♥ May 2011 Blue Cheer Squad Thread ♥

[My Fabulous Children]

If you take a break the it has to be a log one right and you don't want that. I mean if you go off the diet for like 2 months then you have to be on again at least 6 weeks ( but I think 3 months is what we have to do right?) to do it right. So that's like 5 months before ttc again?
What you gonna do? Better get a bfp this month!( I hope)

It sucks :( when you do it all over again, And for a LONG time. On the top of that late O and I mean REALLY late ...

That's why I'm confused. Honestly don't know what to do ..I wanna try this time and see If it's a BFP, that would be insanely awesome.

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi wondering if i can join this thread :) feel a bit nervous as I have only really been reading thus far and this makes it all real.


♥ Cheekymoo
♥ Swaying Status: 2 weeks into diet/supplements 6 weeks to 1st try (early july)
♥ TTC DC #3 (2 girls)
♥ Your approach to blue sway: Eating lots meat, potatoes, tomatoes, , fruit and veg and cereal x2 day. Salting all possible. Snacking througout the day. Cut out chocolate, fizzy drinks and sweets limiting calcium but not strictly (no dairy etc but still eating some in vege etc. Drinking green tea, and v8 veg juice both once a day and different fruit juices, lemon water. Doing weights once week.Supplements i am on 2000mg FA, 50mg zinc, potassium suplements, 1000mg fish oil, 500mg vit E, will do ASG, BSF month of try, as well as guanaifesen 5 days prior to ov.

Welcome!

[My Fabulous Children]

I would consider your O to be on CD14, so bd on day 8, then on 12, then 14. Do you think you actually O on the 2nd day? I would guess so.

:agree: have DH "release" on CD8 then DTD CD12, 4 days abstinence then DTD 0-2 on CD 14.

[My Fabulous Children]

I am still waiting .. waiting.. waiting to O :( I'm on CD 27!!!

[My Fabulous Children]

TTC5, I think your birthday it's today? Happy birthday hun, XOXO. :celebrate:

[babydes56]

I am still waiting .. waiting.. waiting to O :( I'm on CD 27!!!

Do you usually have long cycles? I can ovulate on cd33, well that's if i'm lucky enough to ovulate. I REALLY wish i was like most women who ovulate every month & know on what day too, wow!

[babydes56]

I have well and truely hit the part where I am OVER swaying! Man, give me a girl sway any day!
My skin is oily and I have huge blemishes. I am fat, and I have soo much wind lol.
I am so over eating all the time, and feeling like a big fat slob!!!

rant over lol

Sorry you feeling this way, when are you doing your attempt?

[babydes56]

Welcome, Cheekymoo! Don't be shy, we are all over the place so ask away. TTC5, I definitely take about 30 pills a day when swaying, but like princess said.....kinda wondering if I should.....

Same here but the one thing i know i have to do is improve egg quality because when i look back at the times when i have ovulated i have felt that i didnt fall preg due to egg quality. I dont know if all the other many supplements we taking & especially us long ttc are doing us good. In the UK there's been talk of taking supplements off shelves because they say people are mis-using them

[Cheekymoo]

Oh TTC5 ((hugs)) there is nothing worse than feeling fat and yucky IMO....... you poor thing! When is your next attempt?? I will be sending some vibes your way! :)

My fabulous children thanks for the welcome! I will def be asking some stuff although i feel like I should be wearing 'L' plates or something! Perhaps I should have a sign that says forgive me my stupid questions I'm a newbie LOL

I have decieded to start the ASG 1 drink a day and see how that affects my ph.....anyone have any other things that worked particularily well for them...I have a feeling PH is going to be my nemisis in this swaying thing- and here I was thinking giving up the truck loads of sugar I was eating per day would do the trick- def a niave newby here!

[princessap]

:agree: have DH "release" on CD8 then DTD CD12, 4 days abstinence then DTD 0-2 on CD 14.

I ovulate on CD14 so I would need to
DTD CD 12 for o-2 and then O day on CD14, right? and have DH release CD 8

[princessap]

another question....I get positive opk on CD 14 so would I count CD 15 as o day??

[Zivic-Bubac]

If you usually get 2 days of + OPK, the general consensus is to BD the night of + OPK. Then you will probably be a few hours ahead of O which sway :xy:

If you usually get 3 days of + OPK, then I'm not sure, probably the night of 2nd + OPK :think: Hope somebody will chime in :happy:

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Hey Guys,

If you check out my chart, all BFN's. I have to take a CBE digi every day for this group that I am starting at 8 dpo, but it has been depressing to see NOT PREGNANT everyday. I am 10 dpo, and just assuming I am out this month. I have been getting zits the last two days- is this a boy sign or bad diet sign?

[daisyfay311]

I have well and truely hit the part where I am OVER swaying! Man, give me a girl sway any day!
My skin is oily and I have huge blemishes. I am fat, and I have soo much wind lol.
I am so over eating all the time, and feeling like a big fat slob!!!

rant over lol

Yes, that is exactly how I feel! I wanted to try so badly this month, just to get pregnant and get this over with, and then when I got the YI and couldn't, I was just BAWLING. DH thought it was great, that we need more time to prepare, and I was just like, "By the time we can try again, I will be so fat you won't want to!" and then floods of tears.

If I ever get a baby boy and I can convince DH to have another, it will be a girl sway for sure!

[daisyfay311]

If you usually get 2 days of + OPK, the general consensus is to BD the night of + OPK. Then you will probably be a few hours ahead of O which sway :xy:

If you usually get 3 days of + OPK, then I'm not sure, probably the night of 2nd + OPK :think: Hope somebody will chime in :happy:

What if you only get one day of smiley OPK?

[princessap]

If you usually get 2 days of + OPK, the general consensus is to BD the night of + OPK. Then you will probably be a few hours ahead of O which sway :xy:

If you usually get 3 days of + OPK, then I'm not sure, probably the night of 2nd + OPK :think: Hope somebody will chime in :happy:
So to DtD every 48 hours i want to make sure I do it first day of positive opk and then 48 hours before that right?

[My Fabulous Children]

Do you usually have long cycles? I can ovulate on cd33, well that's if i'm lucky enough to ovulate. I REALLY wish i was like most women who ovulate every month & know on what day too, wow!

No. I usually *used* to ovulate on CD 19-21 my cycle was fine until the supplements messed up my cycle. I feel you I wish I was like most women who ovulate every month so I can make more attempts & know on what day too. I am always wishing hoping just to make an attempt like everyone else. I've been swaying for a long time, but I make only a few attempts. My cycles are 40days+ :( I dropped L'arg will see if my cycle come back.

Long cycles more opks & more supplements = A lot of money!! :hair:

What cycle day are you no?

[My Fabulous Children]

I have well and truely hit the part where I am OVER swaying! Man, give me a girl sway any day!
My skin is oily and I have huge blemishes. I am fat, and I have soo much wind lol.
I am so over eating all the time, and feeling like a big fat slob!!!

rant over lol

So sorry TTC5! I feel you, XOXO. So are you doing your attempt in June?

[My Fabulous Children]

Cheekymoo, I do ASG 1 drink a day ..also BSD & COT twice a day. Also you can try ACV it suppose to help your pH, but it's so nasty :mad: I hate it.

[My Fabulous Children]

I ovulate on CD14 so I would need to
DTD CD 12 for o-2 and then O day on CD14, right? and have DH release CD 8

Right, Good luck I hope you get your BFP this time.

[My Fabulous Children]

If you usually get 2 days of + OPK, the general consensus is to BD the night of + OPK. Then you will probably be a few hours ahead of O which sway :xy:

If you usually get 3 days of + OPK, then I'm not sure, probably the night of 2nd + OPK :think: Hope somebody will chime in :happy:

I get 3 days of +OPK so I DTD the night of 2nd + OPK.

So Princess BD the night of + OPK so that's on CD 14.

[My Fabulous Children]

Hey Guys,

If you check out my chart, all BFN's. I have to take a CBE digi every day for this group that I am starting at 8 dpo, but it has been depressing to see NOT PREGNANT everyday. I am 10 dpo, and just assuming I am out this month. I have been getting zits the last two days- is this a boy sign or bad diet sign?

Still early ..I got a bfn at 10 dpo n got my bfp at 11 dpo. GL on testing again.

[My Fabulous Children]

What if you only get one day of smiley OPK?

I would BD the night of smiley face. If you only get one.

[babydes56]

No. I usually *used* to ovulate on CD 19-21 my cycle was fine until the supplements messed up my cycle. I feel you I wish I was like most women who ovulate every month so I can make more attempts & know on what day too. I am always wishing hoping just to make an attempt like everyone else. I've been swaying for a long time, but I make only a few attempts. My cycles are 40days+ :( I dropped L'arg will see if my cycle come back.

Long cycles more opks & more supplements = A lot of money!! :hair:

What cycle day are you no?

I know exactly what you mean, i am on CD9.

[babydes56]

Princessap, i agree with all said. Are you trying to dtd more than once to up your chances of getting preg?

[babydes56]

Am i the only one who has stomach upset with COT? How does it affect you all?

[daisyfay311]

Am i the only one who has stomach upset with COT? How does it affect you all?

I mix mine with the bsd and the first couple of times, I did have a bit of an upset stomach. It got better though. I'm done with it until AF arrives--I don't think my body would like too much of it!

[TTC5]

Am i the only one who has stomach upset with COT? How does it affect you all?

Maybe use a little less and let your tummy adjust to it? x

[TTC5]

So sorry TTC5! I feel you, XOXO. So are you doing your attempt in June?

I don't know =(
So much is going on right now =(
I cried all day yesterday from all this stress and today can't even eat (and it is my birthday too) I feel like getting in my car, driving away if it wasn't for my girls I would.

[TTC5]

TTC5, I think your birthday it's today? Happy birthday hun, XOXO. :celebrate:

Aww thankyou so much! This has made my day =)

[princessap]

Princessap, i agree with all said. Are you trying to dtd more than once to up your chances of getting preg?

Yes I really want to be pregnant and so I am giving up on timing and DTD once. I dtd once on O day when we conceived DD1 so am hoping diet changes help. plus I am 35 and my clock is ticking. Are you still doing it once?

[My Fabulous Children]

I know exactly what you mean, i am on CD9.

I really really hope it's my month. Good luck.

[My Fabulous Children]

I mix mine with the bsd and the first couple of times, I did have a bit of an upset stomach. It got better though. I'm done with it until AF arrives--I don't think my body would like too much of it!

Me too. I mix it with bsd and it did upset me a little, but I got used to it :sigh:

[My Fabulous Children]

I don't know =(
So much is going on right now =(
I cried all day yesterday from all this stress and today can't even eat (and it is my birthday too) I feel like getting in my car, driving away if it wasn't for my girls I would.

I am so sorry to hear this hun, maybe wait a little bit hopefully things will get better.. I hope you feel better soon. Take it easy, try to relax! I know it's tough. I know it's hard not to worry, because I worry about all things around, swaying alone its very hard and very stressful ((HUGS))

[My Fabulous Children]

Aww thankyou so much! This has made my day =)

I hope this year brings you everything you desire! especially that little boy :heart:

[TTC5]

I hope this year brings you everything you desire! especially that little boy :heart:

Thankyou so much, that is so kind x

[LolaInLove]

Same here but the one thing i know i have to do is improve egg quality because when i look back at the times when i have ovulated i have felt that i didnt fall preg due to egg quality. I dont know if all the other many supplements we taking & especially us long ttc are doing us good. In the UK there's been talk of taking supplements off shelves because they say people are mis-using them

Oh, I know...you know I keep thinking our egg and sperm quality is bad, hence the m/c back to back. I am mostly taking all of the antioxidants and such, not messing with the Larg and all this time. I agree, wonder if it is not good for me to take anything that wouldn't be "healthy" anyway, I worry about the long term effects of taking all the hormone pills.

[LolaInLove]

another question....I get positive opk on CD 14 so would I count CD 15 as o day??

Didn't you say you get 2 days of +? I would count the second day as your O day. I usually get the same, as my opk is still + when I ovulate, then goes negative towards the end of ovulation time period (the 24 hours or so the egg is viable, I mean).

[LolaInLove]

Hey Guys,

If you check out my chart, all BFN's. I have to take a CBE digi every day for this group that I am starting at 8 dpo, but it has been depressing to see NOT PREGNANT everyday. I am 10 dpo, and just assuming I am out this month. I have been getting zits the last two days- is this a boy sign or bad diet sign?

So sorry, I know it is depressing. You are not necessarily out at 10dpo, that is still early for many people. I think the increased acne is a sign of both increased testosterone and good progesterone production in the 2ww, so good signs for you all around. Keep testing! And don't get frustrated if it takes you a while to get pg....take it from me, a long timer.....it can take women who are not swaying and just ttc the truly natural way months to get pg anyway.

[LolaInLove]

I don't know =(
So much is going on right now =(
I cried all day yesterday from all this stress and today can't even eat (and it is my birthday too) I feel like getting in my car, driving away if it wasn't for my girls I would.

OH hun, I am so sorry!!! I know how you feel, I feel the same way.....fat, awful, unattractive, etc....and it is so hard to focus on ttc and swaying when you have family crap going on. I have had months of being totally exasperated with it all. Just take a deep breath and do what you need to do to get through each day. And I do hope you at least had a somewhat good birthday! We are here for you girl, feel free to vent away.

[LolaInLove]

TTC5, I'm just throwing this out there.....and I may be way off base and this sound horrible.....but sometimes when things get overwhelming for me, I just have to cut some stuff out and do what is best for me and DH and the kids, even if it means putting other outside family members last. You sound way too stressed, and I know you can't kick your mom out because she is going through such a hard time, so maybe you and DH could brainstorm about ways that you can simplify and get them all taken care of and OUT of your house so you can breathe again. Heck, if for nothing else, just say you feel it's affecting your girls to have such commotion in your home, kwim? I think I can speak for us all and say we are worried about ya!!! And again, I know that may be undoable, but just consider some options because you shouldn't be crying and not eating all day, girl. XOXO

[iluvmyman]

I can totally relate...I gained 5 kg and I'm closer and closer to my weight when I was 9 months pg w/my girls http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sad050.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Anyway, I want to share smthg w/you guys....
This morning I ran into a sort-of-acquaintance lady ( our daughters are going in the same kindergarten) and she is very obviously pregnant lol! She has 2 girls already so I immediately asked is this baby a boy or a girl :p
Guess what....It's a boy....they allegedly wanted 3rd girl (:sigh: right...Are you buying that story?) I was beyond jealous, she didn't even sway and I already spent a fortune on supps etc :hair: And she is younger than me ( well everybody is, I should get used to that fact :D )

I felt like this http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) like she was deliberately trying to hurt me ( how disturbed am I ?)

It was so hard to say: Congratulations....:sad:

But I got new motivation, like- just wait I will get my :DS:too. Hmmm, this doesn't sound healthy lol!

LOL! I think that's normal to feel that way. When my DH was estranged for a while my SIL would refer to her DH as "my husband" all the time w/ me in conversation and it felt like it was on purpose. It wasn't but just say your DH's name, why call him "my husband in a normal conversation.

I don't want to tell you how I feel about my friends bump on a log/no personality/no will to live son who is turning 1 soon. It's not nice.

[iluvmyman]

Two attempt. Ovulation -02 so that's two days before ovulation with a 4 day abstinence. And BD on O day with a two day abstinence.

If you are doing to BSD or BSF and EW, do you use those both times then. I'm assuming yes. Is overall the best kinda timing. Not the BD 12 hrs after 1st OPK or I've also read night on 2nd + opk

[iluvmyman]

Sorry about BFN, blue team not having much luck lately what's going on? I hope we all have better luck soon
Thank you everyone!

[iluvmyman]

Iluvmyman - sorry about af, I really hope someone puts a muzzle on her soon.

