ColdWater, can you take a look please?

[JoannaK]

Hi, Of course I'd like to know boy or girl, BUT in particular, I'd like to know whether what I'm pointing to in this pic IS a nub, the bub was playing around a LOT, the legs were almost constantly crossed, and hips twisted, and the cord was wrapped around the shins and thighs , so this is a very tricky one..

[JoannaK]

Any other guesses from anyone would be appreciated, if they don't think it's the nub, let me know- and skull theory guesses would be great too

[Cinss]

I think that is the nub, id say boy.

[Gentle]

Only a newbie guesser (so no idea if it really is the nub!) and Cinss has thrown me completely! Looking at the angle, I'd have thought girl. Where am I going wrong Cinss?

[pinkin2011]

I am going to guess GIRL but it is a very hard pic to guess on...

[JoannaK]

Gentle, you are NOT going wrong! LOL. I know this is boy#5 for me, I'm just holding on to one more day of thinking it could actually be a girl (I have another scan tomorrow). I've been very down and fear GD is just around the corner :(

[pinkin2011]

JoannaK What actually makes you think its a boy? I am not so sure it is.

Would you mind please having a look at my 12w1day pics.. I feel mine may be a boy .. But I dont have a clear nub shot

[Butterfly Spirit]

That might be the cord! Uhm, I'm just not too sure to even guess yet.

[JoannaK]

I know it's a boy because I've had about 15 people over on in-gender tell me it's a boy :( Plus, a woman on in-gender paused a section of my scan video and showed me, at first I didn't believe her, but I saw another boy scan on youtube and the sonographer paused it and pointed right at something that was in the same position as mine, same colour, same shape, same size etc- so I'm pretty sure this is no girl

[JoannaK]

That might be the cord! Uhm, I'm just not too sure to even guess yet.

Yeah I really hope it is the cord, because the one thing I do know for sure was that the cord was wrapped around at least one leg for most of the scan, so it was going up right between the legs and to the belly. But again, it looks exactly the same as another scan I saw on youtube, and that was a boy :(

[JoannaK]

JoannaK What actually makes you think its a boy? I am not so sure it is.

Would you mind please having a look at my 12w1day pics.. I feel mine may be a boy .. But I dont have a clear nub shot

pinkin2011, I can't find a way to enlarge your scan?

[pinkin2011]

Dont loose hope yet!! Some of our scans are so hard to read! esp when our babies move alot!

[pinkin2011]

In the ultrasound section I have some pics ,I will write a post and should come up

[JoannaK]

Sorry found them. Will post now. Coldwater I'd really like it if you could take a look at my scan, and I'd appreciate any other guesses, including skull theory

[JoannaK]

I'm just going to add another photo, I know potty shots at this stage are really unreliable, but we got a second long shot where the legs are competely open and you can see through completely- the baby's head is on the left, he/she is laying sideways facing the wand- and the legs are hanging down over the right, so the thing in the middle is between the legs. .Any thoughts? I just thought if it was 100% boy wouldn't you see something in between?

[JoannaK]

And a close up.... I've also flipped the photo so it looks like bub is sitting up, head up top, zoomed in on the two legs

[pinkin2011]

I know how you are feeling!! its just HORRIBLE!

[pinkin2011]

To me I would think If it was a boy You would see something! But I am no expert! You have hope there !! I cant wait to hear !! Did you sway?
If you end up having a boy Mine must be a boy too!

[JoannaK]

That's definitely my thinking! My "revelations" since going down the path of insanity are these: Girls seem to be much easier to "see" in scans (which is funny, you'd think it'd be the other way around, because boys have clear "bits" you can see), but boys seem to be the ones that twist and turn and carry on, whereas girls just sit there and that makes it a lot easier to see. It will be very interesting to see if one of us gets girl and the other boy, or both boys, or , SOMEHOW, both girls!!! (what are the odds!!!!!). No real "swaying" done, purely because PREVIOUSLY I had thought that it just didn't do anything, however I'm seriously rethinking that decision now! However, I will say, had we done a serious sway and still ended up with a boy, I think I'd struggle a lot more, than if I do find out it's a boy tomorrow after no swaying- if that makes sense? I'll keep you updated as soon as I know.... I would just KILL for ColdWater to look at this "between legs" photo, because it might be possible to not see something and it's still a boy, I just want to know for sure you know? If it's a boy, it's a boy, but there's so much I want to understand, hence my desperate cries for a TECH!!! lol

[pinkin2011]

Do you have other pics? Or did the girls from ingender guess off the pics your showing here?

[JoannaK]

I only just uploaded the pics of between the legs onto in-gender now. Before that, they all mostly guessed off the video, and from there, I didn't bother to upload the between legs photos until now. The video is here if you wanted to take a look? An experienced person said at 7:24, there is a clear boy nub, which, sadly, looks exactly the same as another video I saw of a boy, where the tech paused it and pointed straight at this nub looking thing... baby2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toPg7UdWhEY&feature=youtu.be)

[JoannaK]

And here's the thing- if you see at 7:24, it does look REALLY obvious that it's a boy, you can spot it a mile away (IF it's the nub, which I'm about 80% sure it is), but why can you CLEARLY not see anything between the legs???

[JoannaK]

And one more thing, the lady doing the scan was very experienced, I like her a lot- I didn't directly ask her to tell us the gender, but I think she knew we wanted to know. And at 7:24, if that is the nub, that's pretty bloody obvious, so why didn't she say anything???

[pinkin2011]

I will have a look at it now.. Do you have the pic handy the one that looks the same as my top one?

[pinkin2011]

Your baby had its legs spread apart and I couldnt see anything there between them?? I did see a nub later on but It didnt look like it was really angled! I really dont know! I so hope you hear girl tomorrow!!

[JoannaK]

Here it is- not exactly the same but it's in the same position as yours, yours is a lot brighter but I think that's because mine is a crappy photo and not very bright- I think, THINK , both of these things in our pics are the cords, but you can see how both our bubs have their legs all twisted up?

[JoannaK]

Your baby had its legs spread apart and I couldnt see anything there between them?? I did see a nub later on but It didnt look like it was really angled! I really dont know! I so hope you hear girl tomorrow!!

What do you think at 7:24? Would you say that's a nub pointing up? Because it just seems SO BIG, particularly when you can't see ANYTHING at all between the legs early on....

[pinkin2011]

YES I see it! hmmm I am so curious and so worried. But it is what it is.. I am pretty bummed..
All of that on your pic could be the cord!

[pinkin2011]

I think that is cord!
I could not see a thing between the legs when they were apart!

[JoannaK]

Agreed. But whyyyyyy does that possible cord look SO MUCH like the other person's video on youtube of her boy :( :( :(. And again, if it was so obvious, why didn't the tech point it out????!! God this is so hard. I keep going in waves of thinking "ok, another boy, that's good, hes healthy, thats good", to the extreme opposite of "maybe this ISN'T a boy, maybe it might just be possible for me to carry girls...."... Talk about a rollercoaster ride :(

[pinkin2011]

I have no idea!!! You still have a 50 / 50 chance in my eyes.. I hope thats a girl!!

[pinkin2011]

I see my ob on monday I will be 15 weeks and 2 days.. She will prob do a quick ultrasound and I am woundering if i ask her would she look between the legs.. Not sure if I should ask

[JoannaK]

WHAT!!!!! I'd be telling that person you won't be leaving until you know!!!! Holla woman!! hehe

[pinkin2011]

Ha ha , But could I even ask her?? She may not want to??

