November 2013 babies!

[bythestream]

Yes it's very quiet on here, I'm doing well had a check up yesterday and everything is great.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Good news, bythe******! My next appointment isn't until July 31st and it's the fun glucose test!! haha

Mommymachine, how are you doing? Sorry, I think I might have not said congrats on your girl! So excited for you too.

Are we all done with the gender scans now? Does everyone know? I am so happy it's all over, but it was fun waiting to hear everyone's news!

[mommymachine]

Thanks! My next doctors appointment isn't until August 6th, not sure why she made it 5 weeks instead of 4. Oh well. Then I think she will send me for glucose testing and the rhogam shot. DH and I have paid for another private scan which is August 3rd. We get DVDs of all the kids when I'm pregnant with them. It's just tradition now.

[bythestream]

Oh Id love to get another scan and a dvd but nowhere near me does private scans. I have to have the glucose test next time too. The midwife told me everyone needs to do the 2hr fasting one too, boo. It just used to be 1hr and you didn't have to fast. Who had 2 hrs to suit there? I'll have to find a good book.

[zem7]

I don't know when we have to do our test, not looking forward to it. I have always passed, but it makes me feel sick every time... I would not like to do a 2 hour one either! Anyone else still feeling sleepy all the time? I just can't shake it, never remember that lasting this long with my last 4...

[bythestream]

My tiredness went away then came back again about 19 weeks for a few weeks. It's a pain isn't it? But maybe it's because you have 4 other kids to look after Zem?

[Lizzie Lizard]

So sorry you are feeling tired. I am guessing it is the pregnancy and keeping up with the others! I was so so fatigued at the end of the 1st tri, but fingers crossed still feeling really good.

bythe******, that is harsh! Mine is still an hour. They let me drink it at home though and I just have to be there 1 hour later to get my blood drawn. Two hours is really long! I am craving so many more sweets this pregnancy. I worry I will fail!

[zem7]

So what is the first thing everyone is looking forward to after baby gets here, other then the obvious, baby..lol? I am looking forward to sleeping oh my back and stomach....OHH I wish I could sleep on my stomach. err. lol

[zem7]

Would also like to add, I miss normal sex LOL!

[mommymachine]

I'm looking forward to sleeping ony stomach, a hot bath and a glass of white wine.

[Lizzie Lizard]

You said it girls! Wanting all that too. I would like some sushi please too!

[BabyGirl4Me]

Sounds like you are all doing well! I am looking forward to not having frequent heartburn anymore and losing the baby weight I put on already and feeling less rolly polly overall, lol.

Feel free to pass judgement on me but I do eat sushi while pregnant. Granted, I only eat it from restaurants or the high end grocery store by us because of the preparation, but I still eat it. The fish itself is frozen to kill any parasites hanging out in there before it's thawed out and made into sushi.

Japanese women do not give up sushi while pregnant either. Japan's health ministry is fanatical about public health and if there was significant evidence to back up that pregnant women really shouldn't eat sushi, there would be a massive public awareness campaign and movements to stop women from eating sushi.

Anyway, that's why I still eat sushi while pregnant but anyone who still doesn't feel comfortable certainly doesn't have to - to each their own! It's still a good idea to avoid or have small servings of the fish with a higher mercury content though.

[Lizzie Lizard]

I totally agree, Babygirl4me. I should just eat it. My friend started eating it half-way through her pregnancy.

Funny too I will eat soft cheese and deli meats (also a source for listeria). I don't know why I get the guilt with sushi? There was a chance I was going to Japan for work during my pregnancy. I figured I would eat the sushi over there... why not here too? ha

[mommymachine]

I thought it was the mercury in sushi as to why pregnant women can't eat it? I don't like seafood so it's not a hard choice for me. I do eat deli meats. I make sure all soft cheese is pasteurized. I also don't drink herbal teas just because I heard it wasn't safe...not sure if there is any truth to that??? But, I'm extremely guilty of having WAY too much caffeine.

[zem7]

I also don't care much for fish, so don't have a problem with not eating it. I don't change really how I eat what so ever. Still get my steaks medium rare, still eat deli meat, still eat cheese, still eat soft serve ice cream. Have with all of my pregnancies so far, they all turned out fine lol. So just now, my cat was laying on my stomach. Well apparently the baby didn't like that, so she kicked right where the cat was at. The cat jumped off me so fast and turned around and looked at me like I just shot it....HAHA!!

[bythestream]

That's funny about the cat Zem. My boys always used to kick my husband whenever we hugged. This is likely my last pregnancy so Im trying to savour it, that being said In looking forward to having more energy. I basically got no sleep last night with bad weather, baby kicks, reflux, 5yo not sleeping and sick husband sleep just didn't happen.

DH had been sick for a week and not much help even though he's supposed to be on holidays. I've booked him into the dr today even though he didn't want to go.

[Lizzie Lizard]

You poor thing, bythe******! I have to do that with my husband. Funny how if I am sick I get maybe 1-2 days to get better, but my hubby drags things on... haha

I usually ending up booking him an appointment because I have had enough too! He got this terrible case of poison oak and dragged him into my dermo to get a shot finally! Why prolong the misery?!?

Zem7, hilarious about the cat, but I'm not supposed to eat soft serve ice cream?? Whoops! Just had a vanilla cone at mcDonald's today. Can't give that up!

I am a big tea drinker (well, I have 1 cup of green tea in the morning and don't drink coffee) I asked my doc about the herbal teas. She said some of them were bad for you?? I still thought it was crazy and when I pushed her on it she said "everything in moderation".I had not heard that in my first pregnancy.

Yes, I am assuming this is my last pregnancy too so trying to enjoy it. Although I went to yoga today and not sure how much longer I can go. It's difficult for me to even lay on my back at the end and relax!

[Lizzie Lizard]

She's in labor!! Or labour as they would say... haha. So excited!!! It's gotta be a girl, right?

[zem7]

I think its a girl also. Wonder if she will have the baby today or tomorrow....

[zem7]

Well I guess it was today! lol I was also totally wrong, its a boy.

[Lizzie Lizard]

I am worthless at guessing even my own! I don't know why I thought I could guess hers. I thought boy at the very beginning and then switched to girl. (Which is what I did with my own- thought girl then switched to boy and was wrong!)

It seems fitting somehow. I am so excited for them! Dying to know the details of her labor. I'll ask her the next time we have tea!

[bythestream]

Lol Lizzie

[zem7]

So ladies, I have a question, I know I should remember this stuff, this being pregnancy number 5 and all. I just can't for the life of me remember if this is something that happened with the others or not. I am 21 weeks, I have been feeling baby move for weeks now, most of the time big movements. Yesterday, last night, and today I have felt very little to no movement. What I do feel is slight movements. Is this something normal or should I worry (I am already worried). Last night I was up almost all night hoping to feel her move some, but seriously, I never felt her move. I did feel some small movements this morning but that has been it.... Help please.

[mommymachine]

Zem, they have quiet days. With my others I've noticed a pattern. One of them was 2 days active then 1 day slow. I haven't noticed a pattern with this one but she for sure has quieter days. She is sooooo active this morning. If your worried...go in. It takes twenty minutes for them to do a trace on baby an it's completely worth it. Always trust your instincts!!!

[bythestream]

Have you tried having some ice water Zem, she might have just moved into a spot where is tricky to feel her. Thinking of you.

[zem7]

So yesterday I talked to my Dr. we decided to wait her out and see if she was just facing my back or something. FINALLY she started moving about an hour ago. It has been a long 2 days and nights....On a happy note, excited to go see family this weekend, we are doing our firework then, since we haven't been around anyone for so long. Finally going to be able to reveal that this baby is a girl also, so excited lol.

[bythestream]

So glad all is ok Zem. Enjoy the time with your family.

[mommymachine]

Awesome news Zem!

[Lizzie Lizard]

Sorry, girls I haven't been on much this week! Missed you all!

Zem so glad she started to kick again. I hope you are nejoying your family time!

Mommymachine, I was glad to read your post. Mine will go almost 24 hours of full on kicking, then nothing. I don't remember this with my first. One night I just got up and read a book because I literally couldn't go back to sleep with all the kicking. Then she went silent and for another whole 24 hours I couldn't feel anything. It made me nervous too, but then I felt so little kicks.

This might be terrible advice, I heard this long before I was even married! I remember my coworkers wife was worried and her doc told her (again this was like 10 years ago!) to drink a half of a coke or something with caffeine and then lay down on your side and be really still. Not sure they would tell a woman to drink caffeine now, but I always remembered that.

xoxo

[mommymachine]

That's right! But drinking a cold glass of water or orange juice works well too.
And your left side.

[bythestream]

My bub kicks all the time, I don't think I had to worry about not feeling it with the anterior placenta. I'm wondering if she's had down and posterior. Both my boys were very early. Hopefully I can convince her to rotate before birth.

[bythestream]

Do you know why they say the left side mommymachine? My placenta is on the left so I find the right more comfortable.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Yes, why do they say left side? I don't find one side more comfortable than the other. Usually I just have to switch bc one side is "falling asleep" with blood flow.

[zem7]

It is because a major blood vessel runs down, if you lay on that side it gives you optimum oxygenation for the body and baby. That is way they say if you are feeling dizzy while pregnant to drink a glass of water and get on the left side.

[zem7]

Although, it is still perfectly safe to be on the right side also. My dr. told me to listen to my body, if I feel more comfortable on one side, go with it. We even found that to be the case for when we deliver. My last baby, during delivery, did NOT like when I was on the left side. His HB would slow way down, he only liked the right side. ~~We told my family this weekend we were having a girl, they are soo excited! lol My mom already went out and got some girl cloths!

[meeks32]

Just dropping in to ask if everyone that swayed GIRL and knows what they are having, can please update/post their sway in the stats spreadsheet via the form?

http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25157

pg1 first post has instructions.

Thank You

[mommymachine]

I didn't know why just was always what i heard. But I just found this:
Sleeping Positions During Pregnancy | APA on Sleeping Positions (http://americanpregnancy.org/pregnancyhealth/sleepingpositions.html)

[zem7]

Ok so I posted this as a question, in the parenting group, but I thought I would also ask you ladies. Ok so I have had 4 children, with each of them I have tried to BF but never made it past a month with any of them. I am currently pregnant with baby 5 and truly want to try to BF for the first year. My big problem with the others was, I just didn't enjoy it. I hear a lot of people talking about how they like the bonding time and how special it is. But I just never got this feeling, I felt the same using breast or bottle. I loved my babies, loved being with them, holding them, feeding them, and playing with them. I just never enjoyed this....Is there something wrong with me, for not liking it? What can I do to make it better. Sorry this is such an odd question, I just want some support. Also no one in my family breast fed more then a month either, so they are not much help....

[bythestream]

Zem, I think the key is to stick with it for more than a month. Breastfeeding is hard especially to start with and you need to do it for 6-12 weeks before you really settle into it. That was the case for me anyway. I found it so much easier than fussing with bottles though. Breastfeeding is great because it's always there ready no matter where you are. Do you have any foundations in the states that can offer support. The Australian breastfeeding association is always ready to answer questions, and if you ask the right people you can get the help of fantastic lactation consultants.

[squamgirl]

I've been gone for a couple weeks now with family vacation. But I'm back now and hope to contribute more.

Zem- I think bythe****** is right. The first 6-12 weeks are hard- sore nipples, trying to figure out latching on, etc. It also depends on the baby. My first never latched well, had a hard time nursing, etc. He was also severely allergic to milk proteins, which transferred from what I ate and drank into the breast milk. After 3 1/2 months we called it quits and switched to formula and it was the best decision for us. My second latched on right after birth and nursed like a champ for 22 months. I'm hoping for another good nurser again.
Whether you breastfeed or bottlefeed, you're a great mom and you're doing the best for your baby. If you want to breastfeed, give it a good try, hang in there awhile, research tips and techniques and find support. And if it doesn't work out, you'll know that you've given it your best.

