Amazing August 2WW Thread

[XXforhubby]

Welcome ladies! Here's to hoping and praying that August brings more BFPs!!




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[Girlieplease]

Thanks xxforhubby, I feel rather despondent! I feel like most people I have been in these threads with have got pregnant ( except your good self) but I still going to plough on with the exercise and diet! In real life no one knows we are trying for a baby and I have a few friends that have just found out they are pregnant and they were using birth control and not even trying and I cannot even get pregnant with attempts at ovulation! Good luck to you, though might be some indication that this will be a good month for you, hope so x o

[XXforhubby]

I feel the same way Girlie! I just feel like I won't be able to get a BFP, since I'm breastfeeding my 8 month old I won't be able to get pregnant. I'm not willing to wean so we just keep trying. Maybe we will get lucky...FX!!




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[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
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[Girlieplease]

Hope so as well, at least you have an explanation of why your not conceiving, due to breast feeding, I have no reason. I understand that having a reason does not make it any easier to deal with! Glad to have your continued company on this journey, fingers crossed for us both x

[Burakoam]

I'm stalking until I see hubby and girlie get BFP's... But idk with what you said in the previous thread hubby I wouldn't count yourself out this month just yet...

[Inforthree]

I'm trying to stay positive but feeling a bit down too. We've been fortunate in the past to have conceived really easily. Hope this is our month!

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[DesiG]

Hello ladies I will be joining this one. We will be giving it a try at the beginning of August, hope to conversate with you all and hope we see bfp, this August!!

[jennypenny]

Fx for a lovely babymakin month for all of us :)

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[Girlieplease]

I feel the same way Girlie! I just feel like I won't be able to get a BFP, since I'm breastfeeding my 8 month old I won't be able to get pregnant. I'm not willing to wean so we just keep trying. Maybe we will get lucky...FX!!




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[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
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Xxforhubby I got pregnant with ds1 when dd was 8 and half months, I was still breastfeeding quite alot and I had not had a period, I can happen! I also had an undiagnosed and therefore untreated thyriod problem. That is part if the reason I cannot understand why I cannot get pregnant now give I have in the past under very unlikely circumstances x

[Girlieplease]

Had our second attempt at cd 10, dh is not happy, he thinks am too single minded about this! He does not understand how much hard work the diet and exercise is! Next attempt at cd 14 which is probably the crucial one! Love the baby makin month comment! X

[Girlieplease]

Hey ladies cd 11 here, I usually o cd 14 or 15, past two months I have been registering highd on cb fm from about day 6 or 7 and then continued highd until af arrived and I stop testing. I know this isn't great but I have conceived two children with endless highs. This month am at cd 11 and still registering low fertility? Am hoping that means my cycle has settled into the usual 2 day high, 2 day peak and 1 day high following peake? Am worried may not o this month? That has never happened to me with cb m before. Am also temping vaginally and my temps are all over the show? Amy advice? Am sticking with e4d's next attempt is Friday, thanks

[jenc8060]

Hi girls! I am need of some advice as I am debating what to do this month. Since this is my third month on Clomid & since I had a chemical at the beginning of the month, I was planning on E4D plus one attempt at + OPK. We BD two days ago (CD 8). Normally I always get my first high fertility on CD 12 & 13, then first peak on 14 and then ovulate 15. However, today is CD 10 and I got a high. Since we BD 2 days ago on CD 8, next BD attempt wasn’t supposed be until CD 12 but that will likely be my first positive OPK for peak, which would likely mean just one attempt during cycle, unless we BD 2 nights in a row.

Debating if I should BD now on CD 10 and then again on CD 12 OR just wait until CD 12 as I had planned and only end up with one attempt this cycle? The thought of two attempts this cycle scares me but then again the stats for conceiving after a miscarriage and on Clomid are so favored for pink that I am wondering if I should just go for 2 attempts to increase my odds this month.

As an FYI for both our first and second month TTC I was on Clomid 50 mg and we only had one attempt at positive OPK. First month DH did daily release until our attempt and then second month we did release e2d. No big O either time.

