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Leticia
August 13th, 2014, 04:02 AM
in 4 weeks the program itself ends but of course I wlll be under the control of my doctor according to my place of residence.

Rina_Barrowman
August 14th, 2014, 03:23 AM
in 4 weeks the program itself ends but of course I wlll be under the control of my doctor according to my place of residence. If the clinic at your place of residence is good enough and you trust your doc completely, then everything will go perfectly!

Leticia
August 14th, 2014, 05:13 AM
it is very inconvenient to be under the control of the doctor who is in another country, so when we with children will be strong enough and will have no need in hormonal support after the end of the program of course we will be with our doctor here, probably he is my doctor for a long time, so it will be easy for us to cooperate)

Tara Januarson
August 14th, 2014, 08:42 AM
I'm from France. We have intention to do ivf with ED but in case of failure we will use services of surrogate mother. Does the clinic provide such services?

I know that in the clinic mentioned somewhere above (*********), there's a programme just for your case. I know, that they provide this Ideal Package. It implies IVF (it is performed within "donation programme") and then, if the positive result hasn't been achieved, you can easily to surrogacy programme without losing any payment! So maybe, why not try it?

Rina_Barrowman
August 15th, 2014, 02:07 AM
it is very inconvenient to be under the control of the doctor who is in another country, so when we with children will be strong enough and will have no need in hormonal support after the end of the program of course we will be with our doctor here, probably he is my doctor for a long time, so it will be easy for us to cooperate) And it's great! How has your everyday life changed? I mean not emotional side. Maybe you have some new eating habits (as far as I know, in your situation it's neccessary to keep a special diet)?

Leticia
August 15th, 2014, 07:16 AM
I can't say I changed my eating habits but there are some changes of course, try to east more food with natural vitamins, no frozen food only fresh, no fast food (which I like sometimes :giggle:) or smth like this, so of course I control what I eat.

Rina_Barrowman
August 18th, 2014, 02:44 AM
I can't say I changed my eating habits but there are some changes of course, try to east more food with natural vitamins, no frozen food only fresh, no fast food (which I like sometimes :giggle:) or smth like this, so of course I control what I eat. And what about physical activity? Now you should take care and be less active than usually. Isn't it hard?

Tara Januarson
August 18th, 2014, 07:58 AM
Yep, and is it difficult to limit yourself? Does it cause any problems for you personally?

Leticia
August 19th, 2014, 09:46 AM
it is like natural process, you feel what you should do and what you shouldn't, so it is pretty easy for me, some other instincts turned on inside me))))

Rina_Barrowman
August 20th, 2014, 02:42 AM
And what about your family? Do they understand changes, which have already happened and which will happen soon?

Leticia
August 21st, 2014, 02:46 AM
yes, of course))) my hubby is so happy) we waited for this for so long time, he calls himself "daddy"))) didn't know whom we will have but bought already some things which don't need appropriate colour) probably everyone is happy and wait with excitement to see and to hold on hands our little miracles)

Rina_Barrowman
August 21st, 2014, 06:31 AM
yes, of course))) my hubby is so happy) we waited for this for so long time, he calls himself "daddy"))) didn't know whom we will have but bought already some things which don't need appropriate colour) probably everyone is happy and wait with excitement to see and to hold on hands our little miracles) Understand your feelings! But is it good to buy something beforehand? There is a rule, according to which you shouldn't do it

ever hopeful
August 21st, 2014, 10:05 AM
Goodness, can't you just be happy for Leticia. It's great news and being pregnant isn't like being I'll! Enjoy every minute - and shop if/all you want - by the sounds of things you've waited a long time for this so you really deserve this. Xx

Rina_Barrowman
August 22nd, 2014, 04:05 AM
Goodness, can't you just be happy for Leticia. It's great news and being pregnant isn't like being I'll! Enjoy every minute - and shop if/all you want - by the sounds of things you've waited a long time for this so you really deserve this. Xx And who said that we are not happy for her? Of course we are! Her example inspires us!

ann5
August 22nd, 2014, 04:53 AM
Understand your feelings! But is it good to buy something beforehand? There is a rule, according to which you shouldn't do it

i think it's just superstition.