[bythestream]

Welcome back Squamgirl!

[squamgirl]

My boys and I went shopping today for a gift for a baby shower.
While shopping, my boys found some onesies that they begged me to buy. I couldn't resist. It's my first purchase (aside from a generic sling) for my baby girl.

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Have ya'll started making purchases?

[bythestream]

Oh very cute, yes I've bought a few things. Got carried away to start with then have been trying to control myself since then, lol. But I did buy this for bub to wear at my sisters wedding one month after due date

Girls' Sunray Pleated Dress - White - Target Australia (http://shop.target.com.au/p/girls-sunray-pleated-dress-white/P53843616)

[squamgirl]

bythe******- that is beautiful!!! We're looking for a dress similar to that for a religious ceremony when our daughter will be almost a month old.
So beautiful! Love it!

[zem7]

Personally we haven't gotten anything, but my family and a few friends have been going crazy! lol I don't even think I am going to have to buy any girl cloths for a while (which is totally fine with me)! So we got all of our kids back to school shopping done today. can not believe that they will be starting back up in 2 weeks.

[BabyGirl4Me]

Wow, lots of people are buying so many cute things for their little ones. :)

For those who swayed pink and got blue...I must say that while browsing baby things I am seeing so many super cute gender neutral baby clothes these days in the stores. Wish they would have had them when I was dealing with GD for DS. Ah well.

I did buy a few more things for DD and every time I do I make sure I get something for DS too to make sure I don't favor one over the other.

I've been looking for a "big brother" shirt for DS who is 18 months but can't find any in the stores. They all say "little brother" in his size. :(

[zem7]

I am having huge problems with people giving me cloths, that wont be in season.....I love that they are thinking of our baby, but she will never be able to have on a summer outfit in November.... Do I say something to these people, or just except them and say thank you??? So far I have just been saying how grateful I am and thank them.

[mommymachine]

Beautiful purchases ladies! I have something coming from Etsy - Your place to buy and sell all things handmade, vintage, and supplies (http://www.etsy.com). Babygirl4me you would get a big brother shirt in his size from there, that's where I got DD big sister shirt (who is 19 months today). I don't need to buy too much since DD was born in January and this one is end of November. But will need to buy her a Christmas dress. It's going to be a scramble to get Christmas pictures done this year. Going to have to get them when DD2 is only a week old or so!

[dreaminginoz]

Sorry ive been missing for a while, ive been very busy with my boys and am generally exhausted! SO cute your purchases girls. I too have been a little crazy but have now slowed down and dont even go looking when im out...ive had to move onto the big items as we didnt keep anything from our boys, so had to buy a new pram/cot etc...hope everyone is doing well and i dont know about the rest of you but i can not wait for the next few months to be over and i can have my body back because this pregnancy is the most uncomfortable one ive had :)

[Lizzie Lizard]

I have not bought anything! My sister sent me some pink and I am at home in Texas and my mom mother bought some things for me too. I still am not wrapping my head around it!! :)

All the stuff above is darling! I need to get on it. I did try the other day, but everything was so summery and the sale summer stuff seemed so far away... I like sale stuff. ha

I am getting uncomfortable too. Sleeping is getting hard. I don't remember it starting this early last time.

[zem7]

So for those of you who have gotten heart burn, I can now relate. Please don't get mad, but I got it for the first time ever last night. Man the name is true, it burns! lol Had to even ask my DH to make sure that is what I was feeling...

[bythestream]

Oops just bought more. For those Aussie girls bonds has 40% of when you buy 4 items. I can't resist bonds so I bought something each for the boys and then a couple of things for bub.

Oh poor you Zem heartburn sucks. Have you got something you can take? Here there are a few brands you can get from the supermarket that are fine while you're pregnant. Tums or Rennie are good if you have either of those there. I haven't had much heartburn just reflux which isn't nice either.

[bythestream]

Anyone else had bub reach their ribs yet. She was gently rubbing my ribs the other night. I'm hoping she's not as bad as ds2 he was brutal with my ribs, he used to jam his foot up in the skin above the ribs, hurt so much. I used to have to grab his foot and push it back down.

[zem7]

yeah we have tums here, haven't heard of the other though. I tried them out, but didn't seem to make much of a difference. I have felt her move almost everywhere! They were saying that she was about a week bigger last US, I know that they can be off. She does get the hiccups all the time though, I think I have been feeling her have them since around 21 weeks, but didn't realize that was what she was having till about 5 days ago...lol She gets them like 10 times a day, usually lasting 20 min....lol Poor girl.

[bythestream]

Cute, I was wondering if it's been hiccups that I've felt recently but I was wondering if it's too early and they don't seem to last very long.

[squamgirl]

zem- I had heartburn with my first, then got full-blown acid reflux with my second which lasted SIX years until I went to acupuncture to cure it. But it came back with a fury in this pregnancy. Having said that, I have a few tips I can give you...

-soda/pop/coke/whatever you call it in your region will make it much worse. I avoid it like the plague.
-chocolate can aggravate it, but I love chocolate too much and it's my sanity during the summer with kids home, so I just try not to be too naughty with it.
-spicy foods will also aggravate it, which really stinks because I would love some good guacamole or pico de gallo with my tacos. I settle for plain avocado instead (and hey- I'm getting good nutrition and good fats with it).
-Dr Andrew Weil (natural medicine doc) says that pistachios are good for the GI tract. I don't think that they really helped with my acid, but I sure enjoy eating them anyway.
-APPLES, APPLES, APPLES!!! I learned a couple years ago that apples will help help with heartburn and acid reflux and it is true. I eat at least one apple a day as a preventative measure. And if I'm feeling symptoms, I eat another one and it almost always helps.
-Prevacid. My acid reflux is so bad that even with all the tricks, I still need to take Prevacid daily. I take it in the morning 30 minutes before eating (it's important to give it that 30 minutes to do it's prep work, but also don't wait longer to eat).

I hope these tips help you.

[BabyGirl4Me]

Squamgirl thanks so much for the advice on heartburn. Mine's been horrible! I feel like a fire breathing dragon. I've been taking the max dose of tums for a while now. I got some tips to try from the midwives including smaller meals and not drinking while eating. I'll have to let go of chocolate and soda. But, starting tomorrow. I want it today, lol. I'll have to try pistachios and apples too. Yum yum!

I remember how much I hated the pain in my ribcage once my DS got bigger. Ugh, I am not looking forward to that at all. :(

[mommymachine]

There's. max dose?!? Oh no, I've been popping them like candy. Plus, I'm allergic to apples:(

24 weeks today!! Officially at viability:)

[Lizzie Lizard]

Squamgirl? 6 years?? Bless you, sister! That sounds miserable. Thanks for the tips! I didn't know about apples!

[BabyGirl4Me]

Yes there is a max dose in a 24 hr period on antacids. Check the label.

[zem7]

Tomorrow I am 24 weeks, so happy to reach this week. I have a Dr. apt. tomorrow afternoon, wonder if I will have gained weight. I am pretty sure I have finally broke my pre pregnancy weight. When should I discuss my birth plan with my Dr.? Have you all already, or are you waiting till closer to 30 weeks?

[bythestream]

I was 26 weeks yesterday, time is flying now. I have discussed a few things with my midwives Zem, just asking questions mostly. But because I'll be birthing at the hospital I don't know which midwife I'll have. I have been blessed to have really great midwives both other times so hopefully this time is the same. I just want a natural birth no dis or intervention unless it's necessary. Last time that worked well, I have actually never been offered any in labour and only asked for gas towards the end last time and my husband told me it would probably make me feel sick but looking back now I think I was in transition at that point.

I'd like to do delayed cord clamping and the midwife I asked said that shouldn't be a problem as long as there are no complications so I'll make sure my DH reminds the midwives at the time.

[Lizzie Lizard]

I am 26 weeks too and just got my diabetes test results back... I'm good! I was a little worried. With my son I craved like mac and cheese and things like that. With this one I crave sweets, fruit, bread aka sugar! Just felt like I have been eating a lot of sweets.

[Lizzie Lizard]

You girls are planners! Have not even thought about birth plans! :)

[zem7]

So had my 24 week visit today. I am measuring a week ahead, so happy with that. I so far have gained 6 pounds. I told the Dr. today that in the event should this baby be breach by delivery time, I refuse to have a C section for it. He was so shocked, went to tell me that it wasn't recommended. Saying it is ok for a twin mom to birth the second baby if breach, but much more goes wrong with a single baby pregnancy. He did eventually say that if that did happen, he would be willing to help transfer me to a bigger hospital that does do breach births. I think he may have just gotten the first dose that I will not be the regular push over pregnant women, wonder what he will say at my 28 week visit when I present him with my birth plan.....LOL I also get to take my diabetes test next visit, that should be so much fun!

[BabyGirl4Me]

Looks like everyone is getting good bills of health. That is excellent news! I take the diabetes test at my next visit in September. They were very nice and gave me half the drink to take home so I can take it at home and not have to come in early and keep DS occupied at the clinic while I wait for the sugary stuff to take its effect.

Overall things are good. I've been feeling very tired lately, almost feels like I have no energy. :( The heartburn is still bad but I've been trying to avoid chocolate and soda to the best of my ability. DH brought home some apples and they seem to be helping too. Just sitting up more often is also helping.

Time is flying when I look at the calendar but it also feels like things are moving so slow! I am excited to have this little baby to love and play with. I wish she could come out sooner and be with us. :)

[squamgirl]

Here's a question for everyone today...

Cord blood banking- are you doing it?

We're undecided. It's a pretty big expense and we don't know if it will be worth it or not. It's almost $2,000 upfront cost and then $130 per year for storage.

[mommymachine]

I did it was DS3 and DD. the initial cost is high but storage is only $110 a year. However, they got a low volume of blood with DS3 which can sometimes happen. I chose to store it anyway. We are undecided about whether or not to do it a third time. We would get a discount for a third time but then we'd be paying $330 a year to store. I feel we should. But we have lots of time to think it over.

[zem7]

We never did, too expensive. Plus I like to wait till the cord is done pulsating before cutting it....

[squamgirl]

zem- that was one of my concerns... I want to do delayed cord clamping and figured cord blood banking wouldn't be a possibility if we do that. Plus the expense.
My dr wants to know my choice at my appt on Wed so we're trying to figure out what to do.

[zem7]

Excited for this weekend and next weekend. This weekend we are taking our kids to a water park for the weekend. Next weekend we are all going camping. should be interesting. lol Hopefully I can sleep in a tent with this big belly....HAHA.

[bythestream]

Sounds like fun Zem, we decided to go on a holiday to and I'll be 33 going on 34 weeks then. No sleeping in a tent but hopefully I'm not too tired to do anything. We haven't ever done cord blood banking and probably won't this time, I want to have delayed cord clamping too.

[Lizzie Lizard]

So glad to hear about you girls planning trips. My hubby has a work thing in northern cali beginning of oct. I have taken Jack with me home to texas and on a short trip to visit a friend, but as a family we have not done anything! My hubby's busy time at work is the summer.

Anyway, Zem, not so brave for a tent, but still looking forward to getting out! Hope you have a great time!

[BabyGirl4Me]

Oh Zem you are so brave! I am starting to have a hard time sleeping in my bed even with pregnancy pillows. I can't even imagine sleeping in a tent right now.

Hope everyone enjoys their vacations. I'm so sad that summer is winding down, but so happy that I get to hold my baby this fall. :)

[squamgirl]

Hey ladies- I'm having a really emotional time right now....

