Pink swayers' September thread

[zanacal]

Hi all - good luck to everybody ttc in September. I'll copy the list over from August, let me know if you'd like me to change anything or you'd like to be added :D

♥ User Name
♥ Swaying Status: Swayer in Waiting, Swaying NOW!, BFP Swayer!
♥ TTC DC # ....
♥ Your approach to pink sway:

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♥ zanacal
♥ Swaying Status: BFP 11th September at 10dpo - praying AF stays away!
♥ TTC DC # 4. We have 3 boys aged 21 months, 4 and 5.
♥ Your approach to pink sway: I'm hitting the low-everything diet hard and hoping to lose 3 stone in 3 months, DH will release twice each day leading up to O and we'll have a one off attempt around O. Rephresh every 3 days after AF, Acijel a few hours before attempt, possibly Sylk and a JAD. Vitex, Saw P, baby aspirin, antihistimine and folic acid for me. Licorice root and cranberry for DH.

♥ Swish
♥ Swaying now!!!!
♥ Ttc dc #3
♥ I'm doing the low everything diet with frequent release then bding very day through ov. I'm doing rephresh every 3 days and taking folic acid, vitex, saw palmetto and aspirin. Dh is taking liquorice root. I'm also updating my original attempt. No rephresh, no vitex or sp. Adjusting le first to maintain current weight!

♥ LadyScarlett
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW!
♥ TTC DC #1
♥ Your approach to pink sway- I'm doing a semi-LE diet (already lost 30 pounds over the past 6 months, so only have a few to drop). Planning frequent BD (once AF leaves the station) with a 2-3 day cutoff. Rephresh (1/2 app) every 3 days through O. Antihistamine for 4-5 days up through O and taking daily Folic Acid and acidophilus (sp). DH was willing to give up beer and coffee while we TTC and he basically eats the LE diet as well with me. Hot showers before BD, fan on in bedroom, and will TRY not to O while BDing (sometimes hard to avoid that). Just updating my original plan- dropping Rephresh unless PH shoots up (I tend to stay pretty low) and hoping to BD through O rather than a cut-off. LE diet adjusted just to maintain weight rather than keep losing.

*Emmy2012
*Swaying status: Swaying Now in Tww
*TTC#6 I have one daughter 15, son 12, a son that lives with his dad 9, son with my 2nd dh almost 3, and son with 2nd dh 1
*do the LE diet hardcore never more then 950 calories, I was awesome until after I o'd..I have had a few bad days, never ate breakfast but lots of sweets after lunch...getting back on diet tomorrow hardcore, I am 5 dpo today. I did 14 day abstain 2 day cutoff, then had dh release twice a day until a O+12 attempt. I douche'd and used rephresh every 3 days, hot baths for dh, aci-jel before and after only O+12 attempt. Vitex, Saw Palmetto, baby aspirin, folic acid....taking b6 in tww for progesterone.

♥ happyheart
♥ Swaying Status: Hoping September is our month!
♥ TTC #4
♥ LE diet, frequent release, no O, Clomid, possibly a little preseed if needed due to the clomid, BD through ovulation, hot showers, taking folic acid and fiber, tons of diet caffiene free coke and CL and DH semi-LE diet. Also for fun I am using an ionizer on the computer, leaving ceiling fans on, and wearing rose quartz bracelets everyday.

♥ Legacy_19
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW!!!
♥ TTC #3 (I have 2 boys that are the loves of my life - 11 and 4)
♥ LE diet, frequent release, no O, hot showers, Clomid, folic acid, mag., calcium, cranberry, and DH semi LE diet, cranberry, mag., calcium. First month on Clomid days 3-7. Currently on CD 16 and had my first positive OPK!

♥ Yuzu
♥ Swaying Right this Moment!
♥ fx for DC #4 ( I have 3 sons ages 23, 20 and 9 months)
♥ I'm doing the low everything diet with supplements like folic acid, using ion bracelet and rock salt lamp and ionizer

♥ Mochagirl
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW!!!
♥ TTC #4 (I have 5 year old identical boy twins and a 2 year old boy)
♥ Low Everything diet (4 months and counting now, and 20 lbs lost), frequent release, BD through O, Saw Palmetto, Vitex, Baby Aspirin, Benedryl/Zrytec + lots of aspartame around O. We just finished our 3rd month TTC, and are due to O around September 10th. I'm really hoping this is our month - we've now dropped both Sylk and Rephresh from our sway. My psychic reading called for a pink BFP in September - here's hoping she's right!!!

♥ User Name XXdreaming
♥ Swaying Status: Swayer in Waiting, Swaying NOW!, BFP Swayer! umm I am not sure lol af is due around aug 17th and will start swaying then
♥ TTC DC # 5
♥ Your approach to pink sway: still researching, I plan to sway twins and for a girl lol but even if I just get twins with no girl would be still awesome, I am doing soy iso days 2-6, then doing vitex on cd7 to O, doing 2000mcg folic acid, azo cranberry says I can take max 4 pills(2 in morning 2 at night) zyrtec and possible benedryl to dry up cm, thinking about b6 to help lengthen lp and raise progesterone levels, I know I take a buttload of pills will have to double check all what I am taking lol, I am also going to *try* to do the girl diet, and cut my calories drastically and no excercising, and did 0+20(was very past O actually surprised I conceive) but ended in m/c so wondering if maybe egg was to old? to survive so will not be doing that, will do cutoff maybe cd12? since O around cd15, and no big O for me lol but like I said still researching and planning

♥ User Name - Out of the Blue
♥ Swaying Status - Surprise BFP while taking a break from the diet/TTC – Due 3-30-2012 We will be waiting until birth to find out the gender…
♥ TTC DC # - #3 (probably our caboose) We have two boys ages 3ish and 1ish...complete opposites but they love playing w/eachother!
♥ What I was planning on doing before I got my surprise BFP…

I really think low blood sugar and low testosterone are key!
Low Everything diet (vegetarian or vegan) until a BFP
No prenatals
No calcium sups
Chitosan and/or lots of fiber sups
Lots of Peppermint Tea (iced, hot whatever!)
Vitex
Zyrtec if needed
Frequent release w/BD AF – O
RepHresh
Sylk
Missionary w/no O…boring!

FWIW stuff:
Still BF #2 (so no aspirin for me)
Quit watching sports or anything else on T.V. which would appear to raise my T levels and tried to watch “girly” shows (definitely not my norm but thought it couldn’t hurt)
Quit playing T raising games on my Ipad
Thought lots and lots of girl/pink thoughts
Wore a pink bracelet to remind me of my girl
Quit working out as I could not do enough cardio to sway pink
Quit yoga & abstained from building any muscles
Lost 25 lbs last summer and a few more before TTC…Was 2lbs away from my lowest weight as an adult and 25+ lbs lighter than when I conceived both our boys
rock salt lamp next to our bed
pink bow on my closet mirror

I took non-fish DHA and Raspberry Leaf Tea which may sway blue but I thought the benefits outweighed the sway. I also was diligent about taking folic acid and I frequently took acidophilus. Unfortunately I had quit the diet for 1-2 wks and then started it up again a few days before I O'd. When we BD, we used a bit of Sylk but no RepHresh b/c I was lazy and I had no idea I could get preg by DTD a week or more before O. Surprise!!!

♥ mandicane
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying now! First attempt will be next weekend!!
♥ TTC DC # 2
♥ Your approach to pink sway: Frequent BD/release from AF through O, J and D. DH taking cranberry and licorice root, hot shower before BD. Rephresh, baby asprin, antihistamines, sylk, LE diet, no breakfast, crystal lite, diet coke. Trying hard not to eat meat (not very sucessful at this). Have lost 50lbs over the past year so trying to lose just a few more. Lavender oil, outfit under bed Good luck to you all!!!!

♥ User Name- Lena
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW!
♥ TTC DC #3, currently have 2 beautiful boys 1 and 3 years old
♥ Your approach to pink sway: Trying to loose some weight, no breakfast, no O, DH release every day, BD every second day, Rephresh on the day we are not BD, baby aspirin, crandberry supps and juice for DH, calcium, mag, baby aspirin, cranberry for me, Hot bath for DH before attempts, clomid for me, ironizer on the computer, wearing negative iron braclet, pink suit under my pillow, wooden spoon under bed. FINGERS CROSSED I get my little girl this month

♥ User Name Pink dreams
♥ Swaying Status: Swayer in Waiting
♥ TTC DC # .... 3
♥ Your approach to pink sway:I am trying to work out the diet taking cal/mag etc.. tons of crystal light. plan on using sylk while BD, using lavender anything I can find, rock salt lamp, fountain, candles, ion bracelet, basically anything negative ion generating I can find My DH is onboard with taking the supps too (tired of hearing me say how much I want a he'll do anything at this point I think LOL) Plan on using O + 12, I am also entertaining any wives tales I can find

♥ User Name: Tweedledeedum
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW! (month three)
♥ TTC DC # 3. I have two boys.
♥ Your approach to pink sway: I converted to the LE concept after the first month of IG style swaying. I am BFing a 2 year old super nurser and have had LP issues. I am now taking Vitex and cranberry (I know baby aspirin would be better but i'm still BFing). I am using Rephresh and/or Replens depending on my mood to keep PH below 5. This month I BDed right through O for the first time after trying cut offs the last two months.

♥ User Name: Rainbowflower
♥ Swaying Status: Swayer in Waiting (is this the right one for someone doing the diet but not TTC yet?)
♥ TTC DC # 2
♥ Your approach to pink sway: Going to give it my best shot! Very excited about TTC for a change lol
Currently temping, using OPKs... next cycle I might start using my CBFM but I'll be starting vitex then too and my last 2 cycles have been very long (OV on CD28 and then CD31 in 1st then 2nd respectively) so maybe I ought to wait with the CBFM as the sticks are so expensive!
Doing the LE diet at the moment

♥ User Name: MaybeOne Day
♥ Swaying Status: Swayer in Waiting - planning to TTC in October so have started my 6 week lead up
♥ TTC DC # 3 - DS1 - Jan 08, DS2 - March 10
♥ Your approach to pink sway: Lose weight by reducing portions and cutting snacks and missing breakfast. Take SP and Vitex. Use Rephresh before attempt and sylk as a lube. DH will to frequent release and will DTD with about 2 day cutoff but if that gets too stressful will wait for a smile before DTD. Will take antihistimines around our attempt.

♥ User Name - Chicky
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW!
♥ TTC DC # 3. I have 2 boys.
♥ Your approach to pink sway: I am doing a strict IG diet (although I will probably add in some caffeine free diet coke to my sway), O+12 with tbm using a DC. Will do a little acijel before and lower with lime as needed. Dh is abstaining. Lots of neg ions.

♥ User Name - Indira
♥ Swaying Status: Now! Third month
♥ TTC DC # 3.
♥ Your approach to pink sway: LE diet but trying to gain weight so, no breakfast and no snacking, LE lunch, normal dinner tendentially more carbs and low fat (I do eat fish, chicken and eggs but try to keep protein low the rest of the day), late night snack of rice cakes and white chocolate icecream (yoohoo!). 2-3 cups of coffee with sweetener during the day.
Trying to be less competitive in life and relax more. I take SP every other day, zyrtec around O, maybe a little sylk, DH abstains (if we don´t DTD too early). a lot of showers, for fun I have a salt lamp and a - ionizer on laptop and in the car.

♥ User Name mommy2lilmen
♥ Swaying Status: Swayer in Waiting, Swaying NOW!, BFP Swayer! swaying now
♥ TTC DC # .... 7
♥ Your approach to pink sway: I will be doing supplements, calcium, magnesium, folic acid, vitamin c, cranberry, be drinking crystal light, will be having milk, cutting out all pop and chips and red meat, will be eating chicken, rice, rice cereal, rice puffs, strawberries, cucumbers, will be bding 2 days befor o and after o with a bit of canola oil for lube and a douche prior and after, Im due to ovulate in a couple of weeks so wish me luck. this will be my first sway, hope it works.

♥ User Name: Dannikins
♥ Swaying Status: Swayer in Waiting (I think thats right, started the diet & supps etc)
♥ TTC DC # 5
♥ Your approach to pink sway: diet and supps, weight loss, sylk and rephresh, ionozer, lavender, basically anything that im told will help....

[zanacal]

So now I'm wondering if maybe I haven't ovulated yet at all as my cervix is still high and soft! My digi OPK was negative but when I took the cartridge out the line was still very dark. Maybe I had an LH surge but not enough oestrogen to ovulate. I think we'll leave it for now either way and just go with a cut-off of a few days if indeed it hasn't happened yet. I guess that's the benefit of attempting on O day, if you're mistaken and you O late at least you're still in whereas if you aim for a cut-off and you O late you're screwed!

I'll just relax and make the most of a few less pills to take each day for a couple of weeks!

[tweedledeedum]

Hi girls! I haven't been posting much but I have been following all of the posts. I am 3DPO right now. I Oed early this month and ended up BDing on O day twice! I'm sure my pg chances are increased but I hope I did enough to sway girl to counteract that.

♥ User Name: Tweedledeedum
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW! (month three)
♥ TTC DC # 3. I have two boys.
♥ Your approach to pink sway: I converted to the LE concept after the first month of IG style swaying. I am BFing a 2 year old super nurser and have had LP issues. I am now taking Vitex and cranberry (I know baby aspirin would be better but i'm still BFing). I am using Rephresh and/or Replens depending on my mood to keep PH below 5. This month I BDed right through O for the first time after trying cut offs the last two months.

