LE Diet For PCOS [Archive] - Gender Dreaming Forums

LacePrincess

January 11th, 2015, 09:57 AM

Stickied! :)

My staple breakfast lately: 1/2 cup cottage cheese, sliced strawberries and blueberries, a sprinkling of cinnamon. 1/2 piece of string cheese. Decaf (or sometimes caff) coffee with powdered non dairy creamer. Total: 180-200cals (depending on how much creamer) and 17 grams protein. There are some carbs from the fruit but I don't really bother to count that.

I always do my cardio in the morning, and I'm on Metformin so I can't do 100% protein with no carbs or I get hypoglycemic during the workout, which feels awful!

The other two meals I usually change it up, always carb/protein/veg and trying to incorporate full fat dairy for fertility. So today:

Lunch - udon noodle soup with a poached egg, shrimp, zucchini, broccoli, green onions and ginger for flavour. Seaweed salad. 100g fresh pineapple. For dessert - 1/2 glass milk with homemade cookies. Total - 600 cals.

Mid afternoon - Diet gingerale with Metamucil.

Dinner - schnitzel pork chops, white rice, asparagus with hollandaise. 500 cals.

Dessert - ice cream and homemade goodies, 200 cals.

momamia4

January 11th, 2015, 02:12 PM

Today:
11am: Smoothie: 1 full fat yogurt, 1 can coconut water, 1 banana, 2 c strawberries
2pm: Bruschetta (Roma tomato, squirt basil paste, 1T oil, drizzle Balsamic) on 2 slices whole grain bread toasted with 2oz melted cheese and diet cherry coke
6pm: 2c stir fry veggies, 4 chick nug sized pieces of chicken, stir fry sauce (1/4c oj, 1T cornstarch, 1t soy sauce) cooked in 1T canola oil and served with 1c brown rice and more diet cherry coke

I'm starving today and I did my 60 mins of cardio last night! I am very pleased with myself, lol! :)

atomic sagebrush

January 11th, 2015, 02:24 PM

thanks gals!

hopeful13

January 11th, 2015, 04:10 PM

Lace can I ask what dosage of metaformin you are taking.
Thank you

LacePrincess

January 11th, 2015, 04:19 PM

Lace can I ask what dosage of metaformin you are taking.
Thank you

Sure! I'm taking 1500mg of the regular Met (not XR). Mine are 500mg each and I take one pill before each meal.

hopeful13

January 11th, 2015, 04:33 PM

Thanks lace. Is that a special brand you were prescribed

LacePrincess

January 11th, 2015, 04:54 PM

Thanks lace. Is that a special brand you were prescribed

Np! I've filled my prescriptions from a Walgreens in the US, which I think were the Metformin branded ones. I've also had refills here at home that are the generics. I've used both interchangeably with no ill effects.

luvmyfam

January 11th, 2015, 08:13 PM

I linked the info thread for PCOS swayers above on the original post!

luvmyfam

January 11th, 2015, 09:06 PM

I won't be starting the LE until probably June. As of Jan first I am vegetarian!

I do have a question about metformin though. Long story short, I was on metformin from 6 months prior to conceiving DS 1 all the way through until I was in my second trimester with DS 2. When I was diagnosed with PCOS at age 18 I had high insulin and testosterone levels and I was very thin.

Fast forward to now and I'm at my heaviest adult non pregnant weight (already working on losing weight!). My endocrinologist (for hypothyroidism/PCOS) checks labs frequently and even though I've been off metformin for over 3 years now, my insulin and testosterone levels are normal-low! I haven't really had the PCOS symptoms since my last pregnancy!

I've tried getting back on metformin 4 times since then and every time I get up to 1000 mg (my old dose was 2000 mg) I start having extreme GI upset and vomiting.

So ...... I don't know what to do! My labs really show I don't need it... but I know it sways girl.YKWIM?!

I have heard that pregnancy can sometimes "re-set" your hormones and reverse PCOS. Ideas or recommendations for me?

LacePrincess

January 11th, 2015, 09:18 PM

luvmyfam, I don't have much experience with dealing with PCOS. I'm not, as far as I know, actually PCOS. I just have some PCO tendencies and my pretesting came back with indications of IR so the Met is more of a precautionary thing for me. I also have family history of diabetes and IR, but not PCOS to my knowledge. I've never been anovulatory, had any odd hair growth, or other high testosterone symptoms. Mostly it seems my issues is more IR related and Met is a diabetes drug.

I had to titrate up really slowly to get to 1500mg, something like 3 weeks, and was sick as a dog for a few weeks. But after suffering through that I tolerate my dose very well now.

Maybe if you can't get above 1000mg you should just take what you can tolerate? Especially as you aren't really needing the Met, even a lower dose would help sway pink for you. Though there's no point in forcing the issue and it's excellent news that your labs all look good!

luvmyfam

January 14th, 2015, 10:00 PM

So, just wondering how you guys are keeping track of how much fat and protein you are eating?

LacePrincess

January 14th, 2015, 10:26 PM

So, just wondering how you guys are keeping track of how much fat and protein you are eating?

I'm not really tracking them. I sometimes do an estimate of protein just to make sure I'm getting enough. I don't eat much meat these days, most of my protein are eggs and dairy and it's easy enough to get the numbers off the packaging.

If I want to track meat I weigh my food and use a site like caloriecount.com to look up the exact nutrition.

I never bother to track fat, it's so high cal that just tracking cals is enough to keep the fats reasonable. I think if you really want to track everything a site like myfitnesspal is probably your best bet.

momamia4

January 15th, 2015, 09:20 PM

I made a couple meal plans where I already figured everything out. That way I don't have to think about it (aka obsess over it, lol!) Here it is: 23198

luvmyfam

January 16th, 2015, 11:48 AM

I know, I'm trying not to get overly obsessive about stuff. Is just so hard! Are you two taking vitex or saw palmetto?

LacePrincess

January 16th, 2015, 12:49 PM

I know, I'm trying not to get overly obsessive about stuff. Is just so hard! Are you two taking vitex or saw palmetto?

I've never taken SP. I tried Vitex when I was TTC back in late 2012 (ended up getting a bfp but had a m/c and took a long break after). I don't feel that Vitex really helped balance my cycle, I just found it confusing.

So I think if I go back to ttc naturally I'll skip all of that, I prefer working with my natural hormone balance.

momamia4

January 16th, 2015, 01:05 PM

I am not currently taking either. My RE wants to do clomid because I ovulate late in my cycle. So, I'm waiting for atomic to update my sway plan to see what she wants me to do. I didn't want to start either of them without seeing what she has to say about everything. Since I couldn't schedule my tubal reversal until the end of Feb, it pushes back our first attempt to the end of April/beginning of May. I am crossing my fingers that my cycles shorten up a bit because we're planning a trip to AZ at the end of May for my nieces graduation. As it stands right now, I'd get my BFP (if I get preggo the first cycle) while we're on the trip. That would make things difficult because I have to get blood work done as soon as I miss a period to ensure implantation is in the uterus and not the tube (tubal pregnancies are super common after a reversal). I also have to get an ultrasound really quickly too just to verify everything. I've been considering taking the Vitex just to see if it will shorten my cycles a bit (usually 32-34 days long).

luvmyfam

January 18th, 2015, 12:29 AM

I started taking Vitex in the beginning of December. Prior to that I had 2 cycles that were 45 days. My last cycle was 27 days! I don't know about this one because I'm on CD 23 now. I would like to incorporate SP closer to sway time.

luvmyfam

January 18th, 2015, 12:32 AM

On another note, my vegetarian diet is going well. And hubby has been very supportive. Now if only I could him to slow down on his meat eater diet!

momamia4

January 21st, 2015, 05:09 PM

Today:
11am: Smoothie - same strawberry & banana as always. I love it!
2pm: homemade bruschetta on 2 slices of whole grain toast with 2oz mozzarella cheese, purple grape juice and a brownie. ;)
For dinner I am making chicken tacos in the slow cooker. They smell delicious! I am also looking forward to my Dr. Pepper. HAHA!

luvmyfam

January 21st, 2015, 11:00 PM

Your day sounded delicious! How do you make your smoothie?

momamia4

January 22nd, 2015, 09:30 AM

Thanks! :) I use 1 cup of full fat vanilla yogurt, 1 can coconut water, 1 banana, and 2 c strawberries. I just plop it all in my blender and let it go until it's smooth. It's really, really good!!

luvmyfam

January 22nd, 2015, 09:54 AM

Yummo!

momamia4

January 22nd, 2015, 11:19 PM

Today:
10:30am Smoothie
2:00pm 4 chicken nuggets, 1T ranch, 1/2c brown rice, 1T butter, 1c green beans and a box of raisins plus grape juice
6:30pm 2 egg omelet with orange peppers, green onions, and 1oz cheese, 2 slices WG bread and an apple plus a dr. pepper

I have lost 4.5 lbs over the last 3 weeks which is pretty amazing to me! It is extremely difficult for me to lose weight, so this is completely amazeballs. Who knew you could drink Dr. Pepper every day and still lose weight?! Not me!!

luvmyfam

January 22nd, 2015, 11:26 PM

That's awesome!

atomic sagebrush

January 24th, 2015, 12:39 PM

just wanted to mention it is impossible for me to keep up with support threads, so if you guys have any specific q's, start a thread and ask! :)

luvmyfam

June 24th, 2015, 03:17 PM

I haven't posted on here in a while! Just wondering if anyone is currently doing PCOS LE? I'm really starting now! Definitely could use some support!

atomic sagebrush

June 25th, 2015, 01:35 PM

I know there are several out there - sound off!! :)

Bobster

June 25th, 2015, 02:26 PM

I'm sort of doing it luvmyfam but I'm not sure if what I'm doing is 100% right all the time as find it hard to keep track of levels of home cooked things. I'm basically just trying to keep everything low, have really cut out sugary snacks and am eating more brown carbs.

Do you have pcos?

My bloods all came back within range but I have traits of higher testosterone like bad skin so that's why I decided to go on the pcos version.

So today I had brown pasta with reduced fat pesto and peas for lunch and vegetable curry in a baked potato for tea

What kind of meals are you planning?

luvmyfam

June 25th, 2015, 03:23 PM

I'm also having a hard time keeping track of the totals. I've been eating vegetarian but I think I'll add in a few shrimp every now and then. So mostly I'm eating salads, green beans, cabbage, carrots, cucumber, fruits, brown carbs. Is hard to call it "meals" because it mostly feels like I'm eating a bunch of sides lol. Its going to be so hard to not ready meat and nuts. I have to work tonight so I'm probably going to take green beans and yogurt and maybe have a salad. I'm sticking to 1200-1300 cals a day right now.

Are you taking fiber? I'm taking psyllium husk fiber now 2 times a day with meals. I think I want to try chitosan though because a can't stand drinking that stuff!

Bobster

June 26th, 2015, 06:07 AM

You sound like you are doing so well with the diet. I'm still eating meat once a day but try to substitute for prawns often. Completely cut red meat though.

I too am aiming for about 1200 cals.

Where abouts are you in your cycle? I'm due to O on saturday. Trying to keep blood sugars low

luvmyfam

June 26th, 2015, 09:02 AM

Are you TTC this cycle? If so good luck and pink dust! I am expecting AF in a few days. I won't have my first attempt until October.

Bobster

June 26th, 2015, 05:33 PM

Yes we dtd today and will again on Sunday so will be 2x attempts. A but nervous about this!

Bobster

June 27th, 2015, 04:04 AM

Ok so I need advice. I just tested and got a positive opk this morning! We dtd yesterday 26th and twice on 24th (only because I thought this would be out of highly fertile period). Should I still bd on Sunday or should I class yesterday as my one attempt and bd in another 3 days (monday) ?