I had bloodwork yesterday that came back that I'm slightly anemic and my thyroid level is low. Now I'll be starting medication for that. Reading up on it I found that if I don't treat the thyroid issues, there could be developmental delays. I hope the treatment we're starting takes care of it. I also read that the thyroid issue could cause miscarriages and I've had two, so I have to wonder if that played a role in those.

I also had bloodwork this morning to test for IPC (Home (http://www.icpcare.org)). If I have IPC, I'll need to start medication for that and I'll need to deliver by 37 weeks because there is a significant risk for stillbirth after 37 weeks. The lab said to expect the results in 2 weeks. I guess I just get to worry until then.

Not sure exactly why I'm sharing this- I guess I just need to get it out there and talk about it.

I hope everyone else is doing well and staying complication free.

[zem7]

So sorry you have to take the meds and all, hopefully the bloods come back just fine and you don't have to worry about the IPC as well. I know not much encouragement on my part, all I can say is everything will work out... That's what I always tell myself in these kind of situations.

[bythestream]

Sorry you're having a hard time Squamgirl, there are lots of things that can cause miscarriage and is so common, please don't blame yourself. And Im sure this bub will be fine developmentally. I went to have my glucose tolerance test the other day and the hospital asked if Id be part of a trial on thyroid function in pregnancy, my results aren't back yet so I don't know how mine is. The test isn't usually done here even though our iodine levels are really low.

[bythestream]

I hoe you don't have IPC too, that can be nasty.

[squamgirl]

Thanks ladies!

I don't mind taking the medication if it means I'm doing something good for the baby. I just hope it's the correct course of action.
I have a lot of the symptoms for IPC, so I'm hoping that if it is IPC, my dr will take it seriously and do whatever is necessary to keep my baby safe.

Basically, all I want right now is for my baby to be safe.

[dloui128]

Hey ladies- I'm having a really emotional time right now....

I had bloodwork yesterday that came back that I'm slightly anemic and my thyroid level is low. Now I'll be starting medication for that. Reading up on it I found that if I don't treat the thyroid issues, there could be developmental delays. I hope the treatment we're starting takes care of it. I also read that the thyroid issue could cause miscarriages and I've had two, so I have to wonder if that played a role in those.

I also had bloodwork this morning to test for IPC (Home (http://www.icpcare.org)). If I have IPC, I'll need to start medication for that and I'll need to deliver by 37 weeks because there is a significant risk for stillbirth after 37 weeks. The lab said to expect the results in 2 weeks. I guess I just get to worry until then.

Not sure exactly why I'm sharing this- I guess I just need to get it out there and talk about it.

I hope everyone else is doing well and staying complication free.

hey sorry to crash your thread, but Pinkin2011 had IPC with both of her pregancies I believe, she has two healthy babies, maybe you could pm her to put your mind at ease

[squamgirl]

hey sorry to crash your thread, but Pinkin2011 had IPC with both of her pregancies I believe, she has two healthy babies, maybe you could pm her to put your mind at ease

Thanks!

[bythestream]

Yes, it would be good to have a diagnosis if that's what it is Squamgirl. Thinking of you and hoping they figure it out.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Squamgirl, so sorry to hear your latest news. I am sure there is nothing wrong developmentally with your sweet bub. Don't waste time worry about that (but I am sure it's hard). Fingers crossed you don't have IPC. I didn't even know what that was! Keep us posted and try not to worry (although I am sure that is impossible to do). As I said before, its always the waiting that is the hardest part.

Thinking of you! xoxo

[mommymachine]

I'm so sorry. I hope the blood work shows everything is just fine. If you don't mind me asking, what are the symptoms??

[squamgirl]

I'm so sorry. I hope the blood work shows everything is just fine. If you don't mind me asking, what are the symptoms??

I don't mind at all...
The symptoms are:
-itching all over, especially on the palms and soles. The itching is worse at night (I have this- it's driving me insane. And it's disturbing to find blood spots on your pajamas and sheets from where you've scratched so hard you bleed)
-dark urine or pale stools (I don't have this)
-preterm labor (too early to say)
-jaundice (don't have this)
-upper right quadrant pain (I have this and the pain of it takes my breath away sometimes)
-nausea (I haven't had this, except for this morning during church)
-fatigue or exhaustion (I have this- I feel like my arms and legs have been dipped in concrete)
-loss of appetite (don't have this)
-mild depression (hard to say.... I cry so easily and get overwhelmed and scared, but I'm also on my fifth pregnancy and have lost two previously, so it could be a number of factors)

I hope the results come back soon!

[Lizzie Lizard]

It sounds so horrible... so so sorry!

[mommymachine]

Oh wow. That's terrible. I'm SO sorry. Is it a test they always do in pregnancy or only when symptoms happen?

[squamgirl]

Oh wow. That's terrible. I'm SO sorry. Is it a test they always do in pregnancy or only when symptoms happen?

They only test it when symptoms are present (and in my case, you've done research and ask for the test).
Labs came back today as "normal." However, what the dr says is normal and what all my research says does not agree. I have an appt with my dr tomorrow morning to discuss it. If it were just the annoying itching, that would be one thing... but if not properly treated, there can be stillbirth for the baby and post-delivery hemorrhaging for the mother. So I want to make sure we know what we're dealing with.

[Lizzie Lizard]

So sorry, Squamgirl. You stay on them! You know your body better than them. Trust your instinct. Hope it gets better! xoxo

[squamgirl]

Thanks Lizzie!

I had more blood work done this morning, along with an ultrasound on my gallbladder. Now I just get to wait again for results. *sigh*

[mommymachine]

If your instincts are telling you that something isn't right you make sure to keep pushing the doctors!!!

[BabyGirl4Me]

If your instincts are telling you that something isn't right you make sure to keep pushing the doctors!!!

Agreed 100%. Trust your gut Squamgirl. Hoping for the best possible outcome for you and your baby.

[squamgirl]

I've been pushing them. I've turned on the Mama Bear Mode. When I saw them yesterday, I had scholarly articles printed out and highlighted. They listened to me and ordered a repeat of the blood work and then the ultrasound (to rule out gallstones). I'll hear back next week and hopefully be referred to a MFM dr.

Thank you all for the support. Moms rock!

[zem7]

Ok, so after this baby is born I plan to try out baby wearing this time. I want to use a sling, that is good to use hands free, breast feeding, and while the baby gets older. I am smaller when not pregnant, just over 5 ft. I am usually around 120 pounds. Got any ideas?

[BabyGirl4Me]

Zem - I had a maya wrap that I really liked. It's great for when they are bitty. When DS got a little bigger I moved up to an infantino carrier that I got on sale with a coupon - great buy and my DS still fits in it at around 23lbs if I need to use it. I just don't like strollers when they're that little.

[squamgirl]

zem- I got one of these months ago when they had a code to get it for free and all I had to pay was the shipping... Seven (http://www.sevenslings.com/).... I wonder if you join their mailing list if they might offer a free code again. I've gotten a code a couple times since getting my sling.
For my second son I used a mei tai that someone made and I LOVED using it.

[bythestream]

I ordered a free one of those Seven slings the other day, I haven't got it yet so I can't say how good it is. Try the code WTE

[BabyGirl4Me]

I got one of those seven slings too and was a bit disappointed with it. I like the maya wrap much better because of the long tail (good for breastfeeding) and the ability to adjust baby in more ways with a seven sling.

I'm almost 27 weeks and last time they checked baby was still right side up. Has anyone's baby turned head down yet? DS was head down for a long time in the pregnancy so I'm getting a little worried with this one. I know it's silly but I really want to have another easy home birth so I hope my baby flips soon.

[zem7]

My babies are usually head down by 29 weeks. Last check up she was still head up, I am not worried about it yet though. I did tell my dr though that I will deliver a breach baby. I have had 4 babies vaginally, so I know I would be able to deliver a breach one.

[bythestream]

Mine was head down last time, I think she still is. Hopefully she stays that way.

[Lizzie Lizard]

I go in this morning to the OB and I was going to ask where she was... She is moving so much! My stomach was completely lop-sided last night. It was funny.

In other news, my son told his favorite preschool teacher that "we don't want him anymore because we have a baby coming". I felt so bad when I first heard, then I was kinda annoyed. We really haven't done anything for this baby yet that has impacted his life. (I get that it still is a change and I should be sympathetic.) Mostly, I just know him and I think he was trying to get attention at school from his favorite teacher!

When he got home I talked to him and he seemed surprised I knew. haha He said he was just kidding? I told him he loved him and would not give him up for all the babies in the world and then he switched to he never said it.

You guys ever go through something like this with your kids?

[mommymachine]

Maya wrap is great for little babies. DD lived in hers the first 6 weeks. I got a ring sling for this baby. Excited to try it out.
DS2 (my 34 weeker) flipped around constantly until birth. He was so tiny though. He just happened to be head down the day I went for an emergency induction.

[bythestream]

Sorry to hear you are having trouble with your ds Lizzie. He might just be apprehensive about the new arrival. It's probably a good idea to let him share his concerns so you can get it all out in the open. A new sibling can be a massive adjustment. I'm hoping my boys cope ok but you can never tell until it happens.

[BabyGirl4Me]

Speaking of troubles with DS, mine has been flat out rotten the past few days. He is outraged that I won't let him color on our furniture, eat his crayons or that I make him eat with a baby fork vs adult size. It's like the end of the world for him and the screaming is pressing my buttons. Ugh, feels like everything I do makes it worse. Sometimes he's a great kid but other times he's so difficult. I am getting very worried about how he's going to react when the new baby comes. I'm not sure why he's acting up so much now. I have been very uncomfortable with my growing bump and not sleeping well so my temper is short right now anyway. I also have constant heartburn now which is making things more difficult too. Sorry, just had to vent.

[zem7]

Just bought my first ring sling! lol I am so excited for it to get here, so I can start learning how to use it. May have to use one of Brooklyn's dolls haha. Have had a pretty good week, same pains as always, BH contractions non stop, joys of a irritable uterus.... My stomach also feels so full? I feel like I am in for a big belly growth soon. Am also starting to feel sick again after I eat meals.... Thought I got rid of that in the first tri. For the most part I am not worried at how my kids will take the new baby. That's only because they are all still pretty young and having babies around doesn't seem that odd to them, I guess. The only one I am worried about is our youngest DS, he will be 2 in December. He is sooo clingy compared to the rest of the kids, I am worried at how he will react to having me hold a baby all the time. That's another big reason I am wanting the sling. I am hoping that if I am holding the baby in it and he wants to be held by me or something, I can still have my arms/hip open for him to join us. Also he may not notice as much because he won't be able to see the baby well if she is in the sling. Just a thought I guess. Hope everyone is well. We are doing NOTHING this weekend! I love going out and doing things as a family, but sometimes its nice to not have any plans what so ever for an entire weekend (extended to boot).

[Lizzie Lizard]

Babygirl4me, if it helps my son is up to the same tricks! Most days he doesn't want to brush his teeth, take a bath, go to school (he has never wanted to go to school), etc. He has gotten so clingy too. It makes me worried. Oh well, he will have to adjust. I figure something will have to give!! Hang in there. I know it's tough!

Excited for your sling, Zem. Does everyone else feel like you had lots of time and now there is hardly any left? I am almost through my list of things I want to get done, but still haven't started on the shared nursery decorating. I am still feeling good, but have started to feel a little more tired. It's so so hot here though that I wonder if it's the heat? LA always does this, get hot in September and October. We have no AC so it is miserable in the house!

[zem7]

On man, I have just now started to get things done. I have like 3 things on my list done...lol No where ready for this baby what so ever. Missed my 28 week apt today... Though it was next week. Oh dang I guess I don't get to have my special drink for another week...lol Our crib and bassinet are still in the storage. I only got out our car seat to make sure it hasn't been recalled or anything since we last used it in 2011. Wonder who will be the first to go out of our group? Anyone have a guess if you will go early or late? I know I won't go past 39 weeks, unless something goes wrong and I can't be induced. I hope I go before 39 weeks though..

