♥ May 2011 Blue Cheer Squad Thread ♥

[TTC5]

Oh my TTC5! Exciting!!!! The EWCM watch begins :-) FX this is a great cycle for you!!

Thankyou so much!!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

ttc5 - I'm only 4dpo so no, no symptoms yet lol.

[begonia]

Everytime I see your siggy Jen I want another baby so I can have 3 bouncing smileys!

I am so super curious to see when AF will come. I'm normally predictable but I just know now that we're actually going to try it will go get totally wonky! FX I can at least make it thru our vacay this weekend without it showing up.

[iluvmyman]

Everytime I see your siggy Jen I want another baby so I can have 3 bouncing smileys!

LOL! You are way too funny B!

[TTC5]

Hi ladies!
Ok I am CD 6 and have no CM (dry pretty much) but managed to get a reading of 6.6 pH I am pleased with this what do you guys think? Should bump up before O hey? x

[iluvmyman]

iLuv did you get the smiley tonight I wonder? FX the attempt goes well tonight!

:sigh: So, I should've brought the instructions w/ me to work this morning. I had 2 lines this morning at 11 am. I've been testing since CD11 w/ no lines so I was totally excited to have 2 lines this morning (hence my recent post at 11) till I read someone else post that said their test line was lighter than the control line. Oh yeah, dummy, I have to look at the color of the line too. Duh! I had forgot about part and couldn't even retest since once again I didn't have what I needed at work. I should keep a bunch in my bag!

Got home and managed to kill 2 expensive smiley digital opk's (I only had 3). The first one I was a complete moron (I should read the friggin directions monthly) and the 2nd one a couple hours later had an error (probably from the 1st moron move that killed my monitor). I'm scared to waste my pee on another error w/ smiley OPK's (although, once again moron.....I could have peed in my little cup and used both or at least had options)

I took a normal opk right before I started this tall tale and go a big fat nothing in the test line. Not even a faded line. :sigh: Cervix is lower and softer but CM is more but just kinda sticky not EWCM.

I guess I should wait till tomorrow even though I'm kinda horny tonight. I hate to mess this one up!! AUGH, B! I expected smooth sailing this time.....MORON! :)

I'm gonna head to walmart and get another smiley OPK pack and mucinex and some supps I'm running low on.

[TTC5]

How stressful! I can so see myself being like this next week too aghhhh!!

[iluvmyman]

How stressful! I can so see myself being like this next week too aghhhh!!

Sadly this sort of thing seems to be pretty typical for me. LOl! I wish I started the charting but I just won't be consistent w/ it. Suck sore! DH is pretty disappointed w/ no bangitty bang bang tonight. :)

[My Fabulous Children]

Welcome Cemas! Glad to see you!

MFC I'm so sorry :-( I am kinda scared of the L'arg really screwing with things so I'm just going to take it 2-3 times a week.

Babydes I agree with others, DTD now, and then 12-24 hours after the OPK. If you've got some good EWCM I know Atomic says with a +opk or not, that's a good time to have an attempt.

Lola I'm sorry to hear about your dog! I thought at first you said 12 yo DD, and I was REALLY worried about you! Then my brain caught up. That said I adore my dog and know seeing her sick would be awful. Sounds like you have a whole lot on your plate right now lady. Good to see you though!

Hope.ful wait for that +! You'll feel so much better about your attempt I think. FX your fertility works for you this month! I know so many of us are used to one-shot-wonders and it seems swaying has definitely shaken that up a bit.

L'arg work different for everyone, maybe for you it won't mess with your cycle, but for most of us it did, you never know until your try it.

Lola' I am so sorry about your Dog.

[TTC5]

Sadly this sort of thing seems to be pretty typical for me. LOl! I wish I started the charting but I just won't be consistent w/ it. Suck sore! DH is pretty disappointed w/ no bangitty bang bang tonight. :)

HAHA I bet he is lol

[My Fabulous Children]

Thanks Begonia and MFC....yeah still swaying.....The L-arg did that to me too. i had long cycles of 32 days to beging with and the l-arg made them even longer 40 + so i stopped it. it had the effect for a few months.
This month i am stopping all the supps that mess with hormones and see. The month i got a bfp( m/c) i had stopped all supps as my cycle was 50 +days on soy and somthing worked. So i am doing diet (not very strict though) and bsd etc still.
i did use EW's the month of bfp so yes i will continue with ew's. IG guru told me to do bsf 1 hr before dtd and ew during dtd.(i hr apart for the two).

I hope I will get the effect out of my body soon. I didn't even O yet ,but I'm hoping for AF to show. I just want my body back.

I really think its good not to sway very hard, first it takes too long to get pregnant And too many supps can make the cycle really messy like mine now. I will sway again and do exactly what I did with my DS not very hard and I will drop that RJ/BP.

What supps you think mess with your hormones? I would really like to know about this because the supps messed with my cycle big time.

Good luck to your Cemas I hope you get your sticky BFP soon.

[My Fabulous Children]

hey guys, ive been avoiding this thread bc its SOO long! where do i start? ;-) but i did peak in and saw that L-arg has been messing with ppls cycles. making cycles longer. im already a long cycler around 31-33days. should i even bother with the l-arg. i mean i dont have much more time to test. i want to start dieting and supplementing in july. and for those who did experience a messing of yoru cycle how long afteryou took l arg did you notice?

also any other T raising supplements for girls that are recommended? thx!

I say don't take it, but its really up to you. I noticed that's when I was waiting to O around CD 25-30 and now 36 no sign of O at all .. I WILL never take it again.

[iluvmyman]

I think I got the wrong pack of :happy: OPK's cuz I just got a :sad: OPK instead. :) No LH Surge detected! Blurg! PH at 3.4......have I been swaying at all, apparently not! WTH I know I'm not O yet but pretty stinking close w/ a sad PH of 3.4. Double Blurg!:rolleyes:

[TTC5]

I think I got the wrong pack of :happy: OPK's cuz I just got a :sad: OPK instead. :) No LH Surge detected! Blurg! PH at 3.4......have I been swaying at all, apparently not! WTH I know I'm not O yet but pretty stinking close w/ a sad PH of 3.4. Double Blurg!:rolleyes:

Is that digital tester? x

[My Fabulous Children]

im so sorry MFC! dont think of it as all for nothing bc youdid try and it did get you somewhere and you learned SOMETHING from it right??? i totally understand tho aboutspending the time money and effort..it IS a lot of work! good luck to whatever you decide. maybe you can just take abreak right now and focus on watching your existing kiss grow..thats what i keep telling myself too. im neglecting them! and i feel so guilty. but good luck whatever u decide!

Thanks hun, I really need to think about it that way :) .. I did learned so much from the messy cycles, LOL.

I agree with you I am neglecting my kids too:( I feel sooo quilty.

[iluvmyman]

Is that digital tester? x

Yes, the clear blue easy digital ovulation testers. I got the 7 pack.

[TTC5]

Sorry I meant for the pH xx

[iluvmyman]

Sorry I meant for the pH xx

LOL! Yes, it is the hanna digital PH tester. I recently calibrated it so that isn't the issue just really crappy PH.

[TTC5]

Oh bummer! Are you doing a full on sway?? Have you had troubles like this before?

[My Fabulous Children]

That's what I did. BSF 1 hr. before attempt and EW's right before attempt. Was more like a 1 1/2 hrs really since it took me a little bit to hit the Big O before attempt.

That's what I did too, but the cycle I got pregnant (m/c) I inserted EW's in the IC a hour before the attempt then I took it out before attempt. Then again when we attempt I inserted just 2ML of EWs.

[My Fabulous Children]

iluv i am stopping royal jelly, dhea, pycnogenol . Will just do FA, fish oil,zinc and potassium.

begonia, will be trying in june same as you....:)

OH I didn't see this post. I won't take royal jelly anymore ..I will just take the same supplements as I did with my DS.

[My Fabulous Children]

Cemas - Welcome!

MFC - I'm sorry hun :hugs:

Nothing new here, just sitting in the 2ww :bigsmile:

Thanks TTC5 and Jen!!

Jen I really hopeee you get your BFP this time :fx:

[My Fabulous Children]

Oh my TTC5! Exciting!!!! The EWCM watch begins :-) FX this is a great cycle for you!!

:agree: FX TTC5! So are you trying this cycle? or you waiting?

[My Fabulous Children]

Everytime I see your siggy Jen I want another baby so I can have 3 bouncing smileys!

I am so super curious to see when AF will come. I'm normally predictable but I just know now that we're actually going to try it will go get totally wonky! FX I can at least make it thru our vacay this weekend without it showing up.

Begonia, I hope you will get to use the 3 bouncing smileys soon. You trying in Oct' right?

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi ladies!
Ok I am CD 6 and have no CM (dry pretty much) but managed to get a reading of 6.6 pH I am pleased with this what do you guys think? Should bump up before O hey? x

Great pH! and normal after period your CM is dry still too early..Wait and see.

[My Fabulous Children]

:sigh: So, I should've brought the instructions w/ me to work this morning. I had 2 lines this morning at 11 am. I've been testing since CD11 w/ no lines so I was totally excited to have 2 lines this morning (hence my recent post at 11) till I read someone else post that said their test line was lighter than the control line. Oh yeah, dummy, I have to look at the color of the line too. Duh! I had forgot about part and couldn't even retest since once again I didn't have what I needed at work. I should keep a bunch in my bag!

Got home and managed to kill 2 expensive smiley digital opk's (I only had 3). The first one I was a complete moron (I should read the friggin directions monthly) and the 2nd one a couple hours later had an error (probably from the 1st moron move that killed my monitor). I'm scared to waste my pee on another error w/ smiley OPK's (although, once again moron.....I could have peed in my little cup and used both or at least had options)

I took a normal opk right before I started this tall tale and go a big fat nothing in the test line. Not even a faded line. :sigh: Cervix is lower and softer but CM is more but just kinda sticky not EWCM.

I guess I should wait till tomorrow even though I'm kinda horny tonight. I hate to mess this one up!! AUGH, B! I expected smooth sailing this time.....MORON! :)

I'm gonna head to walmart and get another smiley OPK pack and mucinex and some supps I'm running low on.

Very stressful, I know I've been through this before. Many, many times ..

[My Fabulous Children]

I think I got the wrong pack of :happy: OPK's cuz I just got a :sad: OPK instead. :) No LH Surge detected! Blurg! PH at 3.4......have I been swaying at all, apparently not! WTH I know I'm not O yet but pretty stinking close w/ a sad PH of 3.4. Double Blurg!:rolleyes:

Are you doing the drinks? and if yes which ones?

[iluvmyman]

Are you doing the drinks? and if yes which ones?

Just URAL AF-O for PH. I used to do the lemon water but got lazy on that. Doing diet pretty good except been terrible w/ my carmel frapps. Other than that not bad. It might raise closer to O, but seems like it should be higher since I s/b getting a LH surge tomorrow (CD15). Surged on CD14 last month and my body is starting to show signs of getting closer. IDK, but I sure hope it gets higher. Need to look at the benefits of doing BSF before O since it doesn't really effect your internal CM. Whatever, I'm doing the EW's either way.

[TTC5]

I would stop the frappes and see if it improves? xx

[TTC5]

:agree: FX TTC5! So are you trying this cycle? or you waiting?

TRYING ;)

[TTC5]

Great pH! and normal after period your CM is dry still too early..Wait and see.

I thought it was!! =)

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Wow, ok almost caught up!

Hey girls! Looks like we have some new members, welcome! I am on CD 7 and just waiting for O. I am a lot more relaxed this month, DH and I will dtd every other day- and try to get an 0-1 at night. That is our goal.

[TTC5]

Wow, ok almost caught up!

Hey girls! Looks like we have some new members, welcome! I am on CD 7 and just waiting for O. I am a lot more relaxed this month, DH and I will dtd every other day- and try to get an 0-1 at night. That is our goal.

Close to me, I am CD 6 =D

[babydes56]

I hope I will get the effect out of my body soon. I didn't even O yet ,but I'm hoping for AF to show. I just want my body back.

I really think its good not to sway very hard, first it takes too long to get pregnant And too many supps can make the cycle really messy like mine now. I will sway again and do exactly what I did with my DS not very hard and I will drop that RJ/BP.

What supps you think mess with your hormones? I would really like to know about this because the supps messed with my cycle big time.

Good luck to your Cemas I hope you get your sticky BFP soon.

Wot cd are you on now, sorry to hear O hasnt come yet! I think it's a great plan to do as you did when you conceived your DS because it obviously worked

[babydes56]

Close to me, I am CD 6 =D

Good luck with your attempt this month, your Ph's great well done. Mine was 5 a few days ago, aaargh

[babydes56]

Just URAL AF-O for PH. I used to do the lemon water but got lazy on that. Doing diet pretty good except been terrible w/ my carmel frapps. Other than that not bad. It might raise closer to O, but seems like it should be higher since I s/b getting a LH surge tomorrow (CD15). Surged on CD14 last month and my body is starting to show signs of getting closer. IDK, but I sure hope it gets higher. Need to look at the benefits of doing BSF before O since it doesn't really effect your internal CM. Whatever, I'm doing the EW's either way.

I'm having a similar cycle as you, i thought i'd ovulate today but no sign. I did an opk yesterday & nothing, my cp was high, soft & open but today it's high, medium. My temps have gone up slightly from yesterday so i have no idea what's going on. DH hasnt released for 4 days today so i was hoping for +opk & then going for it but now i'm just confused.. I am going to attempt more than once though but just dont to put myself in girl territory. My body's playing tricks on me!

Sometimes i think it's easier to dtd for a girl than a boy because you just cant nail the timing as each month's different

[babydes56]

Cemas, welcome back! I'm sure the break has done you some good

[babydes56]

Wow, ok almost caught up!

Hey girls! Looks like we have some new members, welcome! I am on CD 7 and just waiting for O. I am a lot more relaxed this month, DH and I will dtd every other day- and try to get an 0-1 at night. That is our goal.

You've got the right attitude, relaxing more's good. Good luck

[babydes56]

Lola, sorry to hear about your dog

[Cheekymoo]

Wow you girls are chatty ! Welcome to the newbies!
Has taken me a bit read up so will have to keep it brief tonight:) I am getting soooo excited reading about those that are trying and those in the 2ww- I keep hoping i will log on and see some good news.:)

MFC- I really feel for you - hugs! TTC is so hard and when you add in swaying and running a family I am suprised anyone can manage! I hope things pick up and you start feeling a bit better whatever happens.

ILUV- Wow thats tough about your PH!! I can only suggest stopping the frappes because i am sure they have a bit of sugar....and praying it picks up before 'o' - I worry most about my PH and can imagine how bummed you are feeling -good luck let us know what happens with it!

Lola- thanks for the info re what to take in the 2ww.....but just to clarify by prenatals do you mean vite, fish oil, folate is ok and stop zinc and potassium BSD gelatin ??

