Uk ladies

[Babybeaublue]

No not yet it's boring me now lol I got the negative test on Friday so I'm hoping it won't be long.

I always assumed that because my sisters got one of each straight away I would too. Ha ha silly me :(

[motherofboys]

I kind of thought the same. Following back my mum, her mum, her nan and her great nan, all had a girl, followed by a boy (except my nan who only had 1 child, and my mum who had twin boys after me) even my Nan's brother had 1 daughter, and my brother has 1 daughter. In dh family his parents had a girl and 2 boys and his bro and sis both had a boy followed by a girl, so u just assumed that's how it would work for us. I didn't even think about the fact that his grandad was one of 6 boys, who then had 3 boys and his middle son also has 3 boys.


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[motherofboys]

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Please tell me this is a +opk!! Cd30!! Just don't trust my own eyes after so much waiting this cycle lol


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[Babybeaublue]

Ooh that looks pos to me!!

[motherofboys]

Thanks! Just needed it confirming after all the confusion I've had. Just hope I get a decent lp now.


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[Babybeaublue]

Fx for you!!

[foxymrsg]

Wow that's defo a pos! Get bd'ing girl! Lol

[motherofboys]

Thanks girls. Dh has done his back in at work today. Typical. We did bd 2 days ago though so hopefully that will be enough. I'm not very hopeful after it taking ages with ds4 so just kind of crossing my fingers that I see some normality return to my cycle.


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[Babybeaublue]

Those kind of things happen to me too. Hopefully it all works out

[motherofboys]

There was no mistaking today's test. With my cp and cm I had to do another opk and the test line came up right away and was darker than the control line before the dye had even finished passing across! Had a slight temp rise this morning so hoping I see an even bigger one tomorrow and then it stays up long enough to get cross hairs lol


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[motherofboys]

So we are privately renting and need to move. The house is too small, and we were supposed to move before ttc but ended up NTNP anyway. I was beginning to feel really down about it thinking we'd be stuck here forever as the other properties in the area big enough are a huge jump in rent (almost double in most cases) I applied for council but didn't think I'd get anywhere. Had an email this morning accepting us and saying we are band c minor overcrowding. I know it could still take years but we can now 'bid' on council properties as well as continue looking for a decently priced private rent (if such a thing exists lol) I finally feel like we will get out of here! We only ever intended to stay for 6 months and are still here 7 years (and 3 more kids) later


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[foxymrsg]

That's fantastic news! Well done!! Hope you get a result with the council house soon!

[motherofboys]

Thanks. I just feel so much better knowing that we actually have a chance of moving. It was really dragging me down.
Now my biggest hurdle is dh being a snob about some of surrounding areas lol I hope something comes up close enough to not have to move schools but I'm sure we will work round whatever happens. Just knowing I have that option is a huge weight lifted.


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[Babybeaublue]

That's great! I know what it's like to be stuck somewhere you hate. Before we moved I didn't even want to decorate our other house, I just lost interest completely because I wanted out of it so much.

[motherofboys]

Our landlord is fantastic, but the one thing we can not do is decorate. I would LOVE to decorate. Our walls are all white.
But its so small, and we trip over each other and our stuff is crammed in. So it never looks tidy. And I just find that I have no desire to keep it nice and tidy because no matter how hard I try it still looks messy.


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[Babybeaublue]

I have ocd I have to have everything in its place, sometimes I spend the day filling black bags and getting rid of stuff because I need the space. Our house isn't great for storage either it's so annoying esp when you open a cupboard door and 500 shoes fall out :/

[motherofboys]

My husband is a squirrel as well. He keeps hold of things "in case they come in handy" he has finally had enough and started getting rid of things. But we still have so much. We've got 4 age groups worth of toys before you even start lol 1 bedroom is just 2 bunk beds and 47899511135784 toys crammed against the walls and in shelves and stacked in tubs and under beds.


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[butterflywarbie]

hi ladies, im just wondering if anyone is going to dr potters seminar, ive just booked me n hubbys place, i dont think we would ever be in a financial situation to afford ht but im doing the lottery from this week lol x

[motherofboys]

No I'm not.
I keep thinking maybe I should start doing the lottery so I can spend my winnings getting a girl. I just wish it was able to be completely done in this country.
I was so naughty past night, we had an Indian take away. I know the odd cheat is ok but I feel I've been too laid back with the diet anyway lately. And it's my birthday next week and all DHs plans involve food!!
And he wants to know what I want, if I want to go shopping etc but the one thing I want I can't have!
Ds3 had his first trial afternoon at 'big school' today. He loves it thankfully. But was so quiet this afternoon here with out him. I'm used to the mornings with just ds4 but the afternoon as well just felt odd.


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[motherofboys]

4 dpo, trying so hard not to test until after my birthday (Thursday when I'll be 8dpo) I don't know if I'll even make it to then with my poor lp history. Every little twinge I get I think it's af starting.


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[Babybeaublue]

Fx for you x

[foxymrsg]

Keeping my fingers crossed for you!!

[motherofboys]

I'm sure af will be here tomorrow. I have come to bed feeling crampy, bloated and just feel like she is going to get me. I'll be 6 dpo tomorrow


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[Babybeaublue]

Any updates mob?

[motherofboys]

Well no af, and no more cramping etc so who knows I think I'm 6dpo now going by opk and temp rise but I couldn't keep up temping as ds4 has been really unsettled through the night so not really gotten enough sleep for temping


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[Babybeaublue]

How long is your lp usually?

[motherofboys]

Well af arrived today at 7dpo. This is only my 3rd af since ds4 was born, but after ds3 I had a 6 day lp for a few months, I took b6 to extend it which I don't want this time. I think my last cycle af arrived at 4 dpo but I didn't confirm O so can't be sure.


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[Babybeaublue]

What can you do to lengthen it? Just wait?

[motherofboys]

The only thing I know of is vitamin b6 which I think sways blue, I'm sure if I wait it would extend naturally. There may be something else but it's finding something that won't interfere with a sway.


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[Babybeaublue]

I hope it doesn't take too long. Mine is usually only 10

[TishTashTosh]

Speak to doc about some progesterone supplements? I understand that these help to lengthen you LP?


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[motherofboys]

Thanks, I'm going to see what happens over the next couple if cycles, I don't want to take anything if it's going to sort itself out.


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[Babybeaublue]

Friend of ours due same time I was mc. She was 17 wks, has 3 girls, this one was a boy. She lost one at 13wks a few years ago and it took her this long to try again. It's just not fair..

[Mrs_Incredible]

Such sad news babybeaublue. Life just isn't fair to good people at times xx


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[motherofboys]

That's so sad, life is so unfair.


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[weeziewoozles]

Is anyone going to see Dr Potter talk in London on Wednesday?

[motherofboys]

Not me.
How's everyone doing?



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[Kittybear]

I'm going weezie, some other UK ladies on the HT private board are also going.

@ MOB, have you tried vitex Hun? This can help lengthen LPD and is recommended for a pink sway :) I know it can cause ov to be delayed and messed with some people's cycles but I felt great on it. Also it used to be called 'chaste berry' and some people believed it was a 'natural' way to prevent pregnancy so might stop some peeps falling pg, but might be worth a try? Xx

[motherofboys]

I'm not sure, I'm still bfing at night so always worry about what's safe


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[Kittybear]

Ah ok, I didn't realise you were still bf'ing. Might be worth asking atomic if it is ok in one of the ttc girl forums (but I imagine the answer will be no). The bf'ing could cause the LPD (?). My NCT mummy friend was struggling to fall pg (I'm not sure she was still bf'ing her DS but her issue was that she wasn't ov'ing) and she had fertility accupancture and bam, she had her dd 2 months ago :) x x

[motherofboys]

Yeah I had the same issue last time while breastfeeding but was hoping the fact I'm only partially breastfeeding would make a difference. I've only had 2 full cycles so could also just be that everything needs to settle down. My previous cycle could possibly have only been a 4 day lp so I'm just going to see what happens.


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[foxymrsg]

Well I've started exercising doing wii fit cardio exercises for an hour or more a day plus have started tracking what I eat on my fitness pal. I'm doing it all pretty loosely at mo as hubby is still slightly against another baby but is also coming around to the idea. We are also still mid house renovation/house move so defo no plans yet but I've noticed hubby getting a bit lazy with protection recently so have decided to make the changes just in case!! I've not cut out meat yet but am planning on becoming a vegetarian but want to get used to heating just around 1500cals first. Have been so good with no snacking though! Never thought I had that will power in me!! Lol! Just hope I'm not on the exercise too long before we do actually try if we do!!!

