TTC Girl - June 2012

[myGirl]

I'm so sorry Suregena, BFNs are the pits, especially after all you've been through. Take a couple days to mope and have a cheat day, it will help!

I stopped Vitex last cycle and did soy iso 160mg CD 3-7. I had a strong ovulation on CD 12 and we had 4 attempts right before so I was sure I was PG... nope. I am 40 though, so a big difference from a spring chicken like you! I also used Zyrtec daily and it dried ALL my cm up, so I am dropping it this cycle.

I'm no expert, but I would think the soy would be great for you, esp. If you take if early in your cycle, b/c it will cause a huge surge in your hormones when you stop it, thus encouraging ovulation soon after... just my theory. I'm taking it again this cycle 200mg CD 5-9, under the theory that taking it later will make a higher quality egg. I'm on CD 8, I will keep you updated.

Don't give up June/July yet, hopefully AF will be here soon and you will def. ovulate before your trip... Then you can eat freely. Hopefully you will be PG! Also these are neutral swaying months, not boy months... No one is even sure seasons make any difference, compared to diet it is a minor consideration.

[mydream]

trying to catch up ont he boards...

sorry suregena ! I am still praying you get your BFP soon!

Good luck to all of you

[suregena]

Thank you, mygirl! Fingers crossed for you this cycle! I hope the soy does the trick!

[auroara78]

so sorry to hear about the BFN!

I would def. drop vitex completely and try the soy. I also still think you could be a little less hard on the diet...it may make it easier to get pg...just be sensible about it :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

B.F.N.
I had a feeling as my temp was a little lower. Don't think it could properly keeping going. Definitely a chemical then. What a drag...

UGH! Surgena, sweetie, I was SO Sure you would get your BFP, I am so sorry hon! Not that I know anything about temps because I don't but couldn't it be that it's too early? Those internet cheapies are very sensitive.
I say it's not over until you see AF. I cramped the day before AF was due and at the end of the day spotting, but it was my BFP. You could also use progesterone as an insurance.. it's like taking extra money when you go on vacation
it doesn't harm, it can only help. I wish you the BEST of luck for July hon. Don't give up! If I were you though, I'd stop temping, just do OPKs.. I think temping stresses you ladies out WAAAY too much, I know it would me. :(
How long have you done Vitex? You could try a cycle without it?
Just do OPKs and have "fun" with hubby, and see what happens!!!!! ;)

PS here's why I recommend progesterone:
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/Faqs/Temperature-Just-After-Ovulation-and-Pregnancy.html

[suregena]

I don't even know where to get Progesterone. :/

It's a good theory, though... because, honestly (and I can't stop thinking about this...)... my first two pregnancies were miscarraiges (I got pregnant both times the first month, like my third and successful pregnancy, and like this chemical.)

The first miscarriage, I waited 8(!!!) months to try again, and only to end up with a second miscarriage. It was then that I said, "I DON'T CARE!!!!" and we ended up conceiving my son without even trying before my cycle returned. Probably from one BD.

My lining probably beefed up a little because of the second lost pregnancy so might have still been a little rich in there?

Because, here I am, obviously SOMETHING was trying to implant because I DO have positive tests from 8DPO to 10DPO that then gradually fade to today's BFN.

The one difference is this time I'm on this diet, so perhaps my lining was even WORSE than the first two pregnancies, so it didn't even get a real good start.

I must just in general have a weak lining... is it because I'm already vegetarian as it is? Who knows?!

Maybe the soy will help... or something. I know I cannot take Red Raspberry leaf while on soy... BUT! could I start drinking it NOW and stop it when I start the soy? That might be an idea for my uterine lining, right?

[Babyy Love]

I don't even know where to get Progesterone. :/

It's a good theory, though... because, honestly (and I can't stop thinking about this...)... my first two pregnancies were miscarraiges (I got pregnant both times the first month, like my third and successful pregnancy, and like this chemical.)

The first miscarriage, I waited 8(!!!) months to try again, and only to end up with a second miscarriage. It was then that I said, "I DON'T CARE!!!!" and we ended up conceiving my son without even trying before my cycle returned. Probably from one BD.

My lining probably beefed up a little because of the second lost pregnancy so might have still been a little rich in there?

Because, here I am, obviously SOMETHING was trying to implant because I DO have positive tests from 8DPO to 10DPO that then gradually fade to today's BFN.

The one difference is this time I'm on this diet, so perhaps my lining was even WORSE than the first two pregnancies, so it didn't even get a real good start.

I must just in general have a weak lining... is it because I'm already vegetarian as it is? Who knows?!

Maybe the soy will help... or something. I know I cannot take Red Raspberry leaf while on soy... BUT! could I start drinking it NOW and stop it when I start the soy? That might be an idea for my uterine lining, right?

So sorry Surgena I was only taking folic acid and decided to stop Vitex
Maybe try "naturally" conceiving without any vitamins whatsoever unless you NEED it. I wish u so much luck the next cycle ;)

[Ribbons]

Suregena, there is a thread here about helping implantation: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-girl/10414-helping-implantation-3.html - At the very end of the thread, I listed out all of the things I did. I'm not sure if it helped or not, but it certainly didn't hurt! (I have a history of chemicals, so I really wanted to help my little egg.)

Good luck!!

[suregena]

Suregena, there is a thread here about helping implantation: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-girl/10414-helping-implantation-3.html - At the very end of the thread, I listed out all of the things I did. I'm not sure if it helped or not, but it certainly didn't hurt! (I have a history of chemicals, so I really wanted to help my little egg.)

Good luck!!

Good ideas, Ribbons! So even if I do soy this cycle, I could take up drinking red raspberry leaf, etcetera, during ovulation? Just because I read soy + mixing a list of a lot of other stuff was a no-no. But I guess since soy is before ovulation at the beginning of the cycle, it'd be okay!

Doi. I really should have drunk it after I ovulated. :( That would have been a novel idea. Ugh. Oh well.

I've had a real pity party today... I've eaten one too many cookies, I really packed it in during breakfast, and I'm eating burritos with cheese for dinner. I also just got a package from my mom from the States containing one of my most loved candy bars which contains a whopping 20g of fat in it. I am staring at it, though... it may take me to 150g of fat consumed today (that's a crazy guess... I swear!) or some insanity like that, but if not today.... when?! *eyes it, strongly*

I hope the soy gets here before AF does. I have AF-y feelings today. :(

[Lassie1982]

That's some awesome info there ribbons, thank you!

My opk was negative today. Hopefully it means I ovulated in the late hours of yesterday or early hours of today. I had a slight temp dip yesterday and it was back up today.
We got an extra attempt in last night, and another this morning. DH won't be able to go again tonight, but all being well we should have had enough attempts in, 5 in total.


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[Ribbons]

Hey Gena, I mentioned this on FB as well but a word of caution about rrl tea that I have learned since (I drank it for implantation) is that some people shy away from it in early pg b/c it *may* cause uterine contractions. My midwife has prescribed it to me, however - 1 cup a day in 1st and 2nd trimester, and 2x a day in third. So I think less is more with the stuff. If I had it to do over, I think I would limit it to only 1 cup a day. :) You could also drink it from O to 6-7DPO too, I think, if you were really worried about it - you'd get the benefit you needed before implantation, but not actually while implantation occurs, if that makes sense. Just my Google med school training opinion (as atomic would say) lol

[Ribbons]

Sounds great Lassie! I have my fx crossed for you!

This spring and summer seem to be extra fertile for at least my circle of friends... practically everyone I know is pregnant. Maybe it's all the funky 2012 astrology stuff going on :) I know it won't be long for all of you! Baby dust!!

[suregena]

That's a good idea, Ribbons! Thank you!

[suregena]

I've been cramping mildly all day. AF, show up already. I keep checking and nothing. Just ewcm nearly!

[KraizyDaizy]

Surgena, your temps are still above the cover-line, so I am crossing my fingers for you that you will get your BFP!

[suregena]

Boy, that'd be lucky going...

[suregena]

My cervix is low, it's got some cm that is like ewcm, and it feels almost pointing up and not straight down. I don't know what's going on. *shrug* I've been on the lookout for AF all day because it feels like it. No spotting and nothing on cervix yet, though.

I don't know.

[suregena]

I am SOOOO bloated today. This is ridiculous. Why is nothing ever easy and simple with me?!

[Mochagirl]

Suregena - you may still have a chance this cycle - bloating and cramps are always the first sign of pregnancy for me. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

[Emily]

I am SOOOO bloated today. This is ridiculous. Why is nothing ever easy and simple with me?!

Hi Suregena,

I haven't answered one of your messages before and am quite new here so forgive me if this is overstepping as a stranger! Your posts sound just like a friend of mine who took a while to conceive after her son and had a couple of false starts before getting her lovely daughter. As I said to her, your body has done it once so it knows what to do. I really hope you get your BFP this time but if not, it WILL come! Fingers crossed for you x

[Lassie1982]

Maybe try to the qtip test suregena - might give some clue as to wether or not AF is just round the corner or not?
*hugs* its horrible when our bodies just confuse the buggery out of us.
Have you done any more tests?

[Lassie1982]

huge temp spike today, so i think i might its possible ov day was CD13?

Temps and opk's below

I will do another OPK this afternoon, but if its negative it should be safe to call CD13 ov day? ( i just need to know wether we need to DTD anymore)

CD June OPK
4 = 97.21
5 = 97.38
6 = 97.17
7 = 97.24
8 = 97.02
9 = 97.05
10 = 96.63
11 = 97.15 NEG
12 = 97.51 POS
13 = 97.28 NEG
14 = 97.69

[suregena]

Maybe try to the qtip test suregena - might give some clue as to wether or not AF is just round the corner or not?
*hugs* its horrible when our bodies just confuse the buggery out of us.
Have you done any more tests?