As for me I have finally seen my ph rise! It is ph6 and i am CD7 - although I am not taking the max ural as this is my trial run for next month- I will def up it for next month though! Not sure if it has to do with upping the fish oil or just the urals kicking in finally but will continue on!

Got to go make some green tea :) Bye for now.

[cemas]

Thanks girls for welcoming me. The vacation break was good but diet was totally offff!....
Hi Jen, so u r 3pinkneedblue....and gL babydes so u O soon.

i am seeing a lot of people here use URal rather then BSD and COT drinks......is there a big difference?

[cemas]

Is it Ok to have mangoes....i love them but i hear they generate a lot of body heat.

[iluvmyman]

Are you doing the drinks? and if yes which ones?

Green tea supps 2 - 2x per day too.

[iluvmyman]

I'm having a similar cycle as you, i thought i'd ovulate today but no sign. I did an opk yesterday & nothing, my cp was high, soft & open but today it's high, medium. My temps have gone up slightly from yesterday so i have no idea what's going on. DH hasnt released for 4 days today so i was hoping for +opk & then going for it but now i'm just confused.. I am going to attempt more than once though but just dont to put myself in girl territory. My body's playing tricks on me!

Sometimes i think it's easier to dtd for a girl than a boy because you just cant nail the timing as each month's different

DH told me that we should just have sex everyday for the next few days to hit it.....of coarse he suggested that. I've really felt like my body was just trying to mess w/ me too.

You think you have it all down, huh baby. Then it gets all confusing like. I think I prefer lack of experience over doing this for 9 months though. :) I don't chart so I can't help on that.....or much at all really. My DH gets really ansy at the 4 day mark so I will pray for you + opk!! Let's get this show on the road and join the 2WW'ers

All signs for me point to ovulation today. Nausea, more stretchyer CM and will test PH and do an OPK in an hour or 2. Different from last month but only a day off....if I get a + opk that is. I forgot to do my fertile focus this morning before i brushed my teeth. Why do i keep wasting money on those. LOL!

[LolaInLove]

lola ....... i was thinking of doing bsf week of O and after every 3 hours on day of O and before attempt , then using EW while dtd ??? i think that was all ladies done in successful boy sways and got prag also ??? dont they two would mix there ??OR i shud do bsf and pressed ??

I think the key is to not do a bsf while the ew is in there....like do it an hour before you attempt, then wait another 4 hours after.....I don't think it's necessary to do it after your attempt, to be honest. Once those sperm are in there, they are doing their job and it doesn't take long (maybe an hour or two, maybe less) for them to get from weiner to egg, kwim? LOL

So, I do plan on doing it myself, but I will only do 1 bsf about an hour before attempt, that is it. It's a temporary shift in ph, so there is not much point in doing it for a week and then afterwards....but that is my opinion. I am pretty sure, fwiw, that Atomic is not a huge fan of repeated bsf either....there is just no point. It's like sunscreen....why would you put on sunscreen for a week before you go out for a beach day? You just need to do it right before you go, because it's a temporary thing that only lasts 3-4 hours like the bsf. Does that make sense? I don't think it's bad to do it a lot before, that is up to you, BUT it does mask your natural cm, making it super watery, and it can be very irritating and make your vaj smell a little bad (gross, but you all know it's true). Not my favorite thing to do before I go dtd with the DH for sure, but I will do it once about an hour before we bd. But, I use preseed also, which doesn't have the sperm heads exploding if they mix.

When I was doing ew and bsf, I was doing a big bsf and then immediately putting ew up there, then doing another bsf afterwards, which a lot of our old crew did and got pg.....it just worries me because I had 5 months of impeccable timing and NOTHING...then when I dropped the ew, got pg two months in a row! And, maybe a lot of bfns are related to that....you know, some of the swaying stuff does inhibit pregnancy, but better for us than the pink swayers for sure.

[iluvmyman]

Lola, sorry to hear about your dog

I second that. Much harder when you have kids and have to deal with that too. Sorry Lola.

[iluvmyman]

I think the key is to not do a bsf while the ew is in there....like do it an hour before you attempt, then wait another 4 hours after.....I don't think it's necessary to do it after your attempt, to be honest. Once those sperm are in there, they are doing their job and it doesn't take long (maybe an hour or two, maybe less) for them to get from weiner to egg, kwim? LOL

So, I do plan on doing it myself, but I will only do 1 bsf about an hour before attempt, that is it. It's a temporary shift in ph, so there is not much point in doing it for a week and then afterwards....but that is my opinion. I am pretty sure, fwiw, that Atomic is not a huge fan of repeated bsf either....there is just no point. It's like sunscreen....why would you put on sunscreen for a week before you go out for a beach day? You just need to do it right before you go, because it's a temporary thing that only lasts 3-4 hours like the bsf. Does that make sense? I don't think it's bad to do it a lot before, that is up to you, BUT it does mask your natural cm, making it super watery, and it can be very irritating and make your vaj smell a little bad (gross, but you all know it's true). Not my favorite thing to do before I go dtd with the DH for sure, but I will do it once about an hour before we bd. But, I use preseed also, which doesn't have the sperm heads exploding if they mix.

When I was doing ew and bsf, I was doing a big bsf and then immediately putting ew up there, then doing another bsf afterwards, which a lot of our old crew did and got pg.....it just worries me because I had 5 months of impeccable timing and NOTHING...then when I dropped the ew, got pg two months in a row! And, maybe a lot of bfns are related to that....you know, some of the swaying stuff does inhibit pregnancy, but better for us than the pink swayers for sure.

I was thinking about that too, w/the repeated bsf the week of or so because it's effecting the PH in the hoo haa, and not the PH of cm in the cervix. Now having done the BS drinks are different. I think Atomic thought the only benifit would be to help kill off girl sperms but that's it.

I think I might do the bsf them couple hours before attemp then EW's w/ attempt or no bsf at all. My ph is low though but need to check if O today.

Lola, I hate to bring this up but am a little scared of the preseed. Did you had 2 m/c's using it? I've read other people's comments (not on this site) that they are convinced their m/c's were caused by preseed. I've never had to experience and m/c and am scared to use it. I'm sure there is no way to know for sure and I probably won't either way but I just timidly throw that out there to you.

[princessap]

just curious where the info is coming from that preseed causes miscarriage??
i used it with my second DD and she is obviously fine. I have used it this time too but now am worried. could someone show me where it says this please.
thanks

[princessap]

Lola. I hear you about worrying about swaying. We had no issues conceiving our daughters and this time we have had perfect timing, ewcm and nothing :(
Are you due for an attempt soon?
Good luck.

[LolaInLove]

I just scoured IG for a while looking for that old thread about not mixing ew and bs. I disctincly remember her telling me that because I freaked out thinking, well, of course that's why I haven't gotten pg, I keep bombing all the sperm. I can't find it, and there were a lot of threads with a zillions posts that I can't look through. Anyway, I would just be sure to space the bsf and putting ew up there by at least an hour. And by the way....don't anyone take this the wrong way, but I don't think the info on IG was presented in an accurate or easy to understand fashion. I mean, to tell people that they should not do preseed when swaying boy and they would be swaying girl if they did is, in my opinion, not cool. It just made me feel bad, but I had no success with the ew. And of course, I doubt there is a singe pink swayer on this site that is using preseed. I would NEVER do that if I was trying for a girl. The ph is 7.5!!! Anyway, I didn't like IG nearly as much as this site, and I like our moderators a heck of a lot more also.

Cheeky, I would just ONLY take a prenatal vitamin (with folic acid) when in the 2ww....but I am a better safe than sorry kinda gal, so if I did continue to take anything else, and was indeed pg, I would worry that something was not good for the embryo, kwim? Of course, some say there are things it is ok to take....maybe scour about that, I bet Atomic has posted about that.

MFC, I am actually on a kinda crash diet this month. I need to decrease my fat ass and increase my self esteem before I try this again. Actually, thinking about doing the diet as hard core as I used to again, for fear of going back up on this roller coaster. I'm trying to intake very few calories, like no more than 800 a day, but will only do this till the end of June. Once July rolls around, it's back to salty fatness. LOL I am going to do the diet, but not as hard core as before. To be honest, I am feeling so much better about myself already. *OK, I just went and weighed myself, and I have lost 1lb. Great. Still carrying around 26 extra lbs. I think I'm going to have to just start working out, plain and simple. I was planning on it, but I just NEVER have the time!!! It's so not the lack of will, because I love working out, but no time!!!!

Princess, thanks....it is frustrating. I am going to sway again, but again, like I said above, will be modified. I plan on doing the SMEP plan (or Deanna's plan) if my timing is not good for o-2 and o bding, and will use preseed and a bsf about one to two hours beforehand. I am only taking a prenatal right now, but am planning on starting a litany of antioxidant supps with DH on Sunday night (I have them, just need to make a supp schedule and divvy them all up into our trays. LORDDDDD). I'll be getting back on the diet (more loosely, meaning not as many potatoes and burgers) and will do the drinks and all. So, hoping it helps. I am just so paranoid about having another m/c. If we do, then I am done and am happy with my 2 girls, and will just go on with my life.

[begonia]

Sadly this sort of thing seems to be pretty typical for me. LOl! I wish I started the charting but I just won't be consistent w/ it. Suck sore! DH is pretty disappointed w/ no bangitty bang bang tonight. :)

Iluv you crack me up :bigsmile: I mean I am totally bummed for your OPK (Oh how I HATE when my smileys have errors, as pricey as they are) issues, but you are FUNNY!

Ok have to go read like 3 more pages to see what's up ... chatty morning here!

[begonia]

What supps you think mess with your hormones? I would really like to know about this because the supps messed with my cycle big time.

Good luck to your Cemas I hope you get your sticky BFP soon.

Someone might have answered this but I think the ones most likely to mess with you are L'Arg, EPO (though it hasn't messed with me), B6, FertileCM, soy, RJ, and TT. But as we all know ... only way to know if it'll mess with you or help you is to try it :-(

[begonia]

Begonia, I hope you will get to use the 3 bouncing smileys soon. You trying in Oct' right?

Thank you MFC! We're going to try June! I am so excited :-) I didn't think DH would say yes to moving it up but surprisingly he is totally on board and ready to go. Anyhow, it's funny but now that we're so close to trying instead of ramping up everything I dropped almost all the supps and am just doing a prenatal and EPO from AF-O. I just feel better about it now that reality is setting in. EPO has actually been great for my CM but also taken away a TON of my AF cramping so I'm keeping that one.

[Tink18]

Ok so thanks to everyone be so dang helpful I bought Ph testers, ovulation sticks and a basal thermometer. They should be here any day! I think my body so excited to start AF showed up at my door this morning like a week early WTF is that all about?? I wonder if it's because I have been doing this boot camp this and working out really hard trying get my fat ass to lose some weight before I start the boy diet? What do you think? anyway, I would Like to spend the next few months figuring all this ovulation and timing out so come Sept. I'm hoping "nail it on the head" pun intended! I just cant get over that Af came so early this month...what a B.

[begonia]

Just URAL AF-O for PH. I used to do the lemon water but got lazy on that. Doing diet pretty good except been terrible w/ my carmel frapps. Other than that not bad. It might raise closer to O, but seems like it should be higher since I s/b getting a LH surge tomorrow (CD15). Surged on CD14 last month and my body is starting to show signs of getting closer. IDK, but I sure hope it gets higher. Need to look at the benefits of doing BSF before O since it doesn't really effect your internal CM. Whatever, I'm doing the EW's either way.

FWIW Iluv I typically have low pH still too ... I take comfort in how Atomic says pH has the least research supporting it, so I quit testing mine because it was constantly making me feel like nothing I was doing was helping since it always stayed the same!

[begonia]

I've been eating them .... good source of potassium and vitamins. But I'm pretty flex on the diet, mainly shooting for high protein and high nutrient, not so concerned about alkaline/acid.

Edited to add this was in reply to Cemas (i think that is who asked) asking about Mango! I meant to quote the Q :-)

[lightofmylife]

I think the key is to not do a bsf while the ew is in there....like do it an hour before you attempt, then wait another 4 hours after.....I don't think it's necessary to do it after your attempt, to be honest. Once those sperm are in there, they are doing their job and it doesn't take long (maybe an hour or two, maybe less) for them to get from weiner to egg, kwim? LOL

So, I do plan on doing it myself, but I will only do 1 bsf about an hour before attempt, that is it. It's a temporary shift in ph, so there is not much point in doing it for a week and then afterwards....but that is my opinion. I am pretty sure, fwiw, that Atomic is not a huge fan of repeated bsf either....there is just no point. It's like sunscreen....why would you put on sunscreen for a week before you go out for a beach day? You just need to do it right before you go, because it's a temporary thing that only lasts 3-4 hours like the bsf. Does that make sense? I don't think it's bad to do it a lot before, that is up to you, BUT it does mask your natural cm, making it super watery, and it can be very irritating and make your vaj smell a little bad (gross, but you all know it's true). Not my favorite thing to do before I go dtd with the DH for sure, but I will do it once about an hour before we bd. But, I use preseed also, which doesn't have the sperm heads exploding if they mix.

When I was doing ew and bsf, I was doing a big bsf and then immediately putting ew up there, then doing another bsf afterwards, which a lot of our old crew did and got pg.....it just worries me because I had 5 months of impeccable timing and NOTHING...then when I dropped the ew, got pg two months in a row! And, maybe a lot of bfns are related to that....you know, some of the swaying stuff does inhibit pregnancy, but better for us than the pink swayers for sure.
that really makes sense . if its affect lasts for 4 hours then doing bsf 1 hour b4 bd is good enough ..... so if we have odds (supposed) at least 51% despite 50% with swaying then what will be this ratio if DH is 100% not on the board ???
i have just 2 months in TTC but DH became agree for # 3 in terms of no swaying :(
can i mix his supp in food or any other suggestions ??

[iluvmyman]

Darn it all! Did smily and regular OPK and both negative but nauseas this morning, blood in my CM (never noticed that before) and CM closer to desired.

Went to test my PH, and my PH meter (which was working last night) won't power on and I can't currently test the batteries or get new ones. I sure hope its the batteries and not the probe. You've got to be kidding me. I'll test for O again this afternoon, but I'm shocked and irritated!

[begonia]

Iluv you have GOT to be close! The blood in CM around O is such a good sign of a strong O! And I totally get nausea around O too. I bet you're going to get that + soon. Do you at least have a second line on there that is somewhat dark?

Light FWIW my DH isn't swaying at all and I'm not at all concerned about it.

[iluvmyman]

just curious where the info is coming from that preseed causes miscarriage??
i used it with my second DD and she is obviously fine. I have used it this time too but now am worried. could someone show me where it says this please.
thanks

I don't think w/o extensive research it's possible to even know, but what sticks out in my mind as a place I read that is on early-pregnancytests.com in the comments section under pre-seed. Any mention of it and it scares me so i've been very apprehensive about it. I DON'T want to create any fear cuz again there's no way to know that for sure, I just read it and it sticks out in my mind.