[pinkin2011]

What time is your scan tomorrow?

[JoannaK]

What time is your scan tomorrow?

2 pm tomorrow, Aussie time. And don't be shy about asking, that's their job- and if possible, ask for as many pics as possible. Send some prayers my way!!

[pinkin2011]

Oh I will and I am!!
I am in melb.. So I will be thinking of you at 2 pm!
I have been having a bit of low pain so I hope she does do a scan, she has one in her room next to the bed so you would think she would do one hey?

[JoannaK]

Oh cool, I'm in Brissie. Yeah my ob has a machine in a room next to his office, and that's where he does all his scans, and if you're having pain, she'll definitely do one- if against all odds, she doesn't- go to your GP and get a referral for just a normal xray/ultrasound place and get one done on your own, but she'll definitely do one. And at 15 weeks, it will be really accurate. Are you having cramping etc? Because I know I've been getting it a fair bit lately, the common factor in my case is it usually happens when I'm tired- not sure if it's similar for you? But I'm telling you.... I have no idea how I'm going to drive home if I hear GIRL... I think I'm just going to tell myself there's no chance, despite there being NOTHING BETWEEN THE LEGS!!!! lol... Just telling myself Boy boy boy boy boy... Girls don't exist.. lol

[pinkin2011]

Are you going on your own???
My pain gets me when i sneeze or stand up, Not all the time but the cramps are that bad that i cant stand up properly or even move feels like i will rip in half!
I may be going for my scan by myself!, Its going to be very hard on my own

[JoannaK]

That sounds awful :S (the pain) But if there's no bleeding, that's a great sign that bub is fine, even if you might be ripping in half lol! With my last pregnancy, I took codeine (I can't remember the brand name, panadeine maybe?) and surprisingly it's still available over the counter (one of the few bloody things left that you can get over the counter!) And I took that with my back pain last pregnancy and it worked really well, might be something to try if the pain gets really bad?
With my scan, I WANT to go on my own lol- mostly because if I we find out it's a boy, I'd rather be alone when I get a bit disappointed and possibly cranky lol. And also because we have a very active and loud 13 month old boy, and I don't want him distracting my OB from finding out this bub's gender LOL.. But yet another spanner in the works is that our car has to be serviced tomorrow morning and picked up right after the scan, and our place is an hour away from my ob, so if I go on my own, I'm going to have to fly back home in the hire car so DH can go and pick up the car- I don't think it will be a good idea for me to go and pick up a car from a workshop predominantly run by males after finding out I'm having a 5th male LOL!!!!! I'd rip them in half!

[pinkin2011]

I think id rather go and find out on my own to , My hubby doesnt really care either way and I will be all upset and I feel id be better by myself.....
Oh no about the car what a total pain that is! More so if your not in a flash mood I just hope it all goes well for you! I bet you are so nervous tonight! How do you think you will sleep? When I think about my scan I get sick to my stomach and I still have 5 weeks to go! I will be a wreck!!!!

[JoannaK]

I have NO idea how I'm going to sleep tonight lol. But it won't be abnormal- I have had the worst insomnia lately (have had that before in other pregnancies too grrr). I just STILL can't get over this between legs shot... :( And the net has NOTHING, I've gone through 64 PAGES of google images and I found maybe one or two of the front on, baby facing you, shot- can you believe?! And I found one that looked IDENTICAL, and of course the woman didn't update!!! going crazy here!!!!!!

[JoannaK]

Don't you have a scan on Monday though?

[pinkin2011]

I really know how your feeling...

Yeah well seeing my ob and i HOPE she offers me a scan! If i do have one will prob be upset after it! But atleast I will know hey

[JoannaK]

Yeah definitely- knowledge is power, as they say. I know I'll just feel more relieved knowing for sure, because at least you KNOW something, hey? I may not be too happy, but at least I'll know- that's why you should really push to have it done- I can imagine it would be much better than going 5 weeks of having no idea! But I can also imagine the feeling of wanting to live in sweet denial! The thing is, there are really no gender clues in your pics whatsoever (and you had a really qualified tech back you up on that- being Coldwater), whereas I've had about 15 people say boy for me, and I've seen where they've pointed it out and it is just boy all over- so I think you definitely have a greater chance than me at the girl result!

[pinkin2011]

hmmm I am not so sure even tho coldwater said could be a girl she did say maybe boy?? I am just not sure.. I want to try and make myself believe its a boy you know what i mean? Even if I did believe it , it will be still hard to hear!

I still think you have hope and I really cant wait to hear your news tomorrow!
I know about the not sleeping thing tho mine is due to peeing all night and when i go to the loo i start thinking about things then take ages to get to sleep!

[JoannaK]

Yeah it's awful. Especially when you have a husband next to you that snores like a wild bore and falls asleep in approximately 3.2 seconds..... Very annoying....

[pinkin2011]

ha ha yeah well mine seems to fall asleep in the 3.2 seconds doesnt really snore but twitches that bad i nearly get bounced out of bed

[JoannaK]

LOL! You poor thing. I've given myself a ban on watching my scan for the 50,000th time. If you want to watch it, you're more than welcome!!!! lol- I'm going to try to sleep now- keyword: TRY! Scan is here baby2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toPg7UdWhEY)
I think the between legs shot is around 53 seconds in, you have to pause it really quickly though- and at 7:24 is where everyone on ingender says they can see boy, and it's really obvious, but if you look closely, you notice it disappear behind a leg or something, and then reappear- I was not aware penises could do this...

[Butterfly Spirit]

Mine falls asleep REALLY fast too lmao. I think he is part narcoleptic! And almost always after BDing. ;)

[sweetsister]

BUMPING for a tech to take a look:)i see boy though,i hope im wrong:(

[Waiting4Daisy]

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[Waiting4Daisy]

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[JoannaK]

Hi waiting4daisy- yes I'm on in-gender-I remember you posting on my thread after I lost my baby to Triploidy last year. I dont think I'll post on facebook, I've had enough boy guesses :S :( Pretty convinced now. I was just POSITIVE that I couldn't see anything between those legs:( Scan in 7 hours

[pinkin2011]

Good Luck today JoannaK!! Thinking of you!

[JoannaK]

Thanks pinkin...Very much expecting to hear boy, so I'm just trying to get into that mindset now.. Waiting4daisy has been chatting to me on ingender, and she is lovely, she told me that maybe the reason for another boy is that he was sent by his brother (who we lost at 20 weeks in November last year).. And thinking about it that way is definitely helping me cope

[pinkin2011]

As it would too, That is a great way to think of it and could very well be true! WEll if you are having a boy mine MUST be a boy too! My pic is pretty much the same as yours!

[JoannaK]

Haha definitely! Now if only I could get a 50/50 call from cold water, we'd be exactly the same!! Lucky you grrrrr :P

[pinkin2011]

YOU BETTER BE HAVING A GIRL!!!

[JoannaK]

Lol sadly, don't hold your breath!

[girlmom]

thats a boy hun. congrats 5 of a kind is awesome! we are very unique thats all.

[JoannaK]

Really hope you're wrong lol. But thanks for the input

[nuthinbutpink]

And a close up.... I've also flipped the photo so it looks like bub is sitting up, head up top, zoomed in on the two legs

This is the butt from the back so you wouldn't really see anything from this view either way.

