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Threelittlemen2013
June 17th, 2015, 01:07 PM
With an indetectable amh level and high estrogen, should I still be doing the LE diet or switch to the fertility diet to help with egg quality?

djmommy
June 17th, 2015, 01:12 PM
Definitely switch to the Atomic Fertility Diet!! I have been doing it since October and I have low AMH. I am not really swaying much right no because I just want to get pregnant. I do not eat anything low fat or fat free. What was your level? Did they test FSH?

Threelittlemen2013
June 17th, 2015, 01:27 PM
My amh was .16. I had my fsh come back at 5.04, but my estrogen was 111 so it is probably supressed. I need to pick up some of the coq10 or whatever it is called! I have added in chicken, eggs, avocado, whole fat, etc. but wondered if it was best to switch over fully. I am not 100% certain on what the fertility diet includes so I need to read up on it more.

Do you count calories/limits on it? If I remember correctly you don't. The only swaying things I have kept are 1-2 attempts and exercise (and that is just for my sanity!).

djmommy
June 17th, 2015, 02:23 PM
Well my AMH was lower than that! I am taking coq10 as well. The diet is pretty simple. I try to eat no more than 60 g fat daily and have definitely limited protein and usually skip breakfast, only because I am so used to it now. But if I fall hungry in between, I eat and don't feel bad about it. I have been actually pretty slacking with the diet lately though. Been eating veggie burgers and veggie chicken patties because I ended up really liking them but need to add in chicken, egg and salmon. I was exercising and loved it but it is soooooo hot here I haven't been able to alone (without kids) this cycle and I can't do it fully for 60 min with them. How long have you been trying?
I am going on 18 cycles :(...so it is bound to happen soon!! It is definitely disheartening but I know a goldie has to come along soon!!!!

atomic sagebrush
June 17th, 2015, 03:04 PM
Number one factor of AMH - genetics

The issue I have with you on the alt diet is aren't you super thin, 3LM?? Can you DO the AFD and not lose any more weight???

I would certainly give it a try, it's been getting great results.

Threelittlemen2013
June 17th, 2015, 04:59 PM
I didn't realize the AFD diet caused weight loss too. I know I lost fast when I tried the pcos version back in february. I am just trying to maintiain and have been doing that by switching to whole grain bread, but sticking to white pasta/rice. I typically have 2 slices of bread and then 1 serving of either gluten free rice noodles or white bowtie pasta. I have been having 2-3 servings of chicken a week and 1 avocado a week to help with fat. I guess my main goal is a healthy egg, so I trust whatever Diet you think is best under my circumstances.

And I agree on it being genetics. When I found all this out in March, my mom told me early menopause runs in the family.

Threelittlemen2013
June 17th, 2015, 05:01 PM
Well my AMH was lower than that! I am taking coq10 as well. The diet is pretty simple. I try to eat no more than 60 g fat daily and have definitely limited protein and usually skip breakfast, only because I am so used to it now. But if I fall hungry in between, I eat and don't feel bad about it. I have been actually pretty slacking with the diet lately though. Been eating veggie burgers and veggie chicken patties because I ended up really liking them but need to add in chicken, egg and salmon. I was exercising and loved it but it is soooooo hot here I haven't been able to alone (without kids) this cycle and I can't do it fully for 60 min with them. How long have you been trying?
I am going on 18 cycles :(...so it is bound to happen soon!! It is definitely disheartening but I know a goldie has to come along soon!!!!

Only 6 months. Mnot horribly long, but it is also my 4th medicated. I have two more months on femara/time intercourse and then I think my ob will send me to a specialist to continue.

djmommy
June 17th, 2015, 05:20 PM
It is frustrating either way. Maybe there is a way you could incorporate the AFD and try to maintain as well. Atomic will steer you right! And as Atomic says, sometimes it is just patiently waiting for the Golden Egg, as hard as it is at times!

Threelittlemen2013
June 17th, 2015, 05:59 PM
It is frustrating either way. Maybe there is a way you could incorporate the AFD and try to maintain as well. Atomic will steer you right! And as Atomic says, sometimes it is just patiently waiting for the Golden Egg, as hard as it is at times!