Leticia
August 22nd, 2014, 09:22 AM
hey,hey, hey, hold on, all my dear friends))) everything is ok! I believe that everyone if happy for me! I love you all and is thankful for your support during all this not easy time.
I enjoy every minute, it is really cool)))) Such an interesting process)))) They both grows inside me, doctor said that everything is ok:ttcgirl:

Rina_Barrowman
August 26th, 2014, 02:29 AM
i think it's just superstition. Maybe you are right. Anyway, the most important thing is everything's ok, future mom is happy and kids are growing up!:flowerz:

Clea_Lerman
August 26th, 2014, 05:50 AM
hey,hey, hey, hold on, all my dear friends))) everything is ok! I believe that everyone if happy for me! I love you all and is thankful for your support during all this not easy time.
I enjoy every minute, it is really cool)))) Such an interesting process)))) They both grows inside me, doctor said that everything is ok:ttcgirl: Great! What else did the doc say?

Leticia
August 26th, 2014, 07:36 AM
said that everything is ok, prepare for ultrasound...probably it is too early, need to wait till the 23rd of September.

Clea_Lerman
August 27th, 2014, 02:20 AM
said that everything is ok, prepare for ultrasound...probably it is too early, need to wait till the 23rd of September. it's not so long, But I understand that you are curious and want to see your babies sooner!

Leticia
August 28th, 2014, 03:00 AM
yes) wanna see them) how they move there, how they live) seems to me we will watch this disk with ultrasound every evening before going to bad)))

Clea_Lerman
August 28th, 2014, 04:52 AM
yes) wanna see them) how they move there, how they live) seems to me we will watch this disk with ultrasound every evening before going to bad)))
It's a norm! The picture of my sister's ultrasound is still hanging on her fridge, despite her boy is already 3 years old!

ann5
August 28th, 2014, 08:55 AM
said that everything is ok, prepare for ultrasound...probably it is too early, need to wait till the 23rd of September.
will you be able to know the gender?

Clea_Lerman
August 29th, 2014, 03:21 AM
will you be able to know the gender? It's too early for it, i think

Leticia
September 1st, 2014, 07:53 AM
nice) yes, it is too early now. I don't mind to know the gender) btw it doesn't matter whom we'll have! I'm just happy to by mother) Started to read fairytales to them)

ann5
September 3rd, 2014, 09:12 AM
do you think they hear you reading them faitytales?

ann5
September 4th, 2014, 04:31 AM
and when will be it ok to check the gender?

Leticia
September 4th, 2014, 07:46 AM
it is individual, bcz sometimes child can turn such a way that it is impossible to see gender, sometimes ultrasound can be wrong, depends on doctor's experience) sometimes it is ok, usually exact gender can be known after 20th week...for me it is not so soon) so I have to be patient!:giggle:

ann5
September 5th, 2014, 08:18 AM
understood:)
thanx for the inf
sorry can you remind me your term?:)

Leticia
September 8th, 2014, 05:38 AM
It will be 10 weeks tomorrow) time passes so fast) feel as if it was yesterday when I found out I'm pregnant)

ann5
September 8th, 2014, 07:56 AM
yes...time flies...and how are you feeling?
do you feel some movements already?

Leticia
September 9th, 2014, 04:47 AM
No, I'm not...doctor said it is ok to feel the baby at 16-18th week, so should wait a bit) Feel myself pretty well, as pregnant:giggle:

ann5
September 12th, 2014, 04:25 AM
has your body mass increased already?

Leticia
September 15th, 2014, 03:12 AM
yes, I became a bit bigger not much bcz term is not so big but I have already seen the tummy))) nobody except me and hubby don't see it but we see)) it is what we watch every evening before going to bed)

ann5
September 15th, 2014, 04:13 AM
yes, I became a bit bigger not much bcz term is not so big but I have already seen the tummy))) nobody except me and hubby don't see it but we see)) it is what we watch every evening before going to bed)
oh, darling..it's so sweet...so gladfor you and your hubby.
very soon your family will be completed and your dreams will come true!!!

Leticia
September 16th, 2014, 03:43 AM
yes) think in 2 weeks will go to ultrasound and will try to see gender)

ann5
September 16th, 2014, 05:22 AM
it will be your 12th week of pregnancy. is it possible to see exactly the gender of the child?