I have lost 20 lbs but my weight seems pretty stead these last few weeks. I did a little more relaxed diet this month (no tracking) but tried to avoid protein, limit salt and skipped breakfast. I am getting tired of dieting and just want to be pg with a girl!

We are doing bstinence until after AF, then switching to frequent release.

And I have about three girl outfits under the bed. I figure it can't hurt, right?

[Mochagirl]

Z - I need to update the last part of my intro:

Low Everything diet (4 months and counting now, and 20 lbs lost), frequent release, BD through O, Saw Palmetto, Vitex, Baby Aspirin, Benedryl/Zrytec + lots of aspartame around O. We just finished our 3rd month TTC, and are due to O around September 10th. I'm really hoping this is our month - we've now dropped both Sylk and Rephresh from our sway. My psychic reading called for a pink BFP in September - here's hoping she's right!!!

[Mochagirl]

Z - I really trust in that smiley face more than the lines. I usually get only one positive with the smilies, but when I keep testing with ICs they start almost positive for a couple of days, even if I'm fairly sure I O'd. Once I get that smiley I just assume O is imminent and start paying super close attention to my body's signals and temperatures (though I've only been doing this for the past month). Are you temping at all?

[zanacal]

I'm not temping and I've no intention of starting either - I'm obsessed enough as it is :D I have kind of inflamation in my lower tummy this evening which I always thought I got right when I O but maybe I get it afterwards! Either way, I'm happy that I either ovulated during the night or at some point today so all is well. I only use the smilies now too, I don't need to spend hours each day trying to decipher how dark a line is!! I just read about you upping aspartame close to your attempt - last night I think I drank 2 litres of diet pepsi!!

[rainbowflower]

♥ User Name: Rainbowflower
♥ Swaying Status: Swayer in Waiting (is this the right one for someone doing the diet but not TTC yet?)
♥ TTC DC # 2
♥ Your approach to pink sway: Going to give it my best shot! Very excited about TTC for a change lol :)
Currently temping, using OPKs... next cycle I might start using my CBFM but I'll be starting vitex then too and my last 2 cycles have been very long (OV on CD28 and then CD31 in 1st then 2nd respectively) so maybe I ought to wait with the CBFM as the sticks are so expensive!
Doing the LE diet at the moment

[Mochagirl]

The main reason I'm going to up aspartame is because I'm dropping rephresh and sylk, but I'm sure your diet pepsi consumption will help your sway too. I drink one can daily as an afternoon treat when my stomach starts grumbling, but I think around O I'll drink a couple cans + chug several glasses of Crystal Light.

[zanacal]

Yay rainbow, you're here :D

[zanacal]

The main reason I'm going to up aspartame is because I'm dropping rephresh and sylk, but I'm sure your diet pepsi consumption will help your sway too. I drink one can daily as an afternoon treat when my stomach starts grumbling, but I think around O I'll drink a couple cans + chug several glasses of Crystal Light.

I drink way more than that, nasty habit I've got into which I'll stop as soon as I get a BFP! When I'm not drinking coke/pepsi I drink sugar free (ie. aspartame sweetened!) fruit cordial.

[Mochagirl]

I just worry about getting too much caffeine. I drink coffee in the morning, and I would let myself have two cans of diet pepsi maybe, but after that I'd start worrying that the caffeine would make it too hard to get pregnant in combination with everything else I'm doing. I'm also the type of girl who can't have caffeine in the evening or it affects my sleep. I've thought about picking up some diet gingerale or something like that for the evening.

[zanacal]

I don't think it affects my sleep, although I did have that awful migraine a couple of weeks ago and I wasn't sure whether to blame the aspartame or AF, maybe both! I guess it's something I might consider if it's taking a while to get pregnant but I've always drunk alot of tea and been ok, so fingers crossed. You don't like the caffeine free version?

[Mochagirl]

You know - I've never tried the caffeine free version. I suppose I should pick some up.

[zanacal]

It's not as good but not bad either and will give you the aspartame without the caffeine :D

[maybeoneday]

Hi girls,

I was hoping I could join you on this thread. I am a positive newbie to this (despite reading everything for months!) and am planning to TTC in October (I know the worst month for TTC a girl but it works for the school year as only want a 2 year gap!)

♥ User Name: MaybeOne Day
♥ Swaying Status: Swayer in Waiting - planning to TTC in October so have started my 6 week lead up
♥ TTC DC # 3 - DS1 - Jan 08, DS2 - March 10
♥ Your approach to pink sway: Lose weight by reducing portions and cutting snacks and missing breakfast. Take SP and Vitex. Use Rephresh before attempt and sylk as a lube. DH will to frequent release and will DTD with about 2 day cutoff but if that gets too stressful will wait for a smile before DTD. Will take antihistimines around our attempt.

Think that is about it! Looking forward to getting to know you all.

[zanacal]

Sounds great maybeoneday, good luck! I too only want 2 school years between DS3 and this next baby if I can help it.

[Mochagirl]

Welcome, maybeoneday!

[DoulaMama]

Hello Girls!! Z- You can take me out of the first post;) I read my little intro and had a good laugh! So much for my attempt!! LOL ETA- Please and thank you!!!

I'm really excited for you gals to join me over in the pregnancy threads!! It's quiet over there!!!
xoxo

[XXdreaming]

I have actually decided to cut out vitex all together this cycle just becuase I think thats what caused me to have buckets of ewcm(sorry tmi) when i normally dont produce much, I have added rephresh in my sway, I end up doing soy iso cd1-6,
cd1- 80mgs(wanted to know how it bothered me or side effects)
cd2- 160mgs (was still scared to do the 200mgs lol read to many side effects and it scared me lol)
cd3-6 200mgs(so I got 3 days of 200mgs no side effects just mild headache on cd6)

I did 6 days because I didnt think cd1 counted since it was the normal 80mg dose lol and I wanted to make sure I got a good twin sway, I am on cd12 and normally O on cd15 to cd16, i was thinking that I might O early because a lot of woman who took SI said that it did move O up,

[XXdreaming]

:)

[swish]

Lol, dm! It made me laugh too! Can't wait to join you on preggers threads!M
Welcome, maybeoneday
Z, fx for you now, come on bfp!!!!
Mocha, sorry I keep worrying you! I think everyone reacts differently to things so I'm sure you're fine on the vitex. That's why thus swaying is soooo hard as it's not a one size fits all thing!

[rainbowflower]

I've tried to post about temping here twice... my cycles are unpredictable and I find it very stressful not knowing what's going on and when/if I've ov'ed.

Zana when I was TTC for the first time (before my MC) I tried temping and found that incredibly stressful too. I'd wake up before the alarm earlier and earlier each day from the anxiety of having to do the temp, and then spend hours poring over the chart trying to figure it out and comparing it to other charts. I gave up temping after a couple of cycles. However I'm now temping again and actually it is LESS stressful temping than it is not knowing. Perhaps it's because we're not TTC yet, perhaps because I'm more experienced at reading charts now... not sure, but I'll be carrying on when we do start TTC as it seems like a very easy thing to do to get good reassurance that OV is happening. Hopefully I can find out exactly how long my new luteal phase is this cycle (I suspect it was 4 days last cycle)

[Mochagirl]

This past month I found it comforting to have temps to back up my thoughts about when O had happened. I found I was always second-guessing myself, so it was nice to see FF agree with my opinion. I may or may not temp after O this month, though - it's sad when your temps get your hopes up and you end up with a BFN.

Oh, and swish - I'm just a worry wart by nature, so I'll find something to worry about with or without your help! :sigh:

[zanacal]

I've tried to post about temping here twice... my cycles are unpredictable and I find it very stressful not knowing what's going on and when/if I've ov'ed.

Zana when I was TTC for the first time (before my MC) I tried temping and found that incredibly stressful too. I'd wake up before the alarm earlier and earlier each day from the anxiety of having to do the temp, and then spend hours poring over the chart trying to figure it out and comparing it to other charts. I gave up temping after a couple of cycles. However I'm now temping again and actually it is LESS stressful temping than it is not knowing. Perhaps it's because we're not TTC yet, perhaps because I'm more experienced at reading charts now... not sure, but I'll be carrying on when we do start TTC as it seems like a very easy thing to do to get good reassurance that OV is happening. Hopefully I can find out exactly how long my new luteal phase is this cycle (I suspect it was 4 days last cycle)

I'm pleased the temping is working out for you this time rainbow (and isn't too stressful!). I did buy the stuff to temp this time around but I hated doing it and I kept forgetting to leave a pencil buy my bed or I got up for the loo 20 times in the night ... and even using OPKs is more than I've ever done in the past! I get very extreme ovulation pains so I always know more or less when I've ovulated - or at least that I have ovulated even if I'm not sure which pain means what!

[zanacal]

Ladies, I need your advice please!

DH wants to DTD again tonight (sheesh!) and my first reaction was no because we already did it this morning and I only wanted one attempt to make sure 'my' sperm count was low. However - if I've already ovulated (and I'm sure I have because my OPK was negative this afternoon and my cervix is now low and I have those pains) will the sperm from this morning already have reached the egg (if they're going to at all) or at least cap(whatever)ated and be on their way? Chances are my egg is either fertilised or dead by now - but if it's neither then am I increasing 'my' sperm count by DTD again tonight? What happens to the sperm when the egg dies, do they instantly die too? Could it be that I only have a few sperm there now and they're 'working on it' but by introducing some new sperm I'm upping the count and giving the boys a better chance? Does that even make sense?!

[Mochagirl]

I don't have any answers for you - I just have to say WOW about your dh. Didn't you say he's been releasing twice a day since af?? And he STILL has the energy for more?? :rofl:

I suppose it's different for you because he's been taking care of himself (soooo jealous about that, btw), but I always declare the week after O as a penis free week. I need a break after all that BD, even if he doesn't!

[LolaInLove]

Hi Pink Ladies! Just wanted to pop in and say that I am sending loads of pink dust your way for September bfps! xoxoxo

[Mochagirl]

Awww...thanks, lola. You're welcome to ALL my blue dust!!

[zanacal]

Thanks Lola - sending a whole bunch of blue dust back to you guys!

I can't believe he wants to do it again either mocha! He's taken care of himself most of the time but I've assisted on occasion and we've DTD with a condom but, yes, I'm glad not to have had to do it every day (or twice a day!) too! Yesterday he released 3 times, with the final time being our attempt, and he did struggle to 'finish' so I don't think we'll do that if we have to try again next month. Twice is plenty lol!

[Mochagirl]

Ugh! I just realised that our trip to my Mom's house this weekend is going to mean yet another weekend of meal stress. There will be family members coming and going all weekend, tons of meat will be eaten, and everyone's already going to be noticing how much weight I've lost (many haven't seen me in many months). I hate the stress I experience at every meal in a situation like that. Luckily, I have an ally in my Mom, but she can only do so much. I can easily have a girl-friendly lunch every day since we all tend to do our own thing at lunch, but dinner will likely consist of BBQ meat every night. O is still a week away, but I'd still rather not have any major cheats like meat, but at the same time I'm running out of tricks, lies and excuses for not partaking in the family meal. We're there for 4 nights, so that's a lot of meals I have to get out of somehow. Sigh. I am soooo ready for all this swaying stuff to be done.

[happyheart]

♥ happyheart
♥ Swaying Status: Hoping September is our month! :)
♥ TTC #4
♥ LE diet, frequent release, no O, Clomid, possibly a little preseed if needed due to the clomid, BD through ovulation, hot showers, taking folic acid and fiber, tons of diet caffiene free coke and CL and DH semi-LE diet. Also for fun I am using an ionizer on the computer, leaving ceiling fans on, and wearing rose quartz bracelets everyday.

[happyheart]

Ladies, I need your advice please!

DH wants to DTD again tonight (sheesh!) and my first reaction was no because we already did it this morning and I only wanted one attempt to make sure 'my' sperm count was low. However - if I've already ovulated (and I'm sure I have because my OPK was negative this afternoon and my cervix is now low and I have those pains) will the sperm from this morning already have reached the egg (if they're going to at all) or at least cap(whatever)ated and be on their way? Chances are my egg is either fertilised or dead by now - but if it's neither then am I increasing 'my' sperm count by DTD again tonight? What happens to the sperm when the egg dies, do they instantly die too? Could it be that I only have a few sperm there now and they're 'working on it' but by introducing some new sperm I'm upping the count and giving the boys a better chance? Does that even make sense?!

Wowza! :) :) I do not know but... wow good for your dh! :) :)

[happyheart]

Ugh! I just realised that our trip to my Mom's house this weekend is going to mean yet another weekend of meal stress. There will be family members coming and going all weekend, tons of meat will be eaten, and everyone's already going to be noticing how much weight I've lost (many haven't seen me in many months). I hate the stress I experience at every meal in a situation like that. Luckily, I have an ally in my Mom, but she can only do so much. I can easily have a girl-friendly lunch every day since we all tend to do our own thing at lunch, but dinner will likely consist of BBQ meat every night. O is still a week away, but I'd still rather not have any major cheats like meat, but at the same time I'm running out of tricks, lies and excuses for not partaking in the family meal. We're there for 4 nights, so that's a lot of meals I have to get out of somehow. Sigh. I am soooo ready for all this swaying stuff to be done.

(((Hugs))) mocha!

[happyheart]

welcome maybeoneday! :)

[Chicky]

Joining you ladies!