No, but I may tomorrow morning just to finally put it out of my head. :/

[suregena]

Suregena - you may still have a chance this cycle - bloating and cramps are always the first sign of pregnancy for me. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

Me, as well. That's why I feel so conflicted and confused. It's either my body trying to usher out the chemical or taking it's sweet time to rice hcg. I'm not feeling hopeful for some reason. I'd *like* to be, but, eh.

The bloating has thrown me off so much today that I looked back at my tests and my 13dpo one, which I thought was barely there, is actually about the same as my 9dpo test. So I, like a goofball, held my FRER to the window and could make out only a mere shadow but couldn't *actually* see it, so being that was 14dpo, I do just have the feeling it's just a chemical. But it sure plays mind games on me.

I should have expected it (a chemical), really. I always get pregnant easily the first month, but like twice before my son, I've never seemed to have an easy time with them sticking around for long! :(

I'm going to take another test in the morning, though, to be sure. However, I won't be busting out the FRER. I may just use the IC. I don't want to waste that and rather hold onto it + the two digitals for next go round.

[Ribbons]

huge temp spike today, so i think i might its possible ov day was CD13?

Temps and opk's below

I will do another OPK this afternoon, but if its negative it should be safe to call CD13 ov day? ( i just need to know wether we need to DTD anymore)

CD June OPK
4 = 97.21
5 = 97.38
6 = 97.17
7 = 97.24
8 = 97.02
9 = 97.05
10 = 96.63
11 = 97.15 NEG
12 = 97.51 POS
13 = 97.28 NEG
14 = 97.69

Yep, I think it's safe to say that CD13 is O day based on that info.

[KraizyDaizy]

Suregena,
If and I say if you don't end up with a BFP this cycle, are you going to change to vaginal temping? weren't you temping orally? I would say your temps will be more accurate doing it vaginally. Just a thought....

[suregena]

Suregena,
If and I say if you don't end up with a BFP this cycle, are you going to change to vaginal temping? weren't you mouth temping? I would say your temps will be more accurate doing it vaginally. Just a thought....

Yeah, I may do... if I know what/how to properly do it!

[lightofmylifexxxy]

Suregena - good luck to you - just read your posts, and I really hope it works out this month, if not theres always next month x (thats what my husband would say, so always made me feel better)

Lassie - fingers crossed for you too - really hope you caught that egg! xx

[Lassie1982]

crap - this afternoon OPK looks positive. Test line seems to be as dark as the control line.
just when you think you have it sorted! Grrrrr DH will not be happy, don't know if he will be able to DTD again.

[suregena]

I was running late this morning so I had to 'pee and run' so I have no idea what's on the test... figures. Probably nothing but I'll see when I get home.

Why is my temp so zigzag?

[Lassie1982]

just did a second OPK, definitely positive

[Lassie1982]

I was running late this morning so I had to 'pee and run' so I have no idea what's on the test... figures. Probably nothing but I'll see when I get home.

Why is my temp so zigzag?

No idea on the zigzag but just wanted to say good luck!

What time to you get home?

[Lassie1982]

just did a second OPK, definitely positive

There is no point to this post, but i just have to vent and this is the only place i can do it.
Told DH about the positive OPK, and how we should try and DTD again tonight. Boy oh Boy was he pissy about it!!
I know that the whole DTD regimentally is hard for him, i get that, but i have gone to lots of efforts to make it as interesting and pleasurable for him as possible. Anyone would think i was asking him to pull teeth, all I'm asking for is another BD.
He could tell i wasn't pleased with his reaction so he goes off on one about how hard it is, and we have done it 6 times in 5 days and how difficult it is for him, and all i have to do is lie there blah blah...Im kinda hurt, because i havnt just been *lying there* i have made an effort, a lot of effort, and every single time he has made it feel like the worst chore in the world having to BD, poor him! But you know what - it aint all a bag of laughs for me either - i've been on the diet for 6 months, and yes its still a challenge. And i stick to it, but its hard, dam hard. For 5 cycles i have felt like a barren failure because i just can't get pregnant.

I guees we are both just at the end of our tether. DH has been great, he really has, but this month he is just over it, so over it

[suregena]

Sooo sorry. :( how awful. I lost count how many times we BD'd in a row. Hubby didn't mind it at all and only struggled a little a day he FR twice prior and had several ales at night before so he was a little tipsy. Would he rather just do it in a cup (less pressure?) and you immediately insert it??

I'm having my hubby take a photo of this morning's test and email me it at work... cannot concentrate at all!

[Mochagirl]

Good luck, suregena! Remember that lines often aren't as visible in a picture, though!

[Ribbons]

Suregena, when you get the test pic, post it, even if you can't see the lines. I can take it into photoshop and "tweak" it to see if anything shows up... I did that with a few of my really early test results.

[dramabird]

DH has been great, he really has, but this month he is just over it, so over it

Lassie, we were in a very similar place, except that my DH wasn't so much pissy as despondent. During our third cycle, he had some performance issues (I had him doing FR twice a day, so he got super worn out) and that totally got to his head. And of course the more he worried, the harder it was to perform.

Even into fourth cycle, when we decreased FR by 25 percent, even the first couple of times DTD were tricky (again, totally psychological). So I basically had to take over ... start things off orally and then have DTD be with me on top. The oral was partially to let him relax and help rev up Mr. Happy, but also because we dropped Sylk and I was going to need *something* to allow for reasonably comfortable entry (because if I showed any sign of discomfort, that's all it would have taken for Mr. Happy to leave the party!).

So I wonder if that would help? It would let your DH just "lay there" instead (ha!) and it would let you put on a bit more of a show, which might increase his feelings of goodwill. Men are more visual than we are, so seeing the lady up top can be provocative for them. And my understanding is that woman on top is quite a viable pink-sway position (here's hoping so, anyway!).

You've already gotten some great attempts in, which will help your chances of pg, while still doing lots of pink sway stuff. This could totally be your month!!!! :fx:

I can't remember -- are you temping so that you'll be able to confirm when O officially happens?

[heavenlee]

It's been two cycles and I still haven't gotten pregnant. I thought for sure I would be this last time because I thought I got the timing good, but I must have used too many swaying things. I stopped the diet because I thought I would have gotten pregnant (with my other two it was preggers at first try). It's soooo frustrating! I can't imagine how dificult it must be for those of you who have been at it even longer. I keep my fingers crossed for us all.

I wanted to try again this coming cycle but it is a boy month on the chinese calendar. My husband believes in this calendar because a lot of his female friends got girls during girl months. So I don't know if we should just skip this month or just go for it. I would definitely wait if I had the time (because of the boy month and falling off the diet), but I'm in a rush because of my age (I'm 40). Arggh, don't know what to do!

[HopeandDreamG]

Haven't had a chance to catch up on post yet. I just called doc because HPTS are still negative and AF is one week late. I spotted 11 days ago. I called for something to start AF. I have NEVER EVER BEEN LATE EVER. The nurse practitioner said I could be pregnant, going for blood work in 5 minutes, she said they have had women throughout the pregnancy's that get negatvie HPTs. Really??? I still have no hope, but interesting!! Will know on Monday!

[dramabird]

Heavenlee, I wouldn't worry about calendars at all. All you have to do is look at a local hospital's baby webpage and you'll see lots of boys and girls born every month. If it were as easy as "get pg this month, have this gender," nobody would have ever have to sway or have GD.

I would return to the diet ASAP. That's the thing that seems to sway the hardest. It's the other things that might be standing in the way of pg that I would consider dropping instead (maybe drop antihistamines OR RepHresh OR Sylk ... I'm not sure what you're actually incorporating into your sway, but those are standard early inclusions in a pink sway that people start dropping when they can't conceive).

Getting pg in a pink sway is more challenging ... but it also means you're suppressing fertility, which is what you want for a pink sway. It's tricky. I only just got my BFP a week and a half ago, on my fourth cycle trying. I got pg in my second cycle with both my kids.

Also, you do want to keep your age in mind. Crummy as it is, our fertility does change as we get older. So you don't want to waste too many months on things like Chinese calendar, only to find yourself unable to get pg at all. As Atomic says, you can't your desired gender if you can't get pg.

So, yep, I'd say get back on the diet, ignore the calendar, and consider what non-diet parts of your sway might be droppable. GL!!

[dramabird]

Haven't had a chance to catch up on post yet. I just called doc because HPTS are still negative and AF is one week late. I spotted 11 days ago. I called for something to start AF. I have NEVER EVER BEEN LATE EVER. The nurse practitioner said I could be pregnant, going for blood work in 5 minutes, she said they have had women throughout the pregnancy's that get negatvie HPTs. Really??? I still have no hope, but interesting!! Will know on Monday!

Eeeee! FX for you!!

[heavenlee]

Heavenlee, I wouldn't worry about calendars at all. All you have to do is look at a local hospital's baby webpage and you'll see lots of boys and girls born every month. If it were as easy as "get pg this month, have this gender," nobody would have ever have to sway or have GD.

I would return to the diet ASAP. That's the thing that seems to sway the hardest. It's the other things that might be standing in the way of pg that I would consider dropping instead (maybe drop antihistamines OR RepHresh OR Sylk ... I'm not sure what you're actually incorporating into your sway, but those are standard early inclusions in a pink sway that people start dropping when they can't conceive).

Getting pg in a pink sway is more challenging ... but it also means you're suppressing fertility, which is what you want for a pink sway. It's tricky. I only just got my BFP a week and a half ago, on my fourth cycle trying. I got pg in my second cycle with both my kids.

You guys here are so great and encouraging! I hope we all get our little girls!

Also, you do want to keep your age in mind. Crummy as it is, our fertility does change as we get older. So you don't want to waste too many months on things like Chinese calendar, only to find yourself unable to get pg at all. As Atomic says, you can't your desired gender if you can't get pg.

So, yep, I'd say get back on the diet, ignore the calendar, and consider what non-diet parts of your sway might be droppable. GL!!