[bythestream]

Yes I wonder who will be first. I'm waiting until I go on maternity leave before I sort things out because I have just been so tired all the time and DH hasn't been around much for different reasons so I've been handling the house/kids by myself mostly. Three weeks left of work, can't wait to finish. I have bought a what I need for the nursery just have to make/sort/paint. We're on holiday first week of maternity leave so that will be nice. I'm hoping to have her on the 1st Nov that would make me 38weeks but I think that's probably wishful thinking.
Ds 1 was induced 12days late ds2 was 8 days early. Id like to go on the 1st because it's on the Friday of a long weekend here and DH will have 3 days off without any stress.

[6bluewant1pink]

Hey ladies! Thought I stop by I've been very busy awaiting my 7th son! I've been back in fourth in the hospital for my diabetes, hard to keep sugars under control and I have increasing amniotic fluid. My Ob is keeping a close eye on it. I get weekly ultrasounds love to see my little Ashton every week. Very excited to be having a new addition I am so in love with this little boy:) repeat csection set for 11-11 hopefully I'll make it that far me and ob doubt I'll make it that far lol.
Hope everyone is doing well. I will try to keep in touch definitely let you know when my baby boy is here. Take care ladies.

[bythestream]

Thanks for the update 6bluewant1pink. Can't wait to hear about the birth of Ashton!

[Lizzie Lizard]

6blue, so good to hear from you! Sorry you have been in and out of the doc, but it does sound fun to see Ashton (love that name) every week.

Zem, I have started my list, which is unusual for me, but I have not gotten too far. :)

bythe******, I think you will go first! I hope I am not naive, but my water broke right on my due date with my son and I hope the same happens this time!

[zem7]

Sure is quiet in here... Seems like this group doesn't talk as much as some of the others. Anyways, on tue. I have to go drink that lovely drink ick. We had a pretty lazy weekend. Today went shopping for some picture shirts and such for the kids. Wow even though I didn't do a LOT of walking, I hurt so bad. Hope everyone is doing good.

[bythestream]

Yes we don't talk much do we. I'm generally well but tired all the time, can't wait to start maternity leave, can't believe I'm 30 weeks already. Really looking forward to meeting bub now.

[mommymachine]

I'm 28+5 today. My morning sickness is back a little but not too bad. My gestational diebetes test came back fine and I got my rhogam shot the other day.
Not sure if I've said this but I've had to be induced every single time from high blood pressure. (DS2 was also coupled with him being IUGR) So I was really hoping my blood pressure would be fine this time. It always goes up around 28 weeks and sure enough it's creeping up. Hopefully it was just a fluke and next time it will be low right?!?
Also, my doctor has now moved me from seeing her every four weeks to every 2 weeks:)

[zem7]

I was wondering when they would move from 4 weeks to 2. You think this being my 5th baby I would remember that lol. I am 28+3 today. Hopefully your BP evens out so that you don't have to worry about it. Mine does the exact opposite. It gets so low during pregnancy, that even my dr's start to worry about it. At my last visit it was 82/58. Hopefully it doesn't get much lower. I am so tired of all the BH contractions already. I still have so long of having them. I hate having a irritable uterus. Still want to sleep a lot, but other than those things I am feeling OK lol. Currently baby is still breech, hopefully she will turn soon.

[zem7]

So my Dr. visit went well (so short!). I am 28+4 today and measuring 29 weeks. Baby sounds good. That drink is just as nasty as I remembered lol. Hopefully I have no issues and have to take the 3 hour test. I felt so sick after I got back, that I had to take a nap in hopes that when I woke up I would feel better. Still feeling odd, but better now. I am now on my every 2 week visits. Hope everyone is doing well. hopefully some of you come back to chat soon. I like having others to talk with!

[mommymachine]

Glad everything went ok today zem!

[bythestream]

Yeah the drink is nasty isn't it. I had to do the 2 hour test because everyone does here now but luckily I passed.

I have a midwife appointment tomorrow, I've been having weird pressure in my chest when I get braxton hicks while laying down so I'm going to ask about that.

has bub turned yet Zem? She's been breech hasn't she?

[bythestream]

Hope your blood pressure stays down mommymachine, when have you been induced in the past?

We don't have too much longer now, I'm 31 weeks tomorrow and if she comes a little early like I'm hoping I might only have 7 weeks left! The nursery is just a huge mess at the moment.

[zem7]

Nope baby is still breech, I will start to try and help her turn once I hit 30-34 weeks. Right now I don't think me doing anything would do me any good. Hopefully she decides to turn the right way and I don't have to worry about it. Forgot to add my weight yesterday. I have put on another 6 pounds in the last 5 weeks. So I am no up a total of 12 pounds. I think I may be making up for not gaining anything the first tri and a half lol. Hopefully it doesn't get out of control. I am so hoping I go on my own but if not I will be induced at 39 weeks. Seems like not that far away!

[bythestream]

I don't think you need to worry about 12lb Zem, I've put on 10kg I think that's about 22lb lol. I think second trimester is when most weight is put on anyway. Hoping she turns for you without any fuss.

[bythestream]

So midwife thinks my bub is probably transverse, so hopefully she turns to. Everything else was fine, measuring a little big but I always seem to for some reason. And blood pressure was a little low, probably explains why I've been a bit dizzy.

[monkeysnuffer]

So midwife thinks my bub is probably transverse, so hopefully she turns to. Everything else was fine, measuring a little big but I always seem to for some reason. And blood pressure was a little low, probably explains why I've been a bit dizzy.

what do they do if baby doesnt turn? My bub is breech but i am kinda early but nervous...thanks

[zem7]

So midwife thinks my bub is probably transverse, so hopefully she turns to. Everything else was fine, measuring a little big but I always seem to for some reason. And blood pressure was a little low, probably explains why I've been a bit dizzy.

Hopefully baby turns for you, wonder if the Webster works on transverse babies, or is it only for breech? If Rozline is still breech by 34 weeks, after I have tried other things, I will be trying that. I know the feeling with low blood pressure, at my apt on Tue. my BP was 88/56. I am almost always dizzy. They told me the best thing to do is eat a bunch a salt. Dr. said all but eat it out of the shaker! lol.
Monkey- usually the Dr. wont do anything to help till you are around 36, 37 weeks. If baby is breech at that point they usually offer to do a version (turn the baby from the outside) doesn't always work, sort of your call if you want to get it done or not. There are other things that you can do to help a breech baby turn though. I am 29 weeks and my baby is breech, but I'm not going to start doing anything till I get to 30 weeks and really I won't be worried if she isn't turned till I hit around 34 weeks. That's when I will start trying the big guns lol. BUT the thing is for me, I already know that if she stays breech I will deliver her like that, wont have a section for a breech. That is my choice though, so I don't think I am as worried about her being in that position as someone who would not consider a V delivery of a breech. If you get further along just make sure you read up a lot on how to help a breech turn.

[monkeysnuffer]

Thank you zem.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Hi girls! Sorry to hear to hear about breech and transverse positions. Fingers crossed they move to the right spot. I just went in this morning and everything was good. She said baby was head down. This was my first time going every 2 weeks.

I just can't bring myself to get rid of my son's clothes until the 35 week ultrasound to confirm girl again. Plus the nursery... I just can't buy girl bedding either. Am I crazy? ha

I have all these pains along my rib cage and she said it is from everything stretching and expanding. I don't remember this the first time!

It does seem to be going fast at the end here. eeeeek! I said bythe****** goes first, but now I am giving zem a slight edge!

xoxo

[mommymachine]

Your not crazy. With my first DD I was convinced all 9 ultrasounds were wrong. When she was born my first question was "is it a girl?" Then I burst into hysterical tears.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Mommymachine!! I love your story! I think after the 35 week I will be sure, but it will probably go down like yours where at her birth I will be tearing her legs apart in disbelief! :)

[bythestream]

Yes I'm not getting rid of my boy clothes until after she's born, no more scans for me unless they think something is wrong.

Midwife wasn't concerned about her being transverse, she said because it's a third bub there is still plenty of room to move. I'm not even convinced she is, I get a lot of kicks at the top of my bump and I can't feel a head. I think they were having a bit of trouble because she was moving around so much anyway, she kept hitting the doppler too lol.

[zem7]

I still have all of my boy cloths. Only reason I don't have any girl cloths is because my sister had twin girls a little over a year ago and I gave them to her. Since she knew none of us were having anymore kids, she gave them away. So we now have to get all new girl cloths, need to go through and see if I have some gender natural cloths that she can use in the first few months. I hope you are right and she will come early. Hopefully no earlier than 37 weeks, but knowing my luck I will still need to be induced at 39 weeks lol. My only problem is I am so worried about going into labor, with the irritable uterus, its so hard to decide if it is true labor or just the new normal. Last pregnancy I had early labor at 34 weeks, I didn't feel any different, had contractions all the time at that point, but I just had a nagging feeling I should call and get checked out. Don't know why, but glad I did. I was dilated to a 2 by time they confirmed I was in labor. They gave me turb. but that didn't help at all. Other than to make me shaky! Since I was only 34 weeks (at a small hospital) they had to transfer me to a bigger hospital. So I got to fly in a helicopter! lol At the other hospital they got them to stop but I ended up staying for 4 days. Hopefully I don't have anything like that happen again!!

[zem7]

Apparently we lost some posts from yesterday. That's a bummer!

[bythestream]

Yeah that sucks, I didn't post anything yesterday though.

[mommymachine]

So OBGYN informed me yesterday that based on my history she won't let me go past 39 weeks, so that gives me 64 days left until baby! I do how she comes by herself though.

[zem7]

So TMI questions for everyone. Has anyone had shooting pains in their nipples? It feels like someone is taking a mini taser and zapping my nipples! It went on for hours last night and was driving me CRAZY! lol Also I have had such bad gas.... I am sure I could clear a room. Anyone else having any of these lovely issues? lol Other than that, its been raining here a lot, the kids have been stuck in side for the past few days. You can tell.... Starting to get cooler out, makes me sad I love summer. I HATE snow with a passion. Guess that's what I get for growing up in Northern Iowa, snow storms there were horrible. Well hope everyone is having a good week.

[zem7]

Oh wow mommy! That's so exciting! I also am going to be induced (if I don't go early) at 39 weeks. For me I like it because we live so far away from any friends or family. If I make it to induction, I will at least be able to plan on my mom or someone being here to watch the kids. Don't know what we will do if this girl decides to come early. Take the kids with us, I guess....

[Lizzie Lizard]

Zem, loved your post. I am not really really having any of that (although I have always been on the gassy side!), but my rib cage is expanding and it hurts!! I get weird tingling feelings along my rib cage and pains. My doc said the tingling is the nerves in the muscle expanding. This did not happen to me last time. This is unacceptable! I don't like the idea of another part of my body expanding!!

All these 39 week inductions. Exciting! I gotta finish up my list! Glad to hear no one else is getting rid of clothes yet.

Sorry about the rain and snow on the way. I have only ever lived in texas and cali so I am def a warm weather girl. :) I can't imagine negotiating snow.

[bythestream]

Sorry you girls have aches and pains, I'm not too bad unless I've been laying for too long in the same place. But I'm completely over this tiredness, and I'm getting to the stage where I feel like an elephant. everyone asking if I'm due soon, no still another 8 weeks. I don't get pain in the nipple Zem but they do get itchy sometimes, I guess it's all just preparation.

64 days sounds so soon Mommymachine!

We're just moving into spring here but it's still cold and wet, we had one week of good weather but I'm kind of glad I don't want it to get too hot while Im still pregnant, not that it really gets hot here anyway.