[jenc8060]

Hey ladies cd 11 here, I usually o cd 14 or 15, past two months I have been registering highd on cb fm from about day 6 or 7 and then continued highd until af arrived and I stop testing. I know this isn't great but I have conceived two children with endless highs. This month am at cd 11 and still registering low fertility? Am hoping that means my cycle has settled into the usual 2 day high, 2 day peak and 1 day high following peake? Am worried may not o this month? That has never happened to me with cb m before. Am also temping vaginally and my temps are all over the show? Amy advice? Am sticking with e4d's next attempt is Friday, thanks

Girlieplease have you lost a lot of weight with your sway recently? Back in January and February when I started my diet & exercise, my cycles and ovulation were very different than what I normally had. Once my weight loss slowed down in March, my cycles went back to normal. I still ovulated every month though so hopefully yours might just be off a bit this month!

[Girlieplease]

Hi girls! I am need of some advice as I am debating what to do this month. Since this is my third month on Clomid & since I had a chemical at the beginning of the month, I was planning on E4D plus one attempt at + OPK. We BD two days ago (CD 8). Normally I always get my first high fertility on CD 12 & 13, then first peak on 14 and then ovulate 15. However, today is CD 10 and I got a high. Since we BD 2 days ago on CD 8, next BD attempt wasn’t supposed be until CD 12 but that will likely be my first positive OPK for peak, which would likely mean just one attempt during cycle, unless we BD 2 nights in a row.

Debating if I should BD now on CD 10 and then again on CD 12 OR just wait until CD 12 as I had planned and only end up with one attempt this cycle? The thought of two attempts this cycle scares me but then again the stats for conceiving after a miscarriage and on Clomid are so favored for pink that I am wondering if I should just go for 2 attempts to increase my odds this month.

As an FYI for both our first and second month TTC I was on Clomid 50 mg and we only had one attempt at positive OPK. First month DH did daily release until our attempt and then second month we did release e2d. No big O either time.

Hopefully some more knowledgeable ladies will comment xxforhubby is good on timing! My 2 cents worth is I would be tempted not to bd 2 days in a row and stick with the one attempt. It depends on how quickly you want to get pregnant, if your good on the diet and exercise and you have a recent pregnancy that was lost plus Clomid maybe it is the optimum time to increase your odds of getting pregnant since all the above may cancel out the increased chance of blue. If you feel this is your optimal chance of pink them you need to do as much as you can to get pregnant, as atomic would say if your not pregnant you have no shot at your gd. As I talk it through am more inclined to opt for the two attempts. I was in a really good swaying place in July and for lots of reasons feel I had a great shot at a girl but I did not get pregnant, tough one, good luck!

I have lost nearly 7 stone ( 98 lbs) not all on the le, I started dieting and exercising about 18 months ago. Since going hard on le and exercise in April I have probably lost two stone? Do you think this is an issue? Day 12 today and no high on cb fertility monitor, I usually getting high by now. I will just keep plugging on with e4d's. I am having a blood draw at cd 21 so hopefully that will confirm if I have ovulated or not!

[jennypenny]

Wow 7 stone!!! That is fantastic! Well done on such an amazing weight loss!

I'm cd 13 today, decided to use opk strip tests this month. For the last few days it has shown a faint second line but not getting darker. Hopefully it will just get really dark tomorrow or Friday, and that I actually will ovulate .

Booked 21 day blood test for next Thursday.

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[maggie84]

I am joining in this month too! First day of femara today (2nd round), so hoping to O during my vacation week, first week of august. I am pretty sure I won't be able to loose weight while on vacation so I am trying to keep losing some weight right now.

I guess my only chance of swaying for a girl this month will be due to Femara and not so much diet. UGH! Trying not to sway too blue during vacation week (relax, drinks and a LOT of food), any suggestions?

Good luck everyone!!!! FX!

[XXforhubby]

Jenc- If 2 attempts scare you, then you could split the difference and BD on CD11, making it every 3 days which is pinker than BD every 4 days plus one attempt at positive opk.

Technically, the BD every 4 days and at positive opk would have you attempt when you get your positive opk, then resume your every 4 day frequency. It is having 2 attempts.

If you're truly stuck on what to do, then toss a coin to take away the stress of it all and be done with it.

FX and GL with whatever you decide!!!