Bobster

June 27th, 2015, 04:05 AM

I usually o on cd 20 and I'm only cd 18 today

luvmyfam

June 27th, 2015, 08:47 AM

I personally would BD in 3 days. So exciting! Good luck!!

Bobster

June 27th, 2015, 09:18 AM

Thank you! :)

skillet04

June 29th, 2015, 09:28 PM

#1 jel that you both seem to have dependable cycles.... pcos frequently means lack of o and long irratic cycles. add in trying to sway pink when the typical lots of processed carbs and minimum protein to sustain an adult will not help a pcos ovulate so they have to be "sneaky" about swaying and yeah so jel

i tried experimenting with doing the afd not the le pcos to avoid wheat but after 5 days without wheat i had a milkshake and lots of time dispelling that....tmi i know...so i'm thinking small amounts of wheat are ok to avoid that again.

glad to see this thread active again

luvmyfam

June 30th, 2015, 03:50 AM

Hi skillet! Sorry to hear about your cycles. Mine aren't extremely regular (31-40 days usually) but from time to time I will have a long anovulatory cycle. I actually conceived DS 2 on a crazy cycle- I ovulated around CD 45!

I've been on metformin off and on since before I conceived DS 1 and that definitely helps. Oddly enough though, ever since I had DS 2, my allergies have been really bad and I've noticed that when I'm taking allergy medicine regularly throughout a cycle, I'm more regular!

I have only been eating a small amount of brown carbs but I'm getting most of my carbs from fruits.

I really hope you can get your diet and cycles sorted out and be on your way to TTC your girl!

skillet04

June 30th, 2015, 09:49 AM

Interesting about the allergies Allergies, Hay Fever, and Asthma may be linked to PCOS (http://soulcysters.com/allergies-hay-fever-and-asthma-may-be-linked-to-pcos/)

atomic sagebrush

June 30th, 2015, 01:37 PM

We are onto something here ladies!!!!

luvmyfam

June 30th, 2015, 02:55 PM

Oh wow! Interesting article!

luvmyfam

July 6th, 2015, 01:06 PM

Well, I was worried I wouldn't lose weight on the LE. I'm so happy to say that I am! Granted I am doing only 1200 calories, but that is what I was doing before with more fat and protein and wasn't really losing. I'm down to 157!! So excited! Bring on more weight loss and bring on TTC this fall:running:!

luvmyfam

July 8th, 2015, 03:50 PM

This diet IS pretty tough to stick to. I got to cheat at dinner last night because we went out to celebrate our 8th wedding anniversary:). But I keep telling myself "I can eat when I'm pregnant"! Lol.

momamia4

July 8th, 2015, 09:20 PM

You kind of get used to it after a while. I've been on it since January. It's like second nature now.

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luvmyfam

July 9th, 2015, 05:06 PM

Thanks momamia! I see your on your first cycle with clomid. Good luck!!

sunnygirl

January 8th, 2016, 08:09 AM

atomic sagebrush

January 8th, 2016, 02:33 PM

THANK YOU I have been looking for this EVERYWHERE!!! There are several people who could benefit from this thread, keep it going ladies!!

Haking

January 18th, 2016, 08:21 PM

I knowing this is an old thread but I'm finding it so helpful. I've got IR and never thought eating LE would help me lose weight, but it's actually working! AND I'm eating carbs! Anyone else out there IR or PCOS on LE this year?

Me!!! I switched to pcos diet in December and it's been so much better for me for weight loss and regulating my cycle. I think I have IR and not so much pcos.

What diet are you doing? When do you plan to TTC? We are trying in April or May. Just trying to get to my goal weight first or close to it.

atomic sagebrush

January 20th, 2016, 04:16 PM

bump for more responses

sunnygirl

January 23rd, 2016, 09:09 AM

Me!!! I switched to pcos diet in December and it's been so much better for me for weight loss and regulating my cycle. I think I have IR and not so much pcos.

What diet are you doing? When do you plan to TTC? We are trying in April or May. Just trying to get to my goal weight first or close to it.

Awesome! Looking at around June. I want to get my weight down too. Good to see someone at the same stage as me here ��

Haking

January 23rd, 2016, 12:31 PM

Hi sunny girl, it's good to hear others doing pcos diet too.

I sadly have about 25lbs to lose still to get to goal so I would like to get close to that before TTC. I hope in a few months. Did you do LE diet for your last ds?

chocolate

February 20th, 2016, 02:29 PM

Anyone still around doing this? I'm just starting and would love a Pcos diet buddy :-)

3'sacharm

February 20th, 2016, 02:51 PM

Hello chocolate! I am doing le pcos, 1st official month in although been skipping breakfast, reducing protein intake (animal proteins) and cardio 5+ times per week for some months now. I'm still trying to convince hubby to actual go for number 3 (technically no.4 as we lost a boy along the way, but have two boys too). I'm aiming to stop my pill in April if dh comes around to the idea...
I'm happy to buddy up with you ��

chocolate

February 20th, 2016, 04:27 PM

Hi, that's great your doing it too :-) So sorry you lost your boy :-( Hope your Dh comes around. I have told him imagine how quiet the house will be when we are older and we need a big family even if all boys, so we will have regular visitors ;-) I'm waiting for my plan but going to find the food the hardest I think as I don't enjoy plain foods or salads lol.

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mamabear

February 21st, 2016, 10:00 PM

I'm just starting on the PCOS LE diet, we're planning on trying for bub #6 (our last). I have PCOS and all our children have been courtesy of Clomid. We have 5 boys and 1 little angel.

chocolate

February 22nd, 2016, 03:32 AM

Hi mamabear, we will be starting together then :-) Sorry about your loss :-( I have 3 boys and this will be our last try. Hopefully we can share tips together

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Frilly Lady

February 28th, 2016, 05:53 AM

atomic sagebrush

February 28th, 2016, 02:45 PM

Can someone let me know if it's OK to eat soft corn tortilla wraps on the le pcos diet please? I seem to read conflicting things about corn and the reason I ask is because they contain so little fat compared to wholemeal ones. Thanks

If you have moderate to severe PCOS or really bad egg quality (or are going HT) you may have to avoid them, otherwise I think they are ok now and then. Some people with PCOS actually seem to do best avoiding wheat all together so you may want to experiment and see on that.

You realize on PCOS Diet you WANT to be eating more fat as a % of your diet, 50-60 g. Fat free products are actually bad for PCO because they are very carby usually. So if the wholegrains are only an issue for you due to fat content I would probably not worry about that.

chocolate

February 29th, 2016, 12:34 PM

Ahhhhh, help! I need a Pcos friendly easy sauce or something to put on brown rice and veg please! I used an uncle bens savoury wholegrain chicken flavoured rice and mixed it with asparagus and mushrooms and even that is taking me an effort to eat. Any suggestions gratefully received :-)

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atomic sagebrush

February 29th, 2016, 12:50 PM

Can you get these things or similar where you are??? All these sauces are low carb and I ate gobs of all three when I was swaying. Also many people use Ranch or Blue Cheese dressings as well on the alt. diets.

Knorr (http://www.knorr.com/product/detail/245922/pesto)
Hollandaise Sauce Made Easy by Knorr (http://www.knorr.com/product/detail/245917/hollandaise)
Bernsteins : Products : Italian Dressings & Marinade (http://www.bernsteins.com/scripts/products/view.asp?product_id=393)

atomic sagebrush

February 29th, 2016, 12:51 PM

Well, those links are not terribly informative, to describe, the first one is a pesto sauce but it's not really true pesto, there's no nuts in it, mostly just basil, salt, and oil, and the second one is Hollandaise sauce (if you make with full fat milk it's low carb, don't use skim because it's carbier) and then Bernstein's Italian salad dressing.

chocolate

February 29th, 2016, 12:57 PM

No we don't have those in the UK, probably have a version of ranch which may go OK on rice. I'm not a rice or pasta lover naturally so find it hard when not with the usual satay sauce from the Chinese or with bolognaise ;-)

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chocolate

February 29th, 2016, 01:04 PM

What about some sort of coconut based Korma (curry) sauce?

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chocolate

February 29th, 2016, 01:04 PM

Or a Supreme sauce, basically margarine, flour, milk and a bit if mustard for flavour?

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Frilly Lady

February 29th, 2016, 03:10 PM

Chocolate do you like mushroom stroganoff? That goes well with rice if you want the recipe. I buy passata with basil and add my own veg and herbs. I've also bought the kids goodness pasta sauce from Tesco to add to pasta and grate a little vegi Parmesan cheese to it. I've found it quite hard to find something really tasty so I often make my own dishes enough for two days. I also searched for 'roast veg' on bbcgoodfood and found some really nice dishes. Let me know if you want any links.

atomic sagebrush

February 29th, 2016, 03:10 PM

Curry itself is ok, if you can make it without the coconut milk

Anything that's lower carb is good, mustard is certainly allowed. It would depend on how much flour you need to thicken the sauce.

atomic sagebrush

February 29th, 2016, 03:10 PM

marinara is allowed, just not bolognese

atomic sagebrush

February 29th, 2016, 03:11 PM

like frilly mentions sour cream (like in stroganoff) is allowed!

chocolate

February 29th, 2016, 03:16 PM

Yeah I think the supreme would take quite a bit of flour. Thanks Frilly Lady, I have seen the goodness sauce from Tesco so could have that for a change sometimes, I haven't had mushroom stroganoff before but I'll look it up. I typically like cheesy sauces. I'll try some rice with mushrooms and asparagus chucked into some low salt vegetable stock tomorrow to see if that makes it easier to eat ;-)

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atomic sagebrush

February 29th, 2016, 03:17 PM

In LE Diet section in the Dream Members forum I have a recipe for curried potatoes and peas which is vegetarian but ok for PCOS too

chocolate

February 29th, 2016, 03:18 PM

That might be a good alternative

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atomic sagebrush

February 29th, 2016, 03:22 PM

It's yummy too. :)

chocolate

March 1st, 2016, 01:57 PM

After Google of low gi, it seems instant noodles have a low gi so would noodles be OK on the Pcos diet daily? Maybe without the sachet flavouring but with some added veg. And possibly low salt stock? Noodles are easier to eat than pasta, what do you think?

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atomic sagebrush

March 1st, 2016, 08:47 PM

I personally prefer that you guys focus not on GI but on cals, protein, fat, I just think that you start looking up GI stuff and it's another thing to sit and think about. I personally wouldn't do a lot of noodles if I had PCOS. Potatoes and rice (even white rice) seem better tolerated.

atomic sagebrush

July 8th, 2016, 02:16 PM

bump! I know a lot of people need this thread right now!

Hopefullmummy

July 11th, 2016, 07:23 AM

Hi ladies.

Can anyone help me with ideas for veggies ? I've come off a low carb diet to sway girl and I'm so used to being strict about carbs I need some ideas for veggies I can eat with PCOS that are still moderately carby ( only so much zucchini and cauliflower etc a girl can eat with out the yummy fats and meat ) and within the Le PCOS diet.

