TWW October (part 2)

[ImmiNAddi]

Congrats Netti!! Let's hope that's the start of a BFP landslide now :wink:

3dpo today and I'm starving.... Surely if this is my last ttc attempt I can mostly ditch the LE diet now? If I'm pregs then the sex of the bean has already been decided right? I'm not going to go crazy and eat everything in sight but I can relax things a little yeah? Thoughts........?

[Pbn3]

Absolutely immi! Eat away I say :)

[ImmiNAddi]

Absolutely immi! Eat away I say :)

Haha!! Great! Thanks. It's not so much the amount I want to eat, it's more the times, I'm not able to hold out as long inbetween meals :wink:

[Pbn3]

How's your chart looking? Ff gave me crosshairs this morning. It's weird but I'm not sitting on the edge of my seat this time so to speak, think I'm already convinced its not going to happen not that I'm not desperately hoping it will lol. When will you start testing?http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/25/bff1989f4a092ab02b422f86d7a2d2a8.jpg

[Pbn3]

Woohoo netti looking good


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Hi magical! How is the ivf going?

[ImmiNAddi]

How's your chart looking? Ff gave me crosshairs this morning. It's weird but I'm not sitting on the edge of my seat this time so to speak, think I'm already convinced its not going to happen not that I'm not desperately hoping it will lol. When will you start testing?http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/25/bff1989f4a092ab02b422f86d7a2d2a8.jpg

I have had the same temp for 3 days, 36.8, have not had that before, bit strange...
I will try and hold out til 9dpo, that's when I hit a good line last time :wink:
I'm kind of feeling weird about it all, I think I will be happy with a bfn and scared of a BFP now! Lol

When will you test?

[Pbn3]

Probably at 7dpo [emoji23] I just cant help myself!

[Poptart32]

I'm 6dpo today! Quinn how's your chart looking??

Netti im so happy for you! And wow it happened quickly!

I have been awful on this diet! I literally mess up all the time put weight on then lose it then put it on ive yo-yo'd massively! Quite scared its gonna affect my sway!! I can't help it though because in the back of my mind I know it's gonna take ages to conceive like DS2.. I would go insane if I did LE that long! X if I thought I'd fall within a few months Id be much stricter but my will power is awful!


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[Pbn3]

Poptart I cant wait till you test! How's your chart looking?

[Poptart32]

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Good atm! However at 7-8dpo that's when my temps tend to start dropping to just above cover line then nosedive before AF! So far so good! X


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[Foxcubblue]

Wohoo Netti, many congrats!!!!!

Immi, definitely eat to your hearts content!!! I usually have a little relax in the 2ww on diet anyway but actually find it quite hard to break from what I have become used to - I find myself craving v8 and all the things I used to love (white pasta, cheese, sweet things) just don't appeal! Damn this diet!

Well, my body has officially gone crazy. I had a strong positive opk on Thursday (despite my cm having dried up by then) and lots of cramping on sat, but my temp for the last two mornings has remained low. I have just taken it today and it has jumped up a bit, but only after I took a few readings (the first was that exact same low temp again, and the two after were the higher temp, so I inputed that). Can anyone look at my chart? I am praying and praying that I am not having an anovulatory cycle, but I haven't had one before so I'm not quite sure what to expect. Mentally I'm not doing well at all :hair:

[Poptart32]

Let's have a look foxcub! X


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[Foxcubblue]

There's a link in my signature, not sure how to paste it in? V jealous of your lovely, early ovulation, poptart!!! Chart is looking good!x

[Poptart32]

I just looked on your profile and I see a signature there but not on here? And there's not an accessible link on your profile. I see you're from the UK too [emoji4][emoji137] Can you screen shot and post it? X


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[Foxcubblue]

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Let's see if this works! Weird about my signature, will have to look into that! Do you see no signature at all?

[Poptart32]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/26/e8c55cf6db11ed62dc9a74415cbf0719.jpg

This is what I see.

Hmmm I agree that looks crazy! The jump today looks good.. If it was a jump, but as you say you had been wriggling around etc. how long are your cycles normally? If im honest.. If you had tweaked today's temp making it higher, making it inaccurate Id say you'd not ovulated yet. If that was an accurate temp Id be positive about it. Do you ever ovulate late? X


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[Poptart32]

Keep doing OPK's.. You may have geared up to O and it didn't happen but may do soon x


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[Foxcubblue]

This is pretty late for me, pre-miscarriage (3 months ago) I ovulated around day 18, although last month it was also day 25. I took the three temp in very quick succession, just moving to repress the button each time. Will be getting a new bbt anyway though as have realised that although this one claims to be a bbt and reads to 2dp it has a number of fixed readings that it gives and never gives anything in between! I read in Fahrenheit and it jumps from 97.33 to 97.45 to 97.60 to 97.73 etc - I've even watched it doing this in the mirror!!! Grrrr.

Thanks for looking poptart, will get to work on that signature as I see something totally different!

[Poptart32]

That's ok, do you see mine?


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[Foxcubblue]

Yes! That said I can only see mine on website, if I use tapatalk I don't see it...


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[Poptart32]

Ok, maybe try adding it to your signature on Tapatalk then? That's what I did I don't use anything but my phone to go on here.

I don't know what to suggest RE your cycle.. Progesterone bloods? Or maybe you are still out of sync following your MC (sorry to hear that btw) fingers crossed you level out again, otherwise see your GP X


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[ImmiNAddi]

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Let's see if this works! Weird about my signature, will have to look into that! Do you see no signature at all?

Fox, I see your sig and it took me to your chart :wink:
Can you keep BD'ing (seen as though you are swaying blue anyways) incase you haven't ovulated yet?

[Foxcubblue]

Thanks immi - yes, we will, and will keep doing opks, but I just feel completely infertile now (no cm, def negative on opks, cervix closed up when it was open before). Also don't know whether to restart all my usual pre-ovulation supps or whether I shouldn't in case I have somehow already ovulated! Very confused!!!

[Pbn3]

That is confusing foxclubblue!! Also think you may need a new bbt - have your temps always had such minor fluctuations? Will be interesting to see what your temp does tomorrow morning! I too cant see your signature link on my phone?

Looking good poptart and fx for no drop tomorrow! I keep forgetting your link is in your signature lol.

Hopper did af end up showing?

[Foxcubblue]

I know, weird right? Will be purchasing one today!

[netti02]

Eat away immi i certainly have today 😂

Thanks poptart. With my past pregnancies they have actually been pretty quick. So its taken a little while than what we're used to this time. I actually changed things this time because I think i have a retroverted ? Tilted uterus? Plus ive jumped the gun with the opks i really waited this time rather than seeing the positive and going for it. I can be impatient but my dh is worse than me when it comes to ttc. We've been very fortunate that is has gone this way for us. And i also struggle with the diet too, try not to stress xx and your chart looks great.

Foxcubblue not sure about your chart but doesn't look like you've O yet. you've got attempts in so your covered

Love your chart pbn xxx

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[Poptart32]

How did you change things netti? As I have a tilted uterus too! I was always told it made no difference but I thought to myself I bet it does (ever the optimist [emoji23]) xx


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[netti02]

I don't think missionary was cutting it for us as previous 2 cycles was what we did. TMI This one was doggy 😂😂 though my boys were conceived other than missionary so i may have set myself up for a blue bundle LOL

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[Poptart32]

That's what I did this cycle too [emoji23][emoji23] both my boys were missionary! X


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[netti02]

Wow than i have hope positions don't count 😂

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[hopper]

No pbn, still no sign. My longest cycle has been 35 days so in case I did O late I will give myself until Wednesday, today Monday being CD33, and then go for BW. Tired of the waiting! What an odd cycle!!

I can't remember what positions we were doing when we conceived our boys. It was possibly me on top or doggy! We did missionary the past two cycles, May not be cutting it for us lol.

[purple]

Congrats Netti!!!

I have a tilted uterus too, apparently it's pretty common (1 in 4 women?). I was actually thinking I needed to try missionary next time instead as that was the position from last pregnancy.

[Pbn3]

Geez hopper I'm so sorry you're in this limbo! Have you still been testing?

My boys were conceived missionary - I truly don't believe positions count lol. There's an old thread floating around about positions and there were so many opposites lol. Netti cant wait for your morning pics of tests! And cant wait to read your sway! Again I'm over the moon for you xxoo!!!

[luvmyfam]

I've missed a lot the last couple of days!!

CONGRATS Netti :bighug:! So exciting!

So sorry for everyone who thinks they're out for this month. Hope you will see your BFP's next month!

AFM, I'm 4 dpo and my ovaries are aching?! I have been taking my OPK's still just to make sure my LH surge was an actual ovulation, and they are negative. Im not sure what to think!

[hopper]

I haven't tested since Friday PM on my last IC. I honestly thought it would be here by now. I will test tomorrow if she hasn't arrived by then. Never thought I would be praying for AF to show lol!!

Had a great conversation with some fellow mothers on my night out. Two girls who I don't know very well were asking me if I was going to be having any more kids or was I finished at two. I said we were going to have at least one more. One of the mother's has a PP and said "I am so glad I can say I am finished. If I hadn't had one of each I would have had to keep going til I got my boy" (she had her DD first.) I loved her honesty when so many will lie over that desire. The other mother had her DD and then broke up with her OH. She met her husband a few years later and had 3 sons with him. She said she would have kept going and had 10 sons to get her second DD (first with her DH) so she understands that desire. Made me feel so much more normal lol!!

[luvmyfam]

Oh, and Im not sure I believe position sways, but both my boys were conceived in doggy. This attempt we did me on top.

[luvmyfam]

Hopper that's so strange! Very curious for you to test tomorrow. I hate when my cycles go wacky, especially when TTC.