[motherofboys]

Well done foxy, the hardest part for me has been no snacking, and then not eating a massive meal in the evening because I haven't snacked all day lol
I've had a couple of bad days and I did consider just taking a break with the school holidays here, but I've decided I'm going to stick as closely to the diet as possible and then restart the exercise in September. With my cycle not cooperating ATM I think a break won't do much harm. It may even help if I'm not putting my body through too much.


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[foxymrsg]

Yes agree you need to let your body get back to normal and a break in exercise will probably help! Well done for sticking to the diet though! Think it's defo the hardest bit especially with the exercise!! Hey a couple of bad days are only cheat days and they are recommended!!
We went to legoland at the weekend so didn't count calories then and totally enjoyed my cheat days! Think the chocolate fudge cake alone was my days calorie allowance! Lol!
Have been good since I got home but really want to cut out meat and fish which we tend to eat a lot of but know if I say to DH why I'm cutting out hell just start moaning again about how he's done with sleepless nights blah blah and can't be bothered to listen it that right now lol!
To be fair to him he has said he knows how much it means to me and because he loves me he can see himself caving to give me what I won't but he doesn't believe we have any chance at a girl.....maybe we don't but we can't afford ht and if it's boy no 3 for us then he will be meant to be and at least I can say I tried and gave it my all iykwim? No way would he give in to a fourth as much as I'd love to! lol!

[motherofboys]

Yeah I know what you mean I just want to say I tried something different


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[Sweet mummy]

Sounds really good for pink foxy! Hope boys enjoyed Legoland ��

[foxymrsg]

Aw thanks sweet! Glad I read this as was just about to tuck into the boys left over scrambled eggs lol that gave me the willpòwer and reminded me why I'm doing it! Lol!
Yes they loved the legoland Monday was sooo much buster than Sunday thought it'd be the other way round but seems like a lot of schools tagged inset days onto the end of the sumner term! Still nice to do as we're not going away this year so was a nice break. Totally worth it just for the chocolate fudge cake though, lol!

[motherofboys]

There isn't much that isn't worth it for chocolate fudge cake lol




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[foxymrsg]

Lol couldn't agree more! Lol

[motherofboys]

Today is a good day. Today I feel happy and relaxed and like things are falling into place. Today I feel satisfied and like the lucky person that I am, I have 4 healthy, mostly happy (lol) children. Who cares that they are all boys?? Not me! Today I feel like I could be happy with 5 boys, in fact today I feel like if I never am lucky enough to get another bfp I could move on and be happy with my all boy family. I mean I'll have to do it at some point anyway right?
And today I have managed to eat according to the diet with out even thinking about it! It's so much easier when it doesn't matter. When I'm feeling really down about it I just want that huge slab of chocolate cake and to constantly munch all day, and it's hard not to do that because I feel like all the struggling is in vain anyway. When it doesn't matter that much it suddenly becomes easy.



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[foxymrsg]

Good on you and it must be the sun shining as I felt the same today! It's been a good day works been pretty boring but hey at least I'm lucky enough to have a job and a beautiful healthy family! The house is finally coming together and I'm slowly beginning to understand the calorie/fat intake and went to tesco today and got some fab low cal low fat food so hopefully will be able to rustle up some yummy food during the week.
Also bought some quorn burgers which are nice, think they're prob more high on the protein then what's ideal but figured it's one way of slowly cutting out the meat!

[motherofboys]

As long as protein is with in the limits then it'll be fine. And you could always make sure the protein in the other food you eat is lower over that day so it balances out


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[motherofboys]

Or even if you go a bit over one day it won't matter too much now and then


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[foxymrsg]

That's what I thought I'm just determined not to stress over it. Finding it hard to keep my fat down but after buying some low fat food that is actually easier than I thought. I think I'll harm my sway more stressing over it than if I actually go over it. Think just longs I stick to the cals which Im doing 1500 a day then going a little over the fat or protein every so often or more often than not lol as the case may be May not be a problem
Annoyed today though someone at work bought me a box of chocs to say thanks for helping them and when I got in from work today DH has eaten them all!! I mean not even saved me one! I know I shouldn't be this pissed off about it but I'm really upset!! Thing is I'm so below on my cals today as dinner just went tits up, not even sure why and so thought I'd make them up with a couple of chocs and there's seriously none left!! So angry! He's offered to buy me more but seen as I've been paid and he hasn't and the money hell use will be my wages no point as I'm buying them for myself iykwim? Lol!
Yes I know how crazy I sound but it's stolen chocolate people!!! lol

[motherofboys]

My dh wouldn't dare touch my chocolate ha ha
No I'm lucky he isn't a chocolates person do if he did he'd eat like 1 or 2 and that would be it. But I do get your point, it's not the same buying them for yourself. I'm mainly concentrating on cals too. Although I have switched to lower fat on some products and I figure with out my usual snacking I'm getting much less on the day front anyway. And lowering protein where I can too.
Since I found the list of grade a,b,c,d foods I've found it much easier. And with just 2-3 meals a day I can get in or under the cals. If I'm going to go wrong it will be dinner. Like Tuesday ds2 has requested tacos (thanks Lego movie and taco Tuesdays) so that is mainly meat. I'll allow myself that extra meat that day, a lot if this weeks meals either have no meat or I'm able to discreetly eat less meat than I usually would. But it's so high in everything and I can't stop till I'm stuffed. I feel like I'm having a cheat every week and like that is too often. I guess it isn't a bad thing that my cycles still messed up.


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[foxymrsg]

Lol I am still so angry at him think it's just me relying on them to bring my totals up that annoyed me more! Lol! Also was annoyed as had inky done 20 mins on wii fit when he was yelling at me to help as he can't do donned by himself and look after the boys! Mmmm wonder how I do it everyday!
I think you're doing fab! You've done so well to cut out snacking I'm sure meat one day a week isn't going to ruin everything! Am sure there are billions of girl mums out there who have taco Tuesdays! lol!
Have your cycles still not returned to normal? That's pants still means to can enjoy those tacos even more without feeling guilty! Lol!

[motherofboys]

Yeah I get annoyed when dh 'can't do everything' and it's like 2 things. I mean he is pretty good and I shouldn't complain cos I have friends who's dh won't lift a finger to help but today he was upstairs playing Lego with ds3. I has ds1 moaning at me because he wanted to play on the playstation but they have been given homework for over the holidays. There's an a4 sheet in their books with 5 columns and they have to do 1 task from each column so we said if they do one each Sunday then it's not loads all in one go and they'll soon get through it. But no games till that homework is done on the Sunday. He didn't want to do the homework. But he kept calling me from the front room. Ds 2 was in the dining room doing the home work. But kept calling me to tell me that the laptop had gone wrong or ask how to pronounce something (homework he chose was to find out how to say hello in 10 different languages, so he was using an online translator) and the ds4 is still hardly sleeping with the heat and he is usually really happy but this morning it was all too much and I couldn't put him down so was running from room to room with him on my hip grizzling and sinking his teeth into my shoulder every so often. While trying to get the general day to day stuff done. Then when dh was asked to find something he said "I just wanted 1 day when I didn't have to run around and do loads of stuff and could just relax before I'm back to work tomorrow" gee wouldn't that be nice!
Sounds like a mad house this morning but it honestly isn't that bad, or maybe I'm just used to it lol and it isn't always like that. This afternoon it was much cooler and ds1 and 2 went outside with a ball, dh played playmobil upstairs with ds3 and ds4 finally had a decent nap (2 hours) and as he fell asleep in my I had no choice but to sit and watch friends the entire time lol
My last cycle af arrive at 7dpo. I'm now on cd12. I'm not sure what's going to happen yet as I seem to be getting ready to O but I geared up to O a few times before eventually Oing on like cd32 last cycle so we shall see.



