How we made girls...by girl moms! (PINK DUST!!!)

[Mamato3?]

Both of my DDs were conceived in warm weather (spring and summertime), for both we had 14 days abstain, missionary position, with O, first was J&D second i spleeped without dropping the semen, I sleep always lying on my left side (old wives tail I think but didn't do it on purpose), I work a lot of hours during spring-summertime and always lose weight cause I skip meals, rarely if ever I eat breakfast, drink 2-3 coffees per day, I drink very small amount of water, don't like milk, cheese, yogurt, season my food generusly and with quite a lot of salt and I don't eat much protein in general...
Will do my very best to change all of the above as I know now from what I've read here that they may have played role for my girls :giggle:

[atomic sagebrush]

I"ve seen at least one study that showed oil in and around the VJ causes yeast infections (and was true for me) so I personally don't recommend it.

[belleboi]

Just thought I'd give my experiences with both my DDs. I got pregnant both times while I was dieting, doing a lot of cardio, and skipping breakfast. I was a huge Diet Coke and coffee drinker, and probably just wasn't in the best maternal health. We BD often (usually every other day if not every day) and I jumped and dumped every single time. I had no clue about swaying or anything like this when I got pregnant.

[maidentomother]

Whenever I've been on hormonal BC I have used olive oil or coconut oil as lube, often daily, as I can't use any storebought lubes. I have never had a YI while doing this, and other times I was on the pill but not having much sex or just not using oil, I have been prone to YIs. So if anything they seem to keep YIs away for me.

[atomic sagebrush]

And that is absolutely fine. HOWEVER, I cannot stress strongly enough how that is a)not going to help anyone who is trying to get pregnant because sperm are not designed to swim through oil and b) it is an utterly TERRIBLE idea for anyone who is pregnant and especially anyone 35 weeks plus because if you give birth vaginally with oil in your birth canal it is extremely dangerous because the baby can aspirate on it.

[maidentomother]

I was only commenting in terms of YIs. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

I know, I just have to be really super clear on stuff. :) The original poster had mentioned doing it during pregnancy and tons of people use oil as lube when TTC and it is a no-no on both fronts.

[maidentomother]

I agree, better to use your own CM when TTC over anything else. Over on FF ladies with plenty of EWCM ask about using PreSeed and it pains me to think of them diluting what evolution perfected.

[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: totally!!

[business.woman]

After reading "how we got our boys"
I realized how girl friend my life was when i concieved my DD
Me and dh were in night shifts in the month i concieved , i wake up at 3 pm go to work and i dont eat anything untill 7-8 pm
I eat lots of sweet , creams , cheesecakes , sometimes chicken
We dtd 3-4 days before O
I remember this clearly cuz it was the first month that i tried to concieved

[MyByC]

Business.women, you have twins now?:-)

[business.woman]

Mybc , nope
Hoping to have twin boys though
I didnt take any supps or anything just folic acid and vitamins

[MyByC]

Good luck! :-)

[Wishing-well]

What is KY?

[atomic sagebrush]

KY jelly. IT's a kind of vaginal lubricant jelly. All lubricant jellies tend to sway pink except those sold as "sperm safe and conception friendly" - those sway blue. So some people have found they get girls using the KY (not that I am recommending it, just that it seems to possibly have worked for some people.)

[nasgats]

I would really love any insight into this. Conception soon after c section bf or not, and conceiving a girl.

I had 3 C-cec, all 3 boys.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry I missed Lara's original question.

Getting pg too soon after a c-section is not safe and not recommended as a sway tactic. Might it sway a bit pink, perhaps, but I would never, ever, ever recommend it.

None of these things are guarantees and as nasgats points out would not be a surefire way to get a girl anyway.

[Mcooper1314]

I have two DDs. With DD1 I was working and had to be at work at 7am so I never ate breakfast and always had a very small lunch, usually one of those freezer meals. Since I was living by myself at the time I wasn't eating dinner much either, and if I did it was usually chicken nuggets or pizza. My DH (BF at the time) took hot showers and also didn't have much to eat as he worked nights and didn't eat breakfast and ate fast food for lunch with a soda and that was the only meal he would eat through the day. I also took hot showers and we DTD (I believe) 4 days before O and always used KY jelly. I was also drinking a lot of cranberry juice bc I had a infection.
With DD2 I was still not eating breakfast and was still eating lousy food for lunch. I was eating a pretty good dinner as DH was living with me then and I cooked dinner almost every night. Cant really remember what type of foods I cooked though. But I know there was always a meat and two sides. My first DD was 3 months old when I got pregnant with DD2 and I was breastfeeding, we DTD everyday after AF with a 5 day cut off, we used KY jelly and I did jump and dump. Looking back now and knowing all that I know, I can understand why I have two girls. Im hoping with hardcore swaying that I can get a boy next time

[aidansmum]

My recipe to making a baby girl:
All the magic potions like Vitex, SP, Chitosan, Clomid with a fair dose of Folic and Aspirin. Zyrtec and Rephresh before DTD. DH was on Cranberry and had Soy for a few weeks. Abstinence by exhaustion more than anything. A DH who's working long hours but on his butt all day so he put on a little bit of weight and had no interest in sex because he was too tired (low testosterone?). Very rare sex going on overall as we were both too tired (like once a month, maybe my body went whoa, maybe she doesn't have a permanent partner, pink it is!) - some DH's wouldn't agree to that arrangement though ;). DH also had sudafed before DTD. I also ate crap, empty carbs, food with not much nutritional value, 2 to 3 cans of diet coke a day, cup noodles, Continental pastas, awful diet! lol Other than that, missionary position, no big O for me. She was conceived on +OPK on a very dry month, which was unusual for me, perhaps because of the drugs. At the top of my head, that's what I can remember. It sounds like an unlikely recipe but in the end it worked :)

[Girlfriend]

What a great thread. Thanks girls

[Essie b]

Hi there. I'm new to this and very confused! Could you please advise me on wot food/drinks to have for ttc a girl please? I've been taking calcium&magnesium and no salt. I drink red wine 2-3 times a wk. my hubby wears tight boxers&has a very stressful job! Thank in advance :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi again Essie - in my signature below is a link to "the Complete Index" which has tons of info on many different topics including our LE Diet which is a bit different than the old-fashioned sway diets.

[Princess Mom]

Hi ladies I have a 5 year old DD. I also have a 7 year old DS and a 11 month old DS, only difference is I planned my two boys didn't sway any. My DD was a suprise, and only thing I know that was different is we Dtd once about 2 days before ovulation. Hoping and praying for another DD soon!

[MyByC]

Hi ladies I have a 5 year old DD. I also have a 7 year old DS and a 11 month old DS, only difference is I planned my two boys didn't sway any. My DD was a suprise, and only thing I know that was different is we Dtd once about 2 days before ovulation. Hoping and praying for another DD soon!

Are you saying you did 1 day ON and 1 day OFF, 1 day ON and 1 day OFF?

[atomic sagebrush]

No, she is saying she had sex once 2 days before her cycle.

PLEASE don't get too caught up in the BD patterns. They really, really are no magic BD patterns!

[atomic sagebrush]

No, she is saying she had sex once 2 days before her cycle.

PLEASE don't get too caught up in the BD patterns. They really, really are no magic BD patterns!

[MyByC]

Got it now!
I know what you mean Atomic :))
We get crazy after a few BFN :)))
I told you my friends who all have girls, they did like this ( 1 ON 1 OFF 1 ON 1 OFF and so on). But the diiiiettt made the difference. I am sure about this!

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I knew why you were asking My! I strongly recommend against anyone BD one day on, one day off for TTC a girl - even if you know 700 people who got girls that way! :)

[MyByC]

Yup. And I'm sure not that doing that! Every 4 days for me :-)

[hopper]

Yes I knew why you were asking My! I strongly recommend against anyone BD one day on, one day off for TTC a girl - even if you know 700 people who got girls that way! :)

Lol this is how we got two boys!!

[aaronpaul]

this is very good information. I want to thank everyone who is posting. Send us all the pink baby dust that you can.

[Bulldogluv]

I have a DD and will be TTC a DS in the summer. I thought I would add how I got my lovely DD as I did not intentionally sway at the time, but have come to realize how girl friendly my diet was. We had been TTC for 10 cycles and I was getting frustrated. I began dieting to lose weight and get my mind off TTC. I ate an unknowingly LE diet - always the low calorie/fat option - LF cottage cheese, cucumbers, green beans, lean protein like chicken and extra lean turkey burger, light yogurt, FF salad dressing, diet soda, egg whites, light parmesan cheese on steamed veggies and I always tried to avoid salt. Plus, I was doing low carb. I hope this helps!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you so much!!! Welcome!

I would LOVE to do a study in the general population about months to conception and genders of babies conceived. I know SO many people who took several months to fall pregnant (not every time, but at least once in their childbearing years) and have more girls than boys overall. In the meanwhile many of us all boy moms are 1-2 months and pg, even over the span of decades!

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Ya as a boy mom I've wondered that too! Like one cycle per boy here, and with a dear friend - 10-11 months TTC and got girls (2x). Wonder if there is a thing there.


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[Pebbles&BamBam]

It took my SIL 12 months TTC and she is having a girl. I have a DD, we DTD once and were NOT trying

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Pebbles I hope I land this one as a one shot wonder lol


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[MamaLuv]

Has anyone conceived a girl having gained weight? Im trying to conceive and would love a girl but I'm gaining weight and don't know why. I'm skipping breakfast and eating healthy. No red meat...I live a busy lifestyle so I work out when I can. I do walk though. With our recent attempt we did extreme frequent release

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Has anyone conceived a girl having gained weight? Im trying to conceive and would love a girl but I'm gaining weight and don't know why. I'm skipping breakfast and eating healthy. No red meat...I live a busy lifestyle so I work out when I can. I do walk though. With our recent attempt we did extreme frequent release

Are you tracking your cals on my fitness pal mama?


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[Ashforblue]

I'm not sure I posted here but will again just in case! I have 2 DDs with 2 different hubbies. #1 I was eating a lot of everything, unhealthy, overweight, & a smoker.. She was a pull out oopsie baby.. #2 I was a lot healthier, walking an hour everyday, still eating meat, but also still smoking . She also was a pull out oopsie baby! You would have thought I'd learn my lesson, lol!! Let's see, so both I smoked, drank a lot of coffee, and pull out! Have all my pink dust! Plz give me your blue!!! :)

[Dana-Alicia]

Thank you so much!!! Welcome!

I would LOVE to do a study in the general population about months to conception and genders of babies conceived. I know SO many people who took several months to fall pregnant (not every time, but at least once in their childbearing years) and have more girls than boys overall. In the meanwhile many of us all boy moms are 1-2 months and pg, even over the span of decades!

Very curious about this as well! What I've also noticed is that a lot of women conceive their first baby girl by surprise and then go on to have planned pregnancies and make boys. So they would naturally conceive a girl, change their life for health benefits for their child, so eat healthier, take vitamins etc and then go on to have boys. Maybe that's something I notice more because thats how it worked for me, but would still be interesting to know.

How I accidentally conceived my girl: we were not trying, so when DH oopsied inside of me I jumped and dumped as much as I could in the toilet. I had just started dieting to loose weight, doing a lot of walking and eating LE. I'm a vegetarian also and was a heavy smoker. With my boy pregnancies I did everything opposite to my girl pregnancy. Not eating meat still, but taking loads of B12 and other vitamins to up my health.

[atomic sagebrush]

Has anyone conceived a girl having gained weight? Im trying to conceive and would love a girl but I'm gaining weight and don't know why. I'm skipping breakfast and eating healthy. No red meat...I live a busy lifestyle so I work out when I can. I do walk though. With our recent attempt we did extreme frequent release

You need to switch to one of the alternate diets in this thread. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/9052-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-3-pcos.html

[atomic sagebrush]

Very curious about this as well! What I've also noticed is that a lot of women conceive their first baby girl by surprise and then go on to have planned pregnancies and make boys. So they would naturally conceive a girl, change their life for health benefits for their child, so eat healthier, take vitamins etc and then go on to have boys. Maybe that's something I notice more because thats how it worked for me, but would still be interesting to know.

How I accidentally conceived my girl: we were not trying, so when DH oopsied inside of me I jumped and dumped as much as I could in the toilet. I had just started dieting to loose weight, doing a lot of walking and eating LE. I'm a vegetarian also and was a heavy smoker. With my boy pregnancies I did everything opposite to my girl pregnancy. Not eating meat still, but taking loads of B12 and other vitamins to up my health.

I also see that trend A LOT. There are even some famous people like Eleanor Roosevelt and Mel Gibson and his first wife who had an eldest girl and then 5-6-7 boys in a row.

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Ya I was taking note of the oopsie thing too. I believe it's the lack stress. I have a friend in AZ who got pregnant by mistake - Dh has like 4 boys, then they have 2 together and "oopsie" was a girl.
I kinda wish the oopsie would happen to me, yet I can let go of "the plan, the sway" bc I feel I need to give it my all....


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[Bobster]

I worry too that stress is a major factor. I can't stop needing a sense of control over things. Although it stresses me out because when I fail by letting the diet slip I get more stressed and worried. It's a funny thing as even if we do nothing we may still get a girl. It's just the unknown and the lack of control over future genders that stresses me out. Its also the worry of feeling like you've not tried enough to get your desired gender. On the one hand I want to give it my all and then I know i did all I could, but on the other I may feel I've sacrificed my life a bit if I get the opposite gender and even maybe compromised my sway by getting so stressed.

[Dana-Alicia]

Stress does not sway blue! (I can still 'hear' AS shouting it lol) It really doesn't! There are different types of stress, like competitive stress and exhausted stress to make ends meet for example. So either way I would not worry about stress at all, focus on diet and exercise, don't worry about stress!

[atomic sagebrush]

It's not stress, it's being a control freak. PLEASE DO NOT STRESS ABOUT STRESS, THAT SIMPLY ADDS STRESS!

[atomic sagebrush]

Stress does not sway blue! (I can still 'hear' AS shouting it lol) It really doesn't! There are different types of stress, like competitive stress and exhausted stress to make ends meet for example. So either way I would not worry about stress at all, focus on diet and exercise, don't worry about stress!

Bahaha I had already written the above post in all caps before reading this LOL.

Studies have actually shown that "real" stress, ya know, things that are actually bad like losing your job, death in the family, illness, etc. sway pink, not blue. It's the things we feel like we can control, and the trying to, that sways blue.

[Dana-Alicia]

Lol it's so hard though, not stressing about stress.