♥ User Name - Chicky
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW!
♥ TTC DC # 3. I have 2 boys.
♥ Your approach to pink sway: I am doing a strict IG diet (although I will probably add in some caffeine free diet coke to my sway), O+12 with tbm using a DC. Will do a little acijel before and lower with lime as needed. Dh is abstaining. Lots of neg ions.

Mocha I totally hear you about the stressful meal weekend. We have a family birthday, 2 cookouts, a bridal shower, a wedding, and family reunion in the next 2 weeks! No idea how I am going to get out of eating at all those things. Hopefully there is chicken at all those!
I am currently on cd 42 and haven't O'd :( I was taking SP but stopped it almost 2 weeks ago. No idea what is going on but hope to O soon so I can start my first attempt!

[LadyScarlett]

Just updating my original plan- dropping Rephresh unless PH shoots up (I tend to stay pretty low) and hoping to BD through O rather than a cut-off. LE diet adjusted just to maintain weight rather than keep losing.

Here's to September!!

[swish]

I'm also updating my original attempt. No rephresh, no vitex or sp. Adjusting le fist to maintain current weight!

[Indira]

♥ User Name - Indira
♥ Swaying Status: Now! Third month
♥ TTC DC # 3.
♥ Your approach to pink sway: LE diet but trying to gain weight so, no breakfast and no snacking, LE lunch, normal dinner tendentially more carbs and low fat (I do eat fish, chicken and eggs but try to keep protein low the rest of the day), late night snack of rice cakes and white chocolate icecream (yoohoo!). 2-3 cups of coffee with sweetener during the day.
Trying to be less competitive in life and relax more. I take SP every other day, zyrtec around O, maybe a little sylk, DH abstains (if we don´t DTD too early). a lot of showers, for fun I have a salt lamp and a - ionizer on laptop and in the car.

Hope AF shows up really quickly Chicky!

Mocha, I so understand you being fed up of having to explain your weight loss and not eating meat to people and then watch them eat yummy things :hug2:

[zanacal]

Hi all - I think I've updated everything but let me know if I've missed something!

Has anybody heard from Out of the Blue? I think I'll have to track her down and see that she's ok!

That's so difficult mocha. I'm sorry that something which should be enjoyable is being made so awkward for you.

We didn't DTD again last night. DH says he just doesn't get it and how do I think I'll get pregnant if I don't want him to have sex with me?! I can see his point ...

It's my DS1's 6th birthday on Sunday so it's going to be a busy weekend here, which I'm glad of - anything to stop the 2WW obsessing is a blessing! They're also back to school on Tuesday (and the summer has finally arrived today - a month too late!) so it'll be my DS2's first ever day at school. They're growing up so quickly. They picked up some free Playmobil computer games at the toy shop this morning and want the laptop so I'm going to hand it over and get out in the garden and do some much needed pruning.

There are so many of us ttc in September, I really hope it's a good month for us all!

[swish]

Z, I think o oftb might be feeling rough with ms and therefore not on much. I'm also wondering about purplepoet? My ds1 is starting school on wed, he looks so cute in his uniform! Happy birthday to ds1. Hope you can keep distracted in the ww!!

[Mochagirl]

My big boys start senior Kindergarten in a week, and ds3 is starting a once a week morning preschool next week too! I'll actually have one kid-free morning a week - for the first time since having kids!

[XXdreaming]

Wow how exciting mocha! I wouldn't know what to do with myself on that kid free morning lol might take up a hobby, no actually I think I would take a nap haha, I am still waiting on a kid free morning! So jealous ;)

[zanacal]

I can't believe I'll only have one child home with me on my day off work ... must do something about that :D

Thanks for letting me know about OofB swish. I think purplepoet has been poorly, she was posting on the 2ww thread about a week ago. Hope she's ok.

[rainbowflower]

morning everyone, how are we all today?

I'm 5dpo today and had a significant temperature drop this morning... I wonder if AF is on her way. She arrived at 4dpo last cycle so I was really hoping to have lengthened my LP more than that this cycle as I'm taking a bit more B6. We shall see! So glad I'm not TTC right now or this would be really stressing me.

[fresas]

Uh oh.

I didn't think I would need to visit this thread, but we had an "oops" because I'm fairly sure I ovulated about 3 days sooner than I thought I would. Neither of us did a sway either because I was going to track how things go on my current supplements, get DH started on supplements if necessary, and do some other adjustments like ordering better pH strips, repHresh , try temping a little bit more. I'm a little bit freaked out.

I haven't been able to test CM pH this time around or DH's sperm's pH. My pH strips have gone missing. My temping has not been very successful either. I couldn't find repHresh in the stores and I had no lime juice or vinegar in the house to make an emergency douche. I had to go to work right away after we DTD. I still jumped and dumped, I have been alternating between Zyretec and Benadryl, and I'm not eating a lot, but I rarely do anyway.

We DTD but DH didn't finish. I know that pre-ejactulate can contain live sperm, though. About 3 hours after that, I checked the CM and cervical position/feel and it was definitely looking and feeling fertile friendly. The day after is probably most likely when I ovulated because the CM was very clear and there was a lot of it and cervix still felt the same. I was also bloated which tends to happen to me around ovulation.

I'm still having some EWCM but definitely not as much as the past 2 days.

O_o

I really don't know what to do or think. Do you ladies think I should stop taking Vitex and SP for now? I'm thinking it is unlikely I conceived, but... gah! :worry:

[fresas]

I'm sorry for being so rude, but I forgot to say good pink luck to everyone swaying this month! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

fresas, I don't usu. check this thread but I just happened to see it. If DH didn't finish, it's super unlikely that you are preggo. Studies have shown that withdrawal is actually quite reliable means of birth control when used right...most of the oopsies are because of "pilot error" and not because of the tiny amounts of sperm in the pre-ejac. It takes millions of sperm for only a tiny handful to survive to make it to the egg, the odds that such a small amount of sperm could statistically survive to enable enough to make it to the egg and fertilize it (because it takes more than one sperm to penetrate the egg) is very slim.

I would prob. stop the vitex and SP just in case, but honestly, I think you're in the clear.
Good luck

[atomic sagebrush]

morning everyone, how are we all today?

I'm 5dpo today and had a significant temperature drop this morning... I wonder if AF is on her way. She arrived at 4dpo last cycle so I was really hoping to have lengthened my LP more than that this cycle as I'm taking a bit more B6. We shall see! So glad I'm not TTC right now or this would be really stressing me.

rainbow, I just happened to stumble into this thread which I normally don't check, and I just wanted to reassure you that short LP is quite common while breastfeeding and the B6 and vitex if you're taking that, will set things right in time. GL.

[Indira]

morning everyone, how are we all today?

I'm 5dpo today and had a significant temperature drop this morning... I wonder if AF is on her way. She arrived at 4dpo last cycle so I was really hoping to have lengthened my LP more than that this cycle as I'm taking a bit more B6. We shall see! So glad I'm not TTC right now or this would be really stressing me.

I was ready to say ´implantation dip!´but then I read you´re not TTC yet lol.

[rainbowflower]

Atomic - I'll be starting vitex whenever AF turns up this cycle!

Indira if only! lol - we did DTD unprotected on the 2nd day of my temp rise, (i.e. 2DPO) so certainly not holding out much hope of implantation from that :)

Fresas - if he didn't finish in there it is unlikely... fingers crossed for you, though

[fresas]

Atomic and Rainbow, thank you for your responses. That makes me feel a little bit better.

I stopped the vitex and SP just in case. I'm still taking my other supplements (MVI, calcium + D 600mg/200, benadryl or zyrtec, metformin 500mg, cyclobenzaprine as needed, and ritalin as needed).

I also examined the cervix again today and it is definitely no longer accepting sperm donations as it is high and hard. I really don't like touching my cervix, just fyi. ;)

If I did not happen to conceive, I'm going to buy all of the things I said I would buy for next cycle. I definitely want to feel as prepared as possible.

[Chicky]

Started Vitex yesterday. Hope it helps bring on O. CD 46 for me today. Last night my opk turned super dark but it was after the ten minute window (it was def neg before ten minutes but I checked it again sometime between 10 minutes and an hour later). So hoping it's a good sign but I've had that happen before so not getting my hopes up too high. Like Swish, I think I dropped too much weight and wasn't getting enough calories and I think that's what caused my O to be so delayed. So I've switched from fat free milk/yogurt to reduced fat to get more fat and calories. And I treat myself to some ice cream. Don't really want to gain any weight cause I know that's not good for the sway, but I am way lower than my lowest adult weight so hope that's enough (I am 5'6 and my lowest adult weight is 130...I started my sway at 135 and am now down to 120). I am planning a baby shower this month and my ODS is starting preschool so hoping that by keeping my mind off my lack of O and the sway in general that I will lower any sway related stress and hopefully that will help bring on O too.

[zanacal]

FX Chicky and fresas x

[swish]

Chicky, I'm so sorry this is happening to you, it's rubbish. If you really think the weight loss has caused no ov you must eat to gain a couple of pounds back. After all no ov means no baby regardless of swaying!! In the end my period came I'm pretty sure I didn't ov at all as I kept a close eye on cp and know it was firmly closed, low and hard. Gl, I hope af shows soon!

[rainbowflower]

still waiting for AF here! 7dpo today and another temp below coverline this morning, so expecting the witch any time now. At least 7dpo is an improvement on 4dpo last cycle... and I'll be starting my vitex this week! :D

[swish]

That's good news that it's lengthened, rainbow!

[rainbowflower]

it's a step in the right direction :)
I upped vit B6 from 30mg to 50mg this month... do you think I should stick at 50 and just add the vitex or add the vitex and also up the B6?

[Mochagirl]

Ok, so I just checked at cervix is SHOW with TONS of EWCM and cramping. I just tested with two difference ICs and got clear negatives, but I'm worried that with all these other strong signs O might be imminent and I might miss my egg if we don't dtd tonight. I have two digis left from last cycle, but I really don't want to buy more since they're $50 a box here in Canada. I was going to wait to use them until the ICs showed an almost +, but I just don't know how much I can trust my 'normal' timeline since I've just started taking a full dose of SW this week after taking only a half dose for a couple of months. I'm only on CD10 and have never ovulated earlier than CD13. Do you think I'm safe to save my digi until tomorrow and trust in the IC? I'll test again with an IC this evening, but I usually get a fade-in, and both tests barely had any line at all. We weren't planning to dtd tonight since we need to start on a compressed frequent BD run before we can make our attempt.

[zanacal]

I don't know mocha - but since taking Saw P I ovulated twice much earlier than ever before (cd13 then this month cd11). Do you ever get a burst of EWCM a few days before you O? I often get that 3 or 4 days in advance - but my cervix wouldn't usually be SHOW at that point. I think if I were you I'd use a digital because you'll be so sick if you somehow miss O this month!

[Indira]

Mocha I would trust that IC if your urine was concentrated enough.
Or if you want to be sure to not miss the egg, have him release once, then DTD this evening and continue frequent?
I had EWCM and a soft, open cervix on Cd8 but I haven´t ovulated yet, IC didn´t turn compl. positive.
I think it was a spike of estrogen but not enough to ovulate.
It is interesting that you seem to O early, because we were O buddies last cycle, remember? and unlike previous cycles in which I o-ed on CD 20, 17 and 16, now it looks like I´m going to O early too, today Cd11 and a lot of EWCM.
Maybe we´re both following the moon in some way?
Or perhaps after 3-4 months on the diet, after a first ´shock´ our bodies recover in some way and make up estrogen more easily??

[Mochagirl]

Well, danger averted - I found an extra stash of digis in my medicine cabinet, so I decided to use one today. It was negative.

That's interesting about our cycles, Indira - I wonder if it has something to do with our reaction to the phases of the moon? I'm just disappointed I have so much EWCM this month - last month I hardly had any and thought it was a good sign that the diet was changing my chemistry.

Z - I normally get EWCM and have a soft, open cervix for a few days before I O, so I'm not completely surprised by the -, but thanks for the info about how SP might change my cycle - I think I'll test 3 times a day with an IC and once a day with a digi from here on out to make sure I don't miss an early O.

[XXdreaming]

OT a little, but what does "FX" means? lol I cant find what it means anywheres lol

[zanacal]

OT a little, but what does "FX" means? lol I cant find what it means anywheres lol

Fingers crossed :D

[swish]

That's good, mocha! X

[zanacal]

I found my cycles alternating between early O and late O (the last 3 were cd13, cd15, cd11) and the ones where I ovulated earlier I had more O pains and more EWCM. I just wonder if those are the more fertile months - and perhaps the lack of EWCM was good for your girl sway but not good for getting pregnant mocha! I like Indira's idea about releasing once today then beginning frequent BD every night until you've ovulated (you could do that again tomorrow like you suggested on your other thread but I wouldn't give yourselves a hard time over it - it'll only raise your testosterone!!).

[Mochagirl]

I was tempted to do that - release once then dtd tonight for real, but I thought that wouldn't be enough for frequent bd? Instead I thought we'd better release twice today (once on his own, once on a condom), then dtd tomorrow for real (maybe even after having him release one more time). In all honestly, though, it would make my life soooooo much easier if we could just release once then start with our attempts. As I've said elsewhere, dh is really starting to lose patience with me with all this swaying stuff.

[zanacal]

I think you have to go with your gut feeling - I think maybe I'd want to do something else to lower count if I wasn't doing frequent BDing in the strictest sense, maybe a little Sylk or one dose of Rephresh now and not again, but I know you dropped those. Rainbow made a really good point that those things may do as much to lower count as frequent BDing does and that both may be too much for some couples. Whatever decision you make will be the right one for you!

