March 2ww

[LacePrincess]

Junie, I totally identify with the 'just get preggo already' feeling. I get it every time we TTC, which probably explains all my boys since I end up just frantically doing EVERYTHING to get preggo and sway blue everytime. Bleh.

Though last time with DS3 we were using lots of blue friendly supps like EPO and Bvits too. Plus bd'ing everyday from +OPK through O+1, LOL.

[maidentomother]

Taytum, I don't think you have PCOS based on those scans. Sounds like the dr just saw normal corpus luteum cysts.

XX, it's possible you Oed on Sunday but I think most likely you haven't Oed yet.

Junie, I hope you O soon! I know well how frustrating it is to wait close to 3 weeks for O. Re: my temps, unfortunately from 1DPO onwards they are completely unreliable and basically invented. Here are my true temps/conditions:

CD19/1DPO: Woke up several hours earlier than usual after 1/3 of my normal amount of sleep to freezing cold house bc heating oil ran out. Temped and got 98.06, but thought I saw a tiny air bubble/didn't want to believe it was so low so retemped after vigorously beating down my thermometer, new temp 98.22. If I enter a temp below 98.18, Advanced removes my CHs. So I switched to Research mode and put in an average of the 2 temps.

2DPO: Woke up sweaty & hot, temp of 100.58. It quickly became apparent that I was seriously ill and feverish.

3DPO: Woke up after 4-5 hours sleep bc of awful chills, temp was 99.7 (and went into the 100s soon after), felt even more ill, like KILL ME PLS. Voice completely gone.

4DPO: Couldn't sleep at all the night before, too much discomfort, and tossed and turned constantly though I was lying in bed for 4-5 hours before temping. Temp of 102.2!

Then I went to the dr, who told me I have a combo virus/bacteria thing going around, and he does think the bacteria is strep. I was prescribed not quite as effective but pregnancy safe Amoxicillin and started it immediately!

5DPO (today): Woke up rather early after 5-6 hours sleep, temp was 99.5. I feel less feverish but that's still a very high temp for me and my throat, by far my worst symptom, isn't any better yet at all. :( I just took my 3rd pill, hopefully I will see major improvement soon. Plus I get more heating oil today so that will renormalize my external temping conditions.

So even though I should technically discard my temps from 2-5DPO I just can't bear to lose my CHs and see a big gaping hole in my chart.

[smarston3]

Oh maiden, how frustrating. Especially since this is your last month TTC for a bit. Glad to hear you got some medicine and should be on the mend soon.

We had our attempt last night. Had a glass of wine, DH had a hot shower and I J&D. I think I'm going to get a +OPK today. So, we'll take everyone's advise and BD again Thursday or Friday in case of late ovulation. Frustrating that I don't know what a true positive is.

My measurements were
18,29,24,21,21

Lace, hope you enjoyed your cheat day!


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[sageviolet]

Thanks, Lace! Any advice on how to get lots of ewcm? I haven't had ANY ewcm since before dd. ...although maybe if I start checking my cervix I'll find some. Good job convincing me I need to do that, lol!

Taytum, that's exactly how mine is, (TMI warning) no more gobs in my underwear, just a wet lube if I stick a finger in at the edge of the canal as Lace says, haven't tried up to the cervix yet.

Maiden, glad to hear you're on the mend! I hear you on the hole in the chart. I had to stop while we traveled over the holidays and it still drives me nuts when I try to go back and compare charts.

Good luck, smarston and Junie!

Another fact I read yesterday was that if your cortisol levels are low, your body will take progesterone to make cortisol/cortisone, so that can relate to low progesterone levels. Has anyone else heard of that?

[LacePrincess]

maiden - boo on the sick week! Hope the meds kick in fast. A cold house certainly can't be making you feel any better either!

smarston - wow those are some big follies! I'm shocked they haven't ovulated yet. GL tonight, it is really frustrating not to get a +OPK but then OPK's don't work for everyone either. Hope tonight is it!

sage - honestly, nothing I tried ever made a HUGE difference. Being well hydrated, especially green tea, helps. Robitussin is supposed to but to be honest I never noticed a big difference. You can try it though. It's just one of those things that goes with age and I don't know if there's anything that can bring back what you had in your early 20's outside of meds. This last cycle for me was very weird with SO much EWCM, which I hadn't had in over a decade, and it's probably due to all those FET meds I was on in Jan. I'll have to see what happens this cycle, but my usual norm is only EWCM on the day before O and even then I only get any in my undies for a few hours.

I've never heard of that cortisol theory, it sounds interesting! Not a factor for me I'd think. Cortisol is a stress hormone so I've always had too much, lol, so definitely not lacking in cortisol. And I suspect that I've had low prog issues in the past. For me though it makes more sense that it's a weak or immature O from my PCO tendency that leads to a weaker corpus luteum that means a lower prog level.

[LacePrincess]

Oh and we had an awesome cheat meal evening.

First we started with poutine for appetizer while we reheated up the pizza, which had sweet chili thai sauce with bbq steak, sundried tomatoes, and mushrooms. Then we had some pizza with breaded hot sauced wings.

Then we had our sushi. And we watched Air Force One during dinner.

Then I felt a bit guilty so walked the dog for an hour, LOL. When I came back, had a bowl of cereal (omg I've been craving cereal for SO LONG and haven't had a bowl for almost two months!!!) followed by mousse cake. Ahhhhhh.

Still have leftover sushi, lol. I'm going to have a bit of that today since it's okay for pink sway, just the soy makes me retain water.

[maudster]

They have blue ones….I checked yesterday! Thank goodness!! Good luck everyone. I am still waiting on my period….The vitex has messed up my cycles I think.

[maidentomother]

smarston, so happy you attempted! I am curious to see if you get a true positive. I definitely think you should attempt again in 3-4 days to cover your bases. Based on those follies, I think it's possible only 1-2 will pop and the 18/21/21 follies won't actually O. Alternatively, all of tyem could pop but only the 24 & 21s could be viable, the other 2 being too mature & immature, respectively. There are many potential scenarios that could play out but I think it's VERY unlikely you'd end up with quads or more.

Oh, and I do have ONE more cycle before my break. :)

sage, thanks! I was even able to eat and semi enjoy 2 large donut hole type things just now. Hopefully my 3 days of mostly juice/soup/hard candy (ok, I also had a moderate serving of vegan ravioli+tomato sauce Sunday, and 2 cookies + 2 donut thingies yesterday) is ok for my girl sway. But I have been 'snacking' in the sense of constantly sucking on candy/drinking juice. :/

I have had CRAZY amounts of EWCM for weeks and weeks this cycle and last. No clue why. It's like I'm in my 20s again. But I will say that for me, eating a high fat diet (60% fat by cals, most from saturated & a little monounsaturated fat), drinking Iots of water (like 6 liters a day) and exercising geberate even more EWCM. I think the exercise helps via raising testosterone levels, which gets partially converted to estrogen.

I have never heard of the cortisol/P connection but all sex hormones share a similar steroid backbone so it could be possible.

Lace, thanks, heating oil man just came early! Yaaaaaay!

maudster, Vitex will do that. Part of how it works. Though the diet can affect your cycle too. Glad you got the right strips!

[LacePrincess]

They have blue ones….I checked yesterday! Thank goodness!! Good luck everyone. I am still waiting on my period….The vitex has messed up my cycles I think.

Yeah Vitex messed my cycles up totally too. It definitely doesn't work for everyone.

maiden, yay on the heating oil!

[eleena2014]

just jumping in. i should have a +opk on sunday so was thinking this time of bd tomorrow and sunday.then maybe again the thursday after in case i ovulate later then expected

[XXforhubby]

Sorry if I miss anyone, I'm needing to take a bit of a break. I do read though!

Maiden- I hope the antibiotic works soon! I hope this cycle brings your BFP, but I am glad to know we can be cycle buddies one more time!

Lace- I am so glad you enjoyed your cheat meal!

AFM, looking at my chart would you say O day is CD9 or CD10? I never got a positive opk this cycle, and I hope that isn't a bad thing. I've always get a positive.

Thanks ladies!


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[LacePrincess]

Sorry if I miss anyone, I'm needing to take a bit of a break. I do read though!

Maiden- I hope the antibiotic works soon! I hope this cycle brings your BFP, but I am glad to know we can be cycle buddies one more time!

Lace- I am so glad you enjoyed your cheat meal!

AFM, looking at my chart would you say O day is CD9 or CD10? I never got a positive opk this cycle, and I hope that isn't a bad thing. I've always get a positive.

Thanks ladies!


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IMO neither. Potentially CD11 or even CD12 depending on how your temps do based on your CM. What you can try is plugging in a few more days of temps and see what FF gives you. The dotted lines means FF isn't sure anyways. Just don't forget to delete your hypothetical temps!

[djmommy]

XX I agree with Lace. Do you think maybe you could have missed your surge?

Lace your cheat day is making me hungry and I live Sushi!! And pizza..and wings.,...lol

[Hbuhs]

Hi there everyone! I'm presently in my 2ww. I'm quite new to the forums as well. It was my first month ttc swaying pink. I just came of birth control and also took Femera for ovulation. I did many other sway tactics, not sure how it will turn out but I pray that we conceived a girl!! I'm on CD18, now its just the good old waiting game.
Atomic has been such a great help! I'm so thankful I purchase the individualized sway plan!!!

[maidentomother]

XX, I absolutely think you Oed on CD12! Beautiful spike. :) And your CM changes the next day. Plus it's your biggest spike. FF looooves to assign O way too early. Especially this past week, I've seen more wrong O dates than correct ones on FF! You couldn't be sick/feverish? What day gave you your darkest OPK? Are you using a new/different batch of OPKs?

Hbuhs, welcome! How many DPO are you?

[XXforhubby]

Thank you ladies! I am not sick- I just get ridiculously high temps in my LP! That is why I have hope that my high FSH has come down to a normal level. My temps were never that high prior to starting acupuncture! Hopefully it is working! I'll wait and see what happens in a couple of days. I do feel I have Oed yesterday, because my CM has dried up quite a bit to barely watery, more like creamy.

Welcome Hbuhs! FX you caught the egg!!


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[Hbuhs]

Thanks XX and Maiden!
I am 4DPO.

[maidentomother]

WTF. Looks like I'm out - ALREADY. I'm having AF cramps and moderate to heavy spotting - I had a couple full on gushes. Old brown blood. FYI, I have been pregnant 6 times, and I have never had any spotting or cramping while pregnant (or not until I was actively miscarrying in the case of my last pregnancy). But I'm only 5DPO. :( I guess it's just another super short LP cycle. Or maybe my virus/strep affected something? I don't see how though...maybe my fever was so high it killed the embryo? I only checked it once a day first thing in the am...and from how bad I felt I bet it got a lot higher than 103. :/

XX, I didn't THINK you were sick, just wanted to rule it out since you normally get positive OPKs.

[LacePrincess]

oh BOO maiden, really?!? Maybe your temps from being sick are misidentifying O?

I've had LP's as short as 6 days after real wonky cycles though. And never had O or implantation spotting either.

[Junie]

Maiden- I hope it is a weird fluke and you aren't out!

Lace- Your cheat day sounds fantastic!!

XX- I think it is possible you didn't O until CD12

[XXforhubby]

Maiden- oh no! I'm so sorry [emoji20]! I'm hoping and praying it won't turn into a full on AF. I wonder if your fever had something to do with it. It just doesn't seem fair!
I have no idea why I didn't get positive opks. The only thing I can think of is my urine looked lighter than usual, but not too dilute. I also could have missed my surge since I only used FMU. I typically don't get a positive later in the day, but who knows!

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[smarston3]

Oh maiden, say it isn't so. [emoji20]

I'm stressing about these OPK's. I don't know why because there's nothing I can do about it now except have another attempt on Friday. What do you think 24140



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[maidentomother]

I've had multiple 6 day LPs over the years (though not under 8 days since 2011). My LP is also super sensitive to meds/supps. I went through a period of time on various things (spironolactone, then accutane, then antibiotics the last time I was sick with strep throat and it went untreated for weeks, even infecting my heart causing a heart murmur so I was on ABX for over a month) anyway during this 1.5 year period my LPs were 2-6 days long! This was back in 2008. So unfortunately, it could totally be AF. The cramps/spotting SEEM to be easing up but we'll see.

But if it's not AF, what is it? Too early for IB not that I think I'd ever have that anyway. I feel very confident that I did O on CD18, or maaaybe early CD19. DF has been the mega asshat from hell since last night (he is one of those people who can't discuss, only argue, and rapidly escalates to raised voice/shouting...at least when interacting with me) so no way can I BD anyway, I would strsngle him 'accidentally'. Also, I have never had midcycle spotting. Not even a tiny dot in 14 years of charting & 20.5 years of cycles. I HAVE had spotting start around 4 days before AF on occasion but I don't think it's ever been this heavy. My pre AF spotting is usually very light.

It's always possible I released 2 eggs...maybe one didn't take/overcooked, maybe one that released a few days before my CD18 egg (that happens sometimes, and usually my temp doesn't rise until I've released the 2nd egg)? That would be the best case scenario I guess.

Or maybe my body/God really hates DF and doesn't want me to have his babies. Maybe I should just rent a hotel room for a few weeks in Cologne (biggest city an hour away) and troll for men as much as possible.

But at least I'm WARM! :)

[maidentomother]

smarston, close but not positive.


I spoke too soon regarding my cramps, seems they are getting stronger now. I should also mention I have had particularly strong/painful/frequent pain low on my right side, I assumed they were my normal 'ovary twinges' from corpus luteum activity or maybe even a cyst, asi get those twinges most months. But maybe it's an ectopic again thus the early bleeding? But even an EP wouldn't implant at 5DPO....and I didn't have bleeding with my prior EP, or ovary twinges.

I just want to know WHY. :(

[smarston3]

Oh maiden, what a cluster! So sorry you are dealing with all of this at the same time..kinda agreeing about maybe you need to meet someone else.
How was the doctor telling me that I missed my window for a girl when I still don't have a positive OPK!? Guess I'll take another tomorrow and if it is positive, we'll BD on Thursday. If it's not, we'll wait till Friday I guess.


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[maidentomother]

Since he believes in Shettles I wouldn't be surprised by anything. I would second guess every word out of his mouth!

[sc1411]

Maiden, I'm really sorry you are going through this.
Let's hope that maybe it is just "unused egg" like you are saying.

[maidentomother]

It can't just be an unused egg, those don't bleed. :(

[tm29]

Maiden - I really hope you solve your mystery soon.

I'm learning a huge amount from you while you think things through. I didn't know about short LP's. Wow. I think that could be what happened to me last cycle. I had a miscarriage and - long story short - 2 erpc's and a hysteroscopy later, I was scanned and told I would probably ovulate in about 5 days. I got a +opk 3 days later, DTD at lot (we're swaying blue) and then had spotting 10DPO.

But BFN.

What's that all about? I too have a mystery on my hands. No AF either. I'm going to the dr tomorrow so hopefully thy'll have some idea. Maybe it was what you're talking about - a super short LP with a very very light aF. Bit of a cruel joke that it arrived right when you'd expect IB, which I did get last time.

[maidentomother]

Well, red flow has started so just a very short LP. Unfortunately, now I don't even have a chance of getting clomid/femara for this cycle bc AF arrived so early and my appt is a whole week away. I will try to call them in the morning though just in case they will consider trying to see me sooner. Bc missing that opportunity when this new cycle, #9 TTC, willl be my last cycle trying for a while, would really be the crappy icing on the craptastic cake that this cycle has been. And I was SO secretly hopeful bc I'm pretty sure I Oed from the left (though possibly from the right as well), and I haven't had that happen since TTCing, and I Oed from the left last time I conceived.

tm29, maybe I'm too tired/sick, but I don't quite understand your situation. Do you have charts I could look at it? I'm much better with those. I hope I can help solve your mystery.

[smarston3]

Maiden please call! Maybe your appt next week can be your ultrasound.

And all my follies are on the right [emoji20]


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[LacePrincess]

Boo and double boo maiden. :( I'm sorry. Sometimes things just go to sh!t with no good explanation, but it sure does suck!!!

Smarston, I agree sooooooo close but not quite......should be soon!

[XXforhubby]

Maiden- I am hoping and praying that they can get you in sooner. I can't entertain the idea they won't! That would be too cruel! Something good has got to come from all this!

Smarston- soon! So close!


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[XXforhubby]

I'm pretty sure I Oed yesterday. I've had barely any CM today. We will see. One more cycle (cycle 10) actively trying then moving on to not using protection/not preventing. I will continue to temp (maybe), BD every 3-4 days, diet, and exercise. I keep thinking a watched pot never boils.


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[smarston3]

Xx, hope you caught the egg

I'm pissed that, that doctor had be so concerned that I had missed our window that now I'm worried our attempt was too early


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[sageviolet]

Welcome, hbuhs! So what are your best boy swaying tips? I got a girl while I was underweight and sickly with Lyme. Dh also had a hot shower right before.

Aww, Maiden, so sorry. *hugs* Are you going to ttc this cycle or is the edd in your no zone? I remember you said you get the winter blues and wouldn't want a baby then. Maybe a break to find a better donor is just what you need.

smarston, do you have good cm that can help the sperm survive? With my dd, our attempt was 2 days before o. I didn't have my best ewcm that cycle, so I didn't think it would work, but in hindsight it was much better cm than I get now.

[maidentomother]

XX, I agree, it seems my watched pot never boils either.

There is ONE good thing that could come from this - earlier Dec DD. I really want that Sagittarius baby! But I have 2 weeks to find another donor, grr. I will try to go clubbing this weekend bc you never know and I gotta start somewhere. I'm trying online too.

I am finally feeling better (physically) today. Sore throat much better and fever fully gone. My temp was really low, like 97.52! Never had such a low CD1 temp in years and years.

[LacePrincess]

XX - agree about the watched pot. It always seems like when I've 'given up' that things finally work. With me though NTNP has NEVER worked, I'm not fertile enough, but not chart-sessing everyday seems to be the key....probably because relaxing helps my stress and lowers cortisol, which helps my fertility.


smarston - yeah, stop listening to your doc at least on matters of timing advice! Yeesh. Honestly I personally wouldn't be a patient of an RE that still buys into Shettles, I'd really be wondering how much other advice of his is completely out of date. :(


maiden - glad you're feeling better. Sorry to see that poor lonely dot chart though. I always feel like it's the saddest thing ever, that one lonely dot on a CD1 chart, LOL. But lonely-dot-day is always my cheat day so there's a bright side for me! And I like being out of the 2WW personally, I like that feeling of a new start and 'getting going' on a new cycle with fresh hope. All those months stuck in limbo land during my HT attempts with absolutely ZERO chance due to being on bcp or waiting out a cyst has taught me to be grateful for TTC, at least when TTC you are doing something productive and not just waiting with nothing going on.


Not much going on with me. AF is slowing down, so thank goodness nothing like that horrible post-FET hemorrhage level bleed. I was concerned about that last month since I worried that the baby aspirin I'm still taking was becoming a problem, but AF has been heavy but normal levels and slowing down already so normal for me.

Finished my cheat day leftovers yesterday, so alas back to healthy foods today. Boo.

Spring is finally arriving though, and the sunshine and temps are making me happy! Last few days of school before March break and then kids will be home next week. No more quiet mornings soon! Gosh I hope my O isn't delayed this cycle, two weeks seems really far away at this point, I want to try again already. I hate waiting!

[XXforhubby]

I am rooting for you Maiden! I really hope and pray that you get pregnant soon! GL clubbing this weekend. I bet that coupled with online searching, you'll find someone.