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[SweetLily]

Hey ladies! Joining you this month and I'm so excited! I'm trying not to obsess which is why I don't come on here often, makes it harder for me. But here I am in the two. I think I am 9 dpo but FF has me pinned as 8 dpo. I guess one day doesn't matter. I'm not testing g early anyway as I have had so many chemicals. I'm waiting to test tuesday which is DHS birthday....he will be super happy if I'm pregnant again (and I really think I am) and it would be a lovely gift. I'd like to test sooner but I know I won't be able to keep it all in and I'll be exploding with excitement!

We were not ttc yet this month as we're going to wait one more but a month ago I got a nasty non infectious vaginitis and when I used spermicide at the beginning of my cycle it started returning so I *tried* to tell dh no or at least to pull out but he was thoroughly uncooperative and we got 4 attempts in my 4 fertile days! Not very pink!!!! I'm ok with it tho, almost 40 so I don't want to waste time (and by almost, I mean SEPTEMBER!!!)

XX I will be stalking your chart again, I hope this is your month! Everyone else, fx for you all!!!

[SweetLily]

Oh and ladies. ..when taking femera and clomid, my personal opinion is to get more attempts in rather than less. You can only take that stuff for a few cycles of your entire LIFE and the drs here limit it to about 6 months so make it count! If in doubt, I would bd anyway. Just my 2 cents, I've been on this board dunce 2011 and the one thing I've learned is you have no chance for your DG if you font get pregnant at all.

I think I'm a little skewed after our loss and my subsequent illness. I had to do a lot to get healthy enough to try again and none of it was pink friendly but I had to give in or give up on ever having another. Kinda changes your perspective. Just thought id share ;)

Gl no matter what you decide to do!

[XXforhubby]

Good to see you Sweet Lily!! I sure hope this is your month! I'm hoping and praying that this is your rainbow baby!!!




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[tfahn]

And I'm still here, CD3 of cycle #17 of trying. Starting my Femara this evening and Gonal F injections on Monday, will head back to the RE next Wednesday for an ultrasound to hopefully catch my follicles before they get to big like last month. Hoping to take the trigger shot this month to see if that helps at all.

Good luck everyone.

[Inforthree]

Jenc- If 2 attempts scare you, then you could split the difference and BD on CD11, making it every 3 days which is pinker than BD every 4 days plus one attempt at positive opk.

Technically, the BD every 4 days and at positive opk would have you attempt when you get your positive opk, then resume your every 4 day frequency. It is having 2 attempts.

If you're truly stuck on what to do, then toss a coin to take away the stress of it all and be done with it.

FX and GL with whatever you decide!!!




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[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)
I agree ED3 sounds like a good idea! I also think flipping a coin is a good way to decide because in the end we never know if we're making the absolute right choice, we just can't! GL!

Welcome everyone! Hope this is a bountiful month for us all!

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[1282]

XXforhubby, you give such lovely support to everyone [emoji3] (I am mainly on the HT boards but always read the 2WW threads too).

I just wanted to say I got pregnant with DS2 whilst breastfeeding DS1 when he was 8.5 months old with only one AF since giving birth. So I hope this is your month xx


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[Burakoam]

Hubby!!! Think of me as your alarm.... Time to test!!!! Lol

[XXforhubby]

Hahaha! I will test about 7-10 days from now. FF finally gave me crosshairs and while my temps are pretty high, I do agree with FF on when I ovulated.

I need to vent ladies. Things are pretty stressful right now, and I'm not sure of anything at the moment. We move into our new house a week from now, and we are meeting with a Realtor to sell our current house. We need to finish packing and get it ready to show. My DH started back at work (he's a school Principal). He's become very vocal recently that he's stressed about the kids we have and doesn't want anymore. I finally told him today how I feel, which is that I listen to him vent but it's not reciprocated. I'm trying to come his way and come to a place where I am at peace with the children we have. I just feel like someone is missing. It sucks because my husband gives off vibes that he doesn't like our 8 month old and that breaks my heart! I don't want that for my sweet baby yet alone another. I regret having children with him- how he's acting. I'm not sure what this means for us, and I don't think we are going to TTC in the future. He sends me mixed messages. He says all this negative stuff, yet he always initiates unprotected sex with me and mentions a 4th all the time. He's obviously conflicted and puts TTCing at an impasse. If I am pregnant, well I will wait to tell him. I don't feel like I'll end up with a BFP, and I'm mostly ok with that.

Please pray for me and my children. My DH is not in a good place right now.




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[Burakoam]

So sorry Hubby :( prayers that DH pulls his head out of his butt and stops giving the mixed messages. Playing therapist for a minute, I remember your last pregnancy and you mentioning he was really hoping for a girl and even being a little surprised that he was so happy with DS3.. I suspect he does have a little GD and maybe it's just now something he's accepting and trying to work through and maybe that's the "vibe" you are getting off of him... Would make sense that that's also why he flips back and forth between trying again and leaving it be...and giving you the mixed messages.

I think that he will come around but I would talk to him because if this is the case maybe the potential for a 4th boy would be a bad idea in this case... But it's your family and your children so you need to decide what you think has the best outcome for YOU!

[SweetLily]

Oh my goodness XX! I am SO SORRY you are going thru this. My dh has been off and on for years, cold feet and worried about the responsibility etc. Yet then like this month I tell him I can't use bc, am about to ovulate and he Dtd 4 times unprotected!!! l told him I think I'm pregnant and he said he'd be very happy if I am so that explained that!

I don't know what to tell you but having kids with a jerk is never a good idea. It could be he's just so internally conflicted and won't voice what he's feeling abd it's not the way you think it is. You should have a really deep talk with him and discern how he really feels and where he's really at. Maybe the new house etc is just too much stress at once for him and he just needs a couple of months before he's ready again?

In any case, I send huge hugs. I will think on this and see if I can give better advice when I have more time, I do have an experience to share later.

Afm, I feel SO pregnant. I started progesterone cause at 6 dpo I had spotting g and was feeling pretty pregnant already but now the progesterone has taken over and is screwing with me. Not going to trust my symptoms...but I feel uber pregnant still. I've had so many chemicals irs hard to get excited or hopeful (and then of course this springs terrible loss). I am testing g Saturday when I will be 11 or 12 dpo since I have a really tough job this weekend that I refuse to do if I am actually pregnant but I'm officially testing and staying on progesterone til Tuesday when af is due and is DHS bday. I guess we shall see!

[XXforhubby]

DH and I finally talked. He goes back and forth with wanting another child, but he is ok with another boy. He said that with the move and starting a new school year, he just feels overwhelmed at times. He said that he's sorry about that and that I am a great mom. He said he loves our kids and is wanting to still try until this December. He's ok if I do get pregnant. He also apologized for the snide remarks and that wasn't very appropriate.

I was so shocked by his behavior since it's not like him! I told him that really inhibits communication when he acts that way and that is not healthy. It's one thing to say you need time before you can talk about something, and it's another when you make snide comments.

We will see. I'm not sure I want to continue to TTC. This time of the year is hard on my DH. He doesn't handle transitions well and it's amplified by our move. At least I know where things stand!

Thanks ladies! My best friend is about to go into labor, and I didn't have anyone else I could talk to! You're all the best [emoji8]!!




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[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
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[jenc8060]

DH and I finally talked. He goes back and forth with wanting another child, but he is ok with another boy. He said that with the move and starting a new school year, he just feels overwhelmed at times. He said that he's sorry about that and that I am a great mom. He said he loves our kids and is wanting to still try until this December. He's ok if I do get pregnant. He also apologized for the snide remarks and that wasn't very appropriate.

I was so shocked by his behavior since it's not like him! I told him that really inhibits communication when he acts that way and that is not healthy. It's one thing to say you need time before you can talk about something, and it's another when you make snide comments.

We will see. I'm not sure I want to continue to TTC. This time of the year is hard on my DH. He doesn't handle transitions well and it's amplified by our move. At least I know where things stand!

Thanks ladies! My best friend is about to go into labor, and I didn't have anyone else I could talk to! You're all the best [emoji8]!!




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[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

Glad to hear your conversation with DH went well! I think TTC adds stress to any relationship, especially when it doesn't happen right away. When you add swaying in, it creates an entirely new level of strain. And when other stressful life situations occur, I think it all becomes too much for everyone, especially DH. Hang in there! Hopefully once the move is done and you are settled in things will go more or less back to normal! Everything is just intensified at the moment but this too shall pass!

[jenc8060]

Thanks for the feedback several of you gave me on my BD timing the other day! I am still getting a high (now CD 12) so I am hopeful my cycle is normal and that I will ovulate on CD 15 as usual.

We are going to BD tonight CD 12 (last time was 4 days ago) and then assuming I get a peak tomorrow on CD 13 and on CD 14 we will probably BD again on CD 14 so 2 attempts this cycle.

What SweetLily said really resonated with me...I have a limited number of cycles I can take the Clomid for and I should really take advantage of it while I can. The 2 attempts make me nervous, but I think only having 1 attempt and NOT getting PG and having to take a fourth round of Clomod make me even more nervous...the 2 attempts just might be the lesser of two evils...:nails:

[Lissastick]

I think this month is already a bust. I am ovulating today (OPK just turned positive, rather) and I wanted our attempt to be the day before I got a positive OPK, as that is when I got pregnant in June (chemical). So, I'm assuming that is the magical day.

My husband and I tried to get in an attempt today before he went to work, but our son just won't let us. He's in our faces all the time, he never naps and when he finally decides to sleep, we're exhausted, so we sleep too. Sigh.

I really think trying later won't even work out, but, even if it did, I think it's pointless because I am pretty sure we missed the prime day.

Looking on the bright side, at least I will have most of August to do a better sway!

But, I'm starting to feel like I don't even want a second child at all 😔

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[Lissastick]

Ok. Hubs and I finally got an attempt in...
Now I am not sure if we should go ahead and do another attempt tomorrow or not.
I have been pretty solid with my sway for the past month, so I wonder if 2 attempts would still keep me in the running...

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[Burakoam]

Lissa I say that has to be your choice I know two times at positive OPK is more of a boy tactic but you also can't get pregnant at all if you miss the window... Maybe have DH release before hand to lower his sperm count and then Get in another attempt? But I think for a pink sway others will chime in and say one attempt once the OPK is positive is good for pink however you are more likely to get pregnant, period, with one more attempt I believe

[jennypenny]

Hmmmm cd15 and still no positive opk. Have had very faint second line on strip all month though!

Need advice!
Should I change my blood test on cd21 to check progesterone levels until 7 days after I do get a positive opk? Or just keep it at cd21?

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[Girlieplease]

Right need advice cd 14, clear blue fertility monitor registered high since yesterday but I used the clear blue digital ovulation predictor and both days got an empty circle. We attempted Monday morning, my plan was to attempt tonight but think I should leave it until tomorrow? Am worried I will get a positive OPK on Sat or Sunday and I don't think my husbands swimmers hang around. I dont know if an attempt tonight would be splitting the difference anyway? To bd tonight or tomorrow morning or tomorrow evening? Suppose am just concerned about this attempt been too far from o but then having a panic and attempting again in fertile window?
Jen am in same boat but because I am not sure when am ovulating these days am sticking with getting bloods taken at cd 20, 21 is a Saturday here. In June I ovulated on cd 21, but gp and I will maybe just have to try and make sense of the findings in light of what I will know about my cycle at that time, temperature profile, ovulation signs etc, good luck!

[Girlieplease]

Hahaha! I will test about 7-10 days from now. FF finally gave me crosshairs and while my temps are pretty high, I do agree with FF on when I ovulated.

I need to vent ladies. Things are pretty stressful right now, and I'm not sure of anything at the moment. We move into our new house a week from now, and we are meeting with a Realtor to sell our current house. We need to finish packing and get it ready to show. My DH started back at work (he's a school Principal). He's become very vocal recently that he's stressed about the kids we have and doesn't want anymore. I finally told him today how I feel, which is that I listen to him vent but it's not reciprocated. I'm trying to come his way and come to a place where I am at peace with the children we have. I just feel like someone is missing. It sucks because my husband gives off vibes that he doesn't like our 8 month old and that breaks my heart! I don't want that for my sweet baby yet alone another. I regret having children with him- how he's acting. I'm not sure what this means for us, and I don't think we are going to TTC in the future. He sends me mixed messages. He says all this negative stuff, yet he always initiates unprotected sex with me and mentions a 4th all the time. He's obviously conflicted and puts TTCing at an impasse. If I am pregnant, well I will wait to tell him. I don't feel like I'll end up with a BFP, and I'm mostly ok with that.