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[foxymrsg]

Argh you've just described my DH!! Lol! I shouldn't complain as you say as he is good in general and sooo much better than some of my friends DH's but honestly men really can't multi task!! He was the same as I had work today and he had his ds from previous marriage today too so all three boys and obviously that was too Much! Thing is he moaned that he was stuck indoors as too much hassle to go out which surprised me as usually he's an up and out person! So I suggested he go to an out door event that was on in the next town. He sake the boys if they wanted to go and they didn't so he didn't go! The. Moaned about it when I got home! I told him he's the adult he shouldn't let them dictate!! If he wants to go out then go out!! Lol! Men!!
I try not to moan too often as I know he's good and he's so hands on with the boys but it was just frustrating that I always let him go for a run etc no problem but all of a sudden he can't handle it when I'm in the next room exercising!! Ah well I'm sure tomorrow will be a better day! Lol
Ah agree with friends no matter what if nothing is on friends is fab god knows how many times I've seen them but they are still so funny!! Love it! Glad you took time out today for you too!
Oh hopefully you are o'ing soon! So hard when we just want our bodies to do what it's supposed to be doing and it's not!! Gah! Lol

[motherofboys]

I'm trying to just relax and go with it. I had the same problem last time and I keep telling myself if I hadn't then might have fallen pregnant sooner and would have had ds4. Although I don't want it to take that long again I try to tell myself that it's ok cos I'll get who I'm meant to get, when I'm meant to get him/her.
I have to give him credit. And be extra nice as I haven't yet told him that I've been invited to my friends 40th, in York, we live in kent so it will mean staying over night so he will have all 4 practically all weekend. It's not till February though so ds4 will be about 16 months.


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[foxymrsg]

Oh yes you need to stay in his good books! Lol! But then think you'll deserve a good weekend away even if you are preggers by then you'll at least be able to relax!
Yes think relaxing is the best way with it all! Think well all just send ourselves stir crazy otherwise! Lol

[motherofboys]

Yeah your right we'd all be completely mad if we did stress over it all. Didn't really do me any good last time anyway lol
Yeah I'm hoping that I'll be at that nice in between stage of pregnancy by feb, when the sickness is over and you have a manageable sized bump and can feel kicks etc but haven't gotten uncomfortable. It's going to be a surprise birthday dinner rather than a party. She's expecting to just go for a meal with her hubby and when she gets there a load of her friends will be sat there waiting at the table, so won't have to worry about keeping up with everyone else anyway. Then again might but be pregnant at all lol
I tried to take a photo earlier and my phone said my memory was too full. I've just spent an hour deleting a load of photos, I've had the phone since September and there were 4800 photos on it! Got it down to just over 1600. They are all on the laptop anyway and I have ally favourites printed out too. There were still bump pics and teeny newborn ds4 pictures. And the change in the bigger ones in less than a year is mad. Their faces are not as round now as they were then, they look older (lol) ds3 has lost his toddler cheeks and has a little boy face now.


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[foxymrsg]

Aw a surprise meal sounds wonderful! Yes hopefully you will be pregnant by then and in the lovely stages! Oh how exciting as you say so much changes in less than a year so you never know....
Aaaw their little faces! It's scary isn't it how much they change! I noticed that with ds1! His nursery pic is so much different from his reception pic and that's on,y a tears difference! He just looks older and wiser in his reception one! Lol! Think school really makes them grow up fast!!

[motherofboys]

They do change so much in such a short space of time. The bump pics and pics of ds4 as a newborn made me so much more broody lol


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[foxymrsg]

Lol I know waft you mean I'm on mega broody alert already and anything baby related especial pics of my two sends me crazy! Lol

[motherofboys]

I was going to dh "aww loooooook!" I've got that time hop app and that's bad enough. Today's were pictures from a trip to the zoo 3 years ago when they were 5, 3 and 1.


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[foxymrsg]

Aw cute! I keep meaning to die load the time hop app! I must do it! Live reminiscing! Bet it'll make me even more broody though! Lol! If that's even possible! Lol!

[motherofboys]

Yeah it doesn't help the broodiness.


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[foxymrsg]

Ooops think I need to spell check before hitting post! Lol!

[motherofboys]

Pmsl I do that so often, I worked out what you meant lol


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[foxymrsg]

Lol! Whenever someone sends me a text to correct their wrong text I'm like yeah no worries knew what you meant so much I hadn't even noticed it was wrong! Pmsl!

[motherofboys]

It's like that thing where it says only the first and last letter needs to be in the right place for the brain to be able to read it. Since having autocorrect though I have got so lazy with texting. I just tap roughly where the letters should be and let the phone sort it out ha ha made so many mistakes I annoyed myself so trying to correct them as I go but I still miss some or get excited trying to say something and send it too quickly lol


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[foxymrsg]

Lol that's it! Lol! So me too I talk fast when I'm excited and text even faster! Lol!

[motherofboys]

Boys are being difficult today. Now I'm wondering if I could cope with another and thinking why couldn't just one if them be a girl so that it would be easier to think about not having more. I always feel I'm being selfish by wanting more than 4 anyway but it's made harder by the fact that if I call it a day now I will never have a daughter


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[foxymrsg]

Argh ditto? Tbf ds1 has been an angel have had SIL round and her ds1 and mine played wonderfully together but ds2 was on a proper moan up today! Think it's his teeth! Days like today I wonder why I want another and think I'm crazy!!
Sil also brought round some muffins from sainsburys, so today has been a monumental cheat day! Lol! Ah well if I'm going to cheat I may as well do it properly! Haven't got on wii either so think today will need to be scratched s&d start again tomorrow! Lol!

[motherofboys]

I'm surprised I've managed to be good today. There was a fight and things thrown and blood. I think ds1 may scar between his eyebrows where ds2 threw gator golf at him! I've had 2 meals, no snacking and no meat. But yeah when you cheat there is no point doing it half hearted lol


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[foxymrsg]

Oh no! Sounds like a very stressed and eventful day!! Well done you for sticking to it today! That's excellent! Just think it's bedtime now.....ah soon be peace! Lol

[motherofboys]

I'm sure it will be better tomorrow..... I think.... I hope Lol
Everyone is asleep now though phew!


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[foxymrsg]

Ah I love bedtime! Lol! Even I'm in bed early tonight! Need to otherwise I'll prob eats bother 3000 calories!! Lol!
Ah did you watch obem tonight? Loved the couple at the end so sweet childhood sweethearts! Did feel envious when they had a girl though I'm not going to lie! Lol

[motherofboys]

I didn't, I've still been trying to catch up with the episodes that were on during the World Cup lol
I got hungry and ended up eating Pringles. I'm counting that as a 3rd meal lol think I'm still with in calories and all that


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[foxymrsg]

Surely Pringles must count as a third meal!! Lol! If you're in your cals great if not hey it's a cheat day it's all good! Lol!
Was so busy yesterday must have proper burned the calories. I did wii fit in the morning too! Did have a pack of hula hoops about 10:30pm last night as had been painting playroom since 7pm and worked my dinner off. Knew I'd feel awful this morning otherwise.
Think my blood sugar dropped the day I cheated on my diet just before dinner time. I reckon it's the big muffin I had as that was really the only big cheat I'd had before then! So of course to make myself feel better I had another half a muffin, dinner, maltesers and a bit of galaxy lol! If I'm gonna cheat I'm at least going to do it on nice stuff! Lol

[motherofboys]

That is the way to do it! Atomic said in one of my others posts that it's ok if you really want something sometimes to swap out a normal meal for that thing. That's what I did when I had Krispy Kreme doughnuts when it was my birthday. Doughnuts for breakfast!


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[foxymrsg]

Mmm doughnuts for breakfast! Sounds like heaven! Lol!

[motherofboys]

Wish I could do it every day lmao


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[motherofboys]

Watching blinking up baby, almost glad I don't have a girl lmao but at the same wish I did so I could go "she'll never wear that!"


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[foxymrsg]

Lol know exactly what you mean!

[motherofboys]

I can't remember if I ranted here about my friend who told me not to have more babies, but was trying for her 3rd and partners 6th. He was 5 boys, she has a pp. anyway she just messaged me on Facebook. She's pregnant. Bet she gets a girl, even though he has 5 boys already I just know she will be the one to have a girl, she's already got 1 and all his boys were with the same person so can't help thinking about the whole sway thing rather than it being his swimmers deciding.