[Mochagirl]

Hmm...good point. I admit I was eying my Rephresh today and thinking about using a fingertip full today since anytime after today I'll be cutting too close for comfort. Maybe I'll use a little after all and just have dh release once before we dtd. I'm going to steer clear of the Sylk again, though - I just think it was too much in combo with the Rephresh!

[zanacal]

I agree one or the other - and at least with Rephresh you can use it once and not worry about it again. GL mocha - the diet is obviously doing the biggest chunk of the swaying for you. I know it may have lowered your fertility 'too' much but perhaps with relaxing on the frequent BDing and just using a little Rephresh in its place that may tip the scales and get you your BFP -with the diet still lowering your fertility to get the balance right between swaying girl and actually getting pregnant!!

[Mochagirl]

You're right - I was thinking of dropping frequent BD if I didn't get pregnant this month anyway. Maybe I'll just figure I've dropped frequent BD instead of Rephresh this month, and maybe that combo will work for me.

[zanacal]

I really, really hope so. Now get busy :D

[Mochagirl]

Ok, I used some Rephresh (just a fingerful) and had him release. Now I have to decide whether or not to dtd for real tonight, or whether I'd be better to use a condom. I have a feeling he'd think I'm crazy if I suggest he put on a condom since the whole point is to get pregnant, so maybe we should just go for it. I'll let you all know tomorrow what I decided!

[zanacal]

GL mocha!

[Mochagirl]

I decided to have him release again in the evening instead of dtd - I just want to make sure I have no regrets about my sway. He's at work now, but when he gets home I *might* ask him to release once in the early evening, then dtd for real before bed. Either that, or we'll just dtd without the extra release - I'll see what his mood is when he gets home.

Do you think if we do 3 releases then dtd we can just dtd once every day from here on in and consider ourselves caught up with frequent bd? Or do we have to bd twice a day through O at this point?

My cm has turned that same cloudy/watery it did at O last month, and my cervix is no longer SHOW. m change is due to the Zyrtec I took last night since it's a dramatic change since yesterday. I think I would be worried I missed O except I still haven't gotten a positive OPK and my temp was still very low this morning. I think O will come on schedule on Friday or Saturday.

[zanacal]

I honestly don't know mocha, I wish I did! If DH is willing to release by himself in the mornings and you DTD in the evenings then that's great but from what you've said I don't think he'd be impressed with that suggestion. I know you were against a JAD but I do wonder whether DTD just once each day with a JAD might have a similar effect without the pain in the arse of having to do it twice (or having DH fed up with the whole thing!).

[Mochagirl]

Hmmm...I'll have to give that some thought. I definitely wouldn't JAD for all my attempts (I just NEED to get pregnant this cycle or I think I'm going to go completely batty), but I could do that until I get my +OPK, at least. I just feel like JAD is taking a step backwards when I'm trying to find ways to make it more likely I'll get pregnant. I just wish there was some way of knowing exactly how important low sperm count is to the overall sway. I like to think my 20lb weight loss and diet changes will sway more powerfully anyway, + I used the Rephresh and am downing Diet Pepsi from now until I O.... I'm also happy that the EWCM seems to be disappearing with the Zyrtec, which will help, right?

I'm always so stressed in the days leading up to O! I always feel better once the deed is done and the power is out of my hands.

[zanacal]

If you're not convinced on the frequent BD/low sperm count and you're confident in the other parts (and I think you're right to be!) then forget about the stress and just do it how ever many times you need to do it to get in a few attempts around O - you've been BDing through O (and very close to O before that) so perhaps lowering sperm count is why you haven't been getting pregnant at all!

My DS2 said today 'what if you lay another baby mummy'. (I've tried telling him that mummy's give birth to babies but he always refers to it as laying a baby :D) I said 'would you like that?' and both DS1 and DS2 say yes, so I ask whether they would like a boy baby or a girl baby. DS1 says he wants a boy baby and DS2 says he'd like a girl baby and just as I'm going all squishy inside at how cute he is he says 'then when she's older we can play with her bras and knickers!'. For goodness sake, he's 4 years old!!! So at least I have some little people who'd be very happy for me to make another little boy and perhaps I should be worried about bringing a girl into a house filled to the brim with testosterone (and I think that includes me!!).

[swish]

Lol, z, I love that, so cute!!! Boys are truly fab!!! Mocha, I'm not chiming in with the frequent bedding as I have no idea, sorry!!!! I do however think that you arebdoing so much to sway and over kill on the releasing/bedding may mean not getting pregnant at all. Af over for me so I'm starting the frequent bedding again soon and keeping my fx that I ov this month!!!

[zanacal]

I feel like my advice should come with a health warning too mocha - obviously I have no clue and am just regurgitating what I'm read on this site and what makes sense to me. I know you know that though!! We all just want you to get pregnant now :D

You too swish, my goodness you've waited a long time for this next attempt!!

[swish]

I know!! It's a joke, got to laugh though! So much going on in the real world at the moment I'm not too focused on my lack of pregnancy!

[zanacal]

Sorry to hear that, I hope it's nothing too serious and that all is ok x

[Mochagirl]

Ok, so I managed to convince DH to release one last time tonight before we dtd. That makes 3 times he's released in 24 hours. I still haven't gotten a +OPK, but as I think I should get one tomorrow or the next day. We're going to dtd tonight, then *if* I can convince him without any tension I'll get him to release again tomorrow before we dtd, but if he's not keen, we'll just dtd without him releasing first. We'll probably do the same thing the next night, and again the next day until I know I've O'd. I think I can feel ok about that plan.

CM is still that weird, creamy/watery mix I had last cycle. It's weird that I had EWCM briefly then it went away - anyone ever have that before? I'm also a little concerned that cervix was SHOW then went back to firmer and lower, though still open. I don't think it's possible I missed O (temps are lower than ever), but I can't help but be a little nervous.

[swish]

Mocha, your body can try but fail to ovulate a few times before it succeeds (I think it's if oestrogen is low but I'm not sure) have you stopped saw palmetto, if not, that might help. Again, I'm no expert, maybe start a thread??
Z, think everything is ok, just had loads going on, my dad is not well but now seeing specialist so hopefully ok. My nanny is in a home, very old now but not happy so hard on my mum and my mum is just generally finding it all hard to cope with, she was quite unwell about a year ago and I think it's just all a but much. I'm sure it'll all work itself out, we're all just used to my mum being the centre and rock for everyone so it's a bit weird!

[zanacal]

Gosh, that's alot going on at once swish, I hope it works out and calms down for you all soon. Your poor mum must feel terrible with both her husband and her mum having difficulties at the same time.

That sounds good mocha, good luck to you and DH this month.

I'm feeling really down today, I'm convinced we're going to get pregnant with another boy - and whilst that doesn't make me feel sad in itself (a boy would be wonderful and fit in just perfectly here!) I feel as though I'm already saying goodbye to my non-existent daughter. Silly really ...

[Mochagirl]

swish - sorry you're dealing with all that stuff.

Z - sorry you're feeling down. I have lots of days like that, where I feel like this 5 months of sacrifice has been for nothing, and I'll never get my daughter.

On a positive side, my cervix is softer and more open than ever today, and there's a bit of EWCM again (though some may be semen from dtd last night). I think I'm going to get my +OPK today.

[swish]

That's good news, mocha
Z, sorry your feeling rubbish, I really hope it's not that prediction creeping into your head!!! You have just as good a chance as anyone else, maybe more as you already have 3 lovely boys, I am CONVINCED you will get your little girl, chin up!!! Xx

[zanacal]

Thanks guys.

swish - I think we stand less of a chance because we have 3 boys already, probably because everybody else I know with 3 children has 2 of one gender and 1 of the other and I suppose I feel like we missed that boat!!

mocha - I can't wait for you to join me in the 2ww :D

[Mochagirl]

Z - we can only do so much to weigh the odds in our favour, after that it's out of our hands. We are all doing SO MUCH that if this doesn't work, nothing will (except high tech, which isn't an option for us). I'm sick of hearing EVERYONE tell me I'll just keep having boys if I try again, but part of me feels that may be true. One thing I noticed a while back is how rare it is to see a family with same gender twins have another child of the opposite gender. I see SO MANY families with twin girls and another girl, or twin boys and another boy. Part of me worries that there's some reason for this and it's going to be doubly hard for me to get an opposite.

However, I keep grasp of a small hope because of my Mom - she had 3 boys then had me. Maybe fate wanted me to have the same family as she did? At least if I do have a girl I'll be able to give her lots of advice on the joys and pains of having 3 older brothers!

I think you have a great chance of getting your girl, Z - if I thought it was impossible, then I'd have to accept the same thing for me. I've heard of lots of families with a girl after 3 boys, and hopefully you and I will join their ranks very soon.

[zanacal]

Aww, thanks mocha, just what I needed to hear!

Btw, I had a friend pregnant with twin girls and she has both a DS and a DD :D

[swish]

Girls, I know more families with 3 of one then one of another, including my mum! I don't know many with 2 then an opposite. Mocha, I also know 2 families with twins of one gender and other children of another. We ALL gave a good chance!!

[Mochagirl]

I didn't get my +OPK today, even though I was sure I would. My cervix is now completely soft and so open I could stick my whole finger in there (don't worry - I didn't:suprise:). CM is EW and abundant. I'm going to test again this evening, but I suppose it doesn't really matter if I miss my surge since I'm BDing through O and have already started. Still, I love seeing that smiley to confirm all my body's signs. At least I'm temping again this month so I'll be able to see from my temps if I've O'd.

I haven't decided whether or not to get DH to release again tonight before we dtd. He's been surprisingly compliant the past couple of nights, probably because I've helped a bit with the process :oops:. I'm not going to use any more Rephresh even though it will wear out tomorrow and I think at this point I'll O Saturday...I just don't want to have fresh Rephresh in there this time to kill all the sperm.

[Mochagirl]

Yay! I think I just got my +OPK! I usually test 3 times a day, but I forgot to first thing this morning. About an hour after I woke up, I peed again and tested with an ic, and it was almost positive. I'm going to hold my pee all morning and test again at lunch time, but I'm fairly sure I'll get my smiley then. Woo hoo! I'll probably O sometime tonight or tomorrow. I'll make sure to get at least one more attempt in tonight to be sure.

Oh, and I didn't make dh release before we dtd last night. Instead I sort of JAD - I say sort of because I waited maybe 2 minutes before getting up and propped my hips, then got up and let gravity to its work.

[swish]

yay, mocha!!! That's great, xx

[rainbowflower]

go make that baby Mocha!

[Emmy2012]

Woo Hooo Mocha!! this month has got to be your month!!! CD 2 here so I am officially in the TTC in Sept thread! I should ovulate between Sept 20 and Sept 25th, not sure since last cycle was just a mess! Thinking of abstaining from now till cd11 (Sept 18) and then go to freq bd till I get a positive opk. I don't know. Maybe third month will be charm? I think I am going to go lite on the rephresh or not even use at all. Not sure on that one. Good Luck to us all ladies!

[zanacal]

Hoorah mocha - we're all hoping this month will be your month!

GL Emmy :D

[tweedledeedum]

Go get em Mocha - I really hope this is your month!

Emmy - good luck this month, I hope the third time is the charm for you!

Good luck to everyone else too - I have been following posts and hope everyone gets the gender of their dreams (me included!)

I am so confused with my cycle. I am 11DPO. I spotted last night and knew AF was coming. Today I got a faint but visible BFP on a dollarama (dollar store) test. I am not sure if these tests work properly or not - I hope to get another later on. Regardless, the spotting has me worried that things are not sticking properly if I am in fact pregnant.

I am also worried as I Oed early this cycle and BDed twice on O day (like I did with my boys - which were once on O day). I did have other things to sway like Replens, diet, supplements, etc. but I am starting to stress out about timing now. This swaying business is tough - I'm sure I will always second guess something.

[zanacal]

OMG tweedledum! I'm sure the test is working and plenty of people spot or bleed during pregnancy, not necessarily because something is wrong. You have to test again! {hugs} about worrying about the timing of your sway, I'm sure we'll all do the same about one aspect or another. Let us know!!

[Mochagirl]

tweedle - I agree - tons of women spot during early pregnancy and are fine. Test again with a better test!

I just tested with my last digi OPK and got a -. I also used the same sample to test with an ic, and it was a lot lighter than this morning. I wonder if I had my surge overnight and missed it? My cervix is still SHOW. DH is working from home today and my two oldest sons are at school, so we might dtd this afternoon during ds3's nap and tonight to cover our bases. I'm out of digis so now I won't get the satisfaction of seeing that smiley, but at least if my temp goes up tomorrow I think it's safe to assume I O'd.

[rainbowflower]

spotting can actually be a really good sign of pregnancy showing that the baby is implanting well, it doesn't mean anything bad necessarily. Congratulations on your BFP!

[XXdreaming]

Fingers crossed :D

thank you :)

[rainbowflower]

I am famished today... :( counting down the minutes until lunchtime

weighed myself this morning and I've gained a lb since 1.5 weeks ago, so still a couple of lbs down on what I was when I started the diet 2 weeks ago, but the drastic weight loss has stopped!

[Mochagirl]

I'm glad you stopped losing weight too quickly, rainbow.