[netti02]

Hopefully you get some answers soon hopper

Thanks pbn. Its not much of a sway 😂 but i stuck to what i could do. Fx it worked this time

Luvmyfam i had achey ovaries a few days after my +opk. Fx and babydust xx

I tested this afternoon and the 2 together are dipstick fr (one from am) and i think there is definite darkening. The one on its own is an ic with barely a line 😂 im just paranoid as last cycle i got faint hpts and spotting which turned into af. So hoping and praying

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[luvmyfam]

Definite darkening netti! And thanks for a little bit of hope!

[Poptart32]

Oh hopper limbo is no fun [emoji107] I hope you get some definitive answers soon x

Netti.. They're def darkening. What are you now 11dpo? X

Luvmyfam do you take clomid by any chance? X


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[netti02]

Will be 11dpo tmro poptart. Only 11 hours til testing time 😂

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[luvmyfam]

Poptart no, I don't take clomid.

[Poptart32]

Ok, I was gonna say I got achey after ovulation on that! I expect it's normal! Ive noticed cervix pain too after O I think we become so hyper sensitive to any symptoms when ttc! And things we wouldn't have noticed previously are now quite obvious!

If it becomes painful visit your doctor.. You know your body best x


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[luvmyfam]

I did have some twinges in my cervix today too. Odd... It probably is a little bit of me hyper sensitive to any changes.

[Poptart32]

Ive concluded its the opening and closing which causes it! (I don't know that for sure!) It feels like a flash of lightening [emoji85][emoji23] sorry only way I can describe it! And is more noticeable when/if I do pelvic floors! It's not doing it now funnily enough as it usually does in tww! But I do recall it at the beginning of my cycle!

I often feel a heaviness and tugging after O which Id thought was the cervix dropping? Who knows! X
If I wasn't ttc I wouldn't notice it!


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[luvmyfam]

Hmm. I had the twinges during both my pregnancies in the first tri. My doctor had a name for them that I can't remember (I think it was something about lightening lol). And I do sometimes get them during AF.

[Quinn31]

Poptart your chart looks great!!

Hopper, I'm sorry that's so frustrating and would drive me crazy. I feel like our bodies go crazy when we're ttc.

Purple you had a later appointment correct? Are you going to change it?

I have horrible pain sometimes when I ovulate!! Like contractions or something.

My temp went up today which was nice, I was afraid it would be down for good. Not sure what it means and I couldn't find much online when I looked for a temp drop at 5-6 dpo other than it's too early for implantation. The open circles are from when I took out and entered numbers back in later. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/26/0ba7d7a5b7977690aa3ecb7aad12910a.jpg


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[purple]

I'm going to leave the appointment as I don't think I will get an earlier one. I will just see what happens. From googling it looks like you can take clomid days 6-10 so maybe I could do that? Its not much different to the days 5-9 which I conceived DS1 with.

[Poptart32]

Quinn... Looks really good! Everything crossed for you!

My progesterone bloods ive moved to 8dpo as opposed to day 21 which so happened to fall on the day my thyroid bloods were booked in! 2 birds and all that! Winner! All being well I'll take clomid again next month which I had lying around from DS2 x


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[Poptart32]

And ive read anything before 5dpo is too early for an implantation dip! It's 5-9 or something like that! X


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[Quinn31]

Ooh that's nice to hear but I can't get my hopes up. I suspect my temp will also drop like yours does around 8-10 dpo. I only have an 11 day lp which makes me nervous but my dr doesn't seem to think it's an issue.

Purple, might as well keep it. I wouldn't think one day would be a big deal.


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[Ttc2015]

Oh my goodness this thread moves fast!!

Thanks pop tart, I wanted to try everything atomic recommended for our first attempt, I will be very shocked if it has worked as I think it was maybe a bit too strict. If it's a negative this month I will drop the lube and prob move rephresh to a day or 2 before.

Ok, just to clarify, we had our first attempt yesterday on positive opk do I'm now 1dpo? Sorry, new to this!! How long do most of you wait until you try a hpt? I was thinking end of next week? The waiting begins....

[Pbn3]

Ttc2015 if you had a positive opk yesterday you most likely oed today so tomorrow would be 1dpo :) fx for you! Day b4 o is awesome timing and what most of us girl swayers aim for each month :)

[tfahn]

I haven't been on the forums for about 2 months, hope everyone has gotten there BFP's!!!!

This was our 7th month of trying and I was really hopeful this month; Had some fast cramps/shooting pain on Thursday evening that I thought was implantation and had really good temps that stayed elevated until yesterday. Has anyone ever started there cycle before temps went below coverline? Had some faint spotting late last night and then this morning I started for sure. But my temps never dropped below the coverline and even this morning my temp raised a little. I had taken First response tests the last 3 days and not even a faint line appeared. This cycle has me baffled. My DH was really disappointed that this was another no month, we both would love a second baby, so it makes it even harder.

Hope everyone is having better luck then me.

[Pbn3]

Hi tfahn I'm on cycle 6 so I understand your frustration. My temps have stayed above coverline almost all my cycles temping after af arrives. I do get a drop but not until cd1and its mostly been above coverline from memory. Have you though about seeing your doc to find out what your next step could be ttc wise?

[tfahn]

Hi Pbn3, I remember seeing you in the past 2WW threads, hopefully this is your month!!!

I guess I am going to have to go see a doctor; I really didn't want too. I know they are just going to look at my weight and blame that. Yes I am overweight but I was when I had DD#1 and I got pregnant with her on the 3rd month of trying after coming off the pill after 18 years. I ovulate every month and LP is usually 11-12 days so I have those things going for me. I am older and this baby will be the last for us so I guess I should make an appointment. Do people usually go to there OB/Gyn first or go straight to a RE specialist?

Also I have been doing some reading on secondary infertility and it seems like a some people that had C-sections have issues trying to get pregnant again. DD#1 was Breech and they wouldn't let me labor naturally at our hospital so I had to have a C-Section, I wanted a very natural birth so a C-Section wasn't even on my radar until 1.5 days before they did the surgery at 39 weeks, so I didn't get a chance to do much research before the operation.

[Pbn3]

I hadn't heard that regarding c sections! I had ds1 at 33 and he was an emergency cs, ds2 was scheduled (I was 35). I'm now 37 so maybe both age and previous csections are against me :( I think you'd see you're regular gp who would then refer you to a fertility speciliast - I may be wrong there though and it may depend what country you're in too? But all the best tfahn in any case I hope you get a bfp sooner than later!

[Ttc2015]

Thanks pbn, thats cleared up the confusion for me. It's rubbish being new at all of this!

[ksmom]

Tfahn, I understand the frustration of TTC for several months with no luck. With DS1, we tried for a year even though we timed everything right each cycle and I was charting, doing OPKs, practically standing on my head (LOL) etc in hopes of conceiving. I hope you get your BFP soon!

CD7 for me today. I had some major sharp pains in my left ovary all evening yesterday to the point of blurting out obscenities. :rofl: Took an OPK and it was negative but the line was darker than I expected it to be. I really just want to get pregnant again soon. After being on the diet for over 5 months and doing exercise for 10 weeks, I've grown tired of it. :sigh: I'd love to be able to pig out at Thanksgiving and Christmas. ;)

[tfahn]

Thanks ksmom. I think if I was younger I wouldn't feel so rushed/frustrated with taking awhile to conceive. Sometimes I want to kick myself for not having kids sooner. We have been married for 18 years and I really didn't want kids until a few years ago, guess my clock ticking finally woke me up, lol! Now I can't ever imagine a life with kids, it is so rewarding.

Good luck to you, hope this is the month for you.

[luvmyfam]

Tfahn that's interesting about c sections and secondary infertility. I wonder if they found a link? Hope you get your bfp soon!

Ksmom I tend to get significant O pains 3-4 days before I get a positive OPK. It sounds promising that you are gearing up to O! Good luck!

[luvmyfam]

I'm going to leave the appointment as I don't think I will get an earlier one. I will just see what happens. From googling it looks like you can take clomid days 6-10 so maybe I could do that? Its not much different to the days 5-9 which I conceived DS1 with.

Purple Im not that familiar with clomid but I hope the days 6-10 will be fine. I don't want you to have to miss a month!

[has2gentlemen]

Evap lines or just very faint positives? I don't want to get my hopes up, but I'm headed to the dentist and I don't want to get X-rays if it's a bfp.
The top test was last night after about a 4 hour hold, the bottom was this morning after 5-6 hours. I'm around 10/11dpo. I hate the new frer tests but that's all I could get the other day.

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[tfahn]

Tfahn that's interesting about c sections and secondary infertility. I wonder if they found a link? Hope you get your bfp soon!

Ksmom I tend to get significant O pains 3-4 days before I get a positive OPK. It sounds promising that you are gearing up to O! Good luck!


It doesn't happen to everybody but here is a summary of what I have been reading:

The C-section surgery can create scar tissue or adhesions making it difficult for an embryo to implant in the uterus. Scar tissue or adhesions can also form on the fallopian tubes preventing conception. They can also create complications that block ovaries making it difficult to get pregnant; and in some cases preventing pregnancy altogether. If you suffered a pelvic infection after your C-Section this can also block the fallopian tubes

[ksmom]

Luvmyfam, I hope I'm going to ovulate soon too! I normally don't get pains like that this early on in my cycle since I tend to not ovulate until around CD25.

Has2gentleman, eeeek!!! So exciting! I don't care for the new FRER either, the design is really awkward. I heard Target still carries the old one but I haven't checked for myself.

[bertiebear]

Congrats, Netti and Has2Gentleman!!

I tested this morning, and BFN. :( However, as I was reading the previous posts, I think I've been counting my days wrong. I had a +OPK on CD14. I had what I think were ovary aches the next day (CD15), so would that make CD16 = 1dpo? If so, I'm on CD27 today which is only 12dpo. I only have the cheapie hpt so maybe it's too early to get a bfp????

What is the trick with the gold rings next to the hpt?

[has2gentlemen]

I do it because my phone camera refuses to focus on my shiny countertop and because on another board I was on, people would steal your bfp photos as their own and my ring is very unique so I could tell right away. Mostly for focus though.