[LolaInLove]

that really makes sense . if its affect lasts for 4 hours then doing bsf 1 hour b4 bd is good enough ..... so if we have odds (supposed) at least 51% despite 50% with swaying then what will be this ratio if DH is 100% not on the board ???
i have just 2 months in TTC but DH became agree for # 3 in terms of no swaying :(
can i mix his supp in food or any other suggestions ??

I would sneak them in somehow. I know that is technically a very underhanded thing to do to your DH, but it's not like you are giving him something bad for him. But, will he just take a regular vitamin? That may be enough, better than nothing!

[iluvmyman]

[QUOTE=begonia;37806]Iluv you have GOT to be close! The blood in CM around O is such a good sign of a strong O! And I totally get nausea around O too. I bet you're going to get that + soon. Do you at least have a second line on there that is somewhat dark?QUOTE]

I know, right! WTH, B!? Never noticed blood in CM, I think that's your fault B, for brining that to my body's attention. :) Not even a little baby tiny itty bitty blue test line. The digital just gave me a straight out....oh heck no! Will test again this afternoon and hope to hit that 12hr mark tonight so I don't have to mess w/ this in the a.m.

I can't believe about my PH tester too. Why??????????? :)

[iluvmyman]

Iluv you crack me up :bigsmile: I mean I am totally bummed for your OPK (Oh how I HATE when my smileys have errors, as pricey as they are) issues, but you are FUNNY!

Ok have to go read like 3 more pages to see what's up ... chatty morning here!

Awww, we'll just stroke each other's ego then, cuz you totally crack me up too. Fo Sho!

[iluvmyman]

Ok so thanks to everyone be so dang helpful I bought Ph testers, ovulation sticks and a basal thermometer. They should be here any day! I think my body so excited to start AF showed up at my door this morning like a week early WTF is that all about?? I wonder if it's because I have been doing this boot camp this and working out really hard trying get my fat ass to lose some weight before I start the boy diet? What do you think? anyway, I would Like to spend the next few months figuring all this ovulation and timing out so come Sept. I'm hoping "nail it on the head" pun intended! I just cant get over that Af came so early this month...what a B.

I'm not sure but you made me laugh.

[lightofmylife]

I would sneak them in somehow. I know that is technically a very underhanded thing to do to your DH, but it's not like you are giving him something bad for him. But, will he just take a regular vitamin? That may be enough, better than nothing!
NO , he has left taking everything thing except of fish oil due to cholesterol , i discuss swaying with my ob and she said its ok if u r changing ur hormones but more imp is ur dh's health and sperms , healthy and more sperms favor boy, thats why we recommend men abstain for 4 days b4 giving sample for ivf just for more sperm count and u know ivf slightly has more boys than girls.
i dont know if she is right but i just wanna cover this chapter too :)

[LolaInLove]

Iluv, I always breakout when I get a +opk also because of the estrogen being at its peak to cause the LH surge. Maybe you too? If your okp is not +, maybe your cervix got roughed up with some sex? I have heard that when an egg pops out of the follicle, some blood can come also, but if your opk is not +, it may be from another cause. Hope that sucker gets + soon though!

[iluvmyman]

FWIW Iluv I typically have low pH still too ... I take comfort in how Atomic says pH has the least research supporting it, so I quit testing mine because it was constantly making me feel like nothing I was doing was helping since it always stayed the same!

I've done very good about not testing my CM since I wasn't near O. But was totally dissapointed last night being near O to get such a low reading. Would test PH again....but not O....and :tissue: you know the rest of the story. :)

[LolaInLove]

Lots of DHs don't do a damn thing differently, and couples are still getting the dg. I wouldn't worry either, Begonia. And I never check my ph either, I am so over that. I'm gonna use preseed and have a big O, and a bsf also, so it will be nice and high when we attempt.

[iluvmyman]

Iluv, I always breakout when I get a +opk also because of the estrogen being at its peak to cause the LH surge. Maybe you too? If your okp is not +, maybe your cervix got roughed up with some sex? I have heard that when an egg pops out of the follicle, some blood can come also, but if your opk is not +, it may be from another cause. Hope that sucker gets + soon though!

I wish that was why the bloody CM. I am proud to say that I was horny last night but contained myself, so we are acutally at 3 days abstinance I think or technically tonight will be 36 hrs abastained.

I have broken out for 3 weeks and been crabby as all hell, so hope that means this will be a strong hormone month But my body is playin some ugly little games today. Last cycle + opk was in the late afternoon (although couldn't test earlier that day due to forgetting my opk's at home) so we'll wait and see.

Do you think I would be totally off base to DTD full on tonight in hope and just have to spermies hanging out? I'm sure i"m really close.

[iluvmyman]

Lots of DHs don't do a damn thing differently, and couples are still getting the dg. I wouldn't worry either, Begonia. And I never check my ph either, I am so over that. I'm gonna use preseed and have a big O, and a bsf also, so it will be nice and high when we attempt.

I did the Big O before and after on our attempts too. Lot of pressure to preform to get the big O though and it takes a while before, even w/ help. LOL!

[iluvmyman]

I need the PH tester for my EW's too. I sure hope it's the batteries. I've got to log off soon and deal with the day. :)

wrong, my batteries are good, I had it on the wrong setting. That means my PH tester is done broke. You've got to be kidding me! I did want it for my EW's. I have treated that thing w/ kid gloves. I can't belive this!! AUGH!

I'm not anal about my PH either and will DTD regardless. It is disappointing though, I'm not gonna lie. If that's natural for my body I've had two other boys before so it will be what it will be I guess. I'm not waiting.

[LolaInLove]

I did the Big O before and after on our attempts too. Lot of pressure to preform to get the big O though and it takes a while before, even w/ help. LOL!

OMG tell me about it! When we first started swaying, I was like "make me have an orgasm first" and so much pressure, it was not really fun....now, and sorry tmi....but maybe it will help someone have an easier go at the attempt, because it is MUCH easier for me....

This is what I do, in order- when it's about an hour from sex time, I do a bsf and DH has a caffeine drink. We both take a Mucinex. Then, right before, I excuse myself to the bathroom to insert preseed and "freshen up" which means insert preseed and make myself have a big orgasm in there so I know the preseed is up in my cervix more and that my natural cm has a little elevated ph boost from the orgasm also. Then, we go dtd and I have no pressure to do that....and we do it doggy style and I can't orgasm that way anyway, so I just flip and prop afterwards. That's it. But, having a self-O beforehand when I put in the preseed helps A TON I think.

[LolaInLove]

ILuv, I'm not sure what your bd belief/plan is....if you are going for one shot or a couple of them 48 hours apart or whatever, but if it was me, I'd go for it asap, and then again when you have your +. If you are going for one shot, then wait as long as your DH has released no longer than 3 days ago.

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola - I agree about the info in IG, not clear and you got chastised if you ask for clarification. Yet another reason I love it here, there is no dumb question.

Cemas - yep, I'm jensgirls. New site, new name :wink:

Tink - boo for early af.

Begonia - I quit testing my pH as well. It has risen a bit since starting to sway but it since refuses to budge and it makes me feel like a failure.

Light - I'm with Lola, see if you can talk him into a daily but if not I know some crazy unhealthy men who have son's. I've come to believe it's so much more about us. Also a lot of dh's sups are to raise sperm count and make his swimmers healthier, explain his sups are about super sperm not swaying :bigsmile:

iluv - I feel ya on the pressure for the big O, ironic to find it such a hassle lol


Damn you ladies have been chatty this morning. I return one e-mail and bam 10 more posts lol 5dpo here, tick tick tick.

[gizmo77]

OMG tell me about it! When we first started swaying, I was like "make me have an orgasm first" and so much pressure, it was not really fun....now, and sorry tmi....but maybe it will help someone have an easier go at the attempt, because it is MUCH easier for me....

This is what I do, in order- when it's about an hour from sex time, I do a bsf and DH has a caffeine drink. We both take a Mucinex. Then, right before, I excuse myself to the bathroom to insert preseed and "freshen up" which means insert preseed and make myself have a big orgasm in there so I know the preseed is up in my cervix more and that my natural cm has a little elevated ph boost from the orgasm also. Then, we go dtd and I have no pressure to do that....and we do it doggy style and I can't orgasm that way anyway, so I just flip and prop afterwards. That's it. But, having a self-O beforehand when I put in the preseed helps A TON I think.

good to know!!! esply after inserting preseed or EW! theres no way id be able to have an O during doggie style..i HATE that position but will practice and try it!

[iluvmyman]

OMG tell me about it! When we first started swaying, I was like "make me have an orgasm first" and so much pressure, it was not really fun....now, and sorry tmi....but maybe it will help someone have an easier go at the attempt, because it is MUCH easier for me....

This is what I do, in order- when it's about an hour from sex time, I do a bsf and DH has a caffeine drink. We both take a Mucinex. Then, right before, I excuse myself to the bathroom to insert preseed and "freshen up" which means insert preseed and make myself have a big orgasm in there so I know the preseed is up in my cervix more and that my natural cm has a little elevated ph boost from the orgasm also. Then, we go dtd and I have no pressure to do that....and we do it doggy style and I can't orgasm that way anyway, so I just flip and prop afterwards. That's it. But, having a self-O beforehand when I put in the preseed helps A TON I think.

I love it! Smart move to O to get the preseed up there. Can't do that w/ Ew's since they'd just all fall out, but good move. TMI Warning all! I have never been able to have the big O w/o some hand held help mostly or a lot of work down there w/ me running the helm, but no internal O's ever. I've had a hard time w/ reaching the Big O when DH is paying attention. I wish it wasn't that way but I can't help it. We have rockin BD life, that's just hard for me. So adding the pressure to preform is tough. I ask him to leave the room after so I can have the Big O again in peace. I'm so ashamed but it is what it is. LOL! Better to reach the Big O alone then not at all, especially when it comes to Doing the baby dance!

[gizmo77]

OH I didn't see this post. I won't take royal jelly anymore ..I will just take the same supplements as I did with my DS.

just curious, MFC, what made you add or change your supplements this time around (doing it differently from what you took with DS1?)

[iluvmyman]

ILuv, I'm not sure what your bd belief/plan is....if you are going for one shot or a couple of them 48 hours apart or whatever, but if it was me, I'd go for it asap, and then again when you have your +. If you are going for one shot, then wait as long as your DH has released no longer than 3 days ago.

My bd/belief plan is forever changing......Leaning towards just going for it but I'll see how i feel tonight. I don't want a BFN again. My priorities are all over the place. I'll just have to wait and see I guess. I think maybe DTD tonight and tomorrow night. Hmmmm....thanks for your input.

[gizmo77]

I was thinking about that too, w/the repeated bsf the week of or so because it's effecting the PH in the hoo haa, and not the PH of cm in the cervix. Now having done the BS drinks are different. I think Atomic thought the only benifit would be to help kill off girl sperms but that's it.

I think I might do the bsf them couple hours before attemp then EW's w/ attempt or no bsf at all. My ph is low though but need to check if O today.

Lola, I hate to bring this up but am a little scared of the preseed. Did you had 2 m/c's using it? I've read other people's comments (not on this site) that they are convinced their m/c's were caused by preseed. I've never had to experience and m/c and am scared to use it. I'm sure there is no way to know for sure and I probably won't either way but I just timidly throw that out there to you.

make ssense about the BSF the week of O up to O. the only reason why i can see ppl doing it is to 'regulate' the high pH so as to gaurantee a high pH..just talking out of my a$$! ;-)

[3Pink1Blue]

We gave up on doggy style, we do a modified missionary that allows for deep penetration, easy O and no rolling over. This is a little graphic (it's animated) but much easier then trying to explain it. Sorry if anyone is offended or it's way tmi :bigsmile:

http://www.sexinfo101.com/sp_deepstick.shtml

iluv- I have the same problem, have to take things into my own hands so to speak. I can have a combo but not just inside, the above position is great for letting you get "involved" lol

[iluvmyman]

good to know!!! esply after inserting preseed or EW! theres no way id be able to have an O during doggie style..i HATE that position but will practice and try it!

Yeah, totally no way on the reaching an O doggy style for me either. DH's a butt guy so he doesn't make it too long anyhow. Might need to edit that last part out. LOL!

LOL 3PNB, we are chatty and I have done nothing but eat breakfast and yammer. I have to spend the rest of my day after 1pm cleaning my MIL's. My sister and her 3 kids are coming this weekend and I have literally too much to do before Saturday night to accomodate them when there is literally no room here. LOL! I really should face my demons in this house but I'd rather yammer, copmplain and try to figure out my plan of attack.

[gizmo77]

We gave up on doggy style, we do a modified missionary that allows for deep penetration, easy O and no rolling over. This is a little graphic (it's animated) but much easier then trying to explain it. Again sorry if offended or tmi :bigsmile:

http://www.sexinfo101.com/sp_deepstick.shtml



HAHAHHAA! love it. ive been on that site before just to make sure i knew what doggie style was..guess i can try that too..have in the past! HAHAHHA cant get over those figures..no offending here!! :-)

[iluvmyman]

make ssense about the BSF the week of O up to O. the only reason why i can see ppl doing it is to 'regulate' the high pH so as to gaurantee a high pH..just talking out of my a$$! ;-)

I just don't think it gets up into the CM in the cervix which is what the aim is. It's just upping the PH in the V-jay. Digesting it over a period of time would though. But I'm sure I'm talking out my a$$, too. I did discuss this w/ Atomic though and she didn't seem to think it was that necessary.

[iluvmyman]

We gave up on doggy style, we do a modified missionary that allows for deep penetration, easy O and no rolling over. This is a little graphic (it's animated) but much easier then trying to explain it. Again sorry if anyone is offended or way tmi :bigsmile:

http://www.sexinfo101.com/sp_deepstick.shtml

iluv- I have the same problem, have to take things into my own hands so to speak. I can have a combo but not just inside, the above position is great for letting you get "involved" lol

OMGosh that is awesome! I love that you posted that link! Girl on top is good too but not for "helping yourself" That position seems like a winner. Love it!

I just love you guys here!

[gizmo77]

Ok so thanks to everyone be so dang helpful I bought Ph testers, ovulation sticks and a basal thermometer. They should be here any day! I think my body so excited to start AF showed up at my door this morning like a week early WTF is that all about?? I wonder if it's because I have been doing this boot camp this and working out really hard trying get my fat ass to lose some weight before I start the boy diet? What do you think? anyway, I would Like to spend the next few months figuring all this ovulation and timing out so come Sept. I'm hoping "nail it on the head" pun intended! I just cant get over that Af came so early this month...what a B.

yay! your tools are arriving! this new cycle that i just started (3 days ago) my period is lighter than usual. ive lost a good amount of weight the last couple months myself. also the cycles are getting shorter (started at 36, 33, 31days). for me i think loss of weight does that..shorter cycles, lighter periods? i dont know..interesting tho. defly i know exercise affects it.