Sage- with my boys I had gobs of EWCM! I didn't take anything to get it- my diet probably caused it. Tons of protein at every meal (Kashi goLean cereal has a lot and is tasty!), and oats via granola and granola bars for snacks. I also loved walnuts and raisins. I think good healthy fats, protein, and oats to raise androgens all caused this for me then. Oh and I only cooked in olive oil and made dressings and marinades with extra virgin cold pressed olive oil.

I can only contribute my run of EWCM this cycle to acupuncture. Although it doesn't rival my CM with my boys! TMI- it was viscous like snot and would pour out at times [emoji12]!


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[smarston3]

Sage-I've had zero CM this cycle. My boy swag tips are BD every other day from day 7 thru day 20 and PNV.

Maiden, so glad you are starting to feel better!!


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[smarston3]

Lace, glad you enjoyed the cheats..you're my LE diet role model!


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[tm29]

tm29, maybe I'm too tired/sick, but I don't quite understand your situation. Do you have charts I could look at it? I'm much better with those. I hope I can help solve your mystery.[/QUOTE]

thanks Maiden. I was at the hospital today. I had 3 d and c's after a miscarriage. The last one was very very minor, on Jan 10th. My cycle still hasn't got going. I had a tiny bit of spotting last month after a +opk - but I don't think I actually ovulated or actually had aF. They were both almost but not quite what they seemed to be - ie a surge that didn't do the trick and bleeding that was just breakthrough bleeding.

Womb lining currently thin as you'd expect it to be post-AF apparently. Some enlarged follicles on the right ovary. I've been sent away and told to keep trying. I feel so sad and hopeless and depressed. I'm not even getting a chance to ttc! And I have no time to waste.

[tm29]

Sorry that quote didn't quiet come out properly. Those were your words at the top, maiden!

[sageviolet]

I need to vent: Remember in early Feb. when I went to see the fertility ob/gyn, my first time ever going to an ob/gyn? I got the bill today (for some reason insurance didn't cover it): $85! All they did was weigh me, take my blood pressure, and she told me I needed to take Creighton classes in order to chart my cm properly. What a ripoff. Never again.

One piece of good news, the first crocus is blooming!

xx, I can try the olive oil, but oats are a no due to my food allergies. I think all the grapefruit this cycle helped, still not great, but the first signs of improvement. Or maybe it was the acupuncture? I go for my next treatment later this week.

smarston, sorry if this is a dumb question, but what does what does PNV mean?

tm, *hugs*!

[smarston3]

Sage- pre natal vitamin. Also, I had a ton of EWCM when we conceived the boys..have you tried Mucinex to increase your CM?


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[XXforhubby]

Ah yes. The pre-natal vitamin. I took the one a day with DHA or the Centrum Specialist prenatal with DHA. Calcium and vitamin D.


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[Hbuhs]

Thanks sage!
I had tons of ewcm while conceiving my boys too... Also did high protein diets and lots of healthy meats and fats. Didn't realize this at the time. We also DTD allllllll the time. 1-2 times everyday for sure. DS1 we DTD all the time for fun, DS2 we were finally out of the honey moon stage hehe, but we loved it up for old times sake during Ovulation. Also I had the big O both times conceiving.


Im starting to feel discouraged about my sway, therefore "falling off the wagon" regarding diet and exercise for my next cycle.. I don't know if I'm pregnant let alone pregnant with a girl.
I started about a month ago By coming of birth control, LE diet; gave up meat was a big one for me. Also I started doing 30 minutes Cardio EVERYDAY (also huge for me going from not excercising at all). I took Femera CD3-7. Had sex on CDs 9, 11 & 15. Didn't "O" and DTD 'from behind' (lol sorry for the visual description). Side note: I have a very long canal- which is why we didn't do shallow release- also may be tmi, sorry! Haha
Anyways, I know on cd10 I had a 10mm & 13mm on right side (does the right side produce more boy sperm attracting eggs ???)
Im so worried that I'm pregnant with a boy. I would love him. But I want a girl more than anything in the world.
I also ended up with a UTI that probably started on my CD12 and I mistaked the discomfort for ovulation cramps. I just started antibiotics yesterday- and won't be ttc any further this month- though I think if O happened it has came and gone already.
Any words of wisdom out there or things that I should possibly do differently or suggestions?

[eleena2014]

Oh my god.lol. We were supposed to be bd last night and Sunday to be in with more of a chance of getting pregnant this cycle. I did mention this to df the other day.anyway last night we dtd. I said to him today did u actually come inside me last night? He's like no I didn't. Oh my god!! What a waste.lol. oh well. Roll on Sunday

[sageviolet]

Just to clarify, the bill was $150 for taking my weight and blood pressure, no exam, and $85 is how much our insurance won't cover. Things I can measure for free at home. Crazy!

smarston, yes, I tried guafenessin, all it made me do was cough a little while doing heavy breathing and bding. My cm gets watery already, so I don't think it needed a thinner. But I'm going to have to start checking cp and getting up there farther to see if some ewcm is hiding inside. This cycle I had what I thought was a little hint of ewcm and I've had tons of creamy as my dry state. It could be from acupuncture or from eating grapefruit every other day. Leading up to o, I took some epo on the non-grapefruit days, too.

I've been on Rainbow Light one a day the past couple of cycles.

hbuhs, when I had my girl I was battling Lyme and having lots of digestive issues. I was still eating meat, but I had to cut out all sugars and grains. I couldn't even handle rice or potatoes (usually ok for gluten-free) for about 2 weeks. I wasn't eating much and lost weight (I'm already thin, wasn't good). I was back on rice and potatoes in moderation when I conceived her, but that happened the month before. And I know dh had a hot shower right before because I remember telling him he wouldn't be able to do that when we started ttc, lol! Dd was a happy accident while I was still treating the Lyme, a month before we planned to really try. I can't understand why it's taking us so long this time.

[LacePrincess]

Hbuhs - boo on the UTI! :(

Eleena - omg hahahahaha. How frustrating though! But gosh...men...what was he thinking!?

sage - boo on the bill. :( At least it was 'only' $150? I've heard of far worse horror stories of medical billing, that's for sure! Still sucks though.

[smarston3]

hi everyone,

maiden-hope you are still on the mend

eleena-those DH's will make us stress!!

had an ultrasound and bloodwork today. looks like i ovulated 2 follicles, the other two are irregular so looks like they are giving up. progestrone is 23 and estrogen is 335.4 so she said that i ovulated on monday...again she says that when we BD on monday that it was perfect timing for pregnancy but not perfect timing for a girl..i just read Atomic's essay on timing to remind myself that she(the RE) is crazy....so, looks like I'm 3DPO...she said that I could take a HPT on next Sunday...i was thinking thursday?

[XXforhubby]

Smarston- that is great news! Looks like we are cycle buddies - I am 3DPO too! FX you caught the egg!

I won't test until Sunday though at the earliest. This is cycle 9 for me, and I want to be sure AF is truly late before I test.


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[smarston3]

XX-FX you caught the egg. And I'm glad we're still cycle buddies!! I'm freaking out that we BD on O day...think I need to go read the timing essay one more time. Augh


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[XXforhubby]

Remember it is your overall condition that matters the most. Obviously having tons of sex in your fertile window could undermine the best of diets, but having sex on O day doesn't. It is one attempt in your fertile window, which you did. You gave it your all!

FX you caught the egg!


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[smarston3]

Thanks XX-I needed you to say that. FX that we will be due date buddies soon [emoji4]


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[djmommy]

How is everyone doing!! Anyone else waiting to O? I think I finally O'd yesterday. I had a positive opk (finally) on Wednesday. My temp went up this morning but I also had a bit of broken sleep last night. I hate when that happens when I am temping. That is why it stresses me out. So after tomorrow's temp I will stop. We have been bd every 3 days and 1 attempt at pos opk.

Here is my chart. I know it is pretty inconsistent but I wasn't planning on temping but O was late so I decided to start to confirm.

26f267 Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/26f267/)

[XXforhubby]

I would say you Oed yesterday too. That is a pretty high temp rise! FX you caught the egg!


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[HealthyGirl]

How are you guys doing the temp thing?
I was planning on doing only OPK using wondfo. Is that sufficient? What more does temp tell you and do you take it using regular thermometer ?

Also does your CM tell you anything more and what's the ideal CM look like for TTC a girl?


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[XXforhubby]

How are you guys doing the temp thing?
I was planning on doing only OPK using wondfo. Is that sufficient? What more does temp tell you and do you take it using regular thermometer ?

Also does your CM tell you anything more and what's the ideal CM look like for TTC a girl?

You need a basal thermometer, glass or digital, that reads to the hundredths degree (98.01 instead of 98.0), or to two decimal places. Taking your temp orally will work, if you are not an open mouth sleeper. You can also take the temp vaginally, but you need to start with one and stick with it your entire cycle.

By temping, you will know if you are ovulating or not. Once you ovulate, you will see a rise in temp 0.3 or higher, above your previous temps. When O has occurred, your temp will stay high until either the day before or once AF starts.

Opks only detect your LH surge, which tells you should ovulate within 12-48 hours. You can still have an LH surge but not ovulate. Only temping can tell you have ovulated. Opks can predict O and temping can tell you have actually Oed.

If you decide to temp, I would join Fertility Friend for free to input your temps. FF has an algorithm to detect ovulation so you don't have to mull it over.

CM-if you check it after your period ends you should see a progression from dry, sticky, creamy, watery before O or during O, EWCM (egg white consistency), then it slowly drying up or staying creamy until a secondary estrogen surge or drying up. When TTCing a girl, the diet can cause you to have only creamy or watery CM. Some ladies still get the super fertile EWCM for a few days or not at all. It just depends, in other words. You can check your CM by inserting your finger into your vagina, or using toilet paper over your finger.

Hope this helps! Anyone else, please chime in!


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[djmommy]

Perfectly said XX!!