Leticia
September 17th, 2014, 03:35 AM
Probably, since 11th week genitals just started to form, so at 13th week doctor can say something but there is 50% of risk that it is a mistake but still we will go) since 15th week ultrasound result can be more exact but we don't want to wait till 15 weeks) we clearly understand that will know nothing exact but still it will be the first our ultrasound like this) as for the most exact result I've read that male gender is easier to see and it can be done at 18th week and female gender only at 20-25 weeks.

ann5
September 17th, 2014, 08:29 AM
Probably, since 11th week genitals just started to form, so at 13th week doctor can say something but there is 50% of risk that it is a mistake but still we will go) since 15th week ultrasound result can be more exact but we don't want to wait till 15 weeks) we clearly understand that will know nothing exact but still it will be the first our ultrasound like this) as for the most exact result I've read that male gender is easier to see and it can be done at 18th week and female gender only at 20-25 weeks.

does ultrasound harm the fetus?

Leticia
September 18th, 2014, 04:11 AM
There are different sides of this question, some say it is ok, some say know. So, as I understand ultrasound is a high sound that it is beyond human perception. This conventional sound waves as a talk or music, for example, but the oscillation frequency of these waves is higher than the human ear can hear. Like any sound, it penetrates through the obstacles, partly reflected from them. Ultrasonic device emits a signal, and it is reflected (giving echo) from different tissues with different force, it is an echo and recorded, becoming a picture. Effects on the fetus due to these sound waves. It is unlikely that the embryo can not hear them, it has no ability to hear high-pitched sounds. I must say that up to 16-17 weeks, the organ of hearing does not sufficiently developed, in order to hear at least some sounds. Often during the survey can be seen as the kid turns away from the sensor, but it has more to do with his pressure on the abdominal wall, than the influence of ultrasound on the fetus.

ann5
September 19th, 2014, 08:14 AM
There are different sides of this question, some say it is ok, some say know. So, as I understand ultrasound is a high sound that it is beyond human perception. This conventional sound waves as a talk or music, for example, but the oscillation frequency of these waves is higher than the human ear can hear. Like any sound, it penetrates through the obstacles, partly reflected from them. Ultrasonic device emits a signal, and it is reflected (giving echo) from different tissues with different force, it is an echo and recorded, becoming a picture. Effects on the fetus due to these sound waves. It is unlikely that the embryo can not hear them, it has no ability to hear high-pitched sounds. I must say that up to 16-17 weeks, the organ of hearing does not sufficiently developed, in order to hear at least some sounds. Often during the survey can be seen as the kid turns away from the sensor, but it has more to do with his pressure on the abdominal wall, than the influence of ultrasound on the fetus.
so as i understood you right, the ultrasound has less influence on the early terms and it doesn't harm te fetus. but the more term is the bigger influence is?

Leticia
September 23rd, 2014, 02:46 AM
No, I don't think you. I meant that ultrasound is not harmful for fetus but the gender can be known for sure at later term.

ann5
September 23rd, 2014, 04:41 AM
oh, i see.
so it's too early for you to know the gender?
don't you want to keep it in secret?even for you?

Leticia
September 24th, 2014, 07:52 AM
in secret?! No way))) I'm not so patient to wait for such a long time. BTW want to decorated room for children and should know how to do it and what colours to use)

ann5
September 25th, 2014, 04:25 AM
but you always can buy things and prepare room in such a way that it can suit both:)

Leticia
September 26th, 2014, 03:35 AM
probably a couple of weeks left to know the gender, so I'll wait till some exact result of ultrasound.

ann5
September 26th, 2014, 05:15 AM
i read that very often ultrasound shows wrong results!

Leticia
September 29th, 2014, 03:43 AM
Can't say that it is very often but there are cases when the result was wrong. Also there is 3D ultrasound now and it is difficult to make a mistake with such technical progress. Again everything depends on the term.

ann5
September 29th, 2014, 04:37 AM
and on the position of fetus. sometimes our miracle turns so that the doc can't see anything...

Leticia
September 30th, 2014, 02:46 AM
yes, it is can be like this but it is not our case, so hope we will see everything clearly)

ann5
September 30th, 2014, 03:07 AM
hope so too!!!
so when will you go?

Leticia
October 1st, 2014, 07:21 AM
genitals are completely formed after 20th week, till this period there is a big chance that doctor will make a mistake, so I have 12 weeks now. think when it will be 15 weeks we can go, so not earlier than at the end of October.

ann5
October 1st, 2014, 08:16 AM
pretty long to wait!
are you full of excitement?:cheerteam: