Curious if it's believed if napping sways

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I've been wondering this for awhile. I know lack of sleep or broken sleep presumably sways pink; but what about naps.
I need naps in my life. [emoji42]


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[Dana-Alicia]

How do you take naps with 4 boys?? Lol I LOVE taking naps, but it just ain't happening, the little monsters won't let me! Don't know if it sways though, I think if lach of sleep sways pink (and I don't know if it does) then taking naps would not be the best thing to do? Oooh Atomic?

[atomic sagebrush]

I think it would tend to sway blue but at the same time - the need of naps may indicate you're not sleeping well at night, yk?? So someone who tends to require naps may be tired anyway.

And I have the same question as Dana - how do you nap with 4 boys??

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Lol!!! Ds 1 is 20, lives with dad. Ds2 is 15 - in hs, ds 3&4 SOMETIMES nap at the same time but boy howdy those days are far and few between and likely numbered since ds 3 is now 3yrs old... I'm getting lucky here lol
I'm tired. Ds 4 has been waking again - last night was 130, 4, then it was the pile of babies in my bed keeping me up lol I wouldn't change it for the world but Ya a daily siesta would be awesommmmmme OH and af here makes me just want to crawl into a hole and sleep... Terrible



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[Adia]

I've been wondering this for awhile. I know lack of sleep or broken sleep presumably sways pink; but what about naps.
I need naps in my life. [emoji42]

I almost think napping is a genetic thing. My grandmother's family is from Spain where people still take a siesta. I honestly think napping is in my genetics. I could EASILY take a siesta every day, even on the days I sleep well. I just love a little down time escape from reality in the middle of the day. It recharges me for the rest of the day.

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

On the days that I do get one, I spend the first hour thinking that they'll wake up lol! But if I do doze off its heavvvvenly


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[Dana-Alicia]

I always wake up feeling like crap after a nap! It doesn't refresh me at all lol, I need a loooong sleep. But both my kids stopped their naps when they were almost 2 :( And the nights have always been way too short, with way too much waking mama up. I hope my next baby takes after mama, I love my sleeps! But if tiredness sways pink, I'm feeling a bit better about it :D

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Ya Dana you're in a good place sleep wise for pink!!!


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[Ashforblue]

Well crap! My dd who is 3 yrs is waking up a couple times a night just to have me put her blakents on her!! Do you think having my hubs let me sleep in later everyday will counter act that so it won't affect my blue sway? I would make my hubs wake up with her but of course she just wants mom, sigh.....

[Dana-Alicia]

Ash, I conceived my Ds2 on horrible nights! DS1 would constantly nurse (yes, I conceived a boy while breastfeeding!) and I would be awake during it as it was too uncomfortable to sleep through it. But if you can, sleep out yes and take naps. Make sure you're rested. But then again, loads of women conceive boys on little sleep, I think it's more the diet and weight lifting that counts. You can have all my blue dust if you like? *sprinklesprinkle!*

[Ashforblue]

Well then I will stop stressing and make dh wake up with the kids, I'd rather sleep in anyway!! I would love all your blue dust only if you take all my pink!! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Well crap! My dd who is 3 yrs is waking up a couple times a night just to have me put her blakents on her!! Do you think having my hubs let me sleep in later everyday will counter act that so it won't affect my blue sway? I would make my hubs wake up with her but of course she just wants mom, sigh.....

I doubt it sways much though. If you're doing all the other things to sway, that won't tip the balance, you know? I had been down on sleep when I conceived my DS 4, that's for sure!! Still getting up with DS 3 in the night!

[Ashforblue]

Good to know! I'm trying my best with all the other sway tactics and am really taking a liking to weight lifting!! I've even joined a vegan weight lifting Facebook page that really helps me!! ��

[Dana-Alicia]

Sssh Atomic, Ash needed a good excuse to sleep in! ;) I know I would :D

Oh I'll sacrifice Ash, I'll take all the pink dust you got :oops:

[Ashforblue]

Lol Dana!!!! :rofl::rofl:

[Ashforblue]

This is probably tmi, but My hubs has gotten a major boost in sex drive and wants it all the time.... So I've been trading dtd for sleeping in and he cleans!!! Hahaha!

[Dana-Alicia]

Hahaha yes! That's what I do as well! I give him nookie and he takes the kids off my hands for awhile lol! Or anything else I desire if I make him want it bad enough. Muawhaha! :highfive: (and uh I think the major sexdrive sways boooyyy for him?! Because high testosterone and stuff?)

[Ashforblue]

Haha, glad it's not just me that does it!! I'm hoping that it sways blue b/c he certainly has the drive!

