ColdWater, can you take a look please?

[Butterfly Spirit]

Like my younger two they get twins all the time too!!

Forgive me I haven't gotten to either of your pics yet! LOL My sis is over here right now.

Did you see the 'too I told you all about? ;) Oh wait you haven't added the person I told you to yet! :P

[Butterfly Spirit]

lol Yes!!! My first two are 11 months apart and I get asked all the time if they're twins! I'm going to pack in soon and get some sleep, I'm so hyped up! LOL

Forgive me I haven't gotten to your pics yet!!! :) My sis is over here so I'm distracted!

I love how your daughter's name will sound with your last name!!!

[JoannaK]

Forgive me I haven't gotten to either of your pics yet! LOL My sis is over here right now.

Did you see the 'too I told you all about? ;) Oh wait you haven't added the person I told you to yet! :P

It was Kathy I was meant to add right? I did add her before, I hope it was the right one! But I found her from your friends list

[Butterfly Spirit]

It was Kathy I was meant to add right? I did add her before, I hope it was the right one! But I found her from your friends list


UH OH LOL I just sent a request... might need to msg that other person and say oops! hahahaha

[Butterfly Spirit]

UH OH LOL I just sent a request... might need to msg that other person and say oops! hahahaha

NO you have the right one!!! I'm talking to TTC5 when I asked her to add Kathy lol

[pinkin2011]

Dont be sorry ttc5! I shouldnt look at baby girl clothes!

[JoannaK]

UH OH LOL I just sent a request... might need to msg that other person and say oops! hahahaha

hahahahahaha whoops!!!! Will post some more tomorrow- my DH is starting to get shitty that I'm not paying him attention! I will leave you with these parting words from my thread over on in-gender : ***UPDATE**** - In-Gender.com (http://in-gender.com/cs/forums/p/247356/2307516.aspx#2307516) and check out how "numbers6and7" (screen name) gave me a nice hammerblow on my confidence in a girl! Talk about rude... :(

[Butterfly Spirit]

hahahahahaha whoops!!!! Will post some more tomorrow- my DH is starting to get shitty that I'm not paying him attention! I will leave you with these parting words from my thread over on in-gender : ***UPDATE**** - In-Gender.com (http://in-gender.com/cs/forums/p/247356/2307516.aspx#2307516) and check out how "numbers6and7" (screen name) gave me a nice hammerblow on my confidence in a girl! Talk about rude... :(

No you're fine!! You added the right one!!! :)

LMAO DH HATES How much time I spend on here!!!!!

Checking in one min

[JoannaK]

NO you have the right one!!! I'm talking to TTC5 when I asked her to add Kathy lol

Ohhhh ok I'm caught up now!

[pinkin2011]

So does my d/h!! rolls his eyes when he sees me on this site!

[Butterfly Spirit]

hahahahahaha whoops!!!! Will post some more tomorrow- my DH is starting to get shitty that I'm not paying him attention! I will leave you with these parting words from my thread over on in-gender : ***UPDATE**** - In-Gender.com (http://in-gender.com/cs/forums/p/247356/2307516.aspx#2307516) and check out how "numbers6and7" (screen name) gave me a nice hammerblow on my confidence in a girl! Talk about rude... :(

Don't let those beeches get to you!!! :( Maybe you shouldn't hang out there anymore.

[JoannaK]

So does my d/h!! rolls his eyes when he sees me on this site!

See pinkin, rule number 1 with scans. Wait until you get confirmation from a PROFESSIONAL before you post them on the net- I told everyone on in-gender that this bub IS a girl (see, im getting better ttc5!!), and now this woman has come on and just beaten me down again, to the point where im questioning EVERYTHING all over again: it's the second last post ***UPDATE**** - In-Gender.com (http://in-gender.com/cs/forums/p/247356/2307516.aspx#2307516)

[JoannaK]

Don't let those beeches get to you!!! :( Maybe you shouldn't hang out there anymore.

I think I'll be taking that advice butterfly! There are some REALLY nice ladies on there, but sadly there are a few real COWS, really horrible. Why didn't this woman just say "wow congrats", why do these people have to really try to break you down!! It's awful! And this is a woman who apparently lost twins at 18 weeks, you'd think she'd have some perspective!

[Butterfly Spirit]

So does my d/h!! rolls his eyes when he sees me on this site!

HAHAHA Right right! I used to hide it but now I don't even care!

[pinkin2011]

I am going to have a look and that is so terrible!!!

My d/h gets uptight about me being on here because he does see me get upset ( I am not upset because of this site) But Upset because I want a girl so bad

[Butterfly Spirit]

I think I'll be taking that advice butterfly! There are some REALLY nice ladies on there, but sadly there are a few real COWS, really horrible. Why didn't this woman just say "wow congrats", why do these people have to really try to break you down!! It's awful! And this is a woman who apparently lost twins at 18 weeks, you'd think she'd have some perspective!

I see some I recognize from here ;)

I have the same name there too but I never go there.

[pinkin2011]

Joanna you shouldnt need to justify yourself to her you should of totally ignored her.. That is disgusting and I cant believe she wrote something like that to you! Makes me so bloody angry. Dont even give her your energy on writing back to her. She is just nasty

[pinkin2011]

Gosh Look at me I am obsessed who doesnt get like that when they want something so bad and feel its true!!

[pinkin2011]

And a tech will not just tell you what you want to hear ! That just doesnt sound right

[Butterfly Spirit]

Joanna you shouldnt need to justify yourself to her you should of totally ignored her.. That is disgusting and I cant believe she wrote something like that to you! Makes me so bloody angry. Dont even give her your energy on writing back to her. She is just nasty

I'm daft I guess, I can't find the post!

[pinkin2011]

click where it says UPDATE and you will see Joannak But scroll to the post before hers

[Butterfly Spirit]

click where it says UPDATE and you will see Joannak But scroll to the post before hers

Thank you! Oh the post RIGHT after hers! okay.. WHAT A BITCH!!!
There I said it! LOL She's just jealous eh?

[TTC5]

hahahahahaha whoops!!!! Will post some more tomorrow- my DH is starting to get shitty that I'm not paying him attention! I will leave you with these parting words from my thread over on in-gender : ***UPDATE**** - In-Gender.com (http://in-gender.com/cs/forums/p/247356/2307516.aspx#2307516) and check out how "numbers6and7" (screen name) gave me a nice hammerblow on my confidence in a girl! Talk about rude... :(

Geeeeeee not nice!

[TTC5]

Ok ladies am off to watch Greys!!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Ok ladies am off to watch Greys!!!!