[JoannaK]

No it's a front on view, it's happening as he/she is turning over. Trust me, I've seem my video at least 20 times now. There's clearly no spine shown, and the belly button and stomach is very visible

[JoannaK]

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[nuthinbutpink]

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Ok, this is in the next frame though. Potty shots are not reliable...your babe is moving quite a bit so I cannot say for sure.

[JoannaK]

Yeah I saw that. I thought that was the inner thigh bones as bub was turning over? God I don't know..

[JoannaK]

Pinkin I've got some good news for you....80% chance that this is a GIRL

[pinkin2011]

OH MY GOD!!! You are having a girl?

[JoannaK]

YES!!!!!!!!!!! I am seriously shaking. I can't stop.... I may need to be hospitalised

[Myloves]

Congrats, JoannaK. It's an incredible feeling isn't it? :o

[JoannaK]

I am in SHOCK. Lol... I honestly can't believe it. Pinkin, I think I'll be taking my own life if you don't get your girl after this...!

[Butterfly Spirit]

HOW WONDERFUL JOANNA K, So the tech said 80% chance for PINK? When will you get your next scan?

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[JoannaK]

Yep 80 % sure and I know this tech, he guessed my boy as a boy at 11 WEEKS. And his receptionist said in the 4 years she's been there he's never been wrong, so he's very very good. And he's not the type that gives you a prediction unless he's very sure. Next scan on the 15th of June! I can keep on decorating the nursery!!!!!

[TTC5]

Congratulations! I am so thrilled for you!!

[JoannaK]

Thanks ttc5, I'm still shaking!! This is very unfamiliar territory....!

[TTC5]

I could only imagine!!
My big scan is tomorrow but I know I wont be so lucky..

[Butterfly Spirit]

I could only imagine!!
My big scan is tomorrow but I know I wont be so lucky..

*Ahem*


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[Butterfly Spirit]

Yep 80 % sure and I know this tech, he guessed my boy as a boy at 11 WEEKS. And his receptionist said in the 4 years she's been there he's never been wrong, so he's very very good. And he's not the type that gives you a prediction unless he's very sure. Next scan on the 15th of June! I can keep on decorating the nursery!!!!!

SWEEEEEEEEEET!!!!! :D How Exciting!!!

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Here you go, breathe it all in!!!

[TTC5]

*Ahem*


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*runs away*

[Butterfly Spirit]

*runs away*

You still didn't tell me how many hours I have to wait.. I'm in the states remember? ;)

[JoannaK]

Ttc5, I thought your scan looked really boyish? Sorry if I'm wrong, I've seen about 300 scans in the last 24 hours lol

[Butterfly Spirit]

Ttc5, I thought your scan looked really boyish? Sorry if I'm wrong, I've seen about 300 scans in the last 24 hours lol

hehehe

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ultrasound-gender-prediction/9197-12-week-nub-skull-guesses-anyone-2.html

scroll on down!!! ;)

[pinkin2011]

JoannaK I really had a feeling about this being a girl for you but with all the boy votes and everything you said I was sooo put off and I couldnt read a scan if i tried!!!! I am SO HAPPY for you!!! Did you get the hire car home in one piece?? ha ha..!!

Am I having a girl??? he he

[Butterfly Spirit]

*runs away*

I dare you to post that recent pic as your profile pic :P and see how many agree with me.

[TTC5]

You still didn't tell me how many hours I have to wait.. I'm in the states remember? ;)

Ohhh well for me, 16.5 hrs!!! you may be asleep then yeah?!

[TTC5]

I dare you to post that recent pic as your profile pic :P and see how many agree with me.

Ohhhhh i still think it was cord haha

[TTC5]

Ttc5, I thought your scan looked really boyish? Sorry if I'm wrong, I've seen about 300 scans in the last 24 hours lol

Thats what I have been told but you know.... it would be me to be the one to get a real boy nub but it still be a girl!!!!

So when are you going shopping Joanna ;)

[Butterfly Spirit]

Ohhh well for me, 16.5 hrs!!! you may be asleep then yeah?!

No mam, 16.5 hours from now for me is....

4:30 PM! :)
Tis 1 min to Midnight here right now.

[JoannaK]

HAHAHAHAHA thanks pinkin, I had DH and DS with me do yes the hire car was left in one piece, probably because I wasn't driving it LOL. And ttc5, have you had a lot of girl guesses for your scan, is that why you seem tentative about it? Or do you just not believe it? Because that is ALL BOY!!! I can imagine you might feel that you just can't believe it after multiple bubs of the opposite gender. I honestly don't think I'd believe this bub was a girl even if she was holding a giant sign saying "I'm a girl" LOL!!!
I definitely got swayed though by all the boy guesses, as the other lady said here, you just become so swayed by what others think

[JoannaK]

I can't wait to hear your update ttc5! And pinkin, make sure you ask for that scan on Monday!

[pinkin2011]

Oh I will be! Cant see mine being a girl tho..

[JoannaK]

Oh and ttc5, I'm shopping RIGHT NOW on the net HEHEHE how pathetic am I ?!!!

[JoannaK]

Oh I will be! Cant see mine being a girl tho..

You have EVERY chance of a girl- I mean look at me, I had literally 10 people on in gender say this was a boy, including a person who is apparently so experienced (cough cough giggle giggle) and see what happened to me?! And this was guessed from a pretty obvious boy nub- yours really has no nub clues at all, so you just don't know...

[Butterfly Spirit]

You have EVERY chance of a girl- I mean look at me, I had literally 10 people on in gender say this was a boy, including a person who is apparently so experienced (cough cough giggle giggle) and see what happened to me?! And this was guessed from a pretty obvious boy nub- yours really has no nub clues at all, so you just don't know...

AMEN!!!!!!

[TTC5]

Enjoy that pink shopping :D

[TTC5]

No mam, 16.5 hours from now for me is....

4:30 PM! :)
Tis 1 min to Midnight here right now.

Ahhhh!!!!!!!!

[TTC5]

HAHAHAHAHA thanks pinkin, I had DH and DS with me do yes the hire car was left in one piece, probably because I wasn't driving it LOL. And ttc5, have you had a lot of girl guesses for your scan, is that why you seem tentative about it? Or do you just not believe it? Because that is ALL BOY!!! I can imagine you might feel that you just can't believe it after multiple bubs of the opposite gender. I honestly don't think I'd believe this bub was a girl even if she was holding a giant sign saying "I'm a girl" LOL!!!
I definitely got swayed though by all the boy guesses, as the other lady said here, you just become so swayed by what others think

I just can't believe it lol. Ingender all boy guesses too!

[JoannaK]

Lol have you told your girls? They must be thrilled!

[pinkin2011]

I know but where the heck is my babies nub?? i have had boy guesses ( more of ) some girl guesses too so in my eyes it has to be a boy! Anyway will see soon I hope but I have a feeling she prob wont be happy about me asking to look between the legs esp at 15 weeks

[TTC5]

Lol have you told your girls? They must be thrilled!

Oh no we dont know the gender yet, but yep we will tell our girls.

Have you told your boys J?

[JoannaK]

I have told them!!! In fact Matty, my oldest (he's 4), has been ADAMANT from the start that this is a girl- whenever I'd ask him "is there a boy baby or a girl baby in mummy's tummy?" he'd say "girl baby!" without any hesitation. So there you go ladies, forget the 10 + boy guesses, stick to a 4 year old's opinion!!!!