[3Pink1Blue]

HAHAHHAA! love it. ive been on that site before just to make sure i knew what doggie style was..guess i can try that too..have in the past! HAHAHHA cant get over those figures..no offending here!! :-)

Didn't think tmi existed here but I'd rather apologize upfront lol

Iluv - its fantasitc :wink:

[iluvmyman]

TMI but need to get some advice. OK, I just went tinkle on the potty and it's been like 2hrs I think since my last tinkle. I wiped and there was quite a bit of blood and not mucusy either. I'm getting nervous. As I continued to wipe, less blood like it's been accumulating and wasn't on my panties, but not in the CM like it was either. What the heck? Should I be nervous. Does Atomic have a sticky about that?

I just googled it and eveything says normal but this had Never happended before. Random spotting for 1 day a few weeks before getting prego w/ DS2 but mirena had recently fallen out and shouldn't be related. That's the only time I've ever had this happen before so I'm stupidly kinda really freaked out and I'm not sure why. It might be a good thing but it's not normal.

[lightofmylife]

We gave up on doggy style, we do a modified missionary that allows for deep penetration, easy O and no rolling over. This is a little graphic (it's animated) but much easier then trying to explain it. Sorry if anyone is offended or it's way tmi :bigsmile:

http://www.sexinfo101.com/sp_deepstick.shtml

l
hahahh....love it ;)

[iluvmyman]

This is a good link about it http://www.justmommies.com/articles/ovulation-spotting.shtml and like Lola said is supposed to be good. It was a lot more that I would've excpected and bright red. Sorry for freaking out but this is not normal for me and I forget how fragile I can be sometimes. Why would this happen all of a sudden though, the supps? I sure hope a baby is meant to be for us this month!!

[cemas]

I love it! Smart move to O to get the preseed up there. Can't do that w/ Ew's since they'd just all fall out, but good move. TMI Warning all! I have never been able to have the big O w/o some hand held help mostly or a lot of work down there w/ me running the helm, but no internal O's ever. I've had a hard time w/ reaching the Big O when DH is paying attention. I wish it wasn't that way but I can't help it. We have rockin BD life, that's just hard for me. So adding the pressure to preform is tough. I ask him to leave the room after so I can have the Big O again in peace. I'm so ashamed but it is what it is. LOL! Better to reach the Big O alone then not at all, especially when it comes to Doing the baby dance!

Ditto here iluv...i ask DH to leave too so i can have the big O. Off lately i have stopped the pre-O before DTD because for me the 1st one is Strong and so i rather save it when i have Dh's sperms in so they can be sucked up....sorry TMI...thats what idid when TBM and Pg last time.

Begonia, i plan to keep relishing the mangoes:)

GL jen and iluv so u O soon

[iluvmyman]

Ditto here iluv...i ask DH to leave too so i can have the big O. Off lately i have stopped the pre-O before DTD because for me the 1st one is Strong and so i rather save it when i have Dh's sperms in so they can be sucked up....sorry TMI...thats what idid when TBM and Pg last time.

Begonia, i plan to keep relishing the mangoes:)

GL jen and iluv so u O soon

No worries, that wasn't tmi, that was good stuff!

[cemas]

Love the site Jen.Thanks!!

[babydes56]

Goodness me i cant keep up with the chat today! I'll catch up with everyone tomorrow but just needed your advice about dtd tonight. DH hasnt released for 4 days today & i've finally got +opk on digital & it's really dark line. I usually get 2-3 days of +++opk, should i dtd tonight? Help!!

[iluvmyman]

OK, if I look hard enough I can see a very light test line but it's super light on my opk. Maybe by this evening it will be darker and I'll try another smiley OPK. :sigh: Still have to decide what that means for me but FX ladies!

Every reply is me me me me me me. I'm irritating myself but I will be logging off for a couple of hours so I can clean my mil's house.

Sorry baby it's my fault. I'm in a similar conundrum but worse and don't know the answer. I think I'll just play it by ear tonight but better early than late so I might just go for it tonight and tomorrow night. Not sure though

[babydes56]

Oh i also dont have much ewcm now, dont know why because i had some the last few days. My preseed has arrived to i plan to use that with a pinch of bs

[TTC5]

TMI but need to get some advice. OK, I just went tinkle on the potty and it's been like 2hrs I think since my last tinkle. I wiped and there was quite a bit of blood and not mucusy either. I'm getting nervous. As I continued to wipe, less blood like it's been accumulating and wasn't on my panties, but not in the CM like it was either. What the heck? Should I be nervous. Does Atomic have a sticky about that?

I just googled it and eveything says normal but this had Never happended before. Random spotting for 1 day a few weeks before getting prego w/ DS2 but mirena had recently fallen out and shouldn't be related. That's the only time I've ever had this happen before so I'm stupidly kinda really freaked out and I'm not sure why. It might be a good thing but it's not normal.

Hope all is ok x

[babydes56]

OK, if I look hard enough I can see a very light test line but it's super light on my opk. Maybe by this evening it will be darker and I'll try another smiley OPK. :sigh: Still have to decide what that means for me but FX ladies!

Every reply is me me me me me me. I'm irritating myself but I will be logging off for a couple of hours so I can clean my mil's house.

When was the last time your DH released? I'm sure O's close for you so keep testing. I was giving up hope & then today i had +opk so hang in there it's close. The only i'm bummed about is i wanted to time dtd as close to ovulation as possible but i dont know how it will all work out

[TTC5]

NO , he has left taking everything thing except of fish oil due to cholesterol , i discuss swaying with my ob and she said its ok if u r changing ur hormones but more imp is ur dh's health and sperms , healthy and more sperms favor boy, thats why we recommend men abstain for 4 days b4 giving sample for ivf just for more sperm count and u know ivf slightly has more boys than girls.
i dont know if she is right but i just wanna cover this chapter too :)

Interesting thanks for posting this!

[iluvmyman]

When was the last time your DH released? I'm sure O's close for you so keep testing. I was giving up hope & then today i had +opk so hang in there it's close. The only i'm bummed about is i wanted to time dtd as close to ovulation as possible but i dont know how it will all work out

On night of CD12 and this is CD15 for me. So, tonight s/b 36 hrs. Not a ton of CM for me either, but more today than yesterday and cervix is soft and ready. I should honestly wait till tomorrow morning but that's just hard to do and i have an early babysitting job. Not sure if I want to risk waiting till Thursday night. but is abstinence is a good time frame. No ph tester thought it broke.

Dude, baby I soooo feel where you are at right now. I'm with you. Just wanted it to be easy this time. I wonder how princess faired. I heard from lola about my quest and I guess it goes back to how you feel like you have to do your timing. Timing is supposed to be 1 of the least scientifically backed up, but we are all trying everything even if it doesn't. I don't think DTD tonight and tomorrow night would be the end of the world but it's so hard to make a final call and it's not black and white.

I am there, and I don't honestly know either. Some of the physical signs could be you wanted to get gussied up and feel pretty and pheramones for DH, right. Any of those coming into play? Hard to tell when we are stressed and planning for both partners. I was horny last night, may s/h just done it then.

[iluvmyman]

Hope all is ok x

It's supposed to be good just scary as this in so not normal for me and I'm not sure why this month w/b any different.

[TTC5]

Ok so thanks to everyone be so dang helpful I bought Ph testers, ovulation sticks and a basal thermometer. They should be here any day! I think my body so excited to start AF showed up at my door this morning like a week early WTF is that all about?? I wonder if it's because I have been doing this boot camp this and working out really hard trying get my fat ass to lose some weight before I start the boy diet? What do you think? anyway, I would Like to spend the next few months figuring all this ovulation and timing out so come Sept. I'm hoping "nail it on the head" pun intended! I just cant get over that Af came so early this month...what a B.

I remember getting all my tools in to gear, it is exciting hey ;)

[TTC5]

FWIW Iluv I typically have low pH still too ... I take comfort in how Atomic says pH has the least research supporting it, so I quit testing mine because it was constantly making me feel like nothing I was doing was helping since it always stayed the same!

Will you be using ew or pre seed and how about bs?

[TTC5]

that really makes sense . if its affect lasts for 4 hours then doing bsf 1 hour b4 bd is good enough ..... so if we have odds (supposed) at least 51% despite 50% with swaying then what will be this ratio if DH is 100% not on the board ???
i have just 2 months in TTC but DH became agree for # 3 in terms of no swaying :(
can i mix his supp in food or any other suggestions ??

What if you tell him to take a multi v and juices for "good strong sperm".....

[TTC5]

Good luck with your attempt this month, your Ph's great well done. Mine was 5 a few days ago, aaargh

I will be "egging" you on too lol x

[TTC5]

It's supposed to be good just scary as this in so not normal for me and I'm not sure why this month w/b any different.

Maybe tis a sign that it is a good cycle?!!

[iluvmyman]

Maybe tis a sign that it is a good cycle?!!

That's what i was told by lola and what I've read on google. Just weird. Gotta go clean for 4-5 hrs. Logging off for real this time. :)

[begonia]

Will you be using ew or pre seed and how about bs?

I'll do 1 bsd (1/2 tsp) AF-O, and I'll also do 1 BSF an hour before DTD. Definitely no EW, since DH isn't swaying I can only imagine his reaction to that :rofl:

Haven't decided on the pre-seed yet, but my thought is that I'll use it if my EWCM isn't cooperating. I bought some. DH wouldn't care at all about that.

Babydes, I typically get the MOST EWCM before I O, so it sounds like that is what is going on with you. If you get 2-3 days of +OPK I would DTD tonight and then again 48 hours later if your OPK is still +.

Light, my DH does take fish oil, vit D, zinc and a b-complex. Those are b/c his GP told him too, and it just works in my favor that they are boy friendly. He is awful about remembering though so I dose him up at dinner time. But diet wise he's always been more of a meat-and-potato guy, drinks a ton of juice, etc. So I'm really just not worried about him.

Iluv I have to say I would totally be freaked by the blood in the CM too, I get the nervousness with something new. But everything I've read points to it being a positive so at this point I really wouldn't worry; try to focus on it being a positive sign of a good strong cycle.

3PNB that link cracked me up :bigsmile: But I TOTALLY appreciate it!!

So I go to the gym now 2-3 days a week to lift weights, which I used to hate, and now I totally, completely look forward to doing it. How funny is that ... I used to do nothing but cardio, and now I barely do any. Bring on the :DS:

I love that there really is no TMI with our group :kiss:

[begonia]

I will be "egging" you on too lol x

OMG why have none of us said that before?!?! :rofl: Getting egged has a whole new meaning in my world now :bigsmile:

[babydes56]

I'll do 1 bsd (1/2 tsp) AF-O, and I'll also do 1 BSF an hour before DTD. Definitely no EW, since DH isn't swaying I can only imagine his reaction to that :rofl:

Haven't decided on the pre-seed yet, but my thought is that I'll use it if my EWCM isn't cooperating. I bought some. DH wouldn't care at all about that.

Babydes, I typically get the MOST EWCM before I O, so it sounds like that is what is going on with you. If you get 2-3 days of +OPK I would DTD tonight and then again 48 hours later if your OPK is still +.

Light, my DH does take fish oil, vit D, zinc and a b-complex. Those are b/c his GP told him too, and it just works in my favor that they are boy friendly. He is awful about remembering though so I dose him up at dinner time. But diet wise he's always been more of a meat-and-potato guy, drinks a ton of juice, etc. So I'm really just not worried about him.

Iluv I have to say I would totally be freaked by the blood in the CM too, I get the nervousness with something new. But everything I've read points to it being a positive so at this point I really wouldn't worry; try to focus on it being a positive sign of a good strong cycle.

3PNB that link cracked me up :bigsmile: But I TOTALLY appreciate it!!

So I go to the gym now 2-3 days a week to lift weights, which I used to hate, and now I totally, completely look forward to doing it. How funny is that ... I used to do nothing but cardio, and now I barely do any. Bring on the :DS:

I love that there really is no TMI with our group :kiss:

Thanks for advice, i'm going to go for it tonight!

[TTC5]

Thanks for advice, i'm going to go for it tonight!

Good Luck!!

[TTC5]

OMG why have none of us said that before?!?! :rofl: Getting egged has a whole new meaning in my world now :bigsmile:

:rofl:

[begonia]

FX for you Babydes!!!!!

[Tink18]

question: is there is sticky anywhere about smoking or alcohol? I am trying to figure out what this could do with the diet and when we go for our sway. I asked my Dh about it? He was no help. LOL anyone have any advice!

[3Pink1Blue]

Smoking lowers sperm count therefor swaying girl.

[TTC5]

I agree, my DH used to smoke!!

[iluvmyman]

question: is there is sticky anywhere about smoking or alcohol? I am trying to figure out what this could do with the diet and when we go for our sway. I asked my Dh about it? He was no help. LOL anyone have any advice!

Here is a thread where we talked about "special" cigs if you are interested
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?3169-the-boy-diet-and-gaining-weight/page6&highlight=special

It's talked about on different sticky's. I think alcohol sways girl but dark beer might be ok for guys....Cigs are bad and recommended to stop smoking during sway. My DH is a smoker and has been w/ both our boys so its not the end of the world but I'm sure better to stop. I've read just what 3PNB is saying but i can't pinpoint any out since I don't recall where exactly

[TTC5]

Are you girls taking notice of biorhythms/moon phase?

[iluvmyman]

Negative OPK still but was slightly pink earlier today. Totally confused and irritated. I'm tired and confused. WTH!!!! Did I miss it somehow. Only on CD15 but all other signs point to go. Whatever, I'm getting really done with this stuff right now but I'm exhausted and crabby, too....AND irritated!

[TTC5]

:( I hope you did not miss it, perhaps this test just gone the urine was just too diluted??

[ELP]

Negative OPK still but was slightly pink earlier today. Totally confused and irritated. I'm tired and confused. WTH!!!! Did I miss it somehow. Only on CD15 but all other signs point to go. Whatever, I'm getting really done with this stuff right now but I'm exhausted and crabby, too....AND irritated!
Mine always has a completely neg day before the positive day, I think it drops ready for the big surge so I'd guess it will be tomorrow or Sat for you :agree:

[babydes56]

Negative OPK still but was slightly pink earlier today. Totally confused and irritated. I'm tired and confused. WTH!!!! Did I miss it somehow. Only on CD15 but all other signs point to go. Whatever, I'm getting really done with this stuff right now but I'm exhausted and crabby, too....AND irritated!

I'm sure it will be + soon so keep testing. Are you not going to get dh to release soon, this was my worry & that's why i went for it last night

[babydes56]

So i dtd last night with preseed & a pinch of bs. When i tested the preseed before adding the bs it's ph was 6.5 so i'd suggest to those who are going to use it to add bs to raise it's ph. Am i the only one who doesnt enjoy rear entry, haha! My DH is 6"2 & well endowed & i'm only 5"3 so you can imagine how i love that position, NOT! Sorry tmi

[Plum3]

So i dtd last night with preseed & a pinch of bs. When i tested the preseed before adding the bs it's ph was 6.5 so i'd suggest to those who are going to use it to add bs to raise it's ph. Am i the only one who doesnt enjoy rear entry, haha! My DH is 6"2 & well endowed & i'm only 5"3 so you can imagine how i love that position, NOT! Sorry tmi

Haha, too funny. I'm not a fan of the position either. We've been practicing doggy style though.