I'm thinking I need to go back to checking in a couple times a day, you ladies have been to chatty to fully catch up on lol
Feeling good here, need to watch my eating more as I've gone back to my old ways a bit. I really don't want my hiatus to destroy my chances so it'll be regimented meals and snacks for me. I've spent way to much time and put on too much weight to let my body to suddenly think it's famine time again. Sunny day today, the park is calling.

Amen to both of these comments.

[iluvmyman]

Iluvmyman....thanks for the response, this sucks and I really hope we all get BFPs soon. I haven't been swaying for a year. I did have an early m/c and then stopped for a few months and then swayed a little for a month when we conceived our son who we lost at 14 weeks, so I stopped swaying the whole time I was pregnant and didn't think I would sway again so I TTC without swaying for a few months. I am swaying now but really only doing diet and some supps {folic acid is really the only one}...my OB advised against other supps and I trust her so we are sticking to natural. I am hoping it all works out!

14 weeks, so sorry! Augh! You hit that 12 week mark and everything is supposed to be Ok, right!? So sorry!

It really seems like diet is the most important so put 110% into that. Supps seem to be 2nd. I don't think something like Fish Oil could be bad for you, but totally do whatever feels right. It's scary after a loss to do anything. If I get a BFP, I'm going to the naturopath and checking everything with him. Timing and all of that is debated, I'm just trying all of it. Bummed I slacked on the diet but it is what it is. Sure am hoping for a BFP this month. AF just stopped 2 days early but expect a normal cycle for O.

BFP's in May!!!!

[iluvmyman]

:agree: have DH "release" on CD8 then DTD CD12, 4 days abstinence then DTD 0-2 on CD 14.

Ooooh, thank you, I have it calendered and will try this. I didn't like Only trying once. I know timing is least important but I like this.

[iluvmyman]

Oh TTC5 ((hugs)) there is nothing worse than feeling fat and yucky IMO....... you poor thing! When is your next attempt?? I will be sending some vibes your way! :)

My fabulous children thanks for the welcome! I will def be asking some stuff although i feel like I should be wearing 'L' plates or something! Perhaps I should have a sign that says forgive me my stupid questions I'm a newbie LOL

I have decieded to start the ASG 1 drink a day and see how that affects my ph.....anyone have any other things that worked particularily well for them...I have a feeling PH is going to be my nemisis in this swaying thing- and here I was thinking giving up the truck loads of sugar I was eating per day would do the trick- def a niave newby here!

URAL is great. There is a sticky about it, if you are interested I can link to it for you. Check PH near or on O, as that's what counts. giving up the loads of sugar will surely help. :) LOL. diet is the way to go and your supps.

[iluvmyman]

Yes I really want to be pregnant and so I am giving up on timing and DTD once. I dtd once on O day when we conceived DD1 so am hoping diet changes help. plus I am 35 and my clock is ticking. Are you still doing it once?
we are so the same, princess. I'm 35, tried DTD once and got BFN. I'm going to try what MFC suggested. Timing isn't supposed to mean much so I like upping my chances by trying twice. When are you trying this time? I s/b trying around the 22nd and 24th this month.

[iluvmyman]

So sorry, I know it is depressing. You are not necessarily out at 10dpo, that is still early for many people. I think the increased acne is a sign of both increased testosterone and good progesterone production in the 2ww, so good signs for you all around. Keep testing! And don't get frustrated if it takes you a while to get pg....take it from me, a long timer.....it can take women who are not swaying and just ttc the truly natural way months to get pg anyway.

I break out w/ hormones in general. PMS, then the week after AF. When I'm prego too. It's just hormones for me no matter what the cause. 35 and still breaking out, I hate it!

[iluvmyman]

I don't know =(
So much is going on right now =(
I cried all day yesterday from all this stress and today can't even eat (and it is my birthday too) I feel like getting in my car, driving away if it wasn't for my girls I would.

Been there! Not w/ swaying but I have wanted to just take off sometimes. They pass at least. If you are finding yourself really really depressed make sure you take care of yourself and see someone is necessary. It just nice to talk it out sometimes. That's why this groups is so theraputic. :)

[iluvmyman]

OH hun, I am so sorry!!! I know how you feel, I feel the same way.....fat, awful, unattractive, etc....and it is so hard to focus on ttc and swaying when you have family crap going on. I have had months of being totally exasperated with it all. Just take a deep breath and do what you need to do to get through each day. And I do hope you at least had a somewhat good birthday! We are here for you girl, feel free to vent away.

I went on date night w/ DH Saturday and forced myself to do my hair, make-up and dressed nice. Took out DH's motorcycle too and had a really fun night. I needed it and feel much better about myself. I get sick of looking at myself in the mirror sometimes and then I know it's time to look nice or get my hair done. :)

[iluvmyman]

Gee, can you tell I'm catching up with my 8 posts in a row or so. Begonia, this should make you happy, although the wit is out for a bit. :)

[iluvmyman]

TTC5, do you think we could move these Cheer Squad threads to a private forum going forward. I'd hate for some of this to be posted for all time on a public thread.

[LolaInLove]

TTC5, do you think we could move these Cheer Squad threads to a private forum going forward. I'd hate for some of this to be posted for all time on a public thread.

Good point....maybe we can just talk about the private stuff on the Baby Blue Club forum?

[LolaInLove]

I went on date night w/ DH Saturday and forced myself to do my hair, make-up and dressed nice. Took out DH's motorcycle too and had a really fun night. I needed it and feel much better about myself. I get sick of looking at myself in the mirror sometimes and then I know it's time to look nice or get my hair done. :)

It does help....I've started putting some more effort into looking good, not to mention went to Target and bought a few new cute things in my nice BIGGER size, for the time being. I justified it to myself by saying they could be worn in 1st trimester and after baby if I end up going back down in size....and, um, ever getting pregnant!

[iluvmyman]

THANKS, ILuv....it was not the best Mother's Day, but I did spend the day thinking about how lucky I am to have the two sweet girls I have been blessed with. You know, when you go through losses, you grieve for a while and then have to start perking up and remembering what you DO have.

So sorry you got a bfn.....I wrote in another post about this.....but I was totally there when I first ttc, I thought it would be a piece of cake. I had never used opks or anything, so I was all thinking, hey, if I'm hitting the nail on the head and putting sperm by my egg, this should take no time. Well, being 35 (34 then!!!), that was a crock. Just be patient....there aren't many of us who had a one hit wonder, no matter the age! Seems to me like you are doing an excellent job of researching swaying and getting a great plan in place, so you will get where you want to be soon, I am sure of it.

Thanks Lola. I am for sure very thankful for what I have and am truly blessed. I find times like mother's day and just random things will make me sad, but I just have to acknowledge those thoughts, pray and about it and mourn again but not dwell too much. it's up and down and, it just sucks. Sometimes hit me harder than others, but we just have to keep on going. My other kids have been a great blessing and a lesson that life has to keep going.

I never worried that much either about getting prego. I take a lot for granted and have been learning some pretty hard lessons. Nothing is for certain. My twin is 16 weeks right now and tried for a year using OPK's. You just never know. FX this doesn't take that long. We'll see. I'm still totally gonna whine about it every time I get a BFN though. :)

[LolaInLove]

ILuv, feel free to whine away, that's what we are here for, and I definitely do my fair share of whining (which I try to make up for by being positive after that!). I think at our age, which by no means is OLD, but, you know....we should just be thankful that we can get pg within a year!

[iluvmyman]

It does help....I've started putting some more effort into looking good, not to mention went to Target and bought a few new cute things in my nice BIGGER size, for the time being. I justified it to myself by saying they could be worn in 1st trimester and after baby if I end up going back down in size....and, um, ever getting pregnant!

LOL! it was hot here for a couple days and I had to put on maternity shorts. So Sad! I was going to hit up Target too for a couple of shorts. I tried on my Fat shorts when I was concealing my pregnancy with DS2 and they were too small. My fat shorts don't even fit. It's too hard not to laugh.

I did cry when I had to buy 2 pairs of jeans in a bigger size and higher waist to hide the muffin top after DS2. I told my husband it was like I had all of the "bad" parts of giving birth and none of the good. When you have a newborn in your arms it's like you think people go "oh, she just had a baby, it's ok for her to be heavy." and I didn't have a newborn.

Oh well, just part of the process. I need to go buy some shorts though. Good point about the 1st trimester. Glass half full, right. :)

[iluvmyman]

ILuv, feel free to whine away, that's what we are here for, and I definitely do my fair share of whining (which I try to make up for by being positive after that!). I think at our age, which by no means is OLD, but, you know....we should just be thankful that we can get pg within a year!

LOL! True dat!

[LolaInLove]

:sad: That does suck, hun. I can only imagine how empty that must have felt....I'm so sorry!

BUT if it makes you feel any better, I can't fit into my FAT and MATERNITY shorts now!!!!

[iluvmyman]

Good point....maybe we can just talk about the private stuff on the Baby Blue Club forum?

It would be nice to have the entire threads since you never know how the conversations will go. I've pm'd now and then on stuff but it would be easy to just feel oK about saying more.

[iluvmyman]

:sad: That does suck, hun. I can only imagine how empty that must have felt....I'm so sorry!

BUT if it makes you feel any better, I can't fit into my FAT and MATERNITY shorts now!!!!

Awww, thanks for throwing yourself under that bus and making me feel better. It just is what it is. I guess I will have to do my hair and make-up more often to make up for the....you know....extras. Thank goodness DH still likes all of me. :)

[begonia]

LOL! I actually had brunch yesterday with another couple and the wife was like, wow, you look way different with lipstick! Guess I need to make an effort a leeeetle more often. I pretty much live in running shorts (oh how I miss you, running) and tops. Elastic waists hide a multitude of potatoes!

This is DD's last week of preschool and they have packed it full of celebrations and parties and I have had no time to hang out here. Crazy thing, I have had LOADS of EWCM this cycle! It started Saturday and my OPKs are still only near positive, not full +, but I think the EWCM might be going away. I swear every cycle my EWCM leaves the day or two before I O. Why can't they hold hands and be together?!? Ah well. I am having a hard time waiting to TTC lately. Part of me just wants to get it over with, LOL!

[iluvmyman]

LOL! I actually had brunch yesterday with another couple and the wife was like, wow, you look way different with lipstick! Guess I need to make an effort a leeeetle more often. I pretty much live in running shorts (oh how I miss you, running) and tops. Elastic waists hide a multitude of potatoes!

This is DD's last week of preschool and they have packed it full of celebrations and parties and I have had no time to hang out here. Crazy thing, I have had LOADS of EWCM this cycle! It started Saturday and my OPKs are still only near positive, not full +, but I think the EWCM might be going away. I swear every cycle my EWCM leaves the day or two before I O. Why can't they hold hands and be together?!? Ah well. I am having a hard time waiting to TTC lately. Part of me just wants to get it over with, LOL!

What the heck is lipstick? :) You miss running???? What a horrible thing to say! I hate running. If I had to run away or die, get that coffin ready.

Just DTD when you have EWCM and get those sperm waiting for the egg, yo! If you are that close to O, just go for it, right!?

[TTC5]

I agree DTD when you get that beautiful ewcm!!!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Ugh. I am always hitting the wrong button to reply.

BFN and 12 DPO. I think I am out. I usually have 13 day LP's so we will see. I got a positive FRER on 12 DPO with DD.

So, I want to discuss timing, as I think only dtd the once per cycle is not good- I like the dtd every 48 hour idea, except that you might totally end up with an O-2. For eg. dtd the one night, and if the next, you get a +opk, you don't want to dtd that night because it would only be 24 hours- so you dtd the following night (which is likely O day and you miss it entirely). That is the one thing that scares me about dtd every 48 hours.

My cycles aren't predictable, sometime I O on cd13, sometimes cd17 (or anywhere in between).

[princessap]

Thanks Lola. so my plan is to DTD cD 12 and 14. what do u think?

[princessap]

we are so the same, princess. I'm 35, tried DTD once and got BFN. I'm going to try what MFC suggested. Timing isn't supposed to mean much so I like upping my chances by trying twice. When are you trying this time? I s/b trying around the 22nd and 24th this month.

We are totally in the same situation! Fingers crossed for both of us this month. I am attempting 21 and 23. I am confused as to whether attempt on first night of +opk or second. I am going to do first as I dont want to miss ovulation completely
So I am going to DTD Cd11 and 13 (+opk days 13 and 14 usually).

[Cheekymoo]

iluvmyman- Thanks for that yes i have heard of ural i actually have some here hmmmm might drink1 uraul one ASG per day- I was hoping the diet/supplements would raise my ph a little and then i could use the other stuff to raise it more but when i tested my cm at 'o' just gone using a diva cup to collect i was supper bummed when it hasn't risen at all. So I am wondering how much of these drinks it is 'normal' to need to drink to raise it...so i at least have a reasonable starting point IYKWIM.................

[LolaInLove]

Ugh. I am always hitting the wrong button to reply.

BFN and 12 DPO. I think I am out. I usually have 13 day LP's so we will see. I got a positive FRER on 12 DPO with DD.

So, I want to discuss timing, as I think only dtd the once per cycle is not good- I like the dtd every 48 hour idea, except that you might totally end up with an O-2. For eg. dtd the one night, and if the next, you get a +opk, you don't want to dtd that night because it would only be 24 hours- so you dtd the following night (which is likely O day and you miss it entirely). That is the one thing that scares me about dtd every 48 hours.

My cycles aren't predictable, sometime I O on cd13, sometimes cd17 (or anywhere in between).

Spicy, that is the hard thing about timing....if you are unpredictable (like I am), sometimes you just gotta give it your best guess as to when you might be at 0-2....what I have done before, and plan to do in the future, is when my opk is just darn near + but not a true positive (I get several days of fade-ins), then we dtd, with the hopes that late the next day, it is truly +, meaning then we dtd the following day, which would likely be O day.

Sometimes it is really hard to predict, which is why the SMEP/Deanna's plan works very well. It may not necessarily be optimum boy sway timing, but I don't think the timing matters as much as the way your body is when you have sperm meet egg. But, that is up to everyone's individual belief about it.....many gals on our old thread (who now have baby boys, mind you), just dtd once on O day, and some dtd two days in a row right around O (like day before and day of, or day of O and day after even), and some dtd every day for like 3 days. In fact, just to make you feel better....and I know I've written this before, so sorry if I'm repeating....but a few of us got obsessed with getting the timing down, particularly the unpredictable O girls. We checked out FF charts with "pregnant with boy" in the keywords, and it appeared that there was ALL sorts of dtd sequences, but one thing they all had in common was dtd on O day for sure. Most of them, in fact, dtd two days in a row, O-1 and O day. I think it is best to try to have a 48 hour gap, so I would *try* to do that if you can, but the SMEP plan gets people pregnant, that is for sure, so not a bad timing sequence to follow.

http://www.pregnancyloss.info/sperm_meets_egg_plan.htm

Of course, I am a bit more laid back about the timing....I just want to get pregnant, and since I'm 35, don't want to mess around with it too much. I have faith that if I do the diet and supps solidly for 6 weeks and get pg, that I have a better chance at a son than a daughter....but also I don't care if I get another girl at this point, because it ain't as easy for me as it used to be!

[LolaInLove]

Thanks Lola. so my plan is to DTD cD 12 and 14. what do u think?

I think it sounds like a plan. If you are regularly Oing on CD14, that is easy for you! I would still take the opks just to be sure, but should work like a charm!

[LolaInLove]

It would be nice to have the entire threads since you never know how the conversations will go. I've pm'd now and then on stuff but it would be easy to just feel oK about saying more.

Good point....but only the members can get on the private forums, right? I don't want the newbies to have no place to jump in, that's my only worry. Whatcha think?

[LolaInLove]

LOL! I actually had brunch yesterday with another couple and the wife was like, wow, you look way different with lipstick! Guess I need to make an effort a leeeetle more often. I pretty much live in running shorts (oh how I miss you, running) and tops. Elastic waists hide a multitude of potatoes!