11.5 HOURS!!!!!! ;)

[pinkin2011]

I am going to bed i think! Do you watch Offspring? I am hooked on that show

[Waiting4Daisy]

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[TTC5]

11.5 HOURS!!!!!! ;)

11 hrs!!!!!!!!!!!

Really hope I get some sleep tonight lol

[TTC5]

I am going to bed i think! Do you watch Offspring? I am hooked on that show

Night!!!!!!! xoxo

[Butterfly Spirit]

11 hrs!!!!!!!!!!!

Really hope I get some sleep tonight lol

Oh sorry I did that wrong!! LMAO. I hope you do too!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

I can't vouch for the other ladies over there but I'm sorry if it seemed I was doubting your girl from what I said. I just honestly do not want you to get crushed and I personally do think 13/14 weeks is a little early, although from what you said your tech is amazing at what he does and he is a professional as opposed to us lot who are just keen amateurs (bar a few actual techs). I am thrilled to pieces you heard girl, I think some posters are just suggesting caution because we have seen other people be told X or Y at 14/15 weeks (sometimes even more) and then find out later they were having an opposite. If you had a pic if would obviously help us reassure you that it is indeed a girl (as I'm sure it is!). I think the poster worded her post wrongly, I don't think she meant it to sound patronising (and I did think it came across that way). I think we just all feel for you so strongly and know how much you have gone through that we don't want you to go through any more heartache, and that is why we are just being a bit cautious.

Of course you must look at girl clothes! 80% is a high percentage and your tech was sure enough to tell you! I think people are just wary remembering past ultrasound mistakes and that is why they are suggesting waiting until further confirmation. I hope you haven't been upset by it.

I knew I recognized your name Daisy! You weren't rude at all. We weren't worried about you at all! :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

I am going to bed i think! Do you watch Offspring? I am hooked on that show

I Love Lucy on here LOL

Night!! :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

Night!!!!!!! xoxo

Night lady!!! :)

It will be a FANTASTIC DAY tmw just wait and see!!! :)

[Waiting4Daisy]

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[JoannaK]

Hi again ladies- You can tell I'm addicted can't you? I've already gone down the path of "oh just one more post!" LOL!!! And yes waiting4daisy is a BEAUTIFUL lady, she was one of the ladies I was thinking of when I told everyone here that there are a few really nice people on in-gender. I just thought what whatever her name was, numbers6and7, was unnecessarily mean- particularly the part at the end about "why did you get a picture if you were obsessing so much", because pinkin, you're EXACTLY right- who WOULDN'T be obsessing over something they want so much!??? And I was just flabbergasted that she would suggest that my doctor would tell me I'm having a girl because he knows how badly I want one... Wouldn't that be, like, a REALLY bad doctor!!!!!?? And I know for sure that this is no bad doctor!!! Anyway that's all I wanted to say, I just came back on to let everyone know how happy I am to have a bunch of such beautiful new friends, and even if I heard boy today, or she grows a little hose between the legs, I'm so grateful to have this wonderful support :) xxxo talk to everyone soon, I'm sure! Oh and my TV addiction show is top gear- I CANNOT fall asleep at night without it running, I can tell you anything you need to know about Ferraris LOL... Damn you insomnia..!! Take care everyone!!! xox

[JoannaK]

Oh and ttc5, I've got an alarm on my phone set for your scan!!!! I'm trying to find the most BOYISH ringtone that will play when the alarm goes off!!!!!!!!! :p and NO that's not a jinx!!!!!! I can't wait !!! :)

[TTC5]

nawwwwww how cute !!!!

Ok really logging off now haha

[pinkin2011]

I hope to get a Peek at my baby on monday I will be 15 weeks 2 days so If she does tell me I will still wait to confirm it at 20 weeks! If she does say Boy tho I think I will believe her!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Night Joanna it was wonderful meeting you and talking to you tonight. Goodnight! xoxo

DREAM OF PINK!!!! ;) Oh the fun you'll have now.

[Butterfly Spirit]

nawwwwww how cute !!!!

Ok really logging off now haha

XOXOXO HAHAHA ;)

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And BTW you have BEAUTIFUL GIRLS!!!!! :D

[pinkin2011]

TTC5 Good Luck for tomorrow but trust me you wont need it!!!

[Waiting4Daisy]

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[Butterfly Spirit]

Aw bless night night ladies (it's 12.43 pm here!)! I'm glad Joanna because I really did not mean to rain on your parade if it seemed that way. I thought that poster was trying to make a fair point (about not trusting accuracy of early scans) but then she said the bit about not caring about gender which I thought was a bit unfair because she already had a mixed family and everyone does care about gender a little bit (or most people do anyway!). I hope you have a nice night ladies :-)

wOw cool! It's 5:50 am here! :) Where do you live? I am in the US.

[pinkin2011]

BUTTERFLY why are you up so EARLY!!!

[Waiting4Daisy]

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[Butterfly Spirit]

BUTTERFLY why are you up so EARLY!!!

The night has been so much fun!!! :)

[Foxy]

Hope the tech is right. 13 weeks can be very tricky. Good luck!

[nuthinbutpink]

Did I miss the picture? 13 weeks is really early for an 80% guess but I saw DS' goods at 13 weeks. When were the pics we've been looking at taken?

[3 men & a little lady]

I really hope the tech is right. It may seem like everyone is trying to put a downer on things but really they aren't. They are just being cautious for you. We would hate for you to have your dream broken at your next scan as 13 weeks is soooo early for gender guesses. Even the tech only said 80%. Why not say 100% if he was so certain? I don't think they should be allowed to guess unless 100% certain. I would love more than anything for you to get your girl. I have been following your story over the last year and have been amazed by your strength. I really hope you do hear girl and it's 100% next time. FX for you hun xxx

[JoannaK]

I really hope the tech is right. It may seem like everyone is trying to put a downer on things but really they aren't. They are just being cautious for you. We would hate for you to have your dream broken at your next scan as 13 weeks is soooo early for gender guesses. Even the tech only said 80%. Why not say 100% if he was so certain? I don't think they should be allowed to guess unless 100% certain. I would love more than anything for you to get your girl. I have been following your story over the last year and have been amazed by your strength. I really hope you do hear girl and it's 100% next time. FX for you hun xxx


This is the thing, I know my doctor. He said my last three boys were boys at 12/11 weeks, but this is the thing- he doesn't just SAY that. He's very quiet, and he'll only say something if he's SURE, so when he says he's 80% sure, that's usually like 99% to every other doctor- he's VERY cautious. I've just woken up to in-gender FULL of people (including a tech!) telling me that my doctor's wrong... God this is unfair :( I've known before this child was even conceived that this was going to be a girl, though I didn't sway, and I've fought so hard to try to prove it and unfortunately I didn't get new pictures or videos from yesterday, but my doctor spent 45 MINUTES looking at NOTHING but in between the legs, so I'm pretty sure he's sure.....I just KNOW he wouldn't have said anything had he thought otherwise. I just hate this now , that I have to wait 5 weeks to "prove people wrong", i HATE HATE HATE this feeling, I just wish people could say "ah shit I stuffed that one up, congrats you must be so surprised!" they can't just leave it at that can they... :( Really really down now, I went to bed so excited and so happy and I woke up to all of those comments :(

[nuthinbutpink]

Can you just post a picture? I'm sure that is why people are being cautious. This is a huge deal for you obviously and usually we see tons of pics when we finally get our desired gender.