[Burakoam]

Thought i'd post here but i seem to be the exception, not the rule. Currently pregnant with my 3rd girl per the latest ultrasound tech, however i dont lead a very girl friendly life style...so who knows what the heck has happened. I eat tons of fast food, tons of canned food, im always snacking...i do drink whole milk but its an occasional thing...with donuts or cereal or pancakes..typical "this would go good with a glass of milk" type foods. huge fiend on soda, probably dont get enough water by any means. Tons of red meat...very little excersise. I am a very 'sensitive' person though...sensitive to stress, sensitive to life in general and have not had the easiest last 10 years or so. This latest pregnancy pre attempt i was on a prenatal vitamin for 7 months trying to get pregnant before i got pregnant, had to use clomid to even conceive, and when it came to my actual fertile window i seemed to hit it just right since i was being monitored by the fertility specialist..had a positive ovulation test on a friday, DTD with husband that friday night, twice saturday, and twice sunday. Used pre-seed saturday and sunday and from baby's measurements safe to say she was conceived one of those two days...

Only thing i can come up with in my situation that was girl friendly was maybe too frequent a release during my fertile window, my sensitivity issues, or by some miracle of god i have way more calcium/dairy intake than im actually aware of.....or for some reason even with pre-seed im extremely hostile to Y sperm.

Not sure anyone should take anything from my post lol..more just to show there are definitely some exceptions to every rule and im sure there are other ladies who by all means according to diet etc would be more 'boy friendly' but somehow end up with a girl or more girls than boys...

[Pebbles&BamBam]

Doesn't clomid sway pink? I never swayed, but for some reason thought clomid swayed pink?9

[Burakoam]

My understanding is clomid shouldnt be a stronger sway than diet.. Heck the boy diet + pre-seed should have overrode the clomid but i agree it seems in my case it did not. My diet has never changed though really... And i didnt need clomid with the first two pregnancies and they were still girls. So it sorta goes back to something in my diet or 'sensitivities' or something else about me makes me hostile to Y sperm. Hubby has a high count naturally too which ive heard should also sway blue

[princessCharlotte]

was it EWCM or CM when u did your deed?

[Burakoam]

I didnt really get EWCM...i never really have that ive noticed but this time attributed it to the clomid since i was paying close attention. I had an appointment with doc that same friday where they did an ultrasound saw one big ready to pop egg... I had already tested that am and got a negative OPK then around 8 at night tested again and got my positive..

[atomic sagebrush]

Doesn't clomid sway pink? I never swayed, but for some reason thought clomid swayed pink?9

Yes, Clomid sways pink and no we don't know that diet counteracts it. It helps and if you need Clomid you need it and can def. get a boy on it.

I'm sorry it didn't go your way Burk.

[princessCharlotte]

i suspect there is correlation on ewcm for boy and cm for girl. I had ewcm both times doing the deed when conceived my boys. DS2 was failed shettles method who conceived two days before O

[atomic sagebrush]

My understanding is clomid shouldnt be a stronger sway than diet.. Heck the boy diet + pre-seed should have overrode the clomid but i agree it seems in my case it did not. My diet has never changed though really... And i didnt need clomid with the first two pregnancies and they were still girls. So it sorta goes back to something in my diet or 'sensitivities' or something else about me makes me hostile to Y sperm. Hubby has a high count naturally too which ive heard should also sway blue

It could have been something different every time or it could have been just sheer bad luck. Even if you come into something 80% set, there is still that 20% and that seems to be as good as we can get with swaying. If swaying was 100% possible, the whole human race would have died out a long time ago.

[goodmom]

I have two dds and my main reason for dds i think would be.... i always use to skip meals or delay my food eating... i usually get carried away with other work and dont eat on time. Not a big fan of sweet things except choclates and never ever exercise so sacrifice my food for staying slim ... dont like vegies and fruits either ... and plus may be genetics count we are a family of four sisters and one brother :)

[Burakoam]

I know atomic i also believe in some situations its not bad luck so much as maybe actually fate. Princess-i believe you are right especially where im concerned because im not sure i have ever had EWCM.. At least not enough for a happy Y sperm. I really thought pre-seed would encourage a boy.. First time i had also used that in the 7 months of trying... Nope but it did get me pregnant so still worked to a degree lol

[GotBlue?]

Hi,

Thought I'd give away some of my pink dust...
For my two girls I'd say the key thing for me was barely eatting. I was never trying to "sway" but my lifestyle is pure girl. I could wake up at 6 with the hubby and have him make me a tea, which I would only take a few sips from. Or it would be a coffee. The next time I would eat anything could easily be well after 12pm!! Often this choice food would be a pack of fruit gushers(total sugary garbage) or some other convenient snack. Basically the only meal I was guaranteed to make time for was dinner!
Both my girls were conceived first cycle off the pill actually all my pregnancies were but only 2 were to term.
Key "foods" I ate before conception were:
Yogurt-low fat kinds
Fruit gushers
Milk duds
Cookies
Soy milk
Tuna/old cheese sandwiches
Chicken shawarmas
Apple pie
Donuts-glazed/maple
Those five cent candies
And the juices I drank were almost always from concentrate
I also took chewable cranberry vitamin c tablets religiously
I barely drank water and it showed with my CM
Things I did:
Walked everywhere
Cardio 3-5 times a week
NEVER ate breakfast
Had sex everyday sometimes multiple times a day (I'm nervous about this one for my boy sway)
Was very chill as I used to indulge in some special cigs

Looking back/now that I'm doing the boy diet I'm amazed I even conceived!! I feel "bigger" already (it's only been a week lol) but so much healthier.

Good luck ladies!

[Bobster]

This thread is really good. Thanks to everyone who's sharing their pink dust.

Does anyone know if dtd once at ovulation is better than dtd everyday for 7 days? IT seems like a lot of people dtd really regularly. I feel we might have more chance dtd everyday for a week although we don't have the highest sex drives so might be hard.

[atomic sagebrush]

We are getting such outstanding results with the one attempt that I find it VERY risky for you guys to DTD every day for 7 days. Just because some of these gals got girls doing that, you have to realize that most of them were doing tons of things that were pink friendly (and even under ideal circumstances we are seeing swaying have a theoretical limit of about 75-80% maximum.)

PLEASE PLEASE try e very 4 days or even every 3 days before starting to DTD every day. NOt only may it sway blue, but it's not really going to helpyou conceive anyway because DH will be depleted in his sperm numbers before you can even get pregnant from it. It's the worst of both worlds.

[Bobster]

Ok thanks atomic

[Bobster]

Does anyone remember which side they think they ovulated from when they got their girls? I read somewhere that girls are more likely when ovulating from the left but Im sure that's probably a myth ?

[XXforhubby]

Does anyone remember which side they think they ovulated from when they got their girls? I read somewhere that girls are more likely when ovulating from the left but Im sure that's probably a myth ?

Please don't worry or put much stock into this. I ovulated and the placenta was on the left side for this pregnancy, and we are having a boy (Ramzi theory would say girl).

Trying to determine gender from anything other than non-invasive prenatal screening tests or anatomy scans is really pointless [emoji6].


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[atomic sagebrush]

Does anyone remember which side they think they ovulated from when they got their girls? I read somewhere that girls are more likely when ovulating from the left but Im sure that's probably a myth ?

It's actually not a myth and I need an essay on it but when researchers looked at a 3 month pattern, patterns that were L, L, R were boys 75% of the time. Some of the other patterns that went from R to L ovulation were slightly more likley to end with a female conception but nothing anywhere as high as the 75% from the L, L, R pattern and boys. So you can see that something that has to be 3 MONTHS of knowing what side you ovulated from, only to end up with 75% success AT BEST (and that is for boys). It is impractical (impossible) to utilize this for swaying and is just something that is interesting because of what it tells us about how this works, not because it is any kind of feasible method and certainly totally completely and totally not something that anyone should put more than the most passing of thoughts into (except me because I find it freaking fascinating LOL)

It is almost 100% certain that it has NOTHING to do with the ovary itself, it is because it's been proven that most women have a dominant right ovary and you tend to O from that side most of the time as long as things are going well, your fertility is good, and your condition is good. What happens is that when fertility declines, the right ovary closes down shop and the lefty takes over for reasons we have no clue about, and thus it seems to be an artifact of declining/improving condition - a woman who is going from repeatedly Oing from the left side, to Oing from the right, seems to be experiencing an improvement in condition = more boys. :) Weird, weird, weird, and wonderful.

[maidentomother]

Since most women O primarily from one dominant ovary, and most often the right ovary, and since more 160 boys are conceived for every 100 girls, I wonder if that alone suggests more (but FAR from all) girls than boys come from the left ovary.

[goodmom]

This is the topic which is going on in my head now ...i m 5dpo now ..at the time i ovulated i was feeling pain on both sides not sure of tht was ov pain or what but tht day i ovulated and now after 5 days whenever i feel any pain/sensation on my left side i get worried if my sway has not worked and implantation is happening on left ... i know its silly its not 100% but thts what going on in my head now :/
But atomic and xxforhubby u r right i should not bother much there are positive examples also to follow [emoji4]

[atomic sagebrush]

This is the topic which is going on in my head now ...i m 5dpo now ..at the time i ovulated i was feeling pain on both sides not sure of tht was ov pain or what but tht day i ovulated and now after 5 days whenever i feel any pain/sensation on my left side i get worried if my sway has not worked and implantation is happening on left ... i know its silly its not 100% but thts what going on in my head now :/
But atomic and xxforhubby u r right i should not bother much there are positive examples also to follow [emoji4]

You can feel O pain on both or either side and it doesn't tell you where you are ovulating from. You develop 15-30 eggs on both sides every month and only one or two of those eggs are released. The rest are not, and this causes pain in both sides. Both fallopian tubes also cramp after ovulation and this can cause pain as well. It can actually be worse in the side that doesn't ovulate because the pressure is released when the egg pops. I have talked to TONS of ladies who had strong one sided O pains and actually found out later that they Oed from the other side.

you CANNOT feel pain from implantation. It is absolutely impossible. The ball of cells is so small that it cannot be felt. IF you could feel implantation occur, your uterus would be so unbelievably sensitive that pregnancy and childbirth would be unbearable. For reasons we don't know, people often feel pain in one spot or the other for a while then it moves around to a different spot here or there, it's probably the stretching of tissues or swelling or inflammation. I've had pregnancies where I felt pain here for a week, there for a week, pretty much the whole first trimester and it had nothing to do with where the placenta even was. :)

[luvmyfam]

This is so interesting. I always ONLY felt pains or anything on the right side. Never anything on the left. Now in the last couple of years, it's both sides. Hmmm.

[atomic sagebrush]

You can't tell anything based on O pain. I know it's tough to wrap the old brain around, but it's 100% true. The stuff you feel going on below the equator around ovulation isn't necessarily even coming from the ovary. So much goes on around ovulation both physically and hormonally that it can be all sorts of things causing O pain and is totally unreliable.

[HopingForPink407]

MD, I think the vitex and then switching to soy, helped more than you know. In fact I have advised quite a few people to do that based on your experience!!!

DK if you remember Arabeth from IG but she did the exact same thing, took vitex for several months nonstop and then switched to Clomid rather than soy and also conceived a girl.

This might be a silly question, but what form of soy do you mean? Thanks!

[Atsaukina1]

Soy isoflavones

[psophia]

Looking back I was so girl all the way. Except I skipped dinner not breakfast. Love carbs and protein was only an egg or chicken no red meat. Was not weight training at that time or exercising much. My mostly carb diet made me tired and depressed and skinny fat. I have low libido and even tho I was newly wed I think we did it once in fertile period although it was a long cut off. Like 5 or more days probably. I was drinking a few times a week. And highly emotional feeling like a victim as I had a hard adjustment to marriage my husband is a a type perfectionist and I'm a hot mess haha. He's fab tho.

[atomic sagebrush]

This might be a silly question, but what form of soy do you mean? Thanks!

Soy isoflavones. I am not recommending them for swaying for the average person because it has caused a lot of side effects but they are like a "poor gal's Clomid" for people who are having trouble ovulating (some people have taken vitex nonstop for months on end and stopped ovulating and their docs would not give them Clomid, so they used soy iso instead).

[HopingForPink407]

Thanks! I think I might give soy a try. I'm getting pos OPKs and a temp spike, but it goes back down after about 4 days. Hoping soy will help!

[atomic sagebrush]

Do not start till AF comes though. VERY IMPORTANT.

[HopingForPink407]

Do not start till AF comes though. VERY IMPORTANT.

OK thanks. How much should I take?

[Boyzmommy]

Atomic my af is on 7 th and last 4 days approx. i O on 24 th of every month. So should i start dtd every 4 th day after AF. Doesnt it sway blue?or should i abtrain?
My Dh is 41 and is on LR

[atomic sagebrush]

OK thanks. How much should I take?

100 = 50 mg clomid and this is my preference.

Some have taken 125, 150, 200 but this is not my preference

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic my af is on 7 th and last 4 days approx. i O on 24 th of every month. So should i start dtd every 4 th day after AF. Doesnt it sway blue?or should i abtrain?
My Dh is 41 and is on LR

NO abstain for DH at 41.

If you're doing every 4 day method then you'd start after AF and do every 4 days.

If you aren't doing every 4 day method, you could have DH do daily release or every 2-4 day release, then have one attempt at pos OPK

I can't give you advice without knowing the method you are using and why

[psophia]

NO abstain for DH at 41.

If you're doing every 4 day method then you'd start after AF and do every 4 days.

If you aren't doing every 4 day method, you could have DH do daily release or every 2-4 day release, then have one attempt at pos OPK

I can't give you advice without knowing the method you are using and why
Sorry to hijack but is every 4 days ok for a guy with lower post vasectomy reversal sperm count?

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[atomic sagebrush]

yes to start, we can always add more attempts

[Princess Mom]

My husband is 39 will be 40 in January I know we didn't DTD for about 5-6 days and then did it once around ovulation, Maybe day of I think so that is one attempt? Even though it was abstained for 7 days. I know you advice against that for older men. Is it because of their sperm can effect and cause miscarriage?

[daydreaming]

I have one daughter and one son. There was no major difference between my diets and timing (we always had sex once every 1-2 days) before conceiving them. But before my DD I used a birth control pill for around 6 months, and then metformin (I have PCOS) for around 8 months. With my DS I didn't use any of these. So in my case, I think it's related to the pills or metformin or just pure luck.

[atomic sagebrush]

My husband is 39 will be 40 in January I know we didn't DTD for about 5-6 days and then did it once around ovulation, Maybe day of I think so that is one attempt? Even though it was abstained for 7 days. I know you advice against that for older men. Is it because of their sperm can effect and cause miscarriage?

Yes that is still one attempt

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/8801-articles-studies-about-why-abstain-not-good-males-over-35-a.html

[atomic sagebrush]

I have one daughter and one son. There was no major difference between my diets and timing (we always had sex once every 1-2 days) before conceiving them. But before my DD I used a birth control pill for around 6 months, and then metformin (I have PCOS) for around 8 months. With my DS I didn't use any of these. So in my case, I think it's related to the pills or metformin or just pure luck.