Thanks dramabird! You're right, we should just forget about that calendar. I actually just got off the phone with DH at work and he agreed to just forget about the calendar and try again this coming cycle. I just got back on the diet and think I'll do away with the Zyrtec this month and see how that goes.

I know because of my age it will make it harder to get pregnant. I just kept thinking that we could get pregnant quick as always. Doesn't always happen right.

[cravingsalt]

Can I join in? :trips:

I am officially in the 2ww, but not sure if I’m on 2dpo or 5 dpo. I had a really weird cycle; positive opk almost a week early, dtd at what I thought was -2 and -1 but never had a temp rise. Took another opk the first day I would’ve expected my temp rise, it was completely negative. Two days and no temp rise later, did another one and caught a strong second line, but not quite positive. I gathered I hadn’t ovulated the first try and wasn’t sure if I was catching a second surge on the way in or out, so went ahead and dtd (after both hubby and I had stopped supplements and I had loosened up on diet, after being SUPER strict for 6 weeks- of course!). Temp rose the next day, so if the second surge was the one I ovulated on it appears that I may have dtd right on top of o, or even o+12 (though I’m not sure that would count for much). On the first set of attempts, DH’s output was super low for him, and I was like the Sahara, so I doubt anything survived all the way to when I actually ovulated way later. On the second attempt it might’ve been too late. Trying to be realistic and not get my hopes up but boy, forgot how painstakingly slow the 2ww goes!

Let me just say to agree with you ladies, not sure if it was the on-demand nature of things, the FR or the licorice root, but hubby was not as gung-ho as usual! It took a little convincing but one of our attempts was totally un…productive. Oh well, hoping for my BFP because this may be our only attempt before letting fiscally-responsible brain taking the reigns. (we’ll see how long that lasts)

Sway included hard core diet/ions/no exercise/compressed FR/replens/magnets (silly, I know)/supplements (cran/acidophilus/dropped the cal, mag halfway through) and prayer.

Fingers crossed!

Appropriate colored dust to all of you ladies!!

[suregena]

I can see a barely-there shadow (already tried photoshopping it, too hard to see. All my tests lined up show a faint positive 9DPO and 10DPO, 13DPO, and then they fade out to practically nothing), like all the others... but at 16dpo, I just think it's no good and on its way out. Soonish.

Now I have to come up with a newish plan. I'm a little pissed off because I've managed to gain like 4lbs?! Argh. Like, seriously, I had ONE day where I was at 1,800 calories (but pretty high in fat) and the other two days were about 1,500-1,600... and, here I am! And this is why my diet has to stay at the bare minimum of calorie intake to shift anything. :()

I'm trying to breathe and think positive. I know that I couldn't go on for more than three months, so I hope I can get it this go.

*DH 1x a day licorice root
*DH FR at least once and up to 3x a day starting possibly CD3 or more towards the end of my cycle (last time he started CD5.)
*Hot baths when he wants

*I do soy isoflavones CD3-7... although I am CLUELESS of what dosage... input, anyone? What the most ideal dosage?
*Diet (obviously, though I have to shift whatever this weight is I've got pronto, ugh... my body doesn't do weight loss very well! It has a number it likes to sit at and a few 'cheat' days, not even bad ones, have totally screwed me.)
*I will use antihistamines every day, possibly from end of AF, to counteract the possible increase of EWCM from the soy.
*I have one tube of repHresh I think I may use between all the BDs + what the soy could be doing with EWCM
*I am thinking of drinking 1 cup of red raspberry leaf tea to help my lining around ovulation for maybe only 5 days, and stop before implantation?
*Unsure where to go with peppermint tea. Might be overkill?

Any input for a vegetarian guy and gal trying to make a girl baby? :P
And I hate that I just seem to be prone to have a lot of early losses. Ugh.

Still cramping but no AF yet.

[Lassie1982]

Lassie, we were in a very similar place, except that my DH wasn't so much pissy as despondent. During our third cycle, he had some performance issues (I had him doing FR twice a day, so he got super worn out) and that totally got to his head. And of course the more he worried, the harder it was to perform.

Even into fourth cycle, when we decreased FR by 25 percent, even the first couple of times DTD were tricky (again, totally psychological). So I basically had to take over ... start things off orally and then have DTD be with me on top. The oral was partially to let him relax and help rev up Mr. Happy, but also because we dropped Sylk and I was going to need *something* to allow for reasonably comfortable entry (because if I showed any sign of discomfort, that's all it would have taken for Mr. Happy to leave the party!).

So I wonder if that would help? It would let your DH just "lay there" instead (ha!) and it would let you put on a bit more of a show, which might increase his feelings of goodwill. Men are more visual than we are, so seeing the lady up top can be provocative for them. And my understanding is that woman on top is quite a viable pink-sway position (here's hoping so, anyway!).

You've already gotten some great attempts in, which will help your chances of pg, while still doing lots of pink sway stuff. This could totally be your month!!!! :fx:

I can't remember -- are you temping so that you'll be able to confirm when O officially happens?

Thanks Drama - its so good to know that there are those who completely understand :)
Yes I'm temping, here are my temps. I thought I had o'd on CD 13.
But then i have had +opk's yesterday, and a slight temp drop today so now i have no idea :(

CD June
4 97.21
5 97.38
6 97.17
7 97.24
8 97.02
9 97.05
10 96.63
11 97.15
12 97.51
13 97.28
14 97.69
15 97.58

[Lassie1982]

Haven't had a chance to catch up on post yet. I just called doc because HPTS are still negative and AF is one week late. I spotted 11 days ago. I called for something to start AF. I have NEVER EVER BEEN LATE EVER. The nurse practitioner said I could be pregnant, going for blood work in 5 minutes, she said they have had women throughout the pregnancy's that get negatvie HPTs. Really??? I still have no hope, but interesting!! Will know on Monday!

OMG how exciting! Good luck xo

[Lassie1982]

It's been two cycles and I still haven't gotten pregnant. I thought for sure I would be this last time because I thought I got the timing good, but I must have used too many swaying things. I stopped the diet because I thought I would have gotten pregnant (with my other two it was preggers at first try). It's soooo frustrating! I can't imagine how dificult it must be for those of you who have been at it even longer. I keep my fingers crossed for us all.

I wanted to try again this coming cycle but it is a boy month on the chinese calendar. My husband believes in this calendar because a lot of his female friends got girls during girl months. So I don't know if we should just skip this month or just go for it. I would definitely wait if I had the time (because of the boy month and falling off the diet), but I'm in a rush because of my age (I'm 40). Arggh, don't know what to do!


I agree with Drama - chuck the calendar out the window! Goodluck :luck:

[Lassie1982]

i upgrading to VIP on fertility friend.
It says i ovulated on cd11 ?!?!?!

[Ribbons]

Bummer suregena, I noticed your temp dropped below the coverline this am :(
I'm glad things are moving along though, so you can gear up for next month.
:hug2:

[Praying4Pink]

Hi can I join in too? I am either 4 or 5 DPO today. I purchased a whole bunch of IC preg tests so I will probably end up driving myself crazy this month by testing. I usually wait until 4 days before AF is due but I am goin to be flying to Texas for 2 weeks and I have to know before we go! Lol.

[KraizyDaizy]

Suregena, fingers crossed, your temp is above cover-line this morning!!!

[NCBeachyGrl]

AF showed for me today so it is officially cycle day 1...our 1st TTC cycle! Hopefully everything will go as planned. It does seem that my cycles are getting shorter. I usually have a 28 day and it went from 27 days now to 25 days so I think I am O'ing around CD12 or 13 so I am going to plan for that.

[suregena]

Suregena, fingers crossed, your temp is above cover-line this morning!!!

Ha, baaarely! My cervix is confusing me. :( It feels VERY wet in there... like, a crazy abunance of CM. I don't get it.

I drank RRL tea yesterday (don't ask me why) and it gave me twinges just after consuming it. Er, I'll not touch it just in case. I don't know. I feel like I should go to the doctor seeing as it's 18dpo and no AF yet... maybe to see if they can fill in a blood test form for me (I work at the hospital so it's easy for me to hop over to get a blood test!)

:/

[suregena]

And for the record--all previous symptoms have now ceased to be! So I just have zero hope that this was ever healthy and sticking.

[Lassie1982]

Ha, baaarely! My cervix is confusing me. :( It feels VERY wet in there... like, a crazy abunance of CM. I don't get it.

I drank RRL tea yesterday (don't ask me why) and it gave me twinges just after consuming it. Er, I'll not touch it just in case. I don't know. I feel like I should go to the doctor seeing as it's 18dpo and no AF yet... maybe to see if they can fill in a blood test form for me (I work at the hospital so it's easy for me to hop over to get a blood test!)

:/

Yes - do that, get a blood test. I still think its odd that you havnt had AF turn up yet.
ANd as much as it seems incredibly unlikely that you o'd on cd 34, it not entirely out of the realm of possibility.
You're best best is to rule things out one by one. So i would definitely get the blood test.

[suregena]

The frustration I feel right now is immense. This sort of *insanity* only happens whilst swaying (it's what it feels like to me because, seriously... the one other time I attempted to sway Dec/Jan cycle, this exact confusing nonsense happened... it's like my body just cannot *deal* with it. But I'm stubborn and will carry on and hope that the soy isoflavones is my ticket to get the show on the road. Sigh...)

My day in and day out normalcy never made me have a weird cycle. I had no cycle due to breastfeeding then I slowly weaned *myself* (not my son) from pumping at work and that brought my cycle right back (because I wanted to get ready to TTC #2.)

First attempt was Dec/Jan attempt. I just didn't seem to be Oing after being on the diet + vitex. And we gave up (so I don't technically count that as a TTC cycle in the end.) My AF showed up CD55... when my cycle was 28 days the month before.

Same thing this time... my last cycle was 29 days. Now since diet, we're heading into CD55+ territory again! It's really making me want to bang my head against the wall......