[JoannaK]

And pinkin, if you don't think your OB (will it be an OB doing it, or a tech?) will look between the legs, go somewhere else, just make sure you have a referral from your normal GP, and get it done there- but at 15 weeks, you have a MUCH better chance at finding at, than at the 12-13 week NT scan :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

I have told them!!! In fact Matty, my oldest (he's 4), has been ADAMANT from the start that this is a girl- whenever I'd ask him "is there a boy baby or a girl baby in mummy's tummy?" he'd say "girl baby!" without any hesitation. So there you go ladies, forget the 10 + boy guesses, stick to a 4 year old's opinion!!!!

It's TRUE! I just made a post about my kids telling me about my pregnancies lol

[JoannaK]

I also thought I'd show you ladies the beginnings of my GIRL nursery hehehe-- I had actually bought this awhile ago, well before today! So I know I was taking a huge risk.. I'm really into the shabby chic/french style pale pink/lavender things :)

[pinkin2011]

Joanna My d/s is 4 in sep and he is the same he says its a girl even named it even ters up when i say boy he says no its a girl! who knows hey!

[pinkin2011]

awww how gorgeous is that! I am into all that too! when have done our house French/ Country style. Huge rennos

[Butterfly Spirit]

Very sweet Joanna! :) And now you can GO NUTZ!!!

[JoannaK]

Yeah I fear I'm going to really go bananas with the girl stuff, it's all just such a new world to me LOL!! And honestly, everyone knows there is SO MUCH more stuff for girls than boys, even from infancy that fact seems very clear!!! And yes, kids know a lot hey...You DEFINITELY shouldn't be losing hope!! I'm your shining example here!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Joanna My d/s is 4 in sep and he is the same he says its a girl even named it even ters up when i say boy he says no its a girl! who knows hey!

before I knew I was prego... babies said "baby sister in there"
They know!

[pinkin2011]

Yeah but I dont seem to get what I want with anything LOL why would this be any different! I need to really get it in my head that it will be a boy

[JoannaK]

I'm STILL in shock lol. We have arrived back home, making dinner, and I STILL can't stand properly lol. I honestly don't think it'll hit me until this kid is born...

[pinkin2011]

I hope your right Butterfly... I hope your right

[JoannaK]

Well, the tide has to turn eventually, if you don't get many things that you want, maybe this is the turning point!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

I hope your right Butterfly... I hope your right

Me too sweetheart! I hope you get a shot to tell on Monday!

[pinkin2011]

ha ha will prob see a big doodle!

[Butterfly Spirit]

ha ha will prob see a big doodle!

So you have one son right?

[pinkin2011]

yes I do

[Butterfly Spirit]

yes I do

Just pmed ya, did you get it?

And... I wouldn't trade DS#2 for a girl! Not for the world!! ;)

[JoannaK]

IF it is a boy, I think they will get along really well- my first two boys are the closest out of all the boys, it's a really special bond- and the way I think of it is, the more boys you have, if you do get your girl, she'll be REALLY protected by big brothers then! This girl is going to be the most protected in town lol

[Butterfly Spirit]

IF it is a boy, I think they will get along really well- my first two boys are the closest out of all the boys, it's a really special bond- and the way I think of it is, the more boys you have, if you do get your girl, she'll be REALLY protected by big brothers then! This girl is going to be the most protected in town lol

Oh she will melt in the end no matter what! ;)

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Congrats,i feel bad now saying boy yesterday i just thought its better to say the truth what you see and if it is a girl then you are so surprised and happy than to get your hopes up to come crashing down.Like im trying to convince myself im having a boy already so hopefully i wont get bad gd if it happens?KWIM?Im staying away from guessing anymore i have a hard time even making out my own ultrasounds,its like an optical illusion to me,, Anyways many congraTs to you enjoy shopping for girlie clothes:)

[JoannaK]

Thanks so much sweetsister- and I know exactly what you mean, its better to go into it expecting the opposite of what you really "want", because in the end we all know we're going to love them, but it's the best method of coping at that particular time xxo

[JoannaK]

How are you feeling pinkin?

[TTC5]

Awwww love the decos you have so far Joanna!

[pinkin2011]

Like crap ! ha ha

[pinkin2011]

But it does go without saying I will love this baby no matter what and I am greatful he/she is healthy!

[JoannaK]

:( Wish I could give you a big hug! I know everyone says it and it's easier said than done, but try not to agonize over it- get out in the fresh air and get your mind on a job that's completely unrelated to the scan- I got a hell of a lot of gardening done in the TTC phase! lol

[pinkin2011]

Oh I have been! I have been pushing a pram and walking 10km a day! I have to otherwise i would go nuts! I hope I wont have any weight to loose at the end

[Butterfly Spirit]

Oh I have been! I have been pushing a pram and walking 10km a day! I have to otherwise i would go nuts! I hope I wont have any weight to loose at the end

Wow, active woman! :)
Good for baby. I was never that active while prego, and now I'm more scared than ever before!

[pinkin2011]

I wasnt either But I push myself to go and it does make me feel a bit better but I must admit I am thinking about it ALL the time

[JoannaK]

Agreed- I could never do that!! Though I'm currently awaiting for a piano to arrive because I used to play, and I've waited 6 years to be able to get a piano, so I can't wait to be able to play to bub, I think it will be really good for her after birth

[Butterfly Spirit]

I wasnt either But I push myself to go and it does make me feel a bit better but I must admit I am thinking about it ALL the time

It's okay, I eat, breathe, and sleep TTC again! It drives my DH CRAZY! But I told him I am not giving up.
:)

[JoannaK]

I wasnt either But I push myself to go and it does make me feel a bit better but I must admit I am thinking about it ALL the time

At the very least, you only have 4 more sleeps to go until you'll know SOMETHING, I'm praying so hard for you!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Agreed- I could never do that!! Though I'm currently awaiting for a piano to arrive because I used to play, and I've waited 6 years to be able to get a piano, so I can't wait to be able to play to bub, I think it will be really good for her after birth

That will be wonderful for you to play even while she's inside of you!!! How fun!!! :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

I just realized something REALLY funny

DH can = Dear Husband or DAMN Husband!!! LMAO!!!!

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[JoannaK]

that's hilarious!!!!! I've thought it was meant to be Dear husband, but maybe we've all been wrong all along!!!!! And that's the spirit about not giving up, I'm also so sorry to read of your loss so recently *big hugs*

[pinkin2011]

Its so hard for me because to be honest I feel like its a girl but My heart wont let me believe it or maybe my head wont let me believe it?? I felt girl from conception and I felt strong boy with my ds.... BUT is it because 7 psychics have said I am having a girl now and a boy next?? They have all said a total of 3 kids boy girl boy all in same order. I saw a psychic the other days and she said I am having a girl and she is 80 to 90 percent right and I will have another boy so Is it just from what these people are saying that make me think its a girl?? Its got me tossed! I am just hanging out big time!

[pinkin2011]

I thought it was Darling husband!! ha ha I wish I had a Darling husband!!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

that's hilarious!!!!! I've thought it was meant to be Dear husband, but maybe we've all been wrong all along!!!!! And that's the spirit about not giving up, I'm also so sorry to read of your loss so recently *big hugs*

Oh I know right!? :)
He's hellbent on not having a third, and I'm hellbent on having a third. I already won once, just gotta do it again! I pray I conceive in the next cycle, hoping my thyroid will be ready for it by then! Then I can stop the Vitex on first +opk!

