December 2WW

[sageviolet]

lol, XX your dh sounds like a real sweetheart. Go ahead and poas before he does! lol

[MyByC]

XX, thats suuuperrr! Praying for you!

[Blue-Blue-Pink?]

Haha, nice gift! I hope they'll bring you good news XX!

[maidentomother]

Ugee, thank you! I hope so! September/Virgo is my second choice (Sagittarius/December my first), but I would rather be pregnant sooner plus I think it's nicer to have a bday in September. Also it seems like cold weather late pregnancy maternity wear is probably really annoying/hard to find.

XX, your DH is such an awesome, thoughtful sounding guy. :) I will test on the 17th with you (if I can hold off testing on the 16th)! Though I'm 6 hours ahead...how early do you get up usually?

[XXforhubby]

Thanks ladies! I am so glad to have found such a supportive group of gals 😊! I don't know why I feel I will be out this time.

Maiden- I usually get up with my boys around 8am, and that is when I'll test. That should work for us!





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[keepthefaith]

Hey girls well signs of AF here so counting myself out and hopefully 2nd time lucky on New Years eve! Test this morning must have been evap!! Will enjoy Christmas as best can whilst sticking to diet/exercise! Good luck to everyone still waiting on bfps!

[XXforhubby]

Keepthefaith- if I don't get my BFP this cycle, we will be cycle buddies in January! I am set to O anywhere from 1st-5th!!

I sure hope you get your BFP soon! I know how hard it is to keep on this roller coaster ride of ttcing!


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[keepthefaith]

Hope you get bfp Hun but if not you are welcome to join me! Xx



Keepthefaith- if I don't get my BFP this cycle, we will be cycle buddies in January! I am set to O anywhere from 1st-5th!!

I sure hope you get your BFP soon! I know how hard it is to keep on this roller coaster ride of ttcing!


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[XXforhubby]

Uh, my hormones are still out of wack and rebalancing, or something is going on! After getting up from reading DH's doctoral assignment, I was SO lightheaded and dizzy for several minutes! I had to put my head between my legs and breathe!

DH was so cute and thinks I should use a FRER tomorrow. Seriously, HE is a total poas addict!!

I hope I am not coming down with something. I am trying not to get my hopes up.

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[Junie]

KTF: are you sure about AF? I still hope/think you are pregnant. Did you test again with FMU?

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[keepthefaith]

KTF: are you sure about AF? I still hope/think you are pregnant. Did you test again with FMU?

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Junie woke up this morning to full on AF so def no doubts now.

Things I have learned from cycle one that I'll do differently next month ......
1 not test until officially late (was obsessed poas addict for few days there ��)
2. Hide the tests I've bought so can't be tempted!
3. Try not to symptom spot as makes 2ww so long, plus now realise all these things I thought I was feeling were actually nothing!!
Cycle day 1 here I go again .........

[pkdream]

Hey Ladies joining you again. Our sway has officially ended, we just want to get pregnant now and I think I went overboard and lost too much weight tbh. Still skipping breakfast and not going crazy with the amount I'm eating but definitely over on protein and fat most days and have cut to zero exercise. Just had our attempt so assuming I do O tomorrow as predicted 10dpo would be Xmas day. Anyone else expecting to be testing that morning?

[maidentomother]

KTF, I am so sorry the witch found you. I too will be Oing right at the beginning of January if this cycle doesn't work out. Sending you willpower to deal with holiday treats!

pkdream, welcome!

I ran out of Vitex (didn't realize I was almost out, and I get it from the UK which can take 2 weeks). I really hope stopping Vitex suddenly doesn't upset anything. On Monday I will see if I can find some substitute in the interim. I have also been almost snacking. I've been really hungry and eating like 4 meals instead of my usual 2-3. Definitely not always fasting overnight for very long, either. This is never a problem unless Im actively TTC, grr. Early this am I was literally shrieking from the sharp stabbing on my right ovary. I do typically get ovarian pain all cycle long these days, though!

[Junie]

I'm so sorry KTF!! I hope next cycle is your BFP cycle!!

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[happy1981]

Hello ladies. This is our 5th cycle TTC pink. I am worried and frustrated since it only took us 3 cycles TTC DS. I know 5 cycles is still perfectly normal but it's in my nature to worry and try to solve any potential problems (typical boy mom?!).

This cycle I started Vitex. Pos OPK on CD 13 and 14. DTD on CD10 and CD14. 9DPO I started getting small traces of blood in CM. Tested and BFN. Tested yesterday evening on 10DPO and BFN. This morning there was a bit of blood when I wiped and since brown discharge. Temp is still high.

I don't want to test again until I am late to avoid disappointment.

Can Vitex cause spotting, anyone with experience?

GL to everyone!!

[XXforhubby]

Welcome happy1981! I can relate to how you feel- we are on cycle 5 too! DS1 was a OHW, and DS2 only took 2 cycles.

I took Vitex 400mg of Nature's Way brand 2X a day from AF-O, and I had spotting. Very light like what you mentioned and on the exact same CDs the first cycle I took it. The second cycle I took it, I had actually spotting from CD8-CD15 until I stopped taking it. I no longer take it, since it has that effect on me. I am very sensitive to herbs and medicine in general though.

GL and I wish we all get our BFPs soon!!


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[MyByC]

Happy, I think this was your implantation. So test again in 2-3 days :-)

[maidentomother]

Happy, this is also my 5th cycle TTC so I know how you feel. I don't usually spot during my LP on Vitex (though it's common), but I spot up until CD10+ on it which is really annoying since my AF is usually 3 days.

I had some EWCM today. Just a bit, but I've NEVER had EWCM so far after O before. Maybe stopping the Vitex? Trying not to pregnancy symptom spot!

[Mars]

Hey ladies. Just a quick one, I tested and a BFN so I reckon I'm out. AF is due around the 16th so I'll see but I would be ok with not being pg this month.

[maidentomother]

I'm sorry Mars, fx AF stays aways. You have a great attitude.

[MyByC]

Mars, I admire you. So strong. Buuut, still be positive. It might come a BFP instead of AF.

[happy1981]

XXforhubby:
Thanks! What made you try Vitex?

MyByC:
I hope so! of course the timing of the spotting makes me think implantation and with DS I was spotting and bleeding before I got a BFP. Still. I'm thinking it's probably due to the Vitex. I will test again on CD 14 if no AF.

Maidentomother:
How long have you been on Vitex? I'm keeping my fingers crossed this is our month!

[keepthefaith]

Hey ladies. Just a quick one, I tested and a BFN so I reckon I'm out. AF is due around the 16th so I'll see but I would be ok with not being pg this month.

Few of us ready to join a January 2ww in few weeks hun x

[happy1981]

I mean 14dpo and not CD14! *confused*

[MyByC]

I spotted on Clomid before AF with 5 days..I know nothing about Vitex.

[XXforhubby]

Happy1981- I tried Vitex because I wasn't getting positive opks while nursing. As it turned out, the Vitex messed up my cycles more than if I had just waited. Oh well, live and learn! I am still nursing but only 3-4 times a day now instead of 6-8 like I was 4 months ago when we first started to ttc.


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[Mars]

So AF arrived! Thanks ladies for your kind words but really I am ok with this as I was looking forward to drinking plus my diet has been terrible and I need to loose some weight only a couple kilos but still it's making me feel yuck! I've also got a huge couple weeks of work ahead so I will be chatting with some of you in the Jan 2ww. Funny that I should O around NYE lol. my husband will be happy with that!

[XXforhubby]

Sorry to hear that Mars, but it sounds like you are taking it well. I may O around my anniversary, which is the 3rd. My DH will be happy about that too!!



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[maidentomother]

Mars, so sorry AF came. But like you said, maybe it's for the best and next month will give you a better shot at a girl. Personally, I'm a big believer in fate.

happy, I started taking Vitex in February of this year, took it for almost 5 months, then took a sway break over the summer until starting it up again in September. I had been on it almost exactly 3 months when I Oed this cycle. If you're interested I can link to my charts and you can see the difference between Vitex and non Vitex charts.

XX, I love your quote! I am a HUGE Wharton fan.

[XXforhubby]

Maiden- we seem to have a lot in common! I had a thought about the O pain we are still having. I bet it is the Corpus Luteum churning out ample progesterone. I don't usually get this so I hope it is a good sign that my hormones are FINALLY getting back to normal again.

FX for us ladies waiting to test, either BFP or opk.