We know it's not pure luck because we get better than 50-50 for both pink and blue sways (even among people with 3,4,5 or more of the same gender already). Something we're doing is working and coming off BCP and metformin both seem to sway pink.

[meoab]

Ok, since I am pregnant of my sweet baby girl, who is btw a very good baby, she only kicks in the mornings for a couple of hours lol (almost 8 months pregnant now), I have been reading a lot A LOT nd would like to add my unintentional sway for a baby girl :DD: .

We moved last year from a big city where you could buy good red meat anywhere, nice vegetables, find many good restaurants and a variety or rice! Yes I am a big sucker for meat, rice and potatoes with loads of salt, avocado, vegetable salad and fruit salad with SALT.

Unfortunately, that changed as soon as we moved to this tiny Island, where the quality of meat is poor and therefore, we barely ate meat, we barely snacked due to full-time job, we stopped having breakfast in the mornings as soon as I started working 40 hours a week, had two chai tea lattes every day and two cups of coffees with sugar, no candies at all and no cookies anymore. Our dinner consisted of soup with some bread and some salad, but no meat, no high salt, not a big amount of vegetables nor fruit. I was also on a diet and tried to avoid many carbs, fat, salt, sugar etc. Sometimes we had pasta with vegetable, but no snacks at all and the last few weeks before our deed, I had many fruit shakes and cereal as dinner...My immune system became pretty weak I must say, many headaches, no vitamins intakes at all, not many fruit, maybe one banana in the morning with coffee as 'breakfast' (around 11 at work). Lunch: usually some bread with tuna or soup.

I don't remember everything in details. We were in general everything LOW. However, we did do a lot of walking as it's hard to buy a decent car here and I went a few times to the gym where I mostly did cardio workouts.

I believe that is how I got my surprise baby girl. She was not planned and we did the pull out method. Neither was I aware of any sway.



I believe 100% in the methods and I am sure if one follows it religiously, they will get their dream baby.

[Jenny60611]

So, i didnt sway this time (total surprise pregnancy) but ended up with the DG that i tried to sway and got an opposite last year so i thought I'd post my info too (even though i wasnt intentionally swaying at all). Maybe it will be helpful to someone :)

So last year i did a full out girl sway and did everything by the book, religiously, except for the exercise component. I ended up with a boy.

For this surprise pregnancy (that i now know is a girl) this is what i was doing at the time:

Diet- calories (1200-1400/day) but no restrictions on food. If anything i was probably fairly healthy eating a lot of protein, healthy veggies, nuts, etc. I was tracking my calories/foods because i was trying to lose some weight but was pretty balanced between carbs/proteins/fats. Drank at least 1 venti starbucks/day so lots of caffeine. Took multivitamin.

Exercise- like a crazy person lol. 5+ times a week of intense cardio (at least an hour at a time) and light weights as well as barre classes.

BD- well before i ever got a positive on an OPK. We only did it twice all month so i know baby came from BD on either O-5 or O-3.

Since we BD'd so far from O i thought there was no chance id get pregnant but surprise! :) We are super excited!

[Butterflies buttercups]

Congratulations ! Have taken note of the posts on here it's proving exercise is so important swaying pink which is so encouraging for me to keep going !
Thanks for posting! Xxx


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[sunnygirl]

Yes, Clomid sways pink and no we don't know that diet counteracts it. It helps and if you need Clomid you need it and can def. get a boy on it.

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My sister got two boys on clomid, so it is possible!

[amandaj001]

I am new to swaying pink but I had a question about my copper IUD. I thought that I read somewhere that the Mirena sways pink but does the copper IUD? I haven't taken it out yet as I am waiting to start the diet. Just curious how the IUDs sway. Thanks!

[JAndy]

I lurked these boards and read up on everything when we were TTC. I am currently (almost) 14 weeks pregnant and we found out via NIPT that this baby is a healthy baby girl.

I did sway pretty hard for 6 months. I cut out breakfast, I am thin to start with so I didn't want to go crazy with the diet, but I did try to do a LE diet. I cut out potatoes and tomatoes and didn't eat things with a lot of salt. When I got routine bloodwork done, I found out that I was border-line vitamin D deficient, so I was take a vitamin d pill every other day. I wasn't taking any type of multivitamin, but since I did have short cycles, I was taking a vitamin b-complex with vitamin c to help lengthen my LP.

For the first 6 months I was using rephresh and really only dtd once in my fertile window.

We weren't getting pregnant, and I was getting impatient and getting my period was depressing me every month. So during the 7th month of TTC I cut out the rephresh and I started to eat a small breakfast. I either had a bowl of strawberries or toast with almond butter. I never eat red meat, so we pretty much ate vegetarian. My husband rarely eats red meat as well, since we don't cook it in this house. So it was more like a modified diet.

I didn't exercise. I was just starting work again (I'm a teacher), so I wasn't getting as much sleep as I was during the summer. Also, since I was starting work back up, I wasn't as obsessed with TTC.

The month that we got pregnant we pretty much DTD every day in my fertile window, it was a good 5 days in a row. I didn't jump and dump. We always DTD missionary.

After I found out I was pregnant I looked at my biorhythms for when I ovulated and it leaned girl. we were in the period between new moon and full moon (which I read sways girl).

That's about it. I can't think of anything else. I was ecstatic when we found out that this little one was a girl though!

ETA: I was taking baby aspirin every morning as well and did not orgasm. I also remember reading somewhere that sleeping on your left swayed girl, so I was purposely sleeping on my left. For fun I had a girl outfit under the bed as well, but I don't know if that had anything to do with it.

[atomic sagebrush]

I am new to swaying pink but I had a question about my copper IUD. I thought that I read somewhere that the Mirena sways pink but does the copper IUD? I haven't taken it out yet as I am waiting to start the diet. Just curious how the IUDs sway. Thanks!

We don't know for sure, we are operating under the assumption that even the copper ones sway pink but we don't have quite enough data to know for sure.

[Bluebooties]

I had never heard of or believed in swaying up until last year so i was not tracking ovulation. I always assumed based on average cycle lengths as to my most likely O date. I was in residency training so looooong hours, stress, sleepless nights never time to eat. Always had breakfast but would skip lunches and dinners regularly. Lived on low calorie snack and carbs mostly. Very little protein. No exercise. Zero muscle mass. Loosing weight by the day. Anemic. And no supplements.
Since hubby and i barely got to see each other (he was a resident too and we would be doing opposite days and night shifts) we only managed one attempt closest to what i felt was my O date. And we had long periods of abstence inbetween bcoz of crazy work life.

[BunnyGirl19]

The copper IUD is shown to raise estrogen levels toward estrogen dominance and decrease progesterone receptibily so I would assume it sways blue based on that.

[atomic sagebrush]

The copper IUD is shown to raise estrogen levels toward estrogen dominance and decrease progesterone receptibily so I would assume it sways blue based on that.

We are not finding that the whole estrogen/progesterone notion is at all reliable for swaying purposes. We are getting stellar results with things like coffee and alcohol for swaying pink despite their supposed contributions to estrogen dominance and also have TONS of people getting girls with perilously short LP's so I find this to no longer be plausible, at least the way it's said to work on some swaying sites.

What we need to remember, when researching swaying, is that a lot of what we used to believe was swaying was only theoretical. Theoretical with little to no data to back it up at all, and people start getting SO focused on chasing the theoretical reasons that they lose sight of doing what is actually WORKING. We don't KNOW that high estrogen, low progesterone sways blue. It was one theory with very sparse evidence backing it up. So don't get so focused on chasing that hormonal profile that one ends up missing the forest for the trees. :)

[BunnyGirl19]

We are not finding that the whole estrogen/progesterone notion is at all reliable for swaying purposes. We are getting stellar results with things like coffee and alcohol for swaying pink despite their supposed contributions to estrogen dominance and also have TONS of people getting girls with perilously short LP's so I find this to no longer be plausible, at least the way it's said to work on some swaying sites.

What we need to remember, when researching swaying, is that a lot of what we used to believe was swaying was only theoretical. Theoretical with little to no data to back it up at all, and people start getting SO focused on chasing the theoretical reasons that they lose sight of doing what is actually WORKING. We don't KNOW that high estrogen, low progesterone sways blue. It was one theory with very sparse evidence backing it up. So don't get so focused on chasing that hormonal profile that one ends up missing the forest for the trees. :)

True. I got my daughter when I was drinking a lot of coffee and alcohol also. LOL

[maidentomother]

I would guess copper IUDs sway very mildly pink for the first month or two after removal. Definitely much less of an effect than the hormonal IUDs IMO. FWIW, I conceived B/G twins two cycles after removing my copper IUD, but one was ectopic so I miscarried both. I don't believe the EP was due to the IUD as it was ovarian, the egg never fully detached from my ovary, supposedly.

[luvmyfam]

Any PCOS moms out there that swayed pink and conceived a girl? Or that conceived girls naturally?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes we've gotten good results with PCOSers, we'd see what needed to be tweaked, Luv.

[Throwaway_panther]

Definitely an unintentional sway since I didn't know about swaying yet and actually really wanted a boy... but also really wanted to get pregnant and did right away!

Conceived on second cycle after hormonal BC (pill - Mcirogestin), so first cycle trying.
Had sex 4-5 times during predicted "fertile window" by Ovia Fertility App. Had had sex maybe 1-2 times before then. Fairly certain all finished in missionary.
I always had an O first ;)
Only other signs of ovulation were EWCM throughout this time (I swear, several days worth) and, uh, general friskiness.
Was very hot weather and we didn't have our A/C on -- maybe had an impact on both of us? Definitely some sweaty days/nights...
Fairly certain the BD that led to conception was 4 days before ovulation... otherwise, it MAY have been the day of, but unfortunately -- between LMP and dating scan being about a week off, and then baby consistently measuring right between those -- I might never know!
Lifted weights 4x a week (heavy weights; 30-45 minute sessions). TONS of cardio -- 2-4 hours of team sports a week on top of lifting on top of routinely biking 60-120 minutes a week. Also scattered swimming and hiking during this period. And lawn mowing, even!
Ate no red meat ever. Caffeine was mixed -- either tons or minimal. Usually just coffee or diet pop.
Lots of artificial sweetners.
VERY minimal calories -- I was dealing with an ED relapse and had anywhere from 0-1500 calories a day with occasional high days. None of these counts counted in the calories burned from exercise, either :/
Ate generally one big meal a day; never ate breakfast. Ever.
Never snacked.
Never ate salty food ever -- was always worried about water retention.
Lactose intolerant, so minimal dairy, but not necessarily minimal calcium.
SO was the most stressed he'd ever been -- had even started therapy before switching to a much better job.
Alcohol? (we only ever drink red wine or unfiltered craft beer full of B vitamins -- still not sure how that plays out still, but SO was definitely having some form of libation, even in small amounts, everyday. As, er, was I.)
SO occasionally was smoking cigars and pipes much more than he ever had
SO was spending lots of time sailing on boat, got much tanner than normal -- good on Vitamin D, I'm sure, but also warmth issue again?
Also had a very early, faint BFP -- 8DPO, or 3w1d of pregnancy.

Things that MAY have pointed boy but clearly paled compared to everything else:
90% of my symptoms based on OWT, including Chinese Gender Predictor, cravings, left side/left boob, etc.
Husband most likely has very high T -- bald, super bearded, hairy, still occasionally has acne, very naturally muscular, tall, aggressive, competitive, athletic, able to get hard at the drop of a hat, no issues with sex drive, etc.
Despite my low weight struggles/behaviors, I have lifted weights for years -- not visibly muscular though (and rather shrimpy), though I am strong!
Pretty good on veggies

[atomic sagebrush]

Panther, interestingly we have NOT seen a strong trend with baldness = sons. (just think Bruce Willis, he has 5 girls!) I am questioning for a variety of reasons, that male T levels even sway blue at all, just thought you'd be interested.

[Boygirlmama]

I lurked this board and got all my swaying info from here and i have a confirmed GIRL!!! I am so glad i found this site, so i had to make an acct just to share my seay, because i truly felt this info helped.
I will add all i remember:
-I skipped breakfast, but did eat a granola bar before my 9am workouts
-I was breastfeeding my son and consistently losing weight for 3 months leading up to bfp
-Limited my caffeine a lot compared to what i used to drink
-Very rarely ate any red meat while swaying, which i used to eat a lot of (especially when i got my son). I cut back a lot on sodium and potatoes, which i also used to eat a ton of
-kept track of ph
-charted temps w/bbt
-took calcium, magnesium and folic acid
-took Rephresh the month i got bfp every 3 days. The day we dtd, i split tr applicator between prior to dtd and just after. Prior to that i used replens, but rephresh maintained my ph.
-used opk's to be sure i didn't have a + on dtd day since my cycle ranged due to breastfeeding, but ended up dtd right after 1st + opk, which i thought was going to kill my chances
-dh took nothing, but did FR (not with me) for 7 days leading up to dtd.
-dh took hot shower prior to dtd
-no O for me
-we did missionary and shallow release and j&d a few minutes after dtd
-exercised an hr 5-6 days/wk
-we only did 1 active try each month. No dtd anywhere around O day otherwise. It took 3 months because the 1st 2 i ended up dtd 6-7 days before O because of wacky cycles f/bf'ing

[maidentomother]

Please fill out the official post your sway questionnaire in the post your sway forum! Congrats on your girl!

[atomic sagebrush]

I lurked this board and got all my swaying info from here and i have a confirmed GIRL!!! I am so glad i found this site, so i had to make an acct just to share my seay, because i truly felt this info helped.
I will add all i remember:
-I skipped breakfast, but did eat a granola bar before my 9am workouts
-I was breastfeeding my son and consistently losing weight for 3 months leading up to bfp
-Limited my caffeine a lot compared to what i used to drink
-Very rarely ate any red meat while swaying, which i used to eat a lot of (especially when i got my son). I cut back a lot on sodium and potatoes, which i also used to eat a ton of
-kept track of ph
-charted temps w/bbt
-took calcium, magnesium and folic acid
-took Rephresh the month i got bfp every 3 days. The day we dtd, i split tr applicator between prior to dtd and just after. Prior to that i used replens, but rephresh maintained my ph.
-used opk's to be sure i didn't have a + on dtd day since my cycle ranged due to breastfeeding, but ended up dtd right after 1st + opk, which i thought was going to kill my chances
-dh took nothing, but did FR (not with me) for 7 days leading up to dtd.
-dh took hot shower prior to dtd
-no O for me
-we did missionary and shallow release and j&d a few minutes after dtd
-exercised an hr 5-6 days/wk
-we only did 1 active try each month. No dtd anywhere around O day otherwise. It took 3 months because the 1st 2 i ended up dtd 6-7 days before O because of wacky cycles f/bf'ing

:agree: yes please do an add your sway BGM if you have time.

As you cn see timing doesn't sway but one attempt DOES! That is just about exactly when I got my DD too (after 3 boys with cutoffs!)