This is DD's last week of preschool and they have packed it full of celebrations and parties and I have had no time to hang out here. Crazy thing, I have had LOADS of EWCM this cycle! It started Saturday and my OPKs are still only near positive, not full +, but I think the EWCM might be going away. I swear every cycle my EWCM leaves the day or two before I O. Why can't they hold hands and be together?!? Ah well. I am having a hard time waiting to TTC lately. Part of me just wants to get it over with, LOL!

I was reading on some other thread yesterday about that very thing....some lady has the same issue, and Atomic said that the ewcm is still in there on O day, it just come out in bunches beforehand. She said to still dtd as you would for boy/girl as far as timing goes and not worry about it. You *could* theoretically dtd when you have the ewcm and probably still be ok for a boy, though (although I wouldn't do that) because the ewcm will keep the sperm good and healthy. Actually, when you think about it, that is not bad at all because if you dtd 0-2 and O, you know you'll have good ewcm the whole time to keep em sturdy.

[LolaInLove]

We are totally in the same situation! Fingers crossed for both of us this month. I am attempting 21 and 23. I am confused as to whether attempt on first night of +opk or second. I am going to do first as I dont want to miss ovulation completely
So I am going to DTD Cd11 and 13 (+opk days 13 and 14 usually).

Well, Atomic suggests to dtd 12 hours after first +opk for a boy, so not a bad idea!

[iluvmyman]

Ugh. I am always hitting the wrong button to reply.

BFN and 12 DPO. I think I am out. I usually have 13 day LP's so we will see. I got a positive FRER on 12 DPO with DD.

So, I want to discuss timing, as I think only dtd the once per cycle is not good- I like the dtd every 48 hour idea, except that you might totally end up with an O-2. For eg. dtd the one night, and if the next, you get a +opk, you don't want to dtd that night because it would only be 24 hours- so you dtd the following night (which is likely O day and you miss it entirely). That is the one thing that scares me about dtd every 48 hours.

My cycles aren't predictable, sometime I O on cd13, sometimes cd17 (or anywhere in between).

So Sorry Spicy! Man, what is the deal w/ no boy team BFP's?

[hope.ful]

Ok, ladies I think our day to dtd is either tomorrow or Thursday! We've been on this crazy boy diet for 6 weeks, and even though our ph numbers are good, they're not fantastic, but we're going to take a shot at it. I hope we get a BFP fist attempt (wouldn't be unusual). You ladies who have been doing this for months are my hero! Wish me luck!!

[iluvmyman]

Good point....but only the members can get on the private forums, right? I don't want the newbies to have no place to jump in, that's my only worry. Whatcha think?

Yes, you're right Lola, I didn't even consider that. Can't really do the private.

[LolaInLove]

Yes, you're right Lola, I didn't even consider that. Can't really do the private.

Well, we should just hint at the Baby Blue Club if we have tmi or sensitive questions!

[LolaInLove]

Ok, ladies I think our day to dtd is either tomorrow or Thursday! We've been on this crazy boy diet for 6 weeks, and even though our ph numbers are good, they're not fantastic, but we're going to take a shot at it. I hope we get a BFP fist attempt (wouldn't be unusual). You ladies who have been doing this for months are my hero! Wish me luck!!

LUUUUUUCK!!!! Don't worry about your ph too much....are you doing ew or preseed? If so, you are adding a higher ph to the mix and will be just fine! Oh, and not to mention the bsf if you do that also.

[iluvmyman]

We are totally in the same situation! Fingers crossed for both of us this month. I am attempting 21 and 23. I am confused as to whether attempt on first night of +opk or second. I am going to do first as I dont want to miss ovulation completely
So I am going to DTD Cd11 and 13 (+opk days 13 and 14 usually).

I was going to DTD on CD14, not 13. I think I do have 2 days of + opk's too. Last cycle was the 1st time I've tracked w/ OPK's and I had the 2 days. I'm just hoping I'm still on a 28 day cycle. Better early than late so I'm not sure. If we DTD on CD12 then there might even be sperm waiting and CD13 or CD14 might not matter. I guess then on each attempt we should do the ew, bsf, caffeine and whatever else, like do 2 full go's I guess.

[iluvmyman]

iluvmyman- Thanks for that yes i have heard of ural i actually have some here hmmmm might drink1 uraul one ASG per day- I was hoping the diet/supplements would raise my ph a little and then i could use the other stuff to raise it more but when i tested my cm at 'o' just gone using a diva cup to collect i was supper bummed when it hasn't risen at all. So I am wondering how much of these drinks it is 'normal' to need to drink to raise it...so i at least have a reasonable starting point IYKWIM.................

I'm doing the URAL: 1 packet 3x's per day since I'm running low but will up that to 2 packets 3x's per day depending on how much I have closer to O. You are supposed to take the URAL AF-O only. What was the ASG again?
Here's Atomic's link to the drink which might help. I'm just doing the URAL at this point. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1515-Boy-friendly-beverages
Do you remember what your PH was when you tested at O, last time? Did you do the URAL then?

[iluvmyman]

Ok, ladies I think our day to dtd is either tomorrow or Thursday! We've been on this crazy boy diet for 6 weeks, and even though our ph numbers are good, they're not fantastic, but we're going to take a shot at it. I hope we get a BFP fist attempt (wouldn't be unusual). You ladies who have been doing this for months are my hero! Wish me luck!!

GL!! Do you have any questions?

[iluvmyman]

Well, we should just hint at the Baby Blue Club if we have tmi or sensitive questions!

Sounds good.

[TTC5]

Ok, ladies I think our day to dtd is either tomorrow or Thursday! We've been on this crazy boy diet for 6 weeks, and even though our ph numbers are good, they're not fantastic, but we're going to take a shot at it. I hope we get a BFP fist attempt (wouldn't be unusual). You ladies who have been doing this for months are my hero! Wish me luck!!

Good Luck!!!

[TTC5]

Ugh. I am always hitting the wrong button to reply.

BFN and 12 DPO. I think I am out. I usually have 13 day LP's so we will see. I got a positive FRER on 12 DPO with DD.

So, I want to discuss timing, as I think only dtd the once per cycle is not good- I like the dtd every 48 hour idea, except that you might totally end up with an O-2. For eg. dtd the one night, and if the next, you get a +opk, you don't want to dtd that night because it would only be 24 hours- so you dtd the following night (which is likely O day and you miss it entirely). That is the one thing that scares me about dtd every 48 hours.

My cycles aren't predictable, sometime I O on cd13, sometimes cd17 (or anywhere in between).

My o pattern is like that too =(

[TTC5]

Hi girls =)

How is everyone? So I am now just waiting for AF she could start in a few days and then I am starting my urals just in case we do try in July!! I just ordered some preseed too :)

I have not been as strict with my diet as I first started off but going by my body (weight gain, pimples and finally I am more cm down there LOL) I figure things are changing enough for a good sway??

[princessap]

I was going to DTD on CD14, not 13. I think I do have 2 days of + opk's too. Last cycle was the 1st time I've tracked w/ OPK's and I had the 2 days. I'm just hoping I'm still on a 28 day cycle. Better early than late so I'm not sure. If we DTD on CD12 then there might even be sperm waiting and CD13 or CD14 might not matter. I guess then on each attempt we should do the ew, bsf, caffeine and whatever else, like do 2 full go's I guess.

Do u think you are risking o+12 dtd CD 14?? i dont know what to think about timing. when we conceived our son we dtd
cd 13 and 14 so totally goes against boy timing by dtd 24 hours apart. I guess early is better?!? Now u have me thinking if i should do days 12 and 14 instead.

[iluvmyman]

Do u think you are risking o+12 dtd CD 14?? i dont know what to think about timing. when we conceived our son we dtd
cd 13 and 14 so totally goes against boy timing by dtd 24 hours apart. I guess early is better?!? Now u have me thinking if i should do days 12 and 14 instead.

LOL! Now you have me thinking I should do Day 11 and Day 13. I had read MFC's post and calendered it from there. I'll have to look again and make sure I have it right. I'm not too worried about the timing this time but I'll look at it again. Too funny!

[princessap]

which post are u going by??

[begonia]

Hi ladies!

FX for you hope.ful! A 1st time BFP would be great for you and great for our group b/c we need a BFP to celebrate :-)

Lola thanks for the advice from Atomic re: EWCM before O; I thought I remembered reading the same thing so now I'm sure of it. It's crazy. I had some more this am but am thinking it might be gone. But still no +OPK. I was expecting to O Thursday before all the crazy EWCM showed up, then I thought I'd O early ... but now I'm thinking maybe it won't be early after all! My TTC plan is the O-2 and O day plan though so I should be able to catch some good EWCM with the O-2 attempt. When we do attempt. September feels forever away. And it might even be October before we try.

Spicy I'm super bummed for you. FX the next attempt is it for you! Iluv when is yours? And yours, Princess?

TTC5 how is your daughter doing? I was just thinking about that for some reason and hoping all is well with her now.

I want someone to get a BFP!!!! And I want Skrimpy to have her baby girl and show us pictures :-) And I want a pony. Since I'm just listing it all right now ;-)

[iluvmyman]

Start w/ your post on pg 48. OK, here's Atomic's sticky on timing that I'll review and you can too if you get a chance and we'll touch base.
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1359-Shettles-method-of-timing-for-boy-and-girl-Part-1

Ready......GO!

[iluvmyman]

Hi ladies! My TTC plan is the O-2 and O day plan though so I should be able to catch some good EWCM with the O-2 attempt. When we do attempt. September feels forever away. And it might even be October before we try.

Spicy I'm super bummed for you. FX the next attempt is it for you! Iluv when is yours? And yours, Princess?

I want someone to get a BFP!!!! And I want Skrimpy to have her baby girl and show us pictures :-) And I want a pony. Since I'm just listing it all right now ;-)

Me and Princessp are debating timing right now and I need to read Atomic's post just to be clear re: DTD on CD 13 or CD14 if you are obviously on a 28 day cycle. MFC, answered this but now I'm confused...again :sigh:and need to make sure....again. At this point I will be doing protected BD in the am tomorrow (CD8) Then again on Sunday the 22nd (CD12) & again on Tues. the 24th (CD14) The debate is DTD on CD11 & CD13 or CD12 & CD14. Begonia, I assume we do the full EW's Caffeine etc. on both boy attempts, right?

You just need to pipe it and do this with me this month, Begonia. Come on, you know you want to!! We seriously need a BFP this month and I, Iluvman, will volunteer for a BFP this month. That's right, I will sacrifice myself on the sword or pregnancy......for you! :)

[iluvmyman]

[QUOTE=begonia;35039]Hi ladies!
Lola thanks for the advice from Atomic re: EWCM before O; I thought I remembered reading the same thing so now I'm sure of it. It's crazy. I had some more this am but am thinking it might be gone.

I think I just read that stuff here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?3330-Can-t-figure-out-when-to-dtd

Post#3 by Atomic

[iluvmyman]

OK, here is a link when I was talking to Atomic about this http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?3135-Cut-offs/page2
I think either way on the CD's 13 or 14 we'll be OK.

[begonia]

Iluv, your selflessness knows no boundaries. Thank you for being so bold as to volunteer to be a BFP for our group this month :-) LOL! I hope you are!!! If you know you O CD14, I would DTD (the whole shebang, with EW's, caffeine and such) on CD12 and CD14. But I do agree, I think either way 11/13 or 12/14 you're in great shape for TTC boy. Hooray for some attempts coming up soon!

I would LOVE to join in this month! But DH is a firm no on that. I try to let him think he has some weight in the decision so ... ;-) We'll wait. But now I'm wondering if I did in fact miss my O? All that EWCM is gone this am, and still no +OPK! Going to keep testing til CD14 (Friday) because in a normal cycle I usually get a +OPK on the pm of CD13. So ... maybe it is still to come? But my OPK's were getting darker and darker but not +, and then this morning it was lighter! So I'm actually glad we aren't ttc this month b/c I'd have no clue what to do.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

I agree- no BFPs this month? How many of us are active ttc? I am 13 dpo bfn and temps are dropping. The good news is that my LP is a good length. When I was bfing it was 7 days. It will come ladies! I am still debating about dtd eod. I don't want to miss it! I only have 4 more shots!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

I think dtd the evening of the OPK makes sense, to make sure the sperm are prepared for the eggs release. They go to sleep in the fallopian tubes and are woken by a chemical messenger when the egg releases. If you wait until the next day- you may not give them enough time to make it up the tubes.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Spicy, that is the hard thing about timing....if you are unpredictable (like I am), sometimes you just gotta give it your best guess as to when you might be at 0-2....what I have done before, and plan to do in the future, is when my opk is just darn near + but not a true positive (I get several days of fade-ins), then we dtd, with the hopes that late the next day, it is truly +, meaning then we dtd the following day, which would likely be O day.

Sometimes it is really hard to predict, which is why the SMEP/Deanna's plan works very well. It may not necessarily be optimum boy sway timing, but I don't think the timing matters as much as the way your body is when you have sperm meet egg. But, that is up to everyone's individual belief about it.....many gals on our old thread (who now have baby boys, mind you), just dtd once on O day, and some dtd two days in a row right around O (like day before and day of, or day of O and day after even), and some dtd every day for like 3 days. In fact, just to make you feel better....and I know I've written this before, so sorry if I'm repeating....but a few of us got obsessed with getting the timing down, particularly the unpredictable O girls. We checked out FF charts with "pregnant with boy" in the keywords, and it appeared that there was ALL sorts of dtd sequences, but one thing they all had in common was dtd on O day for sure. Most of them, in fact, dtd two days in a row, O-1 and O day. I think it is best to try to have a 48 hour gap, so I would *try* to do that if you can, but the SMEP plan gets people pregnant, that is for sure, so not a bad timing sequence to follow.

http://www.pregnancyloss.info/sperm_meets_egg_plan.htm

Of course, I am a bit more laid back about the timing....I just want to get pregnant, and since I'm 35, don't want to mess around with it too much. I have faith that if I do the diet and supps solidly for 6 weeks and get pg, that I have a better chance at a son than a daughter....but also I don't care if I get another girl at this point, because it ain't as easy for me as it used to be!

Absolutely. I am only 26, so age is not an issue, but I only have 4 more cycles to try, then we have to stop because of job situations. Very few sperm make it to the end, and if you dtd only once, very few might make it. But if you have VERY fertile ewcm, then dtd twice seems to cover you. I am, in the end, not going to worry too much about timing either. Just give it my best shot!

I have seen the FF boy charts too- and they basically show people trying a lot around O time. Seems to make sense.

[LolaInLove]

Me and Princessp are debating timing right now and I need to read Atomic's post just to be clear re: DTD on CD 13 or CD14 if you are obviously on a 28 day cycle. MFC, answered this but now I'm confused...again :sigh:and need to make sure....again. At this point I will be doing protected BD in the am tomorrow (CD8) Then again on Sunday the 22nd (CD12) & again on Tues. the 24th (CD14) The debate is DTD on CD11 & CD13 or CD12 & CD14. Begonia, I assume we do the full EW's Caffeine etc. on both boy attempts, right?


You just need to pipe it and do this with me this month, Begonia. Come on, you know you want to!! We seriously need a BFP this month and I, Iluvman, will volunteer for a BFP this month. That's right, I will sacrifice myself on the sword or pregnancy......for you! :)

Here is the thing....you definitely want to take opks to track your ovulation....do NOT just go by the days CD13 and 14, assuming you will O then! Honestly, if I were you guys, I would take the opks and when they look almost positive, go for it. Or, if you have been charting and tracking and your O is pretty consistent *even* with the supps and diet thrown in the mix, then dtd around cd11 or 12. Then, when your opk turns definitely positive, just dtd about 12-18 hours after that. You will be in the zone then. And yes, you want to do the full nine yards each time, with Dh having some caffeine and you doing ew and whatever else you choose. I would for sure have you and DH take a mucus-thinner, like Mucinex or Robitussin, about an hour before your attempts also.