Did you test the ph of the preseed after you added bs?

[TTC5]

So i dtd last night with preseed & a pinch of bs. When i tested the preseed before adding the bs it's ph was 6.5 so i'd suggest to those who are going to use it to add bs to raise it's ph. Am i the only one who doesnt enjoy rear entry, haha! My DH is 6"2 & well endowed & i'm only 5"3 so you can imagine how i love that position, NOT! Sorry tmi

I tested my pre seed and it was only JUST a 7 too maybe a touch less?? So you just add a small pinch? How can you be sure that a pinch is too much and will tip the pH too high :S that is my worry???
And yes lol I totally understand the doggy as my hubby is not a small man either and I am not very big ha!

[TTC5]

Oh and good luck!!! So you are now in the TWW!!!

[hope.ful]

Welcome Cemas! Glad to see you!

MFC I'm so sorry :-( I am kinda scared of the L'arg really screwing with things so I'm just going to take it 2-3 times a week.

Babydes I agree with others, DTD now, and then 12-24 hours after the OPK. If you've got some good EWCM I know Atomic says with a +opk or not, that's a good time to have an attempt.

Lola I'm sorry to hear about your dog! I thought at first you said 12 yo DD, and I was REALLY worried about you! Then my brain caught up. That said I adore my dog and know seeing her sick would be awful. Sounds like you have a whole lot on your plate right now lady. Good to see you though!

Hope.ful wait for that +! You'll feel so much better about your attempt I think. FX your fertility works for you this month! I know so many of us are used to one-shot-wonders and it seems swaying has definitely shaken that up a bit.

So I've had two days with the darker on one side and not on the other. Is that normal? Also, this morning, my temp went up .4 so I'm stressing thinking we should have BD'd last night. I hope we get a BFP this month...this is totally stressing me out!! Good luck to all the ladies swaying this month!!

[LolaInLove]

I love it! Smart move to O to get the preseed up there. Can't do that w/ Ew's since they'd just all fall out, but good move. TMI Warning all! I have never been able to have the big O w/o some hand held help mostly or a lot of work down there w/ me running the helm, but no internal O's ever. I've had a hard time w/ reaching the Big O when DH is paying attention. I wish it wasn't that way but I can't help it. We have rockin BD life, that's just hard for me. So adding the pressure to preform is tough. I ask him to leave the room after so I can have the Big O again in peace. I'm so ashamed but it is what it is. LOL! Better to reach the Big O alone then not at all, especially when it comes to Doing the baby dance!

You could TOTALLY do that with the ew! The first month I ttc and we used ew, I think I put WAY too much up there and it was just everywhere....I think we made an omelette between us in the bed, LOL. But, the other reason I go put it in then have an O (and I do it all sitting on the toilet....sexy, I know) is so that the excess comes out and there is just enough in there to help things along, and with the O, you know some got "sucked up" into your cervix where it needs to be. I think if you have too much it can be a hindrance to the sperm...like, instead of them getting in a pool to swim to the other end, they instead have to cross the Atlantic Ocean to get to the other end. I know I don't have 2ml of ew naturally anyway, why would you need that much?

[LolaInLove]

Goodness me i cant keep up with the chat today! I'll catch up with everyone tomorrow but just needed your advice about dtd tonight. DH hasnt released for 4 days today & i've finally got +opk on digital & it's really dark line. I usually get 2-3 days of +++opk, should i dtd tonight? Help!!

L, I just saw this....I hope you dtd last night, that is what I would have done!!!!

[LolaInLove]

Oh i also dont have much ewcm now, dont know why because i had some the last few days. My preseed has arrived to i plan to use that with a pinch of bs

Did you take Clomid this month? I'd use something, I know that med dries people up. Good idea!

[LolaInLove]

So i dtd last night with preseed & a pinch of bs. When i tested the preseed before adding the bs it's ph was 6.5 so i'd suggest to those who are going to use it to add bs to raise it's ph. Am i the only one who doesnt enjoy rear entry, haha! My DH is 6"2 & well endowed & i'm only 5"3 so you can imagine how i love that position, NOT! Sorry tmi

OH GOOD, I'm glad to went for it! LOL at your physical differences there....doggie does hurt if you have a, erm, larger fellow there. My preseed has a 7.5 ph, isn't that weird? I'm glad you used it though. I swear, I want us all to get a bfp soon, but I have to admit that if I could choose one of us to get one now, it would be you, Babydes....you've worked and waited a long time now, I know how that is. HUGE FX for you!!!!

[begonia]

OK weird that the preseed is different pH for everyone when it is supposed to be a 7.5! I'm thinking I won't use it ... I don't want to stress over that now too!

hope.ful when you say one line of your OPK is darker than the other do you mean the TEST line is darker, or the control line? Because if it is the control line that is still darkest wait for the test line to become darker than the control. I know it is tricky but the first time I finally got a + (I usually just used smileys) I was like, Ohhhhhhhh... so THAT's what it looks like! It will be noticeable when it is +!

iluv keep waiting it out, I guess! I know last O I didn't ever see a +OPK and it stressed me out, especially since we are trying this month. I don't know if I just didn't O (all the signs were there though, CP and TONS of CM) or if I somehow didn't POAS correctly and missed it. I got one that was pretty dark but not +, and I wonder if maybe that was it?? Because then they went white after that and never got remotely dark again.

DH and I go on vacay tomorrow! Hooray for holiday weekends without my kids :rofl: It's a shame I"m not ovulating now ... oh well, just hoping AF holds off til next week and doesn't creep into vacay time. BUT I will be offline til Tuesday so I hope everyone has great attempts if you're having one, and GREAT BFP's for our 2WWers :happy:

Jen I think you're the farthest along in the 2WW right now so when are you planning to test? Is it 6DPO today?

[LolaInLove]

OK, ladies, bear with me....I have several comments to make!

First of all, thank you for linking that website, Jen....LOOOOOOOVE it! That was helpful and a nice laugh first thing in the morning at my desk...I did not expect to see the computer animated humping there! And this leads me to commentary about women and orgasms in general....I do not know many girls that can have an O without helping themselves out while dtd. This kinda pisses me off! I think there needs to be a world-wide sex education class for men so they can learn WHAT THE HELL to do. Even if they are experienced, I don't think a lot of men get it. HELLO...I'm not going to O with you just ramming me with that thing. I'm about to school my DH for sure. He's fun and all, but I don't think he's had a woman ever sit him down and tell him what is up with the vag and how it works. I swear, they have to be taught. And I don't pity men, either...they can have an O without any special manipulation...something just has to be TOUCHING the weiner and it's all good. Sheesh. Ok, sex rant over.

About the preseed.....Iluv, where did you read that? Mildly alarmed now, and will be googling after I finish this. Honestly, many many m/c happen, like half of pregnancies end in m/c, so there is probably nothing that will "cause" it other than your sperm and eggs having chromosomal abnormalities that unfortunately come together and fail. I am going to research though. Probably just coincidences, but still going to look into it.

Iluv, not sure what is up with your cm....just try not to worry about it, it very well may be a good strong ovulation sign, or maybe your body is just releasing a little blood, or maybe one of the supps is causing it.

And on the supp note......I can say this with 100% confidence: SUPPLEMENTS CAUSE YOUR CYCLE TO BE WACK. If you take anything at all, just expect that something will be late or early or something. Not that it's bad, and I don't think anyone should not take supps unless they really mess you up and you get too freaked out about it, but just anticipate that you will ovulate in a different fashion, and stock up on opks and your other O tracking supplies and just be patient. If you don't O for some reason, then it is time to stop the supps, because that clearly is not going to help in any way get you pg with your boy! I just say all this because it does freak us out when we expect to O on the usual CD13-15 like we used to, then when you are swaying, you are into CD18+ with no +opk and start to freak. Especially with the timing and abstinence crap, it makes for one big ttc stressball. So, after many months of experience with this now (ugh), I say that it is best to just be patient and track it. It is darn near impossible to have everything fall perfectly into place, so you just gotta pick what you are willing to keep trying and what you just can't deal with. Remember ANYTHING you do that sways is indeed swaying...not a guarantee of a son if you sway mildly or hardcore anyway, but every little bit helps. But it will mess with your body, just expect it. You can really let swaying and ttc consume your life, which is ok if you end up getting pg within a few months, but becomes very hard when you go past 6 months, so I hope everyone sees what I am trying to say here....because I really do want everyone to get pg soon and not have to go through what Babydes and I (and a few others, I think) for the better part of the past year. Well, and I'm old, so that doesn't help. LOL

[SpicyTunaSushi]

So i dtd last night with preseed & a pinch of bs. When i tested the preseed before adding the bs it's ph was 6.5 so i'd suggest to those who are going to use it to add bs to raise it's ph. Am i the only one who doesnt enjoy rear entry, haha! My DH is 6"2 & well endowed & i'm only 5"3 so you can imagine how i love that position, NOT! Sorry tmi

Yikes! Yes, I can't do it. And if some of our DH's are big, then doing missionary style hits my cervix and is deep enough, thank you very much. I just can't do it, it hurts too much. I am pretty confident that he is deep enough!

[LolaInLove]

B, maybe you didn't O, that is normal to skip every once and a while, I think. Maybe the supps though? Man, it is not fair how some women become super ovulating baby-making machines on the supps and some of us make our ovaries go hide in a cave.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

You could TOTALLY do that with the ew! The first month I ttc and we used ew, I think I put WAY too much up there and it was just everywhere....I think we made an omelette between us in the bed, LOL. But, the other reason I go put it in then have an O (and I do it all sitting on the toilet....sexy, I know) is so that the excess comes out and there is just enough in there to help things along, and with the O, you know some got "sucked up" into your cervix where it needs to be. I think if you have too much it can be a hindrance to the sperm...like, instead of them getting in a pool to swim to the other end, they instead have to cross the Atlantic Ocean to get to the other end. I know I don't have 2ml of ew naturally anyway, why would you need that much?

Sorry to hear that! My DH is all about giving me O's, even when I don't want them. I guess that is a good thing.

And Q: I know we are supposed to O before DH to get alkaline out, but the suction motion of the O is so valuable and strong, that I think it is better to O right after him. It sucks the sperm in and gives it ahead start. Plus, all of that alkaline fluid might give it extra fuel for the trip. Just my 2 cents....

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Are you girls taking notice of biorhythms/moon phase?

I am always in the New Moon- every month :mad:, so I just use an electric blanket on low. Oddly, it doesn't affect my temps.

[begonia]

B, maybe you didn't O, that is normal to skip every once and a while, I think. Maybe the supps though? Man, it is not fair how some women become super ovulating baby-making machines on the supps and some of us make our ovaries go hide in a cave.

LOL! For real about the ovaries hiding in a cave :rofl:

[begonia]

I am always in the New Moon- every month :mad:, so I just use an electric blanket on low. Oddly, it doesn't affect my temps.

One of my DD's was conceived full moon, so I'm sorta what-eva about moon phases... I think it might impact some people but not others.

[LolaInLove]

Sorry to hear that! My DH is all about giving me O's, even when I don't want them. I guess that is a good thing.

And Q: I know we are supposed to O before DH to get alkaline out, but the suction motion of the O is so valuable and strong, that I think it is better to O right after him. It sucks the sperm in and gives it ahead start. Plus, all of that alkaline fluid might give it extra fuel for the trip. Just my 2 cents....

It is a good thing....my DH can, but he is not as good and experimental with it as I'd like. The guy I dated before him kinda set the bar really high for me, I think.:suprise:

And yes, you are right....it would be ideal, actually, to have one before AND after!

[gizmo77]

OK, ladies, bear with me....I have several comments to make!

First of all, thank you for linking that website, Jen....LOOOOOOOVE it! That was helpful and a nice laugh first thing in the morning at my desk...I did not expect to see the computer animated humping there! And this leads me to commentary about women and orgasms in general....I do not know many girls that can have an O without helping themselves out while dtd. This kinda pisses me off! I think there needs to be a world-wide sex education class for men so they can learn WHAT THE HELL to do. Even if they are experienced, I don't think a lot of men get it. HELLO...I'm not going to O with you just ramming me with that thing. I'm about to school my DH for sure. He's fun and all, but I don't think he's had a woman ever sit him down and tell him what is up with the vag and how it works. I swear, they have to be taught. And I don't pity men, either...they can have an O without any special manipulation...something just has to be TOUCHING the weiner and it's all good. Sheesh. Ok, sex rant over.

About the preseed.....Iluv, where did you read that? Mildly alarmed now, and will be googling after I finish this. Honestly, many many m/c happen, like half of pregnancies end in m/c, so there is probably nothing that will "cause" it other than your sperm and eggs having chromosomal abnormalities that unfortunately come together and fail. I am going to research though. Probably just coincidences, but still going to look into it.

Iluv, not sure what is up with your cm....just try not to worry about it, it very well may be a good strong ovulation sign, or maybe your body is just releasing a little blood, or maybe one of the supps is causing it.

And on the supp note......I can say this with 100% confidence: SUPPLEMENTS CAUSE YOUR CYCLE TO BE WACK. If you take anything at all, just expect that something will be late or early or something. Not that it's bad, and I don't think anyone should not take supps unless they really mess you up and you get too freaked out about it, but just anticipate that you will ovulate in a different fashion, and stock up on opks and your other O tracking supplies and just be patient. If you don't O for some reason, then it is time to stop the supps, because that clearly is not going to help in any way get you pg with your boy! I just say all this because it does freak us out when we expect to O on the usual CD13-15 like we used to, then when you are swaying, you are into CD18+ with no +opk and start to freak. Especially with the timing and abstinence crap, it makes for one big ttc stressball. So, after many months of experience with this now (ugh), I say that it is best to just be patient and track it. It is darn near impossible to have everything fall perfectly into place, so you just gotta pick what you are willing to keep trying and what you just can't deal with. Remember ANYTHING you do that sways is indeed swaying...not a guarantee of a son if you sway mildly or hardcore anyway, but every little bit helps. But it will mess with your body, just expect it. You can really let swaying and ttc consume your life, which is ok if you end up getting pg within a few months, but becomes very hard when you go past 6 months, so I hope everyone sees what I am trying to say here....because I really do want everyone to get pg soon and not have to go through what Babydes and I (and a few others, I think) for the better part of the past year. Well, and I'm old, so that doesn't help. LOL

well said (about supps). but see now that im charting and getting to know and predict my cycles..id HATE to have to start from square one!! but at the same time i have to see if ther supps work for me. i think the key is MODERATION.