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[hopper]

OMG has2 those are two lovely lines!!!! Massive congrats hun! That's Netti and Has2 now in two days girls, who's next!! They say good news comes in threes ;) xxx

[tfahn]

Just made an appt for next week with my OB/Gyn for Infertility since we are starting cycle #8 today. Hopefully they will have some insight.

[Quinn31]

Tfahn I went to my Ob and then to the RE when I had secondary infertility. The RE was more helpful.

Anyone know why my nipples would be tender all lp (tmi I know)? It's never been the whole time and of course I assume my hormones are all out of whack. I also just saw my first pimple which is usually my first sign of af at 6-8dpo. My temps were down so maybe it's due to the estrogen rise temporarily. Hopefully I'm not out. Temping makes this more stressful, I'm done after this month. I


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[tfahn]

Thanks Quinn31, now I'm wondering if I should go right to an RE? Due to my DH's company switching insurance last month I will only have a $250 deductible till the end of the year, then come January it will jump to either $1 or $2K, I can't remember. So I would like to get as much done this year as I can. I made the appt with the Dr that did my C-Section, he is a really good surgeon and the head of the practice but I am not sure how well versed regular Ob's are in infertility.

[Boysboys]

Never heard that about csections! I've had two and that's a little scary!!

Definitely positive has2gentlemen!!!!!!! Congrats girl!! Was this one attempt??

[essnce629]

WooHoo, congrats Netti and Has2!!!! Hopefully the rush of BFPs is starting!

FF still has me at 6dpo and I think I agree with it now. I for sure thought I was only 4dpo, but with my low temp again this morning I guess not. I guess my post-O temps are lower overall this time around. It just started getting cooler at night and I sleep with my window open and 2 fans on so it's pretty chilly in my room LOL!

So if I am really 6dpo then I O'd early on CD12 which is when I also O'd with DS2. I normally O on CD15. Also, if I do manage to get a BFP this time, my due date would be July 12th, which is DHs birthday! FX that just one little sperm survived the pull out method!

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[has2gentlemen]

Yes, single attempt. It's only my second cycle, so I wasn't expecting it to happen so quickly. Hopefully I'll see a darker line tomorrow that I can actually believe it's real


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[Poptart32]

OMG has2!!!! I am SO happy for you!! [emoji322][emoji322]


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[Poptart32]

Just read about c sections too! I had an emergency one with DS1 so no doubt that impacts on my fertility now! Alongside my under active thyroid, cysts and tilted uterus [emoji28] never straight forward is it! X


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[2xblue]

Has2, huge congrats!!! Wow so good to have bfps in this thread!

[Pbn3]

Wow! Massive congrats has2g!! Woohoo another bfp!

Fx essnce!! Hope you continue the bfp train!!!

[Pbn3]

Netti stalking for this mornings tests!!

[Quinn31]

Just saw has2. Congrats!! Definitely a line!


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[mammacass]

Yay has2 congratulations!!!


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[netti02]

Congrats has2g woohoo

Best of luck essnce xx

Im not sure if i should be expecting something darker or not today. They are still wet but definitely a shade darker and the ic now has a faint line. Im 11dpo however i think O was a little longer than 24hrs so im between 10-11dpo. I'm working the next 2 nights so not much chance of fmu happening at least til Friday but ill still do a hold and test. I think ill get an early test today aswell. Temp is still high, no spotting so im still sitting in cautiously optimistic basket. I'll stay put til these tests darken up.

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[Pbn3]

Looking good netti!

[luvmyfam]

Congrats has2:bighug:!!

Quinn those sound like pregnancy symptoms to me!

Looking good Netti! I work the next 2 nights too! Hoping it will take my mind off the TWW for now!

[netti02]

Thanks ladies. I can't help but be paranoid. I think actually got a better shot of the pregnosis on their own

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I'll try to spend my day relaxing 😂 im going to bake a cake and some chocolate muffins. I also had to share this pic about boys 😂😂

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[purple]

Congrats has2g!

Netti I hope those tests keep getting darker. Good idea trying to relax!

I'm going to try to cut back my time on here a bit starting with removing tapatalk. It's too much distraction from work (I'm taking a Facebook break too).

I will login from my laptop on Friday evening to update everyone about my appointment. I hope to see some more bfps by then :)

[essnce629]

Looking good Netti!!! Are those tests like the FRER ones we have here in the US? Or do you have FRER too? FX for darkening lines!

[netti02]

We have frer too. These are pregnosis clear, i think Australian brand and you can test before af. They apparently detect 25IU/L. The reason i brought these over the frer is a 5 pack is 15.95. A 3 pack of frers can cost that or more depending where you buy them. Plus that's what ive been using so for comparison ill stick with them 😊

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[Magical22]

Hi magical! How is the ivf going?

@pbn3 Good the hard part is all over I had 7 follies in my scan they retrieved all 7 and all 7 fertilised! Now I have to wait till this afternoon to see how many made it to freezing, a few more hours and I should know.

Then all going well I'll pop one back in this next cycle and join you all again in the nov 2ww [emoji5]

Thanks for thinking of me.


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[netti02]

Wow awesome magical fx for you

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[Magical22]

Congrats has2gentlemen great lines!!


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[Pbn3]

Awesome news magical!! Can't wait for your next update!

[Quinn31]

Magical that sounds like the best case scenario. Good thoughts coming your way.


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[luvmyfam]

Thats awesome Magical!! Good luck and baby dust!!

[Magical22]

3 embryos frozen happy with that!


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[Poptart32]

Amazing magical! Can you implant more than one at a time? X


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[Magical22]

No just the 1 they are really strict about that in Australia but I only want 1 put back in anyway. [emoji5]


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[bertiebear]

AF arrived tonight, so I'm out this month. This was a 27d cycle. If I had a +OPK on CD14 and I think I O'd on CD15, how do I calculate my luteal phase? I worry about too short a LP.

Congrats, again, to Netti and Has2G!!

[netti02]

Sorry to hear bertirbear. From cd16 so should be 12lp

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[Pbn3]

Sorry bertiebear :( if you oed on cd15 and af arrived tonight your lt phase would be 12 days or 11 both of which are fine. You'd only start to worry overmuch if it falls below 10.

[netti02]

Just an update ladies. Things seem to be progressing well. I feel confident enough to migrate over to the expecting thread. Im still going to be testing the next few days i want to see some dark lines 😂 but i will definitely be checking in on you all. I send the biggest amount of babydust all your way akd hope to see you over there. Thank you all so much for being a rock of sanity when at times i felt like losing the plot xxxxxx

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[Poptart32]

No just the 1 they are really strict about that in Australia but I only want 1 put back in anyway. [emoji5]


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That's good then! I have a feeling it's just one in the UK now too! GL will be stalking [emoji8]


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[Poptart32]

Just an update ladies. Things seem to be progressing well. I feel confident enough to migrate over to the expecting thread. Im still going to be testing the next few days i want to see some dark lines [emoji23] but i will definitely be checking in on you all. I send the biggest amount of babydust all your way akd hope to see you over there. Thank you all so much for being a rock of sanity when at times i felt like losing the plot xxxxxx

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Lovely line netti! Great news.. Hopefully see you over there soon [emoji8] H&H 9 months xxx


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[Poptart32]

Sorry to hear about AF Bertie [emoji20] GL for next month xx


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[Pbn3]

Looking awesome netti! I'll take any spare baby dust you have lol. Hope to see you there real soon :)

[luvmyfam]

So happy for you Netti!! H&H 9 months to you :)!

[hopper]

Sorry to hear AF got you bertiebear!

Magical I am delighted for you!! Will be stalking you and hoping for great news x

Netti that is great progression hun!!! Absolutely thrilled for you! Third cycle was the charm, here's hoping its contagious lol ;)

AFM still no AF but feeling crampy and AF-y in general. Am thinking I MUST have geared up to O and just didn't which sucks as the timing would have been great for pink. I'm now wondering do we go with one attempt at +opk for November which may end up like this month with my body gearing up to O and then doesn't? DH wants to do e3d which surprises me. He feels that with so long on diet and 20lbs weight loss (I think I gained 2lbs since Friday I have been SO off diet!!!) my fertility is already lowered significantly. I'm on the fence. November will be our last month trying until next February due to family obligations so would like to get pg this side of 2016. The idea of being on some form of LE until at least next Feb makes me want to cry!!!

[Quinn31]

Hopper has this ever happened to you before? Is clomid an option? I've been slipping from the HE diet so I can totally understand.


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[Quinn31]

So my temp is the same as yesterday. Would you all say this is a good sign that I'm not having progesterone issues? I know temp can't tell a ton but I have a short luteal phase (11 days) so I'm hoping the fact that it's up is a good sign. I've never been able to figure out my fertility issues and was hoping temping would shed light. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/27/20719ca13015b4353be3534b13c98968.jpg


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[hopper]

Hopper has this ever happened to you before? Is clomid an option? I've been slipping from the HE diet so I can totally understand.


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I've had several long cycles hun but never like this. I used IC OPKs for a couple of months before actively ttc and every month I got a +opk and then got AF 12-13 days later. We were going to start ttc in August but with our vacation we decided to wait til after we got back. DH was adamant that the boys were first time tries so he was convinced we'd be the same this time. I'm so fed up of LE, I just want to eat what I want when I want and not feel guilty. I was a complete write off this weekend - I even had breakfast yesterday morning!! I didn't even have breakfast while we were away on vacation, I'm not really a breakfast person even!! But boy it felt so good lol. I feel guilty now though!!

[hopper]

So my temp is the same as yesterday. Would you all say this is a good sign that I'm not having progesterone issues? I know temp can't tell a ton but I have a short luteal phase (11 days) so I'm hoping the fact that it's up is a good sign. I've never been able to figure out my fertility issues and was hoping temping would shed light. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/27/20719ca13015b4353be3534b13c98968.jpg

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Fingers crossed your temp being up is a good sign and this is the month x

[Magical22]

I started a nov testing thread, pop on over when your ready [emoji5]


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[Nann3r]

Hello!!! I'm officially a 2WW-er!! :) made our attempts yesterday for a boy! :D so guess that puts me technically at 1dpo! :)

Obviously won't be able to test until November so whenever that thread starts up I'll swap over :)

[Quinn31]

Hopper I ate breakfast sometimes and have two girls. Remember it's overall condition. I freak out when I don't eat carbs and protein together so I know how it is.