[Irishmom]

Hi Joannak. I can't make sense of the up date my brain is mush lately! I'm guessing you thought it was a boy and your doctor said 80% girl yesterday but some people (on IG) are not in agreement?
Either way don't let others get you down.You know your own doctor,you know what you saw with your own eyes and you know no matter what your baby will be loved and cherished.

Stay in your positive bubble hun and don't let anyone burst it, until you can prove them otherwise. Best of luck! Fingers crossed for you.xx:fingers:

[BeadinMom]

Wishing you all the best...and that this really is your little girl, JoannaK.
I couldn't even venture a guess on the sex...my doctor doesn't even discuss sex until at least 16 weeks. In fact, I didn't even know what a nub was until this site. (Still not sure what they are or what I'm looking at, actually. lol)

[nuthinbutpink]

And who cares what anyone else thinks?? If you saw girl then hopefully it is. Nothing to worry about.

[JoannaK]

Thanks girls- I really need this support. I've come down with a chest infection, I've been a WRECK by being swayed by people's opinions and honestly, I'm almost half glad that I didn't get photos and videos (he doesn't usually do it, though I know if I'd asked, I could have- so I am kicking myself a bit now), but I just know had I gotten some photos, I would have had people still trying to argue, and I'm just so so tired of it :( I've been going from one extreme to the other for three days straight- going between "no it's definitely a boy" to "no it's definitely a girl" and I physically cannot take anymore. I understand people wanting to make me cautious about it all (despite what I know about my doctor), but the thing is, I just said it over on in-gender, it seems like a lot of people over there AREN'T really too interested in me being cautious- some of them even outright said my specialist is WRONG about this gender. And I just think that's unnecessary and really painful, considering what I've gone through in the last few days... I'm so exhausted now

[Bumblebee]

woah I totally missed this thread, theres too many pages to read back now but from the last few pages if your tech says girl then its a girl! very many congratulations! :celebrate: I think I would have slightly leaned towards girl based on your first photo as the head is very round and nub is in line with spine. Don't worry about people putting you down either, its very easy to sit anonymously at a computer and judge, you and your tech know what you saw put your faith in him and not them. Wishing you all the best xx

[Irishmom]

Joannak stick with here and the support you get here, don't bother with IG. I honestly would not post there if my life depended on it.How many weeks are you?When do you have your next scan?

[JoannaK]

Joannak stick with here and the support you get here, don't bother with IG. I honestly would not post there if my life depended on it.How many weeks are you?When do you have your next scan?

Oh my lord, thankyou SOOOOOO much Irishmom, and Bumblebee- Irishmom, have you had issues on ingender too? I just find them to be so critical!! (And I apologise to anyone reading this who's also on ingender, because I know there are a lot of people on both sites), but I just thought that, these people KNEW how much agony I was in before this scan, and that I just wanted to know SOMETHING for sure. Of COURSE I would love and care for a boy, just as I would love and care for a girl. But it really feels like these people are trying to take my happiness away, I have explained to them (or tried to, they don't seem to listen) that I KNOW MY DOCTOR. he never EVER EVER EVER EVER says anything unless he's absolutely sure. And people on ingender said to me "oh he said he's only 80 % sure, that's not a lot"! Well, wouldn't you think he'd be a BAD DOCTOR if he came out and said "oh im 100% sure", because NOTHING is 100% sure. It's not 100% certain that I could walk out of my house and have a meteorite land on it!!!!! So .....80% sure from a specialist who NEVER makes a statement unless he's VERY VERY sure...... what would you take out of that!? I left there feeling SO CONFIDENT, and I woke up this morning and after reading on in-gender, that confidence is G-0-N-E :(

[3 men & a little lady]

Hun I think they do understand the agony you were in before the scan and that's why they are saying these things to you. Imagine the agony of having to paint over your pink room(i'm not being cruel by saying this but you said on IG if you have to paint over it you will). That's what they are trying to protect you from. Nobody is saying your tech is wrong, he probably isn't but at 13 weeks it's very difficult to know 100% as baby parts are so similar then. Just out of interest was it a private scan you went for? Could you go for another after 16 weeks or do you have to wait til 20 weeks? Personally I didn't believe girl until a week after she was born lol. I think from what they are saying every single one of them on IG are praying you have a girl. They are all rooting for you as I am. Hugs xxx

[JoannaK]

Thanks- again, I don't care having to paint over a wall, what's the big deal with that? And yes it was a private scan, and my obstetrician also came in and watched. I'm just tired of being so sure about something and having it constantly taken away, and then a little given back, then taken away etc. It is just exhausting, My next scan isn't until the 21st of June, I'll be 19.5 weeks then- surely THEN I'll be able to prove something :(

[3 men & a little lady]

Thanks- again, I don't care having to paint over a wall, what's the big deal with that?

No big deal hun......I would just find it hard that's all. :fingers: so tight for you. :heart:

[nuthinbutpink]

You went to a private scan place at 13 weeks? And your OB came with? And no pics?

[JoannaK]

It was part of my obstetricians practice- a tech was there, but it was my obstetrician's equipment and office

[JoannaK]

Should also note here too that my obstetrician is a fully trained sonographer as well

[nuthinbutpink]

I guess I don't understand what you went for...the video is the NT scan, correct? And then you went for a 13 week private scan? I assume you paid for that scan...was it for gender? Why wouldn't they give you picture if you paid for a private scan given they did a video before...I am sorry for the peppering of questions, I am just curious. We don't ever get videos where I live at the specialist or the OB so I think that it is great that some still provide it, I just don't understand going back 4 days later I guess.

[JoannaK]

Well I was initially just going for a regular check up with my OB- because yes the video is the proper NT scan, but then I asked him whether he could do a scan because I was sure it was a boy, and I just wanted him to confirm it. That's when I found out otherwise. And he doesn't usually give you photos, unless you ask him- and I was happy not to get photos (until 20 weeks) because I was happy and confident (at that time) that it was a girl. Sadly, after seeing all the doubts from everyone, I know I should have gotten photos- just would have thought people would have been happy for me and left it at that.