And thank you for your support! :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

I thought it was Darling husband!! ha ha I wish I had a Darling husband!!!!

HAHA That's good too!!!! :D

[Butterfly Spirit]

HAHA That's good too!!!! :D

Can I also add another bad one.. D- headed husband!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Its so hard for me because to be honest I feel like its a girl but My heart wont let me believe it or maybe my head wont let me believe it?? I felt girl from conception and I felt strong boy with my ds.... BUT is it because 7 psychics have said I am having a girl now and a boy next?? They have all said a total of 3 kids boy girl boy all in same order. I saw a psychic the other days and she said I am having a girl and she is 80 to 90 percent right and I will have another boy so Is it just from what these people are saying that make me think its a girl?? Its got me tossed! I am just hanging out big time!

Well we are almost to the weekend! Then it will be Monday before you know it!!!! ;)

[JoannaK]

This is what happened to me- I have NEVER had these "gut feelings" you hear about, you know? You know how you hear about people who say "i just knew"- I used to think "pfft yeah right". Because I have NEVER had that happen to me, until now- it was only until THIS pregnancy that I just felt deep down that this was a girl. And that got really crushed when I had all the boy guesses, but there was just something in me that couldn't let it go, so if you feel that, I would really trust it :) There's so much more to this world that goes on that medicine/science can't explain, so really listen to that gut feeling... Oh and also, the whole HCG being higher is TRUE- with my son, at 12 weeks, my HCG (in funny weird units) was 42 iu/l-- this time, exact same stage 12 weeks: hcg: 82 IU/L, literally DOUBLE... and also, my placenta was laying on the left, which is meant to indicate girl, the accuracy is meant to be about 97 %. If you have a picture of an early scan (between 6 and 9 weeks) and you see bub laying towards the right, it's almost always a girl (the ultrasound is flipped/mirror image in a transvaginal scans, the ones they do really early on).So I do think there's some truth to all that- because I looked back at my boys early scans, and they were all laying on the left (which would be the right side when you flip it)

[JoannaK]

Oh I know right!? :)
He's hellbent on not having a third, and I'm hellbent on having a third. I already won once, just gotta do it again! I pray I conceive in the next cycle, hoping my thyroid will be ready for it by then! Then I can stop the Vitex on first +opk!

And thank you for your support! :)

Oh god, I remember the drug path LOL at one point I was on vitex, red clover, red raspberry, royal egg, fertilaid- you name it, I was on it lol. Out of all of those things, red clover was definitely the most effective for me, that and Pre-Seed- I got the BFP on the first month of using the Pre-Seed, magic stuff!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

This is what happened to me- I have NEVER had these "gut feelings" you hear about, you know? You know how you hear about people who say "i just knew"- I used to think "pfft yeah right". Because I have NEVER had that happen to me, until now- it was only until THIS pregnancy that I just felt deep down that this was a girl. And that got really crushed when I had all the boy guesses, but there was just something in me that couldn't let it go, so if you feel that, I would really trust it :) There's so much more to this world that goes on that medicine/science can't explain, so really listen to that gut feeling... Oh and also, the whole HCG being higher is TRUE- with my son, at 12 weeks, my HCG (in funny weird units) was 42 iu/l-- this time, exact same stage 12 weeks: hcg: 82 IU/L, literally DOUBLE... and also, my placenta was laying on the left, which is meant to indicate girl, the accuracy is meant to be about 97 %. If you have a picture of an early scan (between 6 and 9 weeks) and you see bub laying towards the right, it's almost always a girl (the ultrasound is flipped/mirror image in a transvaginal scans, the ones they do really early on).So I do think there's some truth to all that- because I looked back at my boys early scans, and they were all laying on the left (which would be the right side when you flip it)

Thanks for sharing that! I didn't know that transvaginals were flipped! :)

I "thought" both my boys were girls.. but I had a GUT feeling with my passed little one, then my DH had a dream it was a girl, and his family has premonitional dreams. :) I'm happy I'll get to meet her in the next life.
And I don't know about the ring test but I got
Circle, Circle, Straight Line, Diagonal! :)
I guess circles mean boys for me!
I didn't know about higher HCG can mean boys thanks for posting that too!

Do you mind if I ask how old you are Joanna? :)

[pinkin2011]

I dont know if i cant let myself go with it!
Yeah i know what your saying about the ultrasound and as for HCG I have no idea about mine but i do know I got my bpp at 9 days after our attempt and with my ds it was 1 day after af was due I was testing for a week before and nothing! then the day after i was due i got a bfp so this one was super early BUT I cant go off that as woman get early bfp and still have a boy

[Butterfly Spirit]

Oh god, I remember the drug path LOL at one point I was on vitex, red clover, red raspberry, royal egg, fertilaid- you name it, I was on it lol. Out of all of those things, red clover was definitely the most effective for me, that and Pre-Seed- I got the BFP on the first month of using the Pre-Seed, magic stuff!!

That's awesome! I barely took Vitex, even less than 2 weeks, and it worked. :)
I also used RepHresh and SYLK.
I'm so glad you got your Girl on pre-seed. I'm too scared it will sway blue.

[TTC5]

on hcg topic, my girls I had bad ms!!! Was told prob had a high hcg level making me feel so sick.
This one my hcg was so low and voila. No ms.
But we will confirm tomorrow the gender haha

[TTC5]

Instincts too - I have felt this is a boy too from day dot. But now so close to scan done, nope it has to be a girl, right?...

[pinkin2011]

I was sick from 6 weeks until 13 weeks with my d/s just feeling sick and off my food.
This time round OH MY so so sick from 6 weeks until 8 weeks Then it sort of died off so very strange

[pinkin2011]

I know what you mean ttc5 you sound so much like me

[Butterfly Spirit]

on hcg topic, my girls I had bad ms!!! Was told prob had a high hcg level making me feel so sick.
This one my hcg was so low and voila. No ms.
But we will confirm tomorrow the gender haha

OMG you are having the opposite M/S as your girls!? SEE!!!! hehehe :P

Did you get my pm lady?

[JoannaK]

Yes sadly, I'm one of the ones who get early BFPs and still have boys LOL. I got this BFP at 9 dpo as well, and my son was exactly the same, so I don't think there's a lot of truth in the pregnancy tests- but the HCG is definitely one to look for- and sorry Butterfly Spirit, my comment was muddled and confusing, higher HCG is meant to indicate girl, and seems to be quite true, for me anyway. Also, I'm 24. I got in early lol. But after the loss of our boy last year, I became so paranoid that I couldn't become pregnant again and it did take us 3 months (which after reading so many other poor people's stories, is RIDICULOUSLY fast). I don't know how people do it, how YOU do it, trying for so many months! I have a lot of respect for people with that level of commitment, very admirable

[Butterfly Spirit]

Instincts too - I have felt this is a boy too from day dot. But now so close to scan done, nope it has to be a girl, right?...