Like Princess said, she conceived her boy dtd 2 days in a row....and Atomic said she's conceived her boys with frequent bding also, in about every pattern possible.....just goes to show how little timing and abstinence has to do with it. Don't stress about it too much....even if you end up dtd 24 hours apart because your first attempt was say, on CD12, and then your opk suddenly turns + later that day, just go for it and don't worry about it. I know we all want to give this our best shot, but do remember that even if you just loosely eat the diet, take a few supps, and use preseed or ew, you are way upping your odds of your dice turning up blue! Believe me, I want a son more than anything, but the reality is that even if I try to make everything just perfect and do every little swaying thing there is, I still may end up with a girl, or may end up never getting pregnant at all. That little personal rant being said, I say don't worry about the timing and frequency as much. Your DH is still going to make millions of sperm after 24 hours, and if your body is primed to be more boy-friendly from diet and supps, then you are in good shape!

[LolaInLove]

Absolutely. I am only 26, so age is not an issue, but I only have 4 more cycles to try, then we have to stop because of job situations. Very few sperm make it to the end, and if you dtd only once, very few might make it. But if you have VERY fertile ewcm, then dtd twice seems to cover you. I am, in the end, not going to worry too much about timing either. Just give it my best shot!

I have seen the FF boy charts too- and they basically show people trying a lot around O time. Seems to make sense.

I hear ya, girl. Well, if you really want to get pg in your next 4 shots (and I totally relate because once we ttc again in August, I am only going to try for about 3 or 4 months, then I'm officially giving up), I would do the diet 100%, I would use preseed or ew, I would take all the good cm supps like fish oil and whatnot, I would use some of the drinks to up your ph as much as you can, and after that, I would do whatever it takes to get pregnant, meaning do the SMEP plan or just dtd every other day. Seriously, my doctor told me (after 4 months of ttc with no bfp) that she wanted me to bd on this schedule: starting on CD10, every other day, so CD10, 12, 14, 16, and 18....until I feel like I ovulated. She advised to take opks and all, but just to bd every other night straight through. That is another option that is good if you are worried about your DH's sperm count.

And YESSSSS I agree, someone has got to turn up pg soon!

[LolaInLove]

Oh, and Begonia....I think I had that early ewcm thing this month myself! I had it a few days ago, and it cleared up. Then, yesterday, I had massive pains in my left ovary (which is the one that was growing follies as they saw on my last u/s a couple of weeks ago, so they said I'd probably O out of the left this time....the right still had the corpus luteum on it from the miscarried pregnancy). I didn't take opks this month as we are not trying, although I kinda wish I did now so I would know better when I did O, but it doesn't really matter because we've got 2 more months to pass over my dwindling eggs!!!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

I hear ya, girl. Well, if you really want to get pg in your next 4 shots (and I totally relate because once we ttc again in August, I am only going to try for about 3 or 4 months, then I'm officially giving up), I would do the diet 100%, I would use preseed or ew, I would take all the good cm supps like fish oil and whatnot, I would use some of the drinks to up your ph as much as you can, and after that, I would do whatever it takes to get pregnant, meaning do the SMEP plan or just dtd every other day. Seriously, my doctor told me (after 4 months of ttc with no bfp) that she wanted me to bd on this schedule: starting on CD10, every other day, so CD10, 12, 14, 16, and 18....until I feel like I ovulated. She advised to take opks and all, but just to bd every other night straight through. That is another option that is good if you are worried about your DH's sperm count.

And YESSSSS I agree, someone has got to turn up pg soon!

Yay- the only thing I have to be worried about is DH- he gets performance anxiety- but we will probably DTD twice or so around O. I did the whole 9 yards- 100% diet for both of us, Ews- even with floods of ewcm, mucinex, ph drinks, and my ph was up to a 7- it was amazing, just no pg. :)

It will come! :)

[begonia]

I like that attitude, Spicy .. it will come!!! Sounds like you're doing a great sway so I think when you do get that BFP you're going to have a really good shot at a baby boy :-)

Lola I quit doing the OPK's for a few months, like Jan-April, just because I knew we weren't trying and those suckers are pricey! And I can tell usually with CP/CM at least the general time I O, so I know my LP is still good even though I have the danged spotting issue now. Ugh. Anyhow, I decided to pick them back up since I have about 4-5 months to track things again. Really want to make sure my LP is long enough but might go get my progesterone checked anyway right before we TTC.

Does anyone else find they get super hungry around their O? I always have. The week of my O I am an eating machine!

[TTC5]

Morning friends..
Well yesterday was a horrible day (i mean, horrible emotionally) Mum has been taken in to a "safe house" with a nearby womens shelter. The people there are lovely and have so much help for her that I could not do but I feel awful. Cried alot yesterday, helped Mum move in there and my siblings. I hope she does not think we threw her out, but these people had a little unit for her to stay in for the next few weeks and will try to help find her a permanent home. I am allowed to visit when I like but not DH as men are not allowed. It feels horrible but I do believe it is for the best to get this help she needs. =(

On a brighter note, we are attempting in June! My temps are dropping so AF is on her way and it is all systems go lol. I am sooo nervous but soo excited!! So is DH =) Yesterday with all the stress I hardly ate and he made me a ham sandwich and said "Babe, you need to eat" and this morning he told me I HAVE to eat "remember" LOL!!

So only around 2-3 weeks and we may conceive a little boy - fingers crossed for us!!

[daisyfay311]

I would LOVE to join in this month! But DH is a firm no on that. I try to let him think he has some weight in the decision so ... ;-) We'll wait. But now I'm wondering if I did in fact miss my O? All that EWCM is gone this am, and still no +OPK! Going to keep testing til CD14 (Friday) because in a normal cycle I usually get a +OPK on the pm of CD13. So ... maybe it is still to come? But my OPK's were getting darker and darker but not +, and then this morning it was lighter! So I'm actually glad we aren't ttc this month b/c I'd have no clue what to do.

This is just how I am this month. Got tons of EWCM (which I usually do 2-3 days before O), kept thinking I'd get a smiley face OPK, and then nothing. I should have O'd several days ago. I'm hoping to try next month and now I have no idea when to expect AF or what's going on. Frustrating!

[daisyfay311]

Morning friends..
Well yesterday was a horrible day (i mean, horrible emotionally) Mum has been taken in to a "safe house" with a nearby womens shelter. The people there are lovely and have so much help for her that I could not do but I feel awful. Cried alot yesterday, helped Mum move in there and my siblings. I hope she does not think we threw her out, but these people had a little unit for her to stay in for the next few weeks and will try to help find her a permanent home. I am allowed to visit when I like but not DH as men are not allowed. It feels horrible but I do believe it is for the best to get this help she needs. =(

On a brighter note, we are attempting in June! My temps are dropping so AF is on her way and it is all systems go lol. I am sooo nervous but soo excited!! So is DH =) Yesterday with all the stress I hardly ate and he made me a ham sandwich and said "Babe, you need to eat" and this morning he told me I HAVE to eat "remember" LOL!!

So only around 2-3 weeks and we may conceive a little boy - fingers crossed for us!!

So sorry you are having a hard time. :( But yay on trying next month! I hope to try next month too. Good luck!!!

[TTC5]

Fingers crossed for us both Tiffany =)

[hope.ful]

TTC5, sorry you had a rough day! Thanks for all the well wishes, everyone! I am on Mucinex 1200/day and I still don't have much EWCM but what I have is good, and we're going to use Preseed. I think I'll do the BSF, but I have a TMI question even though I saw someone say there is no such thing on here...how far up do you go with the BSF, and do you wipe it on something, or what? I'm a little leary of doing it, I don't want to mess anything up. I had my temp drop today but no OPK + so we're going to wait for that. I'm thinking tomorrow night has got to be the night! You ladies are the best! Can't wait to share our good news (hopefully). =)

[Plum3]

Just wanted to wish all the ladies TTC this month good luck!

[Cheekymoo]

Yes I second that!! Goodluck everyone TTC this month I hope this is your lucky month! Thanks to everyone who has been posting about timing BD - you have given me some food for thought there- I will be watching this thread carefully over the next few weeks to see what you all deciede to go with and how it turns out for you- BRING ON THE BFPS!

ILUV I have a PH of 5 normally and tested after 2 weeks of diet and supplements but no BS drinks or ACV or anything and it was still 5 at 'o'......so i am trying the ural and alkaseltzer gold and will test this month at 'O' just to see if i need to do more the following month when I TTC for the first time - I am soo nervous :)

[LolaInLove]

Hopeful, you want to wet the tip of your finger, then dip it in the baking soda, so there is like a little white "skull cap" on your finger, then put it in, but don't touch your cervix, it burns. You do want to go close to the cervix, though. So far in there, but not all the way.

TTC5, I know that must have been SOOOOO hard and I hope you are doing ok. I agree with you that it is probably best for everyone, and don't feel bad that you couldn't provide more help to your mum, she needs a lot of mental therapy to get over the abusive relationship, trust me, I've been there. And, with it being a safe house, you know she will be safe. And, this allows your immediate family to get their lives back to normal and you to be way less stressed, so GOOD all around!

Begonia, I am going to start the opks and tracking again probably next month. I do the same thing and skip our "skip" months because those suckers are indeed expensive!

And who was talking about performance anxiety? I think Spicy....well, you just gotta spice it up to make it less "I'm ovulating, let's go!" which it does get to be for us since we've been ttc so long! My magic trick is lacy panties, although they don't look as hot as they used to!

[3Pink1Blue]

TTC5 - You're doing the best you can hun, keep you're head up.

Begonia - I bought 40 opk off ebay for about $8 and they've been working just fine. You may want to check this out instead of getting them from the store.

So funny thing going on here but it is a little tmi. DH is very susceptible to those "come get me" pheromones released around O, well for the first time since my bfp last Aug he's been crazy horny the last few days. I've had a ton of ewcm and my opk's are getting darker. I think I should have waited for him to tell me I'm fertile instead of spending all these months making myself nuts lol Since I've still been taking the sups we've decided to go for it. I haven't eaten any potatoes the last week but have still eaten tons of high potassium foods. I haven't eaten the jello or any grains either but I've been stuffing myself with meat/veg and fruit so I feel pretty confident I still have a pretty solid boy sway going on. At this point I so just want a baby, blue would be amazing but I just really want a new tiny one.

[LolaInLove]

Sweet! Good luck, 3!!!!! I know, that pheromone thing is crazy! A friend of mine (who, incidently is 41 and has a 2 year old boy who she tried for), said they didn't take opks, just went by her ewcm and her husband's increased sex drive because of her pheromones, which she says he can totally detect.....so maybe you're in good shape!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Thanks Lola, I'm hoping his reaction is based on my body finally being ready. He swears he's felt nothing out of the ordinary till about 48 hrs ago and he's been super handsy ever since. I'm still not holding my breath but I feel positive that I'm actually going to get there soon instead of getting there eventually.

[begonia]

Wow the pheromone thing is crazy cool! SO excited for all these attempts we have coming up! I would LOVE to see every single one of you get a BFP!

Daisy, I think I either never O'd or totally missed it with the OPK's this time ... which would be hard since I took them at least 1x a day since CD8. I'm super glad we weren't trying but at the same time so confused! My CP/CM are definitely telling me the O window closed; I am still going to do an OPK today and tomorrow but I will be beyond surprised if I get a +. On the one hand I am happy I had so much EWCM but on the other I don't know WTH happened with the actual egg!

Jen I think if you've still been doing the supps and eating a good amount of nutritious food then you've got a fab shot at blue! Given that I think I missed the OPK this cycle I might just take your advice and get the ebay ones. I just can't believe that I missed it taking 1 a day... they were darkest on Sunday so I am wondering if maybe I had too much liquid or not enough time between potty breaks? I've never not gotten a +.

TTC5 ITA with others that while I am sure it was just crazy hard to do, it sure sounds like it was the RIGHT thing to do, and that is what is most important. Here's hoping your mom gets all the help she needs. And FX June gives you a BFP! Your DH sounds like he's been a sweetie through all of this :-)

[LolaInLove]

I feel positive that I'm actually going to get there soon instead of getting there eventually.

:agree: AMEN sister!!!! That'a an amen for all of us.

[begonia]

Well I just took an OPK and it was flat out white, so I am SURE I either O'd on Sunday/Monday or just didn't O at all, because they were pretty dark Sunday. I have a pretty standard 14 day LP so we'll see when AF starts. I wonder though, if I didn't O, will that impact the LP?

[babydes56]

Hi ladies, hope you all well! Seems there's more women trying for girls than boys, we've done well then havent we? I feel under a lot of pressure to have a boy since 2 of my friends have had their DG confirmed in the last 2wks. I also feel i shouldnt have told anyone that i was trying for another child because i'm so sick of being asked if i'm preg yet, aaargh!

[babydes56]

TTC5 - You're doing the best you can hun, keep you're head up.

Begonia - I bought 40 opk off ebay for about $8 and they've been working just fine. You may want to check this out instead of getting them from the store.

So funny thing going on here but it is a little tmi. DH is very susceptible to those "come get me" pheromones released around O, well for the first time since my bfp last Aug he's been crazy horny the last few days. I've had a ton of ewcm and my opk's are getting darker. I think I should have waited for him to tell me I'm fertile instead of spending all these months making myself nuts lol Since I've still been taking the sups we've decided to go for it. I haven't eaten any potatoes the last week but have still eaten tons of high potassium foods. I haven't eaten the jello or any grains either but I've been stuffing myself with meat/veg and fruit so I feel pretty confident I still have a pretty solid boy sway going on. At this point I so just want a baby, blue would be amazing but I just really want a new tiny one.

GL with your attempt, i really hope this is your month!!

[begonia]

Hi ladies, hope you all well! Seems there's more women trying for girls than boys, we've done well then havent we? I feel under a lot of pressure to have a boy since 2 of my friends have had their DG confirmed in the last 2wks. I also feel i shouldnt have told anyone that i was trying for another child because i'm so sick of being asked if i'm preg yet, aaargh!

Oh I feel ya. Every one of my friends knows we want one more baby and they are CONSTANTLY waiting to see me quit drinking wine on the girls night out! I swear once I am there will be no way to hide it among these super sleuths I surround myself with ;-)

[princessap]

Iluvmyman....so about our debate! LOL....we are going to end up doing it CD 12 and 14...just the way it is going to work out with DHs work schedule etc. Fingers crossed for BFPs for us this month!

Jen, that is awesome...maybe your body is trying to tell you something! Good luck, when is attempt?

[TTC5]

GL with your attempt, i really hope this is your month!!

Thankyou!

[TTC5]

Hopeful, you want to wet the tip of your finger, then dip it in the baking soda, so there is like a little white "skull cap" on your finger, then put it in, but don't touch your cervix, it burns. You do want to go close to the cervix, though. So far in there, but not all the way.

TTC5, I know that must have been SOOOOO hard and I hope you are doing ok. I agree with you that it is probably best for everyone, and don't feel bad that you couldn't provide more help to your mum, she needs a lot of mental therapy to get over the abusive relationship, trust me, I've been there. And, with it being a safe house, you know she will be safe. And, this allows your immediate family to get their lives back to normal and you to be way less stressed, so GOOD all around!

Begonia, I am going to start the opks and tracking again probably next month. I do the same thing and skip our "skip" months because those suckers are indeed expensive!

And who was talking about performance anxiety? I think Spicy....well, you just gotta spice it up to make it less "I'm ovulating, let's go!" which it does get to be for us since we've been ttc so long! My magic trick is lacy panties, although they don't look as hot as they used to!

Thanks Lola xx

[TTC5]

TTC5 - You're doing the best you can hun, keep you're head up.

Begonia - I bought 40 opk off ebay for about $8 and they've been working just fine. You may want to check this out instead of getting them from the store.

So funny thing going on here but it is a little tmi. DH is very susceptible to those "come get me" pheromones released around O, well for the first time since my bfp last Aug he's been crazy horny the last few days. I've had a ton of ewcm and my opk's are getting darker. I think I should have waited for him to tell me I'm fertile instead of spending all these months making myself nuts lol Since I've still been taking the sups we've decided to go for it. I haven't eaten any potatoes the last week but have still eaten tons of high potassium foods. I haven't eaten the jello or any grains either but I've been stuffing myself with meat/veg and fruit so I feel pretty confident I still have a pretty solid boy sway going on. At this point I so just want a baby, blue would be amazing but I just really want a new tiny one.