[JoannaK]

Joannak stick with here and the support you get here, don't bother with IG. I honestly would not post there if my life depended on it.How many weeks are you?When do you have your next scan?

Thankyou so much for your kind words, Irishmom, you have no idea how much it helps to feel like I'm not alone :)

[pinkin2011]

Hi Joannak , For some reason I thought you were like 20 weeks along!!!! I am due the 3rd or 4th of nov so we are not really that far apart! I am now woundering if i should ask my ob to look down there or not... Maybe just wait it out? 15 weeks 2 days could be tricky hey?
I hope you are feeling ok.... Can you book in for another scan at 16 weeks?

[JoannaK]

Hi Joannak , For some reason I thought you were like 20 weeks along!!!! I am due the 3rd or 4th of nov so we are not really that far apart! I am now woundering if i should ask my ob to look down there or not... Maybe just wait it out? 15 weeks 2 days could be tricky hey?
I hope you are feeling ok.... Can you book in for another scan at 16 weeks?

NO MORE SCANS!!!! I'm not having ANY more scans until 20 weeks- and yeah we are really close apart- I think you're a few days ahead of me though. My advice is this: ask your specialist on monday for a shot between the legs, ask HER opinion, and when you get it, DON'T TELL ANYONE ON THE INTERNET! lol. UNLESS you have proof that you KNOW noone is going to argue with you about it... so unless you get that perfect, clear shot, take your doctors opinion, they won't give out their opinion unless they know they're sure- they're held a LOT more accountable than anonymous people on the internet!! It's easy to make a quick quess on the net, whether it be the right or wrong guess, than a specialist giving you the wrong guess, I would take our opinion with a real grain of salt, and I would put a lot more trust in your doctor's opinion

[pinkin2011]

Oh I want a girl so bad, I didnt get much sleep last night just thinking and thinking and If my ob tells me my baby is a Boy I will be fine.. I am Just finding it tough ( as alot of us do) waiting to find out I just fell I NEED TO KNOW so I can move on with my life and my family and this pregnancy. I feel like I AM on hold right now , Not as in my daily duties or a mother or wife but just in my mind I am stuck... When or if I find out Boy yes I will be upset for that day but I know I will be ok he is mine and d/h baby we made him so he will be just gorgeous! Dont get me wrong oh how fantastic it would be to hear its a Girl but honestly I dont feel I am going to hear those words...
Getting off that tho I wounder if I had a 12 week dvd of my ultrasound would it be all boy... As I do have my top pic that you said looks like one of yours.. hmm I wish I had a clear nub... If you only had your pics on not the dvd would you of gotten all boy guesses based on your pics?

[JoannaK]

Honestly, I think had I just posted photos, nobody in their right mind would have said "oh im absolutely SURE that's a boy". because there were just NO GENDER CLUES in the photos- and most of the photos I have are freeze frame photos of the video, and they can be REALLY unreliable, because unless you're seeing a scan in real time, right there (ie the most ACCURATE method), there are so many things that can make it less accurate, you may not know that something that looks 100% like a nub could actually be something else, unless you see it moving in the flesh at the time of the scan

[JoannaK]

And from my experience, I really regret posting my photos, until I knew for sure that this IS a girl (contrary to popular belief, STILL!) And I HATE HATE HATE the feeling of regret, in any aspect of life- it just eats away at you, and you KNOW deep down it's just not worth it, yet you just can't stop feeling it, that's the awfulness of regret, and I think that's often overlooked on "particular" forums *cough*. I think people's feelings really do need to be considered, I'm not saying lie to the person to make them feel better, but I think ALL the evidence really does need to be taken into consideration. And sometimes, "evidence" may not be something we can see (like a picture for instance), but TRUST in a person's opinion (I told people I have 100% faith in my doctor's thoughts that this is a girl, but that seemed to fall on deaf ears), so I think people need to realise that there is MUCH more to just a clear "nub shot" or video, all the evidence needs to be considered, otherwise you're being biased

[BeadinMom]

For what it's worth, I don't think anyone wants to intentionally hurt you or deflate you, I think they're just concerned that you are getting your hopes up - only to be devastated later. Nobody wants that. Everybody here understands what you're going through. I truly believe that with all my heart. I truly and completely hope, wish, and pray that every lady here gets their desired gender. I think that's what this website is all about and why it was created to begin with.

Fingers crossed and saying prayers you get your little girl. ♥

[Princess of Pink]

I have to agree with the previous poster!! Especially when you are talking about buying clothes and decorating a nursery. I just wouldn't go that far after a 13 week u/s, but thats me!! I would want to see a penis or vagina with my own two eyes on an u/s that I could see clearly before I got my hopes up and started buying/decorating. Especially after having so many of the one gender and they are telling you that you finally have an opposite. I have seen too many boy/girl's turn into girl/boy's from early u/s's with super experienced techs where they were told 80-99% sure!!

I hope this is your girl and you see a hamburger at 20 weeks...I just wouldn't start painting yet.

[girlmom]

i agree too. nobody wants you to be hurt or sad or angry or anything. we just don't want to see you crushed later. im not a tech so i can't say. i can only say none of my girl shots looked like yours, but that means nothing. i really hope you hear girl at 20 weeks but at 13 weeks i would take it with a grain of salt. its so early hun. just enjoy your pregnancy for now.

[pinkin2011]

Would you ladies mind please having a guess on my pics?? I dont mean to take over this thread but I cant seem to get many guesses on mine! I would appreciate it so much

[Princess of Pink]

Sure hon...can you link me to em...don't have time to search at work.

[pinkin2011]

ha ha Will try I am not up with all that! I will bump it and should come up in the posts under 12week1day pics ! thanks heaps

[atomic sagebrush]

Joanna, I totally see where you're coming from and it's why I was really wanting to wait until I had a good level of confidence to even mention pg at all!!

[Waiting4Daisy]

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[JoannaK]

Thank you waiting4daisy. I haven't been on InGender in 4 days and I'm shocked and disgusted to be told that it's apparently it's still active. I truly thought people with children would be too busy to be harassing complete strangers, I'm talking about one person in particular, most people will know who I'm referring to. I'm actually having an advanced scan in two weeks, purely because of the unnecessary pain certain people have put me through. I'm still undecided whether I will post the confirmation of my girl on InGender, at this point I don't see the need, as apparently I don't even need to be talking on InGender for people ( or a particular person) to still be attacking me. Very disappointing. The thread clearly got out of control, one person in particular just can't seem to let it go, and I don't really want to hang around people like that ( this is very different to the people in the beginning that do just want the best for me and want me to be cautious etc etc etc). I left when someone was just being unnecessarily out of line

[PeonyPrincess]

Oh JoannaK, I am feeling relieved right now that my tech wouldn't give me any nub shots. What a headache. Rest up and take care of yourself and your precious baby!