Please pray for me and my children. My DH is not in a good place right now.




[emoji170]DS1[emoji1379], DS2 [emoji602], & DS3 [emoji577][emoji170]
[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

Glad you and DH sorted stuff out. I find with my dh that he is so much more influenced by factors on a day to day basis. I seem to be able now I have made the decision to have another baby, to hold that steady despite what is happening on a daily basis. If the children are ill or my dh is stressed he seems more likely to make comments like he is not sure he can cope with another. I find that frustrating as I feel that am putting myself out more, that should be the case as it is me that wants another. In your case your doing this in part for hubby, that would irritate me, glad you have come to a resolution!

[Girlieplease]

Ok. Hubs and I finally got an attempt in...
Now I am not sure if we should go ahead and do another attempt tomorrow or not.
I have been pretty solid with my sway for the past month, so I wonder if 2 attempts would still keep me in the running...

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Such a tricky one, though I think I will be in a similar situation. The difference between us is you have conceived recently, that would suggest to be that your highly fertile, therefore may be best to stick with one attempt. Also you had a cp recently, that sways pink, though so it might be wise to up your attempts to capitalise in that sway tactic. However, I don't know how long that acts as a sway? Is it only the first cycle after a loss? For my part I have failed to conceive the past two months despite well timed attempts, so I might add attempts to increase my chances. I am also having blood test at cd 21 to check I am ovulating so it might be prudent to wait for the outcome of that and add attempts next month! Good luck, x

[Pbn3]

Hmmmm cd15 and still no positive opk. Have had very faint second line on strip all month though!

Need advice!
Should I change my blood test on cd21 to check progesterone levels until 7 days after I do get a positive opk? Or just keep it at cd21?

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Jenny IMO I'd change appointment and make it once you get a pos opk to 8 days later. The cd21 test is based on an 'average o' at cd14 (or 28 day cycle) and when progesterone reading should peak (between 6-8 days after o I believe). If, for example, you o two days before test then the reading will be inaccurate.

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[purple]

Ok. Hubs and I finally got an attempt in...
Now I am not sure if we should go ahead and do another attempt tomorrow or not.
I have been pretty solid with my sway for the past month, so I wonder if 2 attempts would still keep me in the running...

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This pregnancy and my one last year were both from attempts at OPK+ so it is possible. I would probably leave it with the 1 attempt unless you have been trying a long time.

[kc15880]

goodluck everyone! Im CD17 today & I think I will get a positive OPK tomorrow for our first attempt. XXforhubby, I was still breastfeeding my toddler 3 times a day thought out my second pregnancy & I am hoping to do the same this time around. There are some great tandem feeding facebook support groups that I highly recommend if you get you BFP.

[XXforhubby]

I feel so disillusioned. My DH said that he's sorry for giving me the wrong impression yesterday, but he doesn't want anymore children. He wishes he did, because he knows how badly I long for another child. Since we are at an impasse, we've decided to stop TTCing- we don't want to ruin our marriage. I wish that I didn't feel like there is someone else I haven't met yet. It's so palpable.

To complicate matters, my best friend is going to give birth to her 4th baby and moment now. While I'm over the moon for her, it's going to be very much in my face what I long for but cannot have.

Sadly, I won't be in here much, if at all. I'm going to be moving into our new house and trying to get our house sold. Since I long to know the outcome of your journeys, please PM me! I want to know what happens with all of you and want to keep in touch! PMing, will be much easier for me.

Please keep me in your prayers, and will do the same for all of you! Thank you all for everything. Your support has meant SO much to me!

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[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
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[Inforthree]

I feel so disillusioned. My DH said that he's sorry for giving me the wrong impression yesterday, but he doesn't want anymore children. He wishes he did, because he knows how badly I long for another child. Since we are at an impasse, we've decided to stop TTCing- we don't want to ruin our marriage. I wish that I didn't feel like there is someone else I haven't met yet. It's so palpable.