[eleena2014]

I just found ewcm when having a bowel movement but my opks are negative. I'm assuming and hoping this means it will turn positive soon. Am I right in thinking you can get ewcm before ovulation?

[XXforhubby]

I just found ewcm when having a bowel movement but my opks are negative. I'm assuming and hoping this means it will turn positive soon. Am I right in thinking you can get ewcm before ovulation?

Absolutely! Before, during, and even right after until a confirmed temp rise. I sometimes get another run of EWCM during a second surge in the LP.

FX you catch the egg! I'm rooting for you Eleena! [emoji8][emoji175][emoji175]


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[eleena2014]

Thank you still trying with the one attempt at +opk which should be Sunday. Last month I got a almost positive mid morning so we dtd then. This time I think I might wait till later on Sunday evening/night.

[HealthyGirl]

Thanks so much xx for all the info.


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[sageviolet]

FX for you, smarston! If you want to feel better about timing, yes, atomic's articles are great, and I also recommend searching the charts at fertilityfriend. You can specify pregnant with a girl in the search list.

XX, another beautiful chart so far! FX this is the one! How many acupuncture treatments have you had now? How often do you go? I have my second one today since I started up again for fertility. She wants to see me every 2-3 weeks. The first one was the day af came, it just worked out like that.

I have been having some digestive and emotional issues this week (an issue with a relative that brought out some of my emotional baggage). One night I could hardly sleep then woke up all sweaty. The sweaty wake-up happened with dd but it was around af time and accompanied with a temp dip, not the rise I had this time. And I know my stress levels have been up so much more than normal. So I'm thinking I'm out this cycle. My body chemistry has been really off. I'm hoping it's a sign of things coming out to be dealt with so I can get in balance. Really looking forward to the acupuncture today!

[XXforhubby]

XX, another beautiful chart so far! FX this is the one! How many acupuncture treatments have you had now? How often do you go? I have my second one today since I started up again for fertility. She wants to see me every 2-3 weeks. The first one was the day af came, it just worked out like that.

I have had either 13 or 14 treatments so far. I go twice a week for hormone balancing and improving fertility. I think it is working to balance my hormones but time will tell. It has normalized my menstrual cycle. I really enjoy it! I think this may be my last cycle though. At the end of this cycle, I will have had acupuncture for 3 cycles. I'll ask him about my progress tomorrow at my appointment.

FX it works for you!!




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[maidentomother]

Charts looking good ladies. I think my strep is gone and just the virus lingering, making me tired/headachey (so no clubbing, I want to make sure I'm 100%). My AF has been extremely light and weird so not sure what's up with that. Thin lining?

My cat tore open my (only) index finger that I use to type with on my tablet. With her teeth. That was 2 days ago and now I can type again a bit. I think she's sick bc it was really random and extremely brutal. At least I'm on antibiotics!

[smarston3]

Glad you are feeling better maiden. Sorry about the finger [emoji20]. It's always something


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[essnce629]

Maiden-- maybe you should take a pregnancy test just to make sure. Your extremely short luteal phase, 1 day period, and high temps seem really odd!

[Junie]

Hi ladies, we're on vacation and I'm afraid if I don't O soon I'll be boy swaying as vacation=lots of sex for us. I had spotting yesterday which I never have so I think I might be ovulating soon. I decided to BD last night even though we BD two days ago in the morning as I think I won't actually O until today or tomorrow and then hopefully I can avoid BDing for 2 days and we end up having only 1 attempt in the fertile window. The hotel has fantastic food so I hope the previous weeks of not eating much make up for now. Honestly though I just want to O and get a BFP!! I totally like the idea of 3 boys. Don't get me wrong I still hope for a daughter but if we get pregnant again and have a boy I think it is meant to be as I just really want them to be closer in age as my two sons now have such a special bond and they will already be at least one whole year farther apart :(

[Junie]

Maiden- I'm so sorry about your finger! Have you taken any supplements which could be affecting your lining? I'm glad you're starting to feel better!

[Junie]

Sage- I'm sorry about the emotional stuff this whole process can drive anyone crazy. I hope your acupuncture appt went well! I don't think you should count yourself out though!

Eleena- Good luck with your attempt today. I hood this is your cycle! Before the miscarriage I always got EWCM the day before I Od, so that is a great sign!

[Junie]

DJ- I also think you Od already if your temp stays up today! I've got everything crossed for you!

[Junie]

XX- As always your chart looks fab. I really believe you have a special little girl waiting for you who is putting you through this journey. I'm sending lots of positive BFP vibes your way!

[Junie]

Sorry if I missed anyone, I'm on my phone and it can be so hard to remember everything and reply. I'm reading everything though!

[maidentomother]

essnce, unfortunately it's normal for my temps to stay high during AF and also unfortunately, I've been having increasingly light AFs lately so I really don't think I'm pregnant. I think I have lining/hormone issues. Certainly not eating for 3 days while I was so sick can't have helped. Plus my temp dropped today anyway.

Junie, thanks, and no, not on any supps. I tried RRLT for a few cycles but it didn't do anything. I'm not aware of anything else that could help my lining....I was on Vitex for a long time, it did extend my LP most months but didn't affect my AF, it also really dried up my CM and it delays O every time I start or stop taking it so I will not be touching it again!

Where are you for your holiday? I think you are about to O, looking at your chart. Fx! Once I'm 7DPO this cycle I will officially start my sway break. I'm looking forward to fattening up a bit. :D

[Junie]

Maiden- you must be looking forward to relaxing on the diet! Sorry none of the supplements really helped. Hopefully this cycle works out and it doesn't matter. We're in Austria on ski-holidays. I'm having some "twinges" and also think I'm oing today, we'll see what my temps do!

[maidentomother]

Oooh fun, I have fond memories of skiing there myself. The food is delish no doubt! I would have apple strudel every day....and/or other pastries. I'm roasting a chicken & veggies right now, I figure I need the nutrients after being sick. Then I can make stock with the bones.

Are your LOs skiing at all yet?

[eleena2014]

Oh my god I'm so dumb sometimes.lol. We went out for.mothers day and I was meant to be checking my opks when I got back. I did a wee and completly forgot then before I went in the bath I did another and completly forgot again!! It's now 10.00pm and ill just have to do one and hope for the best. Took two yesterday that were negative the one this morning was getting darker and I'm due to ovulate tomorrow or Tuesday I think. 😡

[sageviolet]

Af came. I expected it and am in good spirits. Last week I had that incident and basically my body got stuck in "fight or flight" mode (very rare, haven't had such stress in a long time!), so I knew any chances for this month were out. The acupuncture was exactly what I needed to bring me back into balance. And since I calmed down I was able to deal with the issue with the person better. I didn't know acupuncture could help with conflicts, but it did in this case since it helped me calm down enough!

So if this cycle works, the edd is Dec. 21. I'm not crazy about that. I'm not going to prevent it, I'm so eager to be preg, but I'm not going all out this cycle trying everything and obsessing over my cm.

Junie and eleena, hope you catch those eggs!

[smarston3]

Oh Sage, sorry to hear that! Hope this cycle is your lucky one


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[maidentomother]

I'm sorry sage. I feel you, on the DD too.

Eleena, I hope you haven't missed your positive and O as scheduled.

[XXforhubby]

Sage- I'm so sorry [emoji20]. I'm glad the acupuncture is helping you in more than one way!

Eleena and Junie- I'm rooting for you two!


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[Grace]

I'm 9 dpo today and finding it harder and harder to stick to the LE diet, especially the no snacking part :-( and I have a feeling I'm not pregnant at all...
I need food!!

[Grace]

Good luck to you all xxx

[smarston3]

Grace, I feel the exact same way! Everything seems appetizing to me and I'm on 7 DPO. No feeling I'm pregnant either


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[maidentomother]

I've been crazy hungry lately, too. For no apparent reason considering I'm on CD6.

[smarston3]

Grace, when are you testing?

FX we all become Due Date Buddies soon


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[Grace]

I am not going to test until the day AF is due, which is about a week from today

[djmommy]

I'm 9 dpo today and finding it harder and harder to stick to the LE diet, especially the no snacking part :-( and I have a feeling I'm not pregnant at all...
I need food!!

I hear ya and I am only 4dpo! I had a hard day yesterday! I definitely didn't have a good food day but didn't obsess about it!

[XXforhubby]

I'm not feeling pregnant either, and I am 7DPO. I have been hungry more too- good sign of great progesterone production! I am coping by eating my meal a little earlier than usual and letting myself have a small treat with my meals!

FX we see more BFPS soon!


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[eleena2014]

Need advice please. As I missed testing with opks yesterday, apart from one with a v slight line in the morning, tested twice today and they are fading in darker. If it gets to positive tomorrow what to we do about bd as we did that last night as I thought I was going to get a +opk . Wasn't really wanting to go down the route of having two attempts. Would bd again on Thursday be too late?

[maidentomother]

Eleena, I'd stick to every 3-4 days in this case. Sperm can live for quite a while so don't worry too much about it!

[eleena2014]

Technically it was early hours Monday morning we finally got round to bd. So if I do get a +OPK tomorrow should there still be some up there by the time I ovulate?

[maidentomother]

Yes! 2-3 days before O is good timing.

[eleena2014]

Oh good. Here's hoping I see a positive tomorrow then. I really want it to happen now. We're only on our third cycle trying but it feels like a lifetime. I can't imagine what it feels like for you ladies who have been trying for months and months

[XXforhubby]

I would say your timing is good. I agree with Maiden and have another attempt in 3-4 days in case you O later than what your surges detects. This has actually happened to me starting 2 cycles ago. This cycle I didn't even get a positive opk, but I think my urine was too dilute. Otherwise, I have been Oing 2 days after my first positive opk. I think being on some version of the LE diet for a year now has caused this. Or it could be seasonal. I have never TTC a child in the spring months so I don't know what effect the season has on my O.