NOPE! I had a DEEP gut feeling as my BFP popped up. I knew it was a girl, and I know everyone prob thinks I'm crazy since I'm all boy diet! hahaha :)

LISTEN to your first day GUT! and in 13.5 hrs you will believe me! :p

[Butterfly Spirit]

Yes sadly, I'm one of the ones who get early BFPs and still have boys LOL. I got this BFP at 9 dpo as well, and my son was exactly the same, so I don't think there's a lot of truth in the pregnancy tests- but the HCG is definitely one to look for- and sorry Butterfly Spirit, my comment was muddled and confusing, higher HCG is meant to indicate girl, and seems to be quite true, for me anyway. Also, I'm 24. I got in early lol. But after the loss of our boy last year, I became so paranoid that I couldn't become pregnant again and it did take us 3 months (which after reading so many other poor people's stories, is RIDICULOUSLY fast). I don't know how people do it, how YOU do it, trying for so many months! I have a lot of respect for people with that level of commitment, very admirable

Ahh no problem! Well that would certainly explain my ghostlines 5 days before AF Was due! :)
I love the little things you ladies teach me daily! lol
I'm so sorry for your loss as well!!! :broken::sadflwr: how terrible!!!

Oh and 24 is a fantastic age to conceive! :)
I'm almost 31.

[JoannaK]

:) Also, can someone please tell TTC5 once again, that she is HAVING A BOY!!!!!!!!!!! Gees woman!!!! I will bet my HOUSE on it LOL

[Butterfly Spirit]

:) Also, can someone please tell TTC5 once again, that she is HAVING A BOY!!!!!!!!!!! Gees woman!!!! I will bet my HOUSE on it LOL

RIGHT RIGHT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :)
I can't wait OMG...
I keep telling her to put that crotch shot under her name! LMAO

[pinkin2011]

Yes I wish I was 24!

[JoannaK]

LOL butterfly spirit- that pic couldn't be any more boyish could it!!!?? And pinkin, it is an ok age- While I have the energy to chase after little boys! But it's hard in other ways, because my immediate family isn't supportive of my wish for a big family, and younger parents (even though my mother was younger than I was when I had my first.... go figure hey!), but my husband's side of the family is really good and supportive- but sadly I do feel like an outcast a lot of the time, because the average age of first time mums is a lot older than me- but as I get older, I become more ok with it, whatever your age- as long as the little ones are loved as much as possible!

[pinkin2011]

I was 24 when i had my d/s I am 28 now.. It was a Big deal for me to have this baby now but I kind of wish I could of not had such a big age gap but I cant really help that

[Butterfly Spirit]

LOL butterfly spirit- that pic couldn't be any more boyish could it!!!?? And pinkin, it is an ok age- While I have the energy to chase after little boys! But it's hard in other ways, because my immediate family isn't supportive of my wish for a big family, and younger parents (even though my mother was younger than I was when I had my first.... go figure hey!), but my husband's side of the family is really good and supportive- but sadly I do feel like an outcast a lot of the time, because the average age of first time mums is a lot older than me- but as I get older, I become more ok with it, whatever your age- as long as the little ones are loved as much as possible!

Nope I've been getting after TTC5 for days! HEHE I can't wait for that secret reveal video! :)

God blessed you to be a mamma early, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it!
SO anyways... I think you need to make a ticker now ;)

:ballerina:

[Butterfly Spirit]

I was sick from 6 weeks until 13 weeks with my d/s just feeling sick and off my food.
This time round OH MY so so sick from 6 weeks until 8 weeks Then it sort of died off so very strange

When did it die off?

[pinkin2011]

was gone by 9 weeks.. still have my moments but 100 percent now

[JoannaK]

Nope I've been getting after TTC5 for days! HEHE I can't wait for that secret reveal video! :)

God blessed you to be a mamma early, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it!
SO anyways... I think you need to make a ticker now ;)

:ballerina:

oooooooh yes I can, I forgot about that LOL. Her name will definitely be Aliana (pronounced ally-arna).. Not sure for middle names, but maybe Aliana Mary or Aliana Claire

[JoannaK]

Or Aliana Mary-Claire! But I'm thinking that's possibly too many middle names lol?! But then again, Im joanna mary elizabeth...

[Butterfly Spirit]

was gone by 9 weeks.. still have my moments but 100 percent now

AWESOME!!!! :D

[Butterfly Spirit]

Or Aliana Mary-Claire! But I'm thinking that's possibly too many middle names lol?! But then again, Im joanna mary elizabeth...

Aliana is cute and unique! And she'll probably LOVE everyone calling her Ali for short! :)

How about Marie Claire if you go with two middle names

[JoannaK]

Yes that's why we like it so much- I love names where you can clearly have a good nickname as well- Matthew is obviously matty, Jeremy is Jezza (or "no more tantrums or you'll get a time out!" - but we figured that was a long name to spell for him hehehe) and Ben's nickname is Bink (just because we thought it was funny and cute :P)

[JoannaK]

I can't remember the pronunciations with the Marie and Marees- is Marie pronounced "Mahr-ee"? and Maree is obviously "maa-ree".. Hope that makes sense!

[Butterfly Spirit]

I can't remember the pronunciations with the Marie and Marees- is Marie pronounced "Mahr-ee"? and Maree is obviously "maa-ree".. Hope that makes sense!

Marie to me sounds like "Muh-ree" Mary to me sounds like "Mare-ee" Right? :)

[JoannaK]

Yeah, I wanted Mary because she was one of my closest friends- well adult friends! She was my mother's close friend (How those two were friends I'll never know, because my mother isn't one for being family oriented). Whereas Mary had 5 girls and 1 boy (I am good friends with her daughter who's the same age as me), she always understood me, when everyone else (including my family, sadly didn't)- and with having so many children, the house was always a buzz, and I just always felt so cared for and happy in that house- I spent more time there than my own house. Anyway when I was 13, she passed away from bone cancer, when she was 47. So I'd love to be able to preserve her memory by passing her name down. And Claire because that was the name of my grandmother who passed away in 2006 of cancer as well- and again, the most beautiful person I've ever known, the only person in the family who ever defended me, and understood me etc, just a very calm, beautiful woman- and how's this for irony? Nan's birthday was the 3rd of november. I found out last year on the 3rd of november that my baby boy had triploidy, and we lost him on the 9th of november. this time, my c section will be on the 6th of november- i wanted to make it earlier, closer to nan's birthday , but I don't want the bub coming too early... So many ironies involved here! So again, I'd love to be able to throw a "claire" in there too !

[Butterfly Spirit]

Yeah, I wanted Mary because she was one of my closest friends- well adult friends! She was my mother's close friend (How those two were friends I'll never know, because my mother isn't one for being family oriented). Whereas Mary had 5 girls and 1 boy (I am good friends with her daughter who's the same age as me), she always understood me, when everyone else (including my family, sadly didn't)- and with having so many children, the house was always a buzz, and I just always felt so cared for and happy in that house- I spent more time there than my own house. Anyway when I was 13, she passed away from bone cancer, when she was 47. So I'd love to be able to preserve her memory by passing her name down. And Claire because that was the name of my grandmother who passed away in 2006 of cancer as well- and again, the most beautiful person I've ever known, the only person in the family who ever defended me, and understood me etc, just a very calm, beautiful woman- and how's this for irony? Nan's birthday was the 3rd of november. I found out last year on the 3rd of november that my baby boy had triploidy, and we lost him on the 9th of november. this time, my c section will be on the 6th of november- i wanted to make it earlier, closer to nan's birthday , but I don't want the bub coming too early... So many ironies involved here! So again, I'd love to be able to throw a "claire" in there too !

Oh wow, what a touching story, and I am sorry for your losses!
Thank you for sharing that. Mary is VERY important! Hey both go with Claire very nicely!
Just Marie Claire magazine here in the US came to mind and that's why I said Marie hehe ;) Both names are absolutely lovely, and I'm SO glad you can finally use them! :)

[TTC5]

My youngests middle name is Mary :)

[JoannaK]

I keep forgetting Mary is my middle name too! LOL But it's combined with elizabeth... I think I really like Aliana Mary Claire :) Can't wait to keep going on this nursery, I'm sitting in the middle of it! We had all the carpets cleaned today so I'm going to put DH (dickhead maybe?!!!!! LOL) to work and get the cot set up.... I'll do everything else lol

[TTC5]

Yes set that dickhead to work, HAHAHA.

[TTC5]

I was 24 when i had my d/s I am 28 now.. It was a Big deal for me to have this baby now but I kind of wish I could of not had such a big age gap but I cant really help that

4 YEARS is a lovely gap. My girls are 13, 9, 5 and almost 4. The 4 years between first three was great!

[JoannaK]

Hehehehehehehehehe

[TTC5]

Nope I've been getting after TTC5 for days! HEHE I can't wait for that secret reveal video! :)

God blessed you to be a mamma early, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it!
SO anyways... I think you need to make a ticker now ;)

:ballerina:

So did god bless me too having my first at 15 *shifty eyes*.... :P

[pinkin2011]

Yeah very nice for me! I hope they play together tho!!

[TTC5]

OMG you are having the opposite M/S as your girls!? SEE!!!! hehehe :P

Did you get my pm lady?

I did! ;)

And yes total opposite MS BUT who believes in that hey... :P

[TTC5]

Gosh sorry Joanna, we have hijacked your thread LOL!

[TTC5]

NOPE! I had a DEEP gut feeling as my BFP popped up. I knew it was a girl, and I know everyone prob thinks I'm crazy since I'm all boy diet! hahaha :)

LISTEN to your first day GUT! and in 13.5 hrs you will believe me! :p

13.5 rofl! Who is counting now heheh

[JoannaK]

So did god bless me too having my first at 15 *shifty eyes*.... :P

Of course!!!!! You sound like a beautiful mother! You possibly might need a checkup with your optometrist, seeing as though you're having trouble seeing the big BOY BIT in your ultrasound pic, but other than that, you sound like a wonderful mum!! :P

And chat away! No hi-jacking going on here, just a crazy woman who still can't believe I could be having a girl LOL

[Butterfly Spirit]

So did god bless me too having my first at 15 *shifty eyes*.... :P

Oh wOw!!! :) So did you marry him then?
Alright I have a confession, so DH got me pregnant too the first month we met, but he is a wonderful person and I love him very much! Plus he's a wonderful daddy!
Everything happens for a reason! I believe it!

[TTC5]

:) Also, can someone please tell TTC5 once again, that she is HAVING A BOY!!!!!!!!!!! Gees woman!!!! I will bet my HOUSE on it LOL

Going to take much more than telling lol I am in utter denial tonight, so much so I actually had a cry tonight!! God I am so crazy!!

[TTC5]

Oh wOw!!! :) So did you marry him then?
Alright I have a confession, so DH got me pregnant too the first month we met, but he is a wonderful person and I love him very much! Plus he's a wonderful daddy!
Everything happens for a reason! I believe it!

Did I marry who? God?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA ;)

[TTC5]

Of course!!!!! You sound like a beautiful mother! You possibly might need a checkup with your optometrist, seeing as though you're having trouble seeing the big BOY BIT in your ultrasound pic, but other than that, you sound like a wonderful mum!! :P

And chat away! No hi-jacking going on here, just a crazy woman who still can't believe I could be having a girl LOL

hahahahahaha i actually do have glasses but too lazy to wear them LOL! Maybe if I put them on I may see this penis you all speak so fondly of?!!!

[TTC5]

Oh and you are not "could be having a girl" you ARE HAVING A GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!


YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[TTC5]

Thanks for sharing that! I didn't know that transvaginals were flipped! :)

I "thought" both my boys were girls.. but I had a GUT feeling with my passed little one, then my DH had a dream it was a girl, and his family has premonitional dreams. :) I'm happy I'll get to meet her in the next life.
And I don't know about the ring test but I got
Circle, Circle, Straight Line, Diagonal! :)
I guess circles mean boys for me!
I didn't know about higher HCG can mean boys thanks for posting that too!

Do you mind if I ask how old you are Joanna? :)

I have those kind of dreams myself. Have dreamt of this baby too....

[Butterfly Spirit]

Did I marry who? God?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA ;)

No mam, your baby's daddy!!!! ;)

[Butterfly Spirit]

hahahahahaha i actually do have glasses but too lazy to wear them LOL! Maybe if I put them on I may see this penis you all speak so fondly of?!!!

OH FOR HELLSAKES Put them on WOMAN!!! :P

[TTC5]

So did you say you posted pics, Butterfly? Or did I read the pm wrong LOL..

[JoannaK]

Oh and you are not "could be having a girl" you ARE HAVING A GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!


YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

hehehehe yes yes yes I'm guilty of denial too! Have you had coldwater take a look at your pic? she's REALLY good

[Butterfly Spirit]

Oh and you are not "could be having a girl" you ARE HAVING A GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!


YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Her tech is 80% sure it's a GIRL and according to the receptionist he is never wrong!

[TTC5]

My first born, her biological sperm giver lol had no interest in being a Dad.. he was only 15 too and yeah... BUT I met my now DH when she was a baby :D

[Butterfly Spirit]

So did you say you posted pics, Butterfly? Or did I read the pm wrong LOL..

YES :)

[JoannaK]

If coldwater says she's more than 80% sure of a gender, you can take that to the bank, seriously. That's why I REALLY wish I knew what she would have thought of my gender, what she would have said! (before we got the confirmation)

[TTC5]

hehehehe yes yes yes I'm guilty of denial too! Have you had coldwater take a look at your pic? she's REALLY good

Yep she said Boy!! So did Foxy and she is good too ;)

[TTC5]

YES :)

Can you link me please :D

[JoannaK]

Her tech is 80% sure it's a GIRL and according to the receptionist he is never wrong!

Damn straight woman!

[TTC5]

I must be over using the like button lol cos it has disappeared on me again :(

[Butterfly Spirit]

My first born, her biological sperm giver lol had no interest in being a Dad.. he was only 15 too and yeah... BUT I met my now DH when she was a baby :D

Aww okay, I'll bet your DH is wonderful! :)

[TTC5]

OMG 12 HOURS TO GO for me!!!


ahhhhh HOPE i get good news like you did Joanna!

[TTC5]

Aww okay, I'll bet your DH is wonderful! :)

Definately. My eldest calls her Dad and they are SO close!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Can you link me please :D

go look and scroll down on the page.

[JoannaK]

Yep she said Boy!! So did Foxy and she is good too ;)

So what are you worried about woman!!!!!!? :P

[TTC5]

go look and scroll down on the page.

I did look but I am BLIND, remember :P

[TTC5]

So what are you worried about woman!!!!!!? :P

I am worried about having another GIRL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Butterfly Spirit]

My first born, her biological sperm giver lol had no interest in being a Dad.. he was only 15 too and yeah... BUT I met my now DH when she was a baby :D

AWW what a sweet guy! I'll bet your DH is wonderful!

