ttc a girl

[sassy86]

Hi all I have come over from ig there is a ton of info on the site but im now very confused,af is due tomorrow so after that I will be trying but im still unsure about keeping my ph low using the lime tampon rephresh etc, im going for the cut off method as the o+12 scares me. are any of you able to give some so tips on keeping ph low and if you used any of the products together. thank you xx

[ELP]

PH has been disproven to work sassy, over here people are mostly going with the low everything sway for girls through diet and limited supps, plus one attempt :) Luckily youve not attempted yet so have a read about and see whats working for people, I'll try and post some links :)

PH Pickle http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html

Low everything diet http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/16780-low-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html

The basic on blue and pink swaying http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/23540-nuts-bolts-swaying-library-basic-how-pink-blue.html

[sassy86]

thank you for your quick response ill have a read through, thank you again xx

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome to our site, Sassy.

What most of us are doing is either giving up on pH idea all together (so many of us got pH opposites that we have pretty much moved on without it and our success rates went UP when we did) OR use RepHresh every 3 days starting when AF ends, last dose 8, 12, or 24 hours before attempt, and then use Sylk or Acijel with attempt. No one is doing lime tampons as the odds of conception were terribly low with them and they're just a big crazy hassle that wasn't working anyway.

Cutoff is fine if you believe in it, again, so many of us have oodles of SHettles opposites so we have all but given it up. Just be sure you stick with only one attempt, as having one attempt has been a strong pink swayer for us (and is probably the sole reason why anyone ever really thought Shettles or O+12 even worked.)

DO NOT do O+12. It doesn't work and cuts odds of conception to nothing, regardless of what they tell you on other sites. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/35539-no-12-a.html

[sassy86]

Hi atomic,
thank you sooooo much for your response, your way seem a lot less stressful lol I just have a couple of questions if you don't mind, I havent been following the diet strictly as I hadn't heard of it before but I tend to skip breakfast any way and mainly drink raspberry tea, cranberry juice, milkshakes and diet coke, I don't tend to eat a lot of red meat, my diet usually consists of chicken, rice, pasta, salad bread, cheese, yoghurt and chocolate lol going by this do you still think I have a good chance? you say one attempt is that just one attempt between af and ovulation and if so when is the best time to do this attempt and should dh abstain for 7 days. also with the rephresh I will do it every 3 days and as we would be dtd in an evening should my last dose be that morning and then use acijel when dtd. Apologise for all the questions but im still a little bit unsure after reading all the info, probably because I am ttc this month
thank you again

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, you are eating the kinds of foods that are recommended by some of the sway diets. Personally I think it's more about the overall nutrient intake of your diet and not about the individual foods you are eating, but if you're ok with it people have had success with that style of diet.

One attempt in your fertile window, so some point between O-3 and O Day, have one attempt and that's all. Most of us have it on the day of positive OPK.

RepHresh, use your last dose either 8, 12, or 24 hours before. Closer may be pinker but lower odds conception. Most start out using Acijel 1-2 hours before BD or else as a lube for intercourse in addition to the Reph>

[Traci25]

what antihistamine would you recommend 2 hrs before TTC I have read a lot of different ones, from benedryl, zyrtec, Sudafed?

[atomic sagebrush]

2 hours before, use Benadryl.

Women shouldn't use Sudafed but you can give to your husband as long as he's under 40

[emma.2boys.ttcgirl]

Hi sassy.
I've been reading everything on this brilliant site for over a year and I now plan to put what I've learnt into action.
We will have one attempt on positive ov. I am thinking of taking a antihistamine an hour or so before we dtd. I've been following the LE diet loosely for about 4 months and I've had some success with weight loss.
I've decided against replens, lime tampons etc. so for me it's mainly the one attempt, LE diet and antihistamine.
I already have to gorgeous boys. Ds1 was conceived with multiple attempts and ds2 was 2attemps at ov. Didn't know anything about gender swaying then but I've always tracked my cycle.
Good luck to you x

[Princess Mom]

Hi sassy read read read! This site has a ton of info! It is amazing! I'm not ttc yet I still have 3 more pounds to lose them I will start trying. I been on the diet for about 2 months now. I cut out eating till about 12:30-1pm I'm just not hungry and now I am trying to cut out all meats. I believe in this site so much! Best of luck

[sassy86]

yes this is such a fab site and everyone is incredibly helpful, I hope you have a great sway emma. My DH isn't keen on abstaining :-( so he is doing frequent realise (by himself lol) every morning and then when it comes to DTD he is going to release and disregard first off before we BD I just hope that this works aswell as abstaining

[sassy86]

Hi Princess mom I notice you already have a DD do you think you did anything differently to when you conceived DS

[atomic sagebrush]

yes this is such a fab site and everyone is incredibly helpful, I hope you have a great sway emma. My DH isn't keen on abstaining :-( so he is doing frequent realise (by himself lol) every morning and then when it comes to DTD he is going to release and disregard first off before we BD I just hope that this works aswell as abstaining

abstaining not working very well anyway. Neither tactic is bringing home the bacon. Most important thing is sticking with one attempt!

[sassy86]

Hi, well I DTD yesterday evening DH had already released in the evening before we DTD (I don't think he knew we going to BD last ) I had my second flashing smiley face yesterday, it was our first and only attempt this month, a couple of things are concerning me.....I took Sudafed and so did DH I completely forgot that I should be taking Benadryl and also I have noticed a bit of EWCM today is there anything I can now to quickly to dry it up ?
thank you

[atomic sagebrush]

You are all good! Sending you a ton of pink dust!!!

[sassy86]

Thank you for your help atomic, I just have one more concern (sorry) I DTD on Monday night as my fertility monitor was flashing and then it normally I normally get a pos opk the day after, I was hoping to wait until Tuesday when I had a definite positive but I knew DH would be away, but my concern is I still haven't got a pos opk yet its still just flashing and my sticks aren't showing a dark line, Im worried to do bd again as I only wanted to do the one attempt but im worried that if its too far from ovulation I will be in boy territory, what do you think?

[essnce629]

Welcome Sassy!

Most current girl swayers here on Gender Dreaming are doing:

* LE diet for at least 12 weeks before attempt which is 1500-1800 calories, 40-50g protein, and 30-60g fat a day.
* Skipping breakfast.
* No snacking.
* Fiber supplement with meals.
* 60 minutes of cardio daily OR nothing at all.
* 1 attempt in fertile window (by BD every 4 days OR by BD once at +opk)
* Folic acid or folate only.
* Clomid if you can get it.
* Alcohol and caffeine daily.
* Olive leaf extract for DH.
* Licorice root for DH (only if under 35 years old with no blood pressure issues).

Most have stopped doing antihistamines, Rephresh/Replens/Sylk, jump and dump, PH stuff, saw palmetto, and even vitex as they don't seem to sway much and only make conception harder.

Good luck!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you for your help atomic, I just have one more concern (sorry) I DTD on Monday night as my fertility monitor was flashing and then it normally I normally get a pos opk the day after, I was hoping to wait until Tuesday when I had a definite positive but I knew DH would be away, but my concern is I still haven't got a pos opk yet its still just flashing and my sticks aren't showing a dark line, Im worried to do bd again as I only wanted to do the one attempt but im worried that if its too far from ovulation I will be in boy territory, what do you think?

There is no "boy territory" so don't worry about that.

YOu need to be in with an attempt that has a chance of conception. So I would have another one if you haven't gotten your positive yet.

[sassy86]

Hi I got my first pos on Wednesday evening so 2 days after my attempt so I left it at the one attpt and didn't bd again but hopefully that will be enough to get me bfp!!

[sgharrison]

Atomic,
Can you speak more about why to drop SP and vitex? I've just started my sway and have all of these supplements on hand. Can you speak more on this? I also saw somewhere that you no longer recommend Aspirin too? I guess a lot has changed in a year because all of these were recommended on my sway plan. I have to do an EGS because this is absolutely my last baby and I'm almost 38. DH is 48.

[atomic sagebrush]

Because the results that we have had in the subsequent time since you bought your plan have not been that high considering the trouble they cause with irregular ovulation and also that they seem to cut odds of conception quite a bit for moms over 35. They certainly don't sway BLUE if you want to use them. I took vitex when I got my DS 4 at 39 and then my DD at 41.

Re aspirin, the results were not that high and the risks according to new data indicated that it was much higher than we once thought. I also felt like we had totally proved cranberry ineffective and one of the primary resons I ever used aspirin was because so many people thought they had to take something to lower pH and if I didn't offer them a replacement for cranbery, everyone would have continued taking it and cranberry is really unsafe.

What do you mean by EGS?? extreme gender sway? WE are getting much better results with laid back sways focusing only on what works and dropping the stuff that doesn't.

When I make sway plans, I include things I don't personally agree with. It isn't "do things my way or else" it's your sway and I base my recommendations off what you included in your questionnaire and not "the way I personally would do things" Most want to start off including everything and then dropping things over time and so that is how I make the plans unless I am told otherwise.

[sassy86]

Hi af has arrived today bit down about it as I thought I had a few pg symptoms, oh well ill try again this month, can anyone help me on how I can improve my chanced this month my last sway was as follows:
used rephresh
dtd 1.5 days before pos opk (I ovulated later then usual this month)
DH did Fr as with ds we dtd every 3 days
we took recommended supps
took Sudafed an hour before
a few days before had used lime (before I knew that the lime was irrelevant)
jump and dumped

Dh has actually said he would abstain this month, I know you (atomic) has said that you don't need to do that but do you think it may help sway as my ds was conceived by bd every 3 days?
should I drop the supps?
is there anything else can think of?