Welcome Nann. Glad to have another boy swayer!


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[has2gentlemen]

Congrats Netti! And good luck Magical, nann, and Quinn-- hope to see you over on the due date board soon. I'm feeling a little more confident about today's test (bottom), but I'm wondering how early it must be since both my boys were dark, obvious positives on the first test at 13 dpo.

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[Laurenk1424]

Congrats Netti! So exciting! I'm glad we got atleast a few bfn!
A fm- the witch arrived. I guess I'll be joining the November group. I don't plan on using any rephresh this month. I'm contemplating if we should use SP & cranberry again.... I'm going to use vitex for sure though because it has given me such great cycle length improvements.


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[hopper]

welcome nan :) sending loads of my blue dust ;)

thanks for the kind words quinn, hoping you are right! my overall condition is appalling right now!!

has2 lovely progression there!!! Am so excited for you, hope to join your due date group soon ;)

sorry to hear the witch got you Lauren :( Am contemplating SP next cycle too. Must get on DHs back about taking his cran and lr! hes gone very bad for remembering!! Hope we see our bfps in November hun xxx

[Quinn31]

Sorry Lauren, that sucks. I know the feeling well. Enjoy some bad food and drinks today.

Has anyone ever had af symptoms that turned into a bfp? I'm so irritable and I get really bad before af. Just hoping it doesn't mean af for sure. I even yelled at my dd this morning before pre-k and I feel horrible. Plus I feel road rage and parking lot rage since no one seems to be able to park in one spot!! Okay, irrational vent over.


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[ksmom]

Sorry you got AF Lauren :( FX November is our month!

Congrats Netti and Has2!!! Those lines are looking good. H&H 9 months! :)

Hopper, don't fret over eating breakfast. You've been on the diet awhile right? I ate breakfast, snacked, took vitamins and basically didn't eat LE for an entire week while I was pregnant but Atomic assured me it's overall condition that matters. A few blips aren't going to undo months of dieting. Are you still having blood work done to figure out what's going on with your cycle?

Quinn, last cycle I was super emotional a few days before my BFP. I'd start crying over stupid things then I'd be a major grump and lose my temper with the kids. :/ I swear pregnancy symptoms and AF symptoms are so similar I always think my period is coming when I'm prego!

Still waiting to O over here. Had some more ovary pain yesterday and I'm having some other fertile signs. My temp went up today which is weird but I guess they'll be wonky for awhile.

[Poptart32]

Hey nann!!

Lauren sorry about AF [emoji107] and what is SP?


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[Poptart32]

Hopper I thought it was cranberry or licorice root? And OLE. That was my understanding anyway x

Quinn im savage most of my cycle let alone before AF [emoji23][emoji12]

Has2 lines look much better! Maybe U implanted later than previously x


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[Poptart32]

So my temp is the same as yesterday. Would you all say this is a good sign that I'm not having progesterone issues? I know temp can't tell a ton but I have a short luteal phase (11 days) so I'm hoping the fact that it's up is a good sign. I've never been able to figure out my fertility issues and was hoping temping would shed light. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/27/20719ca13015b4353be3534b13c98968.jpg


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I really should read through before I reply I end up posting loads of responses at once [emoji85]

Your chart is looking good so far! The fact your luteal phase is over 10 days is good too. Why were U wondering I don't remember was it just that you aren't conceiving as quick as you'd like/most?

Mines still looking ok today! Am expecting a nosedive tomorrow.. If it stays up I'll be testing for sure! X



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[Laurenk1424]

welcome nan :) sending loads of my blue dust ;)

thanks for the kind words quinn, hoping you are right! my overall condition is appalling right now!!

has2 lovely progression there!!! Am so excited for you, hope to join your due date group soon ;)

sorry to hear the witch got you Lauren :( Am contemplating SP next cycle too. Must get on DHs back about taking his cran and lr! hes gone very bad for remembering!! Hope we see our bfps in November hun xxx

Is the SP supposed to be a big factor? The Vitex & cranberry are the most important right?


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[Laurenk1424]

Hey nann!!

Lauren sorry about AF [emoji107] and what is SP?


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It's Saw Palmetto. A supplement for girl sway.


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[Quinn31]

I really should read through before I reply I end up posting loads of responses at once [emoji85]

Your chart is looking good so far! The fact your luteal phase is over 10 days is good too. Why were U wondering I don't remember was it just that you aren't conceiving as quick as you'd like/most?

Mines still looking ok today! Am expecting a nosedive tomorrow.. If it stays up I'll be testing for sure! X



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I just checked and yours is like mine but a day behind! I conceived my first right away and my second took over a year and I ended up getting an IUI out of impatience. I'm so scarred by that I assume something has to be wrong with me even though all of our testing was normal. I just had an u/s so I should hear about my lining soon.

Are you having your blood tests tomorrow? I want to stop temping today but I know I'll kick myself. It will be so heartbreaking to see my temp go down. I can't even test early because a bfn is hard to take.


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[hopper]

Sorry you got AF Lauren :( FX November is our month!

Congrats Netti and Has2!!! Those lines are looking good. H&H 9 months! :)

Hopper, don't fret over eating breakfast. You've been on the diet awhile right? I ate breakfast, snacked, took vitamins and basically didn't eat LE for an entire week while I was pregnant but Atomic assured me it's overall condition that matters. A few blips aren't going to undo months of dieting. Are you still having blood work done to figure out what's going on with your cycle?

Quinn, last cycle I was super emotional a few days before my BFP. I'd start crying over stupid things then I'd be a major grump and lose my temper with the kids. :/ I swear pregnancy symptoms and AF symptoms are so similar I always think my period is coming when I'm prego!

Still waiting to O over here. Had some more ovary pain yesterday and I'm having some other fertile signs. My temp went up today which is weird but I guess they'll be wonky for awhile.

Thanks hun. Been on diet pretty much except for a couple of blips since May 1st. Have lost about 10-12lbs since then and think my muscle mass is fairly non existent! I'm planning to wait til tomorrow if AF doesn't show today and see if they can fit me in for BW. If AF doesn't show today I have no idea what's going on but will test tomorrow if I have to before going for Bw. I just hate seeing BFNs so am putting it off!!

Hopefully your body will set itself right shortly hun and you will have a nice early O and a sticky bfp next month xxx

[hopper]

Hopper I thought it was cranberry or licorice root? And OLE. That was my understanding anyway x

Quinn im savage most of my cycle let alone before AF [emoji23][emoji12]

Has2 lines look much better! Maybe U implanted later than previously x


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I thought it was LR and cranberry OR OLE. DH can definitely only take OLE or cranberry as I have asked Atomic about the benefits of both several times now, she recommends cranberry BUT mostly because the stats just aren't there for OLE just yet.

[atomic sagebrush]

Is the SP supposed to be a big factor? The Vitex & cranberry are the most important right?


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None are getting stellar results and I would have anyone drop them after 3 months if you haven't gotten pregnant when using htem.

[hopper]

Is the SP supposed to be a big factor? The Vitex & cranberry are the most important right?


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I just looked into it a little bit more recently and it seems like it definitely has helped sways in the past. I'm just thinking of other things I can throw at my sway to make it as pink as possible! I'm not into the Vitex at the moment although this cycle is definitely making me question that decision! If it doesn't regulate I will look into it. A lot have dropped the Vitex since I joined, it was very popular in 2014 then we postponed ttc so I didn't check in here until earlier this year and Vitex seemed to be less popular. I think if it's helping your cycles regulate then it's working for you. Cranberry is recommended for DHs but not us, right? Or at least it was when I got my personalised plan in 2014.

[atomic sagebrush]

I thought it was LR and cranberry OR OLE. DH can definitely only take OLE or cranberry as I have asked Atomic about the benefits of both several times now, she recommends cranberry BUT mostly because the stats just aren't there for OLE just yet.

It is licorice root OR peppermint tea

AND

Olive leaf extract OR cranberry.

I recommend cranberry for men who can take it (those under 35, in good health, good sperm quality, not on blood thinners or other meds that may interact with cran) because I am not completely convinced yet on the OLE. Most of the people who I had on OLE up until 2015, were on it because they had some issue (they were older, poor sperm health, fertility challenges) that could have had them more "set" for pink. It's not that I think the stats on OLE are bad, they're actually great, but i am not yet convinced that it's because OLE itself is great or if it's because up till this last 9 months I was only giving it to a certain subset of people who may have been overall more pink-friendly to start with.

Girls, it's impossible for me to keep up with these support threads. I just so happened to see one of the questions come thru in the "new posts" and so I could reply to this. PLEASE put your actual questions into the main forums for me to respond to because if 10 people get confused, it only ends up taking me longer than if you had just asked me in the first place.

(Please note I am not mad or annoyed, it's just that literally every time I open a support thread there is invariably some level of confusion going on, please just ASK when you have questions rather than guessing "I think it's this or I think it's that")

[Poptart32]

Yes that's what I thought hopper. If you were to take anything then it would be aspirin (which is what I do a few times a week) due to vitamin content. Ive not bothered with any supps other Than that and folic acid as it's another stress id rather not have x

Quinn - yes progesterone bloods tomorrow. If they're ok, then im like you just take ages to conceive! And our charts look similar too [emoji57]


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[netti02]

Lovely has2g 😄

Sorry to hear about the witch Lauren. Fx for November xx

Quinn- i honeslty didn't think this was my month. Whilst i didn't have usual af symptoms i didnt have pregnant ones either. It was kind of a limbo

Fx for O ksmom

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[atomic sagebrush]

I just looked into it a little bit more recently and it seems like it definitely has helped sways in the past. I'm just thinking of other things I can throw at my sway to make it as pink as possible! I'm not into the Vitex at the moment although this cycle is definitely making me question that decision! If it doesn't regulate I will look into it. A lot have dropped the Vitex since I joined, it was very popular in 2014 then we postponed ttc so I didn't check in here until earlier this year and Vitex seemed to be less popular. I think if it's helping your cycles regulate then it's working for you. Cranberry is recommended for DHs but not us, right? Or at least it was when I got my personalised plan in 2014.