[Ribbons]

I'm so sorry suregena! How frustrating. I also find it odd that it's carrying on like this, but cautiously optimistic that it means something good... an absence of symptoms does not necessarily mean it isn't viable. I was going to suggest a blood test too... that should def. give you some answers. And if you felt like the RRL tea was causing any trouble, it's best to steer clear... I never felt anything like "twinges" so who knows...

[suregena]

I really hope I didn't ovulate on CD34 (even though it'd be pretty impossible to get pregnant from then, anyway, since we last BD'd CD28) because I know I probably put on 2lbs. Urgh.

I don't know, sigh...

[dannikins]

hey everyone. just thought i would check in on everyone.
sorry ive kind of forgot about this thread

also an update for anyone who missed my birth announcement.
my baby GIRL ,Sasha Maree, was born on june 5. weighing 7pound 10 ounces
i still cant believe we fluked a girl.


good luck to everyone still ttc. im proof miracles do happen...:)

[suregena]

She's beaaaautiful! :)

[dramabird]

Congratulations, Dannikins. Loooooove the blue ruffles ... what a perfect way to bring your little girl into the mix!!

[maybeoneday]

Congratulations Dannikins, she is beautiful and stories like yours give me hope for a fluked girl!!!

Take care and enjoy her! xx

[KraizyDaizy]

Dannikans I am so jealous!!! She is beautiful!!!

[KraizyDaizy]

Suregena, nice temp rise there! Get bloods drawn I say!!!

[suregena]

I think my body is a cruel, cruel thing!

[Ribbons]

Dannikins, such a beautiful little girl! You waited to find out, right? (I can't remember) What a beautiful surprise!!!

[auroara78]

Ribbons, just looked at your blog, and the food looks so yummy...dumb question bout what does WAPF stand for? I may have even misspelled it! And I can't believe you have that much time/effort to make delicious wholesome meals with MS!!

[suregena]

Yeah, I just went and looked too - seriously yummy (except for the meat stuff, which I don't eat... however that Thai soup looks DIVINE so I'll forget for a moment it includes fish and may come up with a vegetarian alternative for when I can eat normally again! :P)

[Ribbons]

Ribbons, just looked at your blog, and the food looks so yummy...dumb question bout what does WAPF stand for? I may have even misspelled it! And I can't believe you have that much time/effort to make delicious wholesome meals with MS!!

WAPF stands for "Weston A Price Foundation" (westonaprice.org)... it's a traditional way of eating that stays away from processed foods and focuses on whole, organic products directly from the source. A lot of WAPFers are small farmers - large gardens, raise chickens, goats etc. Very different guidelines from modern eating - high fat (much of it saturated), high protein, low carb, lots of butter :) ie - exactly OPPOSITE of LE, I don't think you could get more opposite. I hope that worked in my favor!!!

Trust me, the m/s has DEFINITELY kept me from cooking as much :) I'm posting recipes like once a week now (normally I'd be posting daily!) It's easing up a bit, though, thankfully.

[Ribbons]

Yeah, I just went and looked too - seriously yummy (except for the meat stuff, which I don't eat... however that Thai soup looks DIVINE so I'll forget for a moment it includes fish and may come up with a vegetarian alternative for when I can eat normally again! :P)

You can make it with tofu and/or mushrooms too!!! I made it for a vegan friend once :)

[suregena]

Yummyyyyy. After initial post-early pregnancy food binging prior to morning sickness, I'd like to start eating as many unprocessed foods as possible.

[dramabird]

Trust me, the m/s has DEFINITELY kept me from cooking as much :) I'm posting recipes like once a week now (normally I'd be posting daily!) It's easing up a bit, though, thankfully.

You're dealing with morning sickness too, Ribbons? My DH says I'm insufferable each time I'm pregnant, but I swear I don't remember feeling this crummy the other times. I'm not throwing up or anything, but I pretty much feel carsick 24/7. It seems like with my other two pregnancies eating would make me feel better for awhile, but this time around I only feel better ~while~ I'm eating. Pretty much as soon as I swallow my last bite, the urpy feelings are back.

The nausea subsided around week 11 for both of my other kids ... so only a month to go. :shrug: I know that it's good because A) it means I'm pregnant (160+ days on the diet was enough) and B) that it ~hopefully~ means the hormones are doing what they should and that things are progressing well. But still ... queasiness is gross.

[Ribbons]

You're dealing with morning sickness too, Ribbons? My DH says I'm insufferable each time I'm pregnant, but I swear I don't remember feeling this crummy the other times. I'm not throwing up or anything, but I pretty much feel carsick 24/7. It seems like with my other two pregnancies eating would make me feel better for awhile, but this time around I only feel better ~while~ I'm eating. Pretty much as soon as I swallow my last bite, the urpy feelings are back.

The nausea subsided around week 11 for both of my other kids ... so only a month to go. :shrug: I know that it's good because A) it means I'm pregnant (160+ days on the diet was enough) and B) that it ~hopefully~ means the hormones are doing what they should and that things are progressing well. But still ... queasiness is gross.

It was really bad from about week 5-7 - constant seasickness-type feeling - but this past week I've been feeling much better. Haven't thrown up though. (I didn't with DS2 either.) I'm a little worried about it b/c of the old wives' tales of morning sickness = girls, and this is definitely the easiest I've had it! However, DS1 was AWFUL, I had m/s all the way through the 7th month.

Now I'm mainly just "iffy" about certain foods, and my cravings are weird. I'm living on fruit, cheese and homemade soup. No eggs or chicken, but I can stomach spicy asian stuff and vinegary/acidy things just fine.

Sucking on ginger candy helps me too (this kind (http://www.amazon.com/The-Ginger-People-Original-Chews/dp/B000LKX4FW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340032538&sr=8-1&keywords=ginger+people))

[dramabird]

I'm a little worried about it b/c of the old wives' tales of morning sickness = girls, and this is definitely the easiest I've had it!

I'm trying to not let that OWT freak me out, since I feel gross but I'm not vomiting. A good friend of mine was incredibly ill (as in, lost weight her first trimester from throwing up so much ill) with her first pg, which was her son, and her more recent pg, her daughter, she didn't have morning sickness at all. Fatigue and some cramping, but no nausea.

I think we just have to be like Atomic and think scientifically -- it doesn't seem like there would be a scientific, biological reason that the gender of an embryo that is only an 1/8th of an inch long would affect how sick we do or don't feel.

[Mochagirl]

My pregnancies with ds3 and this dd were almost identical symptom-wise - almost no m/s whatsoever. Don't let those OWTs scare you!

[Lassie1982]

i agree - they are just OWT's and there is NO backing behind that theory.
My mum had zero morning sickness with all 3 of us girls and had permanant morning sickness with my brother

[dannikins]

i def had symptoms this pregnancy, that i never had with my boys.

the constant 24 hour a day nausea for the first 14 weeks was one.
worse acne i have ever had in my life the first trimester aswell, i even had pimples on my legs, it was sooo gross.
total lack of appetite, compared to the boys aswell, with the boys i was hungry all the time, but this time i made myself eat because i knew i had too, not because i was hungry. and nothing appealed to me food wise.
and my boobs were the sorest they have ever been too, espeially the nipples, just having a shirt on them would hurt.

then there were other things, like my belly was so much smaller this pregnancy, but my legs and butt retained a lot more fluid.

i know i have only had one girl , but compared to all my boy pregnancies, this was def different...:)

[myGirl]

Congratulations dannikins! I don't know how you were able to wait for the surprise at her birth, I surely would not have the willpower! Enjoy your daughter:HH:

[prayforprincess]

dannikins--
Congrats on your baby daughter! I was thinking of you this morning and wondering if you had given birth yet. That must have been such a surprise. Such a great surprise.
I recal you did not start "swaying" per say --- but I was wondering what your attempt was like conceiving her. I recall you dtd only once 5 days before o. Is that right? Anything else?

[amari]

Congrats, Dannikins! She is so cute!

How is everyone else doing? I miss coming on here as much as I used to. We just got back from a few days at the beach. I am just trying to figure things out right now. I hope everyone is doing great, I will try and come more often! xoxo

[HopeandDreamG]

Dannikins- she's Gorgeous!!!!!! Congrats

[dramabird]

How's everyone doing? Ribbons, how's the nausea treating you? I'm feeling quite green around the gills. Even when I wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, I'm queasy. I'm burping a lot (probably caused in part by the sodas I'm drinking to try to settle my stomach) and I've gagged/dry-heaved twice this morning. Yuck, yuck, yuck. I'm lucky that I have my own office at work, but it's still tricky trying to act normal when interacting with my colleagues, rather than showing that I feel like I might just yak on their shoes. :)

I was sure I would have some time between the LE diet and morning sickness to really enjoy food, but nope. I started having nausea on 14dpo and didn't test until 18dpo ... so now I'm just holding on until late first trimester and will hopefully start to feel good again. Oh, and not that the nausea is preventing weight gain, though ... I'm already up five and a half pounds from when I ovulated!!! I'm hoping that that's just because I was in such a deprivation mode (I was at 95.5 lbs. when I ovulated) that this is simply my body bouncing back, taking advantage of me snacking and eating all day, rather than only twice a day. I still weigh a pinch less than when I conceived my other two kids, so hopefully it'll even out soon, as I approach "normal" early-pregnancy weight.

Barf, barf. How's everyone else doing? Lassie? Kraizy? Surgena? Distract me!! :)

[KraizyDaizy]

Sorry to hear you are feeling bad Dramabird, but that means you bean is growing nicely. CD5 for me, so not much to talk about on my end. We are buying a house, so I am trying to let it get my mind off TTC. I failed on all my clomid cycles and the post clomid cycle so I am feeling like my daughter will never happen.

[auroara78]

Ah KD :hugs:

exciting about the house though! Is it bigger, roamier, dreamier? I've got houses on the brain, though we cant afford to buy an upgraded one yet. Our house is small!