[JoannaK]

I will certainly do that and yes, I've learned some very valuable lessons regarding nub shots lol. Im so glad you're relieved that you didn't get any shots because I'm guessing it must be a much more pleasant feeling than constant confusion and anxiousness!

[JoannaK]

The most important thing I've learned, after leaving that thread on ingender, was I've come to appreciate my family and children so much more, to be surrounded by good, kind people, is worth infinitely more than some nasty comments from a person whom I'll never meet in this world. And the love and appreciation I have for my unborn child, that I will be passing down my kindness and compassion for others to him/her, and my other sons. It is so much easier to be happy than to hold grudges (for me anyway). I hope my children will be the same

[JoannaK]

I think it is incredibly sad that I'm getting feedback from ingender, telling me I should be grateful that I'm even PREGNANT, when one lady was saying she has been trying since 2007 to have #2. This is what I've learned from going through the loss of a child. It is hell, it rips you apart. But it DOES NOT make you a super human, or a non-human, you come out the end of it STILL human, and being human means you still hope for a certain gender, and i don't feel bad for feeling that way! Because.... I AM HUMAN for gods sake. People need to give everyone a break, this is a JOKE!!!!

The fact that I"m no longer apart of that thread, and yet people STILL need to offer me this "well intentioned" advice is beyond crazy. I accepted the opinions of the people who guessed this baby was a boy, good for them, i have NO issue WHATSOEVER with that, so there's NO obsession there. What I'm "obsessed" with is the UNNECESSARY, hurtful comments I've received. I think people have taken this so much further than it should have gone, and that thread should have been locked... And it's very sad because instead of future people learning from this experience, it is now going to be filled with hurt feelings and inconsiderate remarks (please note, ONCE AGAIN, I do NOT include "guessing a boy" in such inconsiderate remarks). what hurt me most, is after I updated everyone and told them that my obstetrician with 80 % certainty told me this is a girl, that I had one woman on ingender tell me that "she hopes I don't grieve too much WHEN I have to repaint your wall".

I found that very hurtful, considering all she had to say was "if you have to repaint your wall". To be so self-righteous as to say WHEN to repaint your wall, how nobody can consider THAT unnecessary, I don't know. And maybe I am caring too much about that comment, but I just hope that woman realises that what she said was particularly hurtful, and this is a parent of children, that is what scares me most- these are people that are far down on the list of people that should be being so petty and childish.

That thread should have been left at "I think this is a boy joanna", to which I would say "thankyou very much, i think you're wrong, so I'll show you in 4 weeks". and that should have been that. But apparently not.

[TTC5]

Oh are they still going on about this to you? :(

[BeadinMom]

I wouldn't even go back to that site. There's no point. The only thing I'd go back to do is delete my pictures, if I were you.

[Butterfly Spirit]

Oh are they still going on about this to you? :(

They won't shut up!

[JoannaK]

My biggest issue, besides the few things that some of them are saying, is the fact that they are STILL keeping that thread active,when I made it very clear to them that I wasn't returning to that thread. It's the fact that they just can't leave me alone

[Butterfly Spirit]

Yes it's VERY inappropriate that when a moderator asks everyone to stop, they just keep going. It only reflects on the type of ladies on that site. They aren't worth you, or anyone getting so worked up to that level of stress. So I do hope at this point that the mod locks it.

[TTC5]

I just saw the latest post and had to reply. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Seriously J, don't let them get to you.... you have us after all we luffs you :D

[Butterfly Spirit]

I just saw the latest post and had to reply. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Seriously J, don't let them get to you.... you have us after all we luffs you :D

GREAT post! :)

[JoannaK]

Thank you do much for your support ladies. And I don't say that because you tell me what you think I want to hear, I appreciate you because you pick me up when I'm down, something that they have not done, for whatever reason. What did you say TTc 5? Don't show me what they said though

[TTC5]

You know what your ob said and he said girl, that is all you need to know :)

And if, just if, she turns in to a he, well I am sure we can help you deal with that *if* it happens.

[TTC5]

I will copy and paste my reply for you.

[JoannaK]

That is ALL I needed to hear from those people... And I bet, I hope, it was easy for you to say that, that IF he's a he, you will help me and we'll all be happy together. That's what I can't figure out. Why they couldn't just say that.... *shakes head* but thank you so so much xxo

[TTC5]

You were told by your OB your baby is a girl so no need for people to put their doubt in, wether they believe your dr or not! Telling you, to be cautious is only going to make you confused and doubtful. Why not just end it with "Congratulations" and keep your comments to yourself (unless of course, you asked them what they thought ;) )

[TTC5]

Someone was going on about how you should be greatful and how they cant believe how obsessed one can be over gender and yadda yadda yadda.

My reply:

I think she knows more than most the importance of a healthy baby, after losing a baby not too long ago herself...

Gender Disappointment is very REAL and anyone who has been lucky enough to never experience this, has no idea what it is like.

Women unable to have children has nothing to do with wanting a particular child so badly, it does not make you a bad person for wanting a certain gender so dearly.

[TTC5]

My god she would hate to have walked a day in my shoes since my 12 week scan LOL.... I was nubsessed and crazy haha ask any lady here... they all told me my baby was without a doubt a boy, and I STILL questioned and scrutinised every one of my scan pics lol

[JoannaK]

You've hit the nail on the head TTc, until you're in the same situation, the same shoes, the same experience, you can't POSSIBLY know how it feels. So these people really shouldn't be dishing out advice on how a person should live. I can't imagine what it must be like for that woman, trying to conceive since 2007, that must be awful. But I also know how it feels to see people walking in and out of hospital with healthy babies, and knowing I'll never be bringing mine home. But the thing is, of course I appreciate that this baby is healthy, I'd be a horrible person if I didn't. But the thing is, I've come out the end of it realizing that's it's ok to have these hopes (for a certain gender for example), because the one positive that came out of that hell was my ability to be able to at least try to give myself a break once in awhile, to be ok with hoping for a girl, BECAUSE I know I'm a good mother and I'm going to love and appreciate this baby more than any word I could describe. What I DON'T do is preach to people about what they should or shouldn't do, when I've never been in their situation before

[JoannaK]

ttc 5, I've been meaning to ask, are you feeling better?

[TTC5]

No cramps or runs for a few hours now. Just had dinner so see how I go wish me luck. Meant to be going back to work tomorrow!