[mommymachine]

I do get sore boobs once in a while and I'm very gassy (your not alone zem). It's turning into fall here and I love it!

[zem7]

bythe******- I would love to visit Australia someday... My grandma was from there, she got married to my grandpa during the war and moved here. She was from Brisbane. We still have lots of family there that I have never gotten a chance to know. So its a dream someday. It seems like we are all so close, but still so far away from having all of these little babies. I can't wait to start hearing birth stories. I love reading them. I even look around on the internet to read them HAHA. So what is everyones plans for birth? How many inductions, natural, or sections do we all have going at the moment?

[bythestream]

I live in Tasmania, tiny Island at the bottom and would never live anywhere else. You should definetly come and visit Australia one day, Brisbane is nice very warm.

Natural birth here, my first was induced 12 days over no drugs, second was spontaneous 8 days early no drugs. So hopefully everything goes smoothly for another natural birth.

My DH is dying of man flu again *sigh* it makes me angry how a common cold can make him incapable of doing anything yet as a mum we just soldier on through our nothing would get done. Ok vent over.

On a more positive note I only have 4 days of work before maternity leave! Woohoo can't wait.

[Lizzie Lizard]

bythe******! I am sure you are not that big!! Tell everyone to hush. I was thinking of posting a bump pic again. When I picked up my son at preschool yesterday they all asked me if I was having a baby (the kids in his class). So I guess the secret is really out. haha We gotta post another round of bump pics! I'll get that started!

I love the man cold... ahhh, you got it from this video right?
man flu - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EElqrgk4N0)
So funny! I think this video was the only thing that got me through my husband's last sickness. They do seem to go on forever- right? His last one went on for weeks. Man, had I had it by the end.

Yay! On your 4 days of work left! What do you do? Hoping you are not on your feet too much. I am working right up till the end because I work from home and usually am not too busy. Plus I don't get paid maternity leave so I want to go right up till the end to keep getting $$$! :)

Zem, I only have one other labor besides this and my water broke right on my due date. I was "natural" but got an epidural. Does that still mean natural? I am not a pro like you with 4 other deliveries!! You and mommymachine are amazing.

Weather here is good. It usually gets warmer in LA in Sept and Oct (compared to the summer) but the heat wave went away and it has been pleasant.

I have never been to Australia either, but would love to go! It does sound so lovely.

[zem7]

Yes by natural I was meaning, letting the body go into labor on its own. AND if I am being honest, I have only had one of those, number 3. My water broke at 38ish weeks (can't remember the exact day) but contractions never did start. I have had pit and an epi with all 4 deliveries. This time I am sooo hoping that I go on my own (before 39 weeks) I would love to see what a "natural labor" feels like. I can't imagine it being much worse than what I already get with the irritable uterus. I think if I could just go on my own, I could handle the labor, but we shall see.
I have tried to post a picture on here a few times but can't seem to do it for some reason. I think it may be because I am not an actual member (don't pay) just a user. I saw on some other places on here, ladies sending a picture to one of the other members for them to post a picture. Maybe I will have to ask one of you ladies to do that sometime. I could send it in an e mail or something. Unless, I can figure out how to put them up lol.
Oh I think I look huge lol. My husband tells me all the time I am huge, how nice honey lol. about 3 weeks ago I had someone ask when I was due. She looked like she was going to have a cow when I told her I wasn't due till the end of Nov. HAHA. I didn't think I was that big!
Anyone get any new stretch marks yet? I only had a few from my last pregnancies. I have some small ones on my boobs, but they cover easy. Also have some on each hip, but that's about it. Hope not to get anymore this time. The ones that I do have are getting darker again though...

[bythestream]

Yes just like that Lizzie, if the world was run by men every thing would collapse when they get sick. Honestly yesterday he didn't even put the breakfast dishes in the dishwasher. I got up got the kids up and ready, breakfasts, lunches took them to school and grandma's did a day at work luckily grandma drops them back off on a Wednesday so I don't have to do pickup. Then I made dinner got them bathed and in bed then cleaned up the kitchen, went and got him cold and flu tablets walked the dog then I could finally sit down. He slept and coughed and spluttered then kept me awake half the night coughing until he went to sleep on the couch.

My job is pretty cruisy, I only work 3 days a week and a lot of it is spent on the computer and microscope. I'm actually a scientist working on research into the Tasmanian devil and a horrendous transmissible cancer that is killing them all off. It is very interesting but I'm not sure I'll have s job after maternity leave because we have lost funding. I'll have 8 months paid leave before I have to worry about that though.

[bythestream]

Don't even talk about stretch marks Zem mine are horrendous. I'll post a bump pic later today, I think I look big because it's all out the front, that's how I seem to carry.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Bythe******! Your work sounds so interesting! And you are a scientist? Me too. I am a chemist, actually (but my husband does microscopy!). I used to work in a lab on this X-ray equipment that measures trace metals and then I started working for the manufacturer of the equipment. I work from home. I used to travel a lot, now not as much because they moved me to part time. They would like me to travel more and I don't want to travel at all! I am not sure how much longer they will keep me on, but we will see. :)

You get 8 paid months??? That is amazing!! The US is so behind the ball on that. If I weren't part time I would get something from my company, but because I am, I won't see anything from the state of Cali or my company. Boo. Not that it would have been full pay anyway.

You had a full full day with your man flu hubby. Mine is so spoiled because I do work from home and have our son in preschool 3 days a week, most (if not all) the cooking, cleaning, etc, etc falls on me "because I am home". Actually today he is not supposed to go to school, but I paid extra and sent him in because I have multiple conference calls today and so tired of trying to get work done and entertaining him. I am still going to the gym and it is really wiping me out (in addition to walking the dog, house hold stuff, etc). I might need to humble myself and cut back.

Zem, I had an induction scheduled (my mom talked me into it because she wanted to be able to book plane tickets to come), but he came on his own 1 day before. My OB predicted that... she said they "don't like it when you give them an eviction date" ha. I had started contractions when we got to the hospital. They were painful, but I was trying to hold out. Then they started the petocin drip and they were so painful I wasn't really getting any downtime between contractions. So I quickly caved and got an epi. It was past midnight at this point and my husband and I fell asleep. They woke me about 6 am and said they had taken me off the pitocin in the middle of the night and everything was moving well. I started pushing at 9 am the next morning and 10 mins later he was here! (I wonder now why they had to put me on pitocin in the first place? Maybe I will ask to not be put on it this time since I didn't really need it witht my first?)

Zem, message me if you want my email and I would be happy to post your bump pic!

Sorry for the long post girls! Venting!! :)

[bythestream]

That's funny we are in similar lines of work isn't it. Yes we are so lucky with our paid leave here, I get 12 weeks from my employer then another 18 weeks from the government. It certainly takes any stress off, I also have a bit of rec leave I can use.

You must be exhausted Lizzie, there is no way I could survive a gym session. But you must be really fit, it should help you with labour.

[mommymachine]

14227It's good to hear from the ladies!

Lizzie--love the birth story of your son!

Here is my 30week 2 day belly!

[Lizzie Lizard]

Girls, here is Zem's pic! So sweet!! :)

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[mommymachine]

Your all belly zem! I wish I was like that. I gain everywhere.

[zem7]

Girls, here is Zem's pic! So sweet!! :)

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This is me at 30+1. Sorry for the mess behind me! lol

Thanks I feel huge! haha

Also thanks for posting it Lizzie!

[zem7]

How is everyone? Do anything fun over the weekend. I went through all the older kids cloths and got out some that I can use for this little girl. Also put away all the cloths that don't fit them anymore. Man do I hurt now, I was at it for 8 hours on Saturday. I just could not make myself stop till it was all done... On Sunday I lost some of my plug. Ick (tmi) I had to wipe like 10 times to get rid of all of it. lol I know it grows back, so not worried about it.

[bythestream]

Love your pics Zem and Mommymachine. My whole family has had the flu except me so I've just mostly been looking after them. But I did go to a friends birthday on Sat night and had the best time.

This is me at 32 weeks 4 days

[zem7]

Had my Dr. visit today. We talked about my birth plan, for the most part he is ok with everything. I also have put on 6 pounds in the last 2 weeks EEKK! lol So I am now up 18 pounds. Totally making up for the beginning lol. Rozline sounded good, he wasn't able to tell if she is head down. She was moving a lot and I agree she is a hard one to figure out how she is sitting. We will do a US when I am 37 weeks to make sure she is head down. At times I think she is, but others I think that maybe she isn't.... I am 31 weeks tomorrow! So excited to be one week closer. The count down is totally on lol. My husband told me last night that we only have 8 weeks left, thought I was the only one counting HAHA. Apparently he misses my pre pregnancy self also.

[bythestream]

My bub seems to move around a lot too Zem, let's hope they decide to go head down and stay soon. So the virus that has been gong through the family had finally made it to me today. I'm feeling rotten; cough, upset tummy and just feeling generally crappy. I'm really hoping it doesn't stay long because we are apse to be leaving on holiday in 3 days. My DH is only just better after a week and a half but they always get it worse right? My ds1 only had it for 2 days so hopefully I follow suit, he has the best immune system though.

On a positive note I am officially on maternity leave, Woohoo!

[zem7]

Wow quiet in here again. Well we went to visit my family and celebrate 2 birthdays for my niece and nephew this weekend. It was nice to see everyone. Took family pictures, so I am excited to see how they all turned out. I found out I am having HUGE issues riding in the car for long periods of time. We had a 4.5 hour drive. I was in a lot of pain about half way through lol. Hopefully I can still make the trip with my husband and our friends when I am 34 weeks. We will be driving around 4ish hours for a race they are all going to be doing (I was signed up before I found out I was pregnant). I want to go, but I guess we will see how I am feeling at the time.

[mommymachine]

Hi!
Bythe******-love your pic!
Zem - how are you feeling?? I can't believe you made that long of a car ride! I would go crazy.

As for me, I had an ultrasound today and she looks wonderful! Practicing breathing and the tech kept saying how beautiful her heart looked. Just one problem---she in a Frank Breech! But the tech said there is plenty of time to flip!

[bythestream]

Oh all our little ones are being a bit naughty aren't they. Hope they all behave enough for natural deliveries.

[zem7]

Holy crap. For the first time, I got asked when baby was due, and I said next month! lol that just sounds crazy.

I think my little girl may be head down now, but still so hard to tell!! Hopefully everyone babies get into gear soon!!

After that car ride, I hurt for almost the entire next day. I am feeling better now, but still in a lot of pain, but i think this is my normal pain... I so hope I can make the trip with everyone in a few weeks. I don't like being stuck at home.

So my last apt. was 2 weeks. BUT when they set up my next one it was 3 weeks. Just wish they would be a little more consistent... Its not like it is a big deal, but I hate having to worry if I am missing something because they change the weeks around so much! lol

[mommymachine]

I think my tickets broken. It's stalled now for 3 days!!! Hmm.

[mommymachine]

I'm 32 weeks tomorrow!!! Which means I'm starting my red raspberry leaf tea.

[zem7]

Sorry, maybe I am just not seeing something obvious..... But what is your ticket? lol

[mommymachine]

Haha! I meant to say ticker. Oops. It says 31 + 3 but it should say 31 + 6.

[bythestream]

Looks like it's fixed now Mommymachine. I'm away on holiday this week but I don't know whether to start when I get back or not. With ds 1 I started rlt early and he was 2 weeks late with ds2 came the day I started. It makes me wonder if it's better to hold off then do a blitz. The other thing I was thinking of starting is dates, is anyone else going to eat dates?

[zem7]

I will be 32 weeks tomorrow, time seems to be going so fast and also so slow! lol Last night I told my husband I wanted hot cocoa just before I left to drop our DD off at gymnastics, when I got back he had a cup made for me! Such a good man! lol. Rozline has been having the hiccups up so much, she is starting to wake me up at night with them now...ugg.