[Dreamsplanner]

I would drop the rephresh, as from everything I read it does not seem to sway and does hinder conception...

[atomic sagebrush]

You can do one or all of these things or a combination (you don't have to do everything in one month, you can drop one thing at a time or you can drop everything.)

Drop RepH. or put it earlier before attempt

Drop FR and abstain both, having one attempt is still much different than DTD every 3 days.

What were the "recommended supps"

Sudafed for you or DH or both?

Lime a few days before wouldn't matter

extend J and D time to 5 minutes, or even 10-15

[sassy86]

the supplements were, cranberry and magnesium for us both and I also took folic acid

we both took Sudafed an hour before

ok ill make sure this time I extened j and d to at least 5 mins

there is a possibility that dh may be away with work for 8 or 9 days and will be back according to my dates a day before im due to get a pos opk, he doesn't think he will have the opportunity to release himself anyway, so there woud be an abstinence do you think this will be ok or should he release when he comes home the day before our attempt or is this something that we don't need to worry about( I was just concerned about old sperm)

once again thank you for your help

[atomic sagebrush]

I never recommend Sudafed for women anyway so certainly drop that.

I don't think cran is safe for women (and please ladies, never ever ever take cran and Sudafed together, not safe) although I don't think it inhibits conception

Having him release once after a long abstain doesn't get rid of the old sperm. I'd just go with the abstain batch.

[sassy86]

Ok I'll drop the cranberry and sudafed, sorry if TMI but I usually have quite a lot of cm would baby aspirin and Benadryl be ok or would you recommend dropping supplements altogether?
And I won't worry about having him release then, I'll just go with his abstained batch on the day I get my pos opk and just have one attempt

[atomic sagebrush]

Zyrtec and/or benadryl is better than Sudafed. :agree:

Baby aspirin doesn't dry up CM, it supposedly lowered pH but our results were mediocre at best and the side effects are so high that I have all but stopped using it except for people who insist. It's safer than cranberry (we think) but still not as safe as I'd like.

[sassy86]

Hi, I had a pos this morning but in not sure if it's the second day or first day of a pos as I didn't test yesterday so do you think I should dtd this evening or wait until next month when I know it's the first day of a pos opk or is timing really not that important?

[essnce629]

Hi, I had a pos this morning but in not sure if it's the second day or first day of a pos as I didn't test yesterday so do you think I should dtd this evening or wait until next month when I know it's the first day of a pos opk or is timing really not that important?

Have your attempt tonight!!!

The point of one attempt is to have one attempt in the fertile window, which is about a 4 day span. It doesn't matter if it's on the first day of +opk or the second, etc. You just need one attempt in your fertile window and most women ovulate 8-48 hours AFTER getting a +opk so you should BD tonight or you're just wasting another month. I tend to not O till 3 days after my first +opk, so for me, it's actually better to not BD on the first day of +opk, but to wait a day or two.

Good luck!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi, I had a pos this morning but in not sure if it's the second day or first day of a pos as I didn't test yesterday so do you think I should dtd this evening or wait until next month when I know it's the first day of a pos opk or is timing really not that important?

It's not timing that we are trying to accomplish with this method, it's just an easy way of having one attempt in your fertile window at a point in time that is good chances of conception.

For most people having attempt the night of pos OPK is a good chance of conception with one attempt.

[sassy86]

Hi all, Af came 3 days early which is strange as im usually very regular. Bit disappointed as I really thought I could be pregnant this month, any way I wondering whether to continue with the one attempt for a couple more months or up it to two attempts but im worried that I will lower my chances of conceiving a girl or is there anything else that you think I should be doing? (also he had abstained for about 13 days as he was working away Im wondering if this caused a problem)
thank you

[atomic sagebrush]

BEst odds of pink = one attempt.
Best odds of conception = more than one attempt.
Compromise = 2 attempts

I would drop every other sway tactic including abstain (of course your partner had no option there) before I added attempts, but you have to decide that for yourself of course!

[sassy86]

Hi all, I haven't been on here for a little while but I wanted to give you an update it turns out that when shortly after my last post I found out I was pregnant even thou I had periods but unfortunately we had a missed miscarriage which was very upsetting so we decided to put off trying until after Xmas xxx

[missiz]

so sorry to hear about the miscarriage, what a heartbreaking thing to go through. thinking of you xo

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh I'm so sorry to hear this, Sassy. Thinking of you. :heart:

[pinkfairydust]

Very sorry to hear this Sassy. Good luck after Christmas and have a nice break xx

Atomic- I read about you no longer advising cranberry. I'm interested in this as I get uti's and sometimes take cranberry.
Can I ask- have you found no evidence cranberry sways girl? Also why do you think it is dangerous to take cranberry for girl attempt.

Thanks so much in advance xxx

[atomic sagebrush]

I never really recommended cranberry. It's because it is a strong blood thinner and you have to stop it cold turkey at ovulation. So first it really thins your blood (which can be fatal) and then you stop it suddenly and that can mean your blood starts to clot TOO easily (which can also be fatal) http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/7086-how-lower-ph-via-supps-cran-baby-aspirin-aspartame-other-techniques.html For a while I was having people use baby aspirin instead because it's ok in very early pregnancy and so people can wean off it, but the risks and side effects turned out to be a lot more than we first thought and it didn't get great results anyway.

Occasionally if you have a UTI it is fine to take it for that reason. I am talking about people taking completely insane amounts of the stuff for months on end and then stopping it cold turkey at ovulation.

We tracked our results with cranberry and it was neutral. It doesn't even work anyway.

[sassy86]

thank you very much for your kind replies, af is here at the mo so we are due to start trying again in 2 weeks
x

[maidentomother]

sassy, so sorry about your MMC. I hope you get your rainbow THB girl soon.

Have you been doing the diet?

[sassy86]

Hi ya I have cut down a lot on the amount of nutrient intake but I haven't been as strict as I was last time as I feel I didn't want to put myself under too much pressure after having the mmc but im concerned that because I haven't been as strict my sway wont be as strong
x

[maidentomother]

I think a relaxed approach sounds great considering.

[atomic sagebrush]

thank you very much for your kind replies, af is here at the mo so we are due to start trying again in 2 weeks
x

good luck!!

[sassy86]

thank you we are quite keen to fall pregnant this month I still wanted to just have the one attempt but dh is insistent that we have 2 attempts do you think this will drastically lower the chances of conceiving a girl?

[honeybee37]

Sassy, I'm sorry for your loss. I hope you conceive this month.

I've just been reading this thread and I have been taking baby aspirin. Has all the stuff about PH been debunked now? Is there no need to bother with the aspirin? I have been taking folic acid, aspirin, Vitex and fibre... Thanks everyone.

[atomic sagebrush]

thank you we are quite keen to fall pregnant this month I still wanted to just have the one attempt but dh is insistent that we have 2 attempts do you think this will drastically lower the chances of conceiving a girl?

No, I'd have told you to add an attempt at this point.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sassy, I'm sorry for your loss. I hope you conceive this month.

I've just been reading this thread and I have been taking baby aspirin. Has all the stuff about PH been debunked now? Is there no need to bother with the aspirin? I have been taking folic acid, aspirin, Vitex and fibre... Thanks everyone.

Here is the thing. I can't take on the whole entire Internet and there is SO MUCH pro-pH stuff out there that I can't change the world in one fell swoop, and since aspirin is safer than cranberry (for DW to take) I continue to leave the info up as it is for people who are totally sold on it. BUT I personally do not believe in pH (getting a boy with pH of 4.5 will do that) and both cranberry and aspirin had more risks and side effects than I like, so I don't reecomend them for the population as a whole.
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html

[sassy86]

Thank you atomic and would you do the two attempts on two consecutive days or would you leave a day or two to do the second attempt
Thank you

[atomic sagebrush]

I would have you do every 4 days (no matter what days these are, just have unprotected sex eveyr 4 days) and then an additional attempt the day before O is due or at positive OPK.

[maidentomother]

I personally recommend every 3 days to maximise/balance both pink sway and conception odds. I think E4D + attempt at positive OPK has too much potential risk to sway blue.

[sassy86]

Thank you although the problem is my husband is away until Sunday night and will have abstained for 8 days as he has been away, I'm due to get a pod opk on Monday/Tuesday so should I have him release on his own first or just have 1st attempt Sunday eve and 2nd attempt on Monday evening?
Thank you

[mydaughter]

Hey Sassy, I havn't been online for quite a while because I experienced the same sad thing you did! I just wanted to wish you all the best of luck, hoping the next month is your month with a sticky little pink one!:pinksperm:

[mydaughter]

and I might be wrong but if you expect the +OPK on monday/tuesday, so you are due to ovulate on wednesday/thursday
I would recomment monday and then thursday maybe?
So you are very safe in the fertile window with both attemps, and don't need a 3rd attempt on the day of pos. OPK?

[sassy86]

Hi thank you for your response in sorry you went through the same thing I wish you lots of luck for next time. It's difficult isn't it to know what to do when I conceived ds we were dtd every 3/4 days, I would of been happy to stick to one attempt but dh wants to add an attempt I'm just concerned that as he has abstained that when we do our second attempt we are going more into a boy sway, I'm wondering whether to use the first batch but maybe before we have our second attempt have him release and dump that batch or is that more boy friendly I'm just really unsure what to do.