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

lol this thread got funny!! Ash I totally can say that same as Dana i conceived a boy while breastfeeding; and as atomic said its the other stuff that tips the scales.
And my DH is Mega horny and that scares the bejesus out of me with those T levels [emoji51]


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[Dana-Alicia]

Sweety, my DH used to be really horny as well when we conceived DD, he was only 21 when we made her so at the top of his game! lol. It was me who wasn't all into it at the time as I had a lot on my mind at uni and was writing my thesis, which was very stressful :sigh: Now with all the stress going on with the move and his demanding studies and job his libido has come down. I don't mind as my libido is just as pathetic right now. Except when I'm round my O :p We can only try to get our husbands change their lifestyle a little bit with supps (and I'm going to make him drink soy milk, very much against his will as he says it's disgusting haha) and the rest is up to us. We can do this!

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Does soy milk itself lower t, or is it the preferable replacement for white milk? My DH does ve drink milk at all. Cream in his coffee but no cereal with milk or glasses
Of milk


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[Dana-Alicia]

Uhm not sure, I think soy decreases fertility?? But am def not sure about that! My husband drinks loads of coffe with milk and sugar, so am hoping he will take soy instead. And has an occasional glass of milk or cereal with milk.

[atomic sagebrush]

lol this thread got funny!! Ash I totally can say that same as Dana i conceived a boy while breastfeeding; and as atomic said its the other stuff that tips the scales.
And my DH is Mega horny and that scares the bejesus out of me with those T levels [emoji51]


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Mine too. There are definite exceptions out there I"m sure but overall that is the trend I see with the Custom Swayers (many of the Custom Swayers are not regulars on the site and thus don't "know" what they are supposed to say and are better sources of unbiased info than people who may just be telling me what I want to see) is that the blue swayer's husbands have WAY lower sex drives and sometimes can't even manage the 3-5 attempts in the fertile window. My husband can manage 3 times in one DAY and he's 46 years old. I wish I was making that up BTW. :/

[goodmom]

Nice thread ...i dont know if its weather or what ...i m also napping now everyday with my younger one ... sometimes napping or relaxing with a cup of tea ...seems like the luxuries of life :) .....specially as my kids wakeup every 2-3 hr at night till they turn 2 :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Does soy milk itself lower t, or is it the preferable replacement for white milk? My DH does ve drink milk at all. Cream in his coffee but no cereal with milk or glasses
Of milk


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Soy milk and soy protein foods ~probably~ sway pink for everyone. It has been shown to lower testosterone levels. There is some conflicting info about soy for DW, because it has something called "phytoestrogen" that the old school swayers claimed swayed boy. I don't happen to think it sways blue for DW or DH, but until I have more information, I use it only for DH right now and not DW.

RE milks -

for those on standard LE Diet - skim milk and rice milk are best. You can use full fat dairy products in moderation as a way to get fat if you need some
for those on alternate LE Diets - full fat animal milk only. All other milks and milk replacers are terrible for blood sugar and may suppress fertility

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh and of course for blue swayers I think whole milk is best, almond milk and coconut milk is second best. I'd avoid soy milk and rice milk for blue

[Dana-Alicia]

3 times a DAY? At 46? Oh my! Poor you Atomic, although I guess he's really into you ;)

What I was wondering, it's true that bald men have high testosterone levels, right? My father is bald ( he was 20 when he started loosing his hair) and according to my mom he wants it every day (and now I need therapy for the rest of my life, thanks mom) and they have 4 girls. I've noticed around me a lot of bald men have girls, but testosterone should be more blue-ish right? This is so confusing, especially because there are so many sway factors. My husband had a full head of hair though and so does his dad and granddad.

[goodmom]

My hubby is abt to get bald ..he also started losing his hair in late 20s ...but i think it runs in their family ...i have two dds but my sis who is married to his cousin is totally bald but they have got 1 son :) ...not sure if baldness matter ...

[Dana-Alicia]

Yes, it runs in the family, but I thought it was also testosteron-related. Don't know if that is family related also?

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Soy milk and soy protein foods ~probably~ sway pink for everyone. It has been shown to lower testosterone levels. There is some conflicting info about soy for DW, because it has something called "phytoestrogen" that the old school swayers claimed swayed boy. I don't happen to think it sways blue for DW or DH, but until I have more information, I use it only for DH right now and not DW.

RE milks -

for those on standard LE Diet - skim milk and rice milk are best. You can use full fat dairy products in moderation as a way to get fat if you need some
for those on alternate LE Diets - full fat animal milk only. All other milks and milk replacers are terrible for blood sugar and may suppress fertility

Probably too late to encourage it now. My husband is basically on the same diet as me except he eats beef burgers instead of my veg burgers. He probably eats less than the average person should, very lean. Not sure if it's a big weight toward pink ok not


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[XXforhubby]

Probably too late to encourage it now. My husband is basically on the same diet as me except he eats beef burgers instead of my veg burgers. He probably eats less than the average person should, very lean. Not sure if it's a big weight toward pink ok not


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I think it helps! At least I hope it does! My DH started to do the LE diet and cardio with me the last 16 weeks we were TTCing. He still has kept it up, because he likes the way it makes him feel and he is in the best shape of his life [emoji4]!