I do think both vitex and SP sway pink or I would not continue to recommend them. I 110% believe vitex worked for me both to restore my cycle when nursing and also helped me get my DD. BUT the issue is that (rather like with the Cran vs. OLE issue) the results have been disappointing overall - actually considerably less than the overall success rates of the site. Now, I suspect that it may be because V and SP have caused so much trouble for so many people that the only people who were able to get pregnant, may have been highly fertile and thus more "set" for blue AND/OR were able to get pregnant right away (becuase everyone who didn't get pregnant within a few months usually drops them) possibly meaning less time on diet. I also have totally given up on V and SP for anyone over 35 unless they insist on it because I felt like it really cut odds of conception for moms in that age range.

cranberry for DW does not work of this I"m convinced and I do not recommend it any more. For DH, I just posted explanation in my prev. post.

The fact is, without a blind, controlled study on JUST vitex or just saw palmetto in people doing nothing else to sway (and who do not have PCOS) we cannot know how much they sway. Like I said on paper both of them "should" sway and that is why I continue to recommend them. But I cannot tell peopel how much or which is better, that is just info that I do not and probably will never have.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that's what I thought hopper. If you were to take anything then it would be aspirin (which is what I do a few times a week) due to vitamin content. Ive not bothered with any supps other Than that and folic acid as it's another stress id rather not have x

Quinn - yes progesterone bloods tomorrow. If they're ok, then im like you just take ages to conceive! And our charts look similar too [emoji57]


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If you absolutely MUST take something for pH ladies instead of cranberry use aspirin. BUT that having been said I am not even recommending that any more because it did not get any better results than the overall stats of the site (and unlike V and SP, aspirin does not cut odds of conception, everyone was taking it, and I believe this to be a "real" statistical finding - it doesn't sway), and because the risks are much greater than we originally thought.

Again, please ask these type of questions in the forums because I cannot check these threads often enough to answer all the q's in them. If I hadn't stumbled onto this thread this morning that would have been like 4 different things that peopel were having confusion about that I could have answered.

[hopper]

Yes that's what I thought hopper. If you were to take anything then it would be aspirin (which is what I do a few times a week) due to vitamin content. Ive not bothered with any supps other Than that and folic acid as it's another stress id rather not have x

Quinn - yes progesterone bloods tomorrow. If they're ok, then im like you just take ages to conceive! And our charts look similar too [emoji57]


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Sorry poptart, I didn't have it phrased properly. I thought it was OLE and LR or Cran and LR (forgetting entirely about peppermint tea just cause I hate teas in general lol) In my rush to answer before DS2 tore the head of hair off DS1 I didn't word it right! I take chitosan fibre and folic 1200-1600mcg. I wanted to keep my sway as straight forward as possible and here I am contemplating ways to complicate it! :nyd:

[Poptart32]

Soo if DH takes his OLE and LR am I still ok drinking peppermint tea? [emoji85] he would never drink that!


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[ksmom]

I think peppermint tea is for the men to drink, not us. Atomic suggested my DH drink it (in addition to cranberry) since he can't do LR. He's been drinking it daily for nearly 3 months now and he swears it's raised his estrogen. He's much more emotional with it. He says he feels like a damn lady. :giggle:

[Poptart32]

Hahaha brilliant ksmom!

I have gone majorly over on protein today! Damn you nando's [emoji35] everything else is within range! But ive had 91g protein [emoji15][emoji15][emoji15]
Crazy how it stacks up so quickly eating meat! Only had a butterfly chicken breast with rice and garlic bread!

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[Nann3r]

Ah I'm jealous! That was one of the hardest things for me with my swaying! I'm not good with protein at ALL.. So I did a very loose HE diet.. Basically just watched my calories but the calories I did eat were HE calories. Tried to avoid fruits though. Mostly fatty foods. And meats when I could!

[Quinn31]

I'm 8 dpo and these last few days kill me!! Af is due on Saturday so I hope I know before then. I don't want to be sad on Halloween.


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[mammacass]

Welcome Nann3r [emoji4]

Line is looking great has2!

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[Nann3r]

1dpo and I'm already so impatient omg.. I feel like it's been 10 days at least! Ah!

[Poptart32]

Right behind you Quinn!!

Nann I normally eat lots of meat so it's a real struggle!! X


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[Nann3r]

Last time I was pregnant we weren't trying, we just pulled the goalie so I figured I'd just wait till AF didn't show up. I've never had to "wait" to find out!

[Poptart32]

There's a couple of things ive noticed this TWW.. 1) my cervix is really high, hard and pointy and closed firm shut
2) pains in my boobs. Not to touch or anything but shooting pains inside.

Not getting my hopes up though!! If my temp stays up I will be more optimistic!


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[hopper]

Ok so I grabbed another 2 pack of FRERs this evening like 5 mins before the store closed. I had just had a pee before going to the store cause I wasn't planning on buying any til tomorrow but as I am out of the house this evening and couldn't wait til morning I had like a two hour hold max and did a test. As you can see I dismantled it, I don't know why I continue to buy FRERs when I dislike them so much! This pic was taken within 5 minutes of taking the test, then I dumped it and am now at a work thing but dwelling on the pic I took! I *think* theres a faint second line but surely at about 5 days past AF day it should be more of a line than a squinter even with only a two hour hold. Does anyone else see the major squinter in this pic? I had made my peace with being out this cycle and debated even posting this but I'm obsessed!!!
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[Quinn31]

Hopper, I feel like I can but I honestly don't know if I'm seeing things. I really hope it is!

[hopper]

Hopper, I feel like I can but I honestly don't know if I'm seeing things. I really hope it is!

lol thanks hun, to be honest I kinda feel like that myself!!! I was fine with being out this month and I am feeling all AF crampy all day today so was truly expecting to see nothing. Of course my line eye has came into play!! I should have waited til the morning.

[Poptart32]

The pic is quite dark but I'm sure I can see something too?


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[mammacass]

Sorry hopper pic is a bit dark so I'm not sure but yay if it is!!!


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[Pbn3]

Hopper I actually feel I can see a super dooper squinter and that it has colour. I hope I'm right and not getting your hopes up falsely. How long until morning where you are?

Lauren sorry to hear af came :( best of luck for next cycle!

Welcome nann and fx!

Poptart your chart amd symptoms are sounding awesome! When will you test??

[Pbn3]

Oh and hopper it would depend how diluted your urine was. Even after a 2 hour hold, did you have heaps of fluid during the day?

[hopper]

Thanks ladies! I am on the way home now and on my tab. Just had a look at the pic on the tab and I can't see a second line at all so am thinking maybe it was the phone camera that made it appear that way. I thought I saw a shadow in person when I took the test but it was a pee and dash kinda test so didn't get to squint too much at it lol. It's about 12 hours til morning pbn so not a massive wait by any means. I had three big coffees and a couple of glasses of water over the course of the day. I'll make sure to not get up and go to the bathroom tonight when the boys inevitably wake - though they didn't wake last night so here's hoping that's the start if some better sleep for mama!!

[Magical22]

Hello!!! I'm officially a 2WW-er!! :) made our attempts yesterday for a boy! :D so guess that puts me technically at 1dpo! :)

Obviously won't be able to test until November so whenever that thread starts up I'll swap over :)

Nov testing is up [emoji5]


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[atomic sagebrush]

I think peppermint tea is for the men to drink, not us. Atomic suggested my DH drink it (in addition to cranberry) since he can't do LR. He's been drinking it daily for nearly 3 months now and he swears it's raised his estrogen. He's much more emotional with it. He says he feels like a damn lady. :giggle:

Again ladies, please just ASK in the forums if you aren't sure rather than saying "I think this or that" because it ends up saving tons of time and confusion in the end.

peppermint tea can be drunk by either DH or DW. For DH it takes the place of LR (and yes it does raise estrogen). For DW it takes the place of saw palmetto.

We do not know which option is better in any case - we'd need studies done in people doing nothing to sway.

[Poptart32]

Pbn I will try and hang on until 10dpo! [emoji120] but if my temp stays up no doubt I'll cave sooner than that!


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[Poptart32]

Again ladies, please just ASK in the forums if you aren't sure rather than saying "I think this or that" because it ends up saving tons of time and confusion in the end.

peppermint tea can be drunk by either DH or DW. For DH it takes the place of LR (and yes it does raise estrogen). For DW it takes the place of saw palmetto.

We do not know which option is better in any case - we'd need studies done in people doing nothing to sway.

By the forums do you mean starting a new thread? Or is there a specific questions forum I wasn't aware of? I'm still finding my way around!


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[ksmom]

Poptart, just go to the TTC A GIRL forum and open a new thread (or the private one if you're a dream member). That's usually where people ask sway questions.

[Poptart32]

Thankyou!


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[Pbn3]

God my back is killing me :( I'm wearing a brace but cant wear it all day. Wish I was more than 5dpo and knew if I was pregnant or not so I could take my anti inflammatory pills. I'm in for a long week so if I don't post as much as usual (resident chatterbox here :))you'll know why. I've had some cramping last few days but its hard to say its not related to my back. All in all feeling pretty miserable - need to see some bfps to cheer me up! Bring them in ladies!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Poptart, just go to the TTC A GIRL forum and open a new thread (or the private one if you're a dream member). That's usually where people ask sway questions.