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[maidentomother]

I think it's the CL too. The pain is definitely too far to the right to be in my uterus, and fortunately it doesn't feel at all like the sensation I had with my ovarian ectopic.

My right breast is killing me! My left is also tender but not nearly as much. I know it's mostly related to my surgery, as this is the firsr LP I've had since my fat transfer into my right breast. My liposuction incisions have been extra painful, too (even though they LOOK great). I think all the progesterone is inflaming things, so to speak. It's quite incapicitating though - my trip to the grocery store 2 days ago was brutal.

This morning after being up only an hour (so at 10am) I got so hungry, my stomach felt like an empty pit and I knew I'd be sick if I didn't eat. So I ate a Larabar type thing. I could definitely eat more but I'm try to hold out a bit.

As long as I'm symptom spotting like a crazy person (watch, I won't be pregnant just have 2 mega cysts), along with the EWCM I had yesterday I got aroused while reading. Bc of the major libido dampening effects of my pain meds, and possibly also due to romance/erotica burnout, that rarely happens and never after O. Right before/during O or during AF is usually the only time I can hope for tinglies. But I was crazy horny early on in my last pregnancy.

I hate 6&7DPO, so close yet so far!

[XXforhubby]

Maiden- I have been having creamy CM too! I freaked out the night before when DH and I BD (we keep up every 4 days just in case), I was spotting! It went away and has never come back. It is 3 days before AF now, and I usually spot. I keep telling myself it is just adequate progesterone production, FINALLY! My boobs and nipples have been tender off and on too. Today I am struggling with not eating breakfast. I too may have a little yogurt with fruit around 10, if I can make it that long! All of this can be progesterone related though. If I am not pregnant I am still happy to know my hormones are getting back to, or at, normal after discontinuing that supplement I was on. Either way I am happy!!

FX though!!!!!


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[MyByC]

XX, dear, I really hope you have a BFP in 3 days 😁😁😁

[happy1981]

Anyone see a line or am I hallucinating?! 2259422594

[Ugee]

I see a line happy1981!!! Congratulations! How many dpo are you?

[keepthefaith]

So AF arrived! Thanks ladies for your kind words but really I am ok with this as I was looking forward to drinking plus my diet has been terrible and I need to loose some weight only a couple kilos but still it's making me feel yuck! I've also got a huge couple weeks of work ahead so I will be chatting with some of you in the Jan 2ww. Funny that I should O around NYE lol. my husband will be happy with that!



We can stick together I'm due to ov New Years eve too!!

[keepthefaith]

Anyone see a line or am I hallucinating?! 2259422594


Very clear line!!! Congrats!!!!

[happy1981]

Ugee: I think I am 11dpo. I can't believe it. I hope it's a sticky one!

[MyByC]

Congrats Happy! ❤️

[pkdream]

Def. a line. Congrats happy, hope you have a happy nine months!

[maidentomother]

Happy, congrats! I see that and I only see proper lines. :)

XX, can't get over how similar we've been this cycle. However, I fear I'm out. Early afternoon I decided I would try to test with super concentrated urine since I hadn't drunk much. Well, as soon as I pulled my pants doen I noticed blood. Kind of a weird colour for me, in between red and brown. My spotting is usually brown; I do have cycles where I spot, sometimes for as many 4 days before AF, but typically the spotting is very light, often just like a beige-y tinge to my creamy CM. Oh and for whatever reason, I spot more often in hyperO cycles. But this was a lot heavier than my typical spotting. I wouldn't call it heavy, maybe 'medium' spotting. And I'm only 7DPO! All 6 times I've been pregnant I never had any spotting so I am not hopeful. Needless to say I didn't test; I will just wait for AF now. My LP is erratic and often short, as short as 8 days in the past years. I'm super worried stopping the Vitex is to blame. :/

[XXforhubby]

Happy- congrats! I am hoping for a healthy sticky bean!!!

Maiden- I am hoping that it is implantation bleeding! You said that it is different from your usual pre-AF spotting. I am keeping my FX for you!!

I am at peace with whatever happens. I am glad that things appear to be balancing out for me. Over the next few days I am going to try to get rid of excess clutter in my house (easier said than done!). We have a cozy home and cannot help having toys out, but in an organized manner. I am going to clear my house of any negative energy. I bought some white sage to burn, Tibetan cymbals, clear quartz and citrine crystals. I hope to do this before AF starts to begin a new cycle fresh and clear!

I better get started on my "homework" after nap time 😉!

GL ladies, for those with BFPs- may you have a healthy pregnancy, for those waiting- may you find peace and strength while you wait for positive opk of BFP!


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[MyByC]

Maiden, this is your implantation, you'll see! Let's just wait! Test Wednesday morning with digital test. Can't wait for update.
I have this feeling again that you will all get a BFP by Christmas..and new friends for me in January 😊

[Rosie85]

Been a while since I have logged on. Congrats to those with BFP's!

We have decided to forgo ttc for now. My husband applied for a promotion in Texas and if he gets it I don't want to be pregnant and sick while moving.

I did notice this month though that I didn't ovulate until cd18. I have 26-28 day cycles. Yikes.

[maidentomother]

XX, thank you for your optimism! I just LOVE your cleansing ritual ideal - I was into Wicca/paganism when I was younger and it's still of great interest and meaning to me. I have a huge crystal/semiprecious gemstone collection and also a hobby herbalist (both gardening & therapeutic use). Most recently, I've done some successful rituals with candles, visualization & vocalization using natural voodoo oils from sn awesome natural perfume company called Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab. Unfortunately I don't have my huge oil collection here - though I'm not sure I have the particular oils I'd need, probably I don't - or your idea would totally inspire me to do a fertility rite. I guess I'll have to order some though it will take a few months to get them, sigh. Maybe I can find them secondhand on ebay or the forums. If so, I'd be happy to do a ritual for you or anyone else on here who's interested. I'd just need a photo or a handwritten note to use as a focus. Thanks again for reminding me of the option!

MyByC, you are so sweet and so supportive, and I desperately hope your feeling is right! Thank you for the good energy. I only have some unknown quality cheap pregnancy test strips (2 different brands, at least one is 20miu sensitivity), 2 FRERs imported from England, 2 different early pregnancy tests I got at local German pharmacies, and 1 or maybe 2 CB digital - but it's not the more sensitive weeks estimator one, unfortunately, so I definitely won't test with it unless I get a BFP on something else first. Unfortunately, I'm really afraid to test now and I may just wait for AF, which may well come very soon anyway.

9 hours after I first noticed the spotting, I checked again and it seemed almost completely gone, just tiny traces of dull brown mixed with EWCM (again, after having EWCM yesterday). But then a few minutes later I felt a little gush, and wiped a small amount of totally brown blood mixed with CM. I'm hoping it's older blood and that gush was the last of the spotting. However, my mild cramping then started to rapidly increase until after an hour it got so bad I took some ibuprofen. The moderate-severe cramping and spotting make me very pessimistic, my only ray of hope is the EWCM since that's a true anomaly for me and I know it can be a good sign. I'm just so thankful I have you ladies online to talk to and I SO appreciate your listening and support. <3

[maidentomother]

Rosie, my cycles average 28-29 days and I O at all different times but CD18 is my average, so I wouldn't be too concerned though I know it's upsetting to have weird/different cycles especially if you're usually like clockwork. I hope DH gets the promotion, how exciting! Where in Texas would you move to and where do you live currently? Wishing you all the best with that & praying you conceive quickly when you desire to. I just KNOW your girl is out there, waiting to be united with her mama & family.

[XXforhubby]

Well Maiden the same thing happened to me about 6 hours after you had posted noticing brief, red spotting. I too feel that AF is coming. I am focusing on decluttering/cleaning house. Someone once told me if something is not happening for you, check to see if you have made room. I guess I am making room! Plus, it is keeping me occupied in a healthy way. I will only test now if AF is truly late or super light. I want to stay ignorant in case it is another chemical.


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[MyByC]

Maiden, thank you.
I was down..with my heart as little as a flea last 2 cycles when waiting for AF/BFP...was waiting every day...trying not to think, not to read, not to spot symptoms..but did all these and in the end, I asked God to send me AF or BFP and not to wait anymore.

I know perfectly how each of you feel, but only by staying positive we can go throw this. I am SURE that soon or later, for each of us BFP will come! Do not worry, not crying, not ruin your holidays.

I really hope you both get your BFP this cycle! It's your turn now.