What veggies are you eating ? I've been having eggplant , peas, corn , zucchini, salad veggies

Frilly Lady

July 11th, 2016, 08:03 AM

Ho hopeful I roast red pepper, zucchini, red onion, mushrooms and asparagus with a garlic glove and chilli flakes. I either put it in a pitta bread with a little hard cheese or add a tin of chopped tomatoes and a teaspoon of harissa pasta and bring it to the boil on the hob. Hope that gives you some more ideas.

skillet04

July 11th, 2016, 12:07 PM

Pumpkin, butternut squash, spaghetti squash :)

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Hopefullmummy

July 11th, 2016, 06:32 PM

Yum that sounds great. Thanks

atomic sagebrush

July 13th, 2016, 12:04 PM

Bumping

queen-of-harts

July 13th, 2016, 08:34 PM

32169 I am not good at this diet! I am full for the night and I just added the Hershey bar for extra calories but we see what it did for sugar lol.Im vegetarian now so I'm never sure what I'm doing anymore when it comes to food.

queen-of-harts

July 13th, 2016, 08:36 PM

Ugh now my picture isn't visable.Im feeling defeated today :(

skillet04

July 14th, 2016, 09:10 AM

Re: going vegetarian might be more difficult if doing the pcos version under the 5 times a day choose from this list it does have a small portion of chicken or turkey listed since more protein grams available to counter less carbs (sugar).... or if doing the fertility diet version it states that it allows up to a half a pound of meat daily or 8oz total or 4oz per meal if eating 2 meals daily etc. Hope that helps someone ;)

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atomic sagebrush

July 14th, 2016, 02:06 PM

Yeah you can't do a Hershey bar on PCOS diet LOL.

I unfortunately can't really get a good look at your nutrient data, if you can repost it I could see what I'd tweak for you.

I find that PCOSers may be better off doing at least a little meat and not just vegetarian.

queen-of-harts

July 14th, 2016, 03:30 PM

32194 if this doesn't work I'll type it in.Im not sure why it's hazy

queen-of-harts

July 14th, 2016, 03:35 PM

This is Tuesday.I guess what I'm doing is I'm not hungry but I have such a limited amount of calories and I know that's not good long term so I'm eating dairy and sweets to add calories at the end of the day.I really don't care for meat.Maybe seafood and chicken on occasion but not daily.32195

atomic sagebrush

July 15th, 2016, 01:25 PM

Plus you're counting some things like green beans and mushrooms that are free and unlimited.

The first step is to be sure you're getting 50-60 g protein and 50-60 g fat from somewhere (even if it's a pat of butter on the greenbeans it still counts and adds calories). I also think you may be better off adding in a third meal if you get full that easily. Do you like eggs, beans, nuts at all??

queen-of-harts

July 15th, 2016, 02:17 PM

I like all those things

queen-of-harts

July 15th, 2016, 02:22 PM

I honestly wish I could just come up with 3 or 4 different daily meal plans so I can just rotate them.Thinking about what to eat everyday stresses me out and causes anxiety which I'm sure isn't good.

atomic sagebrush

July 15th, 2016, 02:41 PM

I like all those things

Those are going to be good go-to foods for you then. Beans are quite carby but nothing like a Hershey bar :)

I would start off structuring your protein and fat intake. A couple eggs, some hummus with those Wheat Thins, cheese ****s (seriously, cheese is addictive, doesn't seem like a meal but then suddenly you find yourself addicted to it) seafood a couple times a week, a pat of butter or margarine on your veggies - build the protein and fat structure first and then you fill in the blanks with the carbier foods.

ahorn586

July 15th, 2016, 05:06 PM

I honestly wish I could just come up with 3 or 4 different daily meal plans so I can just rotate them.Thinking about what to eat everyday stresses me out and causes anxiety which I'm sure isn't good.

I'm doing the PCOS version too because I maybe a little IR. I have attached a few of my meal plans. I hope they help you out.
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But disregard the rice milk instead use creamer. Also, disregard the lite ranch and go for full fat ranch.

Hopefullmummy

July 27th, 2016, 01:43 AM

Those meals are great.

I do whole meal toast with hummus, tomatoes, mushrooms for lunch. With a yogurt or popcorn.
Or rice cakes with cream cheese, tomatoes, cucumbers and yoghurt , sugar free icecream or popcorn

Dinner is peas, green beans, peppers with marinara sauce and cheese. Or pita pizzas I make. Or a cheese and salad sandwich. I add margarine, Parmesan and cheese when I'm low on fat or protein. Peas are a good source for protein too.

I also do have moments I cheat a little or eat a left over chicken nugget etc. some days if I'm out and eat I'm not sure on cals but whatever. 1 hr of cardio every day is so huge for me I'm sure that counteracts it. I'm also losing weight so that must be an indication that times are tougher than before. The protein and fat amount is much less than before too so it must be swaying more girl than boy.

atomic sagebrush

July 27th, 2016, 06:34 PM

^^^ if you're on Metformin, you have even more leeway with the cheating than some others do. It's not carte blanche of course but it is more forgiving than someone, for example, who is trying to control severe PCOS via diet alone.

Hopefullmummy

July 27th, 2016, 07:11 PM

Yep I thought so too.

I'm the lowest weight I've been postpartum ever. Feels amazing and so good to be myself again. Once I get to my wedding weight or less I'll feel even more amazing. But I just want to say thank you for making me love exercise. I have never ever liked it and now I realise it's not just about burning calories. It's about keeping your blood sugar low which is what you want to lose weight.

The fact this sway has motivated me to lose more weight already feels like a success to me no matter what the outcome. I know a lot of ladies here are at a healthy BMI but for me I just kept on putting on weight with the boys combined and never lost it after. So this just feels like a blessing regardless. And to be able to be at a heathy weight going into my third pregnancy will be great.

Dreamsister

August 3rd, 2016, 07:40 AM

I am doing the PCOS LE diet :-) I want to appologize that I am not so active as you girls on this thread. Don't have much time, but I do read your posts and appreciate it a lot.

EnglishDame

September 20th, 2016, 10:25 AM

Help! I'm really fussy with foods I'm a really plain water and every meal ideas I see on here I think I couldn't eat that. Can you eat plain foods and still follow the plan? I would really like to try in November which gives us just under 8 weeks before my November ovulation. Going to get supplements organised, I already have folic acid and vitex. Need to decide what else to take!

atomic sagebrush

September 20th, 2016, 10:44 AM

Of course!! That is the nice thing about LE Diet (both the standard and the PCO-type diet) is that it can be done with foods that YOU like.

All you have to do is just get 1500-1800 cals a day (a few people might have to eat a little more or a little less than that) with 50-60 g protein and 50-60 g fat. The carbohydrates you eat should be fruits, vegetables, and whole grains (some people can do white rice too as that is better tolerated than sugar or white flour). Low carb vegetables are free and unlimited. For fruit and higher carb veg, you count only calories and not protein or fat. That's it!! Then you have freedom within those limits to eat what you want.

jensy

September 29th, 2016, 03:35 AM

Can you have coffee and Diet Coke on PCOS diet?

EnglishDame

October 8th, 2016, 04:59 AM

Hopefullmummy

October 9th, 2016, 06:33 PM

I have been drinking caffeine free Diet Coke as caffeine is meant to cause a spike in blood sugars?
I really want to get a personalised away plan I need help I'm finding it all so confusing but we want to try when I ovulate right before xmas so I have 9 weeks to sway. Does anyone know how long it takes atomic to make up the plan?

I've been having lots of caffeine and Diet Coke.

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atomic sagebrush

October 11th, 2016, 12:37 PM

Can you have coffee and Diet Coke on PCOS diet?

Oh sorry I only just now saw this...I have really really looked into this at length and I believe coffee to be beneficial for all pink swayers.

It's quite complicated but the idea that caffeine raises blood sugar is actually probably not the case (it may for a short time but then over the course of time it has a beneficial effect, unfortunately originally they only studied it for the short term effects and not the long term) This is why coffee may help prevent type 2 diabetes and fatty liver.

atomic sagebrush

October 11th, 2016, 12:38 PM

I have been drinking caffeine free Diet Coke as caffeine is meant to cause a spike in blood sugars?
I really want to get a personalised away plan I need help I'm finding it all so confusing but we want to try when I ovulate right before xmas so I have 9 weeks to sway. Does anyone know how long it takes atomic to make up the plan?

Please read above reply regarding caffeine.

It takes me about 7-10 days to do the plans and then my helper posts them which can sometimes take another day or two. So maybe as long as 12 days under worst case, but usually more like a week.

jensy

October 12th, 2016, 11:15 PM

What about milk thistle if you have a poor funtioning liver?

atomic sagebrush

October 15th, 2016, 02:30 PM

Oh sorry jensy, this one sneaked past me. I don't have enough info to know how this sways. On paper, I can see how it might possibly sway pink since it lowers blood sugar and cholesterol, but it is not something I can honestly say "yeah I've seen X number of people take this and get girls". Sorry I wish I could give you more info.

GlitterMouse

October 18th, 2016, 05:47 AM

Hi ladies, can I join you?

I'm just starting out on the PCOS diet. I've been doing LE for 9 months and Atomic has advised me to give PCOS diet a go so here I am!

I don't know very much yet so will read through the whole thread and then will probably have a hundred questions!

To start things off, what do you guys choose in a restaurant? I've got a few occasions coming up and don't know where to start? Need to erase LE and start thinking PCOS style!

Anette

October 18th, 2016, 07:55 AM

Hi Glittermouse,
I am also new to this but I think you can get a big salad as main course in a restaurant, or even grilled fish if you have the option :)

atomic sagebrush

October 23rd, 2016, 12:42 PM

I recommend fish or shellfish on occasions when you need to eat out. Salads are also great. Stirfry or curry and then go easy on the rice. What I'd not do is something super carby such as pasta. While that could be a good choice on standard LE, you are trying to still follow a pink sway diet without going overboard on the carbs, and pasta servings in restaurants are often massive.

One thing to consider is the "halfsies" rule where you order something (even if a bit of a cheat) and then only eat half of it, and take the rest home in a doggie bag to eat at a later time.

GlitterMouse

October 25th, 2016, 07:13 AM

Thanks for your reply Atomic. I've taken to downloading restaurant menus and choosing in advance. I used to be the last to choose and now I'm wowing my friends and family with my super efficiency :wink:

atomic sagebrush

October 29th, 2016, 02:24 PM

The nice thing is about eating in a restaurant, even something relatively spartan can feel like quite a treat so you may find it easier than you think it will be keeping even within limits on diet while dining out. :)

atomic sagebrush

May 8th, 2017, 01:56 PM

Hey, just bumping this up to remind everyone of this thread. We have scads of swayers on PCOS-type diets right now, please shout out the foods and recipes that are working for you!! :)

Mommy2apples

May 8th, 2017, 01:57 PM

Really enjoy hummus wraps, the matzo pizza, egg white sandwiches.

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Mommy2apples

May 8th, 2017, 01:59 PM

Progreso canned lite soups, baked potatoes. Enjoy the black bean crunchy tacos every now and then. I usually daily have a smoothie made from the coconut water, whole fat yogurt, a banana and about four strawberries. Then I love unsalted sunflower seeds so usually eat those lunch and dinner.

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Mommy2apples

May 8th, 2017, 02:00 PM

Eat grilled chicken breast or some sort of chicken breast once or twice a week sometimes more.

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Mommy2apples

May 8th, 2017, 02:01 PM

Then have carrots and hummus almost daily and really enjoy treating myself to a graham cracker with peanut butter about three times a week.

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Frilly Lady

May 9th, 2017, 04:36 AM

My go to foods are wholemeal pitta breads. I usually put in them roasted veg with sour cream, chopped salad with cheese and mayonnaise, or falafel with salad, sour cream and salsa. I find them really filling too.

Frilly Lady

May 9th, 2017, 04:44 AM

Today I'm having a wholemeal salad sandwich for lunch. Dinner will be wholegrain rice with roast veg. I roast red onions, peppers, mushrooms and courgette with a little garlic. When it's done I pop it on the hob and add a tin of chopped tomatoes, a small tin of chickpeas, chilli, smoked paprika and any herbs I fancy. Heat through for a short while, then add it to my rice.