[zem7]

I am only doing 5W formula starting at 35 weeks and EPO starting at 36 weeks. Have never been much of a tea drinker.

Mommy- Oh good, thought I was not understanding something. I don't know if it is the same in Canada but we went to the UK for a visit a few years back. I ended up saying something that offended some guy! To this day I haven't been able to figure out what I said wrong LOL. I don't think he realized I was from the US or something. OOPS!

[mommymachine]

I have not heard about dates!!! Tell me more. I will be eating pineapple, and spicy food after 37/38 weeks and having lots of sex. Plus DD is still nursing which will aid in nipple stimulation.

[mommymachine]

When are you ladies going to be getting ready for baby? Putting their bed up ad things like swings. Washing their clothes...

[bythestream]

Here's the article on dates Mommymachine. I'm going to start getting the baby stuff ready next week, I'll be 34 weeks then.


The effect of late pregnancy consumptio - PubMed Mobile (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21280989/)

[zem7]

No idea when I will get everything ready haha. I do have the cloths that I do have washed for the most part, but that is pretty much it. I was wanting to do a lot a week or so ago, now I am back to not wanting to do anything. So I guess things will get done when ever! lol. Hopefully I decide I want to before baby comes.

[zem7]

Wow this place gets so quite over the weekends.. Not many of us posting, seems like the other due date groups have more people in them. Well this week, I have my Dr. apt and we leave on Fri for our 4 hour drive. Looking forward to watching my DH and friends run in the Zombie race lol. Not looking forward to the drive... I will be 33 weeks when we leave, so i will be big but not huge yet... We did pretty much a bunch of nothing this weekend lol.

[mommymachine]

Thanks for that date article. I will be eating those as well. I have nothing really yet. It's seems like 43 days is still so far away! 6 weeks tomorrow.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Girls!! Sorry I have been MIA. Missing you all.

We went on your "big fancy holiday" as my husband called it. haha Instead of going up north (6 hour drive) we decided just to go to north san diego (~ 2 hour drive). It's not as long as you zem, but I was fine. Actually, my husband stopped to use the rest room and I didn't? haha. We had fun, but back to the grind now.

I need to wash her clothes. I have my 35 week ultrasound on Wed and I figure after that it's a go! I did already buy some new bedding (well, my friend bought it for me because she gets an employee discount at land of nod) so that is coming!

Work has been crazy and I am just trying to hang on till the end. I am at home so not the same as being in an office, but I usually am not that busy so funny how that works out. bythe******, hope you are enjoying your holiday and maternity leave.

I had not heard about dates. I actually just bought some to make a dessert, but didn't have the rest of ingredients. I'll have to get on that. Last time I drank raspberry tea, but like 5 days before. I didn't think about starting in on it all sooner! The thought of her coming early scares me... still so much to do!

xoxo

[bythestream]

I'm loving maternity leave and the holiday was good except I was still recovering from the flu. I'm still coughing now, it was a horrible one. I feel kind of bad not giving much sympathy to my dh. The day before we left I was having trouble breathing, I was so worried but I think it was just the baby being high and a blocked nose and a bit of anxiety thrown in. I went to the dr and my chest was clear and my stats good, feeling heaps better now just lacking energy and motivation. I really need to get things organised.

The plane trip over on our holiday wasn't the best, I had the kids on the plane by myself as my dh took our car on the boat (I knew I'd get seasick) it's only a very short flight (less than an hour usually) but they'd had gale force winds all morning. It was a pretty bumpy ride, the boys were so good ds 1 loved it he was yelling this is so awesome, ds 2 went green said "I need to vomit" vomited into the bag then went to sleep. It was quite adorable if not a bit gross and pretty mature for a 2 and half year old, no crying at all. Luckily the rest of the trip and the ride back went much better.

So I woke up with a bit of an upset tummy, I'm pretty sure bub moved a fair bit in the night as things just feel different. I'm not sure if she's moved to a better position or not. I wasn't sure if the tummy upset is from that our starting days yesterday.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Bythe******!! That sounds terrible! I am so sorry you were so sick. Meant to mention that. (I do that all the time, get on my hubby/DS for being sick babies and then I catch and think... oh, this is bad.) Although the difference with us ladies is we continue on and the world doesn't stop because we are sick.

The breathing thing is scary. I have felt like I can't breathe sometimes and it is so scary. Glad you went and had it all checked out. I sure it was the perfect storm with the flu and pregnancy.

The airplane ride sounds awful. I just to fly all the time for my job. I hate turbulence. It is like my dirty secret. I try to play it cool, but actually I am freaking on the inside. :) Sounds like you all handled it well. I get sea sick too... not sure I would take a bumpy plane ride or a boat tho. The throwing up and going to sleep is darling. He did so well.

Did you camp? Was that what I remember? My sister in law organized a 1 night camping trip this weekend close to here. I said I am out. I can barely get comfy in my bed. It's my rib cage! It's so painful. I must be carrying her higher than my son. I never had this before. All night it hurts to lay on my side and I have to lay on my side and then my rib cage is expanding.

Anyway, DH taking DS camping. I was excited about a night off, but then remembered my friend asked if her 13 year old son could stay with us that night as they are going out of town. Not like I had big plans anyway. She says he will just play on his computer and leave me alone. I am just excited about watching what I want on TV and maybe taking a bath. Exciting times!! :)

[Lizzie Lizard]

Finally got a pic! Me (in a bar!) at 34 weeks 5 days. Enjoy! haha14614

[mommymachine]

Love it! You look so tiny for almost 35 weeks.

[bythestream]

Yes tiny bump Lizzie, no camping for us nice cushy apartment ;)

[zem7]

Nice picture, you are so small!! lol It may have been me you were thinking about camping. We went a few weeks back. Actually it wasn't bad! BUT we do use a blow up bed lol, no sleeping on the ground for this mama!

[zem7]

Had my 33 week visit today. Baby sounds good. I am measuring 34 weeks. So went from 2 weeks behind last time, to 1 week ahead lol. Make up your mind baby. Also didn't gain any weight. So I am still at the 18 pounds. Don't remember that happening before, I think I always at least gained a pound or 2....hmm. We have my MIL going to be here tomorrow night, I need to clean house today and tomorrow. Have I even started...no... LOL Hopefully I can get motivated later or get everything done tomorrow....

[bythestream]

My MIL is coming today too Zem. I haven't put any wrought on in the last month or so either, I think it's normal to slow weight gain in the last trimester. I'm off to the midwife tomorrow. I think the fundal measurement can change depending on how the baby is positioned, do they think she's still breech Zem?

[Lizzie Lizard]

Hi, guys! You are sweet. I really am feeling big. I am telling you it's just because I am tall, sturdy girl. I carry extra weight well.

I had my 35 week ultrasound this morning! She is measuring good. They estimate she weighs 5 lbs and 13 oz. She said that is a little heavy for 35 weeks, but it's totally fine. And she is still a SHE! She said, yes, she is definitely a girl. I saw the labia, the hole enchilada, so to speak. Yay!! I think I am really finally convinced. :) She was still head down, but my doc said no guarantees she will stay that way.

Zem, I still don't think I could camp even with air mattress. You are brave! Your MIL is coming tomorrow? Will she come back when the baby is here? I am discussing with mine when to come and help. She drives me crazy, but of course she needs to come. :)

[zem7]

Yeah we think that she is head down now, hopefully she stays that way!! She still flips around sometimes, but usually only for a few hours.

I am hoping that I will go on my own before 39 weeks. If not I will have an induction. Simply because it will be easier to plan things with our kids and family. We moved to a different state for a good job that my husband got. BUT that means we are at least 4.5 hours away from anyone we know! So if I go on my own, we don't currently have any plans other then hope someone makes it here in time for us to go to the hospital. Or we will just have to bring all 4 with us... Not looking forward to that option lol. We just got our house last Jan, don't know any of the people living around us yet to ask if they could come over and sit with the kids till family got here.

Yeah my MIL will also be coming back when we deliver. She usually stays with the kids (has for the last 4 babies) till I get out of the hospital. I am sure my mom and dad will be down also. My mom has been to each of my deliveries. To be honest though, I hope she is late for this one. I know it may sound mean, but I just have never felt comfortable with other family in the room other then DH.

Makes me wonder if I do go into labor on my own, I have no idea what it actually feels like!!!!! I have been induced with all my other 4 and I have a irritable uterus. So will I know when i am in early labor? My longest labor was like 8 hours.....lol Currently that is the only thing that has me a tad worried. I guess we will see when the time comes. Knowing my luck though, I will make it to my induction date...lol

[bythestream]

My MIL is just visiting for the day, taken the boys out which is nice. I think you will know you're in labour Zem, I was a bit worried because my first was induced but I knew the second time.

I washed all the baby clothes yesterday and today and have put some fabric up as wallpaper on one of the wardrobe doors. It looks great still a bit more to do before she comes but at least it feels like I'm starting to get organised. I have an appt worth the midwives tomorrow.

[zem7]

6 or less weeks. I am so excited lol!!

Good luck at the apt today!

May not be on too much this weekend, but I will be back. Can't get rid of me that easy haha. I am excited to see my DH and friends in the zombie run, wish I could join them. Maybe next year.

[Lizzie Lizard]

It was just me and my DH with the last delivery and we loved that... my mom is coming on Nov 14th... whether I have had her or not so we will see how it goes. I guess really if I haven't gone into labor she will stay her with DS, so not like she will be in the hospital with us. I totally get wanting some alone time.

Zem, I love that this is your 5th and you are worried about knowing if you are labor. :) My water broke with mine and if it helps, I knew exactly what was going on. I was in bed but managed to run to the bathroom. It just felt like a rubber band popped inside and I knew!

You will be running next year for sure! I play tennis and I just told my sister that it seems like I will never play again at this point. I will get back to it someday though.

Bythe******, post a pick! I love DIY decorating. The fabric doors sounds lovely! I am trying to pick a grey color for the shared nursery for mine. Update us on what the midwife says. I hope you are feeling better.

[zem7]

HAHA yeah, the only time that my water broke without being induced was with number 3. Sad thing about that is, contractions never started!! I still had to get pit. So I don't know what an actual LABOR contraction feels like lol. I wonder if it will feel the same as the ones I am having all the time, or if they will feel different. I have always heard that pit contractions are worse then actual contractions. So it makes me wonder...

LOL Anyone got the hospital bag packed yet? i am so bad about doing that, I always seem to be doing that right when I need it lol

Also need to start thinking about what to get my DS 3 for his second birthday. Its Dec 13 and haven't even been thinking about it!! BAD MOM lol. Haven't even thought of what to get any of the kids for Christmas. I need to get my butt in gear. Usually my DH and I wait and get all the shopping done in one weekend. Wonder if I will be feeling up to doing that this year with a baby or not. We will see I guess LOL.

[bythestream]

Here is the fabric door Lizzie, it was super easy. My midwife appt went good measured 36cm and I'm 35w1d but not as much bigger as last time, she's head down but still a lot of movement. I also met together with a group doing a trial on low iron in pregnancy and am going to have an iron transfusion on Wednesday.

[bythestream]

Pic didn't work I'll have to try again later

[bythestream]

Nursery is going to be really bright

[Lizzie Lizard]

Bythe******, I love it! Those are gorgeous. Bright is perfect. She will have a lot to look at! I didn't know you had iron troubles? You are getting a transfusion? You are going to be ready for action! haha

Ok, Zem, you must educate me. What are pit contractions? No, no bag packed here. Must finish the nursery first. Plus I need to get my co-sleeper back from a friend. I still need to hear your story too about how this 5th one is an accident. Can you give me a link to the story? :)

Have a good weekend, girls!