FX you catch the egg!!


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[3boyswantinggirl]

24260
I dont know if this will work... but, can anyone see a line?

[3boyswantinggirl]

Wow thats huge, sorry!

[Pbn3]

Hi 3boys I'm sure I can see a very very faint line. Fx for you!

[3boyswantinggirl]

Thanks for replying Pbn3! I swear I could, but now Im second guessing! Argh so frustrating.

[Pbn3]

I'm seeing it more each time I look. How many dpo are you? Will you be doing another test tomorrow?

[3boyswantinggirl]

Im 9dpo.. I know its still far too early to test and I promised myself that I wouldn't test until morning, as my calculations tell me I wont have enough hormone to produce a line until at least late tonight. I caved, and here I am, second guessing every shadow!

[Pbn3]

I'm positive I had a faint faint line like yours at 8dpo with ny second son. Couldn't test again till day 10 and was definate positive. I hope I'm right and not getting your hopes up. I've studied months of multiple pregnancy tests when I was ttc my 2 bubs and would go cross eyed staring at them! I wasted so many preg tests but just couldn't help myself lol. By the way hubby never seen the really faint lines even though they stood out to me! Good luck and please update us!

[3boyswantinggirl]

I'll let you know how I go!

[Grace]

Good luck 3boys!

[Junie]

Don't see a line yet but I bet I will when you test today 3boys!

Sage- sorry about AF!

Maiden- our almost 5 year old skis, the 21/2 year old will learn next year. I don't though, I just hang out, read books, and drink LOL. I actually can get down an easy hill on skis but I really need to take an intensive course which isn't possible while the boys are still so young. My husband and his family are really good though although my husband prefers snowboarding.

I hope some BFP show up soon- not feeling pregnant doesn't have to mean anything!

I'm still waiting on O. Thankfully I was able to push BDing to this morning which keeps us at every 3 days instead of EOD. I've had two basically positive OPKs so I hope to see my temps go up soon!

[eleena2014]

Good luck 3 boys

[eleena2014]

Is this a +OPK?24265

[True Blue]

I'd say not quite eleena but very close :)

[eleena2014]

i only have 1 opk left! i will take my last one later today, im assuming it will turn positive today. i dont know what to do about bd.
we bd sunday night/monday morning (1.00am) is it best to have another attempt wed which i didnt want to do or attempt on thursday or will that be too late if i end up ovulating thursday??? ideally it would be best thursday morning but its prob not possible,lol. if i ovulate tomorrow is there a good chance of conception from bd sunday?

[True Blue]

It is totally possibly to conceive on Wednesday from BD Sunday :)
I think I would stick to BD Thursday compromise with Thurs AM if you are worried.

[eleena2014]

you dont really know when you ovulate though do you? thats the problem.my opk says 24-48 hours after a positive.so it could be tomorrow or thursday.Then the egg only sticks around 12-24 hours! this was so much easier before the miscarriage :worry:

[sc1411]

I'm 12 DPO was almost sure about the pregnancy but still test negative on the tests. I have all the symptoms, even my stomach sticks out, LOL!
Maybe it is in my head(I thought I saw a shade of a line 8DPO). I will test again today or maybe wait one more day, hope it is still early.

[XXforhubby]

3boys- I don't see a line, but I'm hoping you do in a couple of days. FX

sc1411- I bet you are pregnant! With DS2, I felt pregnant and had all of the classic symptoms but couldn't get a positive HPT until I was 21DPO! I thought I was crazy! FX and blue dust [emoji92][emoji841][emoji843][emoji841][emoji94]

Eleena- so close! I would still BD either Wednesday or Thursday which will still be a good attempt. Depends on if you want 3 or 4 days. Both have good odds for pink.
Junie- FX you O soon and catch that egg! I'm hoping a relaxing vacation does the trick [emoji8]!


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[sc1411]

Thanks XX!
I was starting to think I'm loosing my mind.
With my last DD I had BFP earlier:)

[eleena2014]

Well I've just stuffed my last opk up. I noticed when I did a wee I had a load of cm drip out (tmi) and it dripped onto the opk. Then I noticed it wasn't working as it should be. Grrrr! The test line showed up after a few min and then a fainter line than this morning. But I noticed that it wasnt changing colour properly as the urine passes through the window. Unless it was working and they're now fading out??? I don't know [emoji31]

[smarston3]

Ok ladies, I'm going to sound like one of "those" women but..if I shine a flashlight from behind the pregnancy test and I can see a line..does that mean anything?


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[djmommy]

Ok ladies, I'm going to sound like one of "those" women but..if I shine a flashlight from behind the pregnancy test and I can see a line..does that mean anything?


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Usually there is an indent line that can be seen like that, especially on FRER. I know the feeling of looking at tests all different ways and seeing a line. Hoping you will see a beautiful pink line soon!!! FX!!FX!!

[smarston3]

Usually there is an indent line that can be seen like that, especially on FRER. I know the feeling of looking at tests all different ways and seeing a line. Hoping you will see a beautiful pink line soon!!! FX!!FX!!

thanks! i'm sure that's what it is, but, at least it gives me a little hope that i might get a BFP soon. absolutely, have no signs or symptoms and its discouraging. oh, and it was a dollar tree test

[XXforhubby]

thanks! i'm sure that's what it is, but, at least it gives me a little hope that i might get a BFP soon. absolutely, have no signs or symptoms and its discouraging. oh, and it was a dollar tree test

Dollar tree tests are very sensitive like the FRERs. I bet you will get a positive in 2-3 days.

FX!!!!


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[djmommy]

Dollar tree tests are very sensitive like the FRERs. I bet you will get a positive in 2-3 days.

FX!!!!


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I agree!!!!!

[maidentomother]

3boys, smarston, scm- good luck testing!

Eleena, buy some more OPKs! This is why I temp...bc OPKs don't work very well for me and not knowing what's happening drives me crazy.

[eleena2014]

I don't think I will buy anymore the ones I get are £3 just for 5 and then I've got to pay the bus fare to get into town. I'm pretty sure I'm ovulating today as my cm was clear and wet and it felt like I had wet myself. Lol. I'm also getting pinching pains now. I'm getting fed up with stressing myself about it and df doesn't like me telling him when to bd. He said it shouldn't be like this and it should be fun. I just want a bfp. I'm ready now. I can tell I am because I uses to get really nervous before our attempt but now I don't, I just want it to happen.

[eleena2014]

I could just cry right now. We just had another attempt. It's wed 1.00am. Which means we have now had two attempts which is not what I wanted to do. We kinda got carried away tonight but I told him not to come inside me but he did.😡. Is this really really bad??? We bd Sunday night/ early hours Monday morning as I thought I would get a +opk but didn't. Today mid morning I got a almost positive don't know if that was fading in or out as I feel I ovulated tonight as I have had pinching ovary pain.

[kitkat18]

Eleena just crashing in to say please please don't stress! I too ended up doing 2attempts Sunday and Tuesday ovulated Thurs and I'm 37 weeks with DD. Its life things happen!! FX its your BFP XX

[Sunbuny]

Does anybody know what an bbt drop on DPO 4 and then another drop below cover line on DPO 5 could mean? I'm getting frustrated trying to figure it out... I hope everything is OK. This is the first month we had kind of decent timing ( with 2 attempts ) and now my temps are going nuts. My temps during my period were extremely high this cycle too. They are usually quite low by CD2 or 3.


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[Junie]

Does anybody know what an bbt drop on DPO 4 and then another drop below cover line on DPO 5 could mean? I'm getting frustrated trying to figure it out... I hope everything is OK. This is the first month we had kind of decent timing ( with 2 attempts ) and now my temps are going nuts. My temps during my period were extremely high this cycle too. They are usually quite low by CD2 or 3.


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Maybe implantation dip or maybe you haven't ovulated yet would be my guesses.

[Junie]

Eleena I wouldn't worry at all. You might not actually ovulate until this afternoon or even later which would mean it was basically still only 1 attempt in the fertile window.

[Junie]

smarston- Evap lines can be barely visible on the cheapie tests. Try to convince yourself to just wait for tomorrow as that test will be able to give you better answers. I think not having any symptoms means nothing. My last pregnancy that ended in a miscarriage there was a woman expecting twins on a birth month board I was a part of that had basically no symptoms whatsoever. It is just how your body processes the hormones so you are definitely still in the game!

[Junie]

I'm still waiting to O. I'm also still having a bit of spotting every day which is so weird I have never had that before ovulation before. I really want to start BDing whenever I feel like it so I hope I O soon!!!!!!Also my DH hates that I am drinking every day, not much sometimes just a glass or 2 of wine or a beer but he thinks it is unhealthy but I feel like it sways pink and since my sway sucks now I don't want to give it up. It is also hard to do even a light sway diet at this hotel. I've started eating breakfast again and fasting between breakfast and dinner but I'm sure I'm consuming a ton of calories every day. Come on body, please O!!!

How is everyone else doing?

[Sunbuny]

I'm still waiting to O. I'm also still having a bit of spotting every day which is so weird I have never had that before ovulation before. I really want to start BDing whenever I feel like it so I hope I O soon!!!!!!Also my DH hates that I am drinking every day, not much sometimes just a glass or 2 of wine or a beer but he thinks it is unhealthy but I feel like it sways pink and since my sway sucks now I don't want to give it up. It is also hard to do even a light sway diet at this hotel. I've started eating breakfast again and fasting between breakfast and dinner but I'm sure I'm consuming a ton of calories every day. Come on body, please O!!!?

How far in your cycle are you Junie? I wonder what the spotting could mean too? I'm sorry.. I look at this from my phone so can't see charts [emoji17]


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[eleena2014]

im pretty sure i ovulated yesterday. i just dont understand what was going off with opk's.
from fri i had ewcm i have been testing since friday,yesterday i had watery cm which i have read is the one the you get onpeak day of ovulation.today i have next to nothing

[sageviolet]

Eleena, sounds like you o'ed! I wouldn't stress over the timing. Your diet and overall health are much more important factors.