:agree: Yes exactly - these support threads move really fast and since most of it is not questions, it's just not possible for me to keep up on every post in them. So if a question is answered inaccurately (totally well-meaning BTW ladies, I understand, again I am not annoyed or anything at all, just trying to get the right info to everyone) then all of a sudden 10-20 people are getting confused and I never read the thread to clarify or correct the misunderstanding. And 10-20 people are now either doing something based on a misunderstanding or 10-20 questions are coming my way so it just makes everyones life easier, whenever there's a question or confusion, if it comes to my attention.

I am really not a hard ass at all about where people post!! And I ALWAYS appreciate the help when someone for sure knows an answer, it's just when there is uncertainty. I'll go away now LOL The thread just happened to pop up for me this morning and I spotted it. Just makes my life and yours too, a little bit easier. :)

[Poptart32]

God my back is killing me :( I'm wearing a brace but cant wear it all day. Wish I was more than 5dpo and knew if I was pregnant or not so I could take my anti inflammatory pills. I'm in for a long week so if I don't post as much as usual (resident chatterbox here :))you'll know why. I've had some cramping last few days but its hard to say its not related to my back. All in all feeling pretty miserable - need to see some bfps to cheer me up! Bring them in ladies!!

Hot water bottle and regular paracetamol? Codeine? Id love to cheer you up with a bfp!!!!


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[hopper]

God my back is killing me :( I'm wearing a brace but cant wear it all day. Wish I was more than 5dpo and knew if I was pregnant or not so I could take my anti inflammatory pills. I'm in for a long week so if I don't post as much as usual (resident chatterbox here :))you'll know why. I've had some cramping last few days but its hard to say its not related to my back. All in all feeling pretty miserable - need to see some bfps to cheer me up! Bring them in ladies!!

Sorry to hear you are suffering hun!! Hopefully the time will go fast to test day for you and fingers and toes crossed some ladies can oblige with bfps before this month is done ;)

[Pbn3]

Thanks poptart I've been using my wheat bag for heat on and off. Really didn't want to take anything medicinal yet but I'll see what happens next couple days. I even hate using my brace as I picture all my insides being squished including a possible fertilised egg although I know thats just plain silly [emoji23]

[Pbn3]

Sorry to hear you are suffering hun!! Hopefully the time will go fast to test day for you and fingers and toes crossed some ladies can oblige with bfps before this month is done ;)
Hopefully you in the morning hopper [emoji6]

[hopper]

Thanks poptart I've been using my wheat bag for heat on and off. Really didn't want to take anything medicinal yet but I'll see what happens next couple days. I even hate using my brace as I picture all my insides being squished including a possible fertilised egg although I know thats just plain silly [emoji23]

Might a shower help, I mean with the hot water aimed at your back? I suffer with my back and that and baths help but obviously we don't want to be taking baths so close to O - cause I just can't help but think of things getting washed out of there haha. As if! So don't feel silly about picturing your insides being squished by your brace, we can't be the only ones right ;)


Hopefully you in the morning hopper [emoji6]
Oh how I would love to oblige though have put away my phone and stopped obsessing lol. In bed now and going to read to shut my mind off a bit. Either way I will know and if it's a bfn I can go and get BW and hopefully answers about this dodgy cycle. Bright side and all that ;)

[Pbn3]

Until morning then! Which will be my night hope I'm still up when you post!!! Sweet dreams!

[hopper]

Aww thanks pbn! :) Whether you are up or not shall surely depend on how my boys sleep lol. They slept a whopping 13 hours straight last night - wouldn't you know they are sick when they sleep so good!! Have a good day :)

[Pbn3]

So I've been going back through the sep 2ww when I had my chemical and found these posts. Took a screenshot of them so hopefully they're still readable. Only did this because I can see a good similarity with this cycles chart. (What else can you do at 5dpo but compare lol) First pic is this cycles chart, second is my chart 2 cycles ago and third is a pic of my very short lived bfp. I also mentioned minor cramping back then and this is day 3 of minor cramps this cycle. Hoping so much this will be my cycle!http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/27/e3bc4ee1b94429176296fa95b8a8ac78.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/27/9f98ce66e19a9a488ac595bf7de257a0.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/27/4129fb13468437add233d1681f8c2630.jpg

[Poptart32]

My temp has dropped a little today [emoji20] im not going to bother testing. I secretly felt so hopeful this month but now I know it's not happening. Really don't know what's the matter with me!


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[Pbn3]

Poptart that's not much of a dip and still well above coverline. I know you're feeling down (hugs) but I'm still feeling very hopeful for you

[luvmyfam]

Pbn I really hope this is it for you this month!! When do you think you will test? We will both be 6 dpo today I believe! I was thinking of maaaybe testing on halloween.

Hopper I really hope you get your BFP!! If you don't I would keep checking for possible ovulation because when we decided to TTC # 2 of course I had a wonky cycle. I ovulated on CD 45!! Then I conceived DS 2 :). But really hoping to see a BFP from you soon!!

AFM the ovary pains I was having had gone away, now just having occasional twitches/pains in them. Still not really sure what to think but it probably doesn't really mean anything I guess. I am just getting so impatient in this TWW!

[Pbn3]

Thanks luvmyfam! I hope we all do get our bfps! As for testing I've actually put one aside for morning (6dpo) [emoji23] I'm kinda hoping common sense will prevail so I don't waste a test but I have another three so...... lol

[luvmyfam]

Haha!!! I fully expected you would say you weren't testing until later (12dpo) or to tell me I shouldn't test as early as 9dpo!! Hmmm maybe I will test on Friday then:think:! My hubby keeps asking me everyday... "Do you fee pregnant?" :rofl:.

[hopper]

Stark white bfn girls. Actually feel a little relieved that I don't have to feel guiltyvfor drinking at the weekend lol. Am gonna go online and order more IC opks and hpts so I am not so wasteful next cycle whenever AF shows. Speaking of the witch I have a really bad back pain which is usually indicative of AF or O, really hoping its AF cause otherwise we missed it! Of course my body would decide to be stupid when we are actively TTC!!

[Pbn3]

Glad you have an answer hopper even if its not what we were hoping :(

[hopper]

Very similar charts pbn!!!! Have everything crossed for you my dear :)

[hopper]

My temp has dropped a little today [emoji20] im not going to bother testing. I secretly felt so hopeful this month but now I know it's not happening. Really don't know what's the matter with me!


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You are not out hun, not by a long shot. I'm no good at charts but a single dip not below coverline could be anything. Really hoping you see your bfp this cycle xx

[hopper]

Glad you have an answer hopper even if its not what we were hoping :(

Lol its strange to say this, or write this, but up til the weekend I wanted it to be a bfp so bad. Then after drinking so much on Saturday I am pretty glad in a way its a bfn. The only thing I am sad about is LE for another cycle!!! Oh the thoughts of it, especially after my cheats every day for close to a week now!!! Back on the wagon today, overall condition and all that ;) If only AF would arrive I would be doing a jig with happiness!!!!

[Poptart32]

Thankyou! PBN and hopper! My cervix has changed today too so I'm really not very hopeful but maybe the bloods will be more conclusive!

Sorry to hear about your BFN hopper and PBN TRY and wait til you're a bit further on if I were U but I know what you're like [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[mammacass]

Sorry your back is still giving you grief Pbn must be hard to hold off on the anti-inflamms! Hopefully it will be worth it and you will get your BFP!!

Poptart I'm with the others in saying that drop isn't necessarily anything to worry about - still above cover line and at 8dpo could shoot back up tomorrow x

Hopper I am feeling frustrated for you lol so confusing! AF or BFP - time to show your face lol




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[Quinn31]

Can I get some professional temping advice? I woke up very briefly at 1am and fell back asleep within 5-10 minutes. Then my dd woke me at 3 so I temped and it was 98.5. My other dd woke up at 4:30 so I temped again and it was 98.5 again. Should I keep 98.5 at 4:30 since it's close to my 5:00 testing time or adjust the temp from 3:00 since it was 3 or more hours of sleep for the most part? Confusing I know!


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[Pbn3]

Quinn I would just stick to the 3am temp and/or make a note of what the adjusted time would be. I'm no professional at charting but this is what I would do :) what dpo are you on?

[Quinn31]

Poptart I looked at a ton of charts yesterday and so many bfps had multiple dips, the main goal was to be above the cover line.

Pbn, everything is crossed for you and test away!! I remember my chemical and that horrible feeling of being so close and then it's gone. The good thing I remember reading is most people get pregnant after theirs. Within 3 cycles maybe?

Hopper I hope you get some answers and can get out of limbo! We can do another month on our diets and can still cheat a couple times.


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[Quinn31]

Quinn I would just stick to the 3am temp and/or make a note of what the adjusted time would be. I'm no professional at charting but this is what I would do :) what dpo are you on?

I'm 9dpo. This is the adjusted time chart.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/28/484ccc91a3c16f093b2f91f6f0e4d2c2.jpg

And this is if I left 3am time not adjusted.
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Obviously I like the adjusted one but hate that it's not accurate.

I will say yesterday at 3:30 my temp was 98.3 and today 98.5 is higher so that's good!! Although I've read it can nosedive too. [emoji53] this is my first and only cycle temping!!


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[Pbn3]

Yeah I think the adjusted temps are too great of difference so I've always just gone with my first even it its 3 hours or so earlier. Just been super lucky this cycle waking up either side of 5am every morning and ds2 stopped fussing during the night :) Either way your chart is looking great! When are you testing?

[ImmiNAddi]

Hi Gals, I had a blood test today (5dpo) to make sure I had ovulated (which we knew I already had but this is what they do for a tracked cycle). The FS rang today and said my progesterone was really high which could mean there were 2 eggs!! Eek!
She said that my numbers are looking great for a pregnancy and she believes that will be the outcome - which I find a little scary, not sure why, maybe because I thought I would be done ttc after this cycle? Who knows!

