clearing that up I actually thought it was certain positions that delivered the load further from the cervix. Lol
    No we are not doing that and never have
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    Nope, virtually all normal, run of the mill internal sex positions are good for conception. (exception might be some of the weirder moves from the Kama Sutra or whatever, LOL) but anything that is a typical sort of position has a great chance of ending with conception.
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    Lol 😂 Well thatís good to know.
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