[XXforhubby]

I think it is normal to get excited to try and while we wait. I think it is natural to be disappointed/ upset when AF comes. For some strange reason I am not even the least bit disappointed/sad to see my pre-AF spotting to herald another AF. Why? I'm not sure. I truly feel at peace with it taking the time that is needed to get my BFP. Maybe being preoccupied by doing something productive like clearing the space in my home has helped. All of us feel so much better!

GL to those waiting, may you find peace and strength!


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[Rosie85]

Thanks maiden! We currently live in Minnesota. We would be moving to Dallas Texas. So quite the move...opposite side of the country. It's really cold here right now so I'm really hoping my dh gets the job so i can get somewhere warm!

[maidentomother]

XX, I've always thought red spotting was a good sign (I never get red spotting before AF). I hope it is for you. Regardless of what happens I'm so glad you're feeling calm/positive/productive. Fortunately, I am also okay if AF comes - I feel I will get my BFP when I'm meant to and I'm fine with that. Oh, and I really understand about not wanting to test at this point.

MyByC, you understand so well - it's the waiting & symptom spotting - as normal and natural as it is to do those things, that are so frustrating. Especially for us control freak types! I just hate not knowing what's going on, being in limbo. Fortunately a BFN won't ruin my holidays (though I might cry a bit briefly, that's good for me, cathartic) - bc I am okay with a BFN plus I don't celebrate Christmas so this time of year isn't anything special for me. Never been into NYE, either. Thanksgiving, Passover, Samhain...those are my holidays!

No more spotting today, my cramps have dissipated almost completely, it's my 3rd day of EWCM, and I had a nice temp jump this morning. Unfortunately I have a migraine, second one this month, but that could be a good sign. For sure my hormones are doing something!

[katewantsagirl]

Hi ladies!! Haven't been on Genderdreaming in awhile!! I have two boys and a girl (after being on genderdreaming����). So my last period I think started nov 25th. I am breastfeeding an 11m old so not real regular yet. Dh and I got drunk and had unprotected sex on 13th dec. he pulled out but I'm hoping that some little spermies got all up in it. I had a bright red spot after and then some brownish discharge for two days. Not sure if it was O or just from having sex. Ugh the tww sucks!! Been abit crampy I'm hoping it's a babe burying itself in there!!

[MyByC]

Hmm, sounds like an implantation to me Kate ❤️

[XXforhubby]

Moving on to January and and cycle #6. Having trouble....I always do when AF shows, sigh.

GL ladies waiting to test.


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[Junie]

Big big hugs XX!

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[MyByC]

XX, dear, AF came?

[maidentomother]

XX, I'm sorry. So you never tested eh? I just did, BFN at 9DPO. Though if the cheap HPTs here suck as much as the cheap OPKs, maybe they're just not sensitive enough? My nipples are on fire, but my temp dropped .3 today and my cramping came back, so not feeling hopeful at all. I'm just hoping to have a decent LP at this point.

Kate, I hope you have your second DD in there.

[sageviolet]

xx - *hugs* I've heard that saying about making room and tried it, too! It worked for getting dh to come into my life.

maiden - *hugs* I've had ewcm just before af these past couple of cycles. It's predictable now, 2 days before af I get ewcm better than at o time, but no spotting and my temp starts to dip.

rosie - Good to hear from you! GL with the promotion and potential move.

Not much to report here. Still waiting to o. Enjoying all the bding! I don't like to bd while preg, so it's the highlight of ttc, the one bright spot in taking so long, lol. I think dh is getting worn out though, and I know he'll be happy when we get a bfp.

[XXforhubby]

Well AF is being a b!$&h and is messing with me! So I had that red/brown spotting yesterday, enough to fake me out to put a pad on. I never filled it and could have used a panty liner instead. When I nursed DS2 ITMN, I felt cramping and what felt like a gush. After I put him down there was NOTHING- only when I wiped! I woke up this morning to CRAMPS and was sure there would be something on my overnight pad (see, I was sure AF was here) and there is NOTHING on it! Again, only redish/orange when I wipe. WTH?!!! Of course I peed before I could poas :/.

Anyone on here get a BFP while still nursing? If you had implantation bleeding/spotting, did the spotting increase slightly when you nursed, then decrease? My period flow does that, just wondering IB would too.

AF is probably faking me out, and she will show in a few....that is just like the witch!!

Thanks for letting me vent


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[MyByC]

Make room? Like mental or ...?

[MyByC]

XX, I hope AF is not comming!

[Junie]

What a rollercoaster ride XX! I really hope you are pregnant!!

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[purplepoet20]

Hi everyone I am in the 2ww as of today. I wasn't actually trying this time or for the last few months but I O'd early. I had planned to follow a girl diet from Jan-Aug when I wanted to try again.

So right now, I am still recovering from a really bad stomach bug almost a year ago, I am still on a very low pro/cal/salt/sugar diet while having lots of greek yogurt drinks, cottage cheese, almonds, rice and noodles, corn, diet soda, and crystal light. We DTD only 3 and 4 days before O so who knows how this will go. I am still nursing my 2yo about 3-4 times a day.

[maidentomother]

Welcome purple!

XX, that is bizarre. I wish I had some input but have never nursed, obviously. But I'm praying the weirdness means you're pregnant!

My cramping calmed down again. Still feel like AF could arrive at any moment. Argh.

[katewantsagirl]

Xxforhubby, I had spotting up until 15weeks with all 3. It was like I started to get AF and was so gutted but it just never fully came. It could just be breakthrough bleeding? How many DPO? I'm breastfeeding too so have no idea what kind of effect that has on TTC! Good luck x

[XXforhubby]

I am 10dpo today. I won't be surprised if AF comes. At least my hormones seem to be balancing out from a supplement I was taking (not for swaying) that caused my FSH to be sky high! It appears I have gone back to my normal 2 days pre-AF spotting before normal flow. We'll see. If I never get a full flow, I may test, or I could just have a light period. Who knows what is normal anymore when ttcing!! Lol!


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[Mars]

XX I think it sounds very promising!!

[XXforhubby]

I keep thinking AF will show, but I am only having light spotting and no cramps. We'll see. I bet AF is just messing with me!

GL ladies waiting, I hope you get your BFPs!!


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[XXforhubby]

Um, either I am sick or I just got a HUGE temp spike! I have been taking my temp only in the LP ( I know not as accurate, but I used to chart for years and know my ranges). I have never been this high like I have been! Yesterday I had a dip but today it jumped back up to 99!!!!! Before my dip yesterday it was between 98.8 and 99!!!!! Watch, the b!$&h AF is messing with me, and she'll show up late!! At least I know I don't have a progesterone issue!!!

FX!


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[maidentomother]

XX, so weird. 8DPO, temp was 99. 9DPO, temp was 98.8. Today, back up to 99. Not atypical temps for me at this stage though, so it doesn't mean anything. Especially since I tested BFN today. :( But maybe you should test?

I think it's likely I have a hemorrhagic cyst or two, regardless of potential pregnancy. I seem to be prone them ever since my ovarian ectopic, particularly in hyper O months.

[XXforhubby]

Yeah, I will test on Sunday if AF doesn't show. I am spotting constantly but no cramping and not enough for a pad. My prep-AF spotting I always have cramping, which Is how I know AF is coming. This is weird though but maybe just a light period. Before I had DS2 I was blessed with super light periods with only a day or two of cramping. Maybe this is AF?

Let's place a bet shall we? I wager AF is coming!


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[Junie]

I'll gladly bet you're pregnant :D

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[maidentomother]

I'd bet if you were temping and not BFing. But I bet AF will come for me. :/

[XXforhubby]

I don't think the BFing is effecting things. My prolactin level is a 13, and I am only nursing 3-4 times a day. We'll see though. Maybe I am one of those women that has to wean to get pregnant. Who knows!

I'll keep you ladies posted. I don't feel pregnant though.


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[QueenB3blue]

O xx, I am anxiously waiting for you to test!

Maiden 10 dpo is still early!!

Today I am impatiently waiting my dr to call with my hcg levels. I feel they just have to be at 0 or close enough. 2 weeks ago I was at 38. Last week I was at 17.
Last night I noticed some ewcm. Today I have it also but my opk's are not starting to fade in. I just can't shake the feeling my opk's won't work and I will miss ovulation! I am on cd11 now. Well, I am calling it cd11 even though I only had a 3 day break of no bleeding from mmc.