Frilly Lady

May 9th, 2017, 04:47 AM

Then have carrots and hummus almost daily and really enjoy treating myself to a graham cracker with peanut butter about three times a week.

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The peanuts butter sounds nice Mommy2apples, notheard of matzo pizza though!

Mommy2apples

May 9th, 2017, 06:34 AM

The peanuts butter sounds nice Mommy2apples, notheard of matzo pizza though!

It's one of Atomic's recipes! Really yummy!
1 Matzo (I have Yehuda Brand - I bought several boxes after Passover to save $$) (125 calorie 0 fat 3 g pro 0 sodium) 1/4 c. store bought pasta or pizza sauce (if you can find lowfat/low sodium, use it!!) (55 calorie, 2.5 g fat, 2 g pro, 310 mg sod 200 mg pot)
1/2 oz. (or less) sprinkling of shredded mozzarella (you can use Swiss, but you really need very little cheese so why not splurge on the mozz??)
(40 calorie, 3 g fat, 3.5 g pro, 100 mg sod)
1/4 c fresh vegetables that YOU like, cut into bite size (peppers, zucchini, mushroom, fresh tomato, spinach...if you've never tried fresh broccoli on pizza, you might like it)

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Pink rose

May 9th, 2017, 10:51 AM

Frilly Lady

May 9th, 2017, 11:07 AM

Hi I'm also trying the pcos diet, I tried swaying before, then went hi tech with no luck & im now back swaying again. Waisted a lot of years and money & still no baby at the end of it all.
It's nice to read what others are eating & get ideas from them, I seem to eat the same things every day
Wholemeal bread with vegetable, minestrone or carrot soup, white or brown rice with peppers onions other veg, wholemeal tortilla wraps with salad, cheese, mayo. Cheese salad sandwiches. I eat fruit & yogurt with my meals to keep me full. I don't think I'm great at this diet but I'm trying my best. I seem to always be at the upper end of calories.
Frilly lady I see you are from the uk & would be using the same supermarkets as me, I hope you don't mind me asking but what kind of bread, pittas are you using I use kingsmill wholemeal & hope it's the right kind. I also wondered can kingsmill 50/50 bread be used on this diet?
Does anyone have any nice treats or cheats they use on this diet?
I'm looking forward to reading all the new food ideas & trying some of them,

Hi Pink, welcome over from hi-tech. I also tried ht, 5 lots in fact but no luck either. I've also been trying to get pregnant for two years on and off as I can't maintain this diet for long, I loose too much weight really quick.
The pitta bread I use is Tesco whole meal, depending how hungry I am I either have one large on or two smaller ones. I keep them in the freezer so I've always got them in. There is so little of anything in them that you can stuff them full with loads of salad or veg. I'm sure the kingsmill ones are fine as they are wholemeal too. The 50/50 bread contains white bread ingredients so if you are going strict on the pcos diet I'd give it a miss. The bread I use is hovis wholemeal which is low on most things. Tesco used to sell wholegrain bread but I can no longer find it. If you are craving something a little sweet try peanut butter on a cracker. I can't have fruit as it affects my immune problems so I'm going to try the peanut butter on quinoa cakes which I get from Tesco too. Also a nakd bar if you're really struggling, they come in all flavours. I see you use tortilla wraps, have you tried making those into a quesadilla. I use a pizza base spread to keep the levels down then top with mushrooms, onions, peppers and grated mozzarella. Pop another one on top with pizza spread on too then fry it with a dry pan, no oil, until crispy both sides. I love these! Hope that helps. Frilly

atomic sagebrush

May 9th, 2017, 12:04 PM

If you lose weight too fast you need to up calories or even add in some white grains and sugar to compensate. I would much rather you did that than to be going off and onto diet.

Frilly Lady

May 9th, 2017, 12:14 PM

If you lose weight too fast you need to up calories or even add in some white grains and sugar to compensate. I would much rather you did that than to be going off and onto diet.

I can't have sugar due to immune problems and I cannot keep a lot of carbs down due to stomach problems. But you're right I do need to eat more or cut back on exercise. At the moment I'm at an ok weight so I'm keeping going thanks atomic.

atomic sagebrush

May 9th, 2017, 01:27 PM

Oh yes of course the rules are different for you in that case.

Pink rose

May 10th, 2017, 04:54 PM

Thanks Frilly Lady for all your food ideas, I'm just back from tescos got some nakd bars, wholemeal bread &other things to keep me going on this diet.
I hope we both have luck on this diet & our dreams come true. I always thought going hi tech was a guarantee of a girl but there are so many people it doesn't work for & I guess we were both unlucky.

I also loose weight very quickly so I need to keep my calories up I don't want to have to stop swaying & take a break because time is definitely not on my side. Do you include biscuits like whole meal belvita or are they a definite no on the diet, also what about a small amount of jam on whole meal toast? Sorry for all the questions but you seem to know what your doing with this diet.

Today I drank 4 cups of americano coffee through out the morning.
Lunch was a cheese salad sandwich wholemeal bread, an apple, a pear & some grapes
Dinner was ministrone soup with 2 slices of whole meal bread, some grapes & raspberries, yogurt & some Rose wine
I also drank Diet Coke through out the day

I hope these food choices are ok on the pcos diet, please let me know what you think.

Frilly Lady

May 11th, 2017, 03:54 AM

Hi Pink rose, it sounds like you're doing great on the diet too. I don't consume too much sugar as I've got immune problems that flare up, fruit and biscuits being a big no no. But the wholegrain belvita are always good to keep in because you can reach for them instead of grabbing a regular biscuit. There is a really low sugar jam called ******line they also sell in Tesco, but if you're not too bothered about your sugar then a little wouldn't be so bad. I'm sure atomic will be able to let you know for sure.
I think the reason I'm loosing so fast is because like you I can't have the extra fruit and yogurts to bulk it out, but I've just bought some matzos and crunchy peanut butter so I'm going to indulge in them a few times a week to see if that works. I've just started drinking alcohol too, I've treated myself to some cherry vodka and soda water as they don't contain sugar.

I've got homemade vegi lasagne for dinner tonight with some roast veg. For lunch it'll probably be a salad sandwich as it's my day off and I want to enjoy the sun while it's here!

babybells

May 11th, 2017, 04:15 AM

I am slowly adjusting my diet to the LE way - I eat quite clean, apart from the occassional treats as it is, just need to get protein down as low as I can without feeling flakey.

I have found a snack box for lunch of egg (yes I know I should cut down on these, and I will closer to the 12w mark of TTC) and a mixture of cucumber, carrot, celery, grapes, apple etc etc to keep me going. And can mix it up each day. I hold off having breakfast until normally 10amish and that is normally a yoghurt.
Dinner is whatever the family has but I pile more veggies on the plate than meat.
Coffee every day, especially if feeling hungry, or even a Diet Coke.

Soup is also a good one or some brown rice with veggies mixed through.

Pink rose

May 11th, 2017, 06:28 AM

Frilly I must get some of the low sugar jam in tescos I enjoy whole meal toast with jam. I'm going to try to get really strict over the next few weeks on the diet going to attempt in July. I have been on & off this diet foerever! Although i did the standard le & just loved empty carbs but for egg quality I changed over to this diet.

I'm drinking wine each night & I usually I don't drink much alcohol a complete change for me, the vodka sounds good! Is it ok to drink coffee with a bit of milk between meals to keep me going?

Baby bells your diet seems very well I use eggs to but am keeping them to a minimum as I ate loads when I conceived my boys'
Frilly enjoy the sun & your day off! I'm trying to be more relaxed & just taking each day as it comes trying not to stress over foods & totals just staying in the right tracks.

Frilly Lady

May 11th, 2017, 07:43 AM

Yes a little milk with your coffee is fine. We are meant to use full fat though on the pcos diet but I'm naughty and don't usually have it in. I usually have a coffee with milk when I'm starting to get hungry in between meals and it does help.

Babybells you sound as though you're doing just great. You can always just have egg whites and limit it to a few times a week.

Mommy2apples

May 11th, 2017, 08:15 AM

Baby bells I have egg whites sandwiches at least twice a week :) they are really good! Actually having one for lunch today!

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EnglishDame

May 11th, 2017, 10:01 AM

Hi ladies, hope you don't mind if I join you here. I am doing the pcos diet and we are starting trying in July. I find the diet hard because I'm so worried about eating the wrong things. For bread I have been eating gluten and wheat free bread as I am sure I read somewhere on here that bread should be wheat free for the pcos le?

I find a tin of soup with 2 slices of this bread (I prefer homemade soup but for the purposes of counting macros I have tinned at the moment) great for lunch. Quick and easy! For dinner I like baked potato, carrots and 2 slices of turkey sandwich meat my go to dinner. With some gravy too.
I also like wholemeal Pitta with tomato pizza base spread and a small amount of mozzarella cheese on top.
I will mostly be eating variants of this until bfp.

I have clomid and metformin too so hoping these help!

EnglishDame

May 11th, 2017, 10:01 AM

Mommy2apples

May 11th, 2017, 10:06 AM

Welcome mama, I'll be trying in June!

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Mommy2apples

May 11th, 2017, 10:21 AM

Welcome mama, I'll be trying in June!

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Frilly Lady

May 11th, 2017, 10:21 AM

Welcome Englishdame, I think if it's wholegrain that's fine, but gluten free is great too. I'm sure atomic has said in the past the results on gluten free diets are good. Your diet sounds good, I like the sound of pitta pizzas!

hopetoswaypink

May 11th, 2017, 10:22 AM

Hi! I am on the PCOS diet too!

Is dried fruit in cereal bars ok on the PCOS diet, I thought dried fruit was too high in sugar and we should stick to fresh fruit as it has a higher fibre content??

Mommy2apples

May 11th, 2017, 10:23 AM

I'm not sure, sometimes I have raisins..

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hopetoswaypink

May 11th, 2017, 10:27 AM

I also noticed wholegrain belvita have added vitamins in them, so maybe we should avoid them??

It's hard isn't it, maybe atomic can help later!!

Mommy2apples

May 11th, 2017, 10:30 AM

It is! I'm sure she will weigh in! I just hope we all get our baby girls we want so bad!

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Frilly Lady

May 11th, 2017, 11:08 AM

Frilly Lady

May 11th, 2017, 11:17 AM

I also noticed wholegrain belvita have added vitamins in them, so maybe we should avoid them??

It's hard isn't it, maybe atomic can help later!!

Never thought about that mommy2apples!

Mommy2apples

May 11th, 2017, 11:26 AM

Me either! Hopefully she will weigh in and let us know!!

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babybells

May 12th, 2017, 01:11 AM

Hi Englishdame!! Welcome to the group.

We are TTC in September. So still awhile for me here.

What are people doing with the yolk if they are just eating the egg whites?

Also do you think tuna mornay with heaps of veggie and pasta would be okay?

Pink rose

May 12th, 2017, 05:15 AM

Mommy2apples

May 12th, 2017, 06:41 AM

Babybells, I just toss the yolks. Pink Rose I'm not sure.

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hopetoswaypink

May 12th, 2017, 07:12 AM

atomic sagebrush

May 12th, 2017, 03:59 PM

Hi! I am on the PCOS diet too!

Is dried fruit in cereal bars ok on the PCOS diet, I thought dried fruit was too high in sugar and we should stick to fresh fruit as it has a higher fibre content??

I just want to let you guys know I can't always keep up on these type of threads as they move pretty fast so whenever something like this comes up, please start a dedicated thread (which someone did but I don't think eveyrone will see it)

Those things are pretty carby. Some people can tolerate more carbs (and in fact may need more to prevent excess weight loss) but many people with PCOS can't do them, at least not regularly.

Especially with the PCO-type diets, you guys have to let go of the "magic foods" idea. It's overall intake that matters. If you've already had 4 pieces of bread, a peach, some rice, a potato, then adding raisins may be too much. Another person who has had pretty low carb intake and wants some raisins can fit them in.

So let BOTH your personal needs and also the foods you've already had for the day, be your guide.

atomic sagebrush

May 12th, 2017, 03:59 PM

Pink rose

May 13th, 2017, 12:35 PM

Hi how is every one doing with their diets. I think I'm getting used to it now although im still eating the same things it doesn't matter as I know it's not forever!
Yesterday I had 4 coffees with a small amount of milk,
Lunch was a cheese salad sandwich on whole meal bread, an apple, a pear & some grapes.
Dinner was white rice, vegetables & gravy sauce, I had some grapes after dinner. I had a glass of rose wine & drank lots of Sprite Zero throughout the day.

Mommy2apples

May 13th, 2017, 12:49 PM

I drink diet Dr Pepper all the time.
Yesterday for lunch I of course had my smoothie, a cup of cheesy potato soup, some
Unsalted sunflower seeds, a graham cracker with peanut butter, and a string cheese. Dinner I had turkey on whole grain bread with cheese and lettuce and a banana.

Today so far I've had my smoothie, a matzo pizza, carrot sticks, sliced cucumbers, hummus, and some unsalted sunflower seeds

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Frilly Lady

May 13th, 2017, 03:55 PM

Yesterday for lunch I had a salad sandwich on wholemeal and for dinner I had a stir fry with wholegrain rice and a vodka and soda.

Today's lunch was the same and for dinner I had a king prawn bhuna with wholegrain rice. That's my weekly treat.

Tomorrow I'm going to try a matzo pizza, hope it's nice!

I always feel really down about the diet on a weekend and I find it so hard not to cheat.

atomic sagebrush

May 13th, 2017, 03:56 PM

Ive been using some white rice at times does anyone know if this is ok on the pcos diet or does it need to be brown. It's just when we are eating out or order a Chinese white rice is always what I have with vegetables a small amount of sauce.

Weirdly, according to some research white rice is pretty well tolerated and so unless you have moderate to severe PCOS and literally can't have carbs, white rice is usually ok for most people who are doing it for egg quality.

Mommy2apples

May 13th, 2017, 04:20 PM

I had homemade cheesy potato soup for dinner :)

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Pink rose

May 14th, 2017, 06:35 AM

Thanks atomic it makes things so much easier for me including white rice in my diet, but if I'm making it a home I will use brown.

I find weekends hard sticking to the diet, but I'm telling myself it's not for ever!

Yesterday I had about five coffees through out the day.
Lunch was a wolegrain tortilla wrap with cheese, salad & a small bit of mayo & sweet chili sauce. An apple, a pear & some grapes.
Dinner was ministrone soup with wholemeal bread, some grapes & a glass of wine.
I'm using a lot of soup on this diet eating it with wholemeal bread as it really fills me up.
I'm also using a stationary bike 5 times a week. 60 minutes each time, I also did an hour walk last night with dh.
What do you ladies do for treats or do you ever have a treat day every few weeks?

EnglishDame

May 14th, 2017, 07:46 AM

I also find soup with brown bread also fills me up nicely. Especially minestrone as it has quite a strong taste so I don't crave anything afterwards :)

How are we all feeling about the fizzy pop thing? Are you drinking lots of it? I'm not sure what's recommended as I seen a thread on here before that said it can sometimes produce opposites. I drank loads of it before I had my son so I am definitely trying to drink some water in between times and maybe 3/4 Coke zeros a day instead of every time I have a drink it's that. Any thoughts?

Pink rose

May 14th, 2017, 09:56 AM

I never drank fizzy pop in my life but I am trying to drink Diet Coke & diet sprite for my sway I usually add some sprite into my wine at night. I'm not sure is Coke Zero better than Diet Coke?
At the minute I'm second guessing everything I'm doing, I always feel it will never be enough to sway pink. I keep thinking I'm doing something wrong my husband also wants me to get pregnant quickly & doesn't want us trying for months, I'm feeling hopeless but trying hard to keep everything going.
English Dame what do you usually eat when you crave something nice after a meal? I'm using fruit but any other ideas?

EnglishDame

May 14th, 2017, 10:25 AM

I've no idea about which is best tbh. I prefer Coke Zero but I do drink both.
I know what you mean about feeling it won't be enough. I'm already thinking we'll hang off another month. I suppose I just don't want to have regrets and I really can't imagine getting a girl it would be a dream.
I have pcos so cut out sugar so I just try and distract myself after dinner tbh. It's hard though.

atomic sagebrush

May 14th, 2017, 01:34 PM

Fizzy pop produces opposites? Opposites to what?

EnglishDame

May 14th, 2017, 02:24 PM

For girl sways I meant, did I not read on here a thread that said that? Maybe more focused on the aspartame?

EnglishDame

May 14th, 2017, 02:26 PM

babybells

May 14th, 2017, 09:20 PM

Diet is going okay -

Been living off mushrooms, egg and spinach for breakfast, no lunch and tacos for dinner with a lot of wine!
Yesterday was the same for breakfast, corn chips for lunch and then pizza for dinner with more wine!

Mommy2apples - cheesey potato soup sounds good!

Mommy2apples

May 14th, 2017, 09:46 PM

Pink rose

May 15th, 2017, 05:00 AM

Hi English Dame I just read some of the thread about fizzy drinks. I am just using them in moderation, I mostly drink coffee with milk to keep me going. I think they are fine in moderation.
I'm trying my best to be relaxed about my sway & not worry about every single thing I eat but it's hard I'm usually easy going about most things not I suppose I want this so badly it gets to me at times.
Baby bells do you make your own pizza base or just buy ready made ones?
Yesterday I had 3 coffees with a bit of milk
Lunch was whole meal toast with Jam, an apple, pear & grapes.
I had some more coffee & Diet Coke to keep me going all day.
Dinner was veg soup 3 slices of whole meal bread, some grapes.
I'm surprised I did ok yesterday because I was hungary all day but just tried to keep busy.
No wine last night.

EnglishDame

May 15th, 2017, 06:55 AM

Pink Rose a lot of what you say resonates with me I feel like I want it for other people almost as much as I want it for myself because i know we're all in the same boat here.
How many calories do you eat a day? Do you count them?
Ps pitta bread makes a good pizza base if you fancy some :)

Pink rose

May 15th, 2017, 09:27 AM

English Dame I'm always at the upper end of calories near 1800 most days this scares me because I ate much lower calories when I conceived my boys but I suppose I was eating different foods then. I need to eat quite big meals because I'm starving by the time in ready to eat & I need to feel full to keep me going.

I was always a healthy eater but I used to eat granary bread, lots of cereals, fruit juices, low fat dairy, eggs, I never ate lot of protein so I'm hoping the changes I've made are enough to away pink. I also drank tea all day long & never drank alcohol I now drink coffee & wine most nights.
I track sometimes but I kinda know now on average what I'm eating as it's the same few things. I keep thinking I'm going to track my foods every day but I end up not because i don't want to get obsessed over it all.

atomic sagebrush

May 15th, 2017, 11:23 AM

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/44710-hypothetical-aspartame-thread.html?highlight=Aspartame

This is the thread I was thinking of, I read it ages ago. Sorry I wasn't clearer.

That has absolutely nothing to do with fizzy drinks though. It has to do with people ingesting mindboggling and terrifying amounts of aspartame and a seeming correlation (which I still see from time to time BTW) with boys. People on Ingender, or who came to this site after having a failed IG sway, who were drinking GALLONS of aspartame beverages with extra aspartame stirred into them, every day, only to get boys anyway.

Now I can't totally say if it is truly levels of aspartame or that kind of "control freak" mindset that would have someone deciding that this was a great idea to do this and then focusing on forcing themselves to drink gross beverages all day for months on end, but either way, it clearly is not a grand way to get a girl and I don't want anyone doing that.

Fizzy drinks are fine.

2-3 servings of aspartame drinks are fine.

Gallons of Crystal Light a day are not fine and may even make opposites.

EnglishDame

May 15th, 2017, 04:07 PM

Thanks Atomic, I think I had just remembered it in my head in terms of fizzy drinks as that is the only way I take in aspartame (that I can think of) thanks very much for clarifying :)

babybells

May 15th, 2017, 10:42 PM

Rosepink - the pizza was from the local pizza shop. Given it was Mothers Day a cheat day was in order. I would have gone over allowed calories for the day just with all the wine I drank anyway!

Pink rose

May 16th, 2017, 02:01 AM

Well everyone deserves pizza & wine on Mother's Day! hope you had a nice day.

Yesterday I had coffe with milk throughout the morning
Lunch was whole meal toast with a small bit of butter, grapes, apples & raspberries with some yogurt.
Dinner I had carrot & coriander soup with whole meal bread, some wine with dinner & I had some more grapes & raspberries after dinner.
Although that doesn't look much I had 1650 calories yesterday!

Frilly Lady

May 17th, 2017, 03:31 PM

Today for lunch I had two slices of toast with a little butter. For dinner I had two matzo pizzas with shop bought sauce, mushrooms and grated mozzarella. Then afterwards I had half a matzo with peanut butter. Still loosing weight so I'm upping my fat which really worries me, but my calls are always under. What sort of numbers is everyone aiming for?

babybells

May 17th, 2017, 11:31 PM

Hi Frilly Lady. My calories at present are set around 2000 - Yes on the high end but I work out a lot and am trying to lower them down slowly the closer I get to the 12 week mark for TTC. Dont want to lose too much weight too early on but just gradual.

Also - I am working more on ensuring I meet the LE guidelines majority of the time over a whole week, instead of just focusing on one day. I figured it all balances out in the end so if one day is high in protein but the rest really low - it all balances.

Pink rose

May 18th, 2017, 03:00 AM

Frilly Lady my calories always end up between 1600 - 1800. I sometimes worry I'm eating to much & drinking to much coffee between meals. My weight is now about 108, I don't want to or couldn't loose any more so I have to eat plenty at meal times. Could you add in more cheese, full fat yogurt or some extra treats a few nights after dinner.
Do you do loads of exercise? I'm doing 5 days per week on stationary bike & trying to fit an hours walk in 1 day a week. I think the cardio makes you loose weight quickly.
It does play with your head when you have to keep adding in healthier foods as we tend to associate them with having boys! But this diet is getting good results so hopefully we are all very lucky.

Frilly Lady

May 18th, 2017, 08:01 AM

Thanks ladies. My calories are usually between 1000 and 1500 but my fat is around 30g. I can't eat any sweet snacks like fruit or yogurt so I'm upping things like mayo and cheese, plus I eat a lot of veg and salad so my cals will probably be more if we were counting them. I'm exercising on the treadmill 6 days a week as I never exercised with my boys.

For lunch I'm having wholemeal salad sandwich with mayo. For dinner we're having homemade mushroom stroganoff with wholegrain rice.