My plan for yesterday didn't work out so well. We did dtd in the afternoon, thankfully, but dh went out with a friend in the evening, and I stupidly popped 2 Benedryl in addition to the Zyrtec since I had lots of EWCM. Fast forward to 11:30pm, when he got home, and I was passed out in bed with the book I was reading still open. I woke up enough to acknowledge he was home, but I didn't have the energy to even get out of bed to pee, much less dtd. Damn that Benedryl! I really wanted to get 2 attempts in yesterday!

Oh well, I still don't think I O'd anyway. Temp was still down today and I still haven't gotten a true +OPK. Cervix is still SHOW, though not nearly as open as it was last evening when I swear I could have fit my whole finger in. My new higher dose of SP must be delaying O since today is CD14, and I always O on CD13 or CD14. I wonder if I should go back to taking 1 pill (half dose)?

[rainbowflower]

perhaps today is OV day and you just missed the surge on the OPKs?


I know this is a long way off, but what's everyone planning to do around Christmas? I will almost certainly still be TTC then... and that means a lot of roast meals and tasty food will be around :(

[Mochagirl]

I think it's possible my surge happened in the middle of the night 2 nights ago since I had my darkest OPK yet first thing that morning. The OPKs got lighter as the day went on, then I got a slightly darker one in the early evening. I did one with SMU this morning and it was darker than the lighter ones I had yesterday, but not as dark as the one from yesterday morning. Do I even make sense anymore?:think:

As for diet over Christmas, personally I would go ahead and eat the special meals and enjoy them, but maybe only choose a couple of cheat days like Christmas Day and New Year's Eve or something like that. You can't put life completely on hold when you TTC. I'm going to a wedding in 2 weeks and have already pre-ordered the prime rib. I'll either have just gotten a BFP or will have just finished af, but I'm going to eat that steak either way! I'm also planning to eat turkey on Thanksgiving if God forbid I'm still TTC then.

[zanacal]

What a confuddle mocha! If I were you and I was second guessing the hormones or wondering whether O was being delayed by the pills I'd stop taking them 2 weeks into my cycle, so now!

I so hope I'm not on this diet at Christmas but I would definitely 'cheat' on Christmas Day at the very least!

[rainbowflower]

mocha - I think tomorrows temp will be key for you, try to keep busy and not worry about it now!

zana - I hope both you and mocha are well on your way to dating scans/bumps come Christmas-time!

:D

[Mochagirl]

Thanks, rainbow - I agree. I was hoping today's temp would be high, but it wasn't. I still have lots of O signs, so hopefully it'll happen today and my temp will rise tomorrow. I just need to figure out a way to get another attempt in tonight. I'm going out with some girlfriends before the kids are asleep and won't be home till late. DH tends to go to bed early and is very grumpy if I wake him up. Would it be terrible to suggest to him that we put a movie on for our big kids while the youngest naps this afternoon, put up the baby gate at the top of the stairs so they can't sneak upstairs and catch us, and have a quickie? DH seemed quite happy with our afternoon delight yesterday, and this way I can make sure I don't miss O if it happens in the early evening.

[zanacal]

If you think it'll work then go for it mocha!!

[tweedledeedum]

Mocha - I'd go for the afternoon session! I find OPks very confusing - I never got a positive this month but I know I Oed by temps.

As for Christmas - I would eat holiday meals for Christmas Eve, Christmas and maybe New Years and I wouldn't feel guilty! You have to enjoy the holidays.

I still haven't gotten out to get any more HPTs. I took another dollar store test today and it was a darker positive and my spotting has stopped but I won't believe it until I see it on a "real" test. I have been having horrible pain in my cervix too - I have never felt anything like it. And still cramping like crazy. In my previous pregnancies I felt nothing in the early days, maybe the odd cramp, so I'm confused.

[zanacal]

tweedledum, I obviously don't know if I'm pregnant yet but I've had loads of cramping and I also had cramping in the tww with DS3. I wonder if we just feel things more because our bodies have done it before? Mine might be playing a nasty trick on me!

[Mochagirl]

tweedle - I always have cramping for the first month or two of pregnancy.

I'm wondering if part of the problem with my OPKs is all the Diet Pepsi I'm drinking. I think I had about 4-5 cans yesterday, and the stuff makes me have to pee constantly. I try my best to hold my pee for 3 hours, but I usually have had something to drink within that time period (there are only so many hours in a day and a lot of Diet Pepsi to drink). So maybe diluted pee is to blame? That would explain why the darkest one was first thing in the morning, before I'd had a chance to drink anything. I'm trying to hold my pee right now so I can test after lunch, but since waking this morning I've had 2 cups of coffee and 2 glasses of Crystal Light, so it'll probably too diluted to tell me anything. Oh well, I guess I'll just keep BDing until my temps go up.

[Mochagirl]

Yep - just as I suspected - my OPK was even lighter just now, at 12:30, than it was at 8:30 this morning. When I line up all my OPKs, I see a darkening trend up until CD13AM, with a lightening trend up until now. I think I'm going to assume my surge happened in the very early morning of CD13, which would mean O would happen today sometime if I go by previous months. Hopefully my temps tomorrow will prove me right! In the meantime, I'm going to drop SP and Vitex as Z suggested - I'd be dropping it tomorrow anyway if I O, and if I haven't O'd maybe dropping them will help it come more quickly.

[swish]

Hi all,
Mocha, I'd definitely go by temps and just keep bding until you see the rise! Fx for tomorrow!
Z, I am stalking you in 2 ww but have less time to comment at the moment, I'm very excited for you, it all looks very prominsing!!
Rainbow, if I am still on this diet (probably only on my 4th attempt if previous cycles carry on!!!!) I will eat completely normally over Christmas, I do anyway most Sundays.
Tweedle, good news about the spotting stopping. I think we do notice more in the 2ww as we're obsessing over every little thing, you may have had it in previous pregnancies but not noticed it. I had uncomfortable feelings around that area before getting a bfp with ds2. Fx for you, xx

[maybeoneday]

Hi all,

We have had a few days in Disneyland Paris this week and saw so many little girls dressed as disney princesses. That place really is the worst for gender desire in the pink variety! I just can't help feeling that whatever I do, I will get another Buzz Lightyear to add to the 2 we already have.

To cap it all off, I did appaulingly on the diet - the French don't really understand 'vegetarian' but I did drink a ton of diet coke. Oh well back to the hardcore diet this week! I still have some time........

GL in the 2WW Zanacal and FX for a stronger BFP Tweedledum. x

[Mochagirl]

Welcome back, maybeoneday! Hope you had a nice trip, though I understand the difficulty of being surrounded by little girls.

I was very careful this afternoon to stop having drinks for 3 hours before testing with an OPK, and I finally got a definite positive. In fact, my test line is even darker than the control line. So my guess is that O will be one day later than usual and come tomorrow, on CD15. We did get an attempt in this afternoon, and if dh is still awake when I get home tonight we'll dtd again. I'll be sooooo happy to take a break from all this sex when I know O is done!

[zanacal]

Hooray mocha, so glad you're almost done! I hope you enjoyed your girls' night last night too. Good to relax in amongst all this craziness!!

Hi maybe! Would you recommend Disneyland Paris? We'd like to take the children to Florida but I can't see it happening until they're much, much older so I quite fancy Paris in the meantime (if we can ever afford it!). I completely understand how you must have felt with all the cute little fairies and princesses everywhere though! Thanks for your well wishes.

A BFN for me today and I'm going to try and steer clear from testing for a few days as I have none of the sensitive ICs left - and I'm not going to buy any more either!! I honestly have no idea why I'm even testing this early as I've never had such an early BFP before so there's no reason to expect I would this time. I guess you see some other ladies on the site getting early BFPs so you get your hopes up that you should too but it's probaby the exception to the general rule! I'm losing hope by the day thanks to all those BFNs!

[rainbowflower]

zana don't lose hope - some eggs don't even implant until 10dpo and you wouldn't get a BFP for several days after that

[swish]

That's great, mocha, you can rest from all that bding and join the 2ww again!!
Z, don't lose hope yet, I'm counting on you for some good news!!
Hi, maybe! Lol about the french, they do not get vegetarians at all!
Hope everyone else is ok!
I'm on cd 10 so the frequent release starts today, fx I ovulate, I'm nervous!

[maybeoneday]

Z, Disneyland Paris was great. We took the Eurostar from London and it was brilliant. It takes you directly to the gates of Disney so no time wasted. Eurostar is great as well because you don't pay for children under 4. They are supposed to sit on your lap, but we risked it and used empty seats so we all had one. It is pretty expensive though and the Euro rate doesn't help. We did 2 days (one night) but would recommend 3 days (2 nights) if we were to go again as there is so much to see. Hope that helps!

Keeping my fingers crossed for a BFP in a few days Z, don't get down. You are not out yet!
Swish, good luck with the frequent release - I think my DH is looking forward to that part.... xx

[Mochagirl]

swish - I'll send you ovulation dust since I seem to be in the middle of it right now!

I still haven't O'd but I think it's imminent. I still had a strong +OPK last night at bedtime and again this morning. One weird thing about this cycle - I've barely cramped at all - either during af or at O. Normally I'm quite crampy with both. I had a bit of abdominal tenderness yesterday, but I only really felt it if I pressed with my hand on the left side. I also had a tiny bit of an achy cramp, but hardly noticeable at all. I wonder what the lack of cramping means?

[Mochagirl]

Oh, and Z - don't feel down. Those ICs (even the sensitive ones) are crap. I saw a woman on FF last month who had been getting BFNs with her 10miu ics until she tested with a FRER at something like 15dpo and it was a glaring positive while the ICs still showed nothing. It's still early and there's lots of time.

[zanacal]

Thanks maybe, it does sound fantastic!

Thanks mocha. Do you know what, I wondered that about the ICs. I distinctly remember testing with them when I was pregnant with DS2 and I could barely see a line even a week after AF was due. I'm definitely just going to buy digitals in future and save them until AF is almost due. I think the cramp-less O is a good sign that it's a less fertile girl cycle for you.
I feel like I had one of those last cycle (ie. not the one of our attempt!). My O was delayed, I had hardly any cramping and hardly any EWCM. Did you O early last cycle and late this cycle? That's the pattern my cycles have been following too and I feel like the longer, less painful ones are left-sided and vice versa.

Go swish, you really deserve a BFP this month!

[Mochagirl]

Yep - last month O came one day early, at CD13...this month it's CD15. However, last month I hardly had any ewcm, and this month I have tons. Well, not tons compared to what I used to get - I only know it's there because I keep checking my cervix...but what there is of it has been there for days and days now. Also, last month my cramps during af, O AND 2WW were bad and constant and this month pretty much nothing so far. I guess I should take it as a good sign that my cycles keep changing.

[zanacal]

Yes, that's what I've told myself too!

[Mochagirl]

Ok, starting to get REALLY frustrated here. I STILL haven't ovulated! My first +OPK was at 5:15pm on Saturday, and I always O within 24 hours or so of my test. Last night I had some sharp pains on my left side and thought my cervix felt like it was getting firmer, so I was sure I'd wake up to higher temps today, but no. My temp is creeping gradually up so that it's around my normal coverline now, but there's been no big jump. My cervix this morning is still SHOW. I haven't taken an OPK yet today, but I took several through the day yesterday and they all were +.

What's going on?? Swish - when you had your anovulatory cycle did you ever get a +OPK? Was your cervix soft and open for days like mine has been? Here's my chart:

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/22b67e/

I keep begging DH to dtd one more time, promising this will be the last one, then I don't O. So now we haven't dtd since yesterday early afternoon and won't be able to until tonight, so if I O during the day today I'll have a 1 day cut off when I wanted to BD through O....

[swish]

Hi mocha,
I really feel for you, it's so frustrating!
I didn't do opk that cycle as I'd found them to be inconsistent with temp the cycle before and I found them stressful! I did regularly check my cervix and it was show around when ov should happen and then firmly closed. The only thing that indicated no ov w temps(which was why there was always a little 'what if..' for me, I also had ewcm. Keep temping and then you'll know for sure. One thing dh and I did was miss a day here and there and dtd just in case, it depends how much of a risk you feel that is. I used a bit of refresh on those occasions to cover my bases. Got my fx for you, xxxx

[rainbowflower]

Mocha your previous charts look a bit erratic. I wouldn't say they are (or will be) anovulatory... but I'm curious how consistent you are taking your temps. Do you take them orally or vaginally? Same time each day?
I wouldn't say you haven't OVed yet, it's possible to have a slow temp rise (you can search for charts showing this in FF). I'd still say you might have OVed yesterday or today, depending on what your next couple of temps do.

[swish]

I've had a look at your chart and I agree with rainbow, I've had 2 cycles with gradual temp rises, it's quite common. It does look like your temps are on the way up, fx!!!!! X

[Mochagirl]

Thanks, ladies. Yes, my temps are quite erratic - I'm often up several times in the night with one or the other of the kids - that's why I avoided temping until last cycle. I always try to temp between 6 and 7 am, but sometimes I've already been up at 1, 3,5...you get the idea. I also have a pretty crappy thermometer that gives 'quick read' results in under 30 seconds - I meant to invest in a better BBT thermometer this cycle but never got around to it. I figured it was good enough to see gradual trends, but if I don't get a BFP this cycle I guess I'll finally bite the bullet and get a new one.