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[foxymrsg]

Aw Hun bless you! It's so awful when that happens! You're happy for them and anyone else you wouldn't mind but she can't comment on your life when she's got that many kids!!
Found out yesterday a friends expecting a girl so she's got a pp. surprised how jealous I felt! Normally it doesn't bother me that much and normally I'll feel a twinge and move on. Thing is I really like this girl so am really pleased for her at the same time! Lucky enough I don't have to see her often!
Think it's hitting more as have been watching the calories and doing exercise and I've not lost any weight!! Now I've also injured my ankle no idea how so no exercise for me for awhile. Just feeling pretty low and sorry for myself at the moment think that's why it's affected me more!
On the plus side though my spray painting has been coming along really well in my kitchen hence why I've not been on here so much. Slow process but my dark ugly kitchen is becoming a lovely cream kitchen!.....ready for the next people to benefit! Lol!

[motherofboys]

Oh no hope your ankle heals quickly. Yeah my best friend had her 2nd girl in June. She wanted a boy and while I hoped she'd get what she wanted, and a boy would have been easier to deal with seeing and buying gifts for, I also felt that if she got what she wanted why couldn't i ? As I say she got a second girl in the end.


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[foxymrsg]

Thank you, have no idea what I've done to it but I'm resting it so hopefully that'll help!
Yes some people seem to get it all don't they!?! I know you're friend got two girls but some others get it and then rub it in! A friend of mine done that. She just had her third child, she already had a pigeon pair so didn't want a second boy as boys are whingy!! (Hers is but that's down to her!!) of course she's just had her second daughter back in April!!

[motherofboys]

Urgh I hate that when people tar all boys with the same brush because of their experience with one.


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[foxymrsg]

Exactly! Soo annoying! And rude!

[motherofboys]

AF arrived, I wasn't regularly charting. Just the odd opk and cp/cm check. So I can't pinpoint O. I could be anywhere between 8 and 13 dpo. I'm going to say I was 8, and so thats a 7 day LP. 1 more day than last cycle. Hopefully I'll continue to gain a day or 2 each cycle and maybe even have long enough in the next couple of cycles to not need to worry.

[foxymrsg]

Aw hopefully it's beginning to get closer to evening out! As you say even if it's 1-2 days extra a month it's not going to take long before you're back to normal hopefully

[motherofboys]

How's everyone else doing?


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[foxymrsg]

Tired! Ds2 decided a 5am wake up call was in order! Managed to get him off for another our then got DH to get up with him! Far too tired now though! But he's down for his morning nap already so works out well for us going out today!
Other than that alls good! Have had to knock exercise on the head for now due to my foot. It's still so painful! But I have physio tomorrow so hopefully that'll help! Diet is going out the window too! Trouble with doing the kitchen it's so hard to prepare meals! Can't wait to get back to it all tbh! How sad am I!? Lol

[motherofboys]

I've been terrible on the diet the last few days. Even snacking. But going to make the effort again.
I hope your foot heals soon.


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[Babybeaublue]

I'm back after a gd break lol
I'm not sure what's going on with my cycle. 4 days of pos opk is doing my head in :(

[motherofboys]

Welcome back. Last cycle I had a few days in a row of positives, then the next day I had one so dark it sucked colour from the control line. The next day I had my temp rise. Hope you get the same soon.


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[Babybeaublue]

Thanks. This is my chart what do you think?
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[motherofboys]

I dunno really, I'm out if practice with charts. The day I got my super strong pos I actually had a temp dip. Although I know the opk can predict between 12-36 hours so you can get a couple in a row.


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[Babybeaublue]

I've never had more than 2 days pos opk, and one has always come with temp dip. It really shouldn't have to be this difficult for us all :(

[motherofboys]

You're right it shouldn't.


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[motherofboys]

Also this diet must be affecting me more than I realised, made a rainbow cake this morning and I struggle to eat a whole slice of it, it was so sweet!


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[Babybeaublue]

Luckily I'm eating and drinking constantly on the he diet so don't have room for anything bad although I fancied a choc biscuit the other day, took one bite and felt sick because of the sweetness too.
Just finished my workout for the day thankfully.

[motherofboys]

It always seems so weird to think there's a diet that requires people to eat and drink more lol


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[Babybeaublue]

I know, it's actually hard going lol

[motherofboys]

I was going to ask what it's like to actually do it. I always imagine to just be like I used to eat, but I guess there must be more to it. Constant snacking is not a problem for me lmao


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[Babybeaublue]

I think it's the difference between what you want to eat and what you have to. I was never big on eggs but now it's 2 every day, same with red meat and dairy. And I know for a fact I never used to drink enough so now I'm peeing every 5 minutes

[motherofboys]

Yeah you're right I didn't really think of it that way. Just the amounts and how often really, and I must admit I am a pig lol


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[Babybeaublue]

Lol I think being told to do something is so much harder!
My eldest boy dog just jumped my female, at this rate my dog will be pregnant before I will. We got the other two neutered but not him cos he's on his last legs (or so we thought lol) she is quite small so we were afraid to put her thru an op (my friends dog died having it done) but I'm afraid she won't make it thru a birth either. I could happily go and neuter him myself right now

[motherofboys]

Oh no! Well let's hope for no puppies and 1 human baby lol


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[Babybeaublue]

Definitely!!!

[foxymrsg]

Aw hope you both get preggers soon! I can't imagine the he diet but then by the sounds of it it's pretty much my diet before LE!
My foot feels like it's slowly healing but worried I'll put it out when I start exercising though. But will take it easy to begin with.
I've been good and tried to still not snack and have been skipping breakfast. Apart from today, today I am scoffing popcorn on the sofa with ds1 watching films! Love a rainy day!

[motherofboys]

I think it's so much harder when the kids are home. Things like watching films with snacks, or baking, or even when things get hectic or stressful first thing I do I open the cupboard.


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[foxymrsg]

Definitely harder! Glad I'm not planning to sway till March at earliest in a way as atleast that way once ds1 is back at school I'll have 6 months to get in the groove again! Lol! Well....until October half term! Lol!

[Babybeaublue]

I have never skipped breakfast in my life, I would pass out lol always snacked too.

[foxymrsg]

Wow! I'm so jealous of you! Lol! :)
Do you think you're a laid back person? I'm an organiser! I plan and organise everything! Think this is why I've had boys! Lol!

[Babybeaublue]

I have to have routine and I have ocd (organisational)

[motherofboys]

It's funny how it works isn't it. Seems unfair that we can eat in similar patterns and yet have opposite genders from each other. In a way it's discouraging to know that we are doing all this stuff to change and yet might not get what we want, but at the same time it's good to know that even if we are not perfect and slipped into old patterns we still have a chance ya know.


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[ELP]

I have never skipped breakfast in my life, I would pass out lol always snacked too.

Same here, I am a constant sugary snacker, sweets biscuits, cakes lol, sugar junky !!

[ELP]

mobs :):wave: What snacks do you grab for usually? I had to switch to eating nuts and dried fruit for snacking when swaying for the boys.

[Babybeaublue]

How do people do it without swaying?!? Arrrggghhhh!!!!

[motherofboys]

I snack on junk usually. Although I do like those oaty cereal bars and like go ahead type biscuits and things full of nuts. But chocolate, cakes, sweets, are what I usually go for. But also with meals i would eat a lot of meat and in 2 meals I can exceed the days calories.


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[motherofboys]

Off topic but how annoying is it when people talk to you like you know nothing about babies. I put on Facebook about how I should have waited till after ds4 had eaten banana bread before getting dressed. My mums husband (I won't call him my step dad she married him about 5 years ago I've met him a handful of times and I can't say I've really taken to him) commented asking if it was a food fight so I just said no banana hands and dribble. And he replied about how he missed hienz chocolate rice pudding. So I said ds 4 only eats 'real' food now because he won't be spoon fed. He will spit out anything I put in his mouth so he can feed it to himself. He wrote "lol.....that's going to be interesting.....you do know he will start throwing it soon so the cats can try it"
Oh really? Babies throw food? I never knew! We actually did baby led weaning, so he has always had finger foods, same as ds3 but ds 1 and 2 were spoon fed and they both had a stage of not wanting me to feed them when they started finger foods.
I replied just saying he already does. It usually lands on ds2s plate, he has to be very vigilant. What I wanted to say was "good thing you warned me, I've never had a baby before!"
Urgh I know with Facebook you can't tell tone etc but he is a patronising git who always tries to make himself sound smarter than other people when my 8 year old could probably out smart him.