[3Pink1Blue]

begonia - I've had to many evaps and faint lines over the last few months so I'm not testing till 14 dpo. My standard lp is 11-13 days so by then I'm officially late and can trust what ever that evil little stick tells me. So Friday, nah I'll wait till Saturday the 4th when dh will be home. Have fun on your trip!!

Baby - I don't like doggy either, if dh gets carried away it can really hurt. The position I posted gives me control over the angle and he can go to town lol

Lola - glad you liked the link, made me giggle too. It took a few sit downs but my dh has me all figured out now, he better after 15 years right. He has g spot precision but no matter what I can't O without my help. I feel bad for couple's who believe that some woman just can't O or won't experiment to figure it out. My buddy won't touch "down there" as she calls it and her dh has never released a little tension either, its the standard way for them and surprise, surprise she's never had an orgasm.

Spicy - I guess I'm lucky, I get one before and usually a simultaneous. Since we are not using any lube by then I'm pretty much done lol

spicy and begonia - I'm done playing the ion game. I should have three boys if computers, moons and electric blankets played a big role. I truly believe it's 90% about the diet.

[iluvmyman]

I tested my pre seed and it was only JUST a 7 too maybe a touch less?? So you just add a small pinch? How can you be sure that a pinch is too much and will tip the pH too high :S that is my worry???
And yes lol I totally understand the doggy as my hubby is not a small man either and I am not very big ha!

If BS has a PH of 8, that's as high as it can make the pre-seed, right? Just curious.

[iluvmyman]

I'm sure it will be + soon so keep testing. Are you not going to get dh to release soon, this was my worry & that's why i went for it last night

I've never experienced O bleeding before but seems to be very close to the beginning of my normal AF. That would be way too early but has happened I think 2 cycles ago. If it's the case, then I'm going to have a good cry and go off of the fertilecm and maybe even green tea and just somewhat go back to normal. We've never had problems like this before and haven't been happy with my CM the last couple of cycles but keep 2nd guessing myself. That's DH's thoughts as well. I don't want this to go on for 6 months. Fertile Focus showed like 2 very tiny ferning circles but not anything like it would be in transition or fertile period so I'm blowing that off. I don't expect a + opk today but I might post back w/ egg on my face. This is just too emotional for me to be rational.

OPK just a minute ago had a light pink line again (similar line and time as yesterday) but it might just be 2nd morning urine being too concentrated and messing w/ the O strip. will try again this afternoon. CP seems higher and no CM this morning but some stretchy cm after mucinex.

DH released on CD12 and this is CD16 so we might do it tonight regardless. We were both so exhausted last night we crashed.

[iluvmyman]

So i dtd last night with preseed & a pinch of bs. When i tested the preseed before adding the bs it's ph was 6.5 so i'd suggest to those who are going to use it to add bs to raise it's ph. Am i the only one who doesnt enjoy rear entry, haha! My DH is 6"2 & well endowed & i'm only 5"3 so you can imagine how i love that position, NOT! Sorry tmi

LOL! yes, it can hurt you just have to adjust the height of your shoulders and hips till you hit the sweet spot. Keep the front of your body and chest low, hips high. I like it when I just need a good pounding or when I need DH to finish up. He did figure out a few years ago that it was my trick to get him to finish. :)

I'm glad it went well for you. Someone needs a BFP.

[iluvmyman]

Mine always has a completely neg day before the positive day, I think it drops ready for the big surge so I'd guess it will be tomorrow or Sat for you :agree:

Thanks ELP. Sorry, I was soooo tired after cleaning my MIL's and disappointed last night and I was having a 2 year old temper tantrum. :) I will just be so dissapointed if no chance this month. I know I'm stressing a little soon but the bleeding is throwing me off and not good CM and last cycle was perfect and right on time in every way. I expected this month to be really easy. Oh well, I know there's still hope and I don't want to be a negative Nancy but I'm getting really ancy.

[iluvmyman]

You could TOTALLY do that with the ew! The first month I ttc and we used ew, I think I put WAY too much up there and it was just everywhere....I think we made an omelette between us in the bed, LOL. But, the other reason I go put it in then have an O (and I do it all sitting on the toilet....sexy, I know) is so that the excess comes out and there is just enough in there to help things along, and with the O, you know some got "sucked up" into your cervix where it needs to be. I think if you have too much it can be a hindrance to the sperm...like, instead of them getting in a pool to swim to the other end, they instead have to cross the Atlantic Ocean to get to the other end. I know I don't have 2ml of ew naturally anyway, why would you need that much?

Too funny Lola, I needed a good laugh this morning. I posted about being a total moron the 1st time w/ ew's, crazy man. I do it in bed on a towel. I could never reach an O sitting on the toilet. I have to be laying down but that's awesome. I figured it would all fall out but I guess you are right and there might be just enough to get sucked up then you could put more in just before DTD if you really felt the need. I'll have to give it a shot if I get the chance tonight or I'm taking the chance I guess. FX but not hopeful. It would sure be nice if I could test my ew's ph though. Oh well! I read 5 ml??? and you're right about the ocean. True that girl. Thanks for being her Lola and helping us out when you are dealing w/ your own stuff. I really appreciate your experience and advice.

[iluvmyman]

OK weird that the preseed is different pH for everyone when it is supposed to be a 7.5! I'm thinking I won't use it ... I don't want to stress over that now too!

hope.ful when you say one line of your OPK is darker than the other do you mean the TEST line is darker, or the control line? Because if it is the control line that is still darkest wait for the test line to become darker than the control. I know it is tricky but the first time I finally got a + (I usually just used smileys) I was like, Ohhhhhhhh... so THAT's what it looks like! It will be noticeable when it is +!

iluv keep waiting it out, I guess! I know last O I didn't ever see a +OPK and it stressed me out, especially since we are trying this month. I don't know if I just didn't O (all the signs were there though, CP and TONS of CM) or if I somehow didn't POAS correctly and missed it. I got one that was pretty dark but not +, and I wonder if maybe that was it?? Because then they went white after that and never got remotely dark again.

DH and I go on vacay tomorrow! Hooray for holiday weekends without my kids :rofl: It's a shame I"m not ovulating now ... oh well, just hoping AF holds off til next week and doesn't creep into vacay time. BUT I will be offline til Tuesday so I hope everyone has great attempts if you're having one, and GREAT BFP's for our 2WWers :happy:

Jen I think you're the farthest along in the 2WW right now so when are you planning to test? Is it 6DPO today?

I really really like having the digital smiley OPK to confirm. Did you do that w/ the really dark line. I've been taking OPK's so shouldn't have missed it but I have to wonder last cycle was right on and I didn't change anything.

Have fun on vacay, so jealous!!!

[iluvmyman]

OH GOOD, I'm glad to went for it! LOL at your physical differences there....doggie does hurt if you have a, erm, larger fellow there. My preseed has a 7.5 ph, isn't that weird? I'm glad you used it though. I swear, I want us all to get a bfp soon, but I have to admit that if I could choose one of us to get one now, it would be you, Babydes....you've worked and waited a long time now, I know how that is. HUGE FX for you!!!!

I have to say that I'm feeling very good BFP vibes from you baby. I wouldn't be surprised if this is your month. GL to you!

[iluvmyman]

OK, ladies, bear with me....I have several comments to make!

Thanks Lola!

RE: Big O. I think it's me and it just takes Forever! I've only been w/ DH so I have no other experience, although, he did when he was being a horribly naughty young man and as far as I heard he didn't have any problems w/ at least some of the "other" women, so I think it's just hard for me. That being said, we have a wonderful Se* life I just have to go w/o or help a lot. School those boys away though I would love it if there was really some trick or sweet spot he could find.

I wish I could help the stress but this stuff is so emotional and to think about doing all this work for a BFN or missing O all together is....well it makes me cry. I'm old and I don't have tons of time to mess around. I wondering If I really just want to get pregnant at all right now and hope for the best. If no cycle this month I will re-evaluate what I'm taking. Or I have been whineing for nothing and will get a BFP.

Hats off to those of you doing this for any longer than a couple of months. That's a tough road and I'm sorry.

Thanks for the calm re-adjust Lola and I will try to be calm. I need to start my Yoga classes again. :)

[iluvmyman]

It is a good thing....my DH can, but he is not as good and experimental with it as I'd like. The guy I dated before him kinda set the bar really high for me, I think.:suprise:

And yes, you are right....it would be ideal, actually, to have one before AND after!

I help myself before and after too. Just should maybe do the before w/ the EW's first.

[hope.ful]

OK weird that the preseed is different pH for everyone when it is supposed to be a 7.5! I'm thinking I won't use it ... I don't want to stress over that now too!

hope.ful when you say one line of your OPK is darker than the other do you mean the TEST line is darker, or the control line? Because if it is the control line that is still darkest wait for the test line to become darker than the control. I know it is tricky but the first time I finally got a + (I usually just used smileys) I was like, Ohhhhhhhh... so THAT's what it looks like! It will be noticeable when it is +!

iluv keep waiting it out, I guess! I know last O I didn't ever see a +OPK and it stressed me out, especially since we are trying this month. I don't know if I just didn't O (all the signs were there though, CP and TONS of CM) or if I somehow didn't POAS correctly and missed it. I got one that was pretty dark but not +, and I wonder if maybe that was it?? Because then they went white after that and never got remotely dark again.

DH and I go on vacay tomorrow! Hooray for holiday weekends without my kids :rofl: It's a shame I"m not ovulating now ... oh well, just hoping AF holds off til next week and doesn't creep into vacay time. BUT I will be offline til Tuesday so I hope everyone has great attempts if you're having one, and GREAT BFP's for our 2WWers :happy:

Jen I think you're the farthest along in the 2WW right now so when are you planning to test? Is it 6DPO today?

I mean that on one side of the test line, it's as dark as the control, and the other side is lighter, so I'm interpreting that as an 'almost' but it's been like that for 2.5 days, so I'm wondering if that was my + and I just missed it! Does anyone have the test line actually be darker than the control line??

[LolaInLove]

I mean that on one side of the test line, it's as dark as the control, and the other side is lighter, so I'm interpreting that as an 'almost' but it's been like that for 2.5 days, so I'm wondering if that was my + and I just missed it! Does anyone have the test line actually be darker than the control line??

Yes, when mine are truly +, the test line is way darker. It has to be just AS dark as the test line, though....I've had mine be as dark as the line at like noon, and then darker at 4-6pm. It is confusing, but just go with the first test that is truly AS DARK AS the control line.

[LolaInLove]

SO LISTEN TO THIS BULLSHIT: my ex-dh's wife is pregnant, and due when I would have been. OF COURSE she is. Jeez, life is full of surprises, no?

[LolaInLove]

well said (about supps). but see now that im charting and getting to know and predict my cycles..id HATE to have to start from square one!! but at the same time i have to see if ther supps work for me. i think the key is MODERATION.

Just add some and see what happens. That's why it is good to give it a few months to experiement before you ttc. And you know what, I truly don't have a problem taking whatever I feel I should and just tracking O with a big load of opks...it's just now that it's old hat, I don't stress about it much anymore. I figure I will O anytime between CD11-18, as my history has shown. But, I also don't worry about the timing with DH and all, because that, plus tracking O, was a nightmare for a while. I was convinced that only the clairvoyant or wizards could do this swaying thing the right way.

[LolaInLove]

Thanks, ILuv....I wish I wasn't such a long timer, but hey....I've been doing this for a while so I hope my laid back attitude about it doesn't offend anyone....I just have seen enough successes and failures from all sorts of sways that I really think it is just a crapshoot, but it all makes us feel like we are doing something to up our blue odds, and that's better than nothing. But there have been a ton of successful sways lately! And really, no sweet healthy baby is ever a failure. I just want one of those. I'd even take an androgynous Storm baby at this point. LOL

[hope.ful]

Yes, when mine are truly +, the test line is way darker. It has to be just AS dark as the test line, though....I've had mine be as dark as the line at like noon, and then darker at 4-6pm. It is confusing, but just go with the first test that is truly AS DARK AS the control line.

Hmm...ok I hope that's the case for me, too. Is it normal to test 'almost' for 2.5 days, and does it switch over pretty quickly after that? I am just soo afraid with my temp increasing this morning, that we missed it last night. But my body has been moving at turtle speed this month. I quit the mucinex bc we have been frequent BDing this month (like every other day) in hopes that will work in our favor, and of course we didn't the last two nights, and I get a temp rise today! I'm afraid if I keep taking the Mucinex that I will m/c because of it but all that to say I have almost no CM so it's hard to know if it's even switched. How do you ladies test with OPK's and drink 60 oz water? I wait 2 hours after drinking anything to test and my pee is still only nearly yellow!

[LolaInLove]

Hmm...ok I hope that's the case for me, too. Is it normal to test 'almost' for 2.5 days, and does it switch over pretty quickly after that? I am just soo afraid with my temp increasing this morning, that we missed it last night. But my body has been moving at turtle speed this month. I quit the mucinex bc we have been frequent BDing this month (like every other day) in hopes that will work in our favor, and of course we didn't the last two nights, and I get a temp rise today! I'm afraid if I keep taking the Mucinex that I will m/c because of it but all that to say I have almost no CM so it's hard to know if it's even switched. How do you ladies test with OPK's and drink 60 oz water? I wait 2 hours after drinking anything to test and my pee is still only nearly yellow!

Well, I usually have a few days of "fade-ins", like almost positive for at least 2 of those days, then all of the sudden, it is way positive. And occasionally, it gets LESS positive before it actually turns +. Like, 75% one day, then 75% the next day, then 50% the 3rd, them bam, 100% positive. I just test a lot, and I try not to drink too much, but I don't not drink anything, just try not to say, chug or anything.

[babydes56]

OH GOOD, I'm glad to went for it! LOL at your physical differences there....doggie does hurt if you have a, erm, larger fellow there. My preseed has a 7.5 ph, isn't that weird? I'm glad you used it though. I swear, I want us all to get a bfp soon, but I have to admit that if I could choose one of us to get one now, it would be you, Babydes....you've worked and waited a long time now, I know how that is. HUGE FX for you!!!!

Awww that's sweet of you to say that! I had 2 lots of ph strips & on the phion strips the ph of the preseed was 6.5/8 & on the johnson one it was 7

[hope.ful]

Well, I usually have a few days of "fade-ins", like almost positive for at least 2 of those days, then all of the sudden, it is way positive. And occasionally, it gets LESS positive before it actually turns +. Like, 75% one day, then 75% the next day, then 50% the 3rd, them bam, 100% positive. I just test a lot, and I try not to drink too much, but I don't not drink anything, just try not to say, chug or anything.

Oh my goodness, thanks so much for the quick reply. I have been stewing over this all day. Thanks for the encouragement!
All in His Hands,
Stacy

[iluvmyman]

SO LISTEN TO THIS BULLSHIT: my ex-dh's wife is pregnant, and due when I would have been. OF COURSE she is. Jeez, life is full of surprises, no?

NO!! Oh Lola!!!! That's some BS! You win, I will complain no more today. Augh!