I think I might have O'd mid-day today because when I checked my cervix after lunch, it was firmer, lower and a lot less open. Sometimes I forget that after having a vaginal birth (my twins were born via c-section), my cervix is never really completely closed anymore, so this may be as closed as it gets. At first I thought my cm was watery, but when I looked more closely it was opaque - so changing to creamy, maybe? I started to wonder if maybe my cm was like that this morning too since I didn't look too closely and assumed it was watery. So...maybe I O'd today...maybe yesterday? I don't know - I'll just wait and see what FF says, though I think until then I'll assume I'm 1dpo as of tomorrow.

[zanacal]

I hope it becomes clearer over the next couple of days mocha!

Hi to everybody else :D

I caved and told my mum about our BFP even though it's so early (I figured I'd tell her if anything bad happened anyway). She seemed really happy :D She asked whether we'd bought a book on how to have a girl or boy and I told her there was no need for a book with the internet! She texted me later to say that when she'd picked DS2 up from school there were 3 magpies on the ground (one for sorrow, two for joy, three for a girl ...). Bless her - I hope she doesn't get HER hopes up!

[swish]

Hi mocha, it's really hard to tell anything from temps unless you have 3 solid hours of sleep and do it at the same time so I think you have ovulated, hopefully your temps will have risen slightly again tomorrow

[swish]

Z, I think your mum will get her hopes up no matter what you do!!! It's good you told her, you light need her when the ms kicks in! X

[zanacal]

I've never had ms before swish - weird huh?! Yes, I'm glad I said, I hate having to be vague!

[Mochagirl]

Z - I plan to tell my Mom and my closest friends when I get a BFP too. If I ended up having a m/c I'd need their support anyway! Besides, most of them already know I'm TTC.

I know the temps are pretty much useless without a solid night's sleep, but there's no way around it for me. Again, I just figure a general trend is better than no temps at all. Last month there was a very sudden and distinct temperature shift when I O'd (like up a whole degree or something like that), so I figured I'd see that again this month. I agree that I probably O'd - it'll just be nice to see FF confirm it eventually.

[rainbowflower]

I'll do the same next time too... we did tell my mum when we got our first ever BFP and then I did lose the baby at 3 months but I don't regret telling her as she knew how scared I'd been because it mattered so much to me. It was better for her to have known and to enjoy the news with us even for a while as our baby deserved that rather than to tell her when the news was already devastating.

[zanacal]

{hugs} rainbow x

[mommy2lilmen]

♥ User Name mommy2lilmen
♥ Swaying Status: Swayer in Waiting, Swaying NOW!, BFP Swayer! swaying now
♥ TTC DC # .... 7
♥ Your approach to pink sway: I will be doing supplements, calcium, magnesium, folic acid, vitamin c, cranberry, be drinking crystal light, will be having milk, cutting out all pop and chips and red meat, will be eating chicken, rice, rice cereal, rice puffs, strawberries, cucumbers, will be bding 2 days befor o and after o with a bit of canola oil for lube and a douche prior and after, Im due to ovulate in a couple of weeks so wish me luck. this will be my first sway, hope it works.

[Mochagirl]

Welcome, mommy2lilmen!

[Mochagirl]

Well, my cervix is definitely low, firm and closed now, and cm is creamy, so I'm either in the 2WW or I didn't O. I've been crampy all day like I often am the day after O, so hopefully that's a good sign. DH and I dtd one last time tonight, which I suppose might have been an O+12 attempt, depending on when exactly I O'd.

I'm not really very happy with our attempt this month. All I did was the diet (with quite a bit cheat weekend last weekend while visiting my family, and another cheat night only 2 nights ago when I went to a friend's house), the 20lbs I've lost, SP and Vitex, Baby Aspirin, and tons of Diet Pepsi. I only used Rephresh once and it was nearly a week before O, I didn't use Sylk, and we botched our frequent BD and tried to make up for it with a couple of days of compressed frequent BD followed by once daily BD from then on. I just feel like there's no way I'll get my girl with such a sucky sway - I just wasn't willing to spend a year trying to get pregnant. Feeling a little down right now.

[Mochagirl]

FF gave me my crosshairs this morning - 3dpo. I think I'm actually 1dpo based on cp and cm, but I'll go with FF's estimate since it means I can test sooner. :)

[swish]

I'm pleased you're in the 2 ww, mocha! Please don't feel down, this was not a bad sway at all, I know it is not like previous months but those months you didn't get pregnant so you needed ti drop some things. What I'm trying to say is, maybe you did less this cycle but you still did enough to reduce your fertility and give yourself a good chance of getting a girl. lots of love, you should still feel good about this!!!!
Welcome lilmen!!! Gl with your sway, x

[Mochagirl]

Thanks, swish. I know you're in a similar situation to me - I'm just not willing to TTC for a whole year, but at the same time I know for sure this is my last baby so I don't want to just throw caution to the wind. It's a hard balance.

[zanacal]

{hugs} mocha. I agree it's a fine balance and obviously it's a different balance for everybody. You haven't done everything and then nothing, you've gradually dropped the things which will hopefully mean you get pregnant and you've kept the most important aspects. I think you have a great chance at a girl, just as good as anybody else around here!

How's it going with you swish, any sign of ovulating?

Welcome lilmen, I'll add your details!

[DoulaMama]

Hi Girls!!!
Z- I seriously cannot get over how quickly you got pregnant! WOW! Oh and CONGRATULATIONS on reaching your goal weight! How awesome! So once AF stays away.....what will your first big yummy meal be? Or have you already eaten it?? I think I read that you were going to eat the LE diet for awhile until you felt comfortable coming off of it. When is your EDD?

Mocha- 3dpo!!! Squeeeee!!!!! Yippee! I can't wait for you to start testing! With your reading from IC and the baby dust spell I put on those tests before I sent them to you.....I REALLY hope that this month is it!

Swish- How are things going!? What cycle day are you on?

Happyheart and XX- I think you're both on the 2ww thread now, right? If so.....GOOD LUCK!!!!
And :wave: to everyone I missed! Good luck with your sways!!!!

:luck::luck::luck::luck::luck::luck::luck::luck::l uck::luck::luck::luck: Fingers crossed for you all!

AFM, I haven't been on here much other than to quickly look at the 2ww thread;) I feel like a big piece of poo. Morning sickness sucks the big one and I'm freakin exhausted all the time. I can't believe that I've packed on 4 lbs already.....ugh. I have a wedding to go to as well, in mid Oct....I'm sure I'll feel like a horse. Everyone asks if I'm pregnant already as I've been showing since 7 w!!!! I keep having horrible nightmares as well.....I dreamt that I had done IVF for our girl and when it came time for a scan, I went in to discover that there were 2 boys and a girl in there! I sobbed in my dream and my hubby had to wake me up:( It was terrible. Mocha.....was your m/s really bad with your twins? Mine is about the same as all the others which is making me feel better about everything. I don't know if I could handle having 2 at one time and it's scaring me to the point of getting a small scan in a months time if my uterus keep growing so rapidly. Although, 4th pregnancy could totally make this happen as well. I'm paranoid.....can you tell?

[Mochagirl]

DM - sprry you're feeling so crappy. I did have pretty bad m/s with my twins, though at the time I didn't realise it was bad. I threw up twice a day - I got into a routine of drinking a big glass of water first thing in the morning, knowing that would make me throw up, then I could eat some breakfast. I also often gagged or threw up whenever I brushed my teeth. All of this stopped by the 2nd trimester. My doctor was willing to give me meds, but I felt like I had it under control, and I managed to never throw up at work (though there were a few times I felt like I had to). By my first scan at 11 weeks (when I found out I was having twins), I already had a little belly.

I also showed quite early with ds3, but I think it's because I was already so stretched out from carrying twins to term.

[swish]

Ah, dm!!!! So nice to hear from you, sorry you're feeling rough but it is a good sign bub is doing well :)
I'm on cd 12 and no signs of ov yet, I wouldn't expect it until cd18 at the earliest, keep all your f and t x for me!! I bought a clear blue fertility monitor so I can get a more accurate picture of when I ov, I just didn't want the stress of maybe/maybe not! It was expensive but I figure I can sell it on after!
Z, hope you and bean are good :)
Everyone else I hope the 2 ww is not going too slowly! X

[zanacal]

Hi Girls!!!
Z- I seriously cannot get over how quickly you got pregnant! WOW! Oh and CONGRATULATIONS on reaching your goal weight! How awesome! So once AF stays away.....what will your first big yummy meal be? Or have you already eaten it?? I think I read that you were going to eat the LE diet for awhile until you felt comfortable coming off of it. When is your EDD?


Hi DM, loving your ticker! Sorry you've been feeling crap though. 4lb is nothing - I could put that on in a weekend :D I WAS going to stay on the LE diet for the whole 2ww but that went right out the window! However, I feel so queasy that I don't really fancy anything - annoying eh? I've never had any morning sickness (lucky me!) but I felt sick literally the day after our attempt and I felt like I knew when the baby implanted because the sickness 'changed' and it's been there (and worse!) ever since. I wonder if it'll disappear and I'll have another ms free pregnancy or it'll only get worse?! I'm trying to keep hold of some of my good eating habits because I've never been that good for that long before - so I'm sticking to a light breakfast, only snacking on fruit and having a treat each evening after the kids have gone to bed (I still can't keep away from the tutti fruttis!). I hope I can remember to eat when I'm hungry in future and not all day every day and then maybe I won't weigh 2 stone more than my 6ft tall husband at the end of this pregnancy (what I state I got in!!). My EDD will, I think, be 28th May. I always fancied a Spring baby :D

[Mochagirl]

DM and Z - from everything I've heard, having different pregnancy symptoms (like m/s) can be a good sign you're carrying a baby of a different gender this time around! I've asked lots of my friends with both genders and they all said the pregnancies felt very different from the start.

[swish]

I agree, everyone I know was MUCH more sick with their girls, I think it's a good sign:)

[zanacal]

That's a thought I'm trying to push right out of my mind!! I wonder if it's also just something that happens more as you get older - I was in my 20s when I started having babies and now I'm in my mid thirties and my boys have knackered me out! I'm also at a much less healthy starting point! I remember reading somewhere (it might have been while I was snooping around on IG!) that a lady had bad sickness but had had none with her boys so she was convinced it was a girl but it was another boy.

[swish]

There will always be the exceptions and I can understand you not wanting to get your hopes up!! Having said that it's a very strong trend with my friends and my sister, who I know intimately(!!) was much sicker and it all started very early on - she too refused to believe it meant a girl and I would be the same.....still, I'm allowed to get excited for you!

[zanacal]

Thank you swish :D What about you, are you ok?

[swish]

I'm fine, I've actually chilled so much about the whole thing, I had a while when I thought I'm never going to get pregnant again but now I feel like it will happen whenever it happens (not too long I hope!) it helps that I've really relaxed with the diet and put on a bit of weight (i'm managing to keep my weight at 7.8lbs now), I just hope I've not relaxed the diet too much. As you know the only other things I'm doing are frequent release, aspirin and aspartame so I do feel anxious it's not enough but I need to first get pregnant to have a girl!!! I still can't believe you got preggers with all that stuff going on, it's amazing!! That baby was meant to be for you whatever it is!!:)

[Mochagirl]

swish - I could learn a lot from your zen attitude. You're awesome! I was feeling much more relaxed last week, and I think getting confused about when O was happening + getting sick just made me start getting stressed, which is silly when I can't do anything about it now anyway. I really shouldn't complain when I haven't had to deal with the frustration of long cycles and no ovulation like you have! I'm really praying you ovulate on time this time and get that BFP - I think it would be wonderful for us all to be pregnant together with similar due dates. Instead of complaining about our diets, we can complain about m/s, gas, backaches and constipation :bigsmile:.

If it weren't for the diet, I think I'd be fine waiting several months for my BFP, but I remember when I started this thing I told all my friends I was only going to do it for a month or two because there was no way I was going to starve myself all summer...and look at me now. It's been so long since I ate yummy things without guilt that I barely remember what it feels like - it seems like such a luxury to be able to open the fridge or cupboard and eat anything that takes my fancy. Hopefully we'll all have that again soon.

[zanacal]

I think that although I lost alot of weight, it probably made me even healthier (and more fertile!) - because before I was in the overweight range and now I'm in the ideal range! You weigh so little, that's got to sway in itself! FWIW, my mum weighed about that when she conceived us and when my sister and I were little :D I'm so glad you've been able to relax, that's another bonus for your sway :D

[swish]

Thank you, ladies! Mocha, I was really, really stressed the cycle with the confusing opk so I know how you feel. It would be great if we could all be preggers together, fx!!

[Indira]

Hi ladies! I haven´t been on much, had my inlaws in the house for a week and went on a 2 day study trip by myself (first time after DS2, no I think first time after having kids!). This wasn´t very good for my T, but it was very interesting.
Because of the trip and DH being ´tired´ (:hair:) we missed our fertile window this month, I was very disappointed at first but now my temps aren´t rising so I didn´t even ovulate. Doesn´t have to be the diet or supps, could be the travel aswell. Who knows, maybe my body will try again, but I don´t think so.

Swish, what Cd are you and when do you usually O? We need an -ovulation please- icon on the pink swayers thread!

Zanacal I thought of you today, I have some kind of stomach bug and have been puking (sorry!) a couple of times, so I remembered what it is like to want to get pregnant so much, and then when you are you just feel sick...FX it is a pink bean that´s making you feel bad.

Mocha good luck in the 2ww!

[swish]

Welcome back, indira! I'm on cd 12, usually ov earliest cd18. Sorry you didn't ov:(

[DoulaMama]

Indira- I'm sorry about your anovulatory cycle:( I've had many of those in the past and it's so confusing.