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[Babybeaublue]

I hate that. My best friend tried to tell me about babies when I had my 2nd. She has none :/ I think sometimes people just speak or comment as soon as the words come into their heads. I has someone absolutely astounded we had 4 girls, she kept repeating it and then said to dh I'm sure you feel let out. I could've happily slapped her and told her not to be so stupid.

[motherofboys]

I don't claim to know more than the next person on babies and children, but I think after 4 of them you know basic typical behaviour. I remember telling him that DS3 was in the smaller side, at least for my babies. 1 and 2 had been in larger sizes for their age ds3 was always in smaller sizes. He said "that'll be because the clothes were stretched when they others wore them" and laughed. Yeah or it could be that the others were on and above the 91st centile and ds3 was in the 25th.
I hate when people make out that you can't join in and bond with your children of a different gender. I sit and watch football, and marvel DVDs etc yes I'd love a girl but doesn't mean I get left out of boy things. Unless I choose not to take part and then it's so I can have a bit of peace lol


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[Babybeaublue]

Well he does sound like a bit of a nob lol
Kids love different things regardless of their gender don't they?

[motherofboys]

Yep, they are people after all arnt they. If adults can all have different interests and likes and dislikes then why can't children.

Gender desire is such a weird thing to experience and a weird place to be. I mean here we are saying how gender doesn't matter because each child is an individual, yet we still desperately want the opposite gender. Enough to change our diet and lifestyle to achieve that.
I get annoyed that people would assume I want a girl and would be disappointed to only have boys, because it's like saying my boys are second prize. Yet I was disappointed to hear I was having a 4th boy, and I do want a girl!


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[foxymrsg]

Agree it's very confusing and difficult! You are so grateful and happy for what you have but still feel a bit.....I don't know maybe incomplete? Is that the right word?
But yes you're not allowed to show it in public otherwise people think you're a monster!!

Your mums DH sounds like a right sort! Very patronising by the sounds of it!

Yes I do finding worrying that we can seem to do the sane things but end up with opposites but then I suppose there is no magic bullet to mane that difference! It could just be the subtlest changes between that's let us have what we have bad all our swaying may just tip the odds in our favour....

[motherofboys]

I hope so. Surely one of us will get our turn soon.


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[motherofboys]

Facebook is flooded with pictures of my friends new baby boy, after 3 girls. He was born early yesterday morning. She brought him home today. She must be on cloud 9. She has a healthy baby, which is enough to be joyful about, but she also got her dream gender. He is her last as well so there were no more chances. I simply cannot imagine that feeling. I don't think its one I'm ever going to experience and its making me very tearful today. AND AF is STILL here. Day 6, its very light/spotting, but still thats longer than usual.

[foxymrsg]

Oh Hun know what you mean! Hope you're ok it's so hard as you're happy for your friend but have this feeling defo down itll never be you feeling that delight! I'm the exact same! But why can't it be us!?! We could all fall pregnant soon and all have our DG! It could be the coin landing heads up for is next time who knows! At least were all going it our best shot!
Hope AF clears off soon! Maybe this is another step to you lp evening out?

[motherofboys]

I don't know why I let it bother me what other people get. I thought I was used to it by now, other people get girls, I don't. And she got a boy, so why is it effecting me so much?! I have boys. It should be the little pink bundles that upset me.



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[Babybeaublue]

I'm exactly the same it's like when someone has all the same gender you feel a sort of solidarity with them (or relief maybe that it's not just you) but then they get an opposite and it's like you are back to being the minority again. A friend of mine is having a girl after 2 boys and I was so pissed off when I found out. How bad is that?

[motherofboys]

Maybe that it. I know someone who had 2 boys, her 2nd exactly a month older than my 3rd, and we were ttc together. She really wanted a girl. She got pregnant and had her girl, before I even managed to conceive ds4. Knowing how much she had wanted her daughter and how she is always on about how much she loves the girly stuff with her. I tried to talk to her. But it's like she doesn't remember how desperately she wanted a girl now. Kinda like how old people look at a crying toddler and tut as if their child never cried.
I hate being like this. I just keep moaning about everything lately. Sorry guys.


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[Babybeaublue]

It's fine, I think everyone here understands. This is my last chance so I think it's hitting me harder when someone else gets their dg

[motherofboys]

I'm glad that we have this place to let it out. I feel horrible enough for feeling like this, and that genders important, I'd feel so much worse if I thought I was alone in this.


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[Mrs_Incredible]

We all understand. I don't think the want, need i suppose, or panic i felt knowing this was my very last shot, will ever leave me. The memory of the sadness might fade (hopefully) but after 10 years of longing I'll always remember the impact gd has, especially the past 7 years as that's when it wasn't guaranteed we would go for #3 or #4 xx

[foxymrsg]

I love this website there is no judgement! Even for people that have their DG. They stay here as support girl others as they've been through it and remember it, which I truly appreciate!
In real life and on a other certain forum which I no longer use, not so much! As you say they forget the pain they went through and forget others are still going through it! I hope we all get our DG and I hope if I do I never forget writing this post and will still support and encourage people who are feeling the way I feel right now.
It's a horrible feeling you're feeling sad that we don't have what we want but guilty for having what others long for and not being content with just that. But you can't help feelings we are human after all and thankfully we have here to vent and realise we are not alone!

[motherofboys]

I really thought I was getting somewhere and working through it and accepting that that's how things will be. Because if I get another boy then I've just got to accept that that's how things are. I know dh said a possible 6th but I don't know if that will ever happen. And even if it does, it's not impossible to get 6 boys. And then what? And I thought I was getting there. But lately everything's just been wrong again. Why can't I just be happy?


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[foxymrsg]

Aw I know what you mean sometimes it's just too hard. I'm feeling the same at the mo. FB doesn't help! Everyone I know is having a girl or if they don't know what they're having their 13 week scan pic screams girl nub BIG time so know it'll all be girls. Can't help but then think that all the girls will be taken and I won't get one.
It's ok to feel down Hun it's normal as it's feeling raw emotions and not even emotions you can show in public as people just don't get it!! But hey you might end up having a girl next, decide to have a sixth anyway and gave another girl! Anything is possible it could just be your turn for a little pink soon!

[motherofboys]

I just don't see it any more. I used to see it. Now it's just a dream.
I'm sure I'll get back in track and feel better soon. But I also know that no matter how hard I try and how many I have, I will always have boys.


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[Dreamofpink]

I just don't see it any more. I used to see it. Now it's just a dream.
I'm sure I'll get back in track and feel better soon. But I also know that no matter how hard I try and how many I have, I will always have boys.


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MOB, this is exactly how I've been feeling too ((hugs)) It's so tough isn't it? A lady I'm friends with is expecting dc5 & she already has my dream family of 2 DDs followed by 2DSs. I would never ask her but I envy that pure excitement that she must be feeling with no strong GD either way. My GD has been present for every pg and I resent that. I too feel that girls are some exotic species reserved for other people, not me. I have a friend with 5 boys, her youngest two are twins. I look at her & swing between feeling that the chances of us both having 5 boys must be slim or that I shouldn't ever expect to get a DD in 5 kids. I'm happy to go to 5 as I've always dreamed of a big family. I just wish this GD would bugger off!!

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[motherofboys]

Thanks for listening everyone. I feel so down right now, and I can't seem to pull myself out of it and carry on like I usually do. I can't even talk to DH about it as I don't think he really gets it. He wants a girl too, but I don't think enough to break his heart over. After we found out DS4 was a boy he thought it would be best to stop, he could obviously only make boys so what was the point in continuing, only to be disappointed each time. He came around in the end. And he said he would be happy with another 2. He even said he'd have as many as would make me happy, but he doesn't think more boys could make me happy.

[motherofboys]

Well I snuck off for a bit of a cry earlier. Then dh came home, we had wine and Chinese and I feel a bit better.


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[Kittybear]

Sending hugs Hun ((())) GD is a b*itch and a half and only those who have experienced it can ever understand; it's NOT about not loving the kids you do have (if anything I think GD makes us love and appreciate our kids more because of that early guilt) it's about feeling like there is still someone missing from your life.... We all understand Hun. I'm glad you are feeling better. X x

[foxymrsg]

Glad you're feeling better Hun! Sometimes a cry and alcohol can make all the difference!
And vent away it's what were here for! We all understand!