Wow that is so cool, must take not myself see if my hubby does the same, lol x

[TTC5]

Wow the pheromone thing is crazy cool! SO excited for all these attempts we have coming up! I would LOVE to see every single one of you get a BFP!

Daisy, I think I either never O'd or totally missed it with the OPK's this time ... which would be hard since I took them at least 1x a day since CD8. I'm super glad we weren't trying but at the same time so confused! My CP/CM are definitely telling me the O window closed; I am still going to do an OPK today and tomorrow but I will be beyond surprised if I get a +. On the one hand I am happy I had so much EWCM but on the other I don't know WTH happened with the actual egg!

Jen I think if you've still been doing the supps and eating a good amount of nutritious food then you've got a fab shot at blue! Given that I think I missed the OPK this cycle I might just take your advice and get the ebay ones. I just can't believe that I missed it taking 1 a day... they were darkest on Sunday so I am wondering if maybe I had too much liquid or not enough time between potty breaks? I've never not gotten a +.

TTC5 ITA with others that while I am sure it was just crazy hard to do, it sure sounds like it was the RIGHT thing to do, and that is what is most important. Here's hoping your mom gets all the help she needs. And FX June gives you a BFP! Your DH sounds like he's been a sweetie through all of this :-)

Oh we had a moment last week or so but think the stress was getting to him. In all honesty, if I were not married I'd have Mum with me forever =( But that it just not good for her, either hey? she needs to get independant again, without a man. The last two have both been abusers :'(

[TTC5]

Well I just took an OPK and it was flat out white, so I am SURE I either O'd on Sunday/Monday or just didn't O at all, because they were pretty dark Sunday. I have a pretty standard 14 day LP so we'll see when AF starts. I wonder though, if I didn't O, will that impact the LP?

I am not sure?

[begonia]

Oh we had a moment last week or so but think the stress was getting to him. In all honesty, if I were not married I'd have Mum with me forever =( But that it just not good for her, either hey? she needs to get independant again, without a man. The last two have both been abusers :'(

ITA - she does need to get independent again, without you or anyone else as a crutch ... hard as it might be to watch. Same with kids, really, right? As much as you want to rescue them when they get into an altercation on the playground you KNOW you have to let them learn to defend themselves, because one day you won't be there to do it for them. Not saying you can't be there to cheer her on when she succeeds or needs some encouragement, but really, she has to do this on her own IMHO. You're doing the right thing here lady!

[begonia]

Oooooo ... if my LP does stay the same and I'm right that I O'd on Monday, my next O should be right on my birthday in June! How can I possibly pass that up?!?! Must get lacy panties and seduce DH ;-)

And since it is a running theme on here I will throw out that I squeezed into a bathing suit today to take my girls swimming, even though it was still quite chilly ... I looked VERY squidgy :-( So I guess the diet is working ... I hate weighing myself (after years of obsessing I finally stopped, I am sure many of you can identify knowing our histories) but hopped on today and am probably up about 5 lbs. It is amazing what a mere 5lbs can do! Why can't it go to my chest?!?! LOL! That would make the seduction next month soooo much easier ;-)

[princessap]

okay girls just a quick question. my mil made a casserole tonight and put parmesean cheese in it which I know is not on boy diet. I only had about 1/2 cup and only found out after that it had parm cheese spice in it. how much did this mess up my sway???

[begonia]

I wouldn't worry Princess! Parm is acidic, but it is also very high in sodium, so there's a plus! Also since it is such a strong flavor you typically don't need to use much, so I doubt you got a ton of calcium from it being in a casserole. And you didn't eat much of it, so I don't think you should think twice about it. When is your 1st go? I know you're doing CD 12 and 14 but what day will that be? Soon, right?

[princessap]

thanks! Attempt days are saturday and monday!!

[TTC5]

Princess, I would not worry at all!! It would not harm ur sway :) x

[hope.ful]

Ok, so how many of you are O-2 and then O? I was shooting for O but totally missed the mark, and I think I hit O-2, so should we BD again on O? I have no idea why my body decided to add 2 days before O'ing this month, but it's freaking me out. My husband wants blue so bad! I know God is ultimately in control, and prayers are the most important part of the equation, but what are your thoughts??

[LolaInLove]

Ok, so how many of you are O-2 and then O? I was shooting for O but totally missed the mark, and I think I hit O-2, so should we BD again on O? I have no idea why my body decided to add 2 days before O'ing this month, but it's freaking me out. My husband wants blue so bad! I know God is ultimately in control, and prayers are the most important part of the equation, but what are your thoughts??

Swaying, particularly the supplements, can throw your cycle off a bit....don't be alarmed. Just means we have to track it like bloodhounds. I would totally bd again on O day if you only did it on O-2!

[LolaInLove]

thanks! Attempt days are saturday and monday!!

Good luck! And no worries about the cheese....I don't think calcium or dairy hurts your blue sway at all, quite the opposite now, actually.

[hope.ful]

Swaying, particularly the supplements, can throw your cycle off a bit....don't be alarmed. Just means we have to track it like bloodhounds. I would totally bd again on O day if you only did it on O-2!

Thanks! Good to hear we maybe haven't completely blown it. My sister followed Shettles and got her boys, so when I realized I was 2 days off, I was so bummed. I thought for sure that this morning my CM would have shifted and I would have hit it right on O, but obviously not! Tracking like bloodhounds for sure! =)

[TTC5]

Ok, so how many of you are O-2 and then O? I was shooting for O but totally missed the mark, and I think I hit O-2, so should we BD again on O? I have no idea why my body decided to add 2 days before O'ing this month, but it's freaking me out. My husband wants blue so bad! I know God is ultimately in control, and prayers are the most important part of the equation, but what are your thoughts??

I think this is what I am doing! I would def try again on O, better to be early for blue don't they say?

[3Pink1Blue]

We did O-2 and O this month too. I'm all for dtd till the cm turns but I'm 75% just wanting a bfp.

[begonia]

Hope.ful I second all the others .. I plan to do 0-2 and O for sure. And HELLO?!? crazy, DH said sure we can try in June. I am shocked! I mean, I've been doing the diet/supps (loosely some months for sure, and more focused on increasing protein/nutrients than anything else) since October 2010, so I guess I'm as ready as I'll ever be! I didn't even have to break out the lacy panties to get him on board ;-)

Princess hope the attempt goes well today!!! Jen, how many DPO are you?

[Cheekymoo]

Begonia LOL about the panties -haha When in june will you be ovulating ?? We might be trying around the same time:) I originally thought i would be O first few days in july but since taking these supplements I am ovulating a few days sooner than normal so far - so it may be end of june!

hope.ful - Goodluck with your attempt maybe it was just meant to be a 0-2 and o trying month funny how stuff works out!

I have a Newbie question here for you experienced girls- just wanted to make sure I have everything right- What do I NOT take in the 2WW?? I was thinking baking soda/cream of tartare all products along those lines....Gelatin?? is that ok in 2WW- or not really much point WDYT?....lemon water should be ok-right? Gunafisin(can't spell) you stop that right?? Anything else this is sooo complicated ????????????
I am stressing I am gonna try and not get preggas cause i am killing of the embies with something i forget to stop taking LOL

I have spent so much time writing out what I need to take , when to take them and how to hang from the chandaliers that now i am halfway through I have realised I don't know exactly what can be taken in the 2WW ! So would appreciate a little advice :)

[begonia]

OK so was just checking the calendar re: attempt in June. Not sure about my O this month since I never got a +OPK, but I *think* I O'd Monday, so I should start AF 5/29 ... while we are on vacation! BOOOOOO! Which means I won't be able to be 100% on the diet/supps for 2 days of AF... I will take some of my supps but not all on vacay... for example I am for sure not packing NYF, or wheatgrass. I'll eat a ton since it is vacay and it will all be eating out, which typically means high salt/fat, so I would think that will be OK.

Anyone think that missing the 2 days of supps will have an impact on my sway? Be honest. I want to try in June, but at the same time I want a good sway. FX Af is actually later than 5/30 and then this won't be a problem :-) Maybe I should go pop some L'arg since that seemed to work at delaying AF last month!

[begonia]

Begonia LOL about the panties -haha When in june will you be ovulating ?? We might be trying around the same time:) I originally thought i would be O first few days in july but since taking these supplements I am ovulating a few days sooner than normal so far - so it may be end of june!

hope.ful - Goodluck with your attempt maybe it was just meant to be a 0-2 and o trying month funny how stuff works out!

I have a Newbie question here for you experienced girls- just wanted to make sure I have everything right- What do I NOT take in the 2WW?? I was thinking baking soda/cream of tartare all products along those lines....Gelatin?? is that ok in 2WW- or not really much point WDYT?....lemon water should be ok-right? Gunafisin(can't spell) you stop that right?? Anything else this is sooo complicated ????????????
I am stressing I am gonna try and not get preggas cause i am killing of the embies with something i forget to stop taking LOL

I have spent so much time writing out what I need to take , when to take them and how to hang from the chandaliers that now i am halfway through I have realised I don't know exactly what can be taken in the 2WW ! So would appreciate a little advice :)

Cheekymoo, don't do BSD during the 2WW. That one I know FOR SURE! COT I'm not 100% b/c I'm not taking that. No robitussin/mucinex then either, and no EPO if you're taking that. Gelatin is OK, I actually take it every day for the extra protein. Lemon water is definitely OK.

I should O sometime around 6/11, so I think I'll be a bit earlier than you, but yes, with all the supps it is just hard to know when exactly you'll O these days! Personally I hang from the chandeliers by my toes ;-)

[hope.ful]

We did O-2 and O this month too. I'm all for dtd till the cm turns but I'm 75% just wanting a bfp.

I am so confused! I should have O'd on CD 14 (accordig to 8 months of previous temp charting) but I didn't, although(includig Muciex) we DTD. Now it's CD 16 and my CM is still clear and stretchy but I'm not getting an OPK + (I drink a lot of water). With DD2 we BD'd 12 hours after the first OPK+. Do you think it matters if I got the box of OPK's that says it's for in vitro? I have done the diet and supps for 6 weeks (including one glass of green tea every day or every other day, and Mucinex beginning at CD 9) and I have a little bit of blood in my CM. (sorry, TMI) Any thoughts? I'm thinking about BDing again tonight, just in case. I really want to do whatever will give us the best chance of getting a boy, and I'm afraid if we don't DTD again, we'll be in the girl zone. And I don't want to wait too long that my CM shifts. This is stressing me out! I love this group of ladies! You all are so great!

[3Pink1Blue]

begonia - I o'd yesterday lol

hope.ful - When I conceived last Aug I o'd cd13 where for months I had o'd cd 15, things can shift when your supps kick in. In-vitro opk's are fine, just means you can't pee right on em lol Are you making sure you hold it at least two hrs before taking the opk? Are you checking your cp? You can usually tell when O is approaching and when you have O'd based. It's not cut and dry but with some practice you can get a pretty good idea. GL!!

[begonia]

hope.ful I remember reading on here that some blood in CM near O is actually a good thing and a sign of a strong ovulation. I'm with 3PNB, keep POAS, but keep checking the CM/CP. This past month I never got a +OPK but (unless I didn't O at all, which can happen) I am darn near sure I O'd on Monday/Tuesday based solely on my CP/CM.

LOL about O'ing yesterday 3PNB! I was just asking b/c I didn't recall seeing you had your attempt, but YAY for a 2WW'er! FX for you!

[begonia]

Oh and back to me TTC June now, ANOTHER bad reason is I have a girls night out ... BUT I should O on 6/11! I'll be home in time to DTD but will definitely be drinking a bit (prob 2 glasses of red wine) on 6/10. What's the impact I wonder of alcohol on the boy sway? We're going to a steakhouse for dinner so I should be fine food-wise, but there is no way I can skip drinking w/o all of them thinking I'm pg already!

Aaargh. Maybe I should just skip it. I think I'll just have to wait and see how I feel ...

[TTC5]

Hope.ful I second all the others .. I plan to do 0-2 and O for sure. And HELLO?!? crazy, DH said sure we can try in June. I am shocked! I mean, I've been doing the diet/supps (loosely some months for sure, and more focused on increasing protein/nutrients than anything else) since October 2010, so I guess I'm as ready as I'll ever be! I didn't even have to break out the lacy panties to get him on board ;-)

Princess hope the attempt goes well today!!! Jen, how many DPO are you?

Woo Hoo I try in June too =D

[TTC5]

Oh and back to me TTC June now, ANOTHER bad reason is 6/10 I have a girls night out ... DH and 5 of my friends DH's got us all restaurant reservations and a hotel room for the night ... BUT I should O on 6/11! I'll be home in time to DTD but will definitely be drinking a bit (prob 2 glasses of red wine) on 6/10. What's the impact I wonder of alcohol on the boy sway? We're going to a steakhouse for dinner so I should be fine food-wise, but there is no way I can skip drinking w/o all of them thinking I'm pg already!

Aaargh. Maybe I should just skip it. I think I'll just have to wait and see how I feel ...

I know I am not having any alcohol or DH as most of my girls were conceived with it, lol ;)

[TTC5]

begonia - I o'd yesterday lol

hope.ful - When I conceived last Aug I o'd cd13 where for months I had o'd cd 15, things can shift when your supps kick in. In-vitro opk's are fine, just means you can't pee right on em lol Are you making sure you hold it at least two hrs before taking the opk? Are you checking your cp? You can usually tell when O is approaching and when you have O'd based. It's not cut and dry but with some practice you can get a pretty good idea. GL!!

Wooooo sending you lots of sticky dust!!!!! xox

[TTC5]

I am so confused! I should have O'd on CD 14 (accordig to 8 months of previous temp charting) but I didn't, although(includig Muciex) we DTD. Now it's CD 16 and my CM is still clear and stretchy but I'm not getting an OPK + (I drink a lot of water). With DD2 we BD'd 12 hours after the first OPK+. Do you think it matters if I got the box of OPK's that says it's for in vitro? I have done the diet and supps for 6 weeks (including one glass of green tea every day or every other day, and Mucinex beginning at CD 9) and I have a little bit of blood in my CM. (sorry, TMI) Any thoughts? I'm thinking about BDing again tonight, just in case. I really want to do whatever will give us the best chance of getting a boy, and I'm afraid if we don't DTD again, we'll be in the girl zone. And I don't want to wait too long that my CM shifts. This is stressing me out! I love this group of ladies! You all are so great!

If your CM is ew still I would go again!

[TTC5]

AFM - Well had ANOTHER dream last night that I was 13 weeks 6 days and meant to be only 12 weeks lol and tech told us she was sure it was a boy... woke up and just wanted to go back to sleep!!!! LOL This makes me worry though how will I be *if* it is another girl......

[3Pink1Blue]

begonia- we sort of decided at the last minute to do it lol here's the gist of it

O-2 and O day, I've been eating paleo the last few weeks which is high protein, high fat, tons of veg and a bit of fruit, no grains but tons of calories and snacking. No potatoes but lots of avacados, beets & bananas. I've been doing pilates with weights, lot's of tea, tons of ewcm and bsf. I have no tests and won't be poas for 2 wks. so I don't obsess about any faint lines or evaps.

[begonia]

OK so I think I'm going to try taking the L'arg and see if I can delay my O this month :-) It would be great if I could push it back a week or so ... or even if it moved up! I'm just going to see if I can mess with my cycle this month, basically :rofl: Swaying cracks me up sometimes!

[TTC5]

begonia- we sort of decided at the last minute to do it lol here's the gist of it

O-2 and O day, I've been eating paleo the last few weeks which is high protein, high fat, tons of veg and a bit of fruit, no grains but tons of calories and snacking. No potatoes but lots of avacados, beets & bananas. I've been doing pilates with weights, lot's of tea, tons of ewcm and bsf. I have no tests and won't be poas for 2 wks. so I don't obsess about any faint lines or evaps.