Pink rose

May 18th, 2017, 10:14 AM

My fat would be around 30-40g every day. If you want to stick to 2 meals a day you could add a cracker & peanut butter after lunch. I eat a lot of salad & fruit with my meals.
Frilly you seem to be sticking to the diet really well & with the amount of exercise you would be fine to up your fat intake with cheese & mayo.
My carbs seem to be quite high even though they are whole meal.

atomic sagebrush

May 18th, 2017, 10:18 AM

PCOS dieters, you need to be eating 50-60 g protein and 50-60 g fat (for same amount of calories) This is so you are in effect cutting carbs without having to think about it. If you eat the same # of cals, but a higher % protein and fat, you're eating fewer carbs by default. Additionally you're eating the better carbs. But it's a good idea to up the pro and fat as well and it is MANDATORY for anyone doing PCOS type diet for PCOS!

babybells

May 19th, 2017, 01:38 AM

Hey ladies - I use MFP to track my food - I know it tracks everything, but at least I know how I am travelling. On average I am around 51g for protein and 48g for fats. I find yoghurt a good way to get more fats in and it feels you up :)

atomic sagebrush

May 19th, 2017, 11:42 AM

Also be aware that MFP will count the protein in fruit and veg, which we do NOT count, so you may need to eat even more to make up the difference.

It is REALLY important on PCOS diet that you eat more protein and fat because too many carbs are your enemy!

EnglishDame

May 19th, 2017, 01:45 PM

Atomic quick question, is it the overall amount of carbs that can be too many or is it the amount of carbs in relation to the calories you consume? If that makes sense.

Like someone who eats 1200 calories could have less carbs than someone eating 1800 but still too many if most of their calories come from carbs?

atomic sagebrush

May 20th, 2017, 12:54 PM

Both, because the protein can help to slow down the quick high rise that a lot of carbs (even good carbs) can cause when eaten on their own and you HAVE to be sure you're getting enough fat because sometimes with PCO your body will use up too much fat making testosterone and there will not be enough left over for making progesterone, and additionally the people on the alt-diet for egg quality need that extra fat too to make good eggs, estrogen, and progesterone with.

It's darn hard to do PCOS diet, getting 50 g pro and fat, while doing 1200 cals, and not wasting away. VERY few people should be that low in cals.

EnglishDame

May 20th, 2017, 01:46 PM

Thanks Atomic, don't think I realised how important actually reaching the limits was since I seemed to be under them and thought that would be ok as long as I wasn't over. Might need to think of some additions to my daily diet.

atomic sagebrush

May 20th, 2017, 03:08 PM

98% of the reason I even HAVE limits is to make sure you guys are getting ENOUGH food, not too much. Please do some tallying up to be sure you're getting enough (especially given that you're on the Metformin!)

Pink rose

May 21st, 2017, 04:53 AM

I'm also needing to increase my fat & protein limits, I already do cheese on sandwiches & I sometimes have a yogurt. Any ideas of other things we may add in with our meals or recipies to increase it.

Yesterday I had coffee throughout the day.
Lunch was wholemeal toast with butter, apple , pear & grapes with a small serving of yogurt.
Dinner was white rice with curry sauce, I roasted lots of veg in the oven peppers, onions, carrots, parsnips, a few small potatoes and had some of this with the rice.
I also had a few glasses of prosecco.
Two cans of Diet Coke through out the day.

EnglishDame

May 21st, 2017, 01:20 PM

Pink Rose it sounds like you're doing great! I find if I eat a bit of chicken or turkey every day my protein limits are fine but my fat is lacking �� not sure how to increase just fat except for butter/oil? Either that or I take out the meat and try and increase protein and fat with the same things. I'll have a think and we can swap any ideas we come up with :)

atomic sagebrush

May 21st, 2017, 03:42 PM

Eggs, full fat dairy, small amounts of chicken and shellfish.

Nuts and legumes do have protein, but they are also pretty carby so some people may not be able to have them much

EnglishDame

May 21st, 2017, 05:01 PM

Ok so I've been playing about on mfp to get a menu for tomorrow.

My lunch will be soup with 3 slices of brown gluten free bread. (The gluten free loafs are smaller here not sure about in the US) with 2 coffees with a little full fat milk in.

My dinner will be 100g of chicken breast cooked with 2 tablespoons of vegetable oil, gravy carrots and a baked potato. Then a cup of grapes and a cup of strawberries. (Is that too much fruit? It said on mfp this food has a lot of vitamin c when I added the strawberries) I will also have 2 coffees again with a little milk. Then after dinner I'll have vodka with Diet Coke.

My macros come to 151g carbs, 53g fat, 60g protein. That's 1441 calories. Any thoughts please?

atomic sagebrush

May 22nd, 2017, 09:16 AM

The trouble with MFP is that it counts the miniscule and irrelevant amounts of fat and protein in fruit and veg (that I do not want you guys to count) so just be aware of that.

Will the coffee with dinner not keep you up at night?

NO that is not too much fruit, that is fine!

Mommy2apples

May 24th, 2017, 01:54 PM

Today's lunch was a whole milk yogurt and coconut smoothie mixed with a banana
Two black bean tacos on hard shell. Mixed with salsa, brown rice, sour cream, a little bit of mozzarella cheese and an apple. Was so yummy!

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EnglishDame

May 24th, 2017, 06:25 PM

I seem to be ok drinking coffee in the evening. I regularly stay up late so maybe that's why.
Great thanks, the fruit helps me stay on track it's like a treat :)

atomic sagebrush

May 25th, 2017, 08:56 AM

My husband can do that too!! I'm a morning person so if I have coffee late I literally do not sleep! :)

EnglishDame

May 26th, 2017, 09:13 AM

Has anyone thought about going vegetarian doing the pcos diet? Not sure how to do it I just feel like maybe for the last month of my sway I'd like to cut out meat. Is it really needed to keep protein levels up?

atomic sagebrush

May 26th, 2017, 12:56 PM

EnglishDame

May 27th, 2017, 09:15 AM

Ok thanks Atomic, I'll stick with the small amounts of chicken and fish.

Pink rose

May 31st, 2017, 07:40 PM

Hi ladies I've been away on holidays a few days, I did ok on the diet a few cheats but eaten with my meals.
I've still been eating the same foods but adding more cheese and full fat yogurt to up my fat & protein. I'm trying my best to cut out all white carbs and sugar but I found I'm loosing weight really quickly doing this even though I'm eating 1600 -1800 cals a day. I'm at 105 lbs I don't want to stop exercising because it's getting good results I'm just trying to maintain my weight.
What type of crackers or revita bread is everyone using I saw lots of different kinds & wasn't sure which one to get?

Frilly Lady

June 15th, 2017, 08:43 AM

Hi ladies hope you're all doing well.

Pink rose the crackers that I sometimes have are nairn's gluten free wholegrain crackers, they come in a few different flavours. The cracked black pepper are my favourite, especially dipped in humus.

I seem to be having three meals a day 2 to 3 times a week as I'm so hungry at about 4:30. I have my main meal about 7ish so I can last until 1 the next day when I get in from work.

I'm not going totally pcos version but I'm doing my best and trying not to beat myself up too much about it. I'm not snacking, keeping within limits, fibre, doing exercise 5-6 days a week and I've also managed to get hold of two months supply of clomid through a private doctors too!

Eating lots of salad with mayo in wholemeal pittas at the moment, sometimes with a couple of falafels and sour cream and salsa. Lunch being either sushi or toast with butter and a no sugar yogurt. I sometimes have a brunch bar too which I know I shouldn't, but having these little things means I'm not loosing too much weight.

Mommy2apples

June 15th, 2017, 08:47 AM

My weight has came to a stall, but I'm okay with that! We are ttc this month! Would be great if it does! :)

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hopper

June 26th, 2017, 09:33 AM

Hi ladies! I'm just changing over to the PCOS version of LE and finding it hard to wrap my head around after all the empty cal and carb heavy foods I was eating on the standard LE!
I'm doing the cardio 5x a week and hoping to ttc in Aug but now with my confusion I may hold off til Sept. I'm afraid to tho as I am already losing weight and I don't have a lot to play around with.
I'm having 3 meals a day. Fasting for around 14 hours before first meal. A sample day is like this:
B: coffee with sweetener and full fat milk. Grilled tomato, wholegrain toast with a little butter, possibly two grilled turkey bacon or scrambled egg whites. Full fat coconut or strawberry yoghurt and green grapes.
Then fast til dinner if I can.
D: white rice and grilled garlicky prawns or white potato, lots of veg like broccoli/carrots/peas and baked salmon or some kind of protein. Should I cut red meat and limit chicken making my main source of protein seafood?

Then after cardio I have another meal which is usually WG bread or a tortilla with cheese and veg toasted under the grill, yoghurt or dairy free ice cream (I love a coconut milk based ice cream - can I still have it if I only have a little and it's within limits?) If I'm craving something sweet and carby I will eat it now as I know I can still stay within limits. I have wine at this meal too to up my cals as I am trying to stick with eating 1800 cause I lose weight fast when I diet and with the cardio I've lost a lb a week for the last 3 weeks despite not really being "on diet".
I just want to get established on the diet and get my head around it so I can forget about it and not stress over doing it right!!

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atomic sagebrush

June 26th, 2017, 02:30 PM

hopper

June 27th, 2017, 09:38 AM

Do you have totals for the fat and protein in addition to the calories??

Seafood no more than 2x a week so use chicken or turkey the rest of the time (also eggs and dairy)

Ice cream is ok in small amounts since you are doing this for preemptive reasons and not full blown PCO

I would do whole eggs 4-6 days a week in addition or instead of the egg whites (unless you are already maxed out on fat)

Cals are not over 1800. Fat and protein are usually the max at 60g each. I was thinking that maybe I can cut down a little in the week or two before we attempt or is that a bad idea?
Noted re the eggs vs egg whites! Thank you Atomic!

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Pink rose

July 4th, 2017, 05:23 AM

Hi ladies I've been so busy this past few weeks I haven't had much of a chance to get on here. I hope everyone is doing well with their diets. I'm just doing my best but I feel it's never good enough I'm ttc this month and keep thinking I haven't done enough. Im going to try and be very strict this month no cheats and relax as much as possible.

My diet has been much the same lots of cheese salad sandwiches or wraps and fruit for lunch. Soups with wholemeal bread, rice with vegetables and sauce, wine, fiber and alcohol. I do add in a small treat most nights after dinner to keep me going.

I just wonder at times will there ever be a happy ever after to all this gd I just never seem to have a day with out feeling some thing is missing from my life. It makes it harder having no one to talk to except my dh I know he is good tries to under stand me but I'm sure he's sick listening to me.
Welcome to the group hopper and good luck with your sway!

EnglishDame

July 4th, 2017, 10:10 AM

Pink Rose I could've written that myself. Especially feeling like something is missing from my life.
We are trying this month too but i worry my diet hasn't been good enough. What's done is done though, we have 3 and a bit weeks till I expect to ovulate just trying my best this last few weeks and what will be will be!

Prayingforagirl67

November 8th, 2017, 08:40 PM

It may be too carby if you are on PCOS diet for PCO. I know it feels counterintuitive to what others are doing but if you are really a PCOSer you should NOT go fully veg because the higher carbs will mess with your PCOS and may inadvertently sway blue by raising blood sugar and testosterone.

Atomic, would this be the case with women who do not have confirmed PCOS, but are still in the PCOS LE diet for being on the heavier side?

atomic sagebrush

November 14th, 2017, 02:52 PM

I can't keep up with these long support threads, just happened to click on this, please simply start a new post in the forums and I will see that.

And YES it does.

atomic sagebrush

September 19th, 2018, 02:24 PM

Bump! I know lots of people are looking for LE PCOS support, let's use this already existing thread to share ideas!

Roma Rose

September 21st, 2018, 06:02 AM

Anyone else currently on the PCOS LE diet? I'm on my third week so still in the 'getting to grips with it' stage. It's been helpful to read back through this thread for meal ideas.