[motherofboys]

Thanks. I don't want to be the one bringing everyone down.
I wish I could just be happy about the prospect of another baby, as dreamofpink says with out GD hanging over my head and tarnishing everything. It ruined my 12 week scan because I spent the whole time looking for a nub and came away feeling like I hadnt even seen my baby.


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[Babybeaublue]

Do you think it's better to find out the gender before the birth? I didn't with my first but did with the rest.

[motherofboys]

I dunno. I always have found out. Ds1 I was far too excited and impatient. The rest I wanted a surprise but kept convincing myself I needed to know in case I had a girl and had to re- buy some things. Ds4 I thought it would be best to know so that I could work through any disappointment I felt before he was born. I was worried I'd have trouble bonding. If the next one could possibly be my last I would like a surprise to be able to say I've experienced both. Then again how much of a surprise is it when you have 4 of the same already lol I know now that I will bond. But I do worry that it could drag out the hope to be disappointed, or drag out the misery only to find at the end you got what you wanted anyway. Maybe that's my problem, I'm greedy, I want to experience everything. Never satisfied. That's why I want a girl and can't just be satisfied with my boys lol


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[Kittybear]

I don't think it's greedy Hun, I think it is a perfectly natural feeling (to want to raise/ experience both genders). IMO you only live once, so might as well live the life you want and love with as few regrets as possible :) xx

[foxymrsg]

I didn't find out with either of mine but defo will next time but pron won't tell anyone else. That way either way I can deal with it my own way. But with ds2 the final few weeks of my pregnancy were filled with anxiety over if it's a boy it girl. I'd love the surprise of a girl in the delivery room but dint think I could handle a third boy surprise I'd rather know but as I say not tell anyone so don't have to hear the condolences that everyone else can't wait to hand out!
Agree with the regrets though. My fav saying it everyone is that when I look back on my life as an old woman I will never regret the children I've had, just the ones I didn't when I am young enough to try once more. At least then I'll know if I have another boy I'll have given it my all and what will be will be. At least I can say I tried and I'll still have a beautiful boy.

[Mrs_Incredible]

I felt exactly the same MOB. Where's the surprise when i already have 3 boys. I was ill from 6/7 weeks. I was wondering if i was totally selfish having another baby instead of just enjoying our family. Dh was on board, but for me mainly, he would not have regretted NOT having another despite wanting a daughter badly too. He could have lived with it. When i was feeling permanently hung over, 99.9% sure it was ds4 on the way, i couldn't get excited. I felt rough and wondered how i would cope with the sadness when gender was confirmed. I felt i didn't deserve any baby. The scans were my high points, seeing a blob develop into a little wriggling baby was magical. At my 12 week scan she said it looked like a boy. I was very down but still loved my rainbow baby boy. But it was the end of the dream, my dream, and the worry of my being selfish and not being happy with my lot was playing on my mind. I was still feeling awful and i just hoped I'd get excited once the illness stage passed. So many mixed emotions. I guess i feel guilty and shallow at being giddy and so excited, lottery win happy, all over gender.... I'm sure it will haunt me just like gd has done. I'm still scared the harmony test, scans at 16&17 weeks turn out to be wrong xx

[motherofboys]

I was really hoping that once I am pregnant I'll be able to just say that the baby is whatever gender they are, there's no changing it now and just get on with it.
I don't want to find out but I was actually considering telling people that we already knew and it was a boy, I think I could deal with the 'another boy' comments easier than the 'wonder if you'll get a girl' comments and the 'if it's a girl will you stop?' Like I've only had so many to get a girl.
I think I need something else to take my mind off it all, but don't want to start anything that will just add to stress.
I've already got all ds2s birthday presents for October, and 2 of ds4s again for October, and a couple of Christmas presents. But everything I look at there's those reminders of the things I still can't buy.


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[Mrs_Incredible]

I has a blighted ovum just before this pg, i had loads of pg symptoms but the baby was not meant to be, so even though a sticky healthy growing bean was my priority, gender was still there, sometimes in the background and other times very much taking over my thoughts. I think its hard when you feel the way we do for it to not be an issue despite our best intentions xxx

[motherofboys]

Health is always the top priority but it would be so nice to just not care about gender. I was lucky in done respects as I did want boys first, so although I really didn't care that much with my first I was over the moon to be having a healthy boy. I know some people want a girl from that very first baby and just don't get them. That must be even harder.


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[foxymrsg]

I felt exactly the same MOB. Where's the surprise when i already have 3 boys. I was ill from 6/7 weeks. I was wondering if i was totally selfish having another baby instead of just enjoying our family. Dh was on board, but for me mainly, he would not have regretted NOT having another despite wanting a daughter badly too. He could have lived with it. When i was feeling permanently hung over, 99.9% sure it was ds4 on the way, i couldn't get excited. I felt rough and wondered how i would cope with the sadness when gender was confirmed. I felt i didn't deserve any baby. The scans were my high points, seeing a blob develop into a little wriggling baby was magical. At my 12 week scan she said it looked like a boy. I was very down but still loved my rainbow baby boy. But it was the end of the dream, my dream, and the worry of my being selfish and not being happy with my lot was playing on my mind. I was still feeling awful and i just hoped I'd get excited once the illness stage passed. So many mixed emotions. I guess i feel guilty and shallow at being giddy and so excited, lottery win happy, all over gender.... I'm sure it will haunt me just like gd has done. I'm still scared the harmony test, scans at 16&17 weeks turn out to be wrong xx

This! This is exactly the same as DH! He really wants a girl but will do it for he he could carry on not trying once more for a girl! I just know in my heart I can't! I need to at least try!
Soo delighted you've got your daughter baking away mrs incredible! Helps give us all hope I think!

[motherofboys]

I think this is the one place where I don't feel like "urgh SHE got a girl" because I know how hard people have tried and we are all in this together. I think that's why I feel like such a cow towards my friend who just had a boy. We first met through a forum similar to this but just for parenting after our 1st babies were born. Her girl in jan my boy in feb. We were both ttc number 2 quite quickly after so got chatting. Even then she wanted a boy and she joked about swapping when we both found out we were having another of what we already had. She looked into timing for her 3rd but had a 3rd girl. And it was more by luck than anything else that she got a boy for her 4th. I should be happy for her, and I am. But I still feel like why her and not me.


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[Babybeaublue]

I feel happy for the ladies on here too. I think it's because we are all working so damn hard for our dg while those irl seem to get it so easy it makes me mad. After my mmc I asked atomic to dial back my sway a bit as I was afraid it would happen again, but fast forward 2 months and I'm back in full swing ... even tho its still at the back of my mind that things could go wrong again.

[motherofboys]

You know what, it just hit me. Why I feel like this when I had wanted my friend to be happy and have the boy she dreamed of. I'm worried I've lost her. Like my other friend who, after 2 boys followed by a girl forgot what it was like to want a child of a certain gender so desperately. What if next time I try to talk to her about wanting a girl she just brushes me off? What if she now forgets what it was like? It's one more person to potentially hide my feelings from, one less person who understands me.


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[Mrs_Incredible]

You have us mob. Might be worth reminding her if she does brush you off tho, just say that it hurts to be brushed off when she understood before she got get dg. Nothing to lose by it. Then again, she might remember that pain enough to still be there for you. Xx

[motherofboys]

Thanks hun. I don't talk much about myself to my friends or family, I'm usually the listener, I even feel bad if I talk too much about me on forums LMAO So it could be a while until I even have to approach the subject.

[Babybeaublue]

I don't have anyone irl to talk to either. My best friend has 0 kids. My sisters got one of each straight away.
My temp dropped today :( I'm 9dpo and usually only get a 10 day lp

[motherofboys]

Ok I thought I replied to this yesterday but now can't see the reply.
My best friend recently had a little taste of GD and I'm not sure how she is doing with it now. It is something that's difficult to approach and a tricky ground to tread, even for those of us who have been there. Everyone deals with differently and it could be that she's ok with it all now and was just shocked as she was so certain that she'd have a boy.
Sorry about your temp dip.


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[Babybeaublue]

It went back up today :)
It can be hard to bring gd up. Some people can be very defensive. A friend of mine said with her first "it better not be a boy" and he was, but when preg with her 2nd (a girl) she was talking about how she would never say anything about wanting or not wanting one or the other as long as they are ok. All I could think was - you liar!!