[iluvmyman]

I mean that on one side of the test line, it's as dark as the control, and the other side is lighter, so I'm interpreting that as an 'almost' but it's been like that for 2.5 days, so I'm wondering if that was my + and I just missed it! Does anyone have the test line actually be darker than the control line??

I like to have some more expensive digital ones on hand in case of confusion or confirmation.

[babydes56]

SO LISTEN TO THIS BULLSHIT: my ex-dh's wife is pregnant, and due when I would have been. OF COURSE she is. Jeez, life is full of surprises, no?

How do you feel about it? By the way how's the dieting going? Also what's your plan for the next few months? I love your relaxed attitude about swaying, i am much more relaxed than when i started

[iluvmyman]

Thanks, ILuv....I wish I wasn't such a long timer, but hey....I've been doing this for a while so I hope my laid back attitude about it doesn't offend anyone....I just have seen enough successes and failures from all sorts of sways that I really think it is just a crapshoot, but it all makes us feel like we are doing something to up our blue odds, and that's better than nothing. But there have been a ton of successful sways lately! And really, no sweet healthy baby is ever a failure. I just want one of those. I'd even take an androgynous Storm baby at this point. LOL

A serious AMEN to that! thanks girl!

[babydes56]

LOL! yes, it can hurt you just have to adjust the height of your shoulders and hips till you hit the sweet spot. Keep the front of your body and chest low, hips high. I like it when I just need a good pounding or when I need DH to finish up. He did figure out a few years ago that it was my trick to get him to finish. :)

I'm glad it went well for you. Someone needs a BFP.

Loool, i've done all the above but no can do! I think all men love doggy style, they'll be checking that ass, smacking it & giving you a good pounding

[iluvmyman]

Loool, i've done all the above but no can do! I think all men love doggy style, they'll be checking that ass, smacking it & giving you a good pounding

LOL! Oh yeah! Somethin 'bout that a$$. He does like my new and not improved cushin for the pushin

[babydes56]

LOL! Oh yeah! Somethin 'bout that a$$. He does like my new and not improved cushin for the pushin

Too funny! What have you decided for tonight, are you going for it? My temp hadnt risen this morning so i'm hoping it's the same tomorrow so i can dtd again tomorrow. Havent felt strong ovulation pain either just mild cramps here & there so i'm sure ovulation will be tomorrow which would be ideal 48hrs

[iluvmyman]

Too funny! What have you decided for tonight, are you going for it? My temp hadnt risen this morning so i'm hoping it's the same tomorrow so i can dtd again tomorrow. Havent felt strong ovulation pain either just mild cramps here & there so i'm sure ovulation will be tomorrow which would be ideal 48hrs

I think we might. Tonight will be 4 days abstained and I just did another opk and it's negative. So I've learned I can't use 2nd morning urine either to test. I really am not sure. I'm still hoping to see a + opk before DTD but most likely tonight either way and then 48 hrs later. Idk, I'm in denial yet still hopeful. Still bleeding.....augh...but I'm not whinning, Lola! :)

[babydes56]

Is it a lot of blood, i wonder what could be causing it? Well i've just done opk & it's negative...this is the first for me. I usually have 2-3days +++, weird. I can only hope that last night wasnt too late

[iluvmyman]

Is it a lot of blood, i wonder what could be causing it? Well i've just done opk & it's negative...this is the first for me. I usually have 2-3days +++, weird. I can only hope that last night wasnt too late

I forget, did you have any + opk's this cycle at all? It could be Ovulation blood still but I'm not sure. if it's super heavy tomorrow then AF came early. If I get a + opk tomorrow then O blood. O blood is supposed to be like 2-3 days prior to O and indicates strong O. I read up on it but I forgot all the technical stuff already. I've been taking OPK's since CD11 but I only once a day so I suppose I could've missed it, or just late, or just no happening at all and my cycle is changing again. I'll have to wait till tomorrow I guess but will take another OPK this evening and before bed I think. DTD anyway tonight.....yeah....that's what we will do. :)

[TTC5]

I forget, did you have any + opk's this cycle at all? It could be Ovulation blood still but I'm not sure. if it's super heavy tomorrow then AF came early. If I get a + opk tomorrow then O blood. O blood is supposed to be like 2-3 days prior to O and indicates strong O. I read up on it but I forgot all the technical stuff already. I've been taking OPK's since CD11 but I only once a day so I suppose I could've missed it, or just late, or just no happening at all and my cycle is changing again. I'll have to wait till tomorrow I guess but will take another OPK this evening and before bed I think. DTD anyway tonight.....yeah....that's what we will do. :)

Last night when I was checking my cm and cervix I noticed I had creamy like cm tinged with brown? Could this be pre O spotting or just old left over blood from AF? I was CD 7.

[TTC5]

I think we might. Tonight will be 4 days abstained and I just did another opk and it's negative. So I've learned I can't use 2nd morning urine either to test. I really am not sure. I'm still hoping to see a + opk before DTD but most likely tonight either way and then 48 hrs later. Idk, I'm in denial yet still hopeful. Still bleeding.....augh...but I'm not whinning, Lola! :)

Is there any chance you could be pregnant now? :S

[TTC5]

Too funny! What have you decided for tonight, are you going for it? My temp hadnt risen this morning so i'm hoping it's the same tomorrow so i can dtd again tomorrow. Havent felt strong ovulation pain either just mild cramps here & there so i'm sure ovulation will be tomorrow which would be ideal 48hrs

FX!!

[TTC5]

Loool, i've done all the above but no can do! I think all men love doggy style, they'll be checking that ass, smacking it & giving you a good pounding

:rofl::rofl:

[TTC5]

I like to have some more expensive digital ones on hand in case of confusion or confirmation.

I am getting some of those today, which do you recommend?

[TTC5]

I mean that on one side of the test line, it's as dark as the control, and the other side is lighter, so I'm interpreting that as an 'almost' but it's been like that for 2.5 days, so I'm wondering if that was my + and I just missed it! Does anyone have the test line actually be darker than the control line??

Mine are always darker.

[TTC5]

SO LISTEN TO THIS BULLSHIT: my ex-dh's wife is pregnant, and due when I would have been. OF COURSE she is. Jeez, life is full of surprises, no?

Oh god just what you need... not!

[TTC5]

Thanks, ILuv....I wish I wasn't such a long timer, but hey....I've been doing this for a while so I hope my laid back attitude about it doesn't offend anyone....I just have seen enough successes and failures from all sorts of sways that I really think it is just a crapshoot, but it all makes us feel like we are doing something to up our blue odds, and that's better than nothing. But there have been a ton of successful sways lately! And really, no sweet healthy baby is ever a failure. I just want one of those. I'd even take an androgynous Storm baby at this point. LOL

So so true you put it in perspective right there Lola!

[babydes56]

I forget, did you have any + opk's this cycle at all? It could be Ovulation blood still but I'm not sure. if it's super heavy tomorrow then AF came early. If I get a + opk tomorrow then O blood. O blood is supposed to be like 2-3 days prior to O and indicates strong O. I read up on it but I forgot all the technical stuff already. I've been taking OPK's since CD11 but I only once a day so I suppose I could've missed it, or just late, or just no happening at all and my cycle is changing again. I'll have to wait till tomorrow I guess but will take another OPK this evening and before bed I think. DTD anyway tonight.....yeah....that's what we will do. :)

Yes i had a +opk last night but - this evening. Good luck for tonight!

[babydes56]

I am getting some of those today, which do you recommend?

I use clearblue digital

[TTC5]

begonia - I've had to many evaps and faint lines over the last few months so I'm not testing till 14 dpo. My standard lp is 11-13 days so by then I'm officially late and can trust what ever that evil little stick tells me. So Friday, nah I'll wait till Saturday the 4th when dh will be home. Have fun on your trip!!

Baby - I don't like doggy either, if dh gets carried away it can really hurt. The position I posted gives me control over the angle and he can go to town lol

Lola - glad you liked the link, made me giggle too. It took a few sit downs but my dh has me all figured out now, he better after 15 years right. He has g spot precision but no matter what I can't O without my help. I feel bad for couple's who believe that some woman just can't O or won't experiment to figure it out. My buddy won't touch "down there" as she calls it and her dh has never released a little tension either, its the standard way for them and surprise, surprise she's never had an orgasm.

Spicy - I guess I'm lucky, I get one before and usually a simultaneous. Since we are not using any lube by then I'm pretty much done lol

spicy and begonia - I'm done playing the ion game. I should have three boys if computers, moons and electric blankets played a big role. I truly believe it's 90% about the diet.

This is so me =( DH tells me he wants to watch but I just can't do it... any advice? =(

[babydes56]

Last night when I was checking my cm and cervix I noticed I had creamy like cm tinged with brown? Could this be pre O spotting or just old left over blood from AF? I was CD 7.

I would think old blood left over from AF but i could be wrong.

[TTC5]

I use clearblue digital

Are they these smiley ones?

[TTC5]

I am always in the New Moon- every month :mad:, so I just use an electric blanket on low. Oddly, it doesn't affect my temps.

Yep same here it has not affected my temp either :)

I am having strangely low temps this cycle???

[hope.ful]

CRAP CRAP CRAP...my CM just turned...that 'almost' positive line apparently was my positive! I'm so bummed! We DTD O-3 so would you ladies do the BD tonight, just hope the O-3 did the trick?? According to Shettles, O-3 is the girl zone. What would you do??

[3Pink1Blue]

This is so me =( DH tells me he wants to watch but I just can't do it... any advice? =(

Wants to watch you O by yourself or watch you getting involved while dtd? I don't like to be watched O'ing on my own, feels pervy. Dh loves the idea of it so we tried it once and it felt icky, I'm so not a voyeur lol

hope.ful - by turned you mean creamy? I wouldn't risk it if it's creamy. If I get an almost + I test again in about 4 hrs and another 4 hrs till get a solid +, I'm kinda a poas psycho lol

[TTC5]

I would think old blood left over from AF but i could be wrong.

I thought so too.

[TTC5]

Wants to watch you O by yourself or watch you getting involved while dtd? I don't like to be watched O'ing on my own, feels pervy. Dh loves the idea of it so we tried it once and it felt icky, I'm so not a voyeur lol

hope.ful - by turned you mean creamy? I wouldn't risk it if it's creamy. If I get an almost + I test again in about 4 hrs and another 4 hrs till get a solid +, I'm kinda a poas psycho lol

Yes wants to watch it all haha and I am the same =(

[TTC5]

CRAP CRAP CRAP...my CM just turned...that 'almost' positive line apparently was my positive! I'm so bummed! We DTD O-3 so would you ladies do the BD tonight, just hope the O-3 did the trick?? According to Shettles, O-3 is the girl zone. What would you do??

I prob would not go tonight, to not risk 0+12...

[iluvmyman]

I am getting some of those today, which do you recommend?

I use Clear Blue Easy Digial Ovulation Test

[iluvmyman]

Are they these smiley ones?

Yes

[3Pink1Blue]

Yes wants to watch it all haha and I am the same =(

Since it creeps me out when he watches me I tend to keep my eyes off him. It may sound sad but it allows me to really focus on the pleasure while he gets the show he wants, it's a win/win.

[TTC5]

Yes

DH went to the shops and chemist and said he could not find any opk's :S

[TTC5]

Since it creeps me out when he watches me I tend to keep my eyes off him. It may sound sad but it allows me to really focus on the pleasure while he gets the show he wants, it's a win/win.

Do you find that helps though, it would still be on my mind coz I just know he is watching, lol.

[princessap]

Hry girls
Things have been busy here so sorry I havent been around. You girls are chatty!! Love it.
Our attempt is over and now we wait. I dont have a great feeling already. I am a little crampy today and maybe that means AF will show up this month.

Lola. how r things?? are u attempting or waiting? I understand why you are so relaxed about the swaying. I think we get what we get and try to sway to feel like we tried something. We have been trying since March 2010 with an early mc and loss at 14 weeks in there. Somedays I feel like i will never have another baby and I dont know what I would do if that were true.

Iluv, how r things. when did u attempt? Hope we each get bfp soon!!

[iluvmyman]

Last night when I was checking my cm and cervix I noticed I had creamy like cm tinged with brown? Could this be pre O spotting or just old left over blood from AF? I was CD 7.

I have no idea. I assume left over since O blood is supposed to be no more than 2-3 days before O.

[TTC5]

Hry girls
Things have been busy here so sorry I havent been around. You girls are chatty!! Love it.
Our attempt is over and now we wait. I dont have a great feeling already. I am a little crampy today and maybe that means AF will show up this month.

Lola. how r things?? are u attempting or waiting? I understand why you are so relaxed about the swaying. I think we get what we get and try to sway to feel like we tried something. We have been trying since March 2010 with an early mc and loss at 14 weeks in there. Somedays I feel like i will never have another baby and I dont know what I would do if that were true.

Iluv, how r things. when did u attempt? Hope we each get bfp soon!!

FX for you xoxoxoxo

[iluvmyman]

Is there any chance you could be pregnant now? :S

I don't think so. I took a pregnancy test a few days ago and it was negative just to be sure since I was crazy hormonal for 3 weeks and AF was short 2 days so just different but no prego.

[iluvmyman]

Yes wants to watch it all haha and I am the same =(

I say just give it a try with him or have him kiss your neck while you do it.....like not totally paying attention or maybe have him be doing s-o-m-ething down there and you just sort of, you know, help. No harm in trying.

[iluvmyman]

DH went to the shops and chemist and said he could not find any opk's :S

LOL! I think that's just cuz he's a man. I'm sure they must've had some and I doubt he would go and ask for help! :)

[iluvmyman]

Hry girls
Things have been busy here so sorry I havent been around. You girls are chatty!! Love it.
Our attempt is over and now we wait. I dont have a great feeling already. I am a little crampy today and maybe that means AF will show up this month.

Lola. how r things?? are u attempting or waiting? I understand why you are so relaxed about the swaying. I think we get what we get and try to sway to feel like we tried something. We have been trying since March 2010 with an early mc and loss at 14 weeks in there. Somedays I feel like i will never have another baby and I dont know what I would do if that were true.

Iluv, how r things. when did u attempt? Hope we each get bfp soon!!

I sure hope you get a BFP, we need to stick together, here. :)

I've posted way too much so I'll give you a quicky. :) Things are very different this cycle. Suspected O bleeding yesterday and today (CD15 & CD16) or starting AF 2 weeks early. Today is CD16 and no + opk's yet. Not sure if I missed it or it didn't come or hasn't come yet. Last cycle was clockwork as far as CD's so I'm really tripping and have never had O bleeding that I know of before. It's also pretty close to the color and amount of my 1st day or 2 of normal AF so tomorrow I will probably know more. Although, the month or 2 before conceiving DS2 I had random 1 day bleeding but it wasn't around O and I had recently lost my mirena IUD. I'm at a total loss. I will be DTD tonight either way as we are at 4 days abstain and I just want to try to catch it. Then 48 hrs after I think. BTW - my PH tester broke out of the blue and I'm out of URAL...of coarse. :)

Please keep us updated on how it's going on this board too. FX!!!!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Do you find that helps though, it would still be on my mind coz I just know he is watching, lol.