[Boygirlmama]

:agree: yes please do an add your sway BGM if you have time.

As you cn see timing doesn't sway but one attempt DOES! That is just about exactly when I got my DD too (after 3 boys with cutoffs!)

I added it to the chart page, i believe. Is there somewhere else i should add it? I dkn't mind. I didn't want to bombard all the posts with the same stuff

[atomic sagebrush]

Adding to the spreadsheet is great but doing an add your sway too really helps people visualize what you did in its entirety. Jsut go to Add your sway section and it's all self-explanatory (whenever and if you have time)

[bre_cooper11]

So, this will be long.... Sorry
How I got my girls...

Start with DH is in the Army and is an Military Policeman (I read that police officers have more girls, somewhere), sits in a patrol vehicle for at least 8hr a day. Sometimes 12 hr shifts, works terrible rotating shift schedules, so, his eating is really sporadic and sometimes just not very healthy. Also, when he does PT it's mostly cardio or weights separate :/. (Trying to get him to change this!). Furthermore, because of Iraq he almost refusing to take a shower less than scolding hot! While downrange he was exposed to radioactive rays that would sends pulses to detonate IEDs before they hit the convoy. When we began TTCing he joked he probably couldn't have kids because of this. Not a smoker or a drinker, has Starbucks here and there, and maybe red bull occasionally. Always under stress because of work.

Overall Diet:
*LOTS, LOTS, LOTS OF DIET COKE!!!!!
*I ate breakfast, but it lasted alllllll morning long.
*Ate salads for lunch with protein. Low cal dressings like Italian.
*Tons of veggies
*Always eating meat, but mostly chicken.
*Lots of protien without a carb.
*Low-cal, 0 saturated fat, low-fat.
*Not much milk, if any, then low fat milk.
*No juice... hardly ever.
*I was more of a snacker, just not big snacks and mostly just carbs or just protein.

Key Factors:
*Not doing cardio and weights together. Not on a great exercise regime.
*Not a lot of EWCM.
*Mostly felt hungry
*Not a great BDing pattern, either too much or not enough.

On to me...DD#1, We started TTCing in may 2010 didn't conceive until end of November 2010, so, took 6 months. I had become a diet coke super fan, enjoyed coffee with splenda, and just water. Not a milk fan. My diet was basically the LE diet. I always eat meat, but was eating a lot of chicken if I ate meat. I would eat carbs by themselves. I would eat breakfast, just something small. Little extra exercising, but always very active. Maintaining my weight or losing weight. At this time, I noticed my muscle mass getting smaller (still had an petite-athletic build). Always in the A/C. I had also stopped all alcohol. Not very stressed out, and was not feeling competitive at all, however, DH was because he fighting to become promoted. Sex, missionary not super close to cervix, not many attempts, o-3 I think...

DD#2, she was not planned or avoided. We had just starting talking about trying again and we were going to sway but hadn't started, yet. Life was pretty good. DH stress levels were lower around this time. Conceived in March (I conceived DS in April). I was nursing DD#1 at the time, about 3-4 times a day. I was working 12hrs shift at an ER as a CNA when she was conceived. Most days I ate as soon as I got to work, and snacked throughout the days. However, if we had critical patients I wasn't eating. Looking, back I was eating alot of 'fat-free', low cal, 0 trans fat. Overall, my cal count was on average 1600-1800. Drinking coffee, at home switch to Truvia but at work used whatever they had and creamer, TONS of Diet Coke. Was active with the kids, but not on a regular work out regime, and no weights. My cycle was pretty regular and I pretty sure she was a one time attempt, not purposely.

DD#3, She was our girl we were starting to sway but it was more of a confused mix of Ingender and genderdreaming and relying probably too much on timing but got pregnant pretty quickly. I was nursing DD#2 2-3 times a day. We were under tremendous amounts of stress because of stationed in Korea... we're 15 miles from North Korea, so, DH is on missions all the time, but it had just weaned off a bit around the holidays. I had just started working as a Facility Manager of a digital training facility (working on computers--- all those positive ions :rolleyes:), I was feeling way more competitive.
I was drinking coffee but just started green tea, Korean green tea, which later to find out was a green tea latte' (haha, this is what happens when you can't read Hangul). Just started supps, prenatal, vit d, potassium, folic acid (which plus my diet are prefect for girl swaying). I had started adjusting my diet, more calories but due to Ingender... more empty calories, too. I would eat peanut butter and wheat toast alllllll morning long with like 3 cups of coffee, still with natural creamer and truvia and just water. DTD... from behind. We started trying after my first PP cycle and I o'd late. Was using a tracker, and ovulation tests and I thought I got a pos but nope I got a blaring pos days later. I wish we would have just let that cycle go and really got into swaying but she was meant to be.
Good luck ladies... take all my pink dust!

Been Diet Soda free since Jan 1st 2016, traded for Green Tea, Lemon Water and Juice :bluecheer:
Super nervous about possibly swaying again, changing such a girl friendly life style for 5-6 years :nails:...

[MyByC]

Got my girl with Atomics help.
Thats is all I need to say.
THANK YOU!


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[atomic sagebrush]

bre I do find police and fire have more girls, if you see that in a study ever I'd love to read it.

Thank you so much ladies, your experiences are so helpful, keep them coming! :)

[all4princes]

bre I do find police and fire have more girls, if you see that in a study ever I'd love to read it.

Thank you so much ladies, your experiences are so helpful, keep them coming! :)
Even police women as well? I was looking for a study myself about this. Lol

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[atomic sagebrush]

No my expectation is police women would have more sons than the general population. Sorry I was saying that for bre's sake since her husband was the one in question.

[bre_cooper11]

I will look for it again! I believe it was related to the rotating shifts, bad diet, and stress. I doubt this will ever change, he actually is working 12hr nights all this month and sometimes skips meals and what not. I also read nurses are more likely to have girls as well. Probably for similar reasons. (dd#2 I worked an in ER, too).

And I believe you expectations about about policewoman would be correct. As I had my boy while on Active Duty (similar atmosphere to policewomen) and our girls after I got out.

[atomic sagebrush]

My husband did make 2 of our boys working nights 11-12 hours so I know it's possible!!!

:agree: nurses have been shown in studies to have more girls and no one is quite sure why that is. Some speculate that it's a caring profession and may appeal more to people who are more set for girls. Not sure if that is true or not but just that some have speculated that. I agree the long hours would also have to have something to do with it!

[MyByC]

I have a friend who is a nurse (her husband is one too). They have three boys :)

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I have a friend and her mom is a nurse, she has 3 girls and 2 boys :)))


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[Mariam]

New here and thought this would be a good start...
I have two girls..
DD#1 honeymoon baby...lost tons of weight before wedding..lot of stress bed 2-3 times /day ( sorry TMI , I know crazy newly weds) cardio, LOVED milk and cheese still do urghh.. Alway out and about early home.

DD#2 crazy cardio regimen like 2 hours 5days a week. I think I was starving myself..needed to lose weight before having another one... I was never a meat fan...only chicken and fish. But I know that we DTD on ovulation and DH was releasing every 2-3 days. Back then I thought if you bed on ovulation day you guarantee a boy ( wish it was that easy)



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[bre_cooper11]

Atomic! That is good to know!

Interesting indeed! I am sure nurses and cops don't only make baby girls :) Just was another factor among many, I believed, inadvertently sway us pink. Because of my hours and when emergencies came in, I would skip meals and live off of coffee and diet coke. Same with DH. I remember feeling hungry frequently.

[luvmyfam]

I am a night shift nurse and I have 2 boys and one more on the way :D.

[squigglepink]

I lurked this board and got all my swaying info from here and i have a confirmed GIRL!!! I am so glad i found this site, so i had to make an acct just to share my seay, because i truly felt this info helped.
I will add all i remember:
-I skipped breakfast, but did eat a granola bar before my 9am workouts
-I was breastfeeding my son and consistently losing weight for 3 months leading up to bfp
-Limited my caffeine a lot compared to what i used to drink
-Very rarely ate any red meat while swaying, which i used to eat a lot of (especially when i got my son). I cut back a lot on sodium and potatoes, which i also used to eat a ton of
-kept track of ph
-charted temps w/bbt
-took calcium, magnesium and folic acid
-took Rephresh the month i got bfp every 3 days. The day we dtd, i split tr applicator between prior to dtd and just after. Prior to that i used replens, but rephresh maintained my ph.
-used opk's to be sure i didn't have a + on dtd day since my cycle ranged due to breastfeeding, but ended up dtd right after 1st + opk, which i thought was going to kill my chances
-dh took nothing, but did FR (not with me) for 7 days leading up to dtd.
-dh took hot shower prior to dtd
-no O for me
-we did missionary and shallow release and j&d a few minutes after dtd
-exercised an hr 5-6 days/wk
-we only did 1 active try each month. No dtd anywhere around O day otherwise. It took 3 months because the 1st 2 i ended up dtd 6-7 days before O because of wacky cycles f/bf'ing

Hi boygirlmama,

Just wondering - when did you ovulate after your +OPK as i see you DTD then. Just curious if it was next day or after..

Many thanks

[maidentomother]

My friend is a nurse; she had a boy then 3 girls. Her younger sister is also a nurse and has 2 boys. However, the younger sister had a bigger gap between kids, she exercises moderately and is less stressed.

My best friend growing up is the daughter of a nurse. Her mom had 3 daughters while very stressed, irregular cycles, underpaid and working erratic shifts including nights. She had her tubes tied. Then 10 years later she had a tubal reversal, had gained weight, PCOS tendencies, new management position with steady daytime hours, and had 2 boys.

[lavenderflame]

I am a mom of 4 girls, how I got my girls is as follows. I am a nurse, but have only been with 3/4. I work days and nights, overtime, I basically never eat let alone pee and when I do eat I binge when I get home. In all seriousness, I've never been a breakfast person, I am just not hungry. I love pasta, I lived on pasta loaded with asiago cheese and butter, this would usually be my lunch. Supper I would generally eat out, pizza, pho, pasta, Wendy's or we would have something at home. We eat a lot of ceaser salad, pasta, bbq. I have always been a carb eater and as a result have always struggled with being overweight. I also eat a lot of yogurt, strawberries, orange juice, sweets (I love to bake), milk especially chocolate and cheese. With all my girls I was extremely stressed dealing with both personal and family tragedies. I realize pop doesn't sway, but we've always been big coke drinkers. My husband's diet is more in tune with the HE diet, however he is a meal skipper as well. We both don't drink and he's a coffee drinker. We also have never dtd frequently (1-2/ month). When we did try for our daughters we dtd the week of ovulation everyday except with the last, we did missionary quick and dirty. My last daughter conceived on ovulation day attempting shettles (timing is nothing) dtd doggy. I have an extremely hard time achieving orgasm, so it's happened 3 times in 10 years. I also don't have a lot of fluids and have always used lube. I will add that both of us over the years have been on antidepressants and my husband has struggled with low testosterone and sex drive. I have known about swaying with two of my daughters, but I didn't want to believe diet had an impact, I see now through friends with all boys and reading these forums that diet really does play a role. It now seems obvious why I had all girls, but I love them to pieces.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks and welcome Lavender! LMK how I can help!

[atomic sagebrush]

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[kelly_jo_myers]

Hi, ladies!
I'm fairly new to this site and planning a boy sway for July. I have a 17 yr old boy and a 14 yr old girl from my first marriage and my husband of 8 yrs and I have a sweet baby girl who will be 1 this Saturday. I've just finished reading through this thread after reading the How We Got Our Boys thread. It's amazing how different I was when I had my son than when I had my girls so I thought I'd share my story.
When I conceived my son I was overweight and ate a ton. I can't remember a lot of details but it was definitely high fat and not a nutritious diet at all. We didn't have a lot of money and I remember we ate a lot of cheap boxed stuff... mac-n-cheese, spaghetti (with no meat probably) smoked sausage, hot dogs etc. About a year after I had Colton, I started doing everything in my power to lose weight. I was on a starvation diet (ate almost nothing) and did cardio (turbo taebo, etc) 2 hrs a day, 7 days a week. I lost 25 lbs and along came my daughter Addison. Unfortunately I can't remember details about the conceptions except that we were trying for both. I would think that we tried pretty much the same way for each which is why I now think that diet and exercise and losing/gaining weight is so huge for swaying!

Fast forward to 2014... I'm in the leanest shape of my life. I do an hour of HIIT with weights 5 days a week and I'm on a very strict low carb, raw veggie, high protein diet (eggs, nuts, nut butter and protein powder maybe some chicken or tuna occasionally but not much meat.) Almost no carbs, no sugar, no fruit. Intermittant fasting, eating all my food between 8am and 2pm thus skipping dinner every day. I took raw whole foods vitamins and ate lots of raw veggies but I think my caloric intake was too low. I was always hungry. We decided at the end of August that we wanted to have a baby and I was pregnant the first week of September with our sweet Raegan. We usually BD daily to every other day but I can't remember now how many times we did during that fertile window. I was 37 when I got pregnant and turned 38 two wks before she was born. My DH turned 37 in March and I just turned 39. Hoping I can conceive as quickly this time and I can have a new baby before I turn 40 :)
Hopefully my story will add to what's already clear between the two threads. My girls have different fathers but I truly believe my diet and exercise habits were big sway tactics! I wish you all the best and I hope I'm able to give my husband a son very soon!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much Kelly Jo! Very helpful!! Sending you tons of blue dust.

[amelia10]

Love this thread thanks to all ye girl moms for giving us your two pence worth!!!!! Xxx

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[baby2016baby]

Thought I'd add my two pence. For all three of my girls I had recently or was following a vlcd. I've struggled with my weight all my life so I'm on a diet 90% of the time. I was seriously reducing calories but still ensured I was getting all the vits and nutrients as they were in the meal shakes. Along with this I was moderately excercising 6 days a week. Usually brisk walking and rowing machine. My first girl was a clomid/trigger but natural insemination. I had one attempt at trigger but don't think I ovd till 3 days later. My second was natural with no assistance one attempt approx 4/5 days prior to o. My third was a half hearted failed blue sway mostly diet (but not 100% couldnt give up the diet pop/caffine/alcohol)and excercise. No supps/vits and hubby did not do anything to sway at all. He drank and had lots of caffine. She was one attempt at approx o+24. I have trouble with tracking o due to not being some to temp (thyroid ) and I find opk some times variable ranging from 2/3 upto 7 days of positives. I suspect my last daughter might have been closer to o than that though. Probably not usefull but guess I love a very pink friendly life. Dropping all my pink off here in return for blue :) good luck to all xxxx

[HappyMedium]

HELLO!!!! HI ATOMIC!!! I am BACK from having my 5th and only girl in 2013...and now I am attempting another Girl sway!!!!!! I am now 42 and getting up in age, but I feel the need....SO....back on the strict sway plan..I don't think my diet has changed much since I swayed for my daughter and I am sure my body is unhealthy acidic...we shall see...going for PINK in 2016!!!