I'll know soon what we are having, but I think anything that DH's do to change their condition too could only help a sway.


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Well, mine didn't change a lot. He's terrible for skipping 2-3 meals and pretty much always was. It's just the meat that is different. I'm so excited for your scan!


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[Ashforblue]

Wow, 3 times a day!?! If I would give it to my hubs that many times he'd be in heaven!! Of course if he keeps cleaning I might have to let him, lol!!!

Hitme, maybe you could slip soy milk in his food? Also, you can make some really yummy salad dressings out of the silken tofu that might help!!

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

He's so farm boy. He won't even eat yogurt dressings. I am thinking of doing smoothies with soy - hed never know and would like it.


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Soy milk and soy protein foods ~probably~ sway pink for everyone. It has been shown to lower testosterone levels. There is some conflicting info about soy for DW, because it has something called "phytoestrogen" that the old school swayers claimed swayed boy. I don't happen to think it sways blue for DW or DH, but until I have more information, I use it only for DH right now and not DW.

RE milks -

for those on standard LE Diet - skim milk and rice milk are best. You can use full fat dairy products in moderation as a way to get fat if you need some
for those on alternate LE Diets - full fat animal milk only. All other milks and milk replacers are terrible for blood sugar and may suppress fertility

Is it believed to have "instant effects"? Should I run out and shop for smoothie stuff and soy milk?
Attempt is between 8-12 days away ish.


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[atomic sagebrush]

3 times a DAY? At 46? Oh my! Poor you Atomic, although I guess he's really into you ;)

What I was wondering, it's true that bald men have high testosterone levels, right? My father is bald ( he was 20 when he started loosing his hair) and according to my mom he wants it every day (and now I need therapy for the rest of my life, thanks mom) and they have 4 girls. I've noticed around me a lot of bald men have girls, but testosterone should be more blue-ish right? This is so confusing, especially because there are so many sway factors. My husband had a full head of hair though and so does his dad and granddad.

It's horrible. I don't do it of course but it's just this huge source of tension all the time.

I see a lot of bald men with all girls like Bruce Willis. It's one more thing that makes me doubt the male testosterone theory of swaying.

[atomic sagebrush]

Probably too late to encourage it now. My husband is basically on the same diet as me except he eats beef burgers instead of my veg burgers. He probably eats less than the average person should, very lean. Not sure if it's a big weight toward pink ok not


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I dont' think hubby's diet matters very much and it's one nice thing to not have to fight about!

[atomic sagebrush]

I don't totally know, but 8-12 days is better than O days, LOL

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Ya I suppose so. Not that he'd consume daily. I can barely get that man to remember OLE. I think I'm on my own here lol


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[covered in blue]

Haha I hope baldness sways girl! DH is totally loosing it since DS3 :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

Sweety, my DH used to be really horny as well when we conceived DD, he was only 21 when we made her so at the top of his game! lol. It was me who wasn't all into it at the time as I had a lot on my mind at uni and was writing my thesis, which was very stressful :sigh: Now with all the stress going on with the move and his demanding studies and job his libido has come down. I don't mind as my libido is just as pathetic right now. Except when I'm round my O :p We can only try to get our husbands change their lifestyle a little bit with supps (and I'm going to make him drink soy milk, very much against his will as he says it's disgusting haha) and the rest is up to us. We can do this!


I thought Soy swayed boy. I guess soy milk is different! I'm behind!! lol I had my hubby take calcium, magnesium, (like I did) and add cranberry. I couldn't take cranberry because I was nursing. Frequent release sways pink, so get him to do it as much as I'm getting mine to! :wink: Did you get a rock salt lamp?

[Butterfly Spirit]

If you need naps, I would take those naps!! :wink:

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I didn't get a lamp but I want one. Just bc there perty. And I guess it's just soy for him.
I was advised against FR (for us) bc im on Clomid/with a time restraint kinda, and we don't want to lower odds of conception a crazy amount...


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[Dana-Alicia]

I thought Soy swayed boy. I guess soy milk is different! I'm behind!! lol I had my hubby take calcium, magnesium, (like I did) and add cranberry. I couldn't take cranberry because I was nursing. Frequent release sways pink, so get him to do it as much as I'm getting mine to! :wink: Did you get a rock salt lamp?