Shenanigans

October 11th, 2018, 11:31 AM

atomic sagebrush

October 12th, 2018, 01:58 PM

The overnight 12-16 hour fast IS a type of intermittent fasting.

I worry with fasting where you're not eating every day that ovulation will stop. I've just seen that happen too many times to people eating lower cals even just sometimes, to feel good about that for swaying. But if you can do it without stopping ovulation, then I do think it could help sway pink.

Shenanigans

October 12th, 2018, 04:37 PM

I actually need femara to ovulate anyway but dont think I can do much more than 20 hours for fasting. I have lost about 30 lbs over the last 6 or so months and have been mostly only eating in a 6-8 hour window for a few months now. I'm trying to cut out most meat now but it feels like I then cant eat anything but vegetables. No fruit, no carb, no meat, no eggs, no nuts. Augh! �� the PCOS diet has the best results for pink swaying though, correct? I will do whatever it takes. Can you tell me this though...which is the safer cheat? Meat or carbs/sugar?

atomic sagebrush

October 12th, 2018, 06:48 PM

110% better cheat is meat for PCOS Diet. If you do need a carb cheat, fruit and whole grains are good.

Can u clarify as to why you're not eating nuts, meat, eggs, fruit? You can have those things on PCOS diet.

Yes PCOS-type diet has gotten better results BUT we can't know if that is because the people who go onto it are coming in more "set" for pink or because it's easier to change the "settings" for those with PCOS. without side by side studies both across the population and with people who have PCOS I can't totally know if this is a legit finding or a quirk. We can tell, though, that it's certainly not a dealbreaker to do the alt. diet (which I know many worry about since it is more nutrient dense)

Shenanigans

October 13th, 2018, 05:12 PM

I guess I was just trying to throw everything at it since those are normally boy friendly. I guess pcos le is a whole different animal though. My last sway I ate so much beans and broccoli but Im thinking maybe it was too much carbs and protein? I need to just start with focusing on 50 or so grams of fat and protein a day and fill in a little brown rice or rye toast, hummus, etc to add some calories to make sure it's about 1200? Is lean chicken the best option for protein? Can I use butter and sour cream for fat? I started about 6 months ago at a little over 200 lb ( I have started every pregnancy between 190-200) and I am about 170 lb now. I have at least another 20 I can stand to lose so is mid November too early for a first attempt? I mostly have used intermittent fasting and kind of trim healthy mama diet to lose the weight. (Alternating low carb higher fat meals with low fat higher carb) I just started really working out every day, also. Inositol has also helped me and I have used it for months now.

atomic sagebrush

October 14th, 2018, 05:13 PM

For all we know, though, you had an ideal sway and then just fell into the 25% of opposites, you know??

But yeah you're right the PCOS diet is a different animal. Keep in mind that we started off with an assumption - not proven fact, but assumption - that foods that were nutrient dense invariably swayed blue. Over time that has not proven true (and in fact some of the peopel who were the most restrictive got boys, not girls!) so now we allow a lot more leeway in the "forbidden food" dept. The fortified foods like cereals, vitamin drinks, etc really do seem to sway blue but normal food just doesn't seem to sway as long as u stick in the limits. And with the PCO tendencies, we've found it best to up the protein and fat intake and keep in the limits, cutting carbs by default. So you have some room for meat, eggs, nuts, etc. Not a lot of room, but some. and it's going to be WAY better for your sway than lots of carbs because of the blood sugar thing. The inositol has gotten good results too.

I think you're 100% on the right track and I don't think November is too early. November is when I got my girl and I think it's our lucky month! :heart:

atomic sagebrush

October 14th, 2018, 05:13 PM

Oh and yes that's exactly right - hit the limits and then fill in around that with carbs, then the low carb veggies you add on top of that as filler since they're free and unllimited!

Shenanigans

October 15th, 2018, 02:09 PM

Sorry to have hijacked this thread it seems. Does anyone have ideas for small meals you can take with you in a couple ziplocks, etc? I am out of the house often on the weekends so need to plan ahead to avoid temptation. I was considering the small containers of peanut butter and maybe a baggie of baby carrots and sliced apple. Maybe some triscuits also.

Shenanigans

October 15th, 2018, 11:16 PM

One more thing. Is alcohol ok for PCOS diet also?

dreamofdaughter

October 17th, 2018, 05:59 PM

Browsing this thread - What is inositol? Is it a sway tactic and, if so, how does one use it?

atomic sagebrush

October 17th, 2018, 07:23 PM

can you bump this for me???

Yes alcohol is ok but I want to post the explanation and give some ideas for snacks on the go but out of time now

Shenanigans

October 17th, 2018, 08:30 PM

Bump! Thanks. :)

kittendreams

October 17th, 2018, 09:56 PM

I'm watching this thread to get some ideas if we sway again next year.
I've had two opposites on Le diet so I think I need to try something different. Good luck ladies xx

atomic sagebrush

November 5th, 2018, 07:03 PM

One more thing. Is alcohol ok for PCOS diet also?

Augh so sorry I opened this up again to post and had to close wihtout replying.

I want to explain why it is that alcohol is ok on the PCOS LE Diet when it's not on any other type of PCOS Diet.

If you're eating a diet that is already bad for PCOS (super carby, sugary, etc) and then you throw alcohol on top of that (not to mention not exercising, carrying extra weight) that is extra bad for PCOS. BUT what we are doing on LE Diet is NOT that. We are cutting carbs all together, getting our carbs from healthy sources, losing some weight overall, hopefully exercising, and eating in patterns that are better for blood sugar overall. So we can add in the alcohol without messing up our PCO (most of the time. occasionally someone wiht severe PCOS will have to drop alcohol) because we've made so many positive changes to correct the PCO tendencies.

atomic sagebrush

November 5th, 2018, 07:35 PM

Cheese sticks, whole grain crackers, cherry tomatoes (I have never eaten as many cherry tomatoes as I did when I was swaying LOL)

They have these kind of "gogurt" tubes that are made of greek yogurt now that are great.

I know a lot of you guys try to avoid meat but there is not much going on in a couple slices of lunch meat and it's really handy to take a roll or two of deli turkey in a baggie.

They also have some pretty yum snacks now that are made of things like dried peas and chickpeas. I ate TONS of wasabi peas when I was swaying. They've got a little protein in them and they're spicy so you eat them slow.

Maureenhdez

December 2nd, 2018, 10:15 AM

Does anyone know if the LE diet or the LE PCOS diet has had more success getting a girl? I am currently on the LE diet, but have been getting bloated and not feeling so great on it. So I was thinking of maybe combining the two diets. (I am also gluten free and it can be quite difficult to find whole grain foods that are gluten free). But I thought if I could at least add in a few of the PCOS foods, maybe it will help me feel a little better.

Ive also seen people on here say that they had a failed sway on the LE diet, so they are switching to the PCOS version. This made me think that the PCOS version had more success?

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atomic sagebrush

December 3rd, 2018, 02:23 PM

We don't know for sure because if people are doing the standard LE Diet when they should be doing the PCOS-type diet, that may make them more likely to conceive boys, but this doesn't necessarily translate to those who don't need the PCOS-type diet, if that makes sense.

We have gotten great results with PCOS-type diet BUT the catch is - it's harder to stick to, it is way more expensive, and it will make people lose tons of weight if they don't need to be on it. I would definitely experiment with having everyone try that diet, but those things keep me from doing so.

But you can absolutely use some of the foods - although can you tell me what you think "PCOS foods" even are?

Yes gluten free can be a challenge to combine with the PCOS-type diet, because many gluten free foods are fairly high carb.

Maureenhdez

December 3rd, 2018, 11:28 PM

I have never been told that I have PCOS; but I have had 3 times in the past 2 years where I may have had cysts on my ovaries. Once it was confirmed, the other two times I had the same symptoms (ovary pain, nausea, bloating) and just figured it was a cyst and waited it out. Not sure if that would even be enough to be considered PCOS though.

I only weigh 100 pounds, I’ve always been petite and have lost 11 pounds on the LE diet since starting it in August (I was 110 when I started, now I keep going back and forth between 99-101 pounds). So I certainly can’t lose any more weight.

I figured PCOS foods were more veggies and multi grain or whole wheat breads. Is this correct? To my amazement I was able to find a gluten free whole grain bread the other day, so I picked that up. But non white flour gluten free items are hard to come by.

atomic sagebrush

December 4th, 2018, 02:46 PM

Ovarian cysts aren't neccessarily PCOS cysts though. PCOS cysts have a certain appearance and manifestation and many people get cysts that aren't PCOS related.

Yes I thought I remembered you were having a hard time keeping weight on. It's fine for you to switch to whole grains - but do be aware we've had good results on gluten free diets too. VEgetables are free and unlimited on every version of LE Diet so please feel free to eat those.

Maureenhdez

December 4th, 2018, 05:45 PM

Thank you! That’s good to know. I just thought PCOS would be a reoccurrence if cysts. I was starting to get concerned. Thank you for clarifying[emoji4]

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atomic sagebrush

December 7th, 2018, 02:22 PM

Thank you! That’s good to know. I just thought PCOS would be a reoccurrence if cysts. I was starting to get concerned. Thank you for clarifying[emoji4]

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Nope, there are several types and most of them aren't PCOS-related.

Lauralau09

March 25th, 2019, 06:39 AM

Hiya

I just have a couple of questions - I know sugar isn't the best for PCOS, are there any specific treats that are ok? I have such a sweet tooth and I know I'll struggle without a couple of 'better choice' backups!

Also, does it affect your sway if you need to do the diet long term, i.e. a year or more? I struggled with ovulation before becoming pregnant this time so just in case I have the same problem again..

Thank you!

atomic sagebrush

March 25th, 2019, 02:54 PM

While we have had some concerns that people may eventually get "used" to the diet and it might not sway as hard, it will STILL sway pink, it just may have a little less "oomph" than it did - and this is entirely hypothetical anyway. Our results have shown that anything longer than 12 weeks on diet (even 6/9/12 months still gets good results)

When you have a sweet tooth try to keep in mind this isn't an all or nothing diet. If you eat something sweet now and then, but are overall eating much less sugar and carbs than you were, it's all good. What I would do is focus on mostly whole grains and fruits and nuts/PB (which are great for quelling cravings) then when yo're really craving something, think about what it is you really want and HAVE IT. Don't try to placate yourself eating an apple and a bunch of nuts and some crackers and then realize you've just eaten 1000 cals of nothing and decide "oh screw it"...then you eat the thing you want plus 100 other things besides.

lovemyboy01

March 26th, 2019, 03:07 PM

Thanks for that atomic, a way to keep me sane!

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Lauralau09

April 10th, 2019, 01:36 PM

What is quorn like for this diet?

Thanks Atomic! Great advice as always

atomic sagebrush

April 10th, 2019, 02:29 PM

What is quorn like for this diet?

Thanks Atomic! Great advice as always

It's ok but does have a fair amount of carbs in it. So you may want to focus more on getting protein from dairy, eggs, even a bit of meat now and then because depending on the severity of your PCOS quorn may be somewhat too carby for every day.

Lauralau09

April 15th, 2019, 10:08 AM

Thanks Atomic, I will avoid then I think seeing as I don't like it much anyway

One more question, how many mg should the fibre supplement be? I've tried looking for this info on another thread and couldn't find anything but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm asking you a question you've answered a thousand times! I can find a lot of 500mg psyillium husk supplements, would this be a good choice?

Thank you!
Laura

atomic sagebrush

April 15th, 2019, 12:39 PM

Different types of fiber come in different measurements and so I can't give a standard recommendation.