[atomic sagebrush]

I personally recommend every 3 days to maximise/balance both pink sway and conception odds. I think E4D + attempt at positive OPK has too much potential risk to sway blue.

I personally do not think that e3d has enough assistance in the conception department (you could easily end up with an attempt days before O that yields nothing at "go time") and hence stick by my e4d plus one recommendation.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you although the problem is my husband is away until Sunday night and will have abstained for 8 days as he has been away, I'm due to get a pod opk on Monday/Tuesday so should I have him release on his own first or just have 1st attempt Sunday eve and 2nd attempt on Monday evening?
Thank you

First attempt as soon as he gets back, second attempt at positive OPK whenver it may be.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi thank you for your response in sorry you went through the same thing I wish you lots of luck for next time. It's difficult isn't it to know what to do when I conceived ds we were dtd every 3/4 days, I would of been happy to stick to one attempt but dh wants to add an attempt I'm just concerned that as he has abstained that when we do our second attempt we are going more into a boy sway, I'm wondering whether to use the first batch but maybe before we have our second attempt have him release and dump that batch or is that more boy friendly I'm just really unsure what to do.

Don't have him release and dump it, it's just going to cut odds of conception. We still get quite good resuts with two attempts, it's really not so much of a compromise as you might think.

[sassy86]

Thank you again for your very helpful response so going by previous months I will get my first positive opk on Tuesday so going by that I will bd Monday evening and Tuesday should I do any more or leave it at that?
Thank you so much

[atomic sagebrush]

No I'd leave it at that.

[sassy86]

Hi all just a little update, dtd on Monday evening after 9 days abstaining (not planned but hubby was working away) and then got my first pos opk on Tuesday at 2.30
So dtd again that evening, so I can't do anymore now I just hope it's enough i had a couple of concerns....dtd 2 nights in a row I know that's not great for pink but dh was insistent that we give it two goes especially after having a mc I'm October. Also I still had quite a bit of ewcm even after antihistamines and Benadryl ���� I hope I'm still in with a good chance of a pink sway.

[sharon]

goodluck sassy

[sassy86]

Hi all an update I got a bfp yesterday so very pleased althou very anxious after having a mmc a few months ago
Here is my away I will add it this evening on the spreadsheet
I was taking folic acid as my only supplement
I took Benadryl and hour before dtd and dh took Sudafed
We dtd the day before a pos opk (after abstaining due to dh being away)
And dtd the day of pos opk
Diet: skipped breakfast
Omlet for lunch at midday
Diner was mainly just chicken and rice
My diet was the complete opposite of what it was when I conceived ds as we were in the USA and I was having breakfast lunch and dinner and not cutting down at all with my portion size

I really hope I have done enough to sway for a dd

[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck sassy!

[sassy86]

Thank you, just for fun I tried all the home gender predictions......urine ph, baking soda, eye test and they have all pointed to a boy I hope they are all wrong ����

[atomic sagebrush]

Those don't work!!! I had all the "girl tests" and "girl symptoms" in the universe with my 3rd pregnancy and he is the most boyinest boy who ever boyed. It's fine if you can do them for fun and keep in mind it is meaningless, but I feel like it messes with people's heads too much. I didn't even have a gender preference when I got pregnant and then all those dang tests and symptoms made me totally convinced he was a she. Then when I found out it was like "she" who never even existed, had been taken away and replaced by "he" who was of course there all along. :p

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh, are you a spammer? Is that what's going on here? Spammers are banned. I am not yet sure if you're a spammer or not, so I'll leave this up in case you're just trying to help by posting a link (elonva is a legitimate medication) but be warned that spam isn't tolerated and is grounds for being banned.

[sassy86]

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Thanks Atomic that's reassuring we had a scan to check everything when I was 8.5 weeks I have added a pic

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh sweet baby!!! I don't guess gender at this stage but what a sweetie pie!

[sassy86]

No I thought it would be too early at this age, I ales the ultra sound lady if that was a boy nub that I saw but she said they all the same at this stage it's too early to tell, but thank you

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes the penis hasn't even begun to grow and boys nd girls are identical. :)

[foxymrsg]

Congratulations!!

[sassy86]

Thank you, I'm praying for pink so fingers crossed

[sassy86]

Hi here is my scan pic at 12.5 weeks hoping for a girly nub :-) 3092630926

[atomic sagebrush]

It does look girly but is earlier than I like to hang my hat on. Baby is also a little more curled up than I like. Cutie pie!

[sassy86]

Thank you for your reply I don't really know what I'm looking for haha but that's good that at the moment it looks girly

[sassy86]

also not sure if it makes any difference to the theory but just worked my dates and im 13 weeks tomorrow not 12 and a half weeks

[atomic sagebrush]

I still like IN the 13th week and baby is curly so I'll reserve judgement for now BUT I will say it's better than seeing a dingdong like some of us do at 12 weeks LOL!!! ;)

[sassy86]

Hi ya just an update went to see the midwife today all seems well we got to hear the heartbeat which was lovely it was much faster than my ds and sounded like a horse galloping where as my ds sounded exactly like a train, I'm not reading too much into this thou as it is just a theory

[atomic sagebrush]

It's not even that as heartbeat's been debunked for all pregnancy except 1 week before delivery. :)

Can't wait for an update!

[sassy86]

Exactly, a lot of my friends have got my hopes up a little by saying their baby's heartbeat sounded like a galloping horse and they had girls but I'm trying not to build my hopes up based on that as I know the heartbeat isn't always true

[sassy86]

Hi we have had the scan it's a boy

[atomic sagebrush]

how are you doing, sassy??

[sassy86]

Hi ya I have felt quite upset about it today but I can't change it I just have to look forward to his arrival I went a bought him a couple of outfits which made me feel a bit better, and dh husband has agreed to try for dc3 so I'm going to try everything and get the plan from you this time to follow.....
This was my last away after the mmc, would you mind seeing if there was something I could of maybe changed
Dh had abstained for about 10 days due to being away so we dtd on the mine day evening very shallow release no big o and jump and dump and the following afternoon I got a pos opk so we tried once more that evening dh released outside of me before we dtd so I think we were lucky to full pregnant as I didn't think there was any sperm left, he had a 1 or 2 ciders every evening our diet manly consisted of eggs, chicken, rice no salad or vegetables or fruit but we did have a few cheat days as we wanted it to be a bit more laid back after our mmc in November
I'm not sure if we swayed correctly maybe next time I should try a cut off as both my boys were conceived round ovulation
I'd like to thank you again atomic for all your support

[atomic sagebrush]

Eggs, chicken, and no vegetables are really much more of an IG type sway and not so much LE so that is one thing I'd change up a bit to possibly stick in the limits for protein, fat, and cals and be getting a majority of protein and fat from vegetable sources, not animal.

I would have just one attempt next time, dropping the shallow release in order to up odds of conception with the one attempt.

Timing doesn't sway, it can certainly be something you could try if you felt like it, just be sure it's 2-3 day cutoff and no longer than that.

Wishing you every joy with your new little man!

[sassy86]

Thank you for your reply atomic ok great I'll get the plan from you and go by that, may j ask what is the reason you wouldn't do any longer than a 3 day cut off? With my first ds we bd I guess every 3/4 days and this one I had two attempts one before pos opk and one eve of pos opk

[atomic sagebrush]

Because the odds of conception are very poor and it doesn't sway anyway. So you end up going on month after month not conceiving, and then either you waste away to nothing on diet and end up stopping ovulation and have to practically sway blue via diet just to get it going again, and/or people panic and start doing everything in their power just to get pregnant (again which is often a blue-ish sway) and get opposites. It is much better to focus on doing the stuff that actually works - LE Diet longer than 12 weeks plus fiber, coffee, and alcohol if you want, cardio exercise 60 min 6-7 days a week, one attempt in fertile window and get pregnant within 3-6 months tops instead of chasing things that do not work at all and only cut odds of conception to practically nothing. :)

[sassy86]

Ok thank you for all your advise, we are going to try again in about 18 months so it will be our last so I really wanna do everything I can for a dd when would you reccomend me purchasing the plan off of you?

[sassy86]

Also do you think 1 attempt is better than frequent bd everyday from af, just a bit concerned as with ds1 we only had one attempt in my fertile window but looking back my diet wasn't great
Thanks again

[atomic sagebrush]

yes, I think one attempt or every four days is miles better than BD every day thru O. I do not ever recommend anyone try that method.

I do think that buying a plan helps alleviate the "control-freakiness" that can undermine otherwise good sways but I would never have the temerity to recommend anyone purchase one!! LOL. If you think it will help, but I just feel weird about recommending things that I profit off of. :)

[sassy86]

Lol, I do want to give it my best shot and really understand more about my diet so I think it definitely may help me by purchasing the plan :-) I feel like I need to spend more time reading through and understand it all. Would I need to go complete vegetarian or can I eat meat as long as it's under the calorie intake? How long before I start trying would you reccomend me getting the plan and what does it include?

[sassy86]

Its so hard this diet thing lol near enough all of my friends have at least 1 girl and all eat really similar things (not massively healthy) althou they are quite slim they mainly eat prawns, mince meat, cakes, pies, sandwiches etc I guess they are just very lucky they don't have to do anything and they get girls arghh lol one of them has 6 girls and she has a terrible diet and drinks probably a glass of vodka and coke most evening and her dh has quite a few bottles of beer althou they don't eat great they certainly don't over eat which is probably why they are still quite slim

[sassy86]

Oh and they all love pasta lol

[atomic sagebrush]

Lol, I do want to give it my best shot and really understand more about my diet so I think it definitely may help me by purchasing the plan :-) I feel like I need to spend more time reading through and understand it all. Would I need to go complete vegetarian or can I eat meat as long as it's under the calorie intake? How long before I start trying would you reccomend me getting the plan and what does it include?

Most people like to get a plan 3 months before they plan to TTC - that gives us 3 months of lead time and then 3 months of swaying (since the plan comes with 6 months' coaching) or you can buy it sooner, or later -totally up to you.

Most people do choose to go vegetarian for a couple different reasons, it may be a slightly better sway and it's also easier to stick to diet if you do. But meat is not forbidden, you can have it now and then if you like and for a cheat. It just makes it REALLY hard to stick to diet when you load up on chicken and immediately go over your protein limits for the day with only a small piece!! then what do you eat the rest of the day?

Plans come with the plan and 6 months of coaching. We have add ons like helpful books and a 21 day diet plan you can add if you want to, but you don't have to.

[atomic sagebrush]

Its so hard this diet thing lol near enough all of my friends have at least 1 girl and all eat really similar things (not massively healthy) althou they are quite slim they mainly eat prawns, mince meat, cakes, pies, sandwiches etc I guess they are just very lucky they don't have to do anything and they get girls arghh lol one of them has 6 girls and she has a terrible diet and drinks probably a glass of vodka and coke most evening and her dh has quite a few bottles of beer althou they don't eat great they certainly don't over eat which is probably why they are still quite slim

Alcohol and a poor diet can sway pink. Sweets and diet coke = girls!! Prawns are also something we use on the pink diet quite a bit. :)

[sassy86]

Thank you so much for your help I'll purchase it a little bit sooner if that's ok so it gives me plenty of time to go through it and I'll definitely get the meal plan as I feel ill need it lol

[sassy86]

In concerned dh won't go completely vegetarian he probably wouldn't mind a couple of days a week having meat free dinners but not all week do you think that might be a problem

[sassy86]

Also does quorn meat count as veggie meals

[atomic sagebrush]

In concerned dh won't go completely vegetarian he probably wouldn't mind a couple of days a week having meat free dinners but not all week do you think that might be a problem

Hubbies do not have to do the full LE Diet. Since it's your body that has to carry a baby for 9 months and feed them for at least 9 more (in nature anyway) it is your diet that matters, not so much hubby's. :)

Any changes he's willing to make will only help. Most of our husbands would not do one single thing to help sway and we still get girls (including mine!)

[atomic sagebrush]

Also does quorn meat count as veggie meals

:agree: yes!

[sassy86]

Ok thank you he is willing to do the diet a bit and cut out things he shouldn't be eating is there anything else he can do to lower his sperm count or lower his testorone, I think he can afford to lower his a perm count as we seem to be very fertile lol, each pregnancy including the mc we have fallen pregnant very first time

[atomic sagebrush]

It's kinda tough for me to advise without the sway plan because I have guys do all kinds of different things and take a lot of stuff into consideration when I make those recommendations.

[sassy86]

Ok no problem we can maybe go into more detail once we sort the plan out, I'll probably get it shortly after this one is born so if gives me plenty of time to look at it and do everything we can

[sassy86]

Hi all I hope eveyone is doing ok, I havent been on here for almpst 3 years, we will be starting to try for another baby in thr next couple of months we will be swaying for a girl

[atomic sagebrush]

Welcome back! Let me know how I can help!

[sassy86]

Hey....thank you so much it's nice to be back �� I have had a little looks through and all the info seems the same so low everything diet amd 1 attempt are there anymore details I should know
Thank you
X

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes we had it pretty dialed in from when you were swaying and not much has changed.

Also, exercise cardio 60 min. a day, 4-7 days a week, Clomid or Femara if you can get them.

For hubby, jogging, biking, and smoking have been shown in studies to sway pink. Olive Leaf Extract and soymilk may help for him as well.

[sassy86]

Thanks atomic, I better start doing some exercising then, hubby hasnt been to the gym in 2 nonths but when he does go he tends to do weights is this something he should stop? Also has anything changed regarding alcohol should he be having a beer each night? Thank you

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks atomic, I better start doing some exercising then, hubby hasnt been to the gym in 2 nonths but when he does go he tends to do weights is this something he should stop? Also has anything changed regarding alcohol should he be having a beer each night? Thank you

No we have found the weights matter for DW not so much for DH (in fact, a lot of the manly men gym rats have all girls, much to their dismay LOL)

Alcohol for you is better proven than for DH but we operate under the assumption that DH drinking also sways pink. My husband was drinking the most with our girl than with any of our boys.

[atomic sagebrush]

Newbie. Worried i may have accidently made a third boy.
We werent ttc and i thought i ovulated the day before we dtd. Eggwhite mucus wed then glue that evening. Egg white again thursday. Friday dry no egg white. Dtd in the evening of Friday. 1 to 2 days after mucus indicated O. So fri night was Cycle day 11 and we had sex. After we did, i orgasmed first, i laid down on my tummy for a while then inserted some preseed for good measure. Not thinking about swaying or that i could even get prego since past O. Then 9dpo prego. Any idea is 0+12 plus preseed after orgasm could lead to a girl? Any respose would be appreciated pretty please
Thank you!!

Huge congrats!!

I don't think you got pregnant from O+12. I suspect you hadn't ovulated yet. I understand what the claims people make about EWCM consistency, but many many of us have noticed that our CM dries up a day or even two before O happens, or continues on for a couple days after O, and we're also finding that many of us have CM for up to a week regularly prior to ovulation and it comes and goes - some days it's abundant, other days it's barely there or is creamy/sticky. Obviously you know this now but I would NEVER take a chance on having sex CD 11 on the basis of your CM unless you want to be pregnant.

In addition to our experiences, studies found that CM could predict the day of ovulation only one in three times (which is barely better than random chance since most women are only fertile 3-4 days a month, give or take a day). It's good technique for getting pregnant or avoiding pregnancy, but it just cannot pin down the day you ovulate. (you are supposed to wait three days with the Billings method for contraception, not one or two days, or this very reason, and if you use it in the future be sure you wait 3 days after return of BIP and not only 1 or 2.)

So to answer your question about how this may have swayed, we have not found timing to work at all and it's been totally debunked. Most of us on here, myself included, have 2-3-4 or more timing opposites. So just set that aside, timing cannot have affected gender in any way. If you had one attempt in the fertile window, that sways pink, so that could help (not a magic bullet, but it does help)

We assume Preseed sways a little blue. Again, no magic bullet though.

Laying down after intercourse may sway a little blue. But I got a girl after 4 boys laying flat all night!

Orgasm is said to sway blue, but honestly it's never been studied. I had one when I got my girl.

So there are things that may sway blue and things that may sway pink. What I do know is this, even if you were doing a total blue sway, we still get opposites with both pink and blue sways about 30% of the time so you always have a decent chance of pink.

Good luck and pink dust headed your way!

[sassy86]

Thanks again Atomic for the great advice, how strict is it that I should exercise is it better to do it everyday or not at all
Thanks

[sassy86]

Sorry a couple more things I wanted to check, should I be drinking a lot of water also are there any foods I ahould avoid and also dh has a protein shake every day should he stop this?

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks again Atomic for the great advice, how strict is it that I should exercise is it better to do it everyday or not at all
Thanks

We've had good luck with 4 or more days a week. I would try for 60 minutes.

NO you should not be drinking any extra water than you normally do. Please just drink to your thirst. People have made themselves ill changing their diet and then adding tons of water intake on top of that.

What's in the protein shake.

[sassy86]

Hi......its called overnight recovery blend......whey, calcium egg white powder

[sassy86]

Cocoa powder, sweetener, l-glutamine

[atomic sagebrush]

That's not terrible, it isn't heavily fortified with vitamins although it does have extra zinc. I probably wouldn't bother making a fuss over it if he's happy with it.

[sassy86]

Thank you, I just feel nervous as we will be trying the end of November and I just feel like I'm nit doing enough

[atomic sagebrush]

Everyone always feels that way!! Surprisingly, I find that the people who are doing 9 zillion things to sway and nailing them all perfectly actually have the most opposites, probably because they are or have to become mega control freaks to pull it all off. Try to keep in mind that all the people walking around out there on Planet Earth, the vast majority of them have at least one girl without doing any of this stuff deliberately, without thinking they're even doing anything any different than they did any other day. It is not necessary (and in fact may undermine your sway hugely by keeping swaying in the forefront of your mind every day) to go on for months miserable eating nothing but rice cakes and craisins, with limes clutched in your fists doing vaginal perimeter checks every 15 minutes to get a girl! It can't be because no one else is doing that stuff. It's just little changes over the course of time that works!!

[sassy86]

You are right, great advice thank you.....do you still reccomend 1 attempt on o day, I fell pregnant with both my boys on ovulation day so do you think it's worth mayve a couple of days before or do you think that it doesnt make much difference?
Thank you

[atomic sagebrush]

Timing doesn't sway. Most of us on here (myself included) have timing opposites. But it's fine if you want to do O-1 or O-2 instead...because trying on O Day is actually lower odds of conception than O-1 and O-2!!! So feel free to DTD on the day before you expect to O or 2 days before. Or better yet use OPK and have an attempt at the first positive OPK which will be an average of 36 hours before ovulation.

[sassy86]

Excellent, once again thabk you very much for replying

[sassy86]

I stuggljng at the moment to try and fit the exercise I'm o ly managing about 2/3 days a week is it best to keep doing it or juat stop it altogether, I also drink alot of coke zero is that something I should cut out

[atomic sagebrush]

Exercise has gotten such good results that I would continue and then just try to get to 4 days a week as often as you can.

I prefer you guys keep artificially sweetened drinks to 2-3 a day just for safety's sake when TTC.

[sassy86]

Ok so if I ran 30 mins 4 days a week would that be ok, I'm hoping to conceive end of November and also my dh hasnt been to the gym for a couple of weeks should he start going again
Thank you

[sassy86]

Would 60 mins of walking be ok as I could easily do that as I take my ds to the park everyday or does it need to be more intense?

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok so if I ran 30 mins 4 days a week would that be ok, I'm hoping to conceive end of November and also my dh hasnt been to the gym for a couple of weeks should he start going again
Thank you

I would rather see you walk 60 minutes than run 30. Walking is fine, it's great, I actually prefer it because people get injured when running.

The rules for hubby and exercise are different. Jogging and biking have been shown in studies to sway pink so if he can do that, great. As for going to the gym, we don't have that much data on that. We aren't sure. We have seen anecdotally a lot of gym rats who have all girls, but many of them are taking harmful supplements that may affect outcomes. So if he hasn't been lifting weights, and he wants to go back to it, that's fine, but I would probably not push him to go back to it if he doesn't want to. Jogging and biking for him, though, absoltuely by all means.

[sassy86]

Thank you very much for your help once again, I think i am starting to really over think all of this which is getting me quite stressed we will be ttc next month so this is our sway I hope it's ok
I will walk 60 mins 4/5 times a week
DH may not go back to the gym but if he does it will only be to run on treadmill
Dh will cut out his protein shake
I will carry on skipping breakfast, will limoy my tea to maybe 2 cups a day (should I cut out morning tea?)
Lunch will consist of low sodium bread or rice cakes
Dinner will just be low meat but lots of rice or pasta instead
Coke zero amd water
Folic acid
I attempt a first positive opk or the day before

I'm trying to not get too obsessed with all the supements as I tried that last time and it didnt seem to work for me

I hope this sounds ok
Thank you

[sassy86]

Do you think licorace rpot and olive leaf would help Dh and also replens for me?

[atomic sagebrush]

If you can stand giving up tea I would. We have found tea to be blue friendly. I got all four of my boys with tea (I love tea) and switched to coffee when I got my girl

Are you eating anything other than low sodium bread and rice cakes for lunch?

ARe you tracking nutrients at all?? I want to be sure you're getting enough fat and protein.

Most of the supplements did nothing and we've dropped them anyway.

I think yo're on the right track, please don't stress at all, you're doing great!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Do you think licorace rpot and olive leaf would help Dh and also replens for me?

No licorice root, we had perfectly terrible results with it and I've dropped it for most people.

OLE for DH may help, although I am not convinced it does anything (and our results seem to show it's neutral)

REplens - doesn't work and may really cut odds of conception, I only use it now for people who can't stand to live without it.

[sassy86]

Thank you again for taking the time to respond with lots pf helpful info it's very much appreciated. I will drop the tea as I drank that a lot when I had my boys, I actually tried coffee and really couldnt drink so decided to leave it out, would hot chocolate drink be ok if not I'll stick to water and diet coke?
I am tracking with my fitness pal, I am getting enough fat, protein etc with my dinner choices as I actually havent actually changed that too much I just add more carbs, I'm just struggling lunch choices I may start having wraps or soups I hope this is ok? I ate a lot of eggs with my first two boys so I have cut that out, are cereals boy friendly as I'm not sure whether to avoid that or not?
Dh is drinking beer most evenings (something he didnt do with my boys)
Is there anything else that may help?

[sassy86]

Also does Ky jelly help at all?

[renee_1992]

Hello I'm new here, I have 3 boys and I really want to try for a girl. I'm not quite ready to start (I'm probably going to try for another year) I'm just getting all the information I can. My last boy I skipped breakfast, drunk lots of coffee and I was vegan for 3 months prior. When we dtd I think it was a few days before ovulation.

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[sassy86]

Also does it help if DH drinks peppermint tea?

[atomic sagebrush]

Hot chocolate is fine with a meal but since most of them have quite a bit of calories I'd not have it in the morning (or if you do, count it as a meal if it has more than 50 cals)

Is the My Fitness Pal counting the protein and fat in fruit and veg?? We don't count those (and low carb veg are free and unlimited, don't count them at all). If it is, you may need to adjust to compensate since you'll have to eat a bit more food to be sure you're getting enough.

Wraps and soups are ok. Anything within limits is fine.

Yes, we believe breakfast cereals are blue friendly due to the high amount of added nutrients.

If you give me specific questions it's better for me - I just can't remember what all we've talked about and what I"ve covered already (so I can't tell you if we're leaving anything out!!)

KY Jelly may sway a little pink by killing sperm but it also cuts odds of conception.

[atomic sagebrush]

Also does it help if DH drinks peppermint tea?

I have really backed off these type of things as none of them seemed to work and all cut odds of conception.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hello I'm new here, I have 3 boys and I really want to try for a girl. I'm not quite ready to start (I'm probably going to try for another year) I'm just getting all the information I can. My last boy I skipped breakfast, drunk lots of coffee and I was vegan for 3 months prior. When we dtd I think it was a few days before ovulation.

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HI and welcome! If you start a new thread you'll get more responses. You do this by going to the main forum page and clicking open a forum (just to make it easier, here's a link to our TTC a girl forum https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/) and then you'll see the option to start your own thread. That's the part people miss, you actually have to open the forum to start a new thread.

I would still have you do much the same - skip breakfast, drink coffee, but I'd suggest trying one of our alternate diets rather than going full vegan and you can read about those here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/9052-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-3-pcos.html (even though this is a PCOS thread, this diet is good for lots of people including anyone who had a sway opposite. The alternate diets are a few from the top.

[sassy86]

Ok so can I just confirm its
1200-1500 calories
30-60 grams fat
40-50grams protein
2500-3500 potsssium

And if I have a some icecream or a low fat yoghurt or some sweets (as long as its within my daily limits) should I be having tjat with my meal and not as a snack inbetween?

[sassy86]

Would it help my sway if dh released on his own 2 hours before our 1 attempt?

[atomic sagebrush]

Very few people should be tht low in calories (only about 1-3% of all pink swayers). Most are on 1500-1800, and a large minority (more like 20%) are on 1800-2000 or even beyond that.

Anyone with PCOS should also up the protein and fat macros to 50-60 g and have whole grains and full fat dairy only, no sugar.

Don't count the protein and fat in fruit and veg and don't count the calories in low carb vegetables, they are free and unlimited.

Yes, you need to have things with calories (more than say 25-50 cals, like the amount in a cup of coffee with milk or cream) with meals. No ice cream, yogurt, or sweets between meals.

Re hubby release, meh. We have speculated about it possibly swaying pink, but what happened to most of the people who tried it was that either they didn't get pregnant (bad) or their husband couldn't even go again! (worse) So people were missing months and it was adding a tremendous amount of conflict and control-freakish stress in addition to pissing off husbands. I think it's more trouble than it's worth, especially since it's not proven to be worth anything!

[sassy86]

Ok great I'll up my calorie intake slightly and if I decide to have aweet things I'll nake sire I have them with my meals
I wont bother with frequent release for DH I'll leave him to do his thing (so to speak)
I was always a little worried about frequent release as QE qere doing frequent release with my pregnancy I had before my last ds which ended in a miscarriage i know it probably wasnt anything to do qith that bit it always made me a little worried

[sassy86]

Can I just ask a question about skipping breakfast, is it more about the amount of hours between each meal or more of just skipping breakfast as I have my dinner at around 5pm each evening so os it still ok to skip breakfast the next day or ahould I be eating before 12pm?

[atomic sagebrush]

The frequent release should only make for fresh healthy sperm, but yes I'm totally over all those frequency patterns, they haven't worked, cut odds of conception and really just make everyone miserable! We have good results with letting him "do what he does".

Skipping breakfast is the amount of hours. If you eat dinner early, it's fine for you to eat breakfast sooner. We're aiming at 12-16 hours overnight and that varies by individual as to what works for them. there is no magic to eating at a certain hour, it's the length of time you go without food coming in that matters.

[sassy86]

Ok great, I have been reading alot today om this forum and there have been some good reaults lately I'm still a little unsure whether to having 2 or 3 meals or does it not matter as long as I stay in my limit and not snack, I'm really struggling not having a cup of tea in the morning as I really dont like coffee do you think 1 cup of tea a day will hurt my sway I really dont mind stopping it if it will help

[sassy86]

Is caffeine free diet coke better than diet coke

[atomic sagebrush]

Both 2 and 3 meals are equally acceptable. Most people have three meals and it's actually my preference (people eating only 2x a day are more likley to mess up ovulation).

I got all four of my boys with tea, and gave it up to get my girl. Is it a magic bullet, no (otherwise there'd be no girls born in countries that drink a lot of tea!) but I have seen a definite trend where the women who continued with tea had more opposites. That may be a coincidence, as in maybe they weren't that motivated overall and didn't change other things, but that coupled with my experience I do suggest you give it up if you can bear it.

Caffeine is fine so you can have whatever diet coke you prefer. I have an explanation of why the claims they make on other sites about caffeine are not true here: https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/56791-vices-swaying.html

[sassy86]

Thank you again for answeing my questions (sorry I know there has been a lot) ok I will give it up all together, I'm trying next month so it isnt for long, hubby hasnt been to the gym layely I'm worried this may hurt my sway as he naturally seema to have high testosterone so I'm worried he isnt running it off to try and lower it

[sassy86]

Are energy drinks eg; red bull ok to drink?
Also my dh had a conversation the other day with his barber qho also said that swayed for a girl after two boys and it worked he was taking olive leaf extract so now my dh wants to try it I know you said not to worry about it so should I let him take it or tell him not to bother?

[atomic sagebrush]

We don't know if going to the gym for husbands is good or bad for pink sways. A lot of people worry the opposite - their husband goes to the gym and they worry it will raise testosterone. WE just don't know.

Why did I tell you guys not to do the OLE?? I had a reason, let me go back and look.

[atomic sagebrush]

No licorice root, we had perfectly terrible results with it and I've dropped it for most people.

OLE for DH may help, although I am not convinced it does anything (and our results seem to show it's neutral)

REplens - doesn't work and may really cut odds of conception, I only use it now for people who can't stand to live without it.

You guys can use OLE if you want, I just don't think it does anything

[sassy86]

Thank you very much again for your help

[sassy86]

With regards to alcohol for dh would beer be better than spirits or does it not make a difference?

[sassy86]

Would it help if I took fibre gunmies

[atomic sagebrush]

With regards to alcohol for dh would beer be better than spirits or does it not make a difference?

We have no evidence that anything is better than any other thing so have what you prefer.

Re fiber gummies, if you want to and you're not losing too much weight, you can have one with any meal containing fat or fat soluble vitamins like A, D, E, K (usually these will be with fat, but some people take them with leafy greens or skim dairy as well)

[sassy86]

Thank you so I will have one more month then I will dtd

[sassy86]

I have had a long look today on here at the sort of food people were eatung on the girl diet as I was finding that I wasnt eating enough the kind of thing I have been eating are: rice, some chicken, plain pasta, toast, water and low fat yoghurts.
So after having a look I have been shopping this evening and bought the following:
Fajita kits, beans, pop tarts, wraps, hummus, cucumber, quorn, low fat bolognese sauce, diet coke, potatoe (so oocasionally I can have baled potatoes with low fat cheese) lettuce, Mexican rice
Please let me know if their is anything on there that I probably shouldnt eat?

[atomic sagebrush]

There are no forbidden foods on LE Diet. All those foods are fine and lots of us, myself very much included ate those things on LE Diet.. But you do need to be careful you are eating ENOUGH fat! This is not meant to be a diet where you eat as little as possible, you need to continue to get enough fat (not to mention protein and calories) to continue ovulating and to get and stay pregnant. Have you ever tracked your nutrient intake to be sure you're getting enough??

[Baby286]

Hi Atomic,
I just want to check something with me re my plan.
You have recommended tdt one day before ovulation which we will do.
I'm not 100% on the following thought. You said to tdt every 72 hours after sex. So tdt again 72 hours after first attempt even if I'm sure I have ovulated?
Many thanks, B

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[sassy86]

Hi am using my fitness pal and I wasnt actually eating enough qhich is why I probably felt sluggish bit I spent a few hours on this forum earlier and realised I didnt need to eat such bland foods I was eating everything plain and not allowing myself to eat anything that I really enjoyed, i looked back at my sway last time and realised i was drinking a lot of tea amd also probably 2 eggs a day so I'm adding in a few treats that i like as long as om in my limits and not snacking at all

[sassy86]

Do you still agree that frequent release or abstaining doesnt matter too much or should I still add it into my sway

[sassy86]

DH is starting his olive leaf extract today should he also take licorace root with it?

[atomic sagebrush]

We have given up on LR except for the handful of people who truly feel they won't be able to live if they don't include it. While on paper it ~should~ sway pink, we have had dreadful results of only about 38% success with it.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi Atomic,
I just want to check something with me re my plan.
You have recommended tdt one day before ovulation which we will do.
I'm not 100% on the following thought. You said to tdt every 72 hours after sex. So tdt again 72 hours after first attempt even if I'm sure I have ovulated?
Many thanks, B

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Yes every 72 hours even after you think you've ovulated (exception being if you had your ovulation confirmed by bloodtest or ultrasound)

You would be amazed how many people think they ovulated and didn't. Even highly trained experts such as myself can get it wrong. One month I ended up going to the doctor for a pregnancy test after an amazingly realistic false ovulation. I hadn't ovulated!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi am using my fitness pal and I wasnt actually eating enough qhich is why I probably felt sluggish bit I spent a few hours on this forum earlier and realised I didnt need to eat such bland foods I was eating everything plain and not allowing myself to eat anything that I really enjoyed, i looked back at my sway last time and realised i was drinking a lot of tea amd also probably 2 eggs a day so I'm adding in a few treats that i like as long as om in my limits and not snacking at all

:agree: ok great! Yes be sure to keep eating enough and have a variety, as it makes it much easier to stick to diet and continues giving your body enough nutrients to get and stay pregnant.

[atomic sagebrush]

Do you still agree that frequent release or abstaining doesnt matter too much or should I still add it into my sway

Neither works and both cut odds of cocneption hugely and add a lot of control freak stress. Up to you but I would personally skip them (and did when I got my DD since my husband would not have done either of them anyway!)

[Baby286]

Yes every 72 hours even after you think you've ovulated (exception being if you had your ovulation confirmed by bloodtest or ultrasound)

You would be amazed how many people think they ovulated and didn't. Even highly trained experts such as myself can get it wrong. One month I ended up going to the doctor for a pregnancy test after an amazingly realistic false ovulation. I hadn't ovulated!

Thanks Atomic.


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[sassy86]

Thank you very much for your advice once again. I explained to DH that we don't need to worry about licorace root but he said he doesnt mind taking it amd trying it for just one month just to see if it helps sway but is this safe to do so with the OLE if not I will tell him not to bother?

[Baby286]

Hi Atomic,

Do you believe ttc -1/-2 days before ovulation makes a big difference?


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[sassy86]

Looking over the info you have already given I think I might tell dh to leave out the licorace root if it its not helping and just do OLE, I was really torn whether to do it or not, we prevoius prenancies including the miscarriage we conceived straight away

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you very much for your advice once again. I explained to DH that we don't need to worry about licorace root but he said he doesnt mind taking it amd trying it for just one month just to see if it helps sway but is this safe to do so with the OLE if not I will tell him not to bother?

PLEASE DO NOT GIVE HIM LICORICE ROOT.

Our results with licorice root were HORRIBLE. The majority of people who took it had BOYS.

PLEASE DO NOT GIVE HIM LICORICE ROOT.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi Atomic,

Do you believe ttc -1/-2 days before ovulation makes a big difference?


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Timing doesn't sway. https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html The only reason we aim at O-1 is because it's a good day to conceive with one attempt and it coincides with the positive OPK (so it's easy to know when to have that one attempt.)

[sassy86]

Ok I have just made him cancel his order on amazon for licorice root, I'll just have him take OLE is the dosage the same as what you have reccomend on previous posts or has it changed?

[sassy86]

Are we getting good results with OLE

[sassy86]

I'm am really on the fence when he comes to OLE as I have seen some great results but I'm also worried its adding extra vitamins with DH amd being harmful to our sway

[atomic sagebrush]

Are we getting good results with OLE

it has 71% which is barely better than the overall success rates of the site. I personally think it's completely neutral, it doesn't help or hurt a sway. Use at your discretion.

[atomic sagebrush]

Are we getting good results with OLE

it has 71% which is barely better than the overall success rates of the site. I personally think it's completely neutral, it doesn't help or hurt a sway. Use at your discretion.

[sassy86]

Thank you, Dh hasnt been to the gym in sbout two months now but ge has said he could start running on the treadmill every night but as we are trying in 3 weeks would it make any difference or should he just not bother?

[atomic sagebrush]

I would have him do it if he's willing. We don't know how long it would take to fully kick in but it can't hurt.

[sassy86]

Excellent thank you
I think I'm on the right track I'm managing to stay within my limits food wise and just trying to not be so restrictive as with my last sway I really was only eating chicken, eggs amd rice perhaps that's where I was going wrong I didnt have any potatoes at all either last time but I am reading all the info everyday which is really helping and using my fitness pal to track fat, protein and calories I couldnt believe how much protein is in chicken and eggs, i have also cut right down on diet coke as i had so much of it on my last two boys as well of lots of tea. I now have 1 cke zero a day amd I just drink water qith maybe a little squash the rest of the day with 1 glass of qine with my dinner, im also walking for 60 mins 4/5 days a week. DH is taking OLE and has switched to vodka and lemonade instead of beer (I hope the lemonade is ok) and we will have 1 attempt the day before positive opk......I'm praying this is all ok as I feel so nervous about it all

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes please don't be too restrictive, there's no need for it and I truly believe it undermines your sway by making you think about swaying constantly to stick with it. That sort of control-freakishness and constant dedication sways blue in a big way when you have to stay strong every minute just to keep from cheating.

:agree: yes when I was back on Ingender, before I'd done any of this research, I kept seeing people eating tons of chicken, eggs, and full fat dairy and getting boys and then people would be like "this is because you didn't do ions" LOL. At the same time the people eating more carbs and veg were getting girls even without all that other stuff.