I didn't get a rock lamp yet, but it's on my list!! :D I don't think soy sways boy, I think atomic wrote something about that in the myth foods article. I got cranberry for myself, but haven't been taking it yet. I'm going to order my personal plan tonight, so am very excited about what atomic has to say! And I will take the supps she recommends. About frequent release, I'm so confused. I though one attempt was best and not to FR? My husband really doesn't want to FR I'm sure! We're down to once a week now anyway, like i said earlier, our libido's are very low right now with everything going on. I have very short cycles, so I think I ovulate around day 8-10, maybe 11. So was thinking we BD on day 4, 8 and 12? Or maybe 5, 9 and 13? I do hope we don't miss my O like that though, as I didn't get pregnant when I did a 3 day cut off with conceiving Ds2. So maybe we should only Bd when O is obviously there? I don't use OPK's or temping, I would def forget that all the time! In the past I always got pregnant when we did it on the days I got EWCM, so want to try this again in september and hope for the best. But since I can't really pinpoint O, I'm not sure when DH should have his last release. Maybe I would just help him out on day 4 of my cycle, so it would be around 4-7 days from our attempt. Does that sound right? I do really hope to get pregnant in september, as I would LOVE a june baby and july and august are holidays and I don't think that's a fun time for a child to have a birthday as everyone would be away. My sister is from july and hardly anyone came to her birthday as they were always away. I'm from june and I always had loads of visitors, so would feel sad for baby if no one came. Oh I'm such a controll freak, I want to plan everything and want to consider everything aah! lol.

[Dana-Alicia]

If you need naps, I would take those naps!! :wink:

I was so upset this morning! Both my kids were in (pre)school, so I had 2,5 blissful hours to myself. 2,5 hours!! What to do with that time, what to do? I know, I'm taking a nap! As my kids woke me up 4 times last night, I really needed it. But noooo, my sister had to come and ruin it for me. First she phoned me ( I need to keep my phone on as school may call if something is up with the kids), to ask some stupid question I don't know. And then she rang the doorbell to ask another stupid question! Even though I told her I was sleeping grrr! She naps every freaking day, has no kid,s no job, she has all the time in the world to irritate the *bleep* out of me and she wakes me up in my sleepy time. Not amused at all. So happy I'm going to be moving soon, about an hour from my family. (sorry for the rant, I have a very bad relationship with my sister, she has borderline and obviously doesn't get it and stalks me a lot).

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Omg I'd snap crackle and POP!!
I want a June baby so bad too btw but my dang career choice nixed that. I should have stayed doing newborn photography. Fack.



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[atomic sagebrush]

Soy has been shown to lower fertility in men and we are using it to sway pink. The old school "soy sways boy" idea did not add up biologically because phytoestrogens (plant chemicals that mimic the action of estrogen) may actually disrupt female fertility as well. The jury is still out on soy for DW but I use it for DH all the time now and success rates ahve only gone up since I started to (not saying it's due to the soy, just that it doesn't seem to be swaying blue)

FR is not ok for everyone and our results have been so disappointing I hardly ever use it any more

[atomic sagebrush]

I was so upset this morning! Both my kids were in (pre)school, so I had 2,5 blissful hours to myself. 2,5 hours!! What to do with that time, what to do? I know, I'm taking a nap! As my kids woke me up 4 times last night, I really needed it. But noooo, my sister had to come and ruin it for me. First she phoned me ( I need to keep my phone on as school may call if something is up with the kids), to ask some stupid question I don't know. And then she rang the doorbell to ask another stupid question! Even though I told her I was sleeping grrr! She naps every freaking day, has no kid,s no job, she has all the time in the world to irritate the *bleep* out of me and she wakes me up in my sleepy time. Not amused at all. So happy I'm going to be moving soon, about an hour from my family. (sorry for the rant, I have a very bad relationship with my sister, she has borderline and obviously doesn't get it and stalks me a lot).

THat literally happens to me every single time I have tried to nap in like the past 11 years. It's honestly the main reason why I completely gave up on naps, because it never failed that something would happen the second I drifted off to sleep.

[atomic sagebrush]

No cranberry for DW please ladies.

Some gals use it and that is at their discretion, but it's not safe and has gotten identical results to the overall stts of the site indicating it is not doing anything beneficial anyway.

[Dana-Alicia]

Oh good to know cranberry not for DW! And yes, that's one of the reasons I don't take naps. I get so crabby when I get woken up! My kids do it, okay they're my kids, they can wake me up at night if need be. But NO people, do not wake me up. It's either the mailman, one of my sisters, some stupid telemarketing ad, someone who forget the house keys. Just leave me alone when I sleep. Do not wake me up, unless there's a fire. It's not a pretty sight, I may slap her next time! lol. No really, I might just for real!