She said not to test until the day Af is due which is next Fri (like that's going to happen lmao!!!! :rofl:

Pbn, I hope your back eases up soon - nothing worse than being in pain and unable to take anything for it xx

[Pbn3]

Oh my goodness Immi!!! Hooray! Fx she is spot on with getting your bfp!! Twins hmmm eeeeekkkkk alright!! (My eeek would be the oh no not the jumping with joy kind lol) how do you feel about that possibility?

[ImmiNAddi]

Oh my goodness Immi!!! Hooray! Fx she is spot on with getting your bfp!! Twins hmmm eeeeekkkkk alright!! (My eeek would be the oh no not the jumping with joy kind lol) how do you feel about that possibility?

My eek is the same as yours!!!!!! I'm just going to have positive vibes for just one!!!

[Poptart32]

You girls are so positive - Thankyou im such a negative nelly [emoji23][emoji107]

Immi that is amazing news! I'm so happy for you. Were you going to call off all ttc after this cycle? X

I had my progesterone bloods done an hour ago x


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[Nann3r]

So I've been reading through the whole conversation and forgive me for being a total noob... But can anyone explain what I should be looking for during my 2WW?? I've never been in a 2ww before so idk what to look out for when charting! Granted I'm only 2dpo but I'm just curious for then next week what signs I should watch out for!

[Nann3r]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/28/6e263f02ab4acef61306e34b3f86f241.jpg

I'm not GREAT with my charting. But just enough to follow my ovulation schedule. So now that I'm in a 2ww I'm not totally sure what to do on my chart. And what information is important anymore or not!

[Quinn31]

Immi that sounds great. I can't believe they are so vocal when talking to you. I had an ultrasound yesterday and she wouldn't even tell me how my lining looked. I would rather have someone open.

Nann I know nothing about charting. This is my first month charting longer than confirming O so hopefully someone can help you.

This is my chart taking out the adjusted temps for yesterday and today. It makes me sad because I would like to see what they would have been two hours later when I was supposed to take them!! http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/28/b6e880e53c3edb485649b5a45edf79c3.jpg


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[luvmyfam]

Sorry about your BFN hopper. Hope your body gets it together for next attempt!

[luvmyfam]

Immi that's awesome! Hope you get your BFP!

[Ttc2015]

Nann I'm the same, not sure what to look out for or when is the earliest I can test. I'm not charting anything as I have never done it before and could see it being a bit stressful for me. I think I'm only 2 dpo, but I am feeling completely shattered, not normal tired, totally sapped of energy and having to haul myself up to get places. Have kept exercise up this week but for the first time found it super hard, legs like lead.

[Foxcubblue]

Hi Gals, I had a blood test today (5dpo) to make sure I had ovulated (which we knew I already had but this is what they do for a tracked cycle). The FS rang today and said my progesterone was really high which could mean there were 2 eggs!! Eek!
She said that my numbers are looking great for a pregnancy and she believes that will be the outcome - which I find a little scary, not sure why, maybe because I thought I would be done ttc after this cycle? Who knows!

She said not to test until the day Af is due which is next Fri (like that's going to happen lmao!!!! :rofl:

Pbn, I hope your back eases up soon - nothing worse than being in pain and unable to take anything for it xx

Hurrah Immi!!! FX this is it!!!

[Nann3r]

I meant to chart my temp but I forgot and did a quick workout just now! So if I temp I know it'll be high.. Oh well. One day won't ruin it all I suppose.

Yeah I'm not sure when to test either. Like I said, last time AF didn't show up. So I waited till I was a full week late and then tested. So idk when the earliest I could test!

[Foxcubblue]

So, my bodily weirdness continues.

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Temps have now been up for three days, so I guess I have ovulated after all?! I'm so certain it happened on Friday rather than Sunday, but my thermometer just doesn't agree!! Who knows?! :shrug: At least my body seems to have managed to ovulate and although our BDing schedule was not as good as I had hoped given when I thought it would happen, stranger things have happened than a boy from attempts on 0-4, O-3 and 0-2, right?! clinging on to hope!!

[ksmom]

Gosh this thread moves fast!

Foxcubblue, I think your attempts are totally fine for blue! Three attempts in the fertile window is great. :) My DS2 was conceived with three attempts around O. Timing doesn't really matter anyway, just number of attempts.

Hopper, sorry you got a BFN. Hopefully AF will start soon so you're not in limbo.

Nann, the earliest you could test would probably be 9DPO but that's still really early. If you're worried about wasting tests, wait until around 12DPO at least. Really the only thing that needs to be tracked during the TWW are temps. CM and cervix position don't matter as much then since they can't really tell you anything.

Congrats Immi, great news!!

CD9 for me today and my temp is up for two days in a row now...what?? It's been up in what's normally my post-O temps but surely I didn't ovulate on CD7?! That's impossible, right? My body must still be out of whack. :( My pre-O temps are usually between 97.0-97.9 and post-O between 98.0-98.6. My chart is in my siggy if anyone wants to have a look.

[Quinn31]

Ladies I'm worried. My doctor called after my ultrasound to say that I am good to start Clomid and they suspect a cyst recently burst because there was fluid present. Could I still get pregnant on a cycle where a cyst burst?

I must have ovulated if my temperature has gone up correct? I'm not sure if a cyst can negatively impact a pregnancy from happening


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[ksmom]

Quinn I don't know much about that, but I did google it out of curiosity. There were some ladies that had a ruptured cyst w/ leaked fluid but were pregnant and some were put on progesterone. There were others who weren't pregnant as well. Then there was a pregnant woman that had fluid leaking from her cyst but it was still intact. Sorry I can't be more helpful! You definitely o'ed from the looks of your chart. Maybe you should ask Atomic as she probably can give you a better answer.

[Quinn31]

Thanks so much ksmom! That's a perfect idea.


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[luvmyfam]

Very bloated and moody today. Could be PMS. Im so impatient!

[Quinn31]

What dpo are you? I'm moody and it's always s sign of af for me. [emoji53]


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[luvmyfam]

Im 6 dpo. Im usually moody the week before af too. Now Im feeling crampy too.

[ImmiNAddi]

You girls are so positive - Thankyou im such a negative nelly [emoji23][emoji107]

Immi that is amazing news! I'm so happy for you. Were you going to call off all ttc after this cycle? X

I had my progesterone bloods done an hour ago x


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Pop tart, have you heard your progesterone results yet?

Yes, this is my last cycle ttc. I have only had 3 cycles where I actually 'attempted' but have been on the 'I want a girl' bandwagon for over a year now and I'm exhausted.... One failed HT attempt and one miscarriage thrown in to test me - I think I'm ready to get on with life with my boys :wink:

[Poptart32]

No in a couple of days they said.

Wouldn't that be weird if you fell on the last month you were ttc! Amazing but weird! All the best, and when are you testing? X


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[Quinn31]

Immi would you not try/not prevent for awhile?

I got more bad news. The corpus luteum cyst I have produces progesterone which would explain my high temps this lp. Boo!


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[luvmyfam]

Quinn a corpus luteum cyst is formed from the folical that you ovulate from so that means you for sure ovulated. The CL is what secreats progesterone in early pregnancy to maintain your pregnancy until the placenta takes over. If you're not preggo it just re absorbs. Sorry if I'm telling you something you already know.

[Pbn3]

What do you all think, a shadow of a line or an illusion created by two tones of white. I'm thinking the latter but doesn't stop me from looking at it every 5 minutes [emoji23] http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/28/e2ef08ac8229b548c333eada237be4ff.jpg
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[essnce629]

I'm sorry Pbn3 but I don't see anything. But I know you're SUPER early LOL! Try again in 4 days!!!!

[Pbn3]

Super super early essnce [emoji23] lucky you all know I'm a little nuts with poas!!

[Quinn31]

Thanks luvmyfam. Does that mean it stops producing progesterone if you're not pregnant when the cyst bursts? I just read if the cyst remains it can delay af by producing more progesterone and I don't want that so I was hoping it would be done when it ruptured. Sorry if that's confusing.

Pbn I feel like I see something but now I think I see something on everyone's test so I must have line eye.


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[Pbn3]

Thanks quinn I think I'm suffering from line eye too!

[ImmiNAddi]

No in a couple of days they said.

Wouldn't that be weird if you fell on the last month you were ttc! Amazing but weird! All the best, and when are you testing? X


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Oh gosh, they are keeping you hanging... My bloods were done at 9am and Dr called at 12.30ish same day!

I want to wait til at least Sunday to test which will be 9dpo, but will see if the 'sticks' get the better of me on Sat :wink:

[ImmiNAddi]

Immi would you not try/not prevent for awhile?

I got more bad news. The corpus luteum cyst I have produces progesterone which would explain my high temps this lp. Boo!


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No, I don't think so, I was pretty 'technical' with charting and opk's and tracking through the Dr (didn't need it, but she has been great and that extra confidence in what I'm doing... lol), so I don't think I could just wing it and hope that it was a pink one (even though I think that is what swaying is kind of... a lot of luck). But I swayed hard to be able to tell myself that I did everything in my power to get a girl and not ever wonder 'what if.....' AND I need to get off this LE diet - been on it since April, which feels like forever and I've had enough of it. Had doritos (corn chips) and salsa for bfast yesterday! lol Go health!!!

I don't know anything about the cysts but I hope it's not causing you any discomfort xox

[luvmyfam]

Thanks luvmyfam. Does that mean it stops producing progesterone if you're not pregnant when the cyst bursts? I just read if the cyst remains it can delay af by producing more progesterone and I don't want that so I was hoping it would be done when it ruptured. Sorry if that's confusing.


Yes, if it ruptures it decreases and AF starts or it is reabsorbed. Im a little confused though..... did they say the cyst that you had rupture was a corpus luteum or did you have a cyst rupture and you also have an intact corpus luteum? If you have an intact CL that doesn't go away, most likely you ARE pregnant. If they saw it on ultrasound shortly after ovulation it just means you did ovulate and you could be pregnant and it will either absorb if you didn't conceive or it will remain until your placenta is ready to maintain the progesterone levels on its own. Hope this makes sense :).