That is fine, just take one with any meal tht has fat in it.

kittendreams

May 17th, 2019, 08:11 PM

Hi Atomic I’m starting to play around with the pcos diet due to two opposites on le diet.
This is today’s food prediction how is it looking to you? I normally wouldn’t have pork but family are coming over tonight. No rush to get back to me I’ve got months before I sway.
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atomic sagebrush

May 20th, 2019, 01:22 PM

agh I'm sorry I can't see these, can you repost them in larger size?

Nessa84

October 20th, 2019, 11:24 PM

Bump!
This is a great thread. Maybe we can update it with current PCOS meal ideas!

MsDashwood

October 22nd, 2019, 12:02 PM

Yes please! I’d be super keen for easy lunch ideas that aren’t boring or salad ... and easy bulk family meals. I’ve got hungry boys and work massive shifts. I’ll post some as I come across some - I’m not trying yet but will be next year.

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MsDashwood

October 22nd, 2019, 12:13 PM

Has anyone added intermittent fasting to their LE pcos diet? After much deliberation with going HT I think we are going to just try to sway once more. I am desperately needing meal ideas though. One thing I did eat myself when we conceived the girl we lost at 14 weeks is a veggie chili with lots of beans and veggies and topped with some parmesan. I'm thinking I may make enough to eat on for a week and have easy microwavable meals all week.

I am so very sorry to hear about your loss.

I know this is a late reply, but I started intermittent fasting recently and enjoy that lifestyle. I plan to continue when I sway and use it as a positive. If you see this, I’d love to hear your experience of fasting while swaying as I can’t find many others who are doing it also (well ... actually no one).

In terms of lunch meals, I was going to make a bulk ratatouille for work days and sprinkle it with Parmesan. There’s also something delicious about tomato and cheese on crackers (good and whole grain ones of course) with lots of cracked black pepper and salt.

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Thirdtimelucky01

October 22nd, 2019, 03:41 PM

I am so very sorry to hear about your loss.

I know this is a late reply, but I started intermittent fasting recently and enjoy that lifestyle. I plan to continue when I sway and use it as a positive. If you see this, I’d love to hear your experience of fasting while swaying as I can’t find many others who are doing it also (well ... actually no one).

In terms of lunch meals, I was going to make a bulk ratatouille for work days and sprinkle it with Parmesan. There’s also something delicious about tomato and cheese on crackers (good and whole grain ones of course) with lots of cracked black pepper and salt.

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I’ve been doing intermittent fasting for years! I feel really good on this type of eating, I’m not bloated in the evening and I keep my weight within the same range easily. My eating window is usually 8-9 hours. I must say that I got my two boys on it! But I never watched WHAT I eat bank then, just WHEN. This time I will do intermittent fasting plus watching protein, fat and calories. I did recently stop snacking (really hard for me!), cereal (was my staple breakfast) and juices (I did a lot!), limited red meat (really hard!) and added coffee (never had before).

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atomic sagebrush

October 23rd, 2019, 12:22 PM

Bump!
This is a great thread. Maybe we can update it with current PCOS meal ideas!

Yes please do - I love to keep the old threads going rather than starting new ones, makes it easier for people to read a few threads than many. Please share everyone!

MsDashwood

October 30th, 2019, 07:02 AM

I’ve been doing intermittent fasting for years! I feel really good on this type of eating, I’m not bloated in the evening and I keep my weight within the same range easily. My eating window is usually 8-9 hours. I must say that I got my two boys on it! But I never watched WHAT I eat bank then, just WHEN. This time I will do intermittent fasting plus watching protein, fat and calories. I did recently stop snacking (really hard for me!), cereal (was my staple breakfast) and juices (I did a lot!), limited red meat (really hard!) and added coffee (never had before).

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Oh wow - interesting you got your two boys from it. Isn’t it a great way of eating - I have been odd it for a week as I’ve been overseas and I just feel bloated.

Maybe fasting isn’t overall pink friendly due to your boys, but then again your foods sound boyish. Who doesn’t love snacking outside their fasting window!!

I’d be so keen to continue to see how you go and any recipe ideas. The low protein is hard for me. Not because I eat a lot of meat, but I work 12-13 hour days so I use our slow cooker A LOT! Eg. Beef stew with fresh steamed greens for the family is so easy. I won’t have the time to do separate meals, so I’ve basically got to learn some great diet friendly low protein meals that I can geed the family a few nights a week on rotation. We aren’t trying until April next year, but I want to start the meal ideas now otherwise I’ll continue to be the boy friendly personality and over plan everything. If I get a few meals in my ideas bank on rotation I won’t even think about the diet at dinner and planning for the busy week.

So far, two meals I’ve enjoyed were a tofu saag curry in the slow cooker and also cauliflower parmigiana. Delicious!

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atomic sagebrush

October 30th, 2019, 12:31 PM

Fasting is not a guarantee. With any sway tactic there are always a zillion people who don't seem to fit the mould, it's because there are so many factors that come into a baby's gender that we can never just look at one thing in combintion. I do think it helps though both because it seems to suppress fertility just a bit and also because it makes you burn off your stores of fat as fuel for part of the day, which has appeared to sway pink as well! :)

Thirdtimelucky01

October 31st, 2019, 01:22 AM

MsDashwood

October 31st, 2019, 05:49 AM

Cauliflower parmigiana yummm! I tend to eat 3 meals a day (as I have my dinner at 5pm) so I cook regular dinner with lots of meat for the family but eat my salad/soup/wrap earlier plus fruits so that I’m not tempted by what they eat! I did a fair few pink things with my DS2 (I didn’t know about swaying though) as I was intermittent fasting, took fiber, had one attempt and was at my lowest adult weight ever (BMI 19) and was massively sleep deprived with a 1 year old and I still conceived a boy! I guess the only things I can change are 1) cardio every day (I hate cardio!) and 2) LE diet with minimum red meat, no snacking, no juices and no cereal and no vitamins. I’m again at BMI 19, exercise every day. Started to drink coffee. Is there anything else you can think of?

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Atomic will reply most likely on your specific questions.

Your sway sounds good and what I am going to focus on with no red meat and exercise. The cardio is going to be hard for me. Mostly because whenever I’ve gone through gym stages I’ve never lost weight - my body just doesn’t lose weight from exercise. I’ve learnt now just to do minimum for health reasons and find it SO hard to get motivated for more. However, something that’s helped me that may help you is downloading an addictive tv show on iPad/tablet and watching it on an exercise bike, elliptical trainer etc. Keeps me fully entertained for an hour! And I look forward to it as I want to see the next episode.

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Thirdtimelucky01

October 31st, 2019, 07:55 AM

Atomic will reply most likely on your specific questions.

Your sway sounds good and what I am going to focus on with no red meat and exercise. The cardio is going to be hard for me. Mostly because whenever I’ve gone through gym stages I’ve never lost weight - my body just doesn’t lose weight from exercise. I’ve learnt now just to do minimum for health reasons and find it SO hard to get motivated for more. However, something that’s helped me that may help you is downloading an addictive tv show on iPad/tablet and watching it on an exercise bike, elliptical trainer etc. Keeps me fully entertained for an hour! And I look forward to it as I want to see the next episode.

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I feel like I’ve been through all the point with Atomic already, just talking out loud. Great idea re tv show, I’m watching Killing Eve now, I’ll do it on the bike! How many kids do you have?

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atomic sagebrush

October 31st, 2019, 01:33 PM

Cauliflower parmigiana yummm! I tend to eat 3 meals a day (as I have my dinner at 5pm) so I cook regular dinner with lots of meat for the family but eat my salad/soup/wrap earlier plus fruits so that I’m not tempted by what they eat! I did a fair few pink things with my DS2 (I didn’t know about swaying though) as I was intermittent fasting, took fiber, had one attempt and was at my lowest adult weight ever (BMI 19) and was massively sleep deprived with a 1 year old and I still conceived a boy! I guess the only things I can change are 1) cardio every day (I hate cardio!) and 2) LE diet with minimum red meat, no snacking, no juices and no cereal and no vitamins. I’m again at BMI 19, exercise every day. Started to drink coffee. Is there anything else you can think of?

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Remember though, swaying is not like other things you do in this world - you can do everything "right" and then still get an opposite (because the entire human race would have died out a long time ago if diet and lifestyle could 100% of the time yield a particular gender) Sometimes all you need to do is exactly what you did before and then luck is on your side that next time through. I feel like many times we get too focused in on things we must change that we lose sight of just doing what has worked for most people most of the time!! Good luck and pink dust!

MsDashwood

December 10th, 2019, 02:03 AM

atomic sagebrush

December 10th, 2019, 03:47 PM

What App is everyone using to track the fat/protein for PCOS LE diet? I have My Fitness Pal premium but it counts all carbs in veg and disappointingly doesn’t allow you to set fat and protein amounts without changing your overall daily goal. Eg when I put in I want my protein to be 50g it changes my goal of daily calories to 1,100. Would love suggestions

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I used a paper and pen and it worked really well. You guys don't have to use apps, I think it's easiest with the LE Diet stuff since we follow our unique rules to do it old school.

MsDashwood

December 11th, 2019, 07:41 AM

Here is a lunch recipe I’m going to use. I’ve been stressing so much about the diet side of things. Not because my diet is boy friendly at all (I don’t enjoy protein and I do intermittent fasting). It’s more that I work 12+ hour days and I work in emergency services so my days can just go to crap without rhyme or reason. I get home from work sometimes and don’t have the mental or physical strength to do anything. We eat healthy - but it’s not girl friendly. Eg lots of slow cooker meals I can put on before a shift, or lean protein filled salads. And this is organised a week and a half in advance to ensure we’ve got all the groceries so I’m not caught short after a bad day.

SO i’ve decided that the best way to NOT freak out about meals is to have 3 x lunch recipes I’ll rotate and 18 x dinner recipes I’ll rotate. This will keep the family happy with variety and I can still plan without going all boy mum. All my selected recipes will be plan ahead friendly.

I omit the eggs or just add one. I serve with a corn salsa and Greek yogurt. I also omit onion and garlic (leek instead) and use girl friendly oil. No need for any particular cheese either. Plain old cheddar works.

As I keep getting my meal rotations together I’ll share here in a big lot - I hope they help some of you!

https://detoxinista.com/mexican-cauliflower-rice-casserole/

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MsDashwood

March 21st, 2020, 07:40 AM

Bump!
This is a great thread. Maybe we can update it with current PCOS meal ideas!

Yes!!! I’d love to see some ideas.

For lunches I’m going to rotate through three meals that I can prep on the weekend. I’m swaying pink so trying to get organised now so I dont get too involved when it’s time to sway.

If this helps anyone I’ve found these are good meal prepping options so far when I count the protein and fat for swaying pink on the LE PCOS diet. Recipes can be changed and researched based on personal preference.

Vegetable ratatouille baked with lots of haloumi

Mushroom stroganoff (no meat) - sour cream added to fit within limits

Mexican cauliflower casserole served with Greek yoghurt and salsa

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Drunken Cockatoo

April 13th, 2020, 09:37 AM

Ladies, please help, what do we think about rice flour included in the PCOS LE diet? Here in Germany I found a rice flour tortilla wrap made of rice flour (I suppose white rice :( ) and water, vegetable margerine, a little salt and psyllium/fiber (239 calories). The brand is called SCHÄR. I filled it with many cherry tomatoes, lettuce and cucumber and one spoon of mayonnaise and a sprinkle of cheese and baked it for lunch these past few days. Was very filling and helped me stay in the limits of the diet these past two weeks. Also is it okay to eat the same on many days? I am not that creative with diet meals and I found a three meal version that is doable for me and within the limits of the diet.