[motherofboys]

She said that she 'couldn't get her head around the fact she's a girl' and that she got upset when she went with her mum to buy girls stuff instead of boys. So I think I'll probably ask if she's got used to her being a girl now, that way it isn't implying anything. I also worry what people will think of me if I reveal too much, so it will be hard to ask with out letting on to my own feelings.


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[motherofboys]

Oh and yay for temp rising again


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[Babybeaublue]

Thanks. Yeah I'd go with the being used to a girl thing. I don't like letting on either. I always just try to laugh off any "trying for a boy" comments. I always feel like, if I say I want a boy, then have a girl people will think I don't want a girl at all, but that's not true iykwim. Also, I feel like certain people would take pleasure in the fact I didn't get what I wanted.

[motherofboys]

I know what you mean. I always tell people that IF we do have another that at this point I'd rather have another boy as it would make life much simpler. And yes I know a couple of people that will have been happy that I didn't have a girl.

We found out today that hubby's paternal grandad actually had another child, from before he was married, so he was in fact a father of 4 boys not 3.



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[Babybeaublue]

My mum has 3 sisters and 4 daughters :/ my dad had 6 Bros 1 sister

[Babybeaublue]

Sooooooo. ...
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[motherofboys]

Dh grandad was 1 of 6 boys. It was always thought he had 3 boys, but turns out it was 4, one of his sons then had 3 boys, and we now have 4. Although oddly it wasn't dh dad that had the 3 boys, so wasn't a direct line.
My family was very girl heavy. My nan and her brother both had 1 daughter each, their mum had one of each, and before that there were 2 generations of girl, boy, followed by 4-5 more girls.


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[motherofboys]

OMG I didn't see your second post as it's on the next page!! Congratulations!!


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[Babybeaublue]

Lol thanks! hope it sticks x

[motherofboys]

Fingers crossed for a sticky one x


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[Mrs_Incredible]

HUGE CONGRATULATIONS!! So so happy for you. H&H 9 months :) xx

[foxymrsg]

Blue! That's fantastic news!! Massive massive congratulations!!

[Babybeaublue]

Thank you, I'm freaking out now tho cos I had some spotting this morning... I always think the worst.

[Mrs_Incredible]

It's only natural hon. Especially after a loss. Take it easy. Fx this is your sticky bean xxx

[motherofboys]

Fx for you and yes I think it's natural to freak out if you get some spotting.


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[foxymrsg]

Fx all is ok! I had spotting with ds2 and was implantation bleeding so hoping this is just the same for you too Hun

[motherofboys]

Babybeaublue how's things? Did the spotting stop? Hope all is well.
I want to thank you girls for putting up with me the other week when I was being all down on everything. I'm feeling better now. Not any more hopeful, but less like it matters


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[foxymrsg]

Ah we all go through it! It's just nice to gave a place to come were we all understand! :)
Yes babybeaublue I hope all is ok and spotting stopped!

[motherofboys]

I'm really hoping no news is good news for babybeaublue.
5dpo and I feel crampy, and just starting to see the first few spots that signal af and yesterday I was in one foul mood. I'm ok with not being pregnant this month but I really want to make it to next weekend before af shows so then I'll have had a long enough LP to not worry any more.

[motherofboys]

I'm starting to worry dh is going to pull the plug on ttc. He'd love another, especially a daughter, but he would also be happy with his 4 boys. He keeps talking about things in the future and they all just include the boys.


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[Mrs_Incredible]

Maybe he's just like my hubby, doesn't believe it will happen, and if its not real at the minute, it's not in his future? Men need to see to believe! I've washed loads of pink and how my hubby is starting to believe, I'm 29 weeks!! Xx

[motherofboys]

Maybe, he doesn't even say things like "and if we've got another by then"


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[Mrs_Incredible]

Neither did my dh!! I don't think we thought we'd get pg, never mind with our daughter, as dh is 39 & I'm 38. Swaying last time, it took 11 months and we were 4 years younger :) x

[foxymrsg]

Agree with mrs incredible! My DH never discusses anymore even though he knows it's what I desperately want and we have discussed swaying! He's now saying about going away next yr for his birthday! No mention of if I were to be pregnant or anything! I too think they need to see to believe! If it's not infring of them it doesn't need to be included!

[motherofboys]

I honestly think sometimes that he doesn't think he needs to worry about it right now. There was some baby programme on the other day (possibly In The Club) and he asked how long it would be till we moved. I just said it could be years. It's a sore point for me ATM because although we've been accepted to bid for council places, and I'm still looking at private rent places, he is being really difficult about areas. Anyway afterwards I thought how odd that he'd ask while that was on. Usually he'd make a teasing "you like babies" type of comment. Then I thought I bet he thinks that we won't have another till we move. He thinks he can just do his thing and I won't get pregnant until he wants me to. He agreed to NTNP, but I think he just assumes it won't happen yet.


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[motherofboys]

8 dpo today and still no af (yet)


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[Mrs_Incredible]

Fx for you!!! X


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[motherofboys]

I've already got the urge to test ha ha


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[Mrs_Incredible]

I've already got the urge to test ha ha


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Of course you do lol! I bought IC tests from eBay, nice and cheap and meant I could indulge my Poas obsession as early as I liked, and get line eye, makes it so much fun! GL xx


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[foxymrsg]

Ooo yes buy internet cheapies! I love them ! Love a very cheap addiction!....well it starts of cheap....lol! Abc if this isn't your month then I hope it's your lp lengthening out!
Ah men don't get it at all! I honestly think they don't know how to bring up the subject with us in case we demand that they give us a newborn baby right this instant! Cavemen through and through lol!

[foxymrsg]

Ooo yes buy internet cheapies! I love them ! Love a very cheap addiction!....well it starts of cheap....lol! Abc if this isn't your month then I hope it's your lp lengthening out!
Ah men don't get it at all! I honestly think they don't know how to bring up the subject with us in case we demand that they give us a newborn baby right this instant! Cavemen through and through lol!

[motherofboys]

Lmao. Can just imagine "give me a baby, now!" And he produces one from behind his back or something.
Did you know that things like crocodiles and geckos and such, if their eggs are kept at different temperatures it produces different genders. How awesome would that be? Turn the heating up love, I'm trying to grow a girl.
9dpi, no af. Caved and tested. Bfn. Back to school today for the biggest 2 so best get moving now lol


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[motherofboys]

Got some spotting now. Think af is finally on her way. If I don't fully come on till tomorrow do I count that as day 1? For the purpose of measuring my lp. I so wanted to make it to tomorrow so I could leave the stress of it behind.


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[motherofboys]

Looks like after almost 9 hours of spotting here and there af has finally started


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[Mrs_Incredible]

:( x

[motherofboys]

If she'd held off just 2 more hours it would have been today and I'd have been able to say I'd made it to 10 dpo. So close though. I guess increase is a good sign.


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[motherofboys]

What's going on with af, I get a little longer lp, and usually as my lp increases my af gets heavier. This time it's really light. It's cd4, but cd1 was mostly spotting. Cd2 was light. Cd3 was mostly spotting and cd4 is almost gone, occasionally spotting.


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[foxymrsg]

Sorry you got AF! Wonder why it's so light? Sometimes I get that though Exocet it to be heavy and it seems to be so light I wonder if I'd imagined it!

Lol about turning the heating god how cool would that be! Lol

[motherofboys]

I don't know if maybe it's because the hormones are trying to level out so I can get a full 2ww, and it wants to start but is also trying to hold off. Who knows. I guess I shouldn't moan really. Better light than heavy, doesn't feel as yuck lol


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[motherofboys]

I'm having a hard time again. They seem to be getting more frequent. I have a history of depression and I think I can feel it creeping in again. Just nothing seems to be right, and the fact I don't have a girl, and can't see it ever happening just makes it all SO much worse. I was asked today if I'd have any more babies, I usually give the answer of "I don't know yet, but I'm not ruling it out" or along those lines. So I said that. She said "hmm do you still want a girl?" STILL? Where has the still come from? I never told you I wanted a girl and I don't know you well enough to even think about confiding those feelings.