Did I explain already about potatoes?? If not here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/62533-le-diet-faq-2-mineral-madness-edition.html

I think beer is fine for DH but lemonade is also fine.

Everything else is looking great!

[sassy86]

Great thank you, I have just opened the link and it was a great read very interesting, I read somewhere on this site that gin and tonic was a good drink and there is something in tonic that sways pink, is this still the case as dh and I willl often drink gin and slim line tonic
Also Dh has been drinking a cup of peppermint tea each day aswell

[atomic sagebrush]

Meh, I seriously doubt that does anything, your choice. We've had good results with alcohol on the whole.

I really haven't been using the pep tea any more but it's your choice.

[sassy86]

Oh ok so could peppermint tea possibly harm our sway

[sassy86]

Also I'm worried we have messed up the sway as dh jasnt been able to hardly any running lately as he has been qorling 12 hour days and is just to tired to work out at all

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh ok so could peppermint tea possibly harm our sway

We don't have the data to say. We just don't know.

[atomic sagebrush]

Also I'm worried we have messed up the sway as dh jasnt been able to hardly any running lately as he has been qorling 12 hour days and is just to tired to work out at all

If he's working that much that would likely sway pink anyway.

[sassy86]

Ok thank you, I'll tell him to leave out peppermint tea then. Dh has said he can start next week when work settles bit that qill only be 2 weeks before my away I'm concerned that if he starts it will cause a temporary increase in testosterone

[sassy86]

Sorry for all the questions

[sassy86]

Also how important is it that DH drinks alcohlol?

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok thank you, I'll tell him to leave out peppermint tea then. Dh has said he can start next week when work settles bit that qill only be 2 weeks before my away I'm concerned that if he starts it will cause a temporary increase in testosterone

While we once worried that could be possible exercise ahs gotten such good results we no longer worry about that. Have him go for it.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry for all the questions

I'm happy to answer questions, unlimited, for everyone, but of course I do sell Dream Memberships and stuff like that as a way to say thank you, if you're ever so motivated! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Also how important is it that DH drinks alcohlol?

Again, we don't know. If it's not something he's comfy with feel free to skip it.

[sassy86]

Yes I'm very happy to buy thay as I really appreciate all of your help and advice :happy

[sassy86]

So as we have only got 2/3 weeks until we ovulate you would still say for DH ro start running pr should we juat delay ttc for a few months to give him more time (although I doubt DH would want to do that as its taken me a year to persuade him to have another dc) he is happy to drink alcohol most evenings I kidt wanted to be sure that was a swaying factor for pink

[sassy86]

Sorry so many typo errors, I'm trying to type whilst sorting the kids out lol

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I'm very happy to buy thay as I really appreciate all of your help and advice :happy

either way, I'll still answer all your questions! Thanks for considering it, though

[atomic sagebrush]

So as we have only got 2/3 weeks until we ovulate you would still say for DH ro start running pr should we juat delay ttc for a few months to give him more time (although I doubt DH would want to do that as its taken me a year to persuade him to have another dc) he is happy to drink alcohol most evenings I kidt wanted to be sure that was a swaying factor for pink

No it's fine, have him go ahead and start running. Remember the cardinal rule of swaying - if daddy ain't happy, ain't nobody happy...do what it takes to keep hubby on board and willing to TTC!

We got our girl with my husband drinking alcohol and our boys without it. That's been true for several people on here. we don't have the data to know for sure but that's what we assume.

[sassy86]

Ok great I'll try and get him out running although it's quite tricky with his shifts at at the moment, do we know why running is helping DH to sway pink

[sassy86]

Also how do I purchase the dream membership it's the least I can do for all your help

[sassy86]

DH has just got in from work amd he doesnt think he can fit in the exercise due to work shifts, its sooooo annoying as when we conceiving our boys he was constantly at the gym amd now when I need him to he cant commit he said he is happy to do everything else........drink alcohol, 1 attempt, ole, I'm just getting anxious as I ovulate in 2.5 weeks I really wanted him to start running..

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok great I'll try and get him out running although it's quite tricky with his shifts at at the moment, do we know why running is helping DH to sway pink

No, we don't really know, but it's one of the better proven things - unlike most of this stuff, it was shown in a pretty good study to work. We speculate it's due to heat and pressure but we don't truly know.

To order a Dream Membership it's all here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/payments.php Thanks again for considering it!!

[sassy86]

Do you have to pay by PayPal?

[atomic sagebrush]

DH has just got in from work amd he doesnt think he can fit in the exercise due to work shifts, its sooooo annoying as when we conceiving our boys he was constantly at the gym amd now when I need him to he cant commit he said he is happy to do everything else........drink alcohol, 1 attempt, ole, I'm just getting anxious as I ovulate in 2.5 weeks I really wanted him to start running..

Hey, it is what it is! If he's unable to do that, it's ok, just chalk it up to one of those uncontrollable things and let it go! For all we know this is the universe's way of helping your sway!

[atomic sagebrush]

Do you have to pay by PayPal?

I think you do but you don't have to have an account to do it. I can message nuthinbutpink to help, she knows way more about the process than I do.

[sassy86]

You never know.....maybe, if he can do 2/3 times would that help or not really do anything? If it's to do with heat would it hell sitting with a hot water bottle each night? I'll try again with the PayPal

[sassy86]

I have managed to do it via PayPal

[sassy86]

Dh and I were talking last night amd I really want him to run if he could squeeze it in how often should he run? We have our attempt in 2.5 weeks, I have also been waking 5 days a week.

If it isnt possible for him will sitting with a beer and hot water bottle every evening help?

[atomic sagebrush]

I have managed to do it via PayPal

Thank you so much!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Dh and I were talking last night amd I really want him to run if he could squeeze it in how often should he run? We have our attempt in 2.5 weeks, I have also been waking 5 days a week.

If it isnt possible for him will sitting with a beer and hot water bottle every evening help?

Any running would help. More is better but anything helps.

I have mixed feelings on the heating testicles. Unlike the running, it hasn't been proven in a study to sway and it also may really cut odds of conception to nothing. It's your call to make, of course, but I prefer to err on the side of recommending things that scientists have tested over things they haven't (even if they do probably do the same thing, we just can't know for sure)

[sassy86]

Ok thank you for advising us, he will try and squeeze runnung in but if he really cant then perhaps heating is an option for us

[sassy86]

So it wont hurt our sway then if DH manges to run only 3 times a week between now and our attempt which is only 2.5 weeks aaway, I dont want his testosterone raising anymore lol

[sassy86]

I'm getting so stressed out about dh running which I know is no good for my sway, would you mind if I started another thread/post and ask to see if tge ladies that conceived dd whether their Dh did any form of cardio and just see whatcthe outcome is it may help me to feel better about my sway?
Thank you

[atomic sagebrush]

So it wont hurt our sway then if DH manges to run only 3 times a week between now and our attempt which is only 2.5 weeks aaway, I dont want his testosterone raising anymore lol

I can't tell you if it helps or hurts your sway (my crystal ball is in the shop this week, sadly) but here is what I DO know. a)testosterone does not rise after a couple rounds of exercise b) testosterone has never been shown to sway anyway, not even in women, but especially not in men and c) a good study showed running sways pink. Personally I would have him do the running.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm getting so stressed out about dh running which I know is no good for my sway, would you mind if I started another thread/post and ask to see if tge ladies that conceived dd whether their Dh did any form of cardio and just see whatcthe outcome is it may help me to feel better about my sway?
Thank you

Yes, that's fine. You can always start new threads, you don't need to ask me first! Start away.

I really think you're stressing out over things that are not important and feeling control freakish about stuff like this (especially when you set up a confrontation/power struggle with DH over it) very likely sways blue far more than the running matters anyway. I strongly suggest just letting this go and focusing on things that aren't making DH do stuff he doesn't want to do.

[sassy86]

Ok thank you that has actually made me feel a little better, I'll start another thread and see what the oucome is.
I really think I need to chill out about I think I'm overthinking it all.

[sassy86]

Dh has just bought organic premium ground flaxseed a natural source of omega 3 is this ok to put on his porridge everyday will it help our sway?

[atomic sagebrush]

Dh has just bought organic premium ground flaxseed a natural source of omega 3 is this ok to put on his porridge everyday will it help our sway?

We don't totally know (I really do not have the ability to test these things as I'd like) but we assume it would sway pink for DH due to the phytoestrogens. But at the same time, we also believe Omega 3 may sway blue by improving sperm count. We just don't know for sure.

But YOU MUST NOT EAT flaxseed or take flax supplements in anything more than the barest dietary amounts 2-3 times per week, small servings, absolute maximum. This is because flaxseed has been shown to be harmful during pregnancy and we don't know how long the effects last. Some sites say phytoestrogens even sway blue - i personally have my doubts about this, but most people do wish to avoid anything that's ever been said to sway blue (not to mention the safety element, which is really important for everyone NOT to eat flaxseed when TTC or pregnant)

[sassy86]

I wouldn't be eaten but thank you for letting me know I didnt realise that, oh that's a tricky one I dont know whether to get him to have it or not would you say maybe it's best to avoid then

[atomic sagebrush]

I wouldn't give it to my husband. I can't say for sure and when I can't say, I generally have people stay away.