I've learned to block it out :rofl:

Iluv - it's fun being screwed with isn't it :hair:

[iluvmyman]

I've learned to block it out :rofl:

Iluv - it's fun being screwed with isn't it :hair:

It sure should be! LOL! Negative opk again right now. I have no friggin idea.

[TTC5]

I Luv - god what a head screw this is for you hey!!!

Ladies I have a head cold and so does DD4, do you think it is ok for me to use our steamer with vicks vapo steam: the ingredients are eucalyptus oil bo, peppermint oil, oil of wintergreen & lavender oil? Do these omit the ok ions??

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi ladies, Guess what? AF is here, but I didn't ovulate:suprise: ..WTH? This is so weird. My chart looks so weird now anyways I hope I get my body back :worry:

[My Fabulous Children]

Just URAL AF-O for PH. I used to do the lemon water but got lazy on that. Doing diet pretty good except been terrible w/ my carmel frapps. Other than that not bad. It might raise closer to O, but seems like it should be higher since I s/b getting a LH surge tomorrow (CD15). Surged on CD14 last month and my body is starting to show signs of getting closer. IDK, but I sure hope it gets higher. Need to look at the benefits of doing BSF before O since it doesn't really effect your internal CM. Whatever, I'm doing the EW's either way.

You can try ACV for pH too, but is so nasty.

[My Fabulous Children]

TRYING ;)

Good luck hun.

[My Fabulous Children]

Wow, ok almost caught up!

Hey girls! Looks like we have some new members, welcome! I am on CD 7 and just waiting for O. I am a lot more relaxed this month, DH and I will dtd every other day- and try to get an 0-1 at night. That is our goal.

Hope you get your BFP this month.

[iluvmyman]

You can try ACV for pH too, but is so nasty.

Thanks MFC. I'm sooo sorry about your cycle. What the heck is up with that!?

[My Fabulous Children]

Wot cd are you on now, sorry to hear O hasnt come yet! I think it's a great plan to do as you did when you conceived your DS because it obviously worked

Now I'm on CD2 (was CD36) ..AF showed, but I didn't ovulate. So weird. I stopped all the supplements and IF I try again I will just take EXACTLY what I took with my DS I will do everything the same.

[My Fabulous Children]

Wow you girls are chatty ! Welcome to the newbies!
Has taken me a bit read up so will have to keep it brief tonight:) I am getting soooo excited reading about those that are trying and those in the 2ww- I keep hoping i will log on and see some good news.:)

MFC- I really feel for you - hugs! TTC is so hard and when you add in swaying and running a family I am suprised anyone can manage! I hope things pick up and you start feeling a bit better whatever happens.

ILUV- Wow thats tough about your PH!! I can only suggest stopping the frappes because i am sure they have a bit of sugar....and praying it picks up before 'o' - I worry most about my PH and can imagine how bummed you are feeling -good luck let us know what happens with it!

Lola- thanks for the info re what to take in the 2ww.....but just to clarify by prenatals do you mean vite, fish oil, folate is ok and stop zinc and potassium BSD gelatin ??

As for me I have finally seen my ph rise! It is ph6 and i am CD7 - although I am not taking the max ural as this is my trial run for next month- I will def up it for next month though! Not sure if it has to do with upping the fish oil or just the urals kicking in finally but will continue on!

Got to go make some green tea :) Bye for now.

Thankyou :) Your pH is great!

[iluvmyman]

10:30 at night negative OPK but DTD anyway. Good night!

[My Fabulous Children]

Lola, Good luck losing all that weight. I hope we both lose weight before July because I am thinking:think: about trying in August too.

[My Fabulous Children]

Someone might have answered this but I think the ones most likely to mess with you are L'Arg, EPO (though it hasn't messed with me), B6, FertileCM, soy, RJ, and TT. But as we all know ... only way to know if it'll mess with you or help you is to try it :-(

TT, L'Arg, FertileCM, RJ, I tried them all and totally all of them messed my cycle up , but not soy. Weird.

[My Fabulous Children]

just curious, MFC, what made you add or change your supplements this time around (doing it differently from what you took with DS1?)

Good question ..A good friend of mine did sway twice and the 2nd sway she added RJ, not just that, but I know a lot who took rj so I thought it would be good to add it.

I took FertileCM with my DS so I decided to take L'Arg instead. I will sway again and I won't take them again.

[My Fabulous Children]

We gave up on doggy style, we do a modified missionary that allows for deep penetration, easy O and no rolling over. This is a little graphic (it's animated) but much easier then trying to explain it. Sorry if anyone is offended or it's way tmi :bigsmile:

http://www.sexinfo101.com/sp_deepstick.shtml

iluv- I have the same problem, have to take things into my own hands so to speak. I can have a combo but not just inside, the above position is great for letting you get "involved" lol
It looks great :D LOL.

[My Fabulous Children]

No worries, that wasn't tmi, that was good stuff!

I agree!!!

[My Fabulous Children]

Babydes, I typically get the MOST EWCM before I O, so it sounds like that is what is going on with you. If you get 2-3 days of +OPK I would DTD tonight and then again 48 hours later if your OPK is still +.


I was gonna say that! ITA. Good luck babydes.

[My Fabulous Children]

Thanks for advice, i'm going to go for it tonight!

Good luck!

[TTC5]

Ladies, I have a really bad flu AGAIN second time this month... will this be a prob for my sway next week.. should I risk it :S

[TTC5]

Now I'm on CD2 (was CD36) ..AF showed, but I didn't ovulate. So weird. I stopped all the supplements and IF I try again I will just take EXACTLY what I took with my DS I will do everything the same.

Bummer! x

[TTC5]

10:30 at night negative OPK but DTD anyway. Good night!

Damn hey! FX for you anyway hun x

[TTC5]

LOL! I think that's just cuz he's a man. I'm sure they must've had some and I doubt he would go and ask for help! :)

Yes your prob right lol and I am in bed sick so can't go out myself =(

[TTC5]

Good luck hun.

Thankyou!

Sorry for hear of your AF and crappy cycle, pray that your body gets back in sync next cycle! x

[My Fabulous Children]

I am always in the New Moon- every month :mad:, so I just use an electric blanket on low. Oddly, it doesn't affect my temps.

Me too. Always new noon even when I'm due to ovulate in the fullmoon I end up ovulating in the new moon. Crazy. I don't worry about it much I use a lot of +ions around.

[TTC5]

I say just give it a try with him or have him kiss your neck while you do it.....like not totally paying attention or maybe have him be doing s-o-m-ething down there and you just sort of, you know, help. No harm in trying.

Ah you guys are the best, nothing is TMI here :)

Well I had a little go this afternoon with one of my "toys" rotflmao and DH asked for a photo haha soooo I tried to get one and sent it to him. He was like a school kid in a candy store - think all his xmas's came at once, LOL!!

I was sooo embarrassed but wth I have to orgasm for our attempt i just HAVE to LOL!!

So one little hurdle down and now he wants a live show tonight - good lord give me strength lol

[TTC5]

Think we need an AO section for this kind of talk... LOL!!

[My Fabulous Children]

B, maybe you didn't O, that is normal to skip every once and a while, I think. Maybe the supps though? Man, it is not fair how some women become super ovulating baby-making machines on the supps and some of us make our ovaries go hide in a cave.

LOL, Very true. But it's interesting I think that's what happened to me this time. GLAD is OVER.

[My Fabulous Children]

LOL! For real about the ovaries hiding in a cave :rofl: TRUEEEE because mine did hide :suprise:

[My Fabulous Children]

Thanks MFC. I'm sooo sorry about your cycle. What the heck is up with that!?

I wish I know 'maybe' because of the supps. :hair:

[My Fabulous Children]

10:30 at night negative OPK but DTD anyway. Good night!

Damn sorry, but have fun tonight! Good night hun.

[My Fabulous Children]

Ladies, I have a really bad flu AGAIN second time this month... will this be a prob for my sway next week.. should I risk it :S

How's your pH? Hope you feel better soon.

[My Fabulous Children]

Thankyou!

Sorry for hear of your AF and crappy cycle, pray that your body gets back in sync next cycle! x

Thanks x, I hope so! lets wait and see ..

[TTC5]

How's your pH? Hope you feel better soon.

6.4 this morning so goes to show the once off bs finger last night is only short acting, but day before eas 6.6 do has dropped just a tad, could this be from the illness? Will check tonight again.

[My Fabulous Children]

You ladies were very chatty while I was gone. Took me a while to catch up and sorry I didn't catch some of the posts.

[My Fabulous Children]

6.4 this morning so goes to show the once off bs finger last night is only short acting, but day before eas 6.6 do has dropped just a tad, could this be from the illness? Will check tonight again.

They say being sick lower your pH, it could be from illness, GL on checking again, but 6.4 is good too.

[TTC5]

They say being sick lower your pH, it could be from illness, GL on checking again, but 6.4 is good too.

I'm just praying to get it as close to 7 as I can if that is at all possible?

[SpicyTunaSushi]

You can try ACV for pH too, but is so nasty.

It is so disgusting! I have to chug it with my nose pinched. Ugh!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

This is so me =( DH tells me he wants to watch but I just can't do it... any advice? =(

I agree- this would be hard to do. Have you tried having him work you while dtd? That is what we do and it works!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

:rofl::rofl:

Hilarious, and true!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

spicy and begonia - I'm done playing the ion game. I should have three boys if computers, moons and electric blankets played a big role. I truly believe it's 90% about the diet.

For sure. We are doing the diet 100%, but it isn't much extra work to turn the heating blanket on at night, especially since DH is ALWAYS stealing the blanket.

[babydes56]

I guess my urine was diluted yesterday when i did the opk & got a negative because i've just tested today & it's +. So here's wot we've done, Wed opk+, 4 days abstinence so dtd, Thurs dtd again although i had - opk (urine diluted) & today opk +. My temps havent gone up but will probably tomorrow. Should i dtd again today?

I'm a bit bummed because the false negative test yesterday threw me off, if i had known it would be positive today i'd have waited 48hrs & dtd today. Well what's done is done, just waiting for ovulation confirmation. Cramps here & there nothing too strong

[LolaInLove]

How do you feel about it? By the way how's the dieting going? Also what's your plan for the next few months? I love your relaxed attitude about swaying, i am much more relaxed than when i started

Eh, it just makes me sad. But I'm feeling sorry for myself, clearly. It stings because he was so abusive to me and now everything goes so well in his life....it's just hard sometimes (COME ON, KARMA!!!! WHERE ARE YOU????). Anyway, it is what it is. Diet is going fine...I have no appetite, so really not eating much at all. Will start being healthier and eating more and doing diet again at beginning of July. I think we will ttc in August, but I've only got 3 months left in me to actually try, then we are just going to NTNP (not trying not preventing) because I'm getting tired of this.

Ok, thank you Karma. That Natalie Merchant song "Jealousy" just came on the radio. Clearly that is my problem.

[LolaInLove]

I think we might. Tonight will be 4 days abstained and I just did another opk and it's negative. So I've learned I can't use 2nd morning urine either to test. I really am not sure. I'm still hoping to see a + opk before DTD but most likely tonight either way and then 48 hrs later. Idk, I'm in denial yet still hopeful. Still bleeding.....augh...but I'm not whinning, Lola! :)

LOL, whine away girl....my opks will be + no matter what concentration or time of day pee it is when you have the surge, so just keep testing! I would dtd tonight though!

[LolaInLove]

LOL! Oh yeah! Somethin 'bout that a$$. He does like my new and not improved cushin for the pushin

I am afraid this ttc thing with doggy all the time is going to convert my DH into an ONLY doggy guy. Yikes. (I had a boyfriend back in college who would only be hard if that was the case.) I guess I'll just have to lay down the law.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

I guess my urine was diluted yesterday when i did the opk & got a negative because i've just tested today & it's +. So here's wot we've done, Wed opk+, 4 days abstinence so dtd, Thurs dtd again although i had - opk (urine diluted) & today opk +. My temps havent gone up but will probably tomorrow. Should i dtd again today?

I'm a bit bummed because the false negative test yesterday threw me off, if i had known it would be positive today i'd have waited 48hrs & dtd today. Well what's done is done, just waiting for ovulation confirmation. Cramps here & there nothing too strong

I wouldn't worry- as long as you have dtd, you are fine! It is impossible to predict these things. We deal with it every month!

[LolaInLove]

Is it a lot of blood, i wonder what could be causing it? Well i've just done opk & it's negative...this is the first for me. I usually have 2-3days +++, weird. I can only hope that last night wasnt too late

Hey, glad you dtd then! You are probably just fine, but you COULD do it again!

[LolaInLove]

CRAP CRAP CRAP...my CM just turned...that 'almost' positive line apparently was my positive! I'm so bummed! We DTD O-3 so would you ladies do the BD tonight, just hope the O-3 did the trick?? According to Shettles, O-3 is the girl zone. What would you do??

Are you doing 2 opks a day? Ugh, I know that is hard. Don't worry about Shettles, he was wrong. I would maybe hold off unless you REALLY just want to get pg this month.

[LolaInLove]

Yes wants to watch it all haha and I am the same =(

Well.....you could have a couple of glasses of wine and TRY it one night, I guess? I think you might enjoy that, once you get over feeling timid about it. Maybe tell him you are open to that but he must make you feel comfortable and all, not get up and stare are you like you are a porn star or anything. I know, right, 3pnb, that makes me icked out also.

I have the freaking opposite problem, though....my DH is more reserved that I wish he was.:mad:

[babydes56]

Eh, it just makes me sad. But I'm feeling sorry for myself, clearly. It stings because he was so abusive to me and now everything goes so well in his life....it's just hard sometimes (COME ON, KARMA!!!! WHERE ARE YOU????). Anyway, it is what it is. Diet is going fine...I have no appetite, so really not eating much at all. Will start being healthier and eating more and doing diet again at beginning of July. I think we will ttc in August, but I've only got 3 months left in me to actually try, then we are just going to NTNP (not trying not preventing) because I'm getting tired of this.

Ok, thank you Karma. That Natalie Merchant song "Jealousy" just came on the radio. Clearly that is my problem.

Dont worry, i believe in Karma too! All the bad he did will come back to him, be it soon or later it will happen. So you'll only start trying from July, you'll be really boosted then so all the best. My ex DH was an a$$hole too, i cant believe i spent 6yrs with him, i'm soooo much happier now it's unbelievable! Only wish i had met my current DH sooner so i could had all the kids we've wanted by now

[babydes56]

I wouldn't worry- as long as you have dtd, you are fine! It is impossible to predict these things. We deal with it every month!

It is impossible to predict every month, well i've done what i can the rest is out of my hands. I always think that surely not every boy was conceived dead on ovulation day.