[bythestream]

I had them checked quite a while ago and my vitamin d was really low, they told me my iron was low but not too bad. Then I got a call from these researchers, and no doubt it's gone down further. I think it will be good after birth too since I like to breastfeed for a year.

Have fun watching the zombie run Zem

[zem7]

Well we had a good weekend. The 4 hour drive wasn't too bad, but glad that we don't have to travel anymore till the baby comes. My husband ran in the Zombie run, he "died" lol. It was a lot of fun. Hope you all had a good weekend. I need some rest. Yesterday my legs got all swollen, haven't had that happen before. It has gotten better, but not back to normal.

Pit contractions- Sorry I shortened the name, its pitocin.

Ha! well what happened is. We have 4 children. Of the 4 only one of them was planned. LOL. Well the day after baby 4 was born I got a tubal ligation done. We knew we didn't want anymore kids. They did the ligation and the labs came back after they tested the tissue that it was an entire cut out of both tubes. So we were told it was a success. So we went on knowing we could not get pregnant again. Boy were we wrong!! lol. That comes up to baby 5, I just knew even before I tested that it would be positive. I even told my DH, who told me I was crazy. Well took 3 tests and sure enough positive. Had to have an early scan to make sure it wasn't a tubal pregnancy, everything was fine. My body just decided that we weren't done having kids, so it fixed at least 1 tube. After Rozline is born I will be getting a second tubal done at 5 weeks PP. This time they are going to remove the entire tubes on both sides. Dr. said if I get pregnant after that, it would be a miracle! So I guess that is the story in a nut shell lol. If you have any questions you can ask, I have no problem answering.

[Lizzie Lizard]

ZEM! That is such a crazy story. Goodness. I can't even imagine the shock. I have heard of people getting pregnant after a vasectomy, but I always assume they didn't wait until the tubes had cleared out. Never heard of getting your tubes tied (or they were cut?) and the egg still got through?? That is some girl you have got there! Amazing!! What is the % that it can happen??

My weekend was good, but a little annoying... DH was supposed to take DS camping. He and his sister and her family were going to camp up north of LA in Malibu. (To be honest I always thought this was a bit of a weird idea. I am so pregnant and didn't want to go. We werent sure how our DS would do, etc) But whatever if they wanted to go! So they found out there is a fire watch or whatever and you couldn't have fires at the camp site. So they all came and camped in our backyard. It was fine, I continued on with my plans of not camping, and my son woke up at midnight screaming, so nice that I just went out and got him and they weren't in Malibu, but my house is such a wreck this morning!

They tried to stay outside, but of course the playroom is wrecked from 3 boys playing in it, the kitchen, bathrooms. Ugh. I told my husband this sets me back 2 days worth of cleaning! Thanks! He says he will help clean, but I am the one that works from home and can't stand things in disarray, so of course I will end up doing the bulk of it. Oh well. It's family, and they had fun, but not only did I not get a night off, but it put more work on me. Booo.

[zem7]

They cut a section out of eat tube. It is a 1 in 10,000 chance. BUT most of the ones that do get pregnant end up being a tubal. Not many make it through. Yes it was quite the shock. If I am being honest, we were totally pissed off.... I know that may sound bad, but we had the next 5 years all planned out, now we can't do many of those things. It took me almost 2 months to become ok with having another baby. I am now excited, but worried about what it is going to be like having 5 kids. My oldest is 7....

Glad you had a good weekend, sucky that now you have all that cleaning to do.

[bythestream]

Yeah that sucks you didn't get the weekend off Lizzie and now the house is a mess. I should really get up and do the vacuuming but I slipped on the gravel drive this morning and I'm really sore in the pelvis now and I think I might have pulled a muscle or something in my groin. The worst thing was I was holding my 2yo hand and I pulled him over too. I felt so bad, he banged his head but luckily only a little scrape.

[bythestream]

I think it will be really great in years to come you have 5 kids all so close together Zem but I imagine it's going to be pretty exhausting for the next few years.

So do you just have 1 or 2 at school already?

[zem7]

2 are in school, would have been 3 but this state has an earlier cut off date then the one we came from. Brooklyn is in second, Riley is in Kindergarten, and Blake would have been in preschool. So he will be starting next fall. Dimitri will be 2 here in Dec. so he isn't starting school for a few years.

[mommymachine]

Hi everyone. Zem glad you had fun at the run! I agree that this baby will bring so much love and joy to your life:)

Up here in Canada, I had a great thanksgiving. I'm not crazy about turkey but the fixings were amazing. Yum! My husband and BIL spent 14 hours cooking on Saturday to fill my freezer with ready to go meals for after the baby comes!

I am so ready to have a newborn. This pregnancy is my hardest yet and I am so ready to be done. I hope she comes a bit early. 37/38 weeks would be soooo nice...as long as she's ready of course:)

Wish we would hear from some of the other ladies, a lot of them must be at least full term by now!

[zem7]

Yes I agree, were did everyone go?? Seems like it is just a few of us that talk now.

I like thanksgiving, but also don't care to turkey LOL. We have huge family thanksgivings and christmas dinners. Usually around 25ish people. I usually eat everything but the turkey, we also make a huge ham that I tend to go for. In the US turkey day is Nov. 28th. My due date...lol. If everything goes to plan I will have Rozline by that point.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Bythe******, so sorry about your tumble. That is terrible. I feel like you are having some bad luck here at the end, the flu, the fall, etc. Hang in there! Did you get your Fe infusion? Has that helped?

Zem, omg I loved how you said you were pissed. I would be so so pissed. 1 in 10,000??? Those are some ridiculous odds that you beat. I just can't imagine how fun it will be for you all though. So nice to have so many siblings, family, etc. Then when they all grow up all the grand kids you will have. Such a big fun life! Even though so much work now. :)

Glad you had a good thanksgiving, mommymachine. Another one that doesn't like turkey?? You guys are crazy!! I love turkey. The fixings are amazing, but the turkey is up there too for me.

My doc is going out of town for T-day, but she said she won't let me go that far so no worries. I am feeling so so big recently! I went to the gym this morning and my spin instructor even commented on it. (In addition to spraying water under my bike and making jokes about how my water will break in spin class. Lord, I hope that doesn't happen!)

[Lizzie Lizard]

Oh and I agree. I feel like this is our private chat forum! ha

[zem7]

I can't even start to think about what it will be like with grand kids! LOL still too young. BUT my parents only had 3 kids. My brother, sister, and I. After this baby is born they will have 12.......LOL. With my 5 it makes me wonder what we will be in for ha. BUT I think my sister is going to be in for it. She also has 5 kids. She was only going for 4 but got twins with the last one. She has 4 girls and 1 boy!! lol Since the twins are fraternal they have a higher chance of having twins themselves. She may be in for a lot of grandbabies lol.

I told my sister when she got pregnant with number "4" that is was going to be twins. I even had dreams that she would have twins. When she found out she was I gave her so much crap. I guess me getting pregnant with a surprise number 5 is payback. She has been giving me as much crap as I gave her lol.

This pregnancy is so odd for me. I never got that second tri energy surge.. I have wanted to sleep pretty much all the time. I will be 34 weeks tomorrow, feels like time is starting to slow down now. After Halloween we have no plans made till after baby gets here. So I don't have much to distract me.

I am also still having severe chocolate cravings. Pretty much anything chocolate, especially dark chocolate....Its a wonder I haven't put on more weight!! Anyone else having cravings that have been there for pretty much the entire time? Oh and anyone having crazy birth dreams??!! I keep dreaming I will have her in odd places, or deliver her in our bathroom. I can't think of one that has taken place in the hospital. Makes me wonder if I will have an accidental unassisted delivery.

[bythestream]

No Thanksgiving in Australia we have our Turkey at Christmas but I love it. Had another fall today :( we have a very steep rocky block and I twisted my ankle and fell forwards. I'm usually quite uncoordinated but I think the bump has made it worse. Nothing serious just a bit sore. Had the iron transfusion yesterday I think it will take a couple of days to feel the effects. Are you low on iron too Zem? May be why you are tired all the time, that and having 4 other kids to look after.

[zem7]

Hope you are feeling better after the fall!!! I fell last pregnancy at 34 weeks. It was bad. Went into labor. They were able to get it under control though.

Nope no iron issues, they also checked my thyroid, since my mom has issues with hers. Everything seems to be normal. So i guess that is just how this pregnancy is going.

I feel so bad for my kids they have been watching more tv than usual.... I just can't seem to get into gear. I had like 1 or 2 days not long back where I felt like i had to get things done. Thought maybe I was finally getting back to normal, but nope, didn't last long! lol I am keeping the house some what clean, but not as much as I would like. I don't even have the bassinet out and washed yet! Ahh someone help me! lol. Hopefully the nesting will kick in and give me some energy to get everything done soon.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Zem, that is funny about your sister and the twins you predicted. Maybe your #5 surprise is payback? :) Sorry you never got your energy. I am sure it has something to do with the other 4. haha I am still feeling good. I feel like I never really lost my energy. I work from home so I just roll out of bed, but I have had 6:30 am conference calls the last 2 weeks. I thought this would exhaust me, but has been ok. Going to bed early with my son though. I have my moments, but still hanging in there. I crave things but honestly I craved things before pregnancy too. Nothing that sticks out. With my DS it was chewy things! Gummy bears in particular. This one has been more sweets, but less now I feel like. This one will be your last. Eat the chocolate, if you want it!

Bythe******, you take care! I can't believe you fell again. So sorry. I, twice in the last week, have rolled my ankle (I have always had weak ankles) and almost fallen, but haven't yet. Hope you are ok. It is totally the bump. I notice I have lost a lot of my balance when I do things. Your entire center of gravity is off!

[bythestream]

Thanks ladies yes feeling much better today. I was a bit worried I might have problems with my hips up until delivery but they seem to be getting better so that's good. I have no energy either Zem. Don't worry about the tv. I have been feeling really edgy and uncomfortable in the evenings but I find it better if I eat. I have heard you're supposed to have an extra 900 calories at this stage of pregnancy but I haven't really been eating more than normal so it might just be I need the extra food. I haven't put any weight on for weeks either.

[bythestream]

Anyone else eating dates? I got some really nice ones from my BIL's shop. They were quite expensive but really yummy

[mommymachine]

By the ******. I have a bit but not everyday! How many are you eating per day?

[Lizzie Lizard]

Additional 900 calories? Holy mackrel! I gained 2 lbs from my last appt. I hear some girls lose weight. I am aiming for that! ha.

Not doing the dates. I don't want her early!! I always do this. I try to plan ahead, but last minute I am pulling things together.

[bythestream]

I'm having 4 to 6 Mommymachine. Added bonus of getting rid of constipation ;)

[zem7]

I don't plan on doing the dates. I will be starting 5W formula at 35 weeks and EPO at 36 weeks.

[bythestream]

I have epo there but I'm not sure if I want to use it, I've heard it can be a blood thinner.

[zem7]

From everything I have heard from my MW and read online. EPO isn't a blood thinner. It does state that if you take blood thinners or BP medications not to use it. BUT not that it actually contains thinners. I will have to ask about this at my apt next week, but I am pretty sure on that one.

[atomic sagebrush]

All essential fatty acids thin the blood. Things do not need to contain added blood thinners in order to act as blood thinners. The reason why they say not to take it with blood thinners is because it will thin your blood even more so and put you at higher risk of serious bleeding, even death.

[atomic sagebrush]

I just wrote an in depth reply about epo, I am on kindle, can anyone post a link???

[bythestream]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/pregnancy-talk/35406-question-about-epo.html

is this it Atomic? Thanks for your input.