My temps are unusually high for this part of my cycle since dd gave me her cold. I'm thinking odds might favor a girl this cycle, but at this point I don't care and odds are low I'll get pregnant anyway, right? I know that sounds really pessimistic, but I am still hopeful it'll happen eventually.

[eleena2014]

i am stressing,lol. everything i did before the miscarriage i have now cut out,such as baby aspirin,i now dont take antihistamines,although i did take one when we had our attempt sun. df is no longer taking lr or aspirin.i started him on ole but he doesnt take that as mush as he should as it upsets his stomach.
i have been doing a loose sway since jan and have managed to loose about 9lb which i know will help. i havent been doing exercise either.this is why i really wanted to keep at one attempt.if i did ovulate yesterday and we had an attempt whilst i was ovulating (i had pains) would this be classed as an attempt?

[maidentomother]

Eleena, I wouldn't worry, you could O later than you think and end up with only 1 attempt in your fertile period.

Sunbuny, unfortunately I really don't think you have Oed yet, your temps are so low and not much of a shift. FF often assigns O when it has yet to occur.

Junie, I was really hoping to see a temp rise from you, darn! Late/unpredictable O is sooo annoying. :(

I have my RE appt in 2 hours. I won't mention swaying. I doubt they can do anything for me this month except maybe put me on hormones if my lining is thin, since it is already CD8. I did take a pregnancy test just in case but stark white BFN. So it was just a super light AF, I'm not actually 13DPO. Very light line on my OPK so I don't expect to O for another 10 days, sigh.

DF is anti drug and won't be a donor if I need meds to conceive. LOL. Yeah, I told him he won't be my donor anyway. What an ass.

[XXforhubby]

Eleena- I wouldn't worry, this maybe what was needed for you to conceive. Plus it is your overall condition that matters! FX you caught the egg!

Sage- I had high temps with DS2 and I was sick- I had an awful cold from DS1 [emoji8][emoji170]!

Junie- I hope you O soon!!

Maiden- please update us after your appointment!


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[essnce629]

im pretty sure i ovulated yesterday. i just dont understand what was going off with opk's.
from fri i had ewcm i have been testing since friday,yesterday i had watery cm which i have read is the one the you get onpeak day of ovulation.today i have next to nothing
Eleena, I think most people have fertile (eggwhite or watery) cm for a few days before O (since that is when your chances of pregnancy are highest) and then by O day everything has already dried up. I know that's how I am every cycle. I get watery cm from about CD 10-13, then dry or sticky cm from CD14 till AF arrives. On average, I O on CD15 and I NEVER have fertile cm on that day. I've had two oops pregnancies like that so I wouldn't worry about it. Based on your cm, my guess is you are probably going to O today or tomorrow, which means you are still in with one attempt! By O day my opks are already negative as well. My +opks match up with my fertile cm and go negative the day before and the day of O. Fingers crossed for you!

[eleena2014]

But what about the pains? Don't they coincide with ovulation day?

[XXforhubby]

But what about the pains? Don't they coincide with ovulation day?

Not necessarily. You can get O pains before, during, or after O.

FX you caught the egg!!!


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[eleena2014]

Hope so x

[Sunbuny]

Do you always get ovulation pains Eleena? I generally don't so can't use that as a guide and I find that opks don't work for me. I stopped using them and I do feel more relaxed this month. I go off temps and cm now. Good luck! I hope you caught the egg. Here's hoping we all do.

Good luck with the Dr Maiden. Really hope they are able to figure out what is going on.

My temps rose again this morning. I'm pretty sure I ovulated last week and not sure what my temps are doing. Time will tell I guess.




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[Junie]

Good luck with the Dr. Maiden!!

I explained to DH that as soon as I confirm O I'll stop drinking all the time and now he is fine with it, which is nice for me. Now I just want to O so we can BD again!

[Sunbuny]

That's nice Junie. Ur DH sounds sweet. I've been pretty bad with the drinking part of my sway... I only had a few drinks this month..not enough to count I don't think. If we're not lucky enough to conceive this month I will drink more next month. Are you doing exercise as well? I'm considering dropping it next month. I'm finding 6 months of diet, exercise, work and 2 boys too much to handle. I feel something has to give.


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[eleena2014]

I've only been starting getting them since the miscarriage in Nov . But my doctor said the pains could be due to constipation? Which I have been getting sometimes but I'm pretty sure they're ovulation pains

[Sunbuny]

Mmmm... I think if you can see a pattern around ovulation time over months it's more likely to be ovulation pains. If it's constant over the month then maybe constipation. I don't feel Dr's ever have much faith in our observations regarding fertility signs. Do you all find the same thing?


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[sc1411]

I got BFP!!!
12 DPO, late in the evening, very very tiny line, but it is there. I had to let the test sit for several hours to get it(pharmacy brand test). Wondfo tests are still negative 13DPO. I will retest in couple of days to make sure it is right and I'm sane, LOL.

[eleena2014]

Congrats sunbuny

[XXforhubby]

I got BFP!!!
12 DPO, late in the evening, very very tiny line, but it is there. I had to let the test sit for several hours to get it(pharmacy brand test). Wondfo tests are still negative 13DPO. I will retest in couple of days to make sure it is right and I'm sane, LOL.

I sure hope and [emoji120] for a blue, sticky bean for you! Sending you heaps of rambunctious and snugly with mama, blue baby dust [emoji8][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]


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[maidentomother]

The RE asked surprisingly little, but did take blood despite me being on CD8. They say my CD doesn't matter, though I explained I O around CD18. I am paying extra to get my AMH level checked. DF will submit a SA tomorrow am (just what I want to do at 8am on my bday...NOT). Then on April 7th we have another appt to talk about our tesr results. They took blood from DF too. Not sure what they check on him? Apparently HIV tests are mandated for both of us, maybe that's it?

I did mention my short LP, late O, and generally irregular length but within normal range cycles (this last prompted the dr to check my AMH). Totally forgot to bring up my super light AFs recently. But the dr was interested in charting and I will bring my last couple years of charts to my next appointment.

Then I walked around Koblenz looking for a nice restaurant and like last time I was in Koblenz couldn't find a single appealing one. It is a culinary dead zone, I swear. I vastly prefer Bonn on the whole but the Bonn fertility Centre is booked up through August.

So we ended up at an old favourite restaurant in a town 5km away from my house, for our joint bday dinner I had a cocktail and quail and steak and a dessert sampler! But I couldn't eat it all so I doubt it even counts as a cheat. Tasty though :)

Tomorrow I will try to test drive a SKODA Yeti bc I really need a new car that I can drive comfortably. And I will do my favourite thing, go to a new Bio (organic) supermarket!

[maidentomother]

Comgrats sc1411! I hope that line darkens up fast!

[XXforhubby]

FX Maiden that the RE appointments become productive! Happy early Birthday!!!!


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[XXforhubby]

I think I need to get my iron levels checked- I am a complete space cadet today! Couldn't find things, things put in the wrong places, and I even spaced which burner I used while making dinner and burnt a lid to my marinade! Oh and DS1 just informed me I put a dirty bowl in the fridge! Seriously, what is wrong with me?!


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[smarston3]

XX-implantation tiredness??


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[XXforhubby]

I have never heard of that before. I just can't believe I could be pregnant. My acupuncturist took my pulse several times today during my treatment. He asked me if I could be pregnant. I told him anything is possible, and he only put needles in my ears, one on my head, and one on my forehead, just in case. Weird. I don't feel pregnant.

AF is either due tomorrow or Sunday depending on when I actually ovulated. I won't test until Monday, IF AF is late.


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[eleena2014]

Fingers crossed xx

[maidentomother]

XX, thank you! Your temp rise and 'estrogen idiocy' (as I call it) seem very promising. Fx so hard for you.

[Junie]

Maiden- That sounds like a really nice day!! I'm glad the appt went well and maybe the test will tell you something even on CD8.

XX- So exciting! I hope you see two lines on Monday

[Junie]

That's nice Junie. Ur DH sounds sweet. I've been pretty bad with the drinking part of my sway... I only had a few drinks this month..not enough to count I don't think. If we're not lucky enough to conceive this month I will drink more next month. Are you doing exercise as well? I'm considering dropping it next month. I'm finding 6 months of diet, exercise, work and 2 boys too much to handle. I feel something has to give.


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Honestly I'm sure drinking is not a huge sway factor, but it was easy for me to include it since we already drink 1-2 times a week normally. I've dropped exercise, and when not on vacation my diet was limited and included fasting/skipping breakfast and no snacking but I still ate meat sometimes and probably went over on fat a few times as well.

I think my body is still messed up from the miscarriage as I saw I had spotting around o last cycle as well, and my cycles have gotten really long again. Mentally I'm just not up for big sway tactics anymore so I'm going to hope for the best with how things are. I'm fine with a boy though.

[Junie]

Congrats sc1411

[Junie]

I still haven't Od. I'm so sick of these long cycles but I'm glad I'm temping so I know at least.

[sc1411]

Implantation tiredness?
Never heard about it before, but I was sleeping through the days couple of weeks before. Right now have a lot of energy:)
XX, I hope you will see two lines on Monday and we will be due date buddies!

[XXforhubby]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/19/6a1e0c476393ad6fa486909a338016be.jpg

Is this for real?! I have no idea what possessed me to take this, but I have NEVER gotten anything remotely like this on a Wondfo before. They are always stark white.

I'm shaking right now...


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[XXforhubby]

Sorry- not sure how to make this smaller! It looks much darker in person...


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[Rosie85]

Congrats xx!!!!! Beautiful line for wondfo. How many dpo??!

[XXforhubby]

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This one is better I think.


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[XXforhubby]

Congrats xx!!!!! Beautiful line for wondfo. How many dpo??!

Either 12 or 10DPO depending on when I Oed.

Thank you!!!