[Georgia_Peach]

HELLO!!!! HI ATOMIC!!! I am BACK from having my 5th and only girl in 2013...and now I am attempting another Girl sway!!!!!! I am now 42 and getting up in age, but I feel the need....SO....back on the strict sway plan..I don't think my diet has changed much since I swayed for my daughter and I am sure my body is unhealthy acidic...we shall see...going for PINK in 2016!!!
I am also here after sucessful girl sway trying to have another girl! 😊


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[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck Happy!!! Sending you my full supply of "pregnant at 42 dust". :) Patent pending.

[atomic sagebrush]

We have one member who had 3 successful blue sways back to back and one member who had 3 successful pink sways back to back! let's keep the trend going, swayers!! :)

[Boyzmommy]

I am more than thankful to Atomic and this site. I had my daughter on June 6 th and still it seems unreal to have a doll at my house. Its all bcoz of this site and swaying. My lifestyle and diet was very boy friendly.
Thankyou Atomic[emoji1317]


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[atomic sagebrush]

oh so sweet!! :heart:

[Throwaway_panther]

Thought I'd add my two pence. For all three of my girls I had recently or was following a vlcd. I've struggled with my weight all my life so I'm on a diet 90% of the time. I was seriously reducing calories but still ensured I was getting all the vits and nutrients as they were in the meal shakes. Along with this I was moderately excercising 6 days a week. Usually brisk walking and rowing machine. My first girl was a clomid/trigger but natural insemination. I had one attempt at trigger but don't think I ovd till 3 days later. My second was natural with no assistance one attempt approx 4/5 days prior to o. My third was a half hearted failed blue sway mostly diet (but not 100% couldnt give up the diet pop/caffine/alcohol)and excercise. No supps/vits and hubby did not do anything to sway at all. He drank and had lots of caffine. She was one attempt at approx o+24. I have trouble with tracking o due to not being some to temp (thyroid ) and I find opk some times variable ranging from 2/3 upto 7 days of positives. I suspect my last daughter might have been closer to o than that though. Probably not usefull but guess I love a very pink friendly life. Dropping all my pink off here in return for blue :) good luck to all xxxx
Can I ask why your thyroid issue makes it hard to temp? Is it just because your overall temp is affected?

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[jsophia922]

It looks like a good deal of you had a lot of stress or dh had a lot of stress. This makes me feel a little better because I have anxiety in general. I was just telling dh thathe I was trying to lower my stress and he looked at me after a couple minutes of this conversation and interrupted me to say, "you do realize you're stressing about stressing out, right?" I'm glad it isn't the end-all, be-all. Though I am seeing a huge quality of life improvement in trying to be more relaxed!! Just glad it can be there and not affect your sway hugely.

[atomic sagebrush]

Can I ask why your thyroid issue makes it hard to temp? Is it just because your overall temp is affected?

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Some people have just really super high or really super low temps with thyroid issues that make it hard to see the temp shift. It's happening it's just that they run so hot or cold that it gets lost in the shuffle. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

It looks like a good deal of you had a lot of stress or dh had a lot of stress. This makes me feel a little better because I have anxiety in general. I was just telling dh thathe I was trying to lower my stress and he looked at me after a couple minutes of this conversation and interrupted me to say, "you do realize you're stressing about stressing out, right?" I'm glad it isn't the end-all, be-all. Though I am seeing a huge quality of life improvement in trying to be more relaxed!! Just glad it can be there and not affect your sway hugely.

I don't want you guys to lower your stress for EXACTLY this reason. The reason I have the admonition to try to avoid things that stress you out is because I don't want you guys inflicting "control-freakishness" onto yourselves with self-induced stressors. Stress actually sways PINK and has been shown to in studies. It's being a control freak that sways blue and while we interpret this as stress, it is really a whole different animal. I see you gals replacing stressing over timing and pH and astrology (which I don't want you to do) to stressing over stress and that was NEVER my intention at all. Avoid the self-inflicted, control-freaky stress that swaying can create. but you can't change your personality, don't even bother to try, and above all else don't start "trying to lower stress" launching into these "Relaxopalooza 2016" projects and end up so paranoid about it you're breathing into a paper bag thinking "OMGOMGOMGOMG I gotta calm down right now or my sway will FAIL!!!" That is what we're trying to avoid. Never my intention for you guys to replace anxiety over a sway with anxiety over anxiety!!

[Throwaway_panther]

Some people have just really super high or really super low temps with thyroid issues that make it hard to see the temp shift. It's happening it's just that they run so hot or cold that it gets lost in the shuffle. :)
Ah crap. I've always run very cold because of my thyroid issues. I might have to rely on OPKs then? 😣

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[foxtrotmama]

I would try temping before ruling it out. You might still get a usable chart, someone in a TTC group I was in 5 years ago had thyroid problems and had a normal chart shifted down a bit.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ah crap. I've always run very cold because of my thyroid issues. I might have to rely on OPKs then? 😣

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Maybe, but give temping a whirl, it very well may work for you.

FWIW, low temps are said by "the other site" to be a surefire guarantee of a boy LOL. ;)

[Throwaway_panther]

Maybe, but give temping a whirl, it very well may work for you.

FWIW, low temps are said by "the other site" to be a surefire guarantee of a boy LOL. ;)
Ha! Well, obviously not in my case, but I'll laughingly take it 😂😁😂😁

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[sigrid86]

Just wanted to help by adding what I did to conceive my girl (which died in my womb at 30 weeks of pregnancy unfortunately :broken:).

I stopped BC in Jan 2015 but only ttc for about 3 times until September due to job change, when I found out I had toxoplasmosis so had to wait again for ttc until December. I got pg that first time with a girl (which I always hoped for).
Because of the toxoplasmosis, I lost some weight and was on a BMI of 17,25 from May until September. By December I was back on my normal weight with a BMI of 18,5-19. It almost never gotten any higher...
Regarding diet: I don't ever eat a lot of meat, have 1 can of diet coke every day, eat a lot of sugary foods (I love cookies, ice cream and chocolate), don't eat very regulary, sometimes I just ate a cookie for breakfast and when we go out to eat (at least once a week) I take a goat cheese salad (huge fan!) or pasta. Oh also, if I eat a large meal in the evening, I can't anything until the afternoon/evening the next day because I still feel stuffed.
Regarding exercise: I played tennis and padel for 4-6 times/week then. The 3 days before conceiving I played a European tournament of padel for which I had a bit of competitive stress (so not very girlfriendly I guess). DH is a soccer player (2 practices and 1 match a week), wears loose boxers everyday except when exercising.
Regarding attempt: we dtd only once that month at pos PK. My libido isn't very high and DH is also fine with dtd once a week or less.
Supplements: I took a prenatal multivitamin every day, so that's also not very girlfriendly...

We would like to have 2 (living) children and I would love to have all girls, or at least one.
I started swaying one month ago (BFN unfortunately) and I hope I can still get my girl(s)...

Good luck to you all!

[Bathsheba]

Sigrid, so sorry about your little girl. Sending all best wishes that your family will soon be growing again.

For girl swayers I wanted to post the circumstances in which my daughters were conceived, so here goes.
With DD1, we were not swaying. I was 10lbs overweight but had gone vegetarian a few months earlier, then vegan the month before so was losing weight. I did no exercise (apart from walking) and drank black tea and coffee a few times a day. I was taking a prenatal. We had had no sex throughout the month but DTD from O-5 through to O, skipping O-1. Effectively we had abstained until O-5 so poss low numbers of viable sperm. She was conceived in the summer.
With DD2 I had started eating meat again and had a good diet (Primal-ish) but weight was holding steady and wasn't overweight. I did (I realise now) have a poor Omega3/Omega6 fat ratio- too many vegetable oils for cooking etc and not much oily fish. I also ate carby snacks with no protein at the same time so blood sugar must have been up and down. I was taking a prenatal. I walked a lot (everyday) pushing DD1 in pram and was still Bfing her several times a day and during the night. I drank tea but no coffee. Again, we had little to no sex from AF until O-5 and again on O day. She was conceived in the spring. I think diet-wise DD2 was more likely to be a boy, but the regular BFing (causing little to no EWCM,) the poor choices of fats and the fluctuating blood sugar may have counted against me. Hope this helps someone. X

[sigrid86]

Thanks a lot Bathsheba!

And thank you - like all the others who did this, to add your experience!
It's really helpful to know this and if I look at most experiences, it's not a coincidence that they got girls :)

Wish you all the best!

[weeziewoozles]

Thanks ladies. All your stories are valuable here

[Throwaway_panther]

Sigrid, so sorry about your little girl. Sending all best wishes that your family will soon be growing again.

For girl swayers I wanted to post the circumstances in which my daughters were conceived, so here goes.
With DD1, we were not swaying. I was 10lbs overweight but had gone vegetarian a few months earlier, then vegan the month before so was losing weight. I did no exercise (apart from walking) and drank black tea and coffee a few times a day. I was taking a prenatal. We had had no sex throughout the month but DTD from O-5 through to O, skipping O-1. Effectively we had abstained until O-5 so poss low numbers of viable sperm. She was conceived in the summer.
With DD2 I had started eating meat again and had a good diet (Primal-ish) but weight was holding steady and wasn't overweight. I did (I realise now) have a poor Omega3/Omega6 fat ratio- too many vegetable oils for cooking etc and not much oily fish. I also ate carby snacks with no protein at the same time so blood sugar must have been up and down. I was taking a prenatal. I walked a lot (everyday) pushing DD1 in pram and was still Bfing her several times a day and during the night. I drank tea but no coffee. Again, we had little to no sex from AF until O-5 and again on O day. She was conceived in the spring. I think diet-wise DD2 was more likely to be a boy, but the regular BFing (causing little to no EWCM,) the poor choices of fats and the fluctuating blood sugar may have counted against me. Hope this helps someone. X
How far apart are your DDs?

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[lustforblush]

I'm just curious can the calcium pills make up for the milk-dairy products?


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[lustforblush]

Oh wow really old thread! Lol


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[Bathsheba]

How far apart are your DDs?

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They're nearly 2 1/2years apart. Hoping for a similar gap, but DD2 nurses far less than Dd1 so I'm hoping that it will have hardly any effect on TTC a boy

[Bathsheba]

Oh wow really old thread! Lol

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I don't think it matters:D Some of the old threads seem to get revived:D
Are you swaying boy? As far as I can tell, nutrients sway boy, so Ca supplements (if no dairy) may be more blue than pink, despite the widespread advice.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes we like to keep the old threads going when we can, that makes fewer threads to read instead of having to open and shut 25 similar threads all with a fraction of the info in them. :) Keep it going girls!

Nutrients across the boards have been associated with more boys conceived. If you REALLY can't bring yourself to eat dairy foods for boys, that's up to you - your body just takes stores of calcium from your bones and teeth (and we've had people do blood tests that show identical levels before and after a strict sway diet - in many cases the levels actually went UP even when they were eating no dairy.)

A lot of us on here have opposites the "old school" way so it's easy for us to give up on some of that stuff. Example I got my 3rd and 4th boy taking tons of calcium supps and all 4 boys with lots of dairy. So this was easy for me to give it up to TTC a girl (and I succeeded.) But I know it can be a hard choice if you haven't had that experience so it's always up to you guys what tactics you want to do and what you don't.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm just curious can the calcium pills make up for the milk-dairy products?


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For blue or pink????

For blue, if you do want to include dairy foods (full fat dairy only) and calcium via prenatal that is fine. Most of us don't take actual cal supps for TTC a boy though just in case (although I was when I got my last two boys haha) and be sure you're taking Vit. D as well.

For pink, I think it's better to use calcium supps, if you must use them (did not work for me, but your sway your way) because the high nutrient intake in dairy foods can really wreck a sway.

[RonsWifey2011]

For blue or pink????

For blue, if you do want to include dairy foods (full fat dairy only) and calcium via prenatal that is fine. Most of us don't take actual cal supps for TTC a boy though just in case (although I was when I got my last two boys haha) and be sure you're taking Vit. D as well.

For pink, I think it's better to use calcium supps, if you must use them (did not work for me, but your sway your way) because the high nutrient intake in dairy foods can really wreck a sway.

So, you should avoid all dairy when swaying pink? I thought it was okay as long as you stayed under your calories, fat and protein? The reason I ask is because I have 2 cups of coffee a day (both with 2 Tablespoons of half & half) and usually either an ounce or 2 of cheese or a couple tablespoons of home made whipped cream. But, since that is almost all the fat I have, I thought it was fine. In addition to the dairy mentioned above, this is what my day looks like. I skip breakfast (have 2 cups of coffee with sucralose and half & half), for lunch I have 1 cup of 'rainbow soup' it is a vegetable soup I made with low sodium chicken broth and various vegetables, and for dinner I have 4oz of chicken with broccoli or green beans or a salad with chicken a little cheese and a tablespoon or pumpkin seeds. I like a little something sweet at night, so I made a low carb blueberry cobbler (95 calories/6g fat/2g protein) which I like to add the whipped cream to. I don't eat sugar, and I sweeten anything with either xylitol, erythritol or sucralose. Will the dairy I am eating really wreck my sway?

[atomic sagebrush]

No, you don't need to avoid all dairy, as long as you're in your limits it is fine to have dairy.

Sorry I realize now why my reply was confusing. THere are some people on here who are big believers in the French Gender Diet which has high intake of calcium as a prerequisite. Some people chose to try to achieve this by drinking a gallon of whole milk a day. That would be a massive intake of nutrients (other than calcium) in addition to the calcium. So, for the people who are big believers in the French Diet, I want them to get that high calcium intake from supps instead of drinking massvie amounts of milk. :)

Your diet looks great to me and I actually urge you to continue that full fat dairy becuase your diet is quite low in fat otherwise and I fear you may stop ovulation if you cut it out. :)

[Artisam]

I've recently began my girl sway and have enjoyed catching up on this thread!


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[marusia24l]

Hi four, sorry for not getting back more quickly but one of my older sons is taking his driving exam later this week and I've been trying to drive with him as much as I could the last few days becasue we really need for him to pass!!

IUI does sway blue. The reason why there aren't any threads about how to sway pink while doing IUI is because when you do IUI, you bypass all the things that probably sway and put sperm directly at egg. High numbers of capacitated (washed) sperm at the egg = more boys unfortunately.

You CAN'T do timed intercourse with IUI or do any swaying at all. The odds of getting pg with IUI are not super high to begin with, and you need to do whatever it takes to get pg when you do IUI. You were very lucky to get pg your first round of IUI - typically it takes more cycles than that and that is with ideal timing. If you start messing around with timing, you are only wasting your money on cycles that won't achieve pregnancy. Timing doesn't sway anyway, so you only reduce your odds of success for something that does not even sway to begin with.