There is a new moon on the 22, which will be cd15 for me. I thought it would be interesting to ovulate then just because I usually o around a full moon:)

Good luck ladies!

[XXforhubby]

I am keeping everything crossed for you Queen3blue! I hope you catch your Golden Egg with a pink sperm!! 😊❤️❤️


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[sageviolet]

xx - Sorry you're having a rough time. Everyone is different -- bfing with af caused no changes for me, no gushes, nothing different. Big difference post-baby is not nearly as much cm. I only get ewcm 2 days before af, not around o. We've been having less and less sessions and they got really short. Last cycle we were down to once a day. I know I'm not producing anything anymore. She finally said no to that earlier this week and went her first 24 hours with none, almost 28 months old. I didn't want to force her to wean, so I'm very happy it went so peacefully.

mybyc - Physically and mentally. If you get rid of excess stuff it helps make your goals clearer. Just go through your closets, drawers, cupboards, etc. and see what you don't need anymore. Clean everything like you expect someone is coming. It gives you a fresh start and sense of expectation, ready for something good to come into your life.

I think I ovulated? This is the first time my Clearblue digital never gave me a smiley! I thought it was close the past two days, so I tried to double check with dipsticks later in the day, but they were so hard to read. And today my temp went up and my cm dried, so it must've happened last night.

[QueenB3blue]

Thank you xx! :-D

Sageviolet, how frustrating to not know if/when you ovulate!! I am having those feeling right now:(

Dr just called to say my hcg is down to 8.8. I thought for sure it would be closer to zero!! I think anything 5 and under is considered not pregnant??
I do have good feeling I will o this weekend though.....fx

[purplepoet20]

2dpo

I am still BFing a 2yo and this morning I woke up leaking, which I haven't done in a year. I didn't feel full they were just leaking. It was funny.

I also had hot flashes early this morning and thought I was getting a fever since my kids have been sick for a week now.

[maidentomother]

XX, I feel weird. Not pregnant, but definitely not quite as usual. Could be symptom spotting or a cyst, I think. But I will say that 5/6 pregnancies I didn't feel pregnant at all until at least 5, usually 6w.

Queen, sounds like your hcg is dropping very steadily. I'm sure that's good, if frustrating. Praying for a new moon O for you this month!

Sage, well done BFing your daughter for so long. It does look like you just Oed, fx for you. I have only gotten a smiley on a CB digi once, last cycle. I saved the test stick, and this month when my cheap OPK strips were at their very darkest I tested with a CB digi and got a blank circle, despite the lines looking just like last month's! I don't really trust those digis. And I definitely 100% Oed, I'd bet my life on it based on how I feel and my chart.

Ladies, I had another migraine tonight. My 3rd this month! They are hormonal for me and caused by high estrogen levels. I had EWCM again today, too. My cramping finally disappeared completely, thank god. This is by far the strangest cycle I've ever had in the past 3 years. I've had pretty bad insomnia the past 2 nights and tonight, too. I am prone to insomnia but I always get it right before AF, almost always just the one nighy before. However, I also had insomnia very early on with my last (twin + ginormous cyst) pregnancy. Trying not to get my hopes up though.

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[XXforhubby]

Well I am no longer spotting. It stopped for good at 4:00 today so only 1.5 days of spotting that was never heavy like my pre-AF spotting. No more cramping. Nipple sensitivity and decrease in milk supply is still here. DS2 didn't want the second boob and acted like the milk had a funny taste! Strange! I may test in the morning with an IC and FMU. I'll be 12dpo...We'll see....


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[Junie]

Oooh XX I am so excited for you!!!

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[XXforhubby]

I have no idea what is going on! Negative IC this morning with FMU. Red/brown CM showed back up this morning but only when I check- not on my liner or when I wipe!

Also, itmn I woke up cramping! I went pee and it went away in a few minutes just like when I was pregnant with both DS's. WTH? I called the RE, because I am supposed to get day 3 bloodwork done. I have no idea what to call day 3! She said if this continues to call on Monday, and they will do something different.

I guess I will keep testing every morning. Just like AF to be a b!$&h and mess with me! Watch, she'll show up sometime in the next few days! Ugh! I just want closure on this cycle! This in limbo sucks!


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[XXforhubby]

Looking at when I believe I Oed, AF should come on Sunday with me being 14dpo. So it could still be too early for me to test, even tough my online period tracker has AF arriving yesterday. Ugh!


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[XXforhubby]

Now it is very light brown mixed with EWCM. Seriously! WTH!

It seems to be worse itmn after emptying my full bladder, then it stops slowing over the morning.

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[maidentomother]

XX, you had multiple days in a row of positive OPKs, right? So is it possible you Oed 1-2 days later than you think? How many days of positives did you get and what day did you consider O day? I wish you were temping so I could see your chart, I'm much better with visuals than word problems.

I'm sorry you're dealing with such on and off confusion. Do you typically get EWCM before AF?

As for me, 11DPO now (though I think I Oed early in the am of the following day so I consider myself technically 10DPO in my mind, despite my chart). BFN again. I've been using 2 brands of cheaps strips. One brand claims 10miu sensitivity, the other 20 or 30miu. In terms of the less sensitive strips, I have 2 different lot numbers. Lot #1 has been giving me faint, thin colorless shadows since I started testing on 7DPO, though they don't show up in the time period. I did dip one into some pre-O urine as a control and no shadow.

This morning I saw the line while the dye was still running across, and it looked pink, too. Definitely darker than any of the previous shadowy lines, despite today's urine being not very concentrated especially compared to my FMU the prior days. Dry the line is still there and still darker than anything I've seen so far, but I'm not sre there's any colour to it. Lot #2 strips and the 10miu strips have all been stark white. On 9DPO I tested with my last 20miu BabyHopes strip, also stark white.

So I really don't know what to think! I also have full on clear EWCM today again. It is so tempting to use one of my precious FRERs but I will wait until Monday evening or Tuesday morning. I've never had an LP longer than 14 days and since I ran out of Vitex over a week ago I'll be surprised if I make it that far.

Here's my chart - I've been feeling very hot, almost feverish since waking up yesterday, but I'm definitely not sick: 4a5f89 Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/Circles/homepage.php?u=Pink+Power)

[XXforhubby]

I have been feeling the same way Maiden! I only had 2 days of positive opks, which is normal for me. I Oed three days later than I usually do though. I believe I Oed on the 6th the day after my last positive opk when I started temping. I woke up the morning of the 7th with a temp of 99.2! I am not sick, but they have been really high since then. Today it was 99.6!! I normally have dry CM right when my pre-AF spotting starts. Since I have Oed, my CM has been EWCM-creamy. Even with the red/brown CM, it has been either creamy or EW in texture, which it not at all like my pre-AF spotting.

I will keep testing with my cheapies. If I get a positive or a faint positive with those, I'll test with my others. I just hope this won't be another chemical. That is my fear. Although last cycle I got my BFP before spotting started, and it was different from what I am experiencing this time. Last month it was pure blood not red/brown tinged creamy/EW CM.

What will be will be. I am surprisingly handling this well. I just want closure, but I am trying to remain indifferent until I know one way or another. Something is going to happen, because my milk supply has dipped. Either I am pregnant, but it is too early to show on a test, or I am going to get AF soon. I just am sick of waiting!


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[sageviolet]

FX for you, maiden and xx!

Another high temp today, so I'm sure I o'ed. I'm officially in the 2ww now! At least I have Christmas to help keep me distracted this time.

[maidentomother]

Looking good, sage!

XX, apparently my brain isn't working right...maybe all the migraines broke something. Thanks for clarifying your O. How truly strange that you're running so hot, too. Like you, I'm not willing to test with a more expensive, proper test until I see a real line on a cheapie or am absolutely without a doubt at least a couple days late. I also am feeling extremely frustrated and just wish either I'd get a BFP or AF. This perplexing limbo with all its mixed signals is making me too hopeful. The longer it goes on the greater the chance of heartbreak.

In other news, Muse is touring Europe this summer and their 2nd concert will be at a place 30 minutes from me! I have been particularly obsessed with them the past 6 months and I can't wait to see them live. Although, I'm not sure if I should try to make their 1st concert as well/instead, it's in Munich which is several hours away but maybe opening night is more special? Plus the 1st concert is in a stadium while the 2nd is on camping grounds, and my back would do a lot better with seating. Then again, long car drives are really bad for my back, too. I've lnly been to a handful of big concerts in my entire life bc I hate crowds, so not sure what to do. Both concerts are part of 3 days long weekend rock festivals with huge line ups including Metallica, KISS, Incubus, Judas Priest and others.