I bet you get your boy!!

[TTC5]

OK so I think I'm going to try taking the L'arg and see if I can delay my O this month :-) It would be great if I could push it back a week or so ... or even if it moved up! I'm just going to see if I can mess with my cycle this month, basically :rofl: Swaying cracks me up sometimes!

LOL!!!!! Good luck with it!! xx

[TTC5]

Ok have updated my "plan"
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?2175-TT5-Sway-in-June-2011

[iluvmyman]

Here is the thing....you definitely want to take opks to track your ovulation....do NOT just go by the days CD13 and 14, assuming you will O then! Honestly, if I were you guys, I would take the opks and when they look almost positive, go for it. Or, if you have been charting and tracking and your O is pretty consistent *even* with the supps and diet thrown in the mix, then dtd around cd11 or 12. Then, when your opk turns definitely positive, just dtd about 12-18 hours after that. You will be in the zone then. And yes, you want to do the full nine yards each time, with Dh having some caffeine and you doing ew and whatever else you choose. I would for sure have you and DH take a mucus-thinner, like Mucinex or Robitussin, about an hour before your attempts also.

Like Princess said, she conceived her boy dtd 2 days in a row....and Atomic said she's conceived her boys with frequent bding also, in about every pattern possible.....just goes to show how little timing and abstinence has to do with it. Don't stress about it too much....even if you end up dtd 24 hours apart because your first attempt was say, on CD12, and then your opk suddenly turns + later that day, just go for it and don't worry about it. I know we all want to give this our best shot, but do remember that even if you just loosely eat the diet, take a few supps, and use preseed or ew, you are way upping your odds of your dice turning up blue! Believe me, I want a son more than anything, but the reality is that even if I try to make everything just perfect and do every little swaying thing there is, I still may end up with a girl, or may end up never getting pregnant at all. That little personal rant being said, I say don't worry about the timing and frequency as much. Your DH is still going to make millions of sperm after 24 hours, and if your body is primed to be more boy-friendly from diet and supps, then you are in good shape!

Thanks Lola! I started my OPK's today (CD11) and plan to DTD tomorrow night (CD12) then will as soon as we get the + opk we'll dtd the 12-18hrs as you suggested and that sounds perfect. O s/b on CD14 but will check and I bought a new fertile focus.
We did the Mucinex (both of us) last time, will do BSF this time instead of BSD and EW, caffeine, etc. I think Atomic said the BSF/EW's were safe together, right?
I'm much more chill this time since I've had some experience. And I just ultimately couldn't go as hard core after I took the breakish during the 2ww. I got kinda bummed a little too w/ the BFN..I don't know. Just need to get some eggs. Having trouble finding any with 9 PH.
Thanks so much Lola, I love you attitude and knowledge. I think it's a good way to go

[iluvmyman]

ILUV I have a PH of 5 normally and tested after 2 weeks of diet and supplements but no BS drinks or ACV or anything and it was still 5 at 'o'......so i am trying the ural and alkaseltzer gold and will test this month at 'O' just to see if i need to do more the following month when I TTC for the first time - I am soo nervous :)

I think you take URAL or the Alkaseltzer Gold , not both.

[iluvmyman]

Begonia, I am going to start the opks and tracking again probably next month. I do the same thing and skip our "skip" months because those suckers are indeed expensive!

And who was talking about performance anxiety? I think Spicy....well, you just gotta spice it up to make it less "I'm ovulating, let's go!" which it does get to be for us since we've been ttc so long! My magic trick is lacy panties, although they don't look as hot as they used to!

Can you get them from http://www.early-pregnancy-tests.com/conception-combo-packs.html They are very inexpensive. Although I do have smiley face pack just in case.

LOL! My DH's a butt guy, so I just got to shake that thang!

[iluvmyman]

Iluvmyman....so about our debate! LOL....we are going to end up doing it CD 12 and 14...just the way it is going to work out with DHs work schedule etc. Fingers crossed for BFPs for us this month!

LOL! I am planning on DTD technically tonight since it's after mid-night but we'll do it tomorrow which is CD12 for me that just wait for a + opk and DTD 12hours or so after that, depending on how it works out no matter how many days of abstinence before the 2nd attempt. I'm feeling pretty good about doing it this way this month. I've chilled out a lot since the last time. It was so freakin emotional the first attempt so I'm much better now. :)

[TTC5]

LOL! I am planning on DTD technically tonight since it's after mid-night but we'll do it tomorrow which is CD12 for me that just wait for a + opk and DTD 12hours or so after that, depending on how it works out no matter how many days of abstinence before the 2nd attempt. I'm feeling pretty good about doing it this way this month. I've chilled out a lot since the last time. It was so freakin emotional the first attempt so I'm much better now. :)

Good Luck tonight!!!!

[TTC5]

Morning ladies!!

Tested DH pH last night and it was 8.6... he will be upping urals this week so FX it bounces it up just a tad higher!

[begonia]

TTC5 that is a great pH for him, I think!

[begonia]

iluv how did the attempt go?!? so excited for you and princess to join 3PNB in the 2ww!

[princessap]

Our attempt is tonight. hoping all goes well. We dtd saturday night too so o-2 and then again tonight. not a lot of ewcm so using preseed and just hoping for a bfp. Saw my bff's 4 month old little girl last night and couldnt get enough of her. Could see myself with another girl. After the loss I really want a baby!
FX for everyone!

[begonia]

Our attempt is tonight. hoping all goes well. We dtd saturday night too so o-2 and then again tonight. not a lot of ewcm so using preseed and just hoping for a bfp. Saw my bff's 4 month old little girl last night and couldnt get enough of her. Could see myself with another girl. After the loss I really want a baby!
FX for everyone!

Princess I was holding a 3 month old little girl this weekend and thinking the same thing ... I don't think I'll have gender disappointment I just think I'll always have that unfulfilled dream of having a son, and I can live with that. I'd regret not having another baby but I won't regret having another girl. FX for you!

[3Pink1Blue]

Can you get them from http://www.early-pregnancy-tests.com/conception-combo-packs.html They are very inexpensive.

I used to buy these but quit due to horrible evaps on their pregnancy tests, I posted some and everyone thought they were positive, nice and thick and the color of the control. The opk's are great but I won't buy the hpt anymore. Anyway fx for your attempt.

Princess- fx for you, and I hear ya. I want that bfp so bad right now.

[babydes56]

Good luck for tonight Princess! Good luck to you too Jen, hope this is your month. Guess what, i'm only on CD16 & just had some ewcm.. so excited because i never ovulate this early nor am i guaranteed to ovulate each month! EWCM was quite thick 2 days ago so i decided to take more robittusin & it seems it's working because today it's much thinner. I also just tested with opk & it's negative today so i'll keep testing, i'm sure i'll get a postitive soon. I have to run out & get some cheap opks because i have to save the digi ones for use when i want to confirm for sure that cheap opk is accurate. Wish me luck!

[babydes56]

Ladies you've recently made your attempts, how many days of bsf have you done leading to ovulation? I havent started yet so i should really start now shouldnt i? Been doing bsd/cot from AF. I ordered pressed on Sat, it hasnt arrived, hope i get it before my attempt

[iluvmyman]

Hi ladies, hope you all well! Seems there's more women trying for girls than boys, we've done well then havent we? I feel under a lot of pressure to have a boy since 2 of my friends have had their DG confirmed in the last 2wks. I also feel i shouldnt have told anyone that i was trying for another child because i'm so sick of being asked if i'm preg yet, aaargh!

Yeah, like it's not pressure enough just doing this in general.

[iluvmyman]

Oh I feel ya. Every one of my friends knows we want one more baby and they are CONSTANTLY waiting to see me quit drinking wine on the girls night out! I swear once I am there will be no way to hide it among these super sleuths I surround myself with ;-)

I really hope my friends have enough respect for me to not ask this time. My DH doesn't want to tell again for 12 weeks when we get a BFP and I'm cool w/ that but in the same way, I don't want to have to hide it again. Good thing I already have a big ol muffin top so I can hide it much longer this time. I want to be really proud this time and just shout it from the roof tops. I will for sure let my "friends" know that if I hear one word out of concern or otherwise for me having a baby again, it will seriously affect our relationship. I'm not letting them rule me this time. Sorry, in a mood. In fact, in a hormonal mood for 3 stinkin weeks and I hate it! I hope the extra hormones mean good things for my cycle cuz I feel hormonally prego or eternally PMS'y.

[iluvmyman]

Iluvmyman....so about our debate! LOL....we are going to end up doing it CD 12 and 14...just the way it is going to work out with DHs work schedule etc. Fingers crossed for BFPs for us this month!

Jen, that is awesome...maybe your body is trying to tell you something! Good luck, when is attempt?

Our 1st attempt was last night on CD12 so I'll wait for my +OPK and try to BD the 12-18hr mark after 1st + opk. FX princessap!

[iluvmyman]

I think you can have like 250-400mg a day of calcium and still be OK. Don't quote me on that and I'm too lazy to look it up.

[iluvmyman]

It is amazing what a mere 5lbs can do! Why can't it go to my chest?!?! LOL! That would make the seduction next month soooo much easier ;-)

AMEN! That would be a great b-day present.

[iluvmyman]

Good luck! And no worries about the cheese....I don't think calcium or dairy hurts your blue sway at all, quite the opposite now, actually.

I sure hope so cuz I've been a very very naughty girl w/ my carmel frapps. At least I went w/ a Grande instead on last night's attempt

[iluvmyman]

We did O-2 and O this month too. I'm all for dtd till the cm turns but I'm 75% just wanting a bfp.

I've done a 180 and kinda feel this way too after the 1st BFN. Weird but I'd really like a BFP and am just praying about it and doing my best w/ the sway. Thinking of a girl name I like I think has helped mellow me out a little too. We'll see when the butter meets the bread though.

[iluvmyman]

Hope.ful I second all the others .. I plan to do 0-2 and O for sure. And HELLO?!? crazy, DH said sure we can try in June. I am shocked! I mean, I've been doing the diet/supps (loosely some months for sure, and more focused on increasing protein/nutrients than anything else) since October 2010, so I guess I'm as ready as I'll ever be! I didn't even have to break out the lacy panties to get him on board ;-)

Princess hope the attempt goes well today!!! Jen, how many DPO are you?

OMGoodness B!!! That's awesome. I'd break out the lace panties as a reward for your DH. Maybe he'll remember how much you "appreciate" that in case you want to go for 1 more after this BFP in June. :)

[iluvmyman]

begonia- we sort of decided at the last minute to do it lol here's the gist of it

O-2 and O day, I've been eating paleo the last few weeks which is high protein, high fat, tons of veg and a bit of fruit, no grains but tons of calories and snacking. No potatoes but lots of avacados, beets & bananas. I've been doing pilates with weights, lot's of tea, tons of ewcm and bsf. I have no tests and won't be poas for 2 wks. so I don't obsess about any faint lines or evaps.

You are making me feel guilty as heck 3PNB! LOL!

[TTC5]

TTC5 that is a great pH for him, I think!

Thanks!!

[TTC5]

Our attempt is tonight. hoping all goes well. We dtd saturday night too so o-2 and then again tonight. not a lot of ewcm so using preseed and just hoping for a bfp. Saw my bff's 4 month old little girl last night and couldnt get enough of her. Could see myself with another girl. After the loss I really want a baby!
FX for everyone!

FX fo0r you!!!! xx

[iluvmyman]

iluv how did the attempt go?!? so excited for you and princess to join 3PNB in the 2ww!

It went well, much better than the 1st time. I did BSF instead of BSD this time since no CM. I really have no CM, though, so I hope that changes in the next 2 days. The Mucinex doesn't seem to help at all anymore and before would only help for an hour or 2. AF-O taking 1200mg 2-3 times/day. I wonder if I should stop doing some of the supps, my CM was never a problem before but seem really low the last couple of months. My DH took the Mucinex 1 hr before but hates it since it makes him cough. :) I don't seem to have a problem my smoking little man! I wish he would do the URAL and make his PH top notch. Everyone on IG when the posted their sway seem to have had DH's PH up to a 9 and conceived boy. Can't check of coarse now since he are abstaining but I wish both of ours is higher. I'll see what mine is closer to O though.

Plan to DTD tomorrow night or so (the 12-18hrs after 1st +opk). Don't have any line at all on OPK yet (CD13) We have counseling on Tuesday (Supposed O day) to discuss a pending family matter w/ SIL we can't seem to agree on but I told him it couldn't get ugly enough that we won't DTD that night. I'm a little nervous though cuz it hits a sore spot of him thinking I don't respect him (I do, but he is wrong in this situation -I could PM you if you are dying to know) It could go horribly wrong and he is kinda crabby this week and we aren't connecting that great on & off. Oh well, I can only control what I can. I think it will be fine.

Not sure what to do about the CM though, I've never tracked it before, but I remember having quiet a bit. Funny I used to think there was something kinda gross and wrong about my body. I had no idea what a blessing it was. TMI but whatcha gonna do. :)

[iluvmyman]

Our attempt is tonight. hoping all goes well. We dtd saturday night too so o-2 and then again tonight. not a lot of ewcm so using preseed and just hoping for a bfp. Saw my bff's 4 month old little girl last night and couldnt get enough of her. Could see myself with another girl. After the loss I really want a baby!
FX for everyone!

OMGoodness we are so alike P! I really go back and forth but right now, today, at this minute I just want a BFP. My perspective keeps changing so I am really just trying to pray about it. I do pray for a boy still and secretly pray for boy and girl twins. :) No real family history, but since I'm asking. :)

[iluvmyman]

Princess I was holding a 3 month old little girl this weekend and thinking the same thing ... I don't think I'll have gender disappointment I just think I'll always have that unfulfilled dream of having a son, and I can live with that. I'd regret not having another baby but I won't regret having another girl. FX for you!

Amen! I totally agree with you. I will be disappointed for sure but not severe. I think it will be another part of mourning for my son we lost but I swear I just want to hold and nurse and infant again and have it live, no matter what the sex. After the 1st attempt was out of the way and got a BFN, I feel much more at peace with just wanting a healthy BFP. Plz God!

[iluvmyman]

I used to buy these but quit due to horrible evaps on their pregnancy tests, I posted some and everyone thought they were positive, nice and thick and the color of the control. The opk's are great but I won't buy the hpt anymore. Anyway fx for your attempt.

Princess- fx for you, and I hear ya. I want that bfp so bad right now.

Interesting to know and thank for that. If I get a BFP, I'll most likely go down and get a really expensive one the verify knowing me either way. I will keep that in mind, thanks.

[iluvmyman]

Good luck for tonight Princess! Good luck to you too Jen, hope this is your month. Guess what, i'm only on CD16 & just had some ewcm.. so excited because i never ovulate this early nor am i guaranteed to ovulate each month! EWCM was quite thick 2 days ago so i decided to take more robittusin & it seems it's working because today it's much thinner. I also just tested with opk & it's negative today so i'll keep testing, i'm sure i'll get a postitive soon. I have to run out & get some cheap opks because i have to save the digi ones for use when i want to confirm for sure that cheap opk is accurate. Wish me luck!

What Robitussin is everyone taking and how often. I think I might want to try that instead of mucinex but mucinex comes in pill form and Robitussin tastes gross. Why do people take Robitussin instead of Mucinex?

[begonia]

OH MAN!

I just had a whole long reply typed out and DD2 deleted it. Boo. I wonder if the IG monkeys told her to do it ...

OK so basically, Iluv, I was saying that I really hope the counseling goes well and I'm sorry you guys have something not fun like that in the midst of TTC, because let's face it TTC is stressful enough sometimes! FX you walk out of there with a peace about it ... but I love that you're like, no matter what, we're gettin' busy that night :bigsmile: A woman on a mission! I like it!

