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zodiac
March 12th, 2016, 05:15 PM
What are some good high fat foods to work with the HE diet?


From the HE FAQ:
"You need to eat protein (meat, fish, dairy, eggs, beans, peas, nuts...
and (sweet and starchy foods like bread, pasta, potato, rice, fruit, sweet tasting veg, sugar in sauces/dressings or desserts)
at every meal and snack."


I am trying to work with these but none of them seem particularly high in fat content except maybe dairy (e.g. full fat cheese)?

Or am I misunderstanding what I have read in the HE diet information?

atomic sagebrush
March 12th, 2016, 05:44 PM
You don't have to eat super high fat foods constantly on HE Diet. There are plenty of other important nutrients for a sway besides fat.

That little bit you've cut and pasted had nothing to do with fat content anyway. I was attempting to explain to people about mixing protein and carbs at every meal and snack. Many people, when I say "have protein and carbs at every meal and snack" apparently do not know what those things are (??? this is one of those things I find really hard to believe but enough people say it that I guess it must be true) and so I wrote that as an explanation for the people who don't know what foods contain protein or carbs. Nothing about fat in that section at all.

zodiac
March 12th, 2016, 05:56 PM
I was attempting to explain to people about mixing protein and carbs at every meal and snack.

Sorry I probably chose the wrong section to paste. I was going back to change it to sections about fat (there are a few) then found I already had a reply!

Thank you that was really fast!!!




Many people, when I say "have protein and carbs at every meal and snack" apparently do not know what those things are (??? this is one of those things I find really hard to believe but enough people say it that I guess it must be true) and so I wrote that as an explanation for the people who don't know what foods contain protein or carbs.


This makes so much more sense to me now!! (I think!) :oops:



So it is the carbs rather than fat that are good for the HE diet?

Here is another snippet, with fat mentioned here (again from FAQ):
"Cholesterol from saturated fat makes the sex hormones and without cholesterol and saturated fat, you won’t get pg. For TTC blue, we are trying to improve fertility somewhat while still staying able to conceive.
Red meat, full fat dairy, and eggs are an important part of the diet."

I am also looking at many of the foods from your "Gimme a 5th Boy Sway" and trying to do these (although not in the same order) except for avocado (just can't have them) and blueberries (have read many mixed reports but also don't like them! Eugh!)

Why is Dr. Pepper good? Something special about it or just because it is full-fat soda?

atomic sagebrush
March 12th, 2016, 06:32 PM
For TTC a boy you just want more nutrient dense foods. Not carbs per se or fat per se, just more nutrition all around.

The reason why we have protein and carbs together is to stabilize blood sugar and keep it from dropping between meals.

Fat/saturated fat/cholesterol is certainly something to have, but that's not the ONLY thing in the diet you're meant to eat more of and it's certainly not a "high fat foods only" diet. You can eat lots of different types of foods to get a wide variety of nutrietns.

zodiac
March 12th, 2016, 06:37 PM
For TTC a boy you just want more nutrient dense foods. Not carbs per se or fat per se, just more nutrition all around.

The reason why we have protein and carbs together is to stabilize blood sugar and keep it from dropping between meals.

Fat/saturated fat/cholesterol is certainly something to have, but that's not the ONLY thing in the diet you're meant to eat more of and it's certainly not a "high fat foods only" diet. You can eat lots of different types of foods to get a wide variety of nutrietns.

I think I am eating the good nutrient based foods then but not so many fatty foods.

Will TTC Boy still work if not getting so many fats?

atomic sagebrush
March 12th, 2016, 07:06 PM
You don't have to eat fatty foods necessarily. But just don't be eating lowfat or fat free stuff either.

Are you eating meat, cheese, butter, that kind of thing?

zodiac
March 12th, 2016, 09:55 PM
You don't have to eat fatty foods necessarily. But just don't be eating lowfat or fat free stuff either.

Are you eating meat, cheese, butter, that kind of thing?

Yes to all :)

atomic sagebrush
March 13th, 2016, 02:18 PM
Then I wouldn't worry about it.

Some of our blue swayers have a history of avoiding fat and eating only low/no fat foods. skim yogurt, salad with fat free dressing, top ramen, and chicken breast are not gonna help you conceive a boy (unless you eat a lot of other things too) you need fat to make sex hormones and also to ensure your body is able to use things like Vit. A and D (which need fat to be utilized)

XXforhubby
March 13th, 2016, 03:48 PM
As a mom to three boys, I only ate meat (very little red meat), cheese, and 2% dairy, and low fat yogurt. This got me 2 of my three boys. My third boy was a failed girl sway determined to join our family and melt our hearts [emoji4][emoji170]!

FX and GL to you! Have my blue baby dust [emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]


[emoji170]DS1[emoji1379], DS2[emoji577], & DS3[emoji602] completes our family![emoji170]

Throwaway_panther
March 14th, 2016, 01:25 PM
While atomic is dead on, I thought I'd point out: butter and red meat pack in fat alone, let alone "blue foods" like avocado!

I'm curious though to thoughts on bacon fat, considering animal fat tends to be bluer, but pork is pinker. (And I know, there aren't magic bullet foods!)

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atomic sagebrush
March 14th, 2016, 03:30 PM
Red meat also has protein and some things you can't get as easily from other foods like B12

I certainly wouldn't avoid bacon if you like it, but I don't want you guys making it a food group. they do that on some of the other sites - since bacon and hot dogs and lunch meat are so salty, they assume "oh these are great for a boy" but NO it's about nutrients, nutrients, nutrients, and additionally the type of fat that is in pork products when eaten PRIMARILY as your main source of fats it's kind of doubly bad.

Example: IG Diet meal of iceberg lettuce salad and tomato and bacon as a meal for boy with vinegar and salt sprinkled on top - NO (I tallied this up once when annoyed and it had like 3 g protein and no carbs)

HE Diet meal of mixed greens salad with hard boiled egg, cheese, bacon, tomato, some carrot, a little broccoli, some red onion with sweet dressing YES (egg plus cheese plus bacon would have way more protein and a nice amount of fat to help you use the nutrients in the vegetables, and the protein + carbs will help your blood sugar stay up longer after eating)

Now, I know you're saying "but bacon has the Omega 6 fat" and this is true but it's not that you can NEVER have pork, it is that you need to be sure you're getting MORE Omega 3 and saturated fat, which you'll achieve by taking fish oil and also having cheese and egg