[XXforhubby]

We have so much in common Maiden! I love Muse and am a fan of Metallica, Incubus (the lead singer is HOT), and Judas Priest! I would totally go on opening night!


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[purplepoet20]

Seems like a lot of us are going for a girl... a few boys! I would responsed to everyone but I barely have time to read much on here. I hope everyone gets lucky for the Holidays.


I am 3dpo and feel bloated today to the point that I can not eat much. Also had heartburn last night. I really hope to test around xmas and get an early bfp but I may wait until the day after.

[XXforhubby]

I am not sure what my body is doing. One moment I feel like i am going to get my period, and another moment I don't.

One thing though, I am really hoping you all get your BFPs. I just can't bear to hear about it. Even my step-brother's girlfriend is pregnant with their second child, unexpectedly, of course! I am on cycle 5 now, and it is getting to me. I am starting to wonder if it is even meant to be. I will check in, from time to time, but I need to pull back.

Thanks 💞


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[Junie]

Big hugs XX:hugs:

[maidentomother]

XX, I get it. Cycle 5 for me too. BFN again today at 12DPO and cramping again.

You would go to opening night instead or in addition? I truly don't quite get how they're organizing it as both rock festivals are the same days, same lineups, same production companies. And the locations are 6 hours apart. I don't envy thr bands. Not at all surprised we like the same music. :)

[XXforhubby]

Thanks ladies for your understanding! I would go to Muse's opening night!


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[maidentomother]

Alrighty, I'll try to do both then! Thanks for the advice. :)

[QueenB3blue]

I think I am in the 2ww!! As long as my opk's don't stay positive for days:).
Today is the winter solstice and a new moon, if today is my o day that would be pretty cool!!

Really hoping maiden and xx get a bfp!! I think you both still have a good shoot;)
And sageviolet and purplepoet get their New Years bfp:). And anyone else that I missed.
Best wishes ladies!!

[eleena2014]

Think I am too!! 2nd cycle after miscarriage. We had an attempt Thursday as I thought I'd missed ovulation and Got a +opk yesterday which turned negative today,and we had another attempt today. Dh released on his own Friday too so hope this doesn't sway blue 😕

[XXforhubby]

Thank you QueenB3blue, but I am moving on to cycle 6. I am ok. I feel until my hormones get balanced out from a supplement I was taking (not for swaying purposes), I won't get a BFP. It caused my FSH to be 44.5!!!

I will be Oing around our 11th wedding anniversary on the 3rd.

GL to you Queen and Eleena- I hope you two catch the Golden egg with a pink sperm- you deserve it after all you have been through!


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[maidentomother]

Queen, Oing on new moon + solstice is totally awesome. Fx it's a lucky pink month for both you & eleena.

I am trying to get concentrated urine. 15 hours without fluids and still no luck. BFN still on my cheapies with dilute urine. Since last night I've been having shooting pains in my left breast (the one that wasn't operated on). Never had THAT symptom before.

At least I'm 13DPO with no AF. I did have minor temp drops yesterday and today, but I'm still way above coverline at 98.8. Cramping on and off still but no spotting. Time is passing soooo slowly.

XX, best wishes for next cycle. I may be joining you soon.

[Junie]

Big hugs XX take good care of yourself this Christmas, I'll be thinking of you :hugs:

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[maidentomother]

Well, I finally got some really dark urine this afternoon at 13DPO, and I tested with my supposedly 10miu cheapies and this one German drugstore early HPT I had, that claim 15-25miu sensitivity on the box and to give results from 3 days before Af is due. Alas, everything stark white BFN. :(

I had more EWCM again today, including a very stretchy clear string. I still can't get over how weird it is to have EWCM in my LP. The last 5 days I've had bad insomnia (not uncommon but this has been much worse than any I've had in a long time), and in addition the past 3 nights I've slept very poorly, waking up a lot, restless, and getting up after less than 6 hours sleep the 2 nights before last, unable to sleep more. That is extremely unusual for me as normally I sleep very heavily and long once I fall asleep, in fact I often don't wake up to alarms. 9-12 hours is how much I typically sleep. So I am convinced that I have at least 1 cyst if I'm not pregnant. I may even try to see a dr tomorrow if any are still open, to get an ultrasound and hcg/estrogen/progesterone blood work. I fear a cyst delaying O and messing up my cycles and I don't want my O timing off the next few months. Fx drs are open tomorrow and I can get a walk in appointment.

[XXforhubby]

Thank you so much Junie! Your kind words mean more than you could know 😘. Over the past 3 days I allowed myself cheats and took off exercise (normally I am super strict). It is now time to get my head together and buckle back down!

I hope you get your girl Junie- I am keeping an eye out!!

I'll see some of you in January, and GL to those still waiting to test.

Hopefully there is still some pink baby dust left out there for me...I am beginning to think I am all out of any kind of baby dust...😞


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[essnce629]

Good luck QueenB and Eleena! Sending you both lots of positive vibes!

[maidentomother]

XX, I'm feeling out of baby dust, too. 3rd temp drop in a row today. I'm still above coverline but not even going to test today. What was the supplement that was making your FSH so crazy high, btw?

[keepthefaith]

Just wanted to say happy Christmas to everyone and hope we are all celebrating the births of our baby girls (or boys if your swaying other way) in 2015! My attempt is New Years Eve! Xx

[bluebonnet22]

Just a note to say I'm following this thread daily and I'm rooting for you guys! I'm so sorry for how long it is taking and definitely enjoy some good cheats during the 2WW/AF especially around Christmas. Swaying is so incredibly difficult - you guys are doing great.

[XXforhubby]

Maiden- I was taking inositol to regulate my neurotransmitters in my brain in response to hormone fluctuations in my menstrual cycle. In 2008, I had a flurry of seizures, and they couldn't find a cause. However, I had stopped BC two weeks prior, and the neurologist hypothesized the seizures may have been hormone related. I only took 500mg, but increased my dose to 2000mg twice a day when we started to ttc to boost egg quality and lower insulin levels.

Looks like I should have left well enough alone! We'll see what my FSH is now.


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[CherryBlossom]

TWW second cycle after a mc. If this doesn't work we won't be trying for 6 months which im completely fine with =)


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[maidentomother]

Cherry blossom, best of luck!

AF found me so on to TTC cycle #6. I always did prefer even numbers!

[sageviolet]

Sorry af is showing up so many places. Hugs!

I'm 5dpo. The same as every cycle, sore chest. It all means nothing now after so many bfn cycles. I'm going to test on Sat. at 10dpo. I'm going to be away traveling for a couple of days until then, so Happy Holidays!

[QueenB3blue]

So sorry for af showing up xx and maiden:(

My opk's did start to fade back out. So I guess I ovulated Sunday sometime:) I am still getting some ewcm. Not sure if that is good or bad.

Went to a family Christmas party Sunday. My cousin announced she was expecting, due in June. I feel bad because I really wasn't that excited for her. My baby was due end of May. I am trying my best just to concentrate on positive thoughts and conceiving again. I my test New Year's Eve, if I haven't started spotting.

Thinking of everyone!! Best wishes for bfp's

[pkdream]

I am so so happy this morning. DH had a heart operation yesterday which was obviously very stressful, but he is recovering well. This morning I got my first BFP on FRER (still nothing on cheapies). I have no real symptoms and am 8 or 9 dpo. Temp rise this morning was the only clue. I was so sure this would be a terrible Christmas for us but now I feel so blessed. Very good luck to everyone still waiting and huge hugs to those dealing with tough situations.

[Wishing-well]

I think I have red everything in this thread three times, it does help to know that there others sitting out there biting their nails and are super nervous, the 2ww are nerve wrecking. I am only on day 6 dpo and just counting the days, I was hoping that as it is christmas it would help me get my mind on other things, but everytime I feel a slight cramp, or get super emotional my thoughts go back to what really is important right now, and that is getting the BFP this is my third child that we are trying for, but my two boys are 14 and 18 so it is nearly like waiting for child number one. And the thing that is so so different now is all the waiting, with my two boys I didn`t sway and we didn`t plan at all, I was just blessed with them, ofcourse my husband and I did some BD, but there was no waiting or being a nervous wreck about if I was or was not pregnant.