Babydes I am thrilled for you and your friend EWCM :happy: C'mon +OPK!

I got B6 today and started taking it hoping it will stop the pre-AF spotting I've been having. That worries me :worry:

[begonia]

What Robitussin is everyone taking and how often. I think I might want to try that instead of mucinex but mucinex comes in pill form and Robitussin tastes gross. Why do people take Robitussin instead of Mucinex?

I want this answer too! I could have written the exact same Q!

[iluvmyman]

Ladies you've recently made your attempts, how many days of bsf have you done leading to ovulation? I havent started yet so i should really start now shouldnt i? Been doing bsd/cot from AF. I ordered pressed on Sat, it hasnt arrived, hope i get it before my attempt

I always thought it was 1 hr before attempt (which is what I did) but I've read people doing it like crazy days before and several times on attempt day. I know you can OD on BS so I'm not sure.

[iluvmyman]

babydes, If u don't get the pre-seed in time use the EW

[princessap]

not sure how much I messed up my sway this weekend. we dtd at o-2 after I had a few rum and cokes. I hadnt drank alcohol for so long and then of course the night we try I had two drinks!! How much does it matter? should I still attempt tonight? I am having o pains today.

[iluvmyman]

OH MAN!

I just had a whole long reply typed out and DD2 deleted it. Boo. I wonder if the IG monkeys told her to do it ...

OK so basically, Iluv, I was saying that I really hope the counseling goes well and I'm sorry you guys have something not fun like that in the midst of TTC, because let's face it TTC is stressful enough sometimes! FX you walk out of there with a peace about it ... but I love that you're like, no matter what, we're gettin' busy that night :bigsmile: A woman on a mission! I like it!

Babydes I am thrilled for you and your friend EWCM :happy: C'mon +OPK!

I got B6 today and started taking it hoping it will stop the pre-AF spotting I've been having. That worries me :worry:

I've deleted some long posts too. LOL! It's been a pending issue for a few months but he's recently said I have to cut off all contact w/ her and my nieces and nephews. He's not a complete jerk just acting like one on this. We have a great relationship but on big issues sometimes, when we can't come to a comprimise we need a little help working through them. I know it will ultimately come down to and even bigger issue which is a respect issue so that is what might get ugly since it's a deep issue. Too bad though, we can still do "it" mad, yo! I crack myself up! :)

Need to figure out my CM though still. Not sure what to do or not to do. I guess we'll see how it goes doing what I've been doing but will try the Robitussin if I need to.

Why does the spotting worry you?

[TTC5]

not sure how much I messed up my sway this weekend. we dtd at o-2 after I had a few rum and cokes. I hadnt drank alcohol for so long and then of course the night we try I had two drinks!! How much does it matter? should I still attempt tonight? I am having o pains today.

How is your cm?

[iluvmyman]

not sure how much I messed up my sway this weekend. we dtd at o-2 after I had a few rum and cokes. I hadnt drank alcohol for so long and then of course the night we try I had two drinks!! How much does it matter? should I still attempt tonight? I am having o pains today.

Nice on the rum and coke. LOL! When I want to drink (I don't often cuz I don't like alcohol) I like a Long Island Iced Tea. Doesn't taste bad and does the job! Are you worried about it for boy sway of getting prego at all? I can't imagine it could hurt that much but I really don't know. I shouldn't respond then, huh! :)

[babydes56]

babydes, If u don't get the pre-seed in time use the EW

I tried EW & that was really messy, i also cant use instead cups so i hope i get the preseed in time

[TTC5]

Where did you order your preseed from baby?

[babydes56]

not sure how much I messed up my sway this weekend. we dtd at o-2 after I had a few rum and cokes. I hadnt drank alcohol for so long and then of course the night we try I had two drinks!! How much does it matter? should I still attempt tonight? I am having o pains today.

I dont think 2 drinks are going to affect your sway so dont worry.

[babydes56]

Where did you order your preseed from baby?

From Amazon

[iluvmyman]

I tried EW & that was really messy, i also cant use instead cups so i hope i get the preseed in time

Yeah, it's messy. Not too bad though after I figured out that medicine dropper thing. A towel underneath helps. Hopefully it gets there but you can use EW's in a pinch.

[TTC5]

I can't believe May is almost over, my gosh the year is flying by!!!

How are the tww ladies doing?

Lola, how are you my love?

[iluvmyman]

I want this answer too! I could have written the exact same Q!

Here's Atomic's link about it and it doesn't appear to make a difference but I'd love to hear peeps opinions on it.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1112-USING-ROBITUSSIN-TO-TTC-A-BOY

[babydes56]

It went well, much better than the 1st time. I did BSF instead of BSD this time since no CM. I really have no CM, though, so I hope that changes in the next 2 days. The Mucinex doesn't seem to help at all anymore and before would only help for an hour or 2. AF-O taking 1200mg 2-3 times/day. I wonder if I should stop doing some of the supps, my CM was never a problem before but seem really low the last couple of months. My DH took the Mucinex 1 hr before but hates it since it makes him cough. :) I don't seem to have a problem my smoking little man! I wish he would do the URAL and make his PH top notch. Everyone on IG when the posted their sway seem to have had DH's PH up to a 9 and conceived boy. Can't check of coarse now since he are abstaining but I wish both of ours is higher. I'll see what mine is closer to O though.

Plan to DTD tomorrow night or so (the 12-18hrs after 1st +opk). Don't have any line at all on OPK yet (CD13) We have counseling on Tuesday (Supposed O day) to discuss a pending family matter w/ SIL we can't seem to agree on but I told him it couldn't get ugly enough that we won't DTD that night. I'm a little nervous though cuz it hits a sore spot of him thinking I don't respect him (I do, but he is wrong in this situation -I could PM you if you are dying to know) It could go horribly wrong and he is kinda crabby this week and we aren't connecting that great on & off. Oh well, I can only control what I can. I think it will be fine.

Not sure what to do about the CM though, I've never tracked it before, but I remember having quiet a bit. Funny I used to think there was something kinda gross and wrong about my body. I had no idea what a blessing it was. TMI but whatcha gonna do. :)

My cm isnt much & it comes & goes throughout the day but i suppose it might increase closer to ovulation time. Are you going to try preseed or ew for your attempt? I also think that the mucinex/robitussin only thin out cm that's already there, i dont think they increase cm. I read somewhere that okra was really good for cm, i read that you eat 2/day without the seeds from AF-O, i havent tried it myself but might give a go if i have yet another failed attempt

[Tink18]

HI everyone, I was just linked to you, I am attempting my sway in Sept-Oct, but I am also new! So Looking to learn and meet some other buddies! I have read lots of Atomics's Sticky's and great advice the past few days. I have been addicted to this site. I was also on IG for a bit as I thought I would be TTC in Jan! Anyhow. That's that...Just wanted to say Hi over here! I'm dizzy from all the info!

[TTC5]

Welcome tink!!!!!!! xx

[iluvmyman]

HI everyone, I was just linked to you, I am attempting my sway in Sept-Oct, but I am also new! So Looking to learn and meet some other buddies! I have read lots of Atomics's Sticky's and great advice the past few days. I have been addicted to this site. I was also on IG for a bit as I thought I would be TTC in Jan! Anyhow. That's that...Just wanted to say Hi over here! I'm dizzy from all the info!

I just finished a reply to you on your original post. Glad to see you.

[iluvmyman]

My cm isnt much & it comes & goes throughout the day but i suppose it might increase closer to ovulation time. Are you going to try preseed or ew for your attempt? I also think that the mucinex/robitussin only thin out cm that's already there, i dont think they increase cm. I read somewhere that okra was really good for cm, i read that you eat 2/day without the seeds from AF-O, i havent tried it myself but might give a go if i have yet another failed attempt

That would be good news about the Okra if it wasn't totally gross! :)

I did the EW's since it has a higher PH and I've read, but don't think it's true, people insisting that preseed caused their m/c. Atomic recommends the preseed I believe and EW's are sort of old school. I've debated about it but for now gonna stick w/ EW's. I used EW's again for our attempt last night.

I just have to hope it picks up tomorrow. that s/b my 1st + opk this cycle and I best see some CM! :) Sounds like Robitussing and Mucinex both use the Guaffessian or whatever the heck it is so it shouldn't make a difference.

[begonia]

Iluv I think it's super that you guys go seek outside help for big issues like that! I think that has to make it easier to have a mediator. Re:the spotting it only worries me b/c it can be a sign of low progesterone, and that can make it hard to a) get pregnant and b) keep the baby if you do get pg. I never had spotting before this whole boy swaying thing. :hair:

Hi Tink! Welcome!

Babydes I love Okra! I wonder if that is true ... but even if it is I suppose my fried okra isn't what they are talking about :wink:

TTC5 for real, I can't believe we are nearly half-way thru 2011! Lola mentioned a beach vacay so perhaps she's off on that? Or working hard in preparation for time off?

Princess I don't think a bit of drinking will keep you from getting pg or ruin the work you did to sway. We can only do so much, KWIM? Good luck on your O day attempt!

[princessap]

thanks girls. I love how relaxed GD is compared to IG where I stressed about every little thing. Moon sign is male, full moon and chinese calendar all say boy. so fx for a
bfp!

[begonia]

ITA Princess! I like the feel here. So supportive!

That's awesome that all your signs are lined up for boy! Give you a little boost of confidence, doesn't it?!?

I started a prenatal today. Part of that is b/c I never took them before getting pregnant with my girls so I figure it is something different for me. Plus the ones I bought are delicious :-) And have no calcium! Crazy! I'm doing some full fat dairy so I'm not scared of calcium, but from what I remember reading no IG it was super hard to find no Ca prenatals.

FX for all our gals in the 2WW!

[cemas]

Hi All,

This is cemas from Ig...so this is where everybody is...lol i have been looking :)
good luck to the 2wws. And good luck to the rest of us butt lickers(ttc boy!)
Just wanted to say a hiiii

[babydes56]

Ok, i'm in a dilemma so need some advice. I havent yet got a + opk but ewcm still there, today is day 3 abstinance for DH & i was hoping to have a + opk tomorrow & that would have been perfect for spermies but now i'm not sure when i'll get a +opk so the question is, should i dtd tomorrow & then again when i get +opk which could be any day or should i get DH to release & hope that when i get +opk he'd have had a few days to load up. Confussed & this happens all the time

[ELP]

babyD I'd wait til tomorrow and dtd regardless of + or not, that would be a perfect 4 day for DH:agree:

[LolaInLove]

HEY everyone! I have unfortunately not been on vaca, rather just insanely busy with work and DH is out of town, making things extra fun. AND my 12 year old dog just had surgery and has cancer, so been taking care of lots of little people and 4-legged people also. I think AF is coming soon, I feel crappy, haven't had pms for a while now.

SO excited for all of the attempts! I just read through 10 pages or so you chatty chicas, so do have a couple of comments:

2ww- I would not take anything but the prenatals during this time, just to be safe, but this is my opinion. It's totally fine to have a break between attempts anyway. Lots of ladies vary, though...definitely no bsd or hormonal supps, I think it is fine to keep doing green tea and diet and all, of course, but I stop with the supps just to be on the safe side.

Ew and bsf.....I remember the guru on IG telling me in all caps to NOT mix bs and ew, that it does something funny to the mixture and makes the sperms heads explode. I was like WHAAAA???? But, you can mix preseed and bs for sure. Now, you guys remember me telling you all that I did ew for 5 months and bfns....BUT what makes me wary is that I also did a bsf, so in essence, I was mixing the two. I think it is very bad advice to do ew and bsf, because you ARE mixing it! I think I was killing all of DH's sperm. Then, the two months we get pg, like bam and bam, it was with preseed and bsf. So, just beware. I think that if you do ew, the ph is so high that you don't need to do a bsf. I would do one or the other. Just beware!

Mucinex vs. Robitussin- I personally take the mucinex tabs, because I hate drinking icky cough syrup, and I just take the tab about an hour before attempt. I wouldn't think there is much of a difference, because they both contain 400mg guifanesin. But, liquid will of course absorb a bit faster, which is why I give the tabs an hour to take effect.

And thanks for the compliments, Iluv....it's crazy how much I know about this since I've been doing it so long now. Sheeshhhh.

Babydes, glad to hear you are having some ew! Yay! I bet you are droppin' some eggs, girl!

Oh, and who had the bloody cm? That is ok, when you release and egg, sometimes a little blood can come out, it just means that you probably ovulated. I recall reading that in TCOYF or something. Maybe google it.....

Anyway, hope you girls are doing ok. I am focusing on life and losing this weight right now. I want to drop the 25 lbs in the next 5 weeks, then I'll get back on the diet in a nice moderate fashion for about 6 weeks. I just got out my summer clothes and NOTHING from last summer fits, not one pair of my bottoms at all. So depressing. I hope someone gets a bfp really soon....sending positive baby vibes out to all of the attempts and 2wwers right now!!!

[LolaInLove]

babyD I'd wait til tomorrow and dtd regardless of + or not, that would be a perfect 4 day for DH:agree:

I agree, do it now with all the ewcm, then do it again about 12-18 hours after your +opk shows up. If you are not close with the fade-ins, you'll probably have a + with a nice 2-3 day abstinence in between. Can't remember if you are trying the one shot deal or not.....

[hope.ful]

We are a May TTC-er and my cycle is so messed up. I am on CD 21 and I'm just now getting close to a + but regarding the OPK line, one side of the line is as dark or darker than the control, but the other side is lighter. Would you consider that a + or -? I know it's got to be close but don't want to jump the gun! We hope the often BDing will do the trick, along with the supps, diet, preseed, and deep penetration. The timing think just didn't work out this month! We're so fertile, I'm pretty confident we'll get a BFP this month, otherwise I'd just scrap it and try to just hit O day next month! Thanks for the help!!
Stacy

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi All, Hope you are all doing well ..I've been away for a few days..I am really not feeling well. After all the hard work I done since my m/c in March, I can't even O anymore so I can't make an attempt. I'm on CD 36 and no sign of O. And after everything I've been through since I started swaying we decided no more ttc for us. I don't know If I will try again, but for right now I am just sad for everything I did, it went for nothing. I got so fat from the diet I spent a lot of money for nothing. I can't keep doing this anymore :(

[My Fabulous Children]

I can't believe May is almost over, my gosh the year is flying by!!!

How are the tww ladies doing?

Lola, how are you my love?

I can't believe April is over and May is almost over and I can't make just one attempt. CRAZY.

[LolaInLove]

We are a May TTC-er and my cycle is so messed up. I am on CD 21 and I'm just now getting close to a + but regarding the OPK line, one side of the line is as dark or darker than the control, but the other side is lighter. Would you consider that a + or -? I know it's got to be close but don't want to jump the gun! We hope the often BDing will do the trick, along with the supps, diet, preseed, and deep penetration. The timing think just didn't work out this month! We're so fertile, I'm pretty confident we'll get a BFP this month, otherwise I'd just scrap it and try to just hit O day next month! Thanks for the help!!
Stacy

I would consider it ALMOST positive....give it another day or two....I always get a day of them looking like that, but then they are truly darker, no question about it, in a day or two!

[My Fabulous Children]

begonia- we sort of decided at the last minute to do it lol here's the gist of it

O-2 and O day, I've been eating paleo the last few weeks which is high protein, high fat, tons of veg and a bit of fruit, no grains but tons of calories and snacking. No potatoes but lots of avacados, beets & bananas. I've been doing pilates with weights, lot's of tea, tons of ewcm and bsf. I have no tests and won't be poas for 2 wks. so I don't obsess about any faint lines or evaps.

Good luck, FX!