[JoannaK]

Those gastro bugs are awful, we had a big outbreak of them up here a few months ago. I hope your girls have been looking after you!

[TTC5]

You've hit the nail on the head TTc, until you're in the same situation, the same shoes, the same experience, you can't POSSIBLY know how it feels. So these people really shouldn't be dishing out advice on how a person should live. I can't imagine what it must be like for that woman, trying to conceive since 2007, that must be awful. But I also know how it feels to see people walking in and out of hospital with healthy babies, and knowing I'll never be bringing mine home. But the thing is, of course I appreciate that this baby is healthy, I'd be a horrible person if I didn't. But the thing is, I've come out the end of it realizing that's it's ok to have these hopes (for a certain gender for example), because the one positive that came out of that hell was my ability to be able to at least try to give myself a break once in awhile, to be ok with hoping for a girl, BECAUSE I know I'm a good mother and I'm going to love and appreciate this baby more than any word I could describe. What I DON'T do is preach to people about what they should or shouldn't do, when I've never been in their situation before

It is a shame that society has moulded us in to thinking that GD should not be spoken of, or even accepted! That any mother or father suffering GD is a horrible person, ungreatful etc.

[JoannaK]

The common factor is always people who tend to be close-minded and a little selfish, because they haven't been in someone's shoes, they feel they have a right to make a statement about what's right and wrong, and THAT is wrong. At the very end of the day, it should be about being the best parents we can be, not criticising others for feeling a way that we can't possibly know because chances are, we haven't felt it! What upsets me, is that it seems to take something tragic to really turn ourselves around, I wish the world didn't work that way, but that seems to be how it goes. Something I read the other day too, no idea which website or forum it was on (I think I was looking for how accurate a gender prediction is at 16 weeks, because i'll be 16+4 at my next scan), and this lady said that she really needed to know the gender because it's a big factor in how she bonds with her unborn children, and something really clicked in me when I read that. That REALLY makes sense, to me personally-some people may find it easier to bond even if they didn't know the gender, but for me, I know it would really help

[nuthinbutpink]

Do unto others as you'd have done unto you.

I don't go on there but seems to me if you want to continue to fuel the fire you can keep going back. If you know you are right, why does it bother you so?

I wouldn't feel good about myself if I threw a comment like that out there.

[3 men & a little lady]

the lady who told me I should be grateful I could even get pregnant because I lost my last baby

Firstly she never said that......she never mentioned the baby you lost. What she did say was be grateful to be pregnant and think of all the woman out there who can't get pregnant at all. That is totally different to the way you have posted it. And to think that you could actually say something like that or think of saying it is just cruel. I know what it's like to be ttc for a long time. It's heartbreaking especially when everyone around you falls pregnant so easily and you don't know why it's not happening for you or what you can do to fix it. It is a totally different to not knowing the sex of a baby. At least in 2 weeks you will know 100% girl/boy. As I said before I followed your story over the last year and really wanted you to have a girl and was so delighted when I heard you got your BFP especially knowing what you've been through but I don't understand how you could even contemplate posting that. :sad:

[nuthinbutpink]

And it is very malicious. Very.

[Flava]

What's going on here? I thought this is a u/s thread? So I don't know the story but good think Joanna you didn't said that to anyone...

[BeadinMom]

but wouldn't it be the "same thing" if I said to her "well it's a good thing you can't get pregnant because if you did, you could be having constant miscarriages with each successful month" ? Isn't that roughly the same thing?

No. It really is NOT the same thing.

[jwoww]

I have an interesting thought I wanted to pose- I just brought it up with Butterfly Spirit, I'm a bit tentative to post it publicly, but I'm sure you ladies know I'm not meaning it to be malicious at all, not at all. But I'm just wondering, the lady who told me I should be grateful I could even get pregnant because I lost my last baby, we all know the story. The thing is, (and of COURSE i absolutely WON'T do this), but wouldn't it be the "same thing" if I said to her "well it's a good thing you can't get pregnant because if you did, you could be having constant miscarriages with each successful month" ? Isn't that roughly the same thing? And imagine how she would feel if someone said that to her.... And again, I couldn't do it, no matter how badly somebody hurts me, I couldn't hurt them like that. Just a thought to muse over....?

Wow just wow so disappointed with this statement

[Waiting4Daisy]

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[Irishmom]

I have an interesting thought I wanted to pose- I just brought it up with Butterfly Spirit, I'm a bit tentative to post it publicly, but I'm sure you ladies know I'm not meaning it to be malicious at all, not at all. But I'm just wondering, the lady who told me I should be grateful I could even get pregnant because I lost my last baby, we all know the story. The thing is, (and of COURSE i absolutely WON'T do this), but wouldn't it be the "same thing" if I said to her "well it's a good thing you can't get pregnant because if you did, you could be having constant miscarriages with each successful month" ? Isn't that roughly the same thing? And imagine how she would feel if someone said that to her.... And again, I couldn't do it, no matter how badly somebody hurts me, I couldn't hurt them like that. Just a thought to muse over....?

I have to say I supported and felt for you the other day when I replied. But after that statement you have lost all respect from me. I can't believe another mother, woman or human could possibly compare both. And that is coming from
Someone who unfortunately suffered both numerous miscarriages AND GD!!!!

You got 80% from your doctor so leave it be ,you are doing no one any favours thinking or saying statements like that!!!

Log off and enjoy your good news and let it go!!

[nuthinbutpink]

I don't know the whole backstory nor all the comments made elsewhere but I do know we all have moments of frustration and when you don't feel supported it can feel like people are against you when they are really just skeptical because of their own baggage.

There are many green eyed monsters on the Internet and there are people who are genuinely happy for us when things work out.

Sure everyone on this thread has had a moment in their life where they did not rise above so let's not get too down on someone who may simply be reading into others posts the wrong way. You cannot tell tone through the Internet and that can lead to misunderstandings.

[girlmom]

gotta add my 2 cents here. if you know its a girl and you want everyone to back off why do you keep posting and stressing and freaking out about every little comment? everyone said enjoy your pregnancy and let it go. so let it go. plus i didn't get the whole other story but you can't compair someone who can't even carry a child to boo hoo i didn't get a girl.

[nuthinbutpink]

gotta add my 2 cents here. if you know its a girl and you want everyone to back off why do you keep posting and stressing and freaking out about every little comment? everyone said enjoy your pregnancy and let it go. so let it go. plus i didn't get the whole other story but you can't compair someone who can't even carry a child to boo hoo i didn't get a girl.

Speaking for J, because it was 80% not 100% is the reason she is freaking out, I'm sure. Everyone knows nothing is 100% until birth and I'm sure J is aware of that even if it wasn't expressed.