Wishing everyone a merry christmas and fingers crossed for you all in the same boat as me. Lets hope that we get are BFP
and start the new year with morning sickness and soar breasts LOL

[QueenB3blue]

Merry Christmas:)

[MyByC]

Merry Christmas everyone! ❄️

[XXforhubby]

Merry Christmas 🎄


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[keepthefaith]

Merry Christmas xx

[eleena2014]

Merry Xmas everyone xxx. 🎅🎄🎁

[sageviolet]

Hi, ladies, hope you are all doing well!

I just got back from my travels and am really looking forward to checking my temp and poas tomorrow morning! I have been so hungry lately. If you remember, I'm swaying blue and struggle with snacking because it's just not me and I'm not hungry between meals. Well, no problems snacking yesterday afternoon! It was like an empty feeling inside. In the middle of the afternoon (and I'd had a good breakfast and lunch), I was so hungry I had a scrambled egg and some raisins. An hour later I was still starving, so I ate some cheese and nuts. And I was still hungry! But then it was almost time for supper, so I waited. It's very unusual. I'm starving again this afternoon. Also, I've been having more gas than usual this cycle. Good signs for ttc, right? lol FX for tomorrow morning!

[MyByC]

Sage, that shounds super 😁

[sageviolet]

10 dpo this morning and a bfn. My temp isn't as high as I would like, so I'm losing hope.

[MyByC]

😔 I am sorry Sage. But dont loose hope. You had your attempt 1 days before O?

[QueenB3blue]

10dpo is still early Sageviolet:) you still have a chance of your bfp this cycle.

MyByC, are you waiting to o? I thought I remember either you were ovulating or testing around New Years??

I am 6dpo. Waiting to test at 10dpo on New Year's Eve.

[MyByC]

Queen, I missed this cycle 😔
I planned in DTD on Wednesday night(according to my last pill of Clomid) and I had my O earlier...
Didnt test OPK. Planned in being relaxed this cycle...I had big pains before and when I tested it was already negative, the next day also negative...so I missed it.
Good luck to you! Hope you get your BFP and start the year with a baby inside ❤️❤️❤️
Any symptoms?

[QueenB3blue]

I am so sorry you missed your o MyByC! I hear clomid can really make opk's crazy:( maybe bd every 4 days next cycle!

Thank you so much for the Well Wishes:) I seem to have maybe a couple symptoms, sore boobs since o, my gums have been bleeding when I brush my teeth. I am trying to stay calm and not symptom spot to much:-/

[XXforhubby]

Oh QueenB3blue, it sounds like you may get a BFP!! Keeping my FX for you and for SageViolet!!!

As for me, we are relaxing on the BDing. We are BDing whenever DH wants to, because I basically have no chance of becoming pregnant until my FSH goes down. I am doing everything else though. I just need to feel like I am connecting with DH instead of stressing out about attempts. Ironically, we are ending up BDing every 3 days, which is still pretty girl friendly.


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[MyByC]

Yeey Queen. Sounds super good!
I didnt knew bleeding gums it's a sign of upcomming BFP. Do you know why this happends?
Hugs ❤️

[XXforhubby]

MyByC, it is the change in hormones. I get this too when I get a BFP.


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[MyByC]

Good to know for future :-)
How are you XX? Feeling better?

[sageviolet]

Sorry your timing didn't work, mybyc.

Yes, I keep telling myself 10dpo is early, but my cycles only go to 12dpo and I would expect my temp to be going up more. My other two pregnancies I didn't test until af was late and that was with a longer lp so it was 16pdo or more, so I have no idea how early my body might like to show it on a test.

I'm not as hungry anymore, but my chest is still very sore and I'm having belly twinges. But that's been every cycle lately. I'm feeling depressed.

[MyByC]

Sage, dont ruin your holidays because of this. Be patient and hope. The hope dies last!
Good luck and update us!

[XXforhubby]

MyByC- I am at peace with things. Even though I would have rather been pregnant by now, but I think my chances of a girl are high since it is taking awhile.

My FSH was 1.5 points higher than last time, so it is going in the wrong direction. The RE said that they can still help me, if I need it.

I decided that for this cycle we are going to BD when DH wants to, which is every 3 days. I just needed somewhat of a break. I am still doing the other girl sway factors, just in case.

I have an appointment with my RE's partner who specializes in high FSH cases. We'll see.

My hope is for all of us ladies that have been ttcing a while, that we get our BFPs soon! You know who you are! Cycle 6 for me...😘


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[Sunbuny]

Just reading through some of the latest posts. Sorry to hear that you missed this cycle MyByC.

XX wishing you all the best. hopefully everything balances out soon.

[Wishing-well]

Sorry to hear that you missed you cycle MyByC.

I had a BFN on my pregnancy test this morning, I am 8 DPO and was really hoping that the test might have been on my side, but no sign of a line number two, I know it is still early, I am trying to tell myself that, but can`t help feeling this is a sign that this is not my month.

What I think is the most worrying is that I have been so hard for three months with the LE diet, I did cardio for an hour a day, but christmas is notime for dieting, I just didn`t stand a chance, so what really gets me down is that all my work has been for nothing, and do I have to start all over again, if so this is going to be taking along time. It all fell apart from monday before christmas, and then christmas eve, christmas day eating meat, I think this really sucks, and if my AF knocks on my door in a weeks time, I will be dropping an hour cardio, to much stress about it.

How do you ladies get through all the waiting? I find it so hard, feels like one day is like a whole year:worry:

[MyByC]

Wishing, dont worry! 8dpo is tooooo early! For some reasons, implantation can happend between 6-12 day so until AF comes, you are in graphic!
Keep the attitude up! 😘

[sageviolet]

Hugs, wishing-well, I know what you mean about the waiting! But I tell myself even if I had a bpf, I'd still be in the wait to see if it turns into a healthy baby. There's no getting around it, babies take time to grow.

I had another bfn this morning at 11dpo. I'm having strong symptoms which gives me hope. I feel pregnant. Did anyone here watch the "Call the Midwife" holiday special? I keep thinking about the line, "Certainty is fleeting, that's why we must have faith."

[Wishing-well]

I just love you girls, thank you for just being there:hug2: and it is so so true sageviolet, the waiting never ends.

[eleena2014]

I'll be testing from new years day onwards.currently 7dpo.trying not to symptom spot but last time before I Got a bfp I had sore boobs,which is what I'm getting this time. Also getting a few cramps and backaches.

[XXforhubby]

I wish you ladies well! Wishing-well don't fret! It is still too early to get a BFP. I would wait, if you can, to test again in 4-5 days. That is what I had to do with DS2.

Eleena- I am keeping everything crossed you get a sticky bean that will hopefully be pink!

GL to the rest waiting to test. I hope the New Year brings more BFPs.


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[QueenB3blue]

I agree 8dpo is waaaay early:) don't lose hope wishing-well!

Sageviolet so happy you are having promising symptoms:)

MyByC, just as xx said the hormones make your gums super sensitive and they can swell a little making them bleed easily while brushing your teeth.

Good luck with your RE appointments XX!

[QueenB3blue]

Ok. Dumb question ladies. When using opk's, do you count the day after your +opk as 1dpo or is that o day?
I don't temp. I have been thinking the day after a +opk is the day you ovulate, but I guess you ~could~ o the same day?

Just curious how everyone else counts it:) doesn't really matter, I am just looking for a reason to test sooner now......

[XXforhubby]

It depends on when you typically O. On average, people O 12-48 hours after the first positive opk. I usually O 36 hours after the second positive opk if my surge is two days long. If my surge is only one day long, I O 24 hours after the first positive opk. I have temped for years and this is my average. Some cycles are just wacky though!

GL! I am keeping everything crossed for you that this cycle will lead to a healthy, sticky bean!!


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[MyByC]

O day is 0 day, then the counting starts with 1,2,3...BFP 😄😄

[sageviolet]

lol, right now I'm waiting for my 2 year old to stop peeing on the floor! She finally stopped throwing food, that was my big pet peeve. I guess there's always something, even after she grow ups and leaves I'll be waiting for a wedding and grandbabies.

It's like torture today because of not knowing. I feel so weird in my tummy, like mild pressure and cramps. If I'm not preg, I wonder if there's something wrong with me.

[MyByC]

Nothing is wrong! You arw thinking too much!

:))) your DD amuse me.
I'm currently in my boy's bed (for 1 hour already) waiting for him to fall asleep.