[sweetsister]

Dannikins Congrats on your girl shes gorgeous:awe:
Dramabird hang in there im just coming out of the dark ms tunnel at 12 weeks ,i also drank sodas to help coke and sprite,and then the best was canada dry gingerale,and sour candies.
Kraizy dont give up yet.i really believe your time will come when its the right time for you ,and you will realize any other time wouldn't have fit when you look back on it,i just know you'll get your girl:LotsofLove:

[myGirl]

Hi girls,

I'm 2dpo today and not feeling hopeful at all this month. Just taking it one day at a time.

Kraisy, congrats on the new house! Maybe being distracted by moving is a good thing... It seems like people get PG right when they turn their attention to something else.

So sorry to hear about the ms Dramabird. I get it real bad too, it's just horrible. Hope it goes away soon!

Good to see you Amari, is your ms under control? Hope you are feeling well!

Good luck to everyone! We need some more BFPs!

[Ribbons]

Dramabird, my m/s is doing fine, really, definitely better than I've ever had it. But I still feel 'urpy' pretty much all day and through the night. Kind of like a low-level seasickness. Eating helps a lot. Not so bad as dry-heaving though, sorry! I know how it is to try to hide it at work, been there done that! NO fun. I do think that it was the deprivation that is making us gain so fast... I gained a whopping 5 lbs right away, but it's leveled off a bit thankfully. Still not up to my pre-LE diet weight (but almost there)

Kraisy, congrats! Buying a house is so stressful but so rewarding... how far along are you in the process? We just bought a house here in CA, BIG sticker shock from TX (where our house was literally 2x as big and 1/3 the price!! Crazy!) and now we are settling into the reality of paying this ginormous mortgage for 30 more years... we couldn't afford it on our own, so we are renting out our bottom level, which makes it very affordable but sort of like living in an apartment again. Maybe we should have kept renting... LOL - but I love my house and it was worth all the stress and money for sure!

Amari! I was wondering what happened to you. I can't believe you are already 14 weeks!!

MyGirl, what were your attempts like? Why are you not feeling hopeful?

I hope everyone else is well!

[coocoobananas]

I don't want to jinx myself as theis has never happened before... But I feel ok today. It's still there(m/s) but like soooo close to normal. It may just be today but omg, I will be so thankful!
I am still on Zofran and I have more Accupuncture on Thursday but between that and snacking I think I may have my plan down to feel my best... Let's see if I report back after lunch with a different story lol!
Of course now my stomach is upset for other reasons. My very good friend who just had a mastectomy didn't get good news and I am having a hard time with it. My worries are nothing compared to hers. Sorry to be a downer but largely on my mind that it is making me physically ill:(

[myGirl]

Coocoo, I was just replying to you on the 2ww thread... I think you, Butterfly and Babyy are the only BFPs this month? I just am hoping to see more, more, more!!:)

I'm so glad you are feeling ok, I bet the acupuncture is really helping. I am so sorry to hear about your friend, it is so hard when someone you care about is very ill.

Ribbons, I don't know why I'm not hopeful this month, I had lots of good attempts (4 leading up to O). But I had good attempts last month and BFN, so worrying about my fertility a bit. I'm glad to hear you're feeling ok and things are going well.:)

[Lassie1982]

Sometimes I think it safer to be non hopeful, you come down with less of a crash when you get the bfn! Well , I do anyway.
I'm another not hopeful for this month.
Maybe its because I'm looking forward to a break from swaying. Who knows.
We had a ton of good attempts, but then we had a ton of good attempts the month prior as well an no pregnancy.
I'm actually thinking of maybe getting just the basic routine fertility checks done when we attempt again in a couple of month just to rule out any issues or problems.



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[dannikins]

thanks..:)

no i didnt get to start my sway. but there were things done differently than when my boys were conceived.

we had a one shot deal 5 days before O after 7 days abstinence, and 7 days abstinence before that.
was missionary, in the morning( not planned either, just happend that way) and with a J&D, (also not planned, but i J&D regularly anyway) and a hot shower straight after.

with the boys it was more frequent BD, like almost every day, if not everyday, we did do cut offs for the last 2 boys but obviously they werent long enough.

conception was a different time of year, all the boys were conceived in summer and born in spring.
Sasha was conceived begining of spring, born mid winter.

we both had the flu at the time if her conception too.


i wasnt really sure about the whole timing thing before, since i had 2 boys with a 3 day cutoff, but i guess because im so fertile i just needed a longer cutoff.

im sooooo happy we finally done it, and she is sooooo worth the wait.
its amazing, like i knew i wanted a girl, but i didnt realise how much i wanted her until she was here. i bawled my eyes out when i seen she had girl bits....:)

[HopeandDreamG]

Sorry to hear you are feeling bad Dramabird, but that means you bean is growing nicely. CD5 for me, so not much to talk about on my end. We are buying a house, so I am trying to let it get my mind off TTC. I failed on all my clomid cycles and the post clomid cycle so I am feeling like my daughter will never happen.

Hey your my cycle buddy! I am cd5 too. I have never been in line with you but I week late so here we are!

[amari]

KD-That's exciting to be in a new house, fresh start!

Hope-How's the summer starting off? Any beach time yet? Hope things are good and you are in a positive mind set!

Ribbons-Yes, I am here just not posting as much. I feel extremely blessed, of course, but for some reason when I get on here I start to get anxiety about gender dissapointment. So many people get their desired gender on here which is great, but I feel like it can't be me too. So, I don't come on as much. MS is ok, I take meds everyday, I have to do so my entire pregnancies, I'm use to it! Hope you are well!

Hi to everyone else!

[KraizyDaizy]

Thanks for all the encouragement ladies. I will get over this funk soon I hope. We move in to our new house mid july, so hopefully a new environment and a bedroom DOOR will help as well. We just dont have any privacy here, so its no wonder we have had such a hard time DTD lol!

Hope, glad we r in sync with our cycles. Maybe this will finally be our turn to see two pink lines!

Amari how are the girls growing? U showing by now?

[ILindGurl]

Well ladies...just to recap for any new people, this was the month we had some fertility testing and got the unpleasant news that I have "diminished ovarian reserve" because my FSH measured 20 and my AMH was .4 on D4 of my cycle. We have been trying to conceive since November (I had a chemical in January, and a second chemical in March). I stopped swaying after my first chemical because at 40 years old, I realized I really didn't care as much about gender and would just be so lucky to even conceive another child...and obviously I was right based on the blood test results/FSH/AMH. The ultrasound our RE did on the day of O, showed that I had the GRAND total of 3 follicles this month. Well, AF was due on Monday, but we were on vacation so I figured I would just wait until we got back last night and test this morning to see if another "chemical" was happening and AF was just be late.....and it's a :omg:
BFP!
Funny thing is I ovulated pretty much to the exact date we conceived DS2. I am smiling, but really nervous. I wish I could be jumping up and down, but I'm a bit worried still because my test numbers were soo yucky, I worry about the quality of this egg...I really hope this little bean sticks. I will call my RE and OB today to see if they will do some early betas/testing to make sure it's going okay in there! Thanks to all of you who told me not to give up hope and continued to support me and listen to my journey -- I hope my story gives the rest of you hope! If I can get a BFP at age 40 with FSH of 20 and AMH of .4 so can you and your BFPs will happen soon :)

[KraizyDaizy]

ILindGurl, I told ya those numbers did not mean anything!! So happy for you!!!!! Wonderful news to get first thing this morning!!!!!

[Ribbons]

Congrats ILindGurl!! So exciting!!

[ILindGurl]

Thanks, Kraizy -- I'm still not celebrating yet....I'm so worried because of that damn test (FSH/AMH) which had I never pushed to have done, I wouldn't even have known about! Maybe I will feel better after seeing a heartbeat or something.

My RE's office was so nice and said they would monitor the pregnancy since usually the OBs don't see you until much further along. So, I'm going for the initial beta testing tomorrow morning :) I will keep you all posted -- please stick little guy, please stick!

[HopeandDreamG]

Ilundgirl- congrats!!! That's great :) stay positive

Amari- u have 2 girls no worries there. U were on clomid and diet your all good ;). Obviously the clomid worked u had 2 eggs and it so sways girl. Yes at beach all the time! Diet is so much harder but doing it. Veggie burgers on the grill and lettuce for me. It's the no snacking when everyones drinking and having cheese and crackers! Ugh

[myGirl]

Congratulations ILindGirl! What wonderful news:HH:

I'm thinking of you and praying for a sticky, healthy bean!

[Lassie1982]

Congratulations iLinggurl :cheer:

dannikins - such a gorgeous photo!!!! Congrats, what a lovely surprise!!

Kraizy - so sorry to hear you are down :( BUt good news about the house! That will certainly be able to help you take your mind of things, a change is as good as a holiday, and this might be just the change you need to start yourself on a pregnancy journey. Thinking of you and honestly hoping for some really positive news for you soon xo

[Butterfly Spirit]

Amari the skulls are two different shapes to me! :) Maybe you got your girl for SURE!
How cute they are!

[Butterfly Spirit]

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I removed your info sweetie! :)

[Lassie1982]

I'm as amateur as they come amari, but the top baby looks like a very girly skull to me!


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[dannikins]

I agree top skull looks like my dd at her nt scan.

[Butterfly Spirit]

I agree top skull looks like my dd at her nt scan.

Awww Dani, your daughter is ADORABLE! :)
I hope you are having a blast with her. JK, I know you are!

[amari]

Ok, try this again, here is the u/s from a week or two ago, one baby on top, second on the bottom, if you want to see.

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[auroara78]

I think baby A is a girl for sure. Not too certain about baby B ...about 50/50 on that one.

[ILindGurl]

First beta results are in...RE said those were good numbers. We go for an ultrasound tomorrow to hopefully see ONE gestational sac ;)

Put the test results in my sig. I honestly have no idea what those numbers mean....anyone know?