While many of us may agree that you should not make a comparison to an infertile woman, GD is difficult and can almost feel like a death has occurred even though logically, we know we should be happy with what we are given.

We have people openly talking about aborting the next child if thie next isn't the "right" gender so there are many levels to GD and not all are understood nor tolerated by all.

[JoannaK]

Ok ladies clear this up right now. I've deleted my comment and I truly apologise for hurting people's feelings. I thought my comparison was valid, apparently nobody agrees, but that's ok. What I did make clear was that I would never ever say it to that lady directly. What I wanted to make clear, and maybe I didn't make it clear, was that what that lady said to me REALLY hurt me. Most of you may not understand why, but it really hurt. Because she was implying that because I care about what gender this child is, that I don't appreciate this baby as much as someone else who doesn't mind about the gender. And THAT is unfair, and THAT is cruel, and I hope people here can acknowledge that.

[nuthinbutpink]

I think the vast majority of us understand your last point and those that don't should probably not hang out on a gender website!

[JoannaK]

What I meant by the "same thing" ( because clearly it's literally not the same thing, so that was a very poor choice of words on my part, but Ive been extremely upset lately) but what I was trying to say is that a statement like that results in hurt feelings, and it's something that didn't have to be said (both her and my statements ). That is what I mean by "the same thing". But again, I understand if nobody understands, and I apologise if people are still hurt. I removed my post, I don't know what else I can possibly do.

[nuthinbutpink]

What I meant by the "same thing" ( because clearly it's literally not the same thing, so that was a very poor choice of words on my part, but Ive been extremely upset lately) but what I was trying to say is that a statement like that results in hurt feelings, and it's something that didn't have to he said (both her and my statements ). That is what I mean by "the same thing". But again, I understand if nobody understands, and I apologise if people are still hurt. I removed my post, I don't know what else I can possibly do.

Let's just shake our etch-a-sketch and move on! I look forward to your update and it will give hope to those that really saw a boy nub that there is always a chance that the baby is a girl regardless of what is between the legs so early!

[JoannaK]

Thank you. I have a scan in 15 days, not sure if I will update then or wait to share the news until the 20th scan. Going horse riding with my son now, couldn't have come at a better time. I'm sorry again for hurting people

[Irishmom]

I think the vast majority of us understand your last point and those that don't should probably not hang out on a gender website!

I'm sorry but just because i dont agree with what was said does not mean i have no right to be here.As i said i suffered GD so i hand on heart know what it feels like but having also lost 4 babies and ttc for a year to finally get a bfp ,i also know the other side to the coin. I dont use this site to pick battles and i have no intention to do so now, but i have every right to be here whether i agree or not agree with the statement.It was the comparison i was not agreeing with not the fact that Joannek is upset and hurt by comments.

Joannek as i said maybe it's time now to let it lie and enjoy your little girl. I just think a statement like that is no better to what you have said hurt you. I wish you well and hope you get 100% at your next scan.xx

[JoannaK]

Thank you irish mom. I know nobody knows because they aren't here but I'm truly sorry, I have been throwing up and shaking for days, and after reading how much I hurt people by my comment, I'm not coping very well. I am bawling and I'm trying to be strong for my boys because they can't understand why I'm so upset , but I am so so upset that I've hurt people, I feel sick. I've taken my comment away and as I said, I don't know what else I can do. If you want me to run in front of a truck I'll gladly do it because I'm struggling here. I hate disappointing people, I hate hurting people. But I've been hurt too. I can't imagine what it feels like to struggle with conceiving and have the pain of losing children. Nobody should experience one of those hells let alone two. You have every right to be here, I'm just going to stick with kind comments from now on, regardless of how hurt I am by others comments.

[nuthinbutpink]

I'm sorry but just because i dont agree with what was said does not mean i have no right to be here.As i said i suffered GD so i hand on heart know what it feels like but having also lost 4 babies and ttc for a year to finally get a bfp ,i also know the other side to the coin. I dont use this site to pick battles and i have no intention to do so now, but i have every right to be here whether i agree or not agree with the statement.It was the comparison i was not agreeing with not the fact that Joannek is upset and hurt by comments.

Joannek as i said maybe it's time now to let it lie and enjoy your little girl. I just think a statement like that is no better to what you have said hurt you. I wish you well and hope you get 100% at your next scan.xx

I wasn't speaking of you! The other lady on the other site was whom I was referring to! Sorry for the confusion.

[JoannaK]

This whole Internet thing is not working lol. Too many misunderstandings and confusion

[TTC5]

I'm sorry but just because i dont agree with what was said does not mean i have no right to be here.As i said i suffered GD so i hand on heart know what it feels like but having also lost 4 babies and ttc for a year to finally get a bfp ,i also know the other side to the coin. I dont use this site to pick battles and i have no intention to do so now, but i have every right to be here whether i agree or not agree with the statement.It was the comparison i was not agreeing with not the fact that Joannek is upset and hurt by comments.

Joannek as i said maybe it's time now to let it lie and enjoy your little girl. I just think a statement like that is no better to what you have said hurt you. I wish you well and hope you get 100% at your next scan.xx

Oh yes you have every right to be here xxxxxxx

[TTC5]

Thank you irish mom. I know nobody knows because they aren't here but I'm truly sorry, I have been throwing up and shaking for days, and after reading how much I hurt people by my comment, I'm not coping very well. I am bawling and I'm trying to be strong for my boys because they can't understand why I'm so upset , but I am so so upset that I've hurt people, I feel sick. I've taken my comment away and as I said, I don't know what else I can do. If you want me to run in front of a truck I'll gladly do it because I'm struggling here. I hate disappointing people, I hate hurting people. But I've been hurt too. I can't imagine what it feels like to struggle with conceiving and have the pain of losing children. Nobody should experience one of those hells let alone two. You have every right to be here, I'm just going to stick with kind comments from now on, regardless of how hurt I am by others comments.

Turn the PC off for a few days or a week and have some time away to clear your mind xxxxxxxx You need to be calm for your little GIRL :D

[TTC5]

gotta add my 2 cents here. if you know its a girl and you want everyone to back off why do you keep posting and stressing and freaking out about every little comment? everyone said enjoy your pregnancy and let it go. so let it go. plus i didn't get the whole other story but you can't compair someone who can't even carry a child to boo hoo i didn't get a girl.

I think what has happened is she has shared her news and a few people replied with some rather uncalled for replies (which has deep down affected J and put that doubt in her mind now).