[LolaInLove]

Hi All, Hope you are all doing well ..I've been away for a few days..I am really not feeling well. After all the hard work I done since my m/c in March, I can't even O anymore so I can't make an attempt. I'm on CD 36 and no sign of O. And after everything I've been through since I started swaying we decided no more ttc for us. I don't know If I will try again, but for right now I am just sad for everything I did, it went for nothing. I got so fat from the diet I spent a lot of money for nothing. I can't keep doing this anymore :(

Hey lady.....I am so sorry your body is not cooperating....I know how frustrating it is, especially after a m/c. I am feeling rather whatever about ttc again myself. I think we are going to try for 3 months, then give up after that. If you are at wit's end, I think you are making the right decision to let go of it (even if for now, for this year, whatever it may be), and put your focus into something else. I know it's been a while for us, and it does really wear you down to ttc, and to add swaying in there, it really consumes your life. I hope you are doing ok.....pm me if you want....I totally get how you feel. xoxo

[lightofmylife]

lola ....... i was thinking of doing bsf week of O and after every 3 hours on day of O and before attempt , then using EW while dtd ??? i think that was all ladies done in successful boy sways and got prag also ??? dont they two would mix there ??OR i shud do bsf and pressed ??

[My Fabulous Children]

OK so I think I'm going to try taking the L'arg and see if I can delay my O this month :-) It would be great if I could push it back a week or so ... or even if it moved up! I'm just going to see if I can mess with my cycle this month, basically :rofl: Swaying cracks me up sometimes!

It worked for me, I think?! I'm on CD 36 and no sign of O and I think maybe Larg did that for me, but really mess up my cycle very bad :(

[My Fabulous Children]

Yeah, it's messy. Not too bad though after I figured out that medicine dropper thing. A towel underneath helps. Hopefully it gets there but you can use EW's in a pinch.

EW's always messy for me. I used the medicine dropper too.

iluvmyman' I hope you get your BFP this time ..Good luck hun.

[My Fabulous Children]

HI everyone, I was just linked to you, I am attempting my sway in Sept-Oct, but I am also new! So Looking to learn and meet some other buddies! I have read lots of Atomics's Sticky's and great advice the past few days. I have been addicted to this site. I was also on IG for a bit as I thought I would be TTC in Jan! Anyhow. That's that...Just wanted to say Hi over here! I'm dizzy from all the info!

Welcome and good luck!

[My Fabulous Children]

Princess I don't think a bit of drinking will keep you from getting pg or ruin the work you did to sway. We can only do so much, KWIM? Good luck on your O day attempt!

I agree! Don't worry Princess I know some from the BC did that too and they got boys. FX for your bfp. GL.

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi All,

This is cemas from Ig...so this is where everybody is...lol i have been looking :)
good luck to the 2wws. And good luck to the rest of us butt lickers(ttc boy!)
Just wanted to say a hiiii

I remember you! Welcome .. Are you swaying?

[My Fabulous Children]

Ok, i'm in a dilemma so need some advice. I havent yet got a + opk but ewcm still there, today is day 3 abstinance for DH & i was hoping to have a + opk tomorrow & that would have been perfect for spermies but now i'm not sure when i'll get a +opk so the question is, should i dtd tomorrow & then again when i get +opk which could be any day or should i get DH to release & hope that when i get +opk he'd have had a few days to load up. Confussed & this happens all the time

I don't know when to O so I always have DH release every 3-4 days. SO wait til tomorrow and see.

[begonia]

Welcome Cemas! Glad to see you!

MFC I'm so sorry :-( I am kinda scared of the L'arg really screwing with things so I'm just going to take it 2-3 times a week.

Babydes I agree with others, DTD now, and then 12-24 hours after the OPK. If you've got some good EWCM I know Atomic says with a +opk or not, that's a good time to have an attempt.

Lola I'm sorry to hear about your dog! I thought at first you said 12 yo DD, and I was REALLY worried about you! Then my brain caught up. That said I adore my dog and know seeing her sick would be awful. Sounds like you have a whole lot on your plate right now lady. Good to see you though!

Hope.ful wait for that +! You'll feel so much better about your attempt I think. FX your fertility works for you this month! I know so many of us are used to one-shot-wonders and it seems swaying has definitely shaken that up a bit.

[My Fabulous Children]

BTW ladies- bloody CM during O its a good sign it means your ovulating good and strong.

Mucinex vs. Robitussin- I take both. I take the highest dose of Mucinex 1200mg Every 12 hours as it say's on the box. Also I take tussian that has Guaifenesin in it in a liquid form so it will absorb faster during the attempt day.

Lola' I am just like you nothing from last summer clothes can fits me anymore. I am trying to loss some weight right now, What are you doing to loss weight?

[cemas]

I remember you! Welcome .. Are you swaying?

Thanks Begonia and MFC....yeah still swaying.....The L-arg did that to me too. i had long cycles of 32 days to beging with and the l-arg made them even longer 40 + so i stopped it. it had the effect for a few months.
This month i am stopping all the supps that mess with hormones and see. The month i got a bfp( m/c) i had stopped all supps as my cycle was 50 +days on soy and somthing worked. So i am doing diet (not very strict though) and bsd etc still.
i did use EW's the month of bfp so yes i will continue with ew's. IG guru told me to do bsf 1 hr before dtd and ew during dtd.(i hr apart for the two).

[iluvmyman]

Ew and bsf.....I remember the guru on IG telling me in all caps to NOT mix bs and ew, that it does something funny to the mixture and makes the sperms heads explode. I was like WHAAAA???? But, you can mix preseed and bs for sure. Now, you guys remember me telling you all that I did ew for 5 months and bfns....BUT what makes me wary is that I also did a bsf, so in essence, I was mixing the two. I think it is very bad advice to do ew and bsf, because you ARE mixing it! I think I was killing all of DH's sperm. Then, the two months we get pg, like bam and bam, it was with preseed and bsf. So, just beware. I think that if you do ew, the ph is so high that you don't need to do a bsf. I would do one or the other. Just beware!

I scoured IG and I can't find them saying anything expect it's OK, including Tamara but maybe that changed since 2008 when it was posted. If it were the case you think they'd have it posted and be in their handbook that was updated in 2010. Augh! I need to decide since I got a +opk a little bit ago. Should attempt tonite then but annoyed my fertile focus didn't show any fernning this morning but opk +. I will check tonight w/ smiley face opk to be sure. I really don't want to take any chances so might just go w/ EW. It's not that I don't believe you Lola just wish I could find in and be sure. I want a BFP this time.

Sorry about the pms, that was another little bit of mourning but positive since it means you s/b ready to ttc again.

The clothes thing is hard. I definitly weigh more than I ever have right now - being prego, and all I have is tighter fitting tops. I hate to buy stuff at this weight and you were right about things to wear during 1st trimester, but I have no idea what to even buy to fit my new body type. I cant go back now and lose this weight till I get a BFP. I don't feel like I eat sooo much that I should have put on this weight but cleary I am.

[My Fabulous Children]

Hey lady.....I am so sorry your body is not cooperating....I know how frustrating it is, especially after a m/c. I am feeling rather whatever about ttc again myself. I think we are going to try for 3 months, then give up after that. If you are at wit's end, I think you are making the right decision to let go of it (even if for now, for this year, whatever it may be), and put your focus into something else. I know it's been a while for us, and it does really wear you down to ttc, and to add swaying in there, it really consumes your life. I hope you are doing ok.....pm me if you want....I totally get how you feel. xoxo

Thanks Lola. I'm trying to focus on losing weight.

[iluvmyman]

Hi All, Hope you are all doing well ..I've been away for a few days..I am really not feeling well. After all the hard work I done since my m/c in March, I can't even O anymore so I can't make an attempt. I'm on CD 36 and no sign of O. And after everything I've been through since I started swaying we decided no more ttc for us. I don't know If I will try again, but for right now I am just sad for everything I did, it went for nothing. I got so fat from the diet I spent a lot of money for nothing. I can't keep doing this anymore :(

I'm so sorry MFC!!

[gizmo77]

hey guys, ive been avoiding this thread bc its SOO long! where do i start? ;-) but i did peak in and saw that L-arg has been messing with ppls cycles. making cycles longer. im already a long cycler around 31-33days. should i even bother with the l-arg. i mean i dont have much more time to test. i want to start dieting and supplementing in july. and for those who did experience a messing of yoru cycle how long afteryou took l arg did you notice?

also any other T raising supplements for girls that are recommended? thx!

[gizmo77]

Hi All, Hope you are all doing well ..I've been away for a few days..I am really not feeling well. After all the hard work I done since my m/c in March, I can't even O anymore so I can't make an attempt. I'm on CD 36 and no sign of O. And after everything I've been through since I started swaying we decided no more ttc for us. I don't know If I will try again, but for right now I am just sad for everything I did, it went for nothing. I got so fat from the diet I spent a lot of money for nothing. I can't keep doing this anymore :(

im so sorry MFC! dont think of it as all for nothing bc youdid try and it did get you somewhere and you learned SOMETHING from it right??? i totally understand tho aboutspending the time money and effort..it IS a lot of work! good luck to whatever you decide. maybe you can just take abreak right now and focus on watching your existing kiss grow..thats what i keep telling myself too. im neglecting them! and i feel so guilty. but good luck whatever u decide!

[iluvmyman]

Thanks Begonia and MFC....yeah still swaying.....The L-arg did that to me too. i had long cycles of 32 days to beging with and the l-arg made them even longer 40 + so i stopped it. it had the effect for a few months.
This month i am stopping all the supps that mess with hormones and see. The month i got a bfp( m/c) i had stopped all supps as my cycle was 50 +days on soy and somthing worked. So i am doing diet (not very strict though) and bsd etc still.
i did use EW's the month of bfp so yes i will continue with ew's. IG guru told me to do bsf 1 hr before dtd and ew during dtd.(i hr apart for the two).

Which ones have hormones you are looking to stop. I don't think any of my supps do except maybe fertilecm

[iluvmyman]

Thanks Begonia and MFC....yeah still swaying.....The L-arg did that to me too. i had long cycles of 32 days to beging with and the l-arg made them even longer 40 + so i stopped it. it had the effect for a few months.
This month i am stopping all the supps that mess with hormones and see. The month i got a bfp( m/c) i had stopped all supps as my cycle was 50 +days on soy and somthing worked. So i am doing diet (not very strict though) and bsd etc still.
i did use EW's the month of bfp so yes i will continue with ew's. IG guru told me to do bsf 1 hr before dtd and ew during dtd.(i hr apart for the two).

That's what I did. BSF 1 hr. before attempt and EW's right before attempt. Was more like a 1 1/2 hrs really since it took me a little bit to hit the Big O before attempt.

[begonia]

Gizmo, I wouldn't touch L'Arg if you haven't got time to mess around ... the only reason I tried it was initially we were not going to TTC til October, so I figured I'd just see if it messed with me or not. Some people have no side effects except positive ones from it. I took it last cycle for all of 3 days before AF was due and AF was 2 days late, and I'm never late. Maybe it was coincidence but I'm blaming it anyway :-) The only way to know what it does for you is to try it, but like I said, if you don't have time to kill or if you have a super regular cycle as it is, I'd probably stay away from it. I was thinking I'd take it again b/c it would be more ideal for me to O a few days later this cycle, but I'm kind of afraid of it now so might just let my cycle be.

Anyhow, I do like EPO for me. It upped my CM for sure (though took about 3 cycles to see a real difference) and didn't change my cycle. Honestly now that we're TTC in June I think I am going to drop all the supps but folic acid, my prenatal, and EPO from AF-O. I'll do ASG AF-O too, mucinex 5 days prior and until O, and some BSF but I'm not going to do eggwhites.

I think gelatin is good for raising T! Loads of protein and amino acids. Disgusting though.

YAY for the +OPK iLuv!!! Hope counseling session is good today! Though stress can be good for TTC boy ;-)

Cemas are your cycles back to normal? I remember you taking the soy that month on IG and having the mega cycle. Do you know when your next attempt will be?

[iluvmyman]

OK, got a positive opk at 11 am but maybe the line wasn't darker and I can't tell now since it disappeared so it might be a fade in. Probably will wait till tonight do a smiley face and DTD tonight or in the morning?? I don't like the morning though cuz I don't get to sit w/ hips propped and have to start my day right away. I like the night where it's more leisure and no pressure.
Not sure what to do. waiting till tomorrow night might be too late. It would be really nice if this was more simple.

[cemas]

iluv i am stopping royal jelly, dhea, pycnogenol . Will just do FA, fish oil,zinc and potassium.

begonia, will be trying in june same as you....:)

[iluvmyman]

iluv i am stopping royal jelly, dhea, pycnogenol . Will just do FA, fish oil,zinc and potassium.

begonia, will be trying in june same as you....:)

Thanks!

[gizmo77]

Gizmo, I wouldn't touch L'Arg if you haven't got time to mess around ... the only reason I tried it was initially we were not going to TTC til October, so I figured I'd just see if it messed with me or not. Some people have no side effects except positive ones from it. I took it last cycle for all of 3 days before AF was due and AF was 2 days late, and I'm never late. Maybe it was coincidence but I'm blaming it anyway :-) The only way to know what it does for you is to try it, but like I said, if you don't have time to kill or if you have a super regular cycle as it is, I'd probably stay away from it. I was thinking I'd take it again b/c it would be more ideal for me to O a few days later this cycle, but I'm kind of afraid of it now so might just let my cycle be.

Anyhow, I do like EPO for me. It upped my CM for sure (though took about 3 cycles to see a real difference) and didn't change my cycle. Honestly now that we're TTC in June I think I am going to drop all the supps but folic acid, my prenatal, and EPO from AF-O. I'll do ASG AF-O too, mucinex 5 days prior and until O, and some BSF but I'm not going to do eggwhites.

I think gelatin is good for raising T! Loads of protein and amino acids. Disgusting though.

?

yeah i guess ill just do gelatin, but i dont eat pork and i hope that the bovine gelatine will work the same. no way to tell. from the beginning i have always wanted to do as lless supplements as possible just bc of the messing with cycles stuff. also since ive been charting, im starting to notice patterns and i dont want to mess THAT up and have to reguess and miss my window of O'ing. id rather not mess with my cycle but im assuming since T IS a hormone no matter HOW i try to raise T it WILL mess with it. so then i guess my goal is to not mess withi t TOO much! im assuming raising T in women would delay Ovulation???
and i do see that there have been ppl who took l-arg and gotten bfp-boy. so....we'll see i guess.
thx

[hope.ful]

I would consider it ALMOST positive....give it another day or two....I always get a day of them looking like that, but then they are truly darker, no question about it, in a day or two!

Thanks, Lola!

[TTC5]

OK, got a positive opk at 11 am but maybe the line wasn't darker and I can't tell now since it disappeared so it might be a fade in. Probably will wait till tonight do a smiley face and DTD tonight or in the morning?? I don't like the morning though cuz I don't get to sit w/ hips propped and have to start my day right away. I like the night where it's more leisure and no pressure.
Not sure what to do. waiting till tomorrow night might be too late. It would be really nice if this was more simple.

This is why mornings are out for me too x

[TTC5]

Hi All,

This is cemas from Ig...so this is where everybody is...lol i have been looking :)
good luck to the 2wws. And good luck to the rest of us butt lickers(ttc boy!)
Just wanted to say a hiiii

Welcome!!!

[TTC5]

Hi All, Hope you are all doing well ..I've been away for a few days..I am really not feeling well. After all the hard work I done since my m/c in March, I can't even O anymore so I can't make an attempt. I'm on CD 36 and no sign of O. And after everything I've been through since I started swaying we decided no more ttc for us. I don't know If I will try again, but for right now I am just sad for everything I did, it went for nothing. I got so fat from the diet I spent a lot of money for nothing. I can't keep doing this anymore :(

Oh huni =( xxx

[begonia]

iLuv did you get the smiley tonight I wonder? FX the attempt goes well tonight!

[3Pink1Blue]

Cemas - Welcome!

MFC - I'm sorry hun :hugs:

Nothing new here, just sitting in the 2ww :bigsmile:

[TTC5]

Any symptoms Jen?

AFM: CD 6 and I have a fade in happening already?!!!! Never this early... maybe O will come earlier?

[begonia]

Oh my TTC5! Exciting!!!! The EWCM watch begins :-) FX this is a great cycle for you!!