My advice would be to skip the IUI and return to the Clomid (as long as you're under 35). Clomid sways pink, and while PCOS does tend to sway blue, and people do conceive both boys and girls on Clomid, there are still plenty of women with PCOS who've conceived girls on Clomid (Kate Gosselin conceived 5!)

If you have high testosterone, you're more "set" for boys regardless of what you eat. There is conflicting data on whether high dairy intake even sways pink anyway. I conceived 4 boys eating tons of dairy, one of whom was a failed sway where I was also popping cal-mag-Vit. D supps like a madwoman, then I conceived my DD while I was eating the lowest dairy intake I've ever had in my entire life. On this site we've had 15 successes of people swaying without taking cal-mag, and only 5 opposites - at the same time, the people who were taking the cal-mag and eating dairy had 13 successes and 13 opposites. The data simply does not support the idea that dairy intake sways pink. Please read the following essays for more info about that (three part essay with links in the first essay to the other two)http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/610-calcium-conundrum-controversial.html

Cake doesn't sway pink, high blood sugar sways blue so if you eat cake all day long, your blood sugar stays elevated all day. Also, if you ate cake with milk, the sugar in the cake causes your blood sugar to rise and then the protein in the milk keeps it high longer. For swaying pink, you want LOW blood sugar. Also, for people with PCOS (who cannot digest carbs as effectively as others can) the more carbs you eat, the higher your blood sugar goes and with PCOS, high blood sugar = high testosterone. You may have been swaying blue with PCOS, and a high dairy, high cake diet!!

My point is, your diet was VERY VERY VERY blue-friendly for you with your PCOS, and so I wouldn't hesitate to try swaying again with Clomid on a different diet. If that is not an option medically and you need IUI, I suggest looking into one of the sperm spinning methods and the HT crew can help you with that - you might want to message Ashkash and ask her because she went that route.


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[atomic sagebrush]

I'm sorry, did you have an additional question?

[marusia24l]

Yes this is about timing and positive opk
Please if you can help me understand this one too . what i understand reading this comments is i can only have bd if my opk is positive one attempt right?
Can we have protected bd before or is it better to wait ?
Also i was not planning to use any jell
do you think i should?



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[marusia24l]

MD, I think the vitex and then switching to soy, helped more than you know. In fact I have advised quite a few people to do that based on your experience!!!

DK if you remember Arabeth from IG but she did the exact same thing, took vitex for several months nonstop and then switched to Clomid rather than soy and also conceived a girl.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes this is about timing and positive opk
Please if you can help me understand this one too . what i understand reading this comments is i can only have bd if my opk is positive one attempt right?
Can we have protected bd before or is it better to wait ?
Also i was not planning to use any jell
do you think i should?



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I answered these in some other places I think

You can BD protected whenever

Our results show the jellies are not working, if you really believe in them, use them, if not, skip them.

[atomic sagebrush]

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All that is showing up to me in these posts is that you quote other people. Do you have a question about these?

[babybells]

So........thought I would add my girl sway in........at the time I didnt know much about swaying but did read up and tried to put some minor changes in to help TTC a girl - which worked!

I was following basically the LE diet without realising. I was really into Low GI foods, so my diet consisted of that. I rarely snacked and if I was hungry I would have a coffee or a Diet Coke.
Was a massive coffee and Diet Coke drinker. Occasional glass of white wine or 2 thrown in a few times a week.
Rarely ate breakfast.
Not a big meat eater - maybe a few times a week, more chicken or pasta with limited amount of meats.
Exercise - took the dog for a walk a few times a week , but nothing that full on.

CM was creamy and BD was AM of + OPK and PM the following day.

[beverlyjune]

This is a great thread! Thanks ladies.

[ChezIBY]

Hey everyone,

Future blue swayer here (and future Mom of baby number one, a little princess due this July :D), I’ve written a short introductory post that I've submitted in the Introduction forum :)

I would like to take the time to share details about my lifestyle prior to getting PG with our girl with you pink-swaying gals; do take into account that I knew nothing about swaying when we got her BUT in retrospect my lifestyle at the time seems to have been very pink-friendly. So here goes, hope Atomic or someone else experienced gives this a proper once-over later just to make sure I haven’t given any misleading info! (again, I am no swaying veteran!)
Our little girl was conceived last October :)

I am naturally skinny and rather on the tall side – 175cm to somewhere under sixty kilos, or around 130 lb for five feet nine. I have been making a consistent effort to exercise since a couple of years, anywhere between one and five times a week for durations of 45 – 60 minutes, but I have to underline that I mostly do running (a lot, love it) and cardio, no weight or strength lifting (I had been thinking of that as I had wanted to build some muscle up, had bought a set of weights but had not started at all at the time).
This was in the fall, after the summer, and I remember reading Atomic commenting on the good boy and girl months on here; but I doubt I had gotten much vitamin D – office job, so spent most of my time indoors, only took a week or two off that summer and live in a flat, so, no garden, no great exposure to sun, and I wasn’t taking any vitamin supplements at all.

About my diet at the time: I was eating very light meals. Never skipped breakfast, but it was always raw oats with some fruit and non-fat yoghurt, a small bowl. Lunch and dinner were mostly very light since several months – salads with dressing on the side and some ham or cheese or a hard-boiled egg, fruit smoothies, yoghurt (low-fat), berries. Low protein, low carbs, low fat (yes, I can see how this was girl-friendly… don’t judge me! I was trying to lose some weight at the time, since DH was away for work most of the summer and I wanted to look great upon his return ;) I did lose a couple of kilos, or several pounds, which sways pink as well I think.) I consumed a lot of dairy, everything low-fat or zero-fat. Not many nuts, not much meat at all – the occasional chicken breast or fish when we’d head out with a girlfriend once again, DH was away, I wasn’t motivated to cook proper meals for myself alone. And I’ve never been much of a snacker, if I suddenly got hungry before bed, I’d down a glass of low-fat milk or yoghurt.

Here you have it… As for DTD, I wasn’t really tracking things carefully at the time so I seriously doubt it happened right on O day, probably a bit before or after, and we had been on vacation the preceding month but not at the time that I became PG – things were hectic at the time at work, so I’d wager we DTD once or twice over the week-end, nothing major and yes, more in the pink dust area.

There you go! Hope this is useful for some of you, sending pink dust to those who need it (and I’ll borrow some of your blue dust when I need it ;)) and good luck to everyone swaying pink, particularly as … well, the LE diet requirements are tough, yikes. If anyone needs support on how to survive on lower calorie intakes, fire away :) Dieting and slimming down is quite the fad here in France, repeated regularly before bikini season comes up :)
Ta!

[mumof4boyz]

This thread is fantastic & I can see why I've conceived our 4 boys. This gives me hope, so thank you to everyone (no matter how long ago you posted) you have helped make this process easier to understand. Our 4th son was meant to be our last & I've managed to convince DH not to get a vesectomy as I'd love to add one more to our family regardless of gender, obviously I'd love a little more estrogen in our house :wink:

[atomic sagebrush]

Also please check out the "how we got boys" thread here! (and add your info if you haven't already, boy moms!) http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/1890-how-we-got-our-boys.html

[mumof4boyz]

Also please check out the "how we got boys" thread here! (and add your info if you haven't already, boy moms!) http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/1890-how-we-got-our-boys.html

Finally added to the "how we got our boys" thread. Hopefully everyone can see the difference in mine as I definitely notice the difference! Thanks again!

[Lindzter]

Such a wonderful, informative thread. Thank you to all the posters, past, present, and future!
Checking out the boy thread now and will add how we got our DS1 and DS2.
May the odds be ever in your favor!


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[cleopatra_2006]

I've read somewhere that mirena sways pink slightly after removal? Does any one know? X x


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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, we think that it does. I can expand upon this more in a separate thread if you would like.

[Katie.Z]

Hello all. I have two beautiful daughters. I have always been very much into working out, and particularly enjoy lifting weights. You'd probably be surprised what I can lift if you saw me as I'm petite (5'3 on my best day) and weight 115. I would say that for both girls my diet was pretty healthy, balanced, low sugar with a ton of protein. Never skipped meals. However with both girls we DTD only once. Additionally husband is a smoker (quitting now ) and was tested and came up low testosterone. I was always, until lately, a healthier eater than my husband. In the last year he also started working out a lot (Crossfit) and changed his diet in big ways. So I think in the past, his diet, low testastore, smoking, and our DTD once during fertile window swayed us majorly pink twice. I hope this helps!

[kittendreams]

Thanks Katie and good luck with your boy sway!

[Katie.Z]

Thanks so much kittendreams! All my pink dust your way!

[AshFind]

How long after removal of iud would this still apply? I had skyla which is just a smaller version on mirena removed in February just got my bfp two cycles later


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[Katie.Z]

Hi ladies. I started reading the beginning of this thread and noticed a lot of frequent BDing with girls. Just want to make sure I'm clear, it is now recommended to BD only once for pink, and 3 for blue, yes? I would love to sway blue so reading everything to gather as much as I can. Thanks!

[atomic sagebrush]

How long after removal of iud would this still apply? I had skyla which is just a smaller version on mirena removed in February just got my bfp two cycles later


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We don't know for sure, but I'd be happy with 2 cycles later!

[AshFind]

[emoji5] oh my this just made my day!


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[atomic sagebrush]

Hi ladies. I started reading the beginning of this thread and noticed a lot of frequent BDing with girls. Just want to make sure I'm clear, it is now recommended to BD only once for pink, and 3 for blue, yes? I would love to sway blue so reading everything to gather as much as I can. Thanks!

i have a full explanation of why not to do that here.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/58359-what-up-bd-thru-o-pink-lately.html

[Katie.Z]

Just re-read that entire thread. Thank you for the clarification Atomic.

[cleopatra_2006]

Yes, we think that it does. I can expand upon this more in a separate thread if you would like.

That would be great please :)


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[atomic sagebrush]

I've read somewhere that mirena sways pink slightly after removal? Does any one know? X x


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Please start a new thread and ask your question in that! :) If I start a thread there is no guarantee you will even see it!

[2curlydolls]

Hi,
I have 3 dd aged 5 , 3 and 11 months

DD1 - didn't know about swaying . Was in a bit of a stressful job with not much time to eat. Sometimes would delay breakfast a couple of hours as I am a nervous person and would often have a sore stomach in the morning. Ate cereal toast . Would snack but not big lunch. Sandwiches with ham ,tuna.rice dishes or salads. Dinner was pasta and/ or meat veg and salad. I would come home from work late and it was whatever was the quickest thing to make. Me and hubby love eating big dinners. No excersise .Hubby not much excersise. Took prenatals
DTD every second day during ovulation and a bit after.

DD2- different job less stressful , walked lots , lots of snacks but not huge meals in the day. Wanted to sway boy -took prenatals, folic, vitamin d(deficient in first 2 pregnancies ) DTD 3 times in a row before ovulation used opk. Hubby no excersise or vitamins.

Dd3 really wanted to sway gave it my best. Ate HE diet. Lots of water took liquid vitamin juice, wheatgrass , vitamin d , folic, fish oil , probotics, did weights 3 times a week and sometimes yoga. Hubby took zinc, fish oil and men's multi. Dtd one attempt after OPK . Tried to have 2 but didn't happen! Used preseed.


Ps. I have never eaten low fat anything . Dd1 I use to drink soy and almond milk but by dd2 I was onto cows milk again. Dd3 I ate heaps of good fats eggs,nuts,avo- i just ate everything. I have never dieted . Put on a couple of kg before conceive Dd3
PPS. I don't smoke or drink . I am the ocasional tea drinker . Hubby drinks beer moderately and 2 coffees a day. He has a busy and somewhat stressful job and doesn't eat big meals except dinner!

If only I could get three in a row at the pokies machine ...

[2curlydolls]

Also, we are not mega red meat eaters.. We like venison and pork 2-3 times a week . Eat mostly chicken.

[atomic sagebrush]

We've had a lot of new blue swayers the last 2 weeks - ladies, please share your experiences of how you got your girls here!!

[EmberRose]

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[atomic sagebrush]

I have three boys and am trying to sway girl. Last month I think I had a chemical pregnancy. This is month 3 for us trying and I am soooo stressed. I have not worked out in like two month I have no energy and am struggling to keep up with the do's and don'ts of swaying pink! DH drinks yerba mate everyday and works out everyday, very fit. I have been feeling so lethargic and the girl diet I am on is making me light headed. I'm about 125 lbs. and 27 any help/advice??

Can you please start a separate thread and ask in there?? This thread is really for moms who already have girls to share the type of diet and lifestyle that they were following when they conceived their girls.

[plasticserenity]

This thread is one of my favourites, I think it’s so fascinating to read everyone’s stories. I can’t contribute my own tale yet, but last night I got chatting with my mum about when she conceived me and my sister and thought I would share.

My sister is only 14 months older than me, and I’ve always known I was an oops baby! But we got talking about it in a bit more detail last night and found out some more about the circumstances. So when I was conceived it was only less than 5 months since my mum had given birth, she was breastfeeding my sister and trying to lose some baby weight, and they didn’t eat a great deal of red meat anyway. But she also said (maybe TMI!) that my sister had caused a loooot of tearing during labour and she was definitely not up for BD in the following months. So apparently they went for it just ONE time after my sister was born, and made a little me.

So mum was pretty much doing a pink sway for me 29 years ago – LE diet, breastfeeding and one attempt! I think it’s so interesting how it all fits in with what we’re doing here.

[EmberRose]

Ok maybe this is a little personal but how many of you ladies had the big O when you got pregnant with your girls? Did you avoid it? Did it just happen? TIA!

[XXforhubby]

Ok maybe this is a little personal but how many of you ladies had the big O when you got pregnant with your girls? Did you avoid it? Did it just happen? TIA!

While I only have 1 DD that I’m currently pregnant with, I can tell you it doesn’t make a difference! I didn’t have the big O with my DS2 and DS3, lots of big O with my DS1 along with tons of BDing, and only 1 attempt with 2 big O’s with my DD!

Don’t let yourself worry about this! Enjoy BDing and have a big O if you want to! This whole swaying and TTC business is hard! Let yourself enjoy your DH- that’s what I did!

🤞🏻for you!!


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[EmberRose]

While I only have 1 DD that I’m currently pregnant with, I can tell you it doesn’t make a difference! I didn’t have the big O with my DS2 and DS3, lots of big O with my DS1 along with tons of BDing, and only 1 attempt with 2 big O’s with my DD!

Don’t let yourself worry about this! Enjoy BDing and have a big O if you want to! This whole swaying and TTC business is hard! Let yourself enjoy your DH- that’s what I did!

🤞🏻for you!!


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[XXforhubby]

Thank you! We have been trying for about 7 months and I avoided the big O every attempt accept for this last one and I just got my BFP! I already have 3 boys so I'm praying this one is a girl!

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[atomic sagebrush]

Ok maybe this is a little personal but how many of you ladies had the big O when you got pregnant with your girls? Did you avoid it? Did it just happen? TIA!