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[Grace]

How exciting XX!! Congratultions, I'm so happy for you!!

[eleena2014]

yey congrats xx you just be so happy!!

[XXforhubby]

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I took these with second morning urine after a cup of coffee!!!!


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[tarasue]

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I took these with second morning urine after a cup of coffee!!!!


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Huge congrats XX!!!! I am so happy and hopeful for you!!


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[smarston3]

XX-omg!!!! Congrats!!! I got all teary eyed reading this! Stick baby bean!

Don't think we'll be due date buddies but I'll be cheering you on for the next 9 months


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[Ugee]

Woo hoo! Go XX! Made my day seeing yiur bfp :highfive:

[maidentomother]

I that is a gorgeous line on a Wondfo! So happy for you, XX :) Finally!

[QueenB3blue]

Holy crap XX!! You're knocked up!!!!!!! Congrats!!!


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[sc1411]

So exciting!!! Congratulations XX!!!

[djmommy]

XX!! I am soooo very happy for you!! You so deserve it! Congratulations!! May you have a happy and healthy blessed nine months!! XXOO

[XXforhubby]

XX!! I am soooo very happy for you!! You so deserve it! Congratulations!! May you have a happy and healthy blessed nine months!! XXOO

We all do! I am Xing everything and [emoji120] that everyone gets their much deserved BFP. I know how it feels...and I want so much for everyone who is still waiting to get their BFP!


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[Blue-Blue-Pink?]

I am a silent lurker in this thread but I just wanted to jump in and say congratulations xx! So happy for you!

[essnce629]

But what about the pains? Don't they coincide with ovulation day?
Yes, I get O-like pains days before and after O. And similar pains during the TWW when I was pregnant.

[djmommy]

Yes we all definitely deserve our BFP'S!! It will happen soon!!

[maidentomother]

I get O pains for over half of my cycle. I.e. have more days with some type of discomfort on my ovary/ies than not. Even my severe, full on O pain can occur far from O.

[essnce629]

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This one is better I think.


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Omg, omg, omg XX!!! So excited for you! BEAUTIFUL dark lines for a Wondfo! My lines weren't that dark till 13dpo so I'm guessing you're 12dpo, not 10. Sending you lots of sticky vibes! Yay! This just made my day!

[Pbn3]

Huge congrats xxforhubby! So happy for you!

[HealthyGirl]

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Bd now or can I wait to bd in 24 hours?



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[XXforhubby]

Still not quite positive, since the test line is not as dark or darker than the control line.

If it were me, I would BD now and again in three days. That way you will be in the best position to catch the egg. If you want best sway, then I would either do one of the following: wait to BD on positive opk OR BD now then again in four days.

FX and [emoji120]for you!!!


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[HealthyGirl]

Thanks. I think I will wait to bd in 24 hours.
Do you think by tomorrow tonight I could be late to catch the egg?


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[XXforhubby]

No, you won't be late. Women typically O 24-48 hours after your first positive opk.

GL!!!


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[HealthyGirl]

Thanks for the quick replies.


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[Junie]

XX- oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I knew this was coming. I am THRILLED for you! Congrats :)

[maidentomother]

Wait until OPK turns truly positive and then BD again 4 days later.

[smarston3]

Healthygirl-good luck catching that egg!

Maiden-hope all this testing means you are catching the egg this cycle,...kinda like when you go to the restroom at a restaurant and your food comes

Well, I'm 11DPO and getting stark white BFN's. Just upset that I know I ovulated two eggs and were told our timing was perfect for pregnancy...we won't be attempting again until the end of May. As much as I like all of you, I hope none of you are in the 2ww club then..hope you are all in the due date buddy club together!!! FX for everyone!


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[sageviolet]

Just catching up as I'm still recovering...

Ahhh! XX!!! :-D
What did you do differently this cycle? Do you think it was the acupuncture?

And congrats, sc!!!

Maiden, Happy Belated Birthday! That dinner sounds yummy.

Smarston, *hugs*.

And Xx, thanks for the reassurance about having a cold with your ds2! I'm so happy for you. We've been on this journey together since last year. You give me hope! <3

[XXforhubby]

Ahhh! XX!!! :-D
What did you do differently this cycle? Do you think it was the acupuncture?

It sounds silly, but I just "let go, let be" this cycle. I was convinced I would never get pregnant, and I was truly ok with that. As a matter of fact, I told DH that I wanted to stop TTCing all together by the end of the coming May.

I truly believe that acupuncture, twice a week, helped me! I highly recommend it for anyone who is struggling to get pregnant!


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[XXforhubby]

And Xx, thanks for the reassurance about having a cold with your ds2! I'm so happy for you. We've been on this journey together since last year. You give me hope! <3

I know you will get your much deserved BFP, and all of you ladies too! Know that I am praying for all of you! I know how hard it is to want something so badly, but you can't make it happen....I believe it will,
It just has to!

Take my blue dust Sage, DH will Be PI$$ed if this is another boy! [emoji8][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]


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[sc1411]

I'm back with some bad news:sad:
My pregnancy tests never got darker and my AF arrived today(had terrible hot flashes last couple of nights).
I guess it was chemical. So disappointing.

Would you girls suggest to try next month? I heard the very next month sways pink?

[XXforhubby]

Oh sc1411, I'm SO sorry [emoji20]!

I would try next month. I would keep doing the HE diet, moderate exercise (if you are already doing it) and BD every 2-4 days once AF ends, then switch to every day once you get to your fertile window and through O.

FX and [emoji120] for you! Please take my blue dust [emoji8][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]


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[XXforhubby]

Remember, diet and exercise sways the most!!!


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[sc1411]

Thank you for your support XX!
Please have my pink dust in exchange for your blue one:)
I will recover today and start resuming everything tomorrow.

[maidentomother]

Oh I'm so sorry sc1411. I don't think CPs sway pink very strongly and certainly diet & lifestyle sway MUCH more. Just keep swaying blue and I think you have sn excellent shot at conceiving a boy this cycle. Fx for you.

[sc1411]

Thank you maiden!

[smarston3]

sc-I'm so sorry! Fx for next cycle


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[XXforhubby]

I got to thinking sc1411, and I forgot to mention this earlier.

I had a chemical the cycle before I conceived DS2. HE diet, moderate exercise, and frequent BDing in fertile window trumps ANYTHING!!


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[sc1411]

Thanks XX!
I'm calming down already, I know things happen.
It upsets me that I put up such a good sway that smth had to go wrong. And of course I eased a out a little bit from the diet and didn't exercise last week:hair:
No I'm not upset, I'm pissed off!!!
I hope it doesn't matter, i will catch up right away.

[sc1411]

XX, thank you for sharing:)

[Junie]

I'm sorry sc1411!

[Junie]

I'm so thankful for my husband you guys! I wanted to BD again last night because I am so scared of missing this egg. He was too tired though, and this morning I woke up to find I Od. I now have one attempt in the fertile window at -2 and -4, but I don't really count that one as it was very early in the morning so almost -5. This is so much better then if I had BD last night which would have given me the same timing as with both my boys. My sway is still a very light sway but at least I have basically only 1 attempt in the fertile window. Now I just have to hope that this cycle ends in a BFP! How many days past O are everyone else?

[Sunbuny]

Good luck Junie! Hope you catch the egg. I have a really good feeling about you this month.

According to FF I'm 9 dpo now.. But my temps went beserk at 4&5 dpo so I'm not sure if I'm out or still in with a chance. Fx for all of us waiting!!!


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[Grace]

Sounds promising Junie, good luck!
I'm 15 dpo, but too afraid to test. AF is expected tomorrow, though I haven't had any of my usual pre-af spotting. I don't have any other symptoms, other than extreme fatigue and thirst. I'll wait another day and see what happens.

[XXforhubby]

Junie- that is awesome!

Sunbuny- I'm Xing everything that this is it for you!

Grace- pleeeeese test! Then I can start the December due date thread! I haven't yet, because I don't want to talk to myself [emoji6]!

I'm Xing everything and [emoji120] for everyone waiting! [emoji8][emoji92][emoji170][emoji175][emoji94]


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[eleena2014]

Think I am 5 dpo.

[maidentomother]

Junie, so happy your temp rose!

Grace, fx for you!

I am afraid O will be very delayed this cycle bc none of my fertility signs indicate I am remotely close to O. I guess it's better than my weeks of endless gobs of EWCM last cycle, but wow what a difference. If I don't O by CD20 I will TTA this cycle bc I do NOTwant a late Dec DD. Ugh body do something!

[smarston3]

I'm 13 DPO and as of yesterday, still BFN. Last night I started with horrid back pain that I've never had before. Thinking that the clomid is going to make AF a bigger bitch then usual..FX for everyone!!

Maiden-DS2 is an xmas baby. It's awful, which is why we weren't attempting next cycle. However, I think mentally for my sway tactics, we need to attempt. I just can't wrap my head around waiting 2 cycles. Hope your body gets it sh!t together!


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[djmommy]

Hey all! Hoping everyone is doing well. I try to keep up but usually can't!!

Maiden I wanted to wish you a Happy Belated Birthday. I hope you can get some answers from your bloodwork and I think it is great that DF is getting a SA done, right? Not sure if you still want him though...LOL

sc1411 I am really sorry about the chemical...all losses are so hard.

Hoping to see some more BFP's!!!

ASF...I am 10 dpo and BFN. So bummed. I know it is early but with DS 2 I got a positive on 9 dpo so I don't give myslef much slack. I decided to give acupuncture a try next cycle. If anything , I do need some relaxation time.
Good Luck to everyone waiting to test and hoping you all caught a good egg!!

[Junie]

I'm sorry about the BFN djmommy- just remember every pregnancy is different and it doesn't necessarily mean anything!

[djmommy]

Thanks Junie!!
Nice temp rise! Hoping that you caught the eggie!!

[Junie]

Smarston3- I hope AF doesn't come!!