[HopeandDreamG]

Ilindgirl- those are great #s!! Twins perhaps ;)

[fish2012]

ILindGur congratulations! hoping for a :giggle: for you x

[HopeandDreamG]

Check this put:
http://www.betabase.info/showBasicChart.php?type=Single

[ILindGurl]

HopeandDreamG -- OMG, I hope it's not twins...I don't think I could handle that! But funny you say that because my husband joked last night about "our 4 boys"...and the nurse at RE office was silent when I asked "those are good numbers for a single pregnancy, right?". Then she just said "well, we will see tomorrow at the ultrasound, right?". I am sooo nervous....but I guess there's nothing I can do about it now. it is what it is!

[Ribbons]

HopeandDreamG -- OMG, I hope it's not twins...I don't think I could handle that! But funny you say that because my husband joked last night about "our 4 boys"...and the nurse at RE office was silent when I asked "those are good numbers for a single pregnancy, right?". Then she just said "well, we will see tomorrow at the ultrasound, right?". I am sooo nervous....but I guess there's nothing I can do about it now. it is what it is!

uh-oh... my beta on 18dpo was close to that! but I only had one corpus luteum, so unless they are identical, mine can't be twins... now you have me worried lol

[HopeandDreamG]

Your having an ultra sound on a Saturday? I can't wait to hear!!! I guess going to an RE gave you some luck!!

[ILindGurl]

HopeandDreamsG -- yes, RE brought me so much good luck! It was funny because I called them to say that I was suppose to call to schedule all the bloodwork for me and DH once AF arrived, but I got BFP instead! I keep calling him my good luck charm!

Ribbons -- don't worry! Actually you make me feel better that you had similar #s. According to what I've seen online boards, there is a lot of variation in the numbers...and when they did my ultrasound on O day, he only saw one corpus luteum. So, probably not twins -- we just have higher numbers...which hopefully means girls! :)

[HopeandDreamG]

Well it for sure means sticky bean ;)

[Ribbons]

Well, this morning sickness is sure saying "sticky bean" to me LOL... ugh, can't wait for the end of the first trimester!

[HopeandDreamG]

Awe ribbons that's terrible! Just keep reminding yourself it's a sticky bean ;)

Ilindgirl- thinking of you !

[ILindGurl]

Thanks! We could only see the dark circular indication of the gestational sac. The Dr said he is 90% happy, but it's measuring a little smaller than he would have hoped and we couldn't see the yolk sac or stem pole. Might just be too early still...so we go back in 5 days for another beta blood test and ultrasound to hopefully see the yolk sac & stem pole. Then we are on vacation for a week, and hopefully after that we can see a heartbeat? I don't know why I am so nervous about this pregnancy....maybe it's just because of my awful FSH/AMH numbers this month. We are still in shock about this -- We had basically accepted our chances of ever conceiving were like 1% and 2 weeks later, we are pregnant? Stick baby....stick baby!! LOL

[myGirl]

ILindGurl, I'm so glad you got to see your little bean! Very exciting. :heart:

[KraizyDaizy]

ILindGurl, that little girl will be just fine! Girls are always a little petite so don't worry yourself at all. This pink bundle is going to be perfectly perfect!!!

[prayforprincess]

ILindGurl -- congrats!

Today is cd2 for me. Here we go again. I pray for a bfp this month because I am not able to stay on the diet to try again in August/Sept/Oct. And then its the holidays. So if this is not the month for me, well then I don't know what will happen. I posted my attempt in the "review my attempts". Would love some feedback.

[ILindGurl]

Well, I technically just saw a black blob...not a bean yet. But, I will take it as a positive step in the right direction! Something is officially attached - yay! My husband was all teary-eyed when the dr handed him the ultrasound photo (of a black blob)...I'm like "really?" and he says "well, he's my little guy!" UGH. He doesn't want any girls...LOL

[HopeandDreamG]

Pray- I'm so sorry about the HT. This has to be it! I'm cd8 today and hoping this is my month FINALLY too!

[NCBeachyGrl]

Hi everyone! I'm on CD7...so excited! Has anyone experienced spotting that went on for a while after AF? I usually stop by day 5, but still have tiny spotting today.

[ILindGurl]

So, I should probably ask -- how is it with 3 or more boys? Trying to prepare myself...we are pretty much convinced it's another boy since we didn't sway. I had loads of EWCM this month, and no symptoms of pregnancy (just like with my boys)...the only difference was they were conceived with 2x and 1x BD respectively. And this time we DTD everyday -- I think it's about 7 days in a row...also boy territory, I think. So, give it to me straight --- how is life with 3 boys? :)

[dannikins]

ILindGurl , in one word, 3 or more boys is noisy.....lol...

they are great though, they all get along really well, play, fight, all that stuff.
and mine were all mummies boys too, super cuddly and smoochy, always keen to help out.

i seen a definition once, cracked me up, it said 'BOY'= noise with dirt on it!

[prayforprincess]

dannikins could not have said it better. Boys are noisy!!!!! My drive me mental. They constantly fight. But they also play well together when they want to. And they are mommy's boys. They love to be with Daddy, but when they are tired, going to bed or hurt --they want their mommy.
Dtd 7 days in a row does not mean boys. Once would say that your one time bd swayed girl. But if he was releasing often prior to your 7 day bd they that is more girl than boy because its lowering his count.
The older dh gets, the more effective dtd daily lowers his count. Not sure your age though.

[prayforprincess]

Pray- I'm so sorry about the HT. This has to be it! I'm cd8 today and hoping this is my month FINALLY too!
whats your plan H&D?

[suregena]

AF has finally arrived. Here we go again. I'm scared.
PLEASE DON'T BE A LONG CYCLE AND CONFUSING OVULATION TIME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!! #%*)@&%#@)%

Okay, that is all.

[auroara78]

ILudGirl, my hubby thought this was boy 3 the whole time except at the U/S when the tech was measuring the femur and he saw nothing between the legs he got very white and whispered to me "it's a girl"...he knew we swayed girl, but actually getting a girl he thought wasn't going to happen!! To be honest, I think you sitll have a great chance at a girl, and the only reason my DH agreed to try for a 3rd was he thought we could make "nothing but boys" lol. I am excited to hear more news as the pregnancy progresses! I think it's just aweosme that you are pregnant with numbers that would make it very hard. This little bean, whoever they are, really wanted you to be their Momma!

And Krazy, I'm not sure about girls always being more petite. They are thinking this one is going to be 9 lbs. So much for a shrinking violet!

[Mochagirl]

Suregena - I'm glad af finally arrived. I hope you have a more normal cycle this time and that you get your BFP! Baby dust to everyone!!

[Lassie1982]

AF has finally arrived. Here we go again. I'm scared.
PLEASE DON'T BE A LONG CYCLE AND CONFUSING OVULATION TIME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!! #%*)@&%#@)%

Okay, that is all.

best of luck!!!!

[Onegirl]

Hi Ladies,

I've been lurking on the boards for a while now, but haven't posted. We weren't going to try for a couple of months, but I've been having some issues with my cycle (lack of ovulation being the most concerning since we want to get pregnant), and after doing some cycle monitoring this month I can pretty much pin point when I will ovulate, so it's too good to miss ;)

So, we'll be BDing over the next three days (O tomorrow). My main concern is that I only just started the LE diet (10 days). The only other thing I am up for is the antihistamine... will that be enough? What do you guys think?

[prayforprincess]

I think stay strong on the diet through o. That might be enough, you never know. It is not proven that you must be on the diet for 6 weeks -- that is just something someone made up as a base time line.
I think you should take the zyrtec and use rephresh -- especially since you are doing multiple attempts. Have you lowered your dh's sperm count at all?
If not then it is best to atleast have him release in the am and then attempt in the pm. If you want to really put an effort in, then have him release in the am and afternoon and then dtd in the pm.

[Onegirl]

Thanks for the tips prayforprincess!

I forgot to mention I am doing rephresh (once every 3 days). My PH from what I can tell (and I am not very good at testing this) is always pretty low - under 5. I took Benadryl last night, and will do so again.

DH hasn't done anything to lower sperm count, but that's a good thought. I'll have to see if he'll go for it though - he's not really into the whole swaying thing, so it's up to me.

My main concern is that with the wacky cycle I might have trouble getting pregnant. So while we're just starting to ttc, I also don't want to go for months on end. Last time we went 12 months trying before I got pregnant and then miscarried. Thankfully I got pregnant again quickly after that and with some help, got a beautiful baby boy out of it :) But now my cycle is waaaay worse than before.

Anyway... I guess I shouldn't be negative before I even give it a chance! It's nice to know that there's a community here that examines every little detail just like me LOL, it makes me feel less alone.

[suregena]

Night one (CD3) of soy last night. I slept so good, but have no idea if there is any correlation. So far, so good.

[prayforprincess]

Onegirl -- if your cycles are wacky then you should just dtd every night. Studies show that dtd every night sways girl a tiny bit -- like 54% girls to 46% boys. Its pretty even though and it does kinds guarantee you getting pg quicker if there is a healthy egg. If you are doing other sway tactics, then that will help you sway further in the girl direction. It will also help your dh to lower his sperm count by dtd daily (without him really knowing he's doing it). Using the rephresh will help to keep your ph low.
It certainly will not put in you in boy territory. Have you tried using opk's to know when you are o'ing?

[NCBeachyGrl]

So excited! I got a Smiley on my digital ovulation test this AM! We will be doing our attempts today/tonight! YAY!!