I made the mistake of googling and all I saw were articles about amh causing miscarriages because of low quality eggs. It scared me into wondering if i was doing more harm than good. I just want to make sure I am doing what I can to get that golden egg here!

atomic sagebrush
June 17th, 2015, 06:41 PM
I didn't realize the AFD diet caused weight loss too. I know I lost fast when I tried the pcos version back in february. I am just trying to maintiain and have been doing that by switching to whole grain bread, but sticking to white pasta/rice. I typically have 2 slices of bread and then 1 serving of either gluten free rice noodles or white bowtie pasta. I have been having 2-3 servings of chicken a week and 1 avocado a week to help with fat. I guess my main goal is a healthy egg, so I trust whatever Diet you think is best under my circumstances.

And I agree on it being genetics. When I found all this out in March, my mom told me early menopause runs in the family.

That is the downside of it. I wish I could come up with some diet that is like a combo of these two but it doesn't seem to be how it works. the carbs are the key to both slowing /stopping weight loss and also the egg quality issue.

Can you go gluten free??? I think that may be one type of a middle ground.

atomic sagebrush
June 17th, 2015, 06:42 PM
I made the mistake of googling and all I saw were articles about amh causing miscarriages because of low quality eggs. It scared me into wondering if i was doing more harm than good. I just want to make sure I am doing what I can to get that golden egg here!

The vast majority of the time, though, if it goes long enough to get to the BFP, the eggs are fine. :) EVEN if she only shows up 3 times a year, Goldie is THERE and we just have to be ready to catch her. This can happen. ((((hugs))))

Threelittlemen2013
June 17th, 2015, 07:49 PM
That is the downside of it. I wish I could come up with some diet that is like a combo of these two but it doesn't seem to be how it works. the carbs are the key to both slowing /stopping weight loss and also the egg quality issue.

Can you go gluten free??? I think that may be one type of a middle ground.

I don't think I would last long on gluten free. :( I have curbed weight loss, but I really don't know that I can call it an le diet with adding in whole grains, chicken etc. Even though I am still hittIng my limits.

djmommy
June 17th, 2015, 08:37 PM
I actually did gluten free and it was easier than I thought. I do have pizza and bread on cheat days though.

XXforhubby
June 19th, 2015, 01:20 PM
I made the mistake of googling and all I saw were articles about amh causing miscarriages because of low quality eggs. It scared me into wondering if i was doing more harm than good. I just want to make sure I am doing what I can to get that golden egg here!

Don't let AMH levels scare you about miscarriages. My AMH levels were not even detectable before I conceived this baby, and I only had one chemical! Miscarriages are mainly due to chromosomal abnormalities and problems with the placenta. Remember half of these genes also come from sperm too and cannot be blamed on a woman's eggs solely [emoji6].


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atomic sagebrush
June 19th, 2015, 01:36 PM
I don't think I would last long on gluten free. :( I have curbed weight loss, but I really don't know that I can call it an le diet with adding in whole grains, chicken etc. Even though I am still hittIng my limits.

Remember though - we don't know WHY LE Diet sways and the whole grains, gluten are two of the biggest unknowns that I keep in the back of my mind that I possibly do not have right. Whole grains may sway pink, gluten free may sway pink for some people too - This is a huge gray area for me.

Threelittlemen2013
June 19th, 2015, 02:59 PM
Remember though - we don't know WHY LE Diet sways and the whole grains, gluten are two of the biggest unknowns that I keep in the back of my mind that I possibly do not have right. Whole grains may sway pink, gluten free may sway pink for some people too - This is a huge gray area for me.

That is why I think I am just going to continue to do what works for my lifestyle and pray it is enough for that egg to get here. I like my whole grain bread, white rice and my gluten free noodles. So I am going to keep the mindset that as long as I hit my limits no food is forbidden!

It is hard not to question your sway after so many bfns.

atomic sagebrush
June 20th, 2015, 02:42 PM
:agree: :cheer: :noaf:

djmommy
June 20th, 2015, 03:05 PM
That is why I think I am just going to continue to do what works for my lifestyle and pray it is enough for that egg to get here. I like my whole grain bread, white rice and my gluten free noodles. So I am going to keep the mindset that as long as I hit my limits no food is forbidden!

It is hard not to question your sway after so many bfns.

I think that is my mindset right now. I am not really "swaying" but trying to keep it "pink" friendly as much as I can. We have to do what works best for us!!
Good luck!! I hope this is your cycle!! FX!!