[smarston3]

Thanks junie, I know I shouldn't be complaining when others have been trying for a lot longer. I'm blaming the clomid for giving me false hope and for this terrible PMS that I've never had in my life!! Typically, I get a small, steady headache for two days before and that's it..these mood swings, cramps, and back pain are terrible.

The fact that DH suggested we attempt this cycle knowing we can get another xmas baby makes me feel better. I feel like my sway tactics have a purpose if that makes sense.

Thanks for reading and FX for you!


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[Sunbuny]

Sounds promising Junie, good luck!
I'm 15 dpo, but too afraid to test. AF is expected tomorrow, though I haven't had any of my usual pre-af spotting. I don't have any other symptoms, other than extreme fatigue and thirst. I'll wait another day and see what happens.

Test Grace!!! Fx for you!!!


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[Grace]

So... today I've had some spotting. Looks like AF is on the way :-(
Good luck everyone else xxx

[purple]

Hi :)
I'm finally in the TWW after missing ovulation last month then having a weird AF that lasted 20 days with just spotting/light flow. It finally stopped Friday and by Sunday I got an OPK+ and think O was today (waiting for temps to confirm). Not holding much hope being the first try but I guess you never know. I'm a little concerned my hormones are a bit messed up though.


Sorry about the spotting Grace :(

[sageviolet]

*hugs*, sc1411! I had 2 af after my early loss then conceived dd, but I was sick with Lyme and that definately swayed pink. You might not o the first cycle after. I would use the time to really get yourself in top shape for a good sway, like keep up with the diet and supplements. Are you taking wheatgrass? Hey, at least you know you can get pregnant! After so many months, dare I say it, I wouldn't even mind a chemical too much because it would show me some of my parts are working.

Xx, you are so sweet! Yeah, the cycle where you don't care is the one, lol. I'm almost to that point. I'm much more laid back about it all than I used to be. I'm curious if you took the wheatgrass to help your fsh levels?

lol, my obsession with wheatgrass this morning is because I ran out and wonder if it's worth it to keep taking it.

Sounds good, Junie! I'm still waiting to o. I expect it to happen next weekend.

FX for Sunbuny, eleena, smarston, dj, purple, and the others in the 2ww!

*hugs* for you Grace! Please enjoy a cheat day.

[XXforhubby]

Hugs Grace!

Sunbuny- I think crazy cycles sway in a weird way. I had my shortest, 21 days, right before my BFP. I'm Xing everything and [emoji120]for you!

Sage- I thought about taking wheatgrass, but I didn't. I didn't know if I would be allergic to it or not. When I had my allergy testing back in 2004, I am allergic to all of the species of grass they tested! I'm [emoji120]for you Sage! [emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]


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[Junie]

Grace I'm so sorry to read this :(

purple- I feel like messed up hormones sway pink so at least that is in your favor LOL. I hope you get lucky this cycle.

Sage- Sorry I can't help you on the wheatgrass but I hope this is your cycle.

My temps are still quite high so I hope I O'd on Saturday. I don't think my cold would affect my temps that much but you never know. I haven't BD in days though due to feeling ill so I really hope I did O or my timing will be terrible!!

[sc1411]

Thanks Sage. I'm trying not to think about it.
Yes, I'm taking wheat grass supplements.

[Sunbuny]

Grace.. Do you think spotting necessarily means your out? I had spotting with my last pregnancy (DS2) when my period was due. I'm hoping you're still in.

XX - my cycle was 21 days last cycle too. It's never been that short. This one is longer.

I stuffed my sway last night. I couldn't sleep and at 1 am I had a middle of the night snack.. Peanut butter toast and thick hot chocolate. It did the trick.. I fell asleep an hour later. I really hope we conceive soon... I'm getting so over this. Unfortunately I'm not good at waiting and letting things be ( probably why I have 2 boys ).

Have a wonderful day all xxx


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[Grace]

AF is here..... I'll have to revise my tactics and see how to improve my chances

[essnce629]

Sorry you're out Grace. Fingers crossed for next month!

[Sunbuny]

Sorry Grace [emoji17] what was your timing?


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[Grace]

Thanks girls!
The last two cycles we DTD on cd10 and I ovulated on cd12. I must say I had no apparent EWCM, so maybe we should have dtd closer to o? Maybe once every 4 days isn't enough in my case?

[XXforhubby]

Thanks girls!
The last two cycles we DTD on cd10 and I ovulated on cd12. I must say I had no apparent EWCM, so maybe we should have dtd closer to o? Maybe once every 4 days isn't enough in my case?

I'm so sorry Grace [emoji22]! BDing every 4 days didn't cut it for me either. I would switch to every 3 days. Big hugs [emoji8]


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[djmommy]

Sorry Grace! AF stinks. Mine is on her way soon :(. Maybe you can try a little preseed or conceive plus, it may help.

[Sunbuny]

I'm 12 dpo and temp dropped this morning. Still above coverline but still... I'm starting to lose hope too.

My timing was O -3 and O day.


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[eleena2014]

The pt I have say they can be taken 4 days before period is due (15dpo) i think i ovulated on cd 15 . I am due on on Monday does this mean the earliest I can test is Thursday?

[XXforhubby]

Yeah. Check the box and see if there is a percentage on how accurate it is 4 days before AF. I wouldn't take it that early if the percentage is 90% or lower.

FX and [emoji120]for you!!


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[Sunbuny]

I'm 12 dpo... For some silly reason I took a test. BFN at 12 dpo [emoji25][emoji22]


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[eleena2014]

Probably too early sunbuny. For some crazy reason I tested today at 8dpo.lol. bfn

[Sunbuny]

I usually spot by dpo 12 but nothing so far today... I think I'm clutching at straws because I just want it to happen. My body isn't like clockwork even before I started swaying so I should just wait till at least 15 dpo before testing ( if AF doesn't arrive by then). Fx for both of us Eleena and everybody else still waiting xxx baby dust to us all!!!!


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[Junie]

I'm sorry Grace! I would maybe switch to every 3 days.

Sunbuny I hope you are just too early and your BFP is still coming!

I'm still sick with a cold so I'm not sure if I can trust my high temps but it is still too early to think anything anyway as I am only 4DPO according to FF.

[sageviolet]

Xx, how are you feeling? Did you have any unusual symptoms in the 2ww this time?

FX for those testing soon!

All that talk about cm and checking cp, and my tactic this time is "I don't care". I might not even use opks. I'm just enjoying sparkle week and fun with dh, no worries or wishes, just trying to enjoy life.

[XXforhubby]

Xx, how are you feeling? Did you have any unusual symptoms in the 2ww this time?

I'm feeling pretty good- nausea, diarrhea instead of puking [emoji12], increased thirst, and pretty wiped towards the end of the day.

Two nights before I tested, I noticed my hair wasn't shedding like it usually does (I normally have 1/4 handful since I wash my hair every other day- curly hair). This happened with both of my boys. I thought this is odd!

Then the next day I was SUPER forgetful, and I remember everything! I was also more thirsty than usual. The next morning- BFP.

FX and [emoji120]everyone gets their BFP!


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[HealthyGirl]

Hi ladies!
I hope everyone gets their BFP!

Junie we are cycle buddies. I'm 5dpo.

Last month we bd with one attempt 1 days day before positive opk and we got a BFN.

This month we bd closer to ovulation ( 8 hours after positive opk). I have a feeling the one attempt might not work for us either and have to maybe do every 4 days or even 3 days

As far as symptoms. I have some weird ovulation like pains here and there but it could just be gas. I think I'm reading into it to much.


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[smarston3]

Hi everyone,

Good luck everyone!!!
Maiden-did you get any results back?
Junie & healthy girl-FX you caught the egg

XX-told you it was implantation tiredness [emoji4] hehe

sunbuny-praying for two pink lines

I started spotting today so I assume tomorrow will be CD1. Going to schedule my baseline scan for Friday. Just bought a BBT since I've never gotten a +OPK. I'm contemplating going to the every 4 day method as well



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[XXforhubby]

Sounds like a good plan! I'm glad I temped the cycle I got my BfP- I never got a positive opk, which is unusual for me!

I would do 1 maybe 2 cycles of BDing every 4 days from the end of AF through confirmed temp rise and then maybe switch to every 3 days.

How many cycles have you been ttcing?

FX and [emoji120]for you!!!


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[smarston3]

XX-I'm am soooo happy for you but a lil sad we aren't cycle buddies anymore[emoji17], but, I will enjoy reading about your journey!
This will be month 3 for us. I know that isn't a long time but thinking the every 4 day is better for my "Martha" issues. I was talking to my cousin yesterday. She's expecting a boy after two girls. Was telling her all about the sway tactics and she is a walking example of them working! (Of course, she didn't realize it until I explained it to her). She was giving me tips about eating vegetarian and our local restaurants that have good menus..she kinda gave me a good push to keep going (if that makes sense)


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[XXforhubby]

I would definitely do every four days, then. It is way less stressful, and DH's like frequent BDing [emoji6]!


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[eleena2014]

If i ovulated last Tuesday night which I think i did, does that make me 9dpo today or tonight or would it not matter? Did another sensitive 10miu test and bfn again. Hoping it's too early. But it say you can test 4 days before your period is due. I'm due on Monday so today would make it four days before. But if I didn't ovulate till cd 15 late in the day it might be too early wouldn't it?

[Junie]

eleena2014- 9DPO is almost always too early to get a positive test

I had a huge temp drop today after having a fever last night (which thankfully also broke in the night). I've never had a temp drop like this, so I'm interested to see what my temps do tomorrow. I'm pretty sure that I have O'd going by OPKs, and CM.

[XXforhubby]

FX for you Eleena and Junie!!!


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[Sunbuny]

I'm pretty sure I'm out... 14 dpo today and big temp drop this morning [emoji17] still waiting on a sign of AF though. And 2 BFN. Could you girls take a look at my chart and give me your thoughts... 24461


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