[Onegirl]

Prayforprincess - multiple attempts was the plan, but I wasn't sure if that was good for the swaying :) Since this cycle I was monitored at the clinic, I know that I ovulated today, and we BD'ed the last two nights and will again tonight. I did use OPK's last time, and if there is no BFP this cycle, I will definitely be suing them next cycle. I am just soooo bad with temping *sigh*

NCBeachyGrl - good luck! I guess we'll both be in the 2ww soon :)

Suregena - hope your cycle stabilizes... I know how frustrating it is when it's all over the place :s

[prayforprincess]

I wouldn't worry about mulitple attempts -- and it looks like you're already doing them

Good luck ncbeachygirl

[suregena]

Prayforprincess - multiple attempts was the plan, but I wasn't sure if that was good for the swaying :) Since this cycle I was monitored at the clinic, I know that I ovulated today, and we BD'ed the last two nights and will again tonight. I did use OPK's last time, and if there is no BFP this cycle, I will definitely be suing them next cycle. I am just soooo bad with temping *sigh*

NCBeachyGrl - good luck! I guess we'll both be in the 2ww soon :)

Suregena - hope your cycle stabilizes... I know how frustrating it is when it's all over the place :s


I hope my cycle is a *little* shorter this month (if I don't get pregnanct this cycle). Hopefully, anyway.

I do seriously think I had a chemical. My period is *so* weird and clot-y (I never pass clots with my period anymore, not since I had my son or really since being in my mid 20s). Actually, I had three days of heavily clot filled bleeding, and then today it almost seemed like it was stopping which confused me, but then I felt cramping again while at work and when I got home... sure enough, some more clot-y looking stuff and more heavy flow?

*hmph*

[Ribbons]

Suregena, are you going to get results from the urine test from the doc? That should let you know if it was a chem or not...

[NCBeachyGrl]

Thanks girls!!!!

[suregena]

Suregena, are you going to get results from the urine test from the doc? That should let you know if it was a chem or not...

I'm still waiting to hear something. :/

[Onegirl]

Suregena, that sucks. I am pretty sure I had a chemical when we were TTC the first time. My cycle was uberlong (though they are always a bit unpredictable), and my period was just weird, kind of like yours. But my dr never ran any tests, she just shrugged it off. We continued TTC and I got a BFP and had a miscarriage at 6 weeks, which made me wish I had asked some more questions about the possible chemical earlier, but by then it was too late anyway. Either way, it's tough, especially if it's just your gut, so try to find out as much as you can from your dr now. Maybe the urine test ribbons suggested will at least give you the answers you need.

[suregena]

The main thing is I had several faint "positives" on tests so it all got super, super confusing... and then they seemed to fade out... plus how this period is, it just makes me think so. We'll see.

[suregena]

Grrrr! Stupid, delicious peanut butter! I will behave tomorrow...

[ILindGurl]

surgena -- based on what you described, it does sound like a chemical. I had 2 this year - the first one was confirmed at doctors office with blood test. Both times, I had a ton of pregnancy symptoms in the 2ww (breast hurt, cramping, metallic taste in my mouth, vivid dreams, etc). So, I tested the day AF was due and got very very faint positive hpt. The first time it was very very faint for 2 days, and then there was light bleeding..spotting really. The second time, the bleeding started late that evening...and by morning the hpt was negative. I'm so sorry. I didn't have any clotting with that period...but the month following I strangely had lots of clotting...so I think it took a cycle to all come out. Sorry for the tmi.

[LimeRikki]

Hi everyone! I'm new to gender dreaming, but I've been on in-gender and WWAPP on babycenter since 2010. So hopefully when DH and I start ttc in a few months, I'll have a good sway plan ready. Anyway, can't wait to join you guys in the swaying journey! Pink thoughts to all of you!

[suregena]

surgena -- based on what you described, it does sound like a chemical. I had 2 this year - the first one was confirmed at doctors office with blood test. Both times, I had a ton of pregnancy symptoms in the 2ww (breast hurt, cramping, metallic taste in my mouth, vivid dreams, etc). So, I tested the day AF was due and got very very faint positive hpt. The first time it was very very faint for 2 days, and then there was light bleeding..spotting really. The second time, the bleeding started late that evening...and by morning the hpt was negative. I'm so sorry. I didn't have any clotting with that period...but the month following I strangely had lots of clotting...so I think it took a cycle to all come out. Sorry for the tmi.

Sounds pretty exactly what happened to me. I had at least two days where I had positive tests but they faded out, along with my symptoms.

[suregena]

Heard from doctor... all they did was a preg test to look for levels of hcg over 25 and wouldn't be able to tell me a number below that. Pfffft! Naturally, it was negative.

That doesn't confirm enough for me that it was or wasn't chemical... it tells me nothing at all! Grrr. Oh well, what is done, is done.

[ILindGurl]

I'm sorry surgena.

I'm having a bad day too. So we went for another ultrasound. The RE dates the pregnancy at 5 weeks 5 days based on LMP, but I feel strongly it's more like 5 wks 2 days bec I had a 30 day cycle that month and I know I ovulated later at D17. Anyway, the gestational sac grew 1mm a day so that is right on track. But still couldn't see a yolk sac or fetal pole. He said "it's probably still too early". Thankfully we go on vacation for a week, so next ultrasound isn't scheduled for 11 days (beginning of 7 weeks). All these early ultrasounds are just upsetting me....meanwhile he told me we wouldn't learn anything more from the blood tests (which he did and I should get results later today)...so I'm completely feeling defeated and fear this is not a viable pregnancy. I'm so sad.

[KraizyDaizy]

ILindGurl, your bean is just fine. Dont worry. I am praying for you and your little pink bean!!!

[suregena]

It's still so early! *hugs*

[HopeandDreamG]

Ilindgirl - it sounds like everything is just fine! No worries. The vaca will be just what the doctor ordered. You'll come back and see a beautiful baby on the screen!

Suregena- you call doc and order the lower level hcG on the blood that wa already taken. They hold on to it for a bit.

[dramabird]

Hi ladies!!

Ilindgirl, if you're achieving the 1mm growth per day that they expect to see, that has to be a good sign!

Suregena, thank goodness for AF and being able to get into a new cycle!

PFP, I can't recall -- where are you in your cycle now?

I've been so daggone queasy that I've spent pretty much zero time in front of the computer except for what I have to do with work -- which meant I haven't even logged onto this site in several days. But you've all been in my thoughts!

Yark (<-- that's my nausea noise :)). Still no throwing up, but pretty much carsicky round the clock. I'm eight weeks today and have my first OB appointment tomorrow. My doc likes to do a first trimester ultrasound, so we're gearing up/praying to see a good heartbeat.

[suregena]

Suregena- you call doc and order the lower level hcG on the blood that wa already taken. They hold on to it for a bit.

They only tested my urine! :( I couldn't get a blood test out of 'em.

[suregena]

Hi ladies!!

Ilindgirl, if you're achieving the 1mm growth per day that they expect to see, that has to be a good sign!

Suregena, thank goodness for AF and being able to get into a new cycle!

PFP, I can't recall -- where are you in your cycle now?

I've been so daggone queasy that I've spent pretty much zero time in front of the computer except for what I have to do with work -- which meant I haven't even logged onto this site in several days. But you've all been in my thoughts!

Yark (<-- that's my nausea noise :)). Still no throwing up, but pretty much carsicky round the clock. I'm eight weeks today and have my first OB appointment tomorrow. My doc likes to do a first trimester ultrasound, so we're gearing up/praying to see a good heartbeat.


Oooh, I HATE the all day sickness so much. Especially since I use public transport - with my son, that was so brutal. There were days I could not leave the house and called in sick to work because the idea of the commuting to work on public transport in the summer made me feel even *sicker*. I remember walking to work, too, after surviving the train journey, heading up the road, which goes uphill, and I ran around a corner behind a building and called into work because I was going to hurl. Well, I didn't of course (only threw up twice with my son) but I felt like one more step was going to make me!

Funny how we all hurry to get pregnant again... heheeh. :)

[suregena]

Is it wrong that I want to start taking Cetirizine *NOW*?! Is it bad/good/doesn't matter how long I take it for my sway?

I was going to just take it leading up to expected ovulation... but since the flood in the town, and now with hot/muggy weather... my allergies have been BRUTAL! My eyes are itching, I'm sneezing like crazy, my FACE itches! ARGH! I'm taking one tonight! AGGGH! *sneezes*

[NCBeachyGrl]

I started on CD6 - knowing I would O CD11-13, but I don't think it would hurt to take now...especially if it will make you feel better!

[suregena]

I'm on CD5... so... close enough! :P

[NCBeachyGrl]

I'm on CD5... so... close enough! :P

LOL!!!!!!!It really helps too! I am in the 2WW now and I am sneezing my head off!

[suregena]

I'm on the soy this time, as well... so I need to take it, anyway... to *seriously* keep potential increase of EWCM at bay! I may not ovulate until CD15... to CD24... or maybe even later (God, I hope not)... so I could always take it for now and stop then restart for the attempt, I guess! :D

[myGirl]

ILindGurl- (((hugs))) It's still too early to see anything, plus your bean is growing at the right rate, everything's going to be fine. Try to enjoy your vacation as best you can :HH:

Suregena- geez, sorry about the stupid Dr. office test, how disappointing! At least you're on to the next cycle and taking soy. Have you had any side effects? I always took it at bedtime so I didn't feel anything from it.

KraisyDaisy- how are you doing? I started taking some supplements to improve egg health even though they sway blue. Have you ever tried any supps for you or DH? Praying for a BFP for you!

dramabird- ugh- so sorry to hear about the all day m/s. I had it too with all 3 PG, and nothing worked for me. The queasy feeling of the nausea is worse than throwing up because at least if you vomit you can feel better for a few minutes. I hope this passes quickly for you!

LimeRikki- Welcome! I love the names of your kids :) You will like it here at GD, the ladies here are wonderful and Atomic spends waaay more time than she should helping each and every one of us.


I'm 10 dpo today and not testing until tommorow... a new record for me! I feel so much happier not testing early, I can still hold on to the idea that I have every chance of a BFP!