I was only planning on inserting it vaginally anyway, but maybe I'll just stock with sex (I know my DH will be happy about that)

[zem7]

For EPO I usually use it both orally and vaginally, but this time since I will already be taking the 5W I am just doing it vaginally. I have never had problems with bleeding, but if it is a problem the 5W should help with that. In the 3 pregnancies I have used it, I have seen great results with it. Some people it works for, some now. Just have to decide if it is the right thing for you. I am taking it with the supervision and support of my MW, so I feel comfortable using both of them.

Last night I was feeling around, trying to determine how Rozline is sitting. I feel a round lump down low and one up high... They both feel like heads, so can't decide if she is head up or down. As a joke I told my husband, if I didn't know better I would say that was 2 heads! lol. I know its not, but still! He said he would totally die if our one SURPRISE turned into 2! LOL. I did this right before we went to bed last night. Well ended up having a dream last night. I was in labor, but apparently father along then I thought. I was delivering in my bathroom (I have had so many dreams that I will deliver at home!!). Well I delivered the baby and was waiting for EMT to show up and felt the urge to push again. I was thinking it was the placenta, NOPE out pops another head!! So When they get there I am sitting with not one but two babies!! I woke up shortly after. Holy crap! lol Odd dreams.

[atomic sagebrush]

Science does not support the use of EPO in pregnancy. I just want you guys to be safe. I had bad results with oral EPO and the studies show worse pregnancy outcomes while using it. Evening primrose oil: “Don (http://vbacfacts.com/2012/11/13/evening-primrose-oil-dont-use-it-if-you-are-pregnant/)

[Lizzie Lizard]

I didn't even know what you guys were talking about with EPO. The only EPO I have heard of is a performance enhancing drug. I think I will skip it. I never used anything the first time and he came right on time? Am I naive to hope for the same with my 2nd?

Zem, that is an awesome dream. I, meanwhile, dreamt last night that Prince Harry asked me out!! I was so excited and then my alarm went off. Booo.

I went back to yoga today after not going for months. Dang my hips were tight. It was ridiculous. I feel so much better now. I should have never stopped going. I just skipped anything that was too much for me and it was fine.

[Lizzie Lizard]

One more thing, Atomic I love when you drop in on us with your advice! (I hope this does not sound factitious, I 100% love it!)

It's like you are the all knowing, all seeing Wizard of Oz! :)

[zem7]

Anyone been checked yet? I haven't been checked yet, wonder if my body has started doing anything yet.... Went to the hospital today and got pre registered. I also got a tour of the birthing unit. Have my 35 week check tomorrow, will see if I have started to put on weight again or if I am still the same. hopefully he can tell for sure what direction this little lady is! lol I think he will do my GB swab at 36 weeks, but I guess I could be wrong.

[6bluewant1pink]

My boy #7 is here! Ashton arrived this Sunday October 20th, by csection. I had developed preeclampsia also I have diabetes ,and lots amniotic fluid. I was on hospital bed rest since Thursday last week. My Ob wasn't letting me go home till baby comes. We actually planned my repeat csection for Sunday afternoon but my baby had plans of his own! Water broke in the early morning hours ob did csection right away! He weighed 7lb 8oz,20inches. Born at 36weeks 1day. Since he came 36weeks he was considered premature. He had trouble day 1 with low sugar they actually transported him 45 min away to another hospital that have a nicu. He was sent back here with me at the hospital I had him at. I can't have him in my room but am allowed to breastfeed and see him in the special care nursery. I should be discharged tomorrow but not sure about baby. If he can't come home they say I should be able to stay at hospital with him. I will post pics as soon as I am able to. Oh I didn't get that tubal so maybe after 7 boys I may someday get that girl :)

[Lizzie Lizard]

6blue, congrats!!! SO exciting! I was just wondering which one of us would go first, and it's you! Sorry he had plans of his own and came a little early. I am sure he is being well taken care of. You get some rest! :) Yes, please post pics asap. He is a good size for 36 weeks. Yay!! So fun. And no tubal? You are brave... good for you.

Zem, I think I will get checked at my appt on Thurs. I have to go weekly now. My OB let me have week 36 off, but now it's the weekly grind. I got my swab and it came back positive. Surprised me as I was negative with my son. Have you ever tested positive?

[bythestream]

Congratulations 6blue hope things continue to improve quickly and you can both come home soon. Enjoy the newborn snuggles.

I had my swab last appt probably get the results on Friday when I go. I've heard it can come and go Lizzie. They don't routinely check you here before labour unless they're inducing. In fact I'm not even sure I had a check with ds2 at all, maybe just one.

[mommymachine]

Wow! What a birth story! Sorry he came a little early but a big congrats!!!!

Lizzie - I tested positive with DS3. Not a big deal, just gave me antibiotics while I was in labour with him. It has to be administered at least 4 hours before baby is born I think.

[zem7]

YEAH the first baby!! So exciting, hope you both get to come home soon.

I have never tested positive for GB. BUT it can come and go, if you want ask them to retake the test in a week or 2 and it might come up neg.

[Lizzie Lizard]

That is what they said, it comes and goes and it not a big deal. I'm fine with it. I don't think they will test again.

Everyone is scaring me that this labor is going to go really fast?? What are yalls experiences after the first. My salesguy keeps telling me with his 2nd his wife's water broke and 2 hours later they had a baby?

[Lizzie Lizard]

One more thing! I am crazy and starting my christmas shopping today. I need to go downtown for some items and I decided just to knock it out. I want to make things easier on myself. I never have started this early. AM I crazy or did one of you all mention you were going to start shopping too?

[mommymachine]

My first two labours were 6 hours and my last two were 4.5 hours.
I have started Christmas shopping and I plan on gettin it all done before baby gets here!

[zem7]

Had my Dr visit today. Rozline is head down!! So one less thing to worry about. He decided that he wanted to check me, because of my irritable uterus. Just wanted to see where I was sitting. I am dilated to a 1 and 50 percent effaced. At least my body is doing something!! He said if I went into labor now they would not stop it.

My shortest labor was 6 hours my longest labor was with my first at around 9 hours. My sisters second labor was 4 hours LONGER then her first. Each labor is different, just like each pregnancy.

Haven't even begun to think of christmas stuff to be honest! lol Maybe should get on that one huh?

[zem7]

Oh I also started to put on weight again.... I am now at 142 pounds. So have put on 22 pounds.. EEK! lol Hopefully don't put on much more.

[mommymachine]

Yay for 1 centimetre! That's so exciting!

[Lizzie Lizard]

It is exciting, Zem! I have my appointment in 2 hours. We will see if I am doing anything.. Glad she is head down too.

[mommymachine]

I don't get another appointment until Wednesday when I will be 36 weeks. My doctor is away until November 12!!!

[Lizzie Lizard]

Hi, just got back. She has dropped and is low... I said my hips have really started hurting and my rib cage less so that make sense.

I am a "good" 1 cm dialated and 60% effaced!

[mommymachine]

Oh goodness! We are getting so close! Now I really want to know if I've made progress! I don't know if they will check me or not on wednesday. They will test for group B but I'm hoping they will check me.

[bythestream]

Had my check up yesterday, everything good. I was measuring right on where as I was a couple of cm bigger the last few times. She hasn't dropped yet. I'm hoping she's not planning on being overdue.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Bythe******! I was just going to ask about you and if you had a check up. I really think mine just dropped the day before... as I said as I was doing my shopping my hips started hurting and that night my rib cage didn't hurt as much. She will drop and not be overdue. Fingers crossed! I walked around 1 cm dilated and him dropped for a few weeks and then he came on time.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Oh, and my heartburn is gone!! Yay!! I just made my husband stop and get me pepcid and chewing gum on the way home. I popped one that night and haven't thought about it since.

[zem7]

So we took the kids to get pumpkins today (we were going to do this last weekend, something came up). We all went on a hay ride and they went through a grass and hay maze. They also all got pony rides. After that we went and picked a pumpkin for each of them to carve later this week. I think they had a good time. Last night my hubby and I went on a little date, went and saw a movie, had some coffee at a shop, and just sort of had a lazy night out. Something we don't get to do often, so it is nice to get away from all the kids every once and a while.

[bythestream]

Sounds like a lovely weekend Zem.

[Lizzie Lizard]

That does sound lovely, Zem. I had lots of BH contractions the ... I do not want to have a baby on Halloween! She'd better stay put!!

[mommymachine]

I wouldn't want a baby on halloween either! I'm so happy for you ladies who are already full term! I feel like I still have forever left.

[Lizzie Lizard]

I am glad you agree with me, mommymachine. I don't want to ruin the night for my son and who really wants to have their birthday on Halloween?

I feel like it goes so fast at the end! Just try to enjoy it. You will be here before you know it! xoxo

[zem7]

I will be happy to have this little girl any time AFTER Nov 7th lol. I will be 37 weeks at that point, so all should be well. My husband thinks I will make it to the induction at 39 weeks. I am hoping for 38 weeks, have had that number stuck in my head since I was around 13 weeks. Don't know why, it may just be wishful thinking lol.

Anyone think they will be the next to go? Its always exciting once babies from your birth month start having babies. It makes it feel like the end is near. I have a little over 3 weeks left. Haven't put up anything, may need to get moving on that lol. I think I may put my DH to work this weekend lol.

Its starting to get cold here, hopefully the cold holds out till after Thursday. I don't want my kiddo's freezing for trick or treating. They are so excited.

I know this may sound totally odd, but I am actually looking forward to birth. lol. I feel so much more prepared this time compared to my other 4. I feel if I am able to go on my own, without the help of pit. I could do it without the help of pain meds. Does anyone else feel excited, or am I just crazy? lol

[zem7]

Oh we also went and picked out her coming home outfit this past weekend. Well actually my DH picked it out. Its so cute lol. He also picked out the cutest socks and shoes. They are so small, excited to see how big she will be. I don't have big babies, my biggest was 7.5 pounds. So the cloths are newborn size, hopefully they fit. my smallest baby was 6.10 pounds and the NB cloths were too big! He looked like he was swimming in them when we brought him home from the hospital. Had to make an quick run to get him some preemie cloths!!

Anyone got a guess on how big they think baby will be? I have been thinking she may be my biggest. So am guessing she will be 8 pounds even. My DH is guessing 7.8 pounds.

Sorry for so much posting today! lol Just feel like a chatty mood i guess! lol Have a good night ladies.

[bythestream]

I've had a few consistent BH too Lizzie they were quite strong the other night. I always thought the 1st of Nov for birth but now I'm not so sure, I hope so though. My DHs birthday is on the 8th and he doesn't want to share. My boys were 8lb8 and 8lb3 I have it in my mind that she will be smaller but I guess that depends when she comes. I'm hoping for 7lbs

[bythestream]

Finished the nursery too, just need to finish off a blanket I'm crocheting and fit the cat seat then she can come anytime.

[Lizzie Lizard]

Zem, so fun. I picked out an outfit for mine too. Your DH goes and helps you do stuff like that? What a sweetie. My husband would tell me when could bring her home in a blanket. ha.

My DS came right on time and was 7 lbs 10 oz. I am hoping the same for her, but she was measuring a little bigger during the ultrasound. We will see. I have a weird feeling I might go sooner, but hopefully that's just because I am not ready yet! I say Zem or Bythe******. :)

Glad to hear you have had some strong BH too. Mine used to come when I was doing something and it made sense. These were like you said, they were strong and a couple even woke me up in the middle of the night... for no reason. Yikers!

You sound ready, byth******. I definitely say you go next. ha My hubby is building shelves for the closet that I requested. I am going to get paint today for the room (finally decided). I need to get the car seat out. This is so me. I always pull everything together at the last second! ha.

[bythestream]

Argh feeling awful, upset stomach :( woke at midnight last night with the worst heartburn ever and diarrhoea managed to get back to sleep then unwell again this morning. Not sure if it's things beginning to happen or not, feeling some mild contractions too. Don't think it's a virus as noone else has been sick and it doesn't feel like one.