[foxymrsg]

People are morons, sorry but they are they think they know what we think, feel and want! Even though we do want girls (or boys) we don't necessarily go round telling everyone but everyone thinks that we must want the opposite to what we have. I would say ignore her but I know that's easier said than done! ((((Hugs))))

[motherofboys]

She just looked at me like 'yeah whatever' and changed the subject.


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[motherofboys]

Bloody dh one minute I think he is going to pull the plug on ttc all together because he doesn't even mention another child at all in the future. Now he won't stop talking about a girl. "Look at this bed, this is good if you had a girl" "look at all that girl stuff...imagine having a girl and having to do girl things" I'd rather not think about it any more. I still want it, but I know that's not what will happen for us so I would rather just think about the boy we will have and be ok with that, than let myself imagine what it would be like with a girl and have it be twice as hard to accept when I don't get her.
I know everyone will say there's always a chance and you never know. But I don't even want to hope right now.


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[Mrs_Incredible]

I felt exactly the same hon. Me and dh were convinced of a boy this time. I had 1% hope for a girl and even then i wouldn't give it more than a minute of head space. Hugs x

[motherofboys]

I know it's possible to get a girl after 4 boys, I just don't believe it can happen to me. And if I just accept that it will be easier in the long run.



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[Sweet mummy]

MOB I can only begin to imagine how you feel like it will never happen for you because you've already got four boys and just thinking about having a girl will jinx your next pregnancy before it has even begun. Just want you to know you are not the only one that feels this way. Every day I analyse and think I'm not worthy of having a daughter. That just the mere option entering my mind means it won't come to fruition. All I can say is I'm so glad we have got each other through this journey and we are open and honest enough to admit we are willing to try and sway the odds to get our desired gender.

Just keep your chin up and think positive! Next DC whether boy or girl will be just as loved and cherished as your boys xxx

[motherofboys]

Thanks, I do analyse everything. If I was better at this, or better at that, maybe I'd have been given a girl. Did I do something wrong? Is there some higher being (God or whatever you believe in) that can see that I'd be a really bad girl mum and that's why I haven't got one.
I know it's silly and that isn't how it works but that's certainly how it feels.


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[Babybeaublue]

Hi just checking in. Sorry you are feeling so low mob. I feel the same too, about maybe not being 'right' for a boy mum. I have been having 24hr nausea, which gets worse as the day goes on. I have actually been heaving while in the shower!!
Got an early scan booked for Tues and am a bit scared tbh after last time.
Hope you feel better soon x

[motherofboys]

Aww good to hear from you. Good luck for your scan. Feeling more positive again at the moment.

[motherofboys]

How did your scan go BBB?


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[motherofboys]

Oh and I stupidly thought wouldn't it be a great idea to forget about all the charting stuff for a month and just relax. I did very well, I only checked cp a couple of times and was aware of bloating and O pains. Now I could be anywhere between 4 and 7 dpo and going crazy not knowing how long I've got till af or testing lol


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[Babybeaublue]

Hi mob
I saw a little heartbeat!!!! Had to shed a tear of pure relief!
Still feeling really sick and have been in bed at 9 pm each night so haven't been on here much. I have never known it take so much effort to even have a shower let alone go shopping..
Maybe it's better you dont know when to test?? I know you wanted to check your lp was getting longer but sometimes we can go into every little detail too much. My lp was always 10 days, think I got to 11 before a couple of times.

[motherofboys]

So happy for you. That's fantastic news.

I'm sure I'll get 10 days this month, I'm a crazy early tester so it's probably best I don't know. I'm trying to go by the latest possible O date, then if I get to 9/10dpo from that date I will test.


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[Babybeaublue]

Good luck!!!! :)

[Mrs_Incredible]

Hi ladies. Congrats bbb. Mob, hoping this is your month! Xx

[motherofboys]

Apparently I have no tests left, I thought I had a few and went to count how many to see of I would most likely need more but they were opks now hpt. So I couldn't test even if I wanted to. By the time any more arrive I'd be due on from my latest possible date.


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[foxymrsg]

Any signs or symptoms yet Hun?

[foxymrsg]

Ah baby welcome back I'm so so pleased everything ok!!

[motherofboys]

My tests arrived yesterday. Bfn. I had 1 tiny bit of spotting on Tuesday evening. 1 tiny bit yesterday afternoon. And that's it. By the latest possible O date I am 10 dpo!! Finally!


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[motherofboys]

Still nothing. Although some slight cramps now. I'm shopping with a friend tomorrow so I expect she's waiting to show up while I'm out or something just to be inconvenient.


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[foxymrsg]

Oh pants! Did she show in the end?

[motherofboys]

Sorry forgot to update. Yes she did. Friday morning just in time for shopping and no more spotting just full on. But I would have been 11dpo so I'm happy with that. I get a night out with friends on the 17th, without excuses for not drinking and should be just before O so I don't have to worry about what if I'm pregnant. And I actually have a chance at getting pregnant this month. I'm going to give it one month of charting I think once af has gone, just to confirm the lp length.


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[Babybeaublue]

Really hope it will be your month next time x

[motherofboys]

Thanks.
How are you ladies all getting on?


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[foxymrsg]

Fantastic so pleased your lp has finally lengthened. I so hope next month is your month!
Enjoy your night out get on it big time lol itll take the strsss out of trying and you may just conceive that night! Lol!

[motherofboys]

Sweet mummy, I tried to reply to your message but your inbox is full lol


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[motherofboys]

Aw no, poor little doggy :( and hugs to you, feeling so rough.


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[motherofboys]

Looks like another af is on her way. Spotting has started, just like the last few cycles.


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[Babybeaublue]

Ah no that's poo. Keep hoping for you.

This was my face when I found out my cousin is having a boy after 3 girls

[motherofboys]

Oh wow, I've got a few pregnant friends atm (not from here) with a few boys each (2-3) and I'm convinced they are having girls. Can't imagine it in the family.

[Babybeaublue]

I use the term cousin loosely. It's her dad that's my cousin and we are not close at all.

[motherofboys]

Ah I see. We are the only ones still having babies in either of our families. My brothers are not interested, 1 has a daughter he doesn't see.
Dh is older than me so his family all have kids in their teens and early 20s, that's what will be next, his nieces and nephews starting families.


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[Babybeaublue]

Yeah my sisters are all done. My eldest niece and nephew are almost 26!!

[foxymrsg]

Ah so sorry to hear about your dog! Bless her!
Hope your feeling of fainting subsides soon too!
Urgh know the feeling when someone gets what they want! Fed up with it tbh! Have you had your NT scan yet?

[Babybeaublue]

Yes but I had it at 11+5 so too early for guesses lol. Have to wait til Dec for my 20 week one.

[Mrs_Incredible]

Ah well, at least you saw baby :) xxx

[motherofboys]

Someone I know in the GD section of another site found out she's having a girl after 4 boys. I had to fight back tears as I congratulated her. I should probably find it encouraging but I feel like if there's 2 of us with 4 boys, we won't both get girls, if she's getting her girl then I won't be getting mine.


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[Babybeaublue]

It's hard, it just feels like it will never be you.... It feels like the amount of people with same gender families that I know is getting smaller and smaller.

[motherofboys]

I noticed the other day some one I knew who moved away commented on a mutual friends Facebook status and she's just had a girl after 3 boys and 2 other people I know on Facebook are expect girls, 1 after 3 boys the other after 4.
I know that it isn't going to be me.


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[Boom]

I noticed the other day some one I knew who moved away commented on a mutual friends Facebook status and she's just had a girl after 3 boys and 2 other people I know on Facebook are expect girls, 1 after 3 boys the other after 4.
I know that it isn't going to be me.


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I feel that way sometimes, but i just tell myself that it's proof it can happen for me too xxxxx

[motherofboys]

I see people who already have had their girl after a few boys as the proof. Anyone who was ttc at the same time as me is just narrowing my odds. Don't get me wrong it's great for those who have heard girl, they are over the moon and deserve to be. It just makes me even more certain that I have no chance.


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[motherofboys]

Sweet mummy, your inbox is full again lol have you emptied your 'sent' box? I think that counts as part of your quota x


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[Sweet mummy]

Just did! Kind of figured it was full again when I got a notification you sent a message but didn't get one :) xx

[motherofboys]

Ha ha! I've replied now.


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[motherofboys]

Hows everyone doing?