Z- I really hope your change in symptoms means GIRL!!! My friends that have one of each all say that the pregnancy was different. I'm having pretty much the same symptoms as with my last pregnancy and the 2 before it....I'm holding out some hope for a girl, but I will not be shocked in the slightest if I pop out boy #4 :) I have a great boy name, I know that they will get along really well(my hubby is one of 4 brothers and they all get along really well and we have great family holidays together), and I make cute boys...if I do say so myself!!! LOL Oh and thanks about the ticker! I figured I needed one:)

Mocha- I'm not freaking out now:) I went and found my measuring tape and measured my fundus and I'm right on for 9w:) Yippee!!!!! Not that twins would be horrible or anything...and I sincerely hope you didn't take offense to me not wanting twins:( I had a close friend who had twins(her sister had natural triplets and there had been no history of multiples at all) and I saw how hard it was for her- nursing, traveling, shopping, expense, exhaustion...I just don't know how I would do it. One little nugget at a time please- if I have a say;)

Swish- I'll keep everything crossed for you hun!!!!!

[Mochagirl]

DM - no offense at all! I always find it somewhat amusing when people say they want twins - they have no idea what it will be like. Two babies is very different from one - even if you have lots of kids and know a lot about babies. Twins turn your life completely upside down...unless you're JLo and have a team of nannies to help you take care of them. My twins were a wonderful surprise - nature's miracle...but hopefully it was a once in a lifetime miracle. :)

[XXdreaming]

I hope I didn't offend you, I have a good friend that has twin boys and it pisses her off when I say I want twins lol, and I am sure it does other moms of twins too, I by no means think its a walk in the park, its tough, having 2 sick babies, their schedule getting off one awake while other sleeps vice versa, its not easy it all, kudos to all twin moms :) I hope you don't think bad of me, I babysit her boys sometimes and its definitely go go all the time and their just with me a couple of hrs, I know 24/7 is a challenge :)

[Mochagirl]

No - absolutely no offense! Sorry if I offended YOU! I wasn't talking about you specifically - I must hear people say they wish they had twins about 10 times a day.

You also might be fine with 2 babies - every person's different, and you're a very experienced Mom so you likely have a much better idea of what it would be like. I just find in general women - especially first time Moms - don't know what it would mean to have 2 at once.

As I said, twins are wonderful - I just never would have chosen to have them. I was blessed with a healthy, full-term pregnancy and healthy babies, it's just that sooooooooo many women with twins end up with months of bedrest, preemie babies with lifelong developmental delays, and even worse. Seriously - of the many, many, many twin moms I know (I belong to a twin club), I'd say 90% had serious problems with either the pregnancy or the babies themselves. One woman I know delivered her twins at 20 weeks!

[Mochagirl]

So...I went out dress shopping today for the wedding I have to go to in a few weeks. I brought a bunch of Size 0 dresses to the dressing room, and guess what? They were too big!!!! I had to get Size 00 instead - that's the size my friends and I used to laugh about all the time, saying that there's no way anyone actually wears them. Anyway, I found a lovely Mad Men-style dress in dusty rose, but I realised after I bought it that if I AM pregnant this month, there's no way it will still fit me 3 weeks from now!

[swish]

Oh dear, I'm sure you'll still be over the moon and can just take it back if you get a bfp!!!!!

[zanacal]

Wow mocha, 20 weeks?! My cousin and his wife had stillborn boy/girl twins at 26 weeks. It was, as you can imagine, absolutely devestating for them. They went on to have another girl and a boy (not twins!) but it's still hard for them all these years later.

I can't believe how tiny you are now! I do hope you get to take the dress back and exchange it for something to suit your developing bump!!

DH is away for work tonight so no doubt I'll be back later!

[Mochagirl]

Yes - 20 weeks, and surprisingly the kids are ok. They're 2 now, and developmentally delayed (and about the size of 1 year olds), but they're healthy other than that.

I can't believe how tiny I am too. This is sooo not me. I still think of myself as a robust person as that's the way I've always been, so I find it strange when a salesperson comments on how tiny I am and how I might need a smaller size.

This is the dress I got, and it only cost $40 on sale!

http://www.rw-co.com/default.aspx?action=collectiondetails&language=en&id=1828&topid=80

(I might turf the flowered belt as I think it looked sleeker without it)

I figure buying it now might guarantee me a BFP...kind of like how it never rains when you remember to bring an umbrella along :bigsmile:

[zanacal]

Beautiful - I love the colour - but I hope you don't get to wear it. Sorry :D

[Mochagirl]

Gee, thanks :p

With my luck I'll bloat up to the size of a whale with all the salt I plan on cramming in my mouth as soon as I get my BFP, and I'll have to wear a muumuu to the wedding!

[tweedledeedum]

That is such a cute dress, Mocha. I can't believe you got a OO - but I'm sure you won't get to wear it!

Good luck to all of the pink swayers this month, hope this is it for you all.

After being on the diet since May 1 and waiting to be able to eat again I find myself unable to eat and enjoy myself. I have been so sick since getting my BFP!

[XXdreaming]

no mocha you didnt offend me :) i love the dress but I hope you get a bfp and will have to exchange for a bigger size ;)

[rainbowflower]

that's amazing... are you sure they were 20 weeks? I thought the earliest recorded surviving baby born was at nearly 22 weeks? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1380282/Earliest-surviving-premature-baby-goes-home-parents.html

[Mochagirl]

Sorry you're feeling so sick, tweedle!

I'm in shock about the 00 too - before I started this diet I was a 6/8!

[swish]

Dress is very pretty, mocha!
Tweddle, I've been on the diet since may 1st too!! Sorry you're feeling bad, hope it passes quickly and you can eat again!!

[Mochagirl]

I started the diet May 1st too! I've lost 20 lbs since then, almost all of it in the first 2 months.

rainbow - I thought it was 20 weeks, but obviously I must be remembering incorrectly. I remember telling my husband about it and saying it was only halfway to term, so maybe it was a few weeks over 20, like 23? It's been a while since I've seen her and talked to her about it. I do know they were in NICU for 6 months.

[Mochagirl]

Ok, since you all have that dress in your minds, I need some fashion advice. What shoes should I wear with it? The only closed-toed shoes I have are black - is that too much contrast with this dress? Should I wear nude pantyhose with it? The ceremony is outside on October 1st, and the weather here that time of year is very unpredictable (and cool), so my nude sandals won't work. For the outside portion I'll wear a wrap or something over it.

[zanacal]

Hmm, tricky time of year! In summer you'd wear some pretty sandles! I think black shoes with nude pantyhose (that word is so much sexier than tights!) would be fine and you could accessorise to match.

[Mochagirl]

It's really a summer dress, which is why I got in on sale. I just felt (hoped?) that the dusty rose colour would still be ok in the early Fall, especially since all the Fall clothes in the stores right now seem to be shades of purple and pink.

[zanacal]

It's a good colour for a wedding, you'll look gorgeous :D

[zanacal]

Hi all, it's a gorgeous sunny early Autumnal day here and it's making me feel so much happier (and more patient with the monkeys!). I hope you're all having good days too.

AF was due today and I'm having some AF type cramps. I'm trying not to let this worry me as I'm sure this has happened in past pregnancies and I still feel squiffy at the same time and have had sore boobs today (not a usual symptom of either AF or pregnancy for me!). I took an IC preg test last night and it was positive so I'm trying to just ignore the crampy feeling but it's hard not to panic!

Today my sister told me she is ttc#3. She already has a boy and a girl and I wouldn't switch places with her for the world because her life is not always happy (her DS has aspergers and her OH is an alcoholic who has hurt her in the past) but I so know she will get another girl and I'll get another boy! She is the only one who knew we were trying for a girl and she said she'll feel really bad if it works out that way. On a positive note, I may get another little niece even if I don't get my very own daughter!

[Mochagirl]

Z - I always get period-like cramps in early pregnancy, so try not to worry about it!

That's nice that your sister's TTC - maybe you'll both have girls and the cousins will grow up as best friends :HH:

[DoulaMama]

Gorgeous dress mocha! I'd say as long as you wore pumps, you could wear a few different colour options. Bronze would be nice too:) 00!!!!! I think I saw that size when I was 7 for about a year....LOL! If anyone will be wearing a moomoo to a wedding it'll be me! Im back up to 189 already:( ugh I'm starting a paleo/primal diet soon so I really hope it keeps the weight off me this time.

Z- I started to get my cramping bang-on 14dpo:) it been off and on since. Try not to worry! xoxo

[XXdreaming]

I remember uncomfortable cramps in the beginning with all mine, I remember it being worse with ds4 I just knew I was m/cing him and went to the bathroom a million times llooking for blood and never did bleed or spot at all with him, very nerve wrecking 1st trimester though, my ob kept reassuring me it was normal

[tweedledeedum]

Z- I wouldn't worry about the cramps either - I have been cramping like crazy since the day after I Oed. I wonder if its related to the Vitex bc i don't remember the cramps being so intense with my other pregnancies.

[Chicky]

Haven't been on in a while so stopping by to say hi.
Zanacal congrats on the bfp!
Swish, hope your O is normal this month.
Mocha great dress!

I am on cd 57 and still no O. Started vitex 2 weeks ago and my body seems to have been trying to o every week fir the past 3 weeks. Hope it is successful this weekend! I have increased my fat and calories to gain some weight so a little scared to make an attempt after gaining weight. Cross your fingers for me to O soon!

[zanacal]

Thanks Chicky. So annoying for you, I really hope you O soon x

[swish]

I know how you feel, chicky! Hope you ov or get af soon, xxx

[dannikins]

♥ User Name: Dannikins
♥ Swaying Status: Swayer in Waiting (I think thats right, started the diet & supps etc)
♥ TTC DC # 5
♥ Your approach to pink sway: diet and supps, weight loss, sylk and rephresh, ionozer, lavender, basically anything that im told will help....:)

[swish]

I got the egg sign on my fertility monitor today, yay!!!! I'm so excited that I actually ov!!!! Aside from that things are not ideal, I planned to be really good with diet a couple of days before ov and maybe lose just 1 lb but I haven't been and last night I had curry!!!! (it was homemade and vegetarian). Dh and I think he has been releasing for 6 days but we're not sure!!! Plus ds2 had been uncharacteristically stroppy, throwing himself on the floor at the school gates so my stress levels have been up, oh well, anything I shall be very chilled with anything that is thrown at me today and I might even go for a massage when dh gets home form work. Wish me luck, fx we catch this egg!!!!!!!!!!

[zanacal]

Oh wow swish, that's amazing! I'm so happy for you :D

Welcome dannikins, I'll add you to the list.

[Indira]

YAY Swish for ovulating! I have everything crossed!!

[rainbowflower]

Swish go make that baby!!

[indigoviolet]

Hello ladies, can I please join you this month, I know I am a bit late! Thankyou!

Just doing my first cycle ttc girl now, hopefully attempting tonight. It took ages to conceive dc2 so I have started ttc a bit earlier than I'd really want to assuming it will take us a while. But I am also praying for a healthy sticky bfp of course as it was so hard waiting last time. And of course praying for a girl!

[Mochagirl]

Oh, swish, I'm so excited for you!!! Go catch that egg!!!

[Mochagirl]

Oh, and welcome indigoviolet!

[indigoviolet]

thanks Mocha :heart: I remember you from the pink thread on IG about 3 years ago when we were ttc at the same time! Seems a long time ago now and we both have little boys to show for it lol! Hopefully this time we'll both get pink :pray:

[Mochagirl]

I thought I remembered you and was going to ask!!!! Nice to have an old friend here - that was a fun group of ladies, and I'm still friends with a lot of them on FB. This is yet another great group of ladies - you'll enjoy it here.

I don't remember what your sway was like last time. I was one of those people who just tried to reduce sodium and took supplements - no wonder I got a boy!

[swish]

Welcome indigo!
Thank you ladies!! The deed is done now all I can do is hope! I'm going for a facial this pm after a stressful morning at ikea, hopefully this will be relaxing!
Quick question - dh had been releasing solo until today when we dtd, should we dtd again tomorrow or will that sway blue since we've only dtd once, should we just stick with the one attempt? Thanks!

[Mochagirl]

I'm no expert, but I think you might as well give it one more try. I know how desperately you want to get pregnant this time! We kept BDing past O just to keep our bases covered.

[Mochagirl]

Oh, and congratulations on making it to the 2WW!!! :cheer:

[zanacal]

Hi Indigo!

Yay swish, I'm so glad you're in the 2ww! It's entirely up to you whether you do it again - do you remember I had the same question after our attempt?! DH wanted to do it again but I felt that we should leave it so that's what we did. I didn't want to 'send in the boys' and increase the number of sperm in there and sway boy BUT your circumstances are different and, based on your last cycle, your fertility is likely in a different place. If you want to seal the deal and increase your chances of getting pregnant then go for it!

I get the feeling we won't have many people left to tell that we're pregnant by the time we get to 12 weeks - this morning I blurted to a mum of one of DS1's school friends! We're quite friendly and I know she won't say anything to anyone but she asked me whether we were going to try for number 4 and I couldn't resist!

[Mochagirl]

I've been known to blurt my pregnancy secret out to strangers too! :bigsmile:

[swish]

Not quite in the 2ww yet! Real dilemma about dtd as i don't know when I'll actually ov as haven't used cbfm before, guess I'll see what temps do tomorrow. Z, i do that too, things just pop out and then you wonder why you said it! I'm weaning myself off telling people I have no preference for gender, I've told a couple of strangers who've asked that i'd love a girl, it's a start!!