I did.

[atomic sagebrush]

^^^to further elaborate, my husband gets really upset when I don't. I could never use that for a sway tactic because it's such an ego issue for him. :/

[EmberRose]

^^^to further elaborate, my husband gets really upset when I don't. I could never use that for a sway tactic because it's such an ego issue for him. :/This was how my DH was starting to feel! We had a HUGE talk/argument about it because I was adamant on not and he was starting to get mad about it. Then I remembered you told me it was important to keep the hubby happy so he didnt start getting mad about the whole sway so for our attempt I added it. But now I'm worried it ruined my sway and to top it off 4 days later he wanted to BD again so we did and I had the big O again. I took a OPK that morning though and it was negative. Is there still hope for a little princess?

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[atomic sagebrush]

Trust me, having a knock down drag out fight every time you BD is way, way worse for your sway than having an orgasm. You did the right thing. :agree:

[EmberRose]

Trust me, having a knock down drag out fight every time you BD is way, way worse for your sway than having an orgasm. You did the right thing. :agree:Thanks Atomic you always make me feel better!

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[MamaK1]

So would you ladies say 60 minutes of walking on the treadmill is good for ttc girl 6-7 days a week?

[Dreamsister]

So would you ladies say 60 minutes of walking on the treadmill is good for ttc girl 6-7 days a week?

I did that exactly and I got a girl. No running, just power/fast walking in the forest/outside 60 min non stop six days a week..


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[XXforhubby]

So would you ladies say 60 minutes of walking on the treadmill is good for ttc girl 6-7 days a week?

Or walking briskly outside. I wore my DS3 while pushing my DS2 in a stroller. We started the walk by walking my DS1 to school and then went on to make it 60+ min.


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[frankie2017]

I did that exactly and I got a girl. No running, just power/fast walking in the forest/outside 60 min non stop six days a week..


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Is your sway up somewhere Dreamsister? Would love to have a look


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[Prayingforagirl67]

Would walking 60 mins inside be ok? I often walk the mall, just so I'm not freezing, and in the summer so it wasn't too hot. I feel like I go at a decent pace and walk the full 60 mins non stop. (Not like shopping walking) I try to go 4-5 times a week.

[XXforhubby]

Would walking 60 mins inside be ok? I often walk the mall, just so I'm not freezing, and in the summer so it wasn't too hot. I feel like I go at a decent pace and walk the full 60 mins non stop. (Not like shopping walking) I try to go 4-5 times a week.

That’s great! I walked outside wearing my DS3 while pushing my DS2 in a stroller. I started by walking my DS1 to school and then going on to get the full 60min. My DS2 liked it because we would walk the nature path nearby.


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[Prayingforagirl67]

Great! Thank you! I'd love to start walking 2 days outside and then maybe even more. I'd love a change of scenery!

[atomic sagebrush]

Would walking 60 mins inside be ok? I often walk the mall, just so I'm not freezing, and in the summer so it wasn't too hot. I feel like I go at a decent pace and walk the full 60 mins non stop. (Not like shopping walking) I try to go 4-5 times a week.

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[unexpectedblessing]

Looks like it's been a while since anyone posted on this thread, but I just found out today I am having a little girl! I have an 11 yr old DS with my ex-husband. This pg was oopsie with my boyfriend and didn't sway (was avoiding, actually) so I found this website when I was trying to figure out what which gender I was more likely to be pg with this go around. I really liked this thread, so thought I would add my info:

Got pg on accident with the pull-out method - one attempt about 3 days before ovulation as far as I can tell. Big O for me.
Have always watched my calories - was skinnier and worked out a lot more when I got pg with DS, but was also dieting for about a year before I got pregnant with this one - was down about 10 lbs. Work was very busy and stressful for the past year and I didn't have time to snack and sometimes lunch would be delayed until 2 or 3 pm. Tried to eat between 1300-1500 cals per day - high protein, lower carb diet. Had two eggs and a slice of low cal toast for breakfast every morning (never ever skipped), then an eggwhite and turkey sandwich for lunch, and fat free greek yogurt with lots of equal/aspartame (scary amount) and grapes and peaches on it for dinner (I know - weird dinner) or turkey hotdog and baked cheetos. Also like PBJ with all natural peanut butter and low sugar jelly on low cal bread. LOTS of salt. No pasta or empty carbs for me besides some occasional white bread. I didn't really eat "healthy" but low cal focusing on losing weight.. No sweets ever - saved my splurges for alcohol. I drink a ton of Crystal Light too - had no idea any of this swayed. Wasn't taking any type of vitamins or supplements. I am 39 and my SO is 47 so age may play a part?
We are both big drinkers - white wine, beer, mixed drinks. We both drink a lot of coffee/caffeine. I did 3 to 4 days of cardio for 30 mins max, no weights and did not work out all that hard. lol.

Thought I would add since I enjoyed this thread while i waited to get my test results back! Panorama results came back saying I was having a healthy little girl! Good luck everyone!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much and hugest congrats!!

[AboyMatey]

When I got pregnant with Autumn (first daughter), I was eating TONS of protein, trying to eat low carb, used soy isoflavones and other supplements to increase estrogen (was trying to thicken uterine lining), had been TTC for over a year, had irregular cycles, and was doing crossfit. Here's my chart with Autumn:
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With Macy (second daughter), I was super busy with work and school, diet was terrible I'm sure, had been TTC for about 5 months (but was breastfeeding up until the month before I conceived), working out very sporadically, was switching back and forth from days and nights at work/school (so no temping), was not expecting to get pregnant.
Here's my chart with Macy:
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[Sora]

Well, I'll try to help too...

First thing first, I am a vegetarian and have been for almost 20 years. No meat, no fish. No eggs too cause I overdosed on them when I was 21 and now can't stand the taste or smell of them :tissue:

Having always had weight issues, I started to get away from fruit juices. Plus I liked them homemade and didn't have time anymore for that.
Always hated sodas so drank only water, milk and tea...

Fruits had also become a problem because they were horribly pricey in Paris. So no fruits and it stayed that way for 10 years, through college and first jobs.

But boy, did I went crazy on dairy instead ! Couldn't stay away from milk (whole and fresh out of the farm), cheese (the entire available panel in France) and yoghurt. Also loved the substitutes : almond milk, rice milk, oat milk, soy milk...

Also was a big fan of all cereals, pasta, pizza as long as it was without meat or fish, rice, quinoa... Pasta with any kind of cheese was a daily meal at home.

I used to love and frequently eat beans, peas and lentils. But around 2007 a trend invaded the country about beans, peas and such being
ennemies of weight loss and docs started to recommend getting them out of the way if you wished to be or stay slim (except maybe lentils). So I reduced them greatly and only kept lentils around. The same trend said that iceberg salad was the go-to salad if you didn't want to get fat so I only kept that as vegetables with eggplant, cucumber, spinach... One other thing, breakfast was baad (or not, depending on the day and the doc). Seeing as all my slim friends were breakfast skippers, I stopped eating in the morning. Also dinner was bad if you didn't eat soup and only soup so on days when I didn't have any soup at home, I would sometimes skip dinner entirely.

So you can say that for at least 4-5 years, I was surviving on one full meal a day.

So, when I started TTC, my entire diet consisted of dairy, cereals, and vegetables. With water and tea. And skipping meals.

For DD1, DH and I wanted a baby no matter what. I wished for a boy already but since it was only our first child, no pressure...

Since the Shettles theory is still dominant in France, we tried to DTD only once or twice as close as possible to ovulation... Didn't use opks since I have very regular cycles. We tried for 8 months + that way, didn't conceive. Finally I had enough and DTD a few times 3 days before ovulation. Missionary cause at the time I had a light urinary infection (sorry, details) and it was better for me. Worked instantly, I got pregnant.

Speaking about BD, I have been going without any kind of birth control for almost 10 years and give fertility window a wide berth. DH has good sex drive but I can go without BD for long periods of time, a habit I picked from my ex who was often far away from home because of studies and work. So not a good frequency. At all. I try to help DH release from time to time but not on a 2-4 days basis. And in France, a good chunk of people still firmly believe in abstinency = more sperm/good sperm so there is that.

DD2 was a surprise baby. DD1 was only 8 months-old, fresh out of breastfeeding. DH was crying about being forgotten and although I KNEW it was ovulation day, I let myself be moved and helped him release but not inside me. And fell asleep because we had had a rough week, instead of getting up and showering like always.
Two weeks later, I missed my period, got worried and discovered I was pregnant from that night. It was confirmed by the following ultrasounds. That night, no doubts. Turns out the sperm did survive being released outside and since I did not shower, found its way back inside and up to the egg.
Since she was conceived right on ovulation day, everyone and I mean EVERYONE around us was firmly convinced I was pregnant with a boy, including DH. I alone thougt that since I did not have time to sway (that was the plan for a second baby) and seeing the trial the little swimmers had to go through, no blue sperm could have survived.

So there it is. I do believe calcium and potassium play some part since my calcium levels were through the roof while my potassium was six feets under (got scolded twice for it). Also I didn't salt my meals, at all, haven't done it since I was 20 and had a bit of a high blood pressure episode that gave me a little scare.

Hope it will help some of you here and lots of pink dust of course !

[baby42019]

So I have two girls, one is 14, the other 10mths, different fathers.

With girl #1- I was keeping very unhealthy hours. I worked as a bartender and was out late every night, and slept in every day. Drank alcohol at least 4-6x per week. Rarely ate breakfast as I usually woke up at lunchtime.haha Drank tons of coffee/espresso throughout the day with some sort of non dairy creamer. I have always steered clear of all dairy products. I use almond milk (occasionally rice milk) for cereal. I LOVE bread and butter, all pastries and pies etc. I’m not a chocolate fan. During this time, I ate a lot of bar food, fried stuff, the occasional salad. I didn’t eat very much though, and usually never sat down for a full meal; more like snacking here and there while working and coffee is what kept me going. I also drank a lot of diet Dr Pepper and Gatorade. Like I said, I wasn’t healthy. But I did go to the gym 3-5x a week; just used the treadmill or stair stepper but didn’t go crazy. I’m not sure exactly when I conceived, but we generally had sex every other day at least, and no O for me.

Girl #2 (10mths old). When I got pregnant with this one, I was working a regular 9-5 office job. Lots of coffee still throughout the day, using soy vanilla creamer. Breakfast every day, either cereal, oatmeal, or some kind of sprouted grain bread and peanut butter. I still don’t eat dairy, use Almond milk for everything. Lunch would usually be a small soup or a small salad from the deli at work. Sometimes it was just a Jamba Juice smoothie. Snacking at my desk, usually a granola bar, or maybe a cookie, always a piece of fruit. Dinner time is always meat, vegetable, some kind of carb, but I eat very little. Usually only a bite or two of meat, a larger serving of veggie and carb. I’m just not a very hungry person. My husband says “You eat like a bird.” Haha Drank wine nearly every night, just a glass, maybe two.
During this time, I was having a rough patch emotionally and went to the dr and was extremely vitamin D deficient, was put on 20000mg tablets. I had not been on them long when I conceived. I loosely knew of timing as a way to sway for boy and thought I’d do a minimal effort attempt using timing and opk. We bd one time, O day, after abstaining for 3 days, with O for me. The night we conceived, we’d both been drinking quite heavily as we’d been at a concert.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you guys so much! These experiences are SOOOO valuable!

[aira22]

heres my :twocents:...

DD1: I was working quite a lot (also night shifts) and going out at nights a lot since I was still without children. So sleep was rare and alcohol plenty lol also did smoke occasionally. diet was poor and I skipped breakfast often because I was in a hurry in the mornings or sleeping in on weekends. It took me a few months to conceive and I used several herbal things to help....
- vitex daily throughout cycle in form of pills and later drops because my luteal phase was said to be short
- cycle-tea one from AF-O, the other one from O-AF (you need to google the exact ingredients... first one was raspberry leaf + something, second was alchemical + something)
- homeopathy "ovaria comp" AF-O and "bryophyllum comp" O-AF
can't remember BD pattern, but I guess quite often since we had no kids then
didn't sway on purpose then, the herbal things were suggested by a midwife to help get pregnant and it worked.

DD2: had the idea that since I was not sure if we should have more that two children, second child should be a boy and looked into swaying techniques. We used shettles timing which obviously did not work. This was my second ovulation after weaning DD1 who was only 6 months old.
Lifestyle was stressful bc DD1 was very demanding and I had irregular meals and bad sleep (I thought having 1 child is stressful then :rofl:). No alcohol, no smokes. I ate quite a lot but mainly carbs. Things like full grain bread, brown rice, pasta, veggies and fruits, meat only 1-2 times a week. I thought it was a healthy diet. No exercise but running around with baby in the carrier A LOT.
Again I drank my raspberry/alchemilla tea and the homeopathic globules since I thought it helped me get pregnant faster and I conceived first cycle trying.

DD3: This time I def wanted a boy. So after getting info from the internet mainly IG and GD site we decided to go HT which did not work out for several reasons... so back to swaying. swaying was only Af-O because I conceived again at first try (after failed IVF attempt and my body was still flood with all the meds and hormones). Did desperately EVERYTHING I thought would help. Mix of IG and HE diet, all supplements I could get my hands on: multivitamin, fish oil, flaxseed oil, Soy iso, CoQ10, tribulus terrestris, L-Arginine, wheatgrass powder, maca powder, pomegranate powder, BS, gelatine, AVC can't even remember all of them. Used my proven teas and globules again. took mucinex, used preseed, BS finger, but could‘t step away from timing and we DTD on O day only (twice) with 4 day cut off.

Thats pretty much it... Overall one can say, I was never starving or dieting or working out on purpose. I ate many calories but I had little to no time for good and long meals. I did snack a lot but it almost always contained carbs. So I probably had low sugar episodes often. Was for sure low on proteins with all my girls. Loved chocolate, cakes, ice cream, cookies, ate a lot of "kid's food" pasta, rice, fries, fruits, sweets also veggies (not enough) and little meat and fish. (only 1-2 times a week) I never drank pops or Diet Coke or juice or coffee nor speakable amounts of tea. Almost always tap water or carbonated water. I wasn't doing any sports ever! I'm a couch potato but I was never overweight. Obviously I got enough workout through my kids.

All (and I mean AALLLL, like truckloads) of my pink dust :HH::pinksperm::ttcgirl::DD::princess::babyf::ball erina::XX::biggirl2::cheer::HH: to you pink swayers!!! hope to catch some blue somewhere :D

[aira22]

And I forgot to mention: DH was always a frequent releaser lol (speaking of every day) so he only saved up (4-5 days) before our one shots at O (for DD2 and DD3).

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you for posting!

I just want to clarify what was posted above where she mentions "on O Day with 4 day cut off". Some of the blue swayers refer to having their husband abstain as a "cut off" as in cutting him off from sex. This is NOT referring to a Shettles cutoff where they BD 4 days before O. The PP had attempt on O Day after having her husband abstain from releaasing for 4 days beforehand.