[TTC5]

He is a gem thats for sure :)

I mean what boy at 17 takes on a girl with a baby and treats her like his own?

[JoannaK]

I am worried about having another GIRL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Lol good point! Seriously, if you don't get told you're having a boy, then I have two heads and I live on Mars!!

[JoannaK]

He is a gem thats for sure :)

I mean what boy at 17 takes on a girl with a baby and treats her like his own?

Sounds like a wonderful DH, not a dickhead at all!!! lol..My first two boys have a different dad and my DH is so good to them, I was worried when I had my 3rd bub (DH and my first baby), because I thought he might treat them differently, but no- he treats them all the same

[Butterfly Spirit]

Lol good point! Seriously, if you don't get told you're having a boy, then I have two heads and I live on Mars!!

LMFAO>>>>........BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA RIGHT RIGHT!!!!!!!!

[TTC5]

Lol good point! Seriously, if you don't get told you're having a boy, then I have two heads and I live on Mars!!

Don't start on the two heads now, I am Tasmanian after all ;)

[TTC5]

Sounds like a wonderful DH, not a dickhead at all!!! lol..My first two boys have a different dad and my DH is so good to them, I was worried when I had my 3rd bub (DH and my first baby), because I thought he might treat them differently, but no- he treats them all the same

LOL oh he has his fair share of dickheadyness! LOL

[TTC5]

Aghhhhhhh my inbox wont open now???!!!!! Something is corrupting my account lol!!! See it's an omen!!!

[JoannaK]

Don't start on the two heads now, I am Tasmanian after all ;)

LMFAO I just spat out some of my dinner from laughing so hard

[TTC5]

LMFAO I just spat out some of my dinner from laughing so hard

Butterfly prob wont get the joke though being american and all lol

[Butterfly Spirit]

Aghhhhhhh my inbox wont open now???!!!!! Something is corrupting my account lol!!! See it's an omen!!!

Go restart your computer and return. :) Then go to the page and click on the album.

[TTC5]

Ok saw three pics in your albums, is that right? :)

[JoannaK]

lol true- I didn't know butterfly was an american?

[TTC5]

If you inbox me your facebook link I will add you as a friend and you can see my family! You too Joanna!

[TTC5]

lol true- I didn't know butterfly was an american?

Yep pretty sure she is or maybe I didn't read correctly AGAIN ;)

[Butterfly Spirit]

lol true- I didn't know butterfly was an american?

Guilty! LOL I'd rather live with the Cockatoos like ya'll!!!! :P

[Butterfly Spirit]

If you inbox me your facebook link I will add you as a friend and you can see my family! You too Joanna!

Hubs and I had an account, but due to family drama it got shut down.. but I'll pm you my sister's account.

[JoannaK]

Yep pretty sure she is or maybe I didn't read correctly AGAIN ;)

Hehehe yes well that seems to be a problem DOESNT IT!!! lol my facebook link is here : Joanna Kingston | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/joanna.mckey) not sure if i did that right?

[TTC5]

Oh my Joanna, is that you in the profile pic? You look sooo young and gorgeous!!!

[JoannaK]

Oh my Joanna, is that you in the profile pic? You look sooo young and gorgeous!!!

Thanks! Is it sad that I know this was taken one day before AF came, and my first failed TTC attempt??!!! (back in January this year, a month before the successful month)... Interesting little side note for you LOL

[Butterfly Spirit]

Hehehe yes well that seems to be a problem DOESNT IT!!! lol my facebook link is here : Joanna Kingston | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/joanna.mckey) not sure if i did that right?

I just sent you a request from my sister's account..she hardly uses lol

By the way,, what a SWEET couple you and your hubby make!

[TTC5]

Joanna I am looking on pumpkin patch how cute is this?
Pumpkin Patch - all in one - boutique frill front all in one - W2BU20002 - rose water - newborn to 12-18mths (http://www.pumpkinpatch.com.au/flatshot/W2BU20002/col/ROSEWATER/listing/147389/categorypath/baby/baby-girl/collections/special-moments/)

[Butterfly Spirit]

Joanna I am looking on pumpkin patch how cute is this?
Pumpkin Patch - all in one - boutique frill front all in one - W2BU20002 - rose water - newborn to 12-18mths (http://www.pumpkinpatch.com.au/flatshot/W2BU20002/col/ROSEWATER/listing/147389/categorypath/baby/baby-girl/collections/special-moments/)

Holy Hell woman you better not be looking at that for YOUR baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P

[JoannaK]

I just sent you a request from my sister's account..she hardly uses lol

By the way,, what a SWEET couple you and your hubby make!

Accepted both requests- I don't use facebook much but maybe this will encourage me to!

[TTC5]

Sadly yep I am.. trying to psych myself up just in case it is a girl....

[JoannaK]

Holy Hell woman you better not be looking at that for YOUR baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P

I concur LOL .. she's probably thinking if she looks at boy stuff, she'll jinx the whole thing and the boy's little boy bits will fall off!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Accepted both requests- I don't use facebook much but maybe this will encourage me to!

I used to be an addict until my hubs and I account got shut down. But I still have friends on my sis account to keep in touch! :)

[pinkin2011]

OH MY GOD i went to McDonalds to get a cold drink and come back to this thread I cant keep up anymore!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

OH MY GOD i went to McDonalds to get a cold drink and come back to this thread I cant keep up anymore!!

We're just having an instant all night chat and bonding session! Welcome back!!! LOL :)

[TTC5]

I concur LOL .. she's probably thinking if she looks at boy stuff, she'll jinx the whole thing and the boy's little boy bits will fall off!

Yep that is so my luck lol!!

[JoannaK]

OH MY GOD i went to McDonalds to get a cold drink and come back to this thread I cant keep up anymore!!

LOL sorry pinkin.... we've gotten a bit carried away!!!!!!!

[pinkin2011]

TTC5 those girl clothes are so so cute it makes me sad looking at them. I SHOULDNT have looked at them

[pinkin2011]

ha ha ha A BIT carried away ha ha... I will join back in

[JoannaK]

TTC5 those girl clothes are so so cute it makes me sad looking at them. I SHOULDNT have looked at them

It should encourage you!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Yep that is so my luck lol!!

Soo where are your glasses then?

[TTC5]

TTC5 those girl clothes are so so cute it makes me sad looking at them. I SHOULDNT have looked at them

Oh no I'm so sorry big big hugs xxxxxx

[TTC5]

Soo where are your glasses then?

I can't find them HAHAHAHAHA

[JoannaK]

Soo where are your glasses then?

Butterfly your boys are GORGEOUS!!!!!!! They look really similar in looks too, but they're not twins are they?

[Butterfly Spirit]

Butterfly your boys are GORGEOUS!!!!!!! They look really similar in looks too, but they're not twins are they?

Thank you !! And no, they are 18 months apart but people ask DH and I all the time if they are twins! :)

[TTC5]

Like my younger two they get twins all the time too!!

[JoannaK]

Thank you !! And no, they are 18 months apart but people ask DH and I all the time if they are twins! :)

lol Yes!!! My first two are 11 months apart and I get asked all the time if they're twins! I'm going to pack in soon and get some sleep, I'm so hyped up! LOL