[zanacal]

I have a couple of baby sites I've belonged to for years (since DS1) and I just popped back on (I'm not a regular any more) to say hello and maybe break my news but there was a thread on there where somebody had asked how to ttc a girl and it went on and on about Shettles and that pissed me off so much I couldn't even post because I'd want to set that thread straight and it would give me away ... and I don't want to give myself away because then I'll feel like a fool when I have a boy!

swish - if you're unsure about DTD again tonight, could you get DH to release first (now!) and DTD later? That might be a good compromise.

[swish]

One more question for everyone...
Does low blood sugar in 2ww make a difference for gender of baby following release of egg or was it the 2ww the cycle before that makes the difference, I still don't get it!! Hope that makes sense!

[zanacal]

It's the 2ww after conception - girl sperm suck up more glucose and if there's lots there they might suck up too much. Boy sperm don't suck up so much so likely prefer to have more in the environment. It's about creating the ideal environment for the sex you've hopefully conceived!

[swish]

Thanks z! you are a fountain of knowledge these days!! X

[zanacal]

I'm quite lost without having my girl sway to plan. I need to take up knitting or something - I've started looking at pushchairs and carseats online but it seems rather early to be planning those details! I was going to do some gardening today but the weather put a stop to that.

[swish]

I know, I wondered what I would do post 6 pm when the boys watch cbeebies, I'm so used to tapping away on my iPad on this site! You however are definitely still needed and useful here, I'm not as well researched ad you, I just do what I'm told!!! Just saw other post, I was wondering whether to dtd again tomorrow as that might be ov day? I wanted to dtd through ov day but wasn't sure whether 2 days in row ( and nothing else as far as my body knows!) would sway blue?
I've never been on any of these sites before this sway, I've surprised myself how much I like it and how you all friends now and I feel like I know you, I have to confess I didn't get it at all before this, I might have looked but I'd never post/share anything about myself.

[swish]

Knitting is a hilarious choice, you could make a million baby clothes. I bet it's really relaxing but I would be useless!

[Mochagirl]

DH and I dtd for real 6 days in row. I didn't know that swayed boy! I get so confused with all this information.

I freely tell anyone who'll listen that I'm planning to try one more time for a girl. They can judge me if they want - anyone who knows me knows my 3 boys are my world and I'll love a 4th boy just as much.

[swish]

I know that's how I should feel, mocha, and I always think good for you when people are like that but I do worry what people think of me, it's ingrained in me and I can't really change it!
As for dtd, I didn't mean lots of days in a row as that's frequent bding but I wasn'ypt sure if just 2 days in a row 'for real' counts as frequent bding to my body. Am I not making sense?!?!

[Mochagirl]

No - that makes sense. I just noticed that very few of you dtd lots of times, and started to worry we shouldn't have been doing that after all. I suppose it doesn't matter because even with all that BD (I think one month we dtd 7 days in a row after he'd released for 7 more before that!), we still haven't gotten pregnant. I don't think at this point I'd want to leave it all down to one attempt anyway. I think I'm just feeling so unconfident about my sway that I'm looking for excuses to pick it apart.

[swish]

I actually planned to dtd several days again but ov surprised me by being the earliest it's been since I charted, now I just don't know what to do, I don't feel at all stressed just confused! Funny enough I don't even feel desperate to get pregnant this cycle! I suppose I feel I barely swayed compared to my other attempts and my body seems to have returned to normal ( and we know normal means boys!) um, who knows!!

[zanacal]

swish - it doesn't matter whether you DTD every day or DH releases every day or a combination of the 2! DTD every day, preferably 7-10 days prior to you DTD at your fertile time, will still sway pink because it lowers DH's sperm count. DTD 'for real' more than once increases your chances of pregnancy because it increases 'your' sperm count BUT some people swaying pink may need to do it that much because of the negative effect that the others things they're dong (diet/antihistimines/gels etc.) have on fertility. It's a fine balance and it's different for everybody! If I were you and I'd had a few attempts and a cycle where I didn't ovulate at all, I think I'd go for it again :D

[swish]

Thank you, I appreciate that :)
At this point it's hard to say whether not getting pregnant was anything to do with dh, I think probably not, I think it was my messed up cycles and my body reacting to supplements and diet but we don't know!! I'm going to dtd tomorrow morning if temp has not risen - I'm not going to think about it again!!!! X

[zanacal]

Good girl :D

[Mochagirl]

Sounds like a good decision, swish!

[swish]

Thanks, xxxxxx

[indigoviolet]

Thanks for the welcome ladies :)

Mocha- I ended up having 2 m/c and so gave up all swaying and did everything fertility friendly which is obviously boy friendly. I was just desperate to get pg in the end and am thrilled with ds2 but still wish wish wish for a girl. This is my last chance so am starting with as much as I can and drop stuff if it takes too long to get pg. What are you doing this time?

[Mochagirl]

I started out pretty hardcore - I've been on the Low Everything diet since May 1st and have lost over 20 lbs. I'm now down to a size 00, which kind of freaks me out. I was using Rephresh, Sylk, frequent BD, Saw Palmetto, Vitex and Baby Aspirin, but after 3 unsuccessful attempts I've now dropped the Rephresh, Sylk, reduced the Baby ASpirin (I was bruising too much on it), and we didn't quite manage frequent BD this month, though I made dh release twice on one day then again the next morning before we dtd that night, then we dtd 6 days in a row after that. I'm now 5dpo.

[indigoviolet]

Wow Mocha, that's a really impressive amount to loose! Since the diet is the most important, dropping a few bits still gives you an amazing sway. Good luck! what dpo will you start testing?
I o'd yesterday and did an o+12 ish so am praying for a quick BFP, don't want to wait as long as I did last time and cope with the heartbreak.
:HH:

[Mochagirl]

I'm going to try to hold out until 9dpo, but I usually give in at 8dpo.

[XXdreaming]

Well I think if I get a bfn this Monday I am just gonna except the fact I am not pregnant lol and I am going to back off for a month or 2, I am going to kind of keep the le diet, I have lost about 6lbs and I need about 35lbs to go to completely lose this baby fat I have been hanging on to for too long lol and I need to excercise to help lose that faster and that will mess up my sway, and dh thinks I am ridiculous and basically laughing at me for having so much confidence on being pregnant this month lol so after af arrives I will be going mia and just taking a couple month break and be back :) I probably pop in and evry once and while to see how y'all ladies are doing, but I won't leave until af shows which should be here Tuesday :)

[indigoviolet]

Good luck with testing tomorrow XXdreaming:luck:

Mocha- sounds like me, try to hold off for as long as I can but will probably only make it to 8dpo as well....FXFX

[swish]

Sorry about bfn, xx!
Can anyone help me with this...
I didn't ov last month but thus cycle was soooo happy to get a peak day on my cbfm - however, after the second day of peak I expected my temps to be up this morning but it was not. My cm has changed to sticky today. Do you think my body tried and failed to ov or is it possible I ov early today, the day after the second peak cbfm reading? Am I just being hopeful?? I know temps tomorrow will tell me more but i'd appreciate it f anyone can help! X

[Mochagirl]

I'm sorry you're getting confusing signs again, swish! I really don't know enough about ovulation to answer your question, but to me it seems possible that you ovulated very early this morning and your temps will go up tomorrow. I really hope thing become clearer for you soon! :HH:

[swish]

Thank you, mocha, I hope your right, I feel I am now past being disappointed about all this!! I'm starting to think I may have pcos, I don't know enough about it yet but I'm being tested for it mid oct. I'm trying to find out if it could have been underlying and now aggravated by diet.

[Indira]

Swish, I think you did ovulate. It might just take a little more time for your temp to rise.
I have a hard time pinpointing O every month for this because my temp never goes up that clearly but it takes a couple of days (ofcourse my cycle is hardly an example of a normal, fertile cycle lol) so the thought of not having O-ed is always on my mind until there is a clear rise days later.

[swish]

Thank you, indira, that is really useful, our cycles definitely seem to have similarities!!! I hope you're right about this one, x

[swish]

Hi ladies!
My temperature went up a tiny bit so hopefully I'm having a gradual rise and have therefore ovulated!!! How is everyone else? Who is waiting to test?

[indigoviolet]

Yay for the temp rise Swish. I'm waiting to test but won't til next week, seems like forever away. I forgot how time drags when you are ttc. I keep thinking about it 'am I still only on 3dpo?!!'

[Mochagirl]

Yay, swish! I'm glad your temp was up!

I'm 8dpo today, and I admit I tested :oops:. BFN - no big surprise.

[indigoviolet]

Mocha, sorry for BFn, I'm sure I will cave as early this month too, but still really early days, lots of hope hun :HH:

[swish]

Thanks, I am feeling hopeful that I at least ovulated, it's a start...
Sorry for the BFNs but it's still early, x

[zanacal]

That's great news swish :D

[swish]

Big temp jump today, yay!!
Mocha, are you ok, you're very quiet? X

[rainbowflower]

Just want to say "eek" - will say more when I get on the laptop..

Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk

[rainbowflower]

right... can add a bit more now. I had a high temp this morning. The odd high temp is fairly common when BF (or seems to be) as I get hot flushes overnight now and again, but this one was taken spot on at the right time, after the 3hr block of sleep, and no hot flush... it should be very accurate, and it's higher than my normal hot-flush temps are too: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/296ced
I did have a darker 2nd line on my IC OPK yesterday, although it was still negative, but the last 2 cycles I've had a slow buildup lasting about 2-3 days before a positive OPK so wasn't expecting a temp rise just yet and this one wasn't as dark as the peak of those have been.

we're not TTC this month and BDed on CD11 following a day with only creamy CM thinking that was safe as I didn't OV until CD28/31 for the last 2 cycles. I guess it's unlikely we'll conceive from that? especially as my LP was only 6 days last cycle?

[indigoviolet]

Morning ladies, how are you all doing today :HH:

Mocha- have you tested again? FXFX

[Mochagirl]

Hey ladies - it's been an emotional few days for me. My cat's still at the vet, and we're waiting on some blood tests that will determine whether or not we have to put her to sleep.

swish - yay yay yay on the big temp jump!!!

So....my news is that I used a FRER this morning at 9dpo and got a faint line!!!!!!

[Mochagirl]

Anyone know why our TTC Pink food thread is locked?

[swish]

Yay Mocha, I am sooooooo happy for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A line is a line, OMG!!!! I am jumping for joy for you, xxxxxxxx

Rainbow, would you pleased to get a bfp or were you not happy with your sway yet?

No idea about the food thread!

Yay, yay, yay Mocha!!!!!!!

Sorry, I was so excited I forgot to say, sorry about your cat, I hope it works out ok, xx

[Mochagirl]

Thanks, swish - I'm still in shock about the BFP. I wish I felt better about my sway this time, but maybe I wouldn't have been able to get pregnant at all without a bit of extra food.

Last night I was figuring out my food intake for the day and for the first time since I started this diet, my calories were too high. It was weird because I really didn't eat much all day, but I wonder if somehow my body sensed I needed a bit extra so I ended up reaching for the high calories foods? I ended up with over 2000 calories, whereas I used to struggle to get to 1500.

[XXdreaming]

Congrats again mocha!! So excited for you! (Sorry about your cat)

[Emmy2012]

Oh My Gosh Mocha!!! I am so so happy for you!!!See....september was meant to be your girl month!!!! Congrats!!!!

[swish]

I was going to say that about eating more, mocha, maybe your body would have never accepted a pregnancy with your previous cycles eating habits, you still have a great sway :)
Out of interest, what were your 2ww symptoms?

[Emmy2012]

Mocha....I agree that maybe your body needed more. Last month when my cycle did that wonky thing for the first time ever I had been super duper strict on the diet the whole two weeks prior so I really think the too low of calories delayed my ovulation. This month I was good but more lax and I am ovulating today on day 14 just one day later then normal. If you don't mind me asking how often did you bd and did you use anything (rephresh, aci-jel or whatever). I switched things up this month since I need to get pregnant asap. We did a 12 day abstain, dtd monday night O-2, had dh release the next am, dtd last night O-1, had dh relase again this am and plan on dtd tonight and tomorrow am. I am using douche, aci-jel and zytrec though.

[indigoviolet]

WOOOOhOOOOO mocha!!! that is such wonderful news! Yay Yay!:cheer::cheer:

Sorry about your cat, hope things work out well for her.

[Mochagirl]

I was going to post my 2WW symptoms anyway - I'm always curious to see how others felt before their BFP. Honestly, I had far fewer symptoms this month than in my BFN months. I've had some milk cramping - right after O I had my normal period-like cramping, but in the past week it's been more like sharp quick pains on my left side every once in a while. One day the pains were lower - almost in my groin. My boobs still aren't sore, but I do get some random sharp pains on the sides of them every once in a while.

My cm hasn't been overly abundant - it was creamy for a while, then switched to sticky. I've been freezing cold all week - I was blaming it on the sudden weather change and my weight loss, but now I wonder if it was a symptom of some sort. Now that I have my BFP I'm hot suddenly - could be psychosomatic, but worth mentioning.

I was gassy on and off (and so was blaming my cramps on that) and was constipated for a few days this week, and last night I was so tired that I couldn't get more that one page of my book read before passing out in bed - and it was an hour before the time I normally go to bed!!