[luvmyfam]

Pbn I don't think I see a line yet, but its harder to see on a screen and you're 6 dpo :rofl:!

[Pbn3]

I know luvmyfam!! I'm just a poas nutcase [emoji23]

[Pbn3]

A few days ago I was feeling pretty blase about the 2ww now I literally could wish the time away. I've had pinching cramps today but on the lh side (weird because I had very sharp o pains on the rh side). My cm is quite wet and creamy whereas this time last cycle it was thick and pasty - sorry if tmi!!!!! Any of my fellow 6dpo'ers have anything to report?

[ImmiNAddi]

There must be a few 6dpo's!!
I felt a bit blurk this morning when I woke up and needed a piece of toast (my first bfast in months!). It was the first sign I had for my last BFP back in June so it's got me thinking.... As for Cm, I have noticed there is more than normal as I wear panty liners to just 'stay fresh' thought the day and I've changed it a couple of times today.
Wishing the weekend was here already!!!

[Pbn3]

Sounds promising immi! I also forgot to mention my bb's feel hot to the touch and somewhat fuller than the usual saggy sand sacks they are as I call them lol. I know these symptoms are not possible at 6dpo to mean anything but hey a girl can dream right? Fx for us both! I'll be ridiculous one and test again tomorrow [emoji23]

[ImmiNAddi]

I only have sad sacks too :sad: so I don't feel anything there!!! Lol Actually my term for them is 3 month old balloon....you know the one you find behind the lounge 3 months after the Bday party...Yep - that's me after breastfeeding 4 kids!!! :rofl:

I might join you at 8dpo with the sticks :wink:

[Pbn3]

Hahaha!! 3 month old balloons! What a perfect description of mine too!

[Pbn3]

I 'used' to be an e cup size now I'd be lucky to be a c I reckon!!!! I haven't bought new bras yet lol always knew I'd be trying for one more dc. I rather like having smaller bb's but would be nice if they stood to attention [emoji23]

[ImmiNAddi]

I 'used' to be an e cup size now I'd be lucky to be a c I reckon!!!! I haven't bought new bras yet lol always knew I'd be trying for one more dc. I rather like having smaller bb's but would be nice if they stood to attention [emoji23]

E!!!! Holy Dooley! Lol I would of loved me some C's, but it was B's for me....and now maybe A's on a good day :sigh:

[Pbn3]

In saying that I have lost 22.4kg since around sep last year (weighed 84.8kg my heaviest ever). I started le diet in march at 72.4kg (had lost 12.4kg from sep-mar doing my own thing via mfp) and when I weighed o day this cycle I was 62.4kg. Been yoyo-ing around 61-64 for last 3 cycles. I think that definately attributed to my boob loss lol!! But I was a solid 'dd' prior to ds1 and hated that I couldn't wear anything kinda low cut as I'm just not good at cleavage lol feel too self conscious! So I'm more than happy with a 'handful' as the saying goes [emoji23] dh even said I could get a boob job down the track but I think he's thinking bigger (probably reliving the old days) but I'm all about smaller [emoji23] and what beautiful clothes I could wear!!!!

[netti02]

Pbn i had O pains after O and cm the same as you described fx fx fx fx fx well done on the weight loss

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

[Pbn3]

Thanks Netti! I'm hoping so much!!

[Poptart32]

I see something PBN but looks awfully thin? Those FRER's are rubbish for Evaps and indents but defo keep testing!!! As if U needed telling!

Temp went up today [emoji57] tested yday.. BFN may test tomorrow or sat [emoji106]


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[Pbn3]

Thanks poptart! That photo was taken at close to 10mins (just b4) so yes quite possible evap line :). Yay for temp rise amd will be very excited to see your test results over next few days! Just out of curiosity what time is it where you are? Its 6.45pm here :) on Thursday

[Poptart32]

It's 8.45am! Nursery time in fact [emoji23] best dash!!! [emoji125]


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[Quinn31]

Yay poptart the temp rise is great! I had a huge dip today at 10 dpo. I'm thinking I'm out since af starts in 2 days.


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[Pbn3]

Quinn a huge dip at 10dpo could also be an implantation dip! Wait till tomorrow mornings temp b4 counting yourself completely out :)

[Quinn31]

I took a test to confirm and it's the whitest bfn ever. I think with my shorter lp it would need to implant earlier. I'm going to move over to the November testing board. Good luck everyone! Hopefully I don't see you there. [emoji6]


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[hopper]

I don't see anything pbn but like the ladies have said it is sooooo early lol. I love the addiction, I am a fellow sufferer ;)

Hoping that dip doesn't mean you are out Quinn!

Had a really horrible day yesterday (my PayPal was hacked and my bank didn't cop it as quick as they should have so the guy who did it got away with a substantial chunk of cash - I know I will get it back but have had to cancel cards and spend ages on the phone with PP and bank, it was just so not needed!) And couldn't get an appointment at my GPS office to have BW done as they are understaffed with nurses being out sick atm! Waiting on GP to ring me back since yesterday afternoon, it's Thursday AM here now and still nothing. I am wondering if this has been an anovulatory cycle now and half wondering can my GP even do anything to help me. I just want my stupid AF to come so we can at least attempt rather than being stuck in limbo like this!! Had a bit of a cry yesterday, just from frustration. It didn't really help! On top of this I have gained over 2lbs in a week, feel so unmotivated right now. Sorry for the moan girls :(

[Pbn3]

Huge hugs hopper!! Wow that certainly is a day from hell! Really hoping you get some answers regarding your cycle what an awful limbo to be in! Vent anytime you like here - that's what we're here for! Hope today is a good or great enough day to forget yesterdays crappiness!

[hopper]

Thanks pbn x I hope it is too! You know what would make it amazing - if AF decided to finally arrive lol! I swear I'm not asking much, any other month and I'd be wanting the witch to stay away but I just want to get an attempt in in November as the closer to an end Aug/start Sept 2016 due date I get the less chance we have at even trying. I just feel if I don't get to at least try one more time then my whole stint on LE since May is just a waste cause I don't see how I can keep it up much longer. I am so done. Started so well and was fine until recently, this just has me thrown so off!

[hopper]

Oh and I missed the call from my GP, he called at the exact same time as DH so both calls went to voicemail!! Annoyed doesn't even cover it!

[luvmyfam]

A few days ago I was feeling pretty blase about the 2ww now I literally could wish the time away. I've had pinching cramps today but on the lh side (weird because I had very sharp o pains on the rh side). My cm is quite wet and creamy whereas this time last cycle it was thick and pasty - sorry if tmi!!!!! Any of my fellow 6dpo'ers have anything to report?

Officially 7 dpo today (its 9:15 am here now). Last night I was laying in bed with what felt like AF cramps. My cm is creamy to dry so not too promising yet! I do feel a little nauseous, like I need to eat breakfast but Im holding out as long as I can.

[hopper]

:running::running::running::running::running: The witch arrived!!! November train here I come lol! What are the odds of early O after such a wacko cycle? What should I say to my GP when he calls back? Will I say my last two cycles have been weird - Sept one was short and LP shorter than ever at 9 days, Oct one was, well did I even O? Cause looking back at my app I had no signs of O since the Friday after I got the smiley opk, no fertile CM, cervix closed constantly. I'm beginning to think I didn't O at all. Back on LE wagon today, Wondfo opks have been dispatched so once I actually O this cycle its full steam ahead! Thanks for the support the cycle girls, really hoping for one or two final bfps this month xxx

[ksmom]

Yay for AF Hopper!! It feels weird saying that on this board LOL I'd give the doc a heads up on what's been going on with your cycles. I was having short anovulatory cycles back in Aug. and Sept. so Atomic gave me some advice on how to fix it and it must have helped because I ovulated and got pregnant shortly thereafter. I hope November is our month! I'm so over this diet too!

[hopper]

Yay for AF Hopper!! It feels weird saying that on this board LOL I'd give the doc a heads up on what's been going on with your cycles. I was having short anovulatory cycles back in Aug. and Sept. so Atomic gave me some advice on how to fix it and it must have helped because I ovulated and got pregnant shortly thereafter. I hope November is our month! I'm so over this diet too!

Thanks hun :) I had never even heard of anovulatory cycles til I consulted Dr Google with my lack of AF and lack of fertility signs. I am so hoping this month is better, third months the charm right ;) Finger xed November is our sticky pink bean month ksmom xx

[luvmyfam]

Yay hopper!!! Now you can move on to November!! Hopefully you and ks both get your bfp's next month! Not sure where I am yet for next month.

[ksmom]

Luvmyfam, cramping at 7DPO sounds like a good sign to me. :) I had the same thing at 7DPO last cycle then bfp three days later. I've got my FX for you!

[Poptart32]

Quinn I too had BFN! Couldn't hold on! I have on FRER left so gonna wait Til 13dpo [emoji120]

Hopper sounds so weird saying it but glad AF got you and GL for this cycle! X


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[hopper]

Quinn I too had BFN! Couldn't hold on! I have on FRER left so gonna wait Til 13dpo [emoji120]

Hopper sounds so weird saying it but glad AF got you and GL for this cycle! X


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lol deffo weird to say it but I'm delighted!!! can't get pregnant if I'm not getting my AF!! Sorry you got a bfn hun but hoping that your last FRER will give you a lovely bfp. I'll still be stalking you and pbn and the others due to test later this week xx

[Quinn31]

Poptart you chart looks great! There's still hope for you. My first temp taken 2.5 hours before my usual time was below the cover line. Luckily I feel back asleep and when I took it again it was higher but I know now I'm still not pregnant.

10dpo is early to test for some people but with an 11 day lp I would definitely have a bfp by now.


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[Poptart32]

Thanks hopper xx
Quinn.. Sometimes it's easier knowing than waiting around in limbo.. Even if it isn't the outcome you were hoping for. Fingers tightly crossed for next cycle xx

How long have you two been ttc? This will be my third month actively ttc but I'm going in to my 7th month on no BC.. I haven't bothered since my son was born!


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