[TTC5]

J, I am going to logg off from this thread now xx

[Indira]

Joanna, I don´t know if you already did, but wouldn´t you like to join a due date buddies-thread on here?
That way we can continue to chat without focusing on the negative stuff:)

[Waiting4Daisy]

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[Princess of Pink]

While many of us may agree that you should not make a comparison to an infertile woman, GD is difficult and can almost feel like a death has occurred even though logically, we know we should be happy with what we are given.

We have people openly talking about aborting the next child if thie next isn't the "right" gender so there are many levels to GD and not all are understood nor tolerated by all.

I have to agree with you here 110%. GD can be bloody bad and feel exactly like a death!! You know the night I found out about DD#5 being a girl...in the dark of the middle of the night when I could finally sob without feeling guilty....I think it felt equally as bad as my pregnancy losses. My chest physical ached like my heart was broken, I couldn't breathe, I was lost and wished I could take it all back and not be pregnant anymore. I felt like my son that I had dreamed of and planned for my whole life had died. I think some comparison can be made...both women have a dream, a longing deep in their hearts to experience something, you throw so many years and tries again and again into something...something you really have no control over...you see people all over the world getting exactly what you want and it always seems just out of your reach!! It hurts and makes you sad and your life is consumed with what you just can't have.

I don't think all women understand it even those with one gender. I believe it gets worse and worse with each child...I don't believe someone on child 2, 3, 4 understand what it feels like to have baby 5, 6 and 7 of the same gender. I too have experienced losses (5 of them including one set of twins)....and no that didn't make the GD any better or make me thankful that I could just have a baby.

[3 men & a little lady]

Blaming GD for everything shouldn't be the case here as she is so adamant this is her girl. Why would she have GD with this pregnancy if she is so certain this is her girl? What she is saying goes beyond GD. I think she is suffering from depression or maybe even something entirely different. She needs to seek medical help if she is thinking about throwing herself under a truck because a comment she made got a bad reaction......and it's not good for her kids to be seeing her like this either. She has been crying for days according to herself which I can only assume is from what was written on IG. Believe it or not they majority of people there were only trying to protect you. She's not doing herself or her kids any good. I think she needs a break from all this. Wishing you the best with your scan in 15 days Joanna and I truely do hope you get your girl xxx

[JoannaK]

Joanna, I don´t know if you already did, but wouldn´t you like to join a due date buddies-thread on here?
That way we can continue to chat without focusing on the negative stuff:)

Thankyou so much for your offer Indira, but I think I'll pass. I've only just gotten.home from hospital after beinh there overnight, I'm leaving forums now as they're clearly not good for my health and I need to think about what's best for my children, as Little xmen 3 & little princess indicated, as they are the ones who matter most.

[pinkin2011]

I hope you are ok Joannak??
Sounds horrible being like that you poor thing! And being in hospital??
Your scan is not far away now so thats something to really look forward to!!

[JoannaK]

Thanks pinkin., I'm on bedrest at the moment but I can't stay online otherwise DH will get cranky with me. There's just one more thing I wanted to get cleared up, as I know first hand how dangerous it is to make assumptions and share those assumptions on an online medium.. Little Men. X3 and 1 princess, I want to make clear that I'm not upset because of IG. Did it hurt me? Some of the comments, absolutely. But the reason I've been so upset, and am so upset, is because I've disappointed people on this thread. I thought I have been really kind to people here and in return, I had their support.. But as a result of one comment I made, I lost all that respect.. People who told me previously that they supported me, and then came out and told me they've lost all respect for me, that really hurts. Do I deserve it?. Most definitely. Does it make me undeserving to be really devastated by it? I don't believe so. I am a good person. There are very few things I like about myself but if there is one thing I can credit myself for is that I care SO MUCH. It is the reason why I became a mother, and it is the reason why my sons, hopefully, love me. My family and close friends believe I care too much, and that is the reason why I've been so upset, because I have let people down. And that is a pain I will harbour for years. I can't just "not care", if I could do that, I'd be a different person and my life would have taken vastly different paths. But if my main "problem" is that I care too much about not hurting or disappointing people, I'm fairly confident there are worse qualities to have in this world. That is all I wanted to say, because I don't think it's fair to make such a critical assumption on somebody's mental wellbeing. Pinkin, 14 days to go, can't wait to update you! And I can't wait to hear your results xxo

[sweetsister]

I think sometimes words can be misinterpreted on the internet and this goes for both sides:) I really think both sides have the best intentions at heart and this is just a big mess now,what is most important is Joanna,and her baby,i hope you get better and try not to let it get to you ,every tomorrow has two handles,we can take hold of it with the handle of anxiety or the handle of faith.:hug2: to everyone and please no more:fight:

[Irishmom]

Joannek I'm so sorry if my post upset you it really wasn't my intention. I'm just a nervous wreck myself at the minute waiting to confirm everything is ok with this pregnancy and your comment upset me. I should have ignored it.

Please put it behind you and take care of yourself and your baby. No hard feelings at all, we all say silly things and regret them. Let's blame the hormones and move on.;)

[JoannaK]

That's ok irish mom, I'm keeping you in my thoughts, I hope you feel some relief very soon xxo

[cj's kids]

Hi am new to this forum but Joanna I hope things are going well and that you found out conclusively what you're having! Update when you can - we all support you!

[PrincessX3]

Hi Joanna. I witnessed the thread on ingender and thought it was horrible. Why people say things like that rather than just being happy for you is beyond me. I truly hope you are doing well. All the best :)

[CherryBlossom]

Does anyone know what the gender scan came out to be? Anyone friends with her? Really hopin she got her bundle of pink =) xoxox

[TTC5]

She knows what bubby is :)

[deaks66]

oh i really hope she got what she was hoping for!

[cj's kids]

Hopefully she'll update everyone!

[Babyg2012]

I have been thinking of you and I feel that you are a very strong woman. I hope you update us on how you and baby are doing. For you do still have many followers who are here for you.

[mommymachine]

I really don't care about gender at this point...I've been following Joanna's story since her 12 week nub with the baby that sadly died last November. I just want this baby to be healthy and I really wish she would update us on that. She has been through so much. I really hope she has a healthy little baby in there.

[Typical_Jules]

In really don't think she will be back to update

[fivebabies]

Does anyone know? I hope all is well with the baby and that she is feeling ok! :(

[our3sons]

Does anyone know? I hope all is well with the baby and that she is feeling ok! :(

a few posts down, TTC5 says joanna knows the gender, but I'm not sure TTC5 knows what joanna is having, and if she does, I doubt she will say. I hope things are going okay for her, to! I'm expecting my 4th boy and wouldn't mind chatting with you, Joanna, if you are expecting a little boy also! They truly are a blessing and I'm actually very excited for little boy #4. :)