[keepthefaith]

Hey everyone, well I'm a few days away from 2nd month ttc, determined this month I'm not testing till at is late as last month I was obsessed with every possible symptom plus doing tests and using a microscope looking for lines. Have got dh to hide the tests so can't! I felt so foolish when af came after convincing myself was pg. Hoping my laid back attitude is possible and brings success! 😁

[XXforhubby]

Keepthefaith- I definitely test the day AF is due. I try not to symptom spot, because no matter what people say the symptoms in the 2ww are hormonal only.

I hope this is everyone's month. Sigh, if only I could be so lucky 😞. I am not so hopeful.


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[Wishing-well]

Okei, had a bad day yesterday, thanks for all the surport it was truly needed, not only did i get the BFN yesterday, but the I also got the flu, so really it didn`t help, but today is a new day, still got the cough and runny nose, but more positiv today.
Will be taking another test in six days, AF is due on the 2nd of january so lets just hope AF wont be visiting here for sometime.

Good Luck Eleena, and sageviolett theres nothing wrong with you, if so I to have got the same illness;) I have weird tingeling in my tummy, my tummy itches and so do my boobies, and I feel like a dragon, can be majour happy and then get mad over nothing, and then just some silly little thing on the tv and I break down in tears, I told my husband he should lock me away for the next few weeks;) I get really dizzy when standing up, I keep telling myself that the itchyness could be the cold weather, but every symptom can`t just be the cold weather ( I hope) LOL

It is kinda all we have got right now, "the symptoms" before we get our answer, and can move on to the next level ( of waiting) or have to go back to start again, but it kinda helps me keep up the faith having the symptoms.

[keepthefaith]

Keepthefaith- I definitely test the day AF is due. I try not to symptom spot, because no matter what people say the symptoms in the 2ww are hormonal only.

I hope this is everyone's month. Sigh, if only I could be so lucky . I am not so hopeful.




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Im keeping fingers crossed xx for all of us that 2015 is our year xx

[sageviolet]

Yeah, these hormones are crazy this time. I've had heartburn the past 3 evenings, which is very rare for me -- the last time was 3rd trimester with dd! Yet I still got a bfn this morning. Af is due tomorrow or Wed.

[Wishing-well]

Fingers and toes crossed for you sageviolet, that AF goes knocking on someone elses door, hopefully not mine lol

[QueenB3blue]

Ok well then I am probably 8 dpo:) yesterday I was having af like cramping:( having some this morning also. It is on and off, but is making me even less hopeful for a bpf. If I make it through today and tomorrow with out spotting I will regain a little of hope.

Yes, all the symptoms in the 2ww are pretty much the same thing as pre af bologna!! Makes perfect since that af would mess with your mind!

[Wishing-well]

Don`t loose hope Queen, spotting and cramping could be implantation bleeding, so keep up the faith;)

[Wishing-well]

Just wanted to share this prayer with all off you ladies, we all need this prayer, a new year miracle would be a blessing ;)

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[QueenB3blue]

Thank you Wishing-well:) for your encouraging words, all you ladies are amazing. It is so nice to have others going through the same thing to connect with.

I haven't had any spotting. Just mild like af cramps. I keep trying to tell myself it could be from implantation:-/ last time I got a bfp 9dpo in the evening, I didn't try that morning for whatever reason. Tomorrow I will be 9dpo but I will wait until 10. I think!

[keepthefaith]

Well I'm cd16 expecting positive opk cd19 but just got it today!? Glad tested, not quite as prepared as would have liked but going to have our attempt tonight! Hoping done enough and fact few days earlier and not abstained/taken antihistamine as long as should doesn't affect things negatively ��. In my sway says expect to possibly ov early and to have an attempt early so wish me luck and I'll be joining jan 2ww eek. xx ��

[keepthefaith]

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Apologies I'm on treadmill whilst posting pic lol, do you agree positive opk?? X

[Wishing-well]

Good luck keepthefaith;)

[QueenB3blue]

Very positive!! Good Luck:)

[Sunbuny]

Good luck KTF!

[keepthefaith]

Thanks ladies well I'm officially in the 2ww or just about depending when I ov. Still getting positive this morning so will keep wee eye on it. Determined not going to symptom spot and won't be testing for two weeks and hoping we get s new year surprise!

Hope everyone doing ok xx

[eleena2014]

9dpo and I caved in and tested. Def a bfn.not even the slightest line :( I know it's Prob to early but I hate waiting.lol,and last time I Got a v faint line positive on 10dpo.

[Wishing-well]

Eleena we are in the same boat, I am dpo 10 today, and I caved and took a test with a BFN on dpo 8, it really sucks as you really want to know if you are pregnant or not, but keep up the faith and hang in there, only afew more days and you can test again and then lets cross are fingers that both of us get our BFP.

[QueenB3blue]

I was thinking of testing this morning also. It is 7am here. I haven't gone to the bathroom since I woke. DH is still sleeping and I didn't want to go back through our room to wake him:) but I am second guessing whether I should test now:-/
I have plenty of test, so I figured why not. I probably will. But I am not sure how much longer I can hold my pee!!!

Sorry about your bfn Eleena. And Wishing-well. It is still early though, which is why I am second guessing testing......

[eleena2014]

I found something online where a survey says the chances of a faint positive goes up quite a bit on day 10 compared to day 9.go on queenb3blue. Let us know.it Probs is too early but let us know x

[eleena2014]

Not saying it's a sign as I'm trying not to symptom spot but I have been having v strange vivid dreams.which is what I had last time I was pg.do you think it will be Ok to have a glass of wine new years Eve if I don't know if I'm pg or not? I only have one test left and was going to save it for new years day.

[sageviolet]

Thanks for the encouragement, wishing-well, and I hope you're all recovered from the flu!

Af showed up this morning, so I'm out. On to cycle #6. GL to those still in the 2WW and hope we're celebrating the next New Year's Eve with babies in our laps!

[QueenB3blue]

Sorry af found you sageviolet:(

Bfn for me. I should have known better. 9 dpo, no spotting yet, which is the only thing giving me hope.

[Mars]

Keepthefaith I'm here with you! AF is due around the 15th Jan so we had an attempt last night and maybe one more tomorrow.

[eleena2014]

Ouch.suddenly Got pains,like ovulation pains.what could that be? On the left side

[keepthefaith]

Mars - fab, fingers crossed for us both!

Good luck ladies waiting on bfps!!

[XXforhubby]

Eleena- sounds like ovulation pains or the development of the corpus luteum. GL!

I am holding out hope that you ladies will get a BFP!!

I am still waiting for a positive opk. We are having attempts though, and I am being relaxed about those. My FSH is skyhigh, and I pretty much won't be able to get pregnant without some sort of intervention. I am letting DH call the shots this cycle. I am still doing the other girl stuff. I just feel we have to try something else, since it is harder for me to get pregnant for some strange reason.

Maybe I am just one of those women that can't get pregnant while nursing. My RE said some women who get their periods while nursing have high FSH to prevent pregnancy. While some women who do not get their periods regularly have suppressed ovulation. We'll see. I only nurse him 2-4 times a day though.


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[eleena2014]

Shouldn't be ovulation pains should it? As I'm 9dpo

[mommymachine]

Shouldn't be ovulation pains should it? As I'm 9dpo

Just jumping in here. I get pains around implantation. Different from ovulation. Feels more like a pulling sensation if I remember correctly. It is what prompted me to take a test with one of the pregnancies.

[eleena2014]

I hope its that mommymachine. I am so anxious about it ending up being another miscarriage or an eptopic or something.

[XXforhubby]

My RE told me if the cramping is on the side, it is the corpus luteum building up to churn out a good amount of progesterone. I had this confirmed before I had my chemical two cycles ago.


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[QueenB3blue]

Try not to worry Eleena. It could be nothing! I know it is easier said then done:)

Don't think I am taking light of your cramping but, it could just be gas. I know you are not ovulating but when I ovulate I get really bad gas pains sometimes. (Sorry tmi) crazy hormones;)

[eleena2014]

So this corpus luteum, does this mean it's a surge of pregnancy hormones or does it raise chance of a chemical?

[eleena2014]

Thanks queenb3blue. It Probs won't be nothing .the pains gone now.x

[Wishing-well]

Sageviolet sorry to hear that AF came knocking, crossing my fingers for you on your next attemped, 2015 is all of our year:hug2: The flu really sucks, fever, runny nose and coughing like mad, I feel really shitty, I am never sick and I just can`t even remember the last time I had the flu, it`s years ago, it has to be all that rabbit food (pink sway) I have been eating for the past three months, so my immune system has just given up on me :shrug: But atleast I sleep alot so the days kinda go more quickly, until I can take another preg test.