[suregena]

That's the other weird thing I'm trying to balance. My husband hasn't yet started to FR... we were thinking him start tonight, however if my ovulation date isn't brought forward a little from the soy (and the lack of vitex), then he'll be having to keep on for a while. He can do it... but, yeesh! I think we'll still start frequent BD this time, too, after he's had at least 8-10 releases. I've got 1 rephresh tube I'll use in the middle of all the BDs...

Also, *this* time... I've bought a 20(!) pack of digital clearblue ovulation kits. I am DETERMINED to catch that LH surge this time so I really know what's happening! The cheapies don't work for me (or I don't buy enough and run out far too soon, which is the most likely scenario so maybe I should get some more of those just in case)... I really, really want to catch that LH surge. The worrying if I have/if I haven't business was and is so stressful. I want a clear, non-confusing cycle this time.

[suregena]

Suregena- geez, sorry about the stupid Dr. office test, how disappointing! At least you're on to the next cycle and taking soy. Have you had any side effects? I always took it at bedtime so I didn't feel anything from it.

So far, nothing... unless sleeping like a ROCK the past two nights I've taken it so far counts. I have no idea if that's a coincidence or not. It's been pretty nice, actually... normally I wake many times. Because I've been sleeping a bit more solidly, I've not felt sleepy in the morning. It's really unusual for me. I practically leap out of the bed, ready to get up for work?! What the?! No headaches (so far... CD3, first dose was 100mg, then yesterday was 150mg, and tonight I'm probably doing 150mg again, then the last two nights 200mg... still undecided but think it makes the most sense. I guess!) Don't feel sick. Feel really normal, except for the amazing restful sleep...

[NCBeachyGrl]

Those cheapie OPKs are frustrating for me b/c I always second guess. When you get the smiley OPK, there is no denying it!! Ughh...I hear ya in FR....it can be so difficult and annoying. I was glad to O on CD11 just so I could stop!

[myGirl]

Yes, those cheapie OPKs are a nightmare for me also! I'm so glad you got the smiley face type Suregena. And yay for sleeping better with the soy!

NCBeachyGrl- when will you test? I'll see you over in the June 2ww!

[suregena]

Those cheapie OPKs are frustrating for me b/c I always second guess. When you get the smiley OPK, there is no denying it!! Ughh...I hear ya in FR....it can be so difficult and annoying. I was glad to O on CD11 just so I could stop!

Yeah. Last cycle I had a mix of three types... better quality OPKs (not digital), some digital ones, and the cheapie ones. I ended up using them ALL WAY WAY before I ended up actually ovulating! :(

Maybe I should get some cheap ones so I can take them at work just to check but not waste the digitals. I mean, I'll have plenty of digitals... but if I get OPK test happy from CD10... they could be gone because I O! But maybe if I do a mixture of both. I'm trying to think of ways to make sure I have plenty and have digitals left for when I actually have an LH surge.

I just soooo hope my cycle is a little shorter this time.

We leave for Berlin August 1st. I BETTER ovulate before that date... because I am EATING in Berlin... no if's, and's, or but's.

[suregena]

Nevermind - decided it'd be a good idea. Got 25 of those egens brand cheapie OPKs someone on here told me about... that way I can take THOSE at work in the afternoon and not use the digitals at work (because that'd get a little awkward to carry to and from work...)

[NCBeachyGrl]

Yeah. Last cycle I had a mix of three types... better quality OPKs (not digital), some digital ones, and the cheapie ones. I ended up using them ALL WAY WAY before I ended up actually ovulating! :(

Maybe I should get some cheap ones so I can take them at work just to check but not waste the digitals. I mean, I'll have plenty of digitals... but if I get OPK test happy from CD10... they could be gone because I O! But maybe if I do a mixture of both. I'm trying to think of ways to make sure I have plenty and have digitals left for when I actually have an LH surge.

I just soooo hope my cycle is a little shorter this time.

We leave for Berlin August 1st. I BETTER ovulate before that date... because I am EATING in Berlin... no if's, and's, or but's.

That is what I did! I had a bunch of cheapies and when it looked positive, I took a digital just to confirm. I still have 4 left too! Makes me feel better when it comes up 100% negative that I didn't waste an expensive test!

Berlin sounds fabulous!!

[suregena]

Berlin is one of my most favorite cities... ever. We went last year in a combo Paris/Berlin three day per city trip... and three days was NOT enough. A lot of very horrifying things to see in person and there is a heaviness when you're there, but on the other side... it's just such a good vibe. The people, the food... it's electric! Love it.

[suregena]

Third night of sleeping like a complete log with soy.

[KraizyDaizy]

CD14 and should be Oing today or tomorrow. Starting my attempts today for the next week or so. It's so much work, but hopefully it might work this time and if not, my next cycle we will be in our new house and maybe then it will happen.

[NCBeachyGrl]

I am pretty confident I o'd yesterday but for some reason I feel like it would be a miracle to actually get pg with all the stuff I did!

[myGirl]

Hi girls,

I got a BFN today at 11dpo and now AF is here early! On to July.

[amari]

CD14 and should be Oing today or tomorrow. Starting my attempts today for the next week or so. It's so much work, but hopefully it might work this time and if not, my next cycle we will be in our new house and maybe then it will happen.

Great attitude! Hope you catch that egg !

[cravingsalt]

Sorry MyGirl! Bummer. Well, at least she didn't keep you waiting and hoping. Maybe July will be our month!

[Lassie1982]

sorry myfirl :(
and :fx: krazy..

sounds like the soy is working well for you suregena! Im such a light sleeper - what id give for a sound nights sleep!
Im still on the fence about the soy....my only reservation is wether its more boy friendly then girl friendly, and also wether its increases the changes greatly of having a multiple pregnancy...oh decisions decisions

[suregena]

sorry myfirl :(
and :fx: krazy..

sounds like the soy is working well for you suregena! Im such a light sleeper - what id give for a sound nights sleep!
Im still on the fence about the soy....my only reservation is wether its more boy friendly then girl friendly, and also wether its increases the changes greatly of having a multiple pregnancy...oh decisions decisions


It must be less likely for multiples than you'd have with clomid, surely?

I know it's a risk but... we'll see. I'm not keen on twins, either. I always felt I am just so short... it'd ruin my body and I fear my ability to be allowed to have a normal birth (very important to me!) But whatever will be, will be... we'll see. I'd be surprised if twins happened... I've been reading a lot of people's experiences with soy and have only read the very, very odd result of twins.

I've been feeling some very minor twinges in my ovaries/back area... maybe they're groooowing! Hahah! I'm still on AF though... a very weird period...

I worry about the boy factor, too, but I'm just going to be taking the antihistamine and hope for the best. Thankfully, we're both already vegetarian so I'm hoping that is already in our favor. My husband has been for twenty years and I have been for 13.

[prayforprincess]

Just wanted to say hi to all. I'm on cd9 so we'll be starting our attempts on Monday. I am excited and scared.
Hopefully we all get our bfp's in July!

[HopeandDreamG]

It's time Pray!! Glad your excited about your attempts coming up. I am praying. I too do not want to have to revisit this in a few months! Please please please let this be it...
Trying to get another attempt in. Dh still at work. Need to do an afternoon quickie! we are going out late afternoon till midnight and my egg will probably be gone by then.

[suregena]

Definitely feeling pains in ovaries... soy definitely doing something!

[suregena]

I feel so guilty today. Have eaten badly. :/

[NCBeachyGrl]

I feel so guilty today. Have eaten badly. :/

Me too!!!! I snacked one more time than usual and then for dinner I had all these cheese stuffed mushrooms and a huge piece of pie! I at least ate a baked potato and salad for dinner but all the other stuff was so bad!

[dannikins]

good luck everyone...:)
i really hope this cycle is lucky for you all.
and here are some pics of my baby girl, maybe they will give you some pink vibes..:)
i mean if i can accidently have a baby girl, you all have fantastic chances of getting your dream bubbas.......


taken thismorning. 3 weeks 5 days
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr171/dannikins_photos/Facebook/Wall%20Photos/291578_3680243959460_2046735321_o.jpg

yesterday, finally caught some smiles...:)
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr171/dannikins_photos/Facebook/Wall%20Photos/474605_3680090875633_1375266239_o.jpg
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr171/dannikins_photos/Facebook/Wall%20Photos/169355_3680069435097_1792220200_o.jpg

[KraizyDaizy]

Dannikans she is darlin!!!! I hope I can accidentally get my girl because all this planning one certainly has not worked for me at all LOL!!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Dannikans~ I may have already told you but she really is beautiful!! So happy for you. She is a great addition to those gorgous boys!

I am in the 2 WW and really praying this is it, because if its not I have to take time off to get my health in order. I don't even know what else to say anymore.

[dramabird]

:pray: that July is bfp month for everyone TTC!!!

We had an eight-week ultrasound on Friday. Baby measured right on date and had a heartbeat of 165. So everything is looking A-okay.

Still feeling urpy, but doing a better job of getting up off the couch and being a part of the world for the past few days. :) I've gained at least seven pounds since I ovulated (oh, the bloat!) and I'm wondering if I'll be able to hide this from my coworkers for another month. :/

[HopeandDreamG]

Yay drama that's awesome!

[HopeandDreamG]

I just started a july thread. Didn't see one yet. Hoping I don't need to be on the TTY thread anymore :) if this is a bust I'm out for a few months :(

I've been eating a bit more and only 1 1/2 dpo. Tell me this doesn't matter bc egg is already fertilized. I know I want best chance of implantation I've increased calories and feel guilty!

[PeonyPrincess]

Hope I totally fell off the diet in my BFP month 2WW as I didn't think I had a chance. So it can definitely all still work out well. Drama, that HR and feeling sick sound like very good signs! All the best for the rest of the pg.

[HopeandDreamG]

Peony- very happy for you. I know I responded on the other thread! The 2ww cheat dowdy matter for July bc I'm out for then just didnt want to stress about my actual attempt.so stupid bc egg is fertilized already or gone even 1 dpo right :/