[sassy86]

Ok I'll nake sure he doesnt eat it, is there anything else he can have for breakfast as I know porridge isnt very pink friendly

[atomic sagebrush]

Most of these things are for YOU, sassy. It is our bodies that have to grow a baby for the better part of 10 months, give birth, nurse, and then most of the time chidren stay with their mothers til they're adults. Males, on the other hand, can do a "hit and run" where they are basically a sperm donor, so evolution/God has made diet very important for DW and not so much DH. I think it's fine if he eats porridge (honestly, it's very unlikely porridge even matters for ladies, as it really requires supplemental amounts of highly concentrated avenocasides to raise testosterone and we're not even sure testosterone matters for swaying anyway)

He can have anything he wants for breakfast. There's no limits on DH's food. If he wanted to skip breakfast cereal and maybe not have steak and eggs, yeah maybe but I don't think anyone's sway rose or fell on their husband's breakfast. :)

[sassy86]

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[sassy86]

Hi I have just come across this and know I'm concerned I mat have veen doing it wrong, so is it not good to eat protein with carbs or sugar together or is it ok if you stay within the limits

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi I have just come across this and know I'm concerned I mat have veen doing it wrong, so is it not good to eat protein with carbs or sugar together or is it ok if you stay within the limits

That advice is meant for BLUE swayers, not pink. Blue swayers MUST eat protein and carbs at meals and snacks since they don't want their blood sugar to drop ever. Pink swayers are fine to eat protein and carbs (and in fact, there's no way to avoid it since you wouldn't be able to get in enough calories every day). The HE and LE Diets are very different in lots of ways and so what works for blue swayers is NOT the opposite of what will work for pink. Pink swayers are already eating in patterns that will lower their blood sugar and do not need to worry about protein and carbs.

PLEASE PLEASE, pink swayers, DO NOT try to eat only protein or only carbs at meals. It is not necessary, is another control freakish thing to worry about, and makes it way, way harder to stick to the LE Diet in the longer term.

[sassy86]

Ah brilliant ...thank God I thought I had it sorted and then I was thinking oh no I have been doing it wrong haha

[sassy86]

Hi, I have lost 7lb in 2 weeks I'm just a little bit concerned that if I lose too much more I wont ovulate I'm due to dtd the week after next 1 day before I ovulate, iam sticking within my limits and eating enough calories I have also been trying to walk for an hour everyday if possible do you think i should maybe stop the walking?

[atomic sagebrush]

You need to eat more calories (and you can up protein and fat slightly to compensate) and continue walking. Don't stop walking, eat more.

[sassy86]

Ok thank you I'll try that

[sassy86]

Is Baileys ok to drink or has that got too many calories for an alcoholic drink when swaying pink

[atomic sagebrush]

It's fine with a meal, I'd not have it between meals since it's pretty sugary.

[Thirdtimelucky01]

What about a glass of wine? Can I have one in between my meals or in the evening?


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[sassy86]

Hi I'm due my attempt in 3/4 days would rephresh or replens be better and also which lube is better acti jel or Ky jelly I have a feeling I used acti with my last ds

[atomic sagebrush]

What about a glass of wine? Can I have one in between my meals or in the evening?


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it's best to have it with a meal, but this is a cheat a lot of us myself included had.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi I'm due my attempt in 3/4 days would rephresh or replens be better and also which lube is better acti jel or Ky jelly I have a feeling I used acti with my last ds

None of the jellies work. I prefer RepHresh to keep pH balanced over time (Replens doesn't do that) and then Acijel is supposedly magical for pink (but we got the same number of girls and boys while using it, same as all the jellies did.) I do think KY is a good option and it's likely a better lube. Your call.

[sassy86]

Ok so ill give rephresh and repleans a miss and just use a little ky jelly
Thank you

[sassy86]

So I dtd last night at 10pm uk time it was 1 attempt after dh amhad released that morning and we used a little ky jelly he also had a lot of alcohol as we had been at a party i wanted to do a 2/3 cut off as I conceivedmy boys on ovulation day I wasnt due to ovulate until Wednesday but I got a positive opk today at 3pm and now I'm feeling anxious about it

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, that's still a 2-3 day cutoff! You BD yesterday, got an opk today, you'll ovulate about 24-36 hours after first positive OPK, that's going to be 2-3 days before ovulation occurs.

OPK does NOT signify ovulation. It tells you that you WILL ovulate in 1-2 days' time after the first positive.

[sassy86]

I have also got a little ewcm, I just hope I dont have to rely to much on the cut off part of the sway

[sassy86]

Thank you for your reaponse I feel a little better about it

[FallonEllis]

Yes every 72 hours even after you think you've ovulated (exception being if you had your ovulation confirmed by bloodtest or ultrasound)

You would be amazed how many people think they ovulated and didn't. Even highly trained experts such as myself can get it wrong. One month I ended up going to the doctor for a pregnancy test after an amazingly realistic false ovulation. I hadn't ovulated!

This advice even for a girl sway?


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[sassy86]

I did another opk test this morning and there was only a faint line but I have been also testing with a clear blue digital for 3 days and have still not recieved a smiley face so I have no idea whats going on with my ovulation

[atomic sagebrush]

I have also got a little ewcm, I just hope I dont have to rely to much on the cut off part of the sway

You don't need to rely on it at all, I promise it does not work. I got my girl right around ovulation after getting 3 of 4 boys (and possibly all 4, the other was a sneak attack). No matter what it is not something to rely on. https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html

[atomic sagebrush]

This advice even for a girl sway?


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Everyone in this thread is swaying pink I believe so all the advice will be for pink sways.

Yes, the every 4 day method (both in the every 72 and every 96 hour pattern) is for pink sway.

Timing doesn't work. It doesn't sway, and has been completely and totally debunked as thoroughly as it's possible for something to BE debunked. https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html So we have dropped timing (of course, you guys can always do that if you want to) but it's really the one attempt that sways for reasons we don't know. And having unprotected sex every 72 hours, and especially every 96 hours, ends up to always be one attempt in the fertile window, effortlessly, without having to futz around with tracking your cycle (which doesn't work anyway since cycles change when swaying and even when not swaying LOL) or even doing OPK if you don't want to. I do generally advise having people start off with one attempt at positive OPK first, but e4d has gotten great results for us so far so it's definitely a viable option. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

I did another opk test this morning and there was only a faint line but I have been also testing with a clear blue digital for 3 days and have still not recieved a smiley face so I have no idea whats going on with my ovulation

It is probably just delayed so I'd have another attempt 72 hours after your last one (or 96 hours after if 72 makes you too nervous) and keep going with that til you ovulate.

If you're taking fiber, drop it. And if you're eating very low fat you need to up that - may want to try adding in a serving of full fat dairy every day and 4-6 eggs a week.

[sassy86]

Thank you very much for your advice again, I think I just need to chill out and not worry about having a cut off but just focus on the 1 attempt I'm sure there are lots of women who had a cuy off and still had a boy and also I'm sure lots of women comceived a girl on ovulation

[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: when scientists went back using Dr. Shettes OWN data, and accurately pinpointed ovulation based on temperatures instead of cycle days using modern knowhow, they found 50-50 boys and girls conceived every cycle day. It just doesn't work!

[sassy86]

Is it possible to to get ewcm before you ovulate, I dtd the day I got ewcm but the opk test was still negative?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes many of us get EWCM for even a week before ovulation. It's totally normal to have EWCM for days in advance of O.

[sassy86]

Thank you, I think I'm going to give up with clear blue I have one more stick which I'll use tonorrow morning. I jave tested every day since last Friday (cd9) and still no smiley face yet I had a positive opk on Monday at 3pm along with some ewcm and what felt like ovulation pain and since then the line has got fainter and fainter but I cant understand why clear blue hasn't picked anything up yet unless I just really havent ovulated yet

[Pinkangel80]

Hi! Apologies for sending you private message, I didn’t realise before I had read the bottom of your page. thank you for reading message. I have been reading lots of your posts. I currently have a little boy who I adore but have suffered post natal depression. I’m absolutely desperate for a girl but also terrified to try again. When I became pregnant with my boy, I was off the pill for at least 7months, always had a relatively good diet. I’m very slim, and also teach dance. I used opk strips and saw a faint line and dtd....only once! Then fell pregnant with a boy!

2.5yrs later, I’m thinking of trying again but worries sick! My hubby is desperate for another child but does not know my sincere desire for a girl. My cycles have always been irregular since coming off pill again - have been off pill since June. I bought ‘OvuSense’ product to track my cycles and so far, cycle 1 no detection of ovulation, cycle 2 ovulated on day 19 and cycle 3, ovulated day 28!! Absolutely no rhyme or reason. Thought I ovulated round about day 19 - day 21??

I purchased the Shettles method book and have been looking at that. I have been having supplements like calcium citrate, cranberry tablets, folic acid and chaste berry. I’ve also been drinking more milk etc but still keeping a low diet.

I’m petrified to do anything.....I was going to stay on LE DIET and dtd on day 11/12 so that the girl sperm may reach by day 19...if that makes sense. If doesn’t happen, then increase days. can you advise me if I’m along the right lines??

Thank you so much. Xx[/QUOTE]

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you, I think I'm going to give up with clear blue I have one more stick which I'll use tonorrow morning. I jave tested every day since last Friday (cd9) and still no smiley face yet I had a positive opk on Monday at 3pm along with some ewcm and what felt like ovulation pain and since then the line has got fainter and fainter but I cant understand why clear blue hasn't picked anything up yet unless I just really havent ovulated yet

For some people the Clearblues work great, for others they get better results with the standard OPK. I would have you go to every 4 day method now (and for better chance of pink you could do this in the 96 hour time frame) in case you didn't actually ovulate after all.