[QueenB3blue]

Or maybe your pg Wishing-well;). Your body could be working extra hard developing your little bean making it easier to pick up a nasty bug!
Fx for that!

[Wishing-well]

As soon as I start hoping and dreaming of the BFP, I have to get out the big box of tissues :tissue:, so I`ll go with the rabbit food for now:owl: But thanks QueenB :LotsofLove::LotsofLove:

[sageviolet]

Xx, that's really interesting because I had clear pain on my side the other night and also had similar pain with dd. Yet my temp dropped today and af is here. Could I have been close to pregnant but something went wrong? Today I made an appt. with a specialist but the soonest I could get in is the first week of February. That's longer than the 2ww!

[XXforhubby]

I am signing off for now...it is not looking like DH and I can have anymore children on our own. DH and I aren't interested in using injections or donor eggs. I have an appointment with a top RE, but I am not sure of any other options available to us.



GL to the rest of you ladies, and I may be back if God can grant me one more tiny miracle....😪


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[Junie]

XX I'm very sorry to read this but absolutely believe you will have another baby. Would you consider stopping BFing? I think for some women it can really mess with their hormones. I hope the RE can give you lots of hope and I will be sending you lots of good thoughts and looking forward to the day you post your BFP! Big hugs!!!

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[keepthefaith]

Keepthefaith I'm here with you! AF is due around the 15th Jan so we had an attempt last night and maybe one more tomorrow.

Mars are you not sticking with one attempt?

[Wishing-well]

I am signing off for now...it is not looking like DH and I can have anymore children on our own. DH and I aren't interested in using injections or donor eggs. I have an appointment with a top RE, but I am not sure of any other options available to us.



GL to the rest of you ladies, and I may be back if God can grant me one more tiny miracle....��


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I am so sorry to hear this XX, it is really heartbreaking, I will be sending you, strength, hope and lots and lots of happy thoughtsover to both you and your husband. I have you in my prays, and I really hope the RE can help you, becauce you are going to have another baby, every baby is a miracle and you wait and see, it is going to happen when you least axpect it, all this swaying and the 2ww is enough to make anyone a nervous wreck, what you need is some space away from the baby carousel, from what you should and should not do, and then I am positiv that your little miracle will come true. Wishing you a happy new year and sendling lots and lots of babydust over to you from Norway :LotsofLove:

[QueenB3blue]

I am sorry XX:( sending lots of thoughts and prayers. I hope the new RE can give you reassurance that everything will work out. Maybe even a surprise bfp all on your own!

[QueenB3blue]

BFN for me again this morning. 10dpo, still early. I am not expecting my cycles to be the same since mmc but usually I am spotting by now. So I still have a little hope.

Hope everyone else is doing well:)

[sageviolet]

Hugs and prayers, xx! I can't tell you how many people I've seen take a break or give up and then receive a surprise miracle. Sometimes you have to hit the bottom to bounce back up. You do whatever you need to do to take care of yourself, but please know there's a lot of love here if you need it.

Words of advice to myself, too. I have been trying as long as xx and I have stopped breastfeeding, but I have no idea what's causing our problems. I called yesterday to make an appt. with a specialist to hopefully run some tests and get some answers, but the soonest appt. I could get is the first week of Feb. Ugh, it's longer than the 2ww! Hopefully something happens this cycle and we can cancel that appt. I'm not ready to give up yet.

[Ugee]

Really sorry to hear this xx! Been routing for you! Hope everything works out for you and see you on here again soon.

[eleena2014]

I havent tested this morning as dh hid my test as we agreed to wait till new years day.lol.

[eleena2014]

Still a bfn. 11 dpo. Could it still be too early to test?

[Wishing-well]

Eleena I have been reading other forums about testing, and yes it is still to early , I see several ladies that test on dpo 9, 10 and 11 with negativs and then they test again on dpo 13 with a positiv, so hang in there, just give it acouple of more days. I am on dpo 12 today, I am not testing before tomorrow ,but I must admitt I am super scared now taking a test, because it should give me answer and it might not be the one I am hoping for, so just sitting her as a nervous wreck and praying and hoping AF doesn`t arrive, it is due today or tomorrow so crossing arms and legs that AF doesn`t arrive, so I can test tomorrow and hope that the test gives me a BFP;) Ahhhh all this waiting, I have no more nails to bite, it is truely murder, I feel like a little girl waiting for the biggest and most precious gift, that I might or might not get, I am so glad I have you ladies here otherwise I had truly gone insane.

What really gets to me, is this tingeling sensation down there :think: that I have had all through the 2ww, it is kinda of strange thing, any of you have the same symptom or is it me that is strange:worry:

[Wishing-well]

Sorry forgot to say happy new year to all of you lovely ladies, so HAPPY NEW YEAR and I know it is gonna be a good one for all of us:cheerteam:

[Mars]

Mars are you not sticking with one attempt?

Well we have because we drank too much and went straight to sleep last night lol!

[eleena2014]

Wishing well,I hope so. Since I has the miscarriage I haven't felt as excited this time round to test. I'm going to test on 14dpo next. Good luck with your testing.x

[sageviolet]

Thank you to whomever got me referral credit for 30 days of VIP status on ff. That was a lovely New Year's surprise!

[QueenB3blue]

Found some brown spotting this morning. Pretty sure I am out this month. Feels just like af is coming.

On to January. October was the only due date I preferred not to have because we already have 9 birthdays in our family then. But I will take what I can get.

Good Luck everyone:)

[Wishing-well]

Oh no Queen, are you sure it is AF? Sending you lots and lots of good thoughts, hope it is just a false alarm that it is not AF.

[QueenB3blue]

Thank you Wishing-well:)
I usually spot for around 3 days before af arrives. I am 12dpo today. I will test on 14dpo if I haven't started af by then. I usually don't have this long of a LP but I know everything is wonky after a mc.

When will you be testing again??

[eleena2014]

Really wanted to test this morning but didn't have no tests.will be going to fetch some more soon. Will be 12 dpo today. Fingers crossed I see a line. Because I'm testing today and it won't be first morning wee,should I test with early response ones which are more sensitive or would a normal pt pick hcg levels up?

[Wishing-well]

Queen, fingers toes and everything else is crossed for you;) I will wait until tomorrow morning before I test, I am 14 dpo then;)

Eleena I am not sure what kinda tests you have but over here we don`t have very many choises in test, I will be buying a clearblue test for tomorrow morning, it is a digital one that says "pregnant" or "not pregnant"
I am still in the game, I have a short cycle so AF has been on day 25 for the last three months, and that was yesterday, so it is day 26 since my first day of my last period today and no sign off AF so looking good;) But still scared to hope to much, I guess tomorrow will be the day that I get my answer, well that is if AF stays away;)

[QueenB3blue]

Eleena, just hold your pee for 3/4 hours you should be good!

Wishing-well, sounds promising!! Good Luck:)

Had some none spotting cm today. I still think af could be coming though...

[Wishing-well]

AF is here, so I am out for now, gonna have to start from scratch with LE as I have really crashed with the diet through christmas, so it looks like, I am gonna have to wait until feb before ttc again, it is too little time for the diet to kick in again this month.
I am really dissapointed as yesterday is actually the first day I actually put my guard down and was so at ease, my body just felt so pregnant,, so I actually felt hopefull, just before I was gonna go to bed at two in the morning I wiped after peeing before bed, and then AF was a fact... bugger.

Fingers cross for everyone else, really hope you get your BFP Eleena, I will try to keep myself away form the forums alittle bit now, but thank you so much ladies for being there through the 2ww, they where much harder than I thought they would be, so not looking forward to doing it all again, majour dissapointed, but trying to keep my head up and just move on.

And to you ladies that have been ttc for several months, I send you an extra big hugand ekstra baby dust, because WOW to keep the faith up after one bfn after another, that is what really gives me the courage and faith to pick up the peiceses and move on. Se ya ladies

[eleena2014]

I'm out too.af arrived this morning,soaking my pyjama bottoms.Got a feeling this is going to be a heavy one. Been having cramps and back pain since Friday. I will be starting the diet again too, either for 6weeks or 8.haven't made my mind up yet.so will be ttc again Feb or March

[Wishing-well]

Sorry Eleena;( It sucks but ones just gotta look ahead and do the best out of it. We will get there;)