[aira22]

Thanks for clarifying! I didn't think of it in that way - makes even more sense - but I read it always the other way round because I was only reading TTC boy threads lol

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that's something we've had confusion about in the past so I have an eagle eye for spotting it! :) Thanks so much for posting, it is very helpful!!!

[Faey]

Hey ladies, what sex position did you have with your girls? And J & D?

[atomic sagebrush]

As we already talked about but for the benefit of others wondering, I did not do j and d with my daughter and stayed laying flat all night.

[Sora]

Hey ladies, what sex position did you have with your girls? And J & D?

Missionary, no J&D but I usually get up quite quickly after BD.
And for DD2... nothing, DH released outside (on my stomach) and the sperm still swimmed back inside basically on its own ! :worry: I fell asleep right after so no J&D.

[Amel]

Can I have more info in this Atomic please. DH doesn't need to ejaculate till the day of ovulation or can he release with a condom but the day of Ovulation no condom. I am lost. If you can clarify this for me it will be great. Thank you in advance

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm not sure what you're referring to, I want you to follow the directions in your sway plan. This is a thread for women who want GIRLS not boys!!! I put directions on what to do for a boy into your sway plan!

[eerised]

all this info makes so much sense! Thanks to all you girl moms.. I know what i have to do!

[Throwaway_panther]

Missionary, no J&D but I usually get up quite quickly after BD.
And for DD2... nothing, DH released outside (on my stomach) and the sperm still swimmed back inside basically on its own ! :worry: I fell asleep right after so no J&D.

Did you guys DTD unprotected at all though? Precum has sperm too! ;)

[Sora]

Na, he never went inside that day. I knew it was O and I didn't want to get preg. Told him "whatever you do, it will be outside, same with release". :giggle:
I fell asleep right where I was. Docs said that while rolling during the night, the sperm may have trickled down and some ended up where it needed too. It's true I was all sticky everywhere in the morning.

[Throwaway_panther]

Na, he never went inside that day. I knew it was O and I didn't want to get preg. Told him "whatever you do, it will be outside, same with release". :giggle:
I fell asleep right where I was. Docs said that while rolling during the night, the sperm may have trickled down and some ended up where it needed too. It's true I was all sticky everywhere in the morning.

This is like every teenager's nightmare! :giggle:

[Sora]

So true. You see that on TV and you know it's possible but until it really happens to you, it seems so surreal...

[Nell_]

So interesting! My nan had 6 girls. She didn't eat a lot was a Mediterranean diet and not a lot of meat!! I know a few people with stomach problems very under weight they have girls too. Does metformin sway can you take it for swaying purposes only? How much?

[Nell_]

So interesting my Nan had 6 girls didn't eat alot, hardly any meat ( was a Mediterranean diet ) i have a few friends with stomach problems very under weight they have girls too. Does metformin sway can you take it for swaying purposes only if so how much?

[atomic sagebrush]

So interesting! My nan had 6 girls. She didn't eat a lot was a Mediterranean diet and not a lot of meat!! I know a few people with stomach problems very under weight they have girls too. Does metformin sway can you take it for swaying purposes only? How much?

We suspect Metformin sways but I prefer you guys not take it if you don't need. We have some trouble with people keeping weight on while swaying and Metformin will exacerbate this greatly.

[Nell_]

We suspect Metformin sways but I prefer you guys not take it if you don't need. We have some trouble with people keeping weight on while swaying and Metformin will exacerbate this greatly.

Thank you 😊

[Lexzeppelin89]

Reading all this is so interesting! I just recently found out while navigating this site that the shettles method is rubbish, so I'm still like o_0. Anyway, my middle child is a girl. I didn't do any swaying with her - however, I was dieting at the time, successfully losing weight, & frequently working out. I don't remember my diet but it was very low cal & I'm sure it was low protein. I did frequently enjoy Skinny Cow brand items for dessert. Did not smoke, I did drink but not daily or even weekly I don't think. It very well could have been a week without sex when we DTD. It was missionary (that's all my ex & I ever really did XD). My ex was not dieting but he doesn't eat very much regularly. He smokes & drinks daily. None of us took any supplements that I can remember.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks Lex! Let me know how I can help! :)

[Lilyblossom]

Having 3 girls and this is what i always do and i never know it will get me a girl.. I never had breakfast,almost everyday i skipped meals and only ate whenever i was hungry and also i don’t munch or snacking anything.. Never drink milks only ate cheese for dairy intake,not really into veggies only love salted broccoli and baby carrots.. Caffeine addict and almost everyday i drive thru for a latte.
We also bd every other day and usually after bd i tend to get up and wash up so its quite fast game and also i neved had any supplements and only ate after i confirmed bfp..

And this time we planned for a boy and it was totally a game changer!I was exactly learn a new things here and reading all in here boys sways here makes lift my spirit.

I need blue dust for my boy journey [emoji7]


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[Noemi2017]

I send u all my blue dust, good luck Lily:babym:

[Lilyblossom]

I send u all my blue dust, good luck Lily:babym:


Thank You so much Noemi!


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[Aisha11]

I have 2 girls and now i am ttc a boy, so changed a lot in my life. Want to share my experience with you.
I never had breakfast, mostly had some fruits or juice or some chocolate after 2 hours I wake up. Also I never had dinner. Only sometimes on some parties or events.
Just good big dinner.
I never drink coffee and tea. Had a lot of coke and water.
I had a lot of cardio, more cardio then weightlifting, always tried to loose some weight, though was never far [emoji16]
Both of my girls were conceived with one attempt in fertile window, 1 or 2 days before O.

Sending you all my pink dust [emoji254][emoji254][emoji254]




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[Lexzeppelin89]

Having 3 girls and this is what i always do and i never know it will get me a girl.. I never had breakfast,almost everyday i skipped meals and only ate whenever i was hungry and also i don’t munch or snacking anything.. Never drink milks only ate cheese for dairy intake,not really into veggies only love salted broccoli and baby carrots.. Caffeine addict and almost everyday i drive thru for a latte.
We also bd every other day and usually after bd i tend to get up and wash up so its quite fast game and also i neved had any supplements and only ate after i confirmed bfp..

And this time we planned for a boy and it was totally a game changer!I was exactly learn a new things here and reading all in here boys sways here makes lift my spirit.

I need blue dust for my boy journey [emoji7]


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Good luck on your boy journey!!

[emm_ily]

Having 2 girls and trying to sway for a boy, thought i'd share my girl conceptions in hopes it helps anyone! :

- Always ate a low cal diet : skim milk, all low fat dairy, cheese, sour cream etc was always low fat
- would often go long times between meals, or only eat a super light snack or breakfast
- i did eat meat at least 1-2 times a day (chicken beef pork or seafood)
- i love salt, i salt almost almost everything
- was taking a prenatal when conceived both of them
- do not smoke
- drank occasionally (socially)
- coffee is my best friend
- Cardio queen - i run outside or use the elliptical 5-6 times a week. I have always been in shape and a work out addict - more cardio than weights, for sure
- Never used OPK's with my girls, we just BD every other day or so and i didn't know much about my cycle so not sure how close to ovulation they were conceived, but we just casually BD over what i figured was fertile period and got pregnant quickly both times
- conceived my 2nd while breastfeeding my first
- conceived my 2nd right after my first postpartum period
- since i don't know exactly when either was conceived, but we typically always do missionary, they were most likely conceived that way
- i always always got up to pee RIGHT after sex. i never did the whole lay down and not get up for 15 + min thing - i was up right away peed and got on with my day.

[Shanaye Louise]

Hello everyone x

I am new to this page.

I have 2 beautiful boys and swaying girl.

I’ve read so much miss matched about swaying girls and different supps so I’m confused

I’m unsure about calcium and magnesium - some say it’s ok, others say it sways blue.

What other tips to sway a little girl?

I thought I had my swaying doubt pat but the more I read the more I freak out I’m doing something in big favour.

Is one month enough for taking supps if you recommend and I only start then or?

Thanks a lot ladies and excited to read more things!


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[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome Shanaye, I would recommend starting a new thread in order to get your questions better answered. This is mainly a thread for ladies to share how they got their girls. To start a new thread, go to the forum you want to post in (for example, here is our TTC a Boy forum https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/) click it open, and then you'll get the new post option. People sometimes miss that they have to open a forum in order to post.

I know it's confusing when different sites recommend different things but please ask ask ask, there is always a reason why.

I got all boys with cal-mag and lots of dairy, and gave it up to get my girl. I understand it's hard to walk away from that but all the other sites base their information on the same claims that are 50 years old and have been debunked by more modern information. It's up to you if you want to limit them, just be sure you don't stay on the diet very long time.

I suggest following HE Diet and having 3 attempts rather than just one, in the fertile window. In this thread there is more info about swaying than you probably ever wanted to know, LOL https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/3305-complete-index.html

We have had good results with 6 weeks on the HE Diet plus taking supplements and starting weight training. Have hubby do regular release every 2-4 days to ensure he's making a nice amount of healthy sperm.

[Dreamerangel]

Hi and welcome Shanaye, I would recommend starting a new thread in order to get your questions better answered. This is mainly a thread for ladies to share how they got their girls. To start a new thread, go to the forum you want to post in (for example, here is our TTC a Boy forum https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/) click it open, and then you'll get the new post option. People sometimes miss that they have to open a forum in order to post.

I know it's confusing when different sites recommend different things but please ask ask ask, there is always a reason why.

I got all boys with cal-mag and lots of dairy, and gave it up to get my girl. I understand it's hard to walk away from that but all the other sites base their information on the same claims that are 50 years old and have been debunked by more modern information. It's up to you if you want to limit them, just be sure you don't stay on the diet very long time.

I suggest following HE Diet and having 3 attempts rather than just one, in the fertile window. In this thread there is more info about swaying than you probably ever wanted to know, LOL https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/3305-complete-index.html

We have had good results with 6 weeks on the HE Diet plus taking supplements and starting weight training. Have hubby do regular release every 2-4 days to ensure he's making a nice amount of healthy sperm.

Hey Atomic,
here you right you got boys with cal-mag and reduced dairy. You have told me to do this to sway girl? i am confused by this thread

[atomic sagebrush]

????? I got my boys with tons of dairy. "Lots of dairy" means NOT reduced dairy. With my youngest two I was also taking cal-mag in addition to eating tons of dairy. I've always had a higher than average dairy intake my whole life, up until when I got my daughter.

The reason I have people take cal-mag is that so many people have heard of the mineral diets. If I don't include that optin in the safest way I possibly can for a sway (which is cal-mag, without vitamin D added, and dairy only within the limits of the LE Diet) many people would go ahead and take it anyway, in ways that may be more blue friendly. I don't make everyone do swaying my way and sometimes I allow people to do optional sway tactics even if I don't believe in them (I also tolerate things like timing for blue swayers and them doing minerals, even though neither works).

If you want to leave the calcium out, that is fine.

Here is what I wrote in your sway plan:
If you would like to include calcium and magnesium, that’s up to you. I do not believe they sway pink and some evidence indicates they may even sway slightly blue, but some people claim to have had success with them.
Several of us went on to conceive girls without cal/mag after getting boy opposites while swaying and taking high doses of cal/mag. Do NOT take the Vitamin D that is sometimes recommended…Vit D seems to sway strongly blue.

So if you could please explain to me what I'm missing here I could clear things up.

[hakrueg]

When I conceived my daughter sometime in late April of 2018, we weren’t really trying. It happened that ONE time when we weren’t careful. [emoji1787]

I did predominately cardio. I have always liked to run and have never been a weight lifter. It requires too much concentration for me and use exercise as an outlet.

I was finishing up nursing school so I know I wasn’t eating well. I would go prolonged periods of time without eating simply because I was busy. I’d either forget or just didn’t feel like I had time. Looking back, I probably wasn’t eating a lot of protein either. I typically would settle for like Mac n cheese, a pizza, or cereal... whatever was easy for one person. I lived alone so I didn’t cook a lot. I also wasn’t taking any vitamins at the time.

I guess I’m not the most competitive person either. I try to just do my best or improve from my last performance. I make a point to not compete with others.

As far as stress goes, I admit I do get worked up about things I can’t control and tend to feel helpless at that point. However I do have a lot of self induced stress too.

I think overall I was pretty textbook girl mom.


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[GoofyGurl]

Hi everyone, new here and swaying boy this time.

Our first was a girl and during that time I was doing a lot of cardio - about 4-5 times a week, regularly skipped breakfast and only really ate when I was hungry, so didn't snack. I had a latte every day. I also wasn't taking any supplements as we were not TTC at the time. I wasn't tracking my cycles and didn't know much about that then but we had an "oopsie" one night so I'm fairly sure it was a one attempt close to ovulation. DH was away for work for a few months so we had a long abstain followed by about a week of FR upon his return. I know we conceived towards the end of that week based on when we had the "oopsie" and then confirmed by ultrasound. DH was also doing daily cardio at that time, probably more than any other type of exercise.

Not sure if I've missed anything, but hope this helps!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you so much ladies!!

[Teamblue]

So I’ve been on and off browsing gender dreaming since finding out we were having our third daughter. She’s a year now :) but I just wanted to add my experience! I’ve never really taken vitamins except upon finding out I was pregnant and then I always got slack and quit taking them before delivering. I’ve never put any thought into my “diet.” So I never limited what I ate but I always quit when I was full. And it was nothing for me to wait until I was so hungry I was sick before I ate. Not on purpose just because I stay so busy. If I ate breakfast it was always light. I loved grabbing a candy bar and just skipping lunch. Or at least putting it off. I’ve always had a sweet tooth. I used to seriously eat candy every day. I never exercised until this past year. But I was always a busy body and never sat down. I’ve always been very thin. Going between ideal weight and underweight. I stress very easily as does hubby. He also doesn’t have a high sex drive so we normally dtd 1-3 a week. The last two girls I know for sure it was only once in my fertile window. As I was tracking and we weren’t trying. The third was a pull out baby. The second was a “let’s try” then we got too scared and decided we weren’t ready [emoji23]. Good luck ladies and I hope y’all get your girls. [emoji3590]

[Clara198237]

Love reading all
This thanks


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[Clara198237]

I love this thread. Only just found it as still getting used to the site. I’m ttc girl this month after 3 boys [emoji3590]


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[Mamaofdivaz]

Hi ladies
Newbie here hope I can help somebody swaying girl,
I’ve 3 little divas ttc boy now

With my girls it was one attempt at ovulation
1st attempt off conception pill with 1st 2girls
3rd failed IG sway again 1 attempt (never change diet)

Diet was very bad,no breakfast or lunch
Snacked on fizzy juice coffee and chocolate bars
Coffee 5/6 cups a day 2 sugars
No multi vits never worked out
Smoked cigarettes

If anyone has any questions please ask happy to help

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you so much!!!