To complicate matters, my best friend is going to give birth to her 4th baby and moment now. While I'm over the moon for her, it's going to be very much in my face what I long for but cannot have.

Sadly, I won't be in here much, if at all. I'm going to be moving into our new house and trying to get our house sold. Since I long to know the outcome of your journeys, please PM me! I want to know what happens with all of you and want to keep in touch! PMing, will be much easier for me.

Please keep me in your prayers, and will do the same for all of you! Thank you all for everything. Your support has meant SO much to me!

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Sorry to hear this, XX. The TTC process is so agonizing, there's always time to back out or change your mind and that makes people keep evaluating and reevaluating their choices. Generally I think it's easier to be decisive so long TTCing seems destined to make people confused and upset. I hope you and your family come to the best decision for you all. Good luck with the move, maybe we'll see you back when things settle down!

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[Girlieplease]

I feel so disillusioned. My DH said that he's sorry for giving me the wrong impression yesterday, but he doesn't want anymore children. He wishes he did, because he knows how badly I long for another child. Since we are at an impasse, we've decided to stop TTCing- we don't want to ruin our marriage. I wish that I didn't feel like there is someone else I haven't met yet. It's so palpable.

To complicate matters, my best friend is going to give birth to her 4th baby and moment now. While I'm over the moon for her, it's going to be very much in my face what I long for but cannot have.

Sadly, I won't be in here much, if at all. I'm going to be moving into our new house and trying to get our house sold. Since I long to know the outcome of your journeys, please PM me! I want to know what happens with all of you and want to keep in touch! PMing, will be much easier for me.

Please keep me in your prayers, and will do the same for all of you! Thank you all for everything. Your support has meant SO much to me!

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Oh no xxforhubby, so sorry to read this. I will miss you so much, you have been so supportive. I think it is mad how attached I have become to people I don't even know. I wish you and your boys well, I hope you find peace and I hope you have a wonderful happy life. If you do decide to return I will probably still be in this board saying look at my cycle, why can't I get pregnant! Sending hugs, x

[Girlieplease]

I don't know how to pm people? But if I find out how to I certainly will xxforhubby x

[Beautifulrainbow]

Xx I'm so sorry to hear this. Wishing you all the best.xx
I will certainly pm you to find out how you are getting on in the future. Take care of yourself and your family.xxx (((hugs)))

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[farmgirl33]

Xx I know exactly how you feel. DH has continued giving me mixed signals too. He makes little comments all the time like "I'm happy with our family how it is" & if the kids are playing up or are sick he says "and you want another one". I have tried to get him to talk & he always just says well I am happy with how things are but you want another one so we'll keep trying until November. Last night I finally got him to open up more & he admitted he would be gutted if we had another girl & would feel like a failure. If we could guarantee a boy he would be happy but we cannot afford to travel overseas to do that & morally I couldnt anyway (no judgement against those who take this path). He says we don't need anymore girls in the family & I said then I can't continue to ttc knowing that he wouldn't cope with another girl, it just doesn't seem right & I feel that he would resent me for it as I'm the one that wants another one & I would love a boy but would be happy with another girl too. I just wish he had been honest about his true feelings earlier. I never would have started ttc if I knew he wouldn't cope with another girl. Why do men find it so hard to communicate. I feel like the last 18 months of my life have been a waste. I came off the pill in November 2014 & we put off ttc a couple of times last year due to other commitments & I was just tracking my cycle until December last year when we started ttc. I have gained weight & feel horrible about myself as well which isn't helping. We are going away tomorrow as dd3 has an appointment in a city 5 hours away on Monday so DH has said we will talk more in the car. So it looks like I may no longer be ttcing either. I am currently 7dpo & would be really surprised if I was pregnant. Temps aren't doing much & I feel normal & we only got 2 attempts in.


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[jenc8060]

Lissa I say that has to be your choice I know two times at positive OPK is more of a boy tactic but you also can't get pregnant at all if you miss the window... Maybe have DH release before hand to lower his sperm count and then Get in another attempt? But I think for a pink sway others will chime in and say one attempt once the OPK is positive is good for pink however you are more likely to get pregnant, period, with one more attempt I believe

I think this is great advice Lissa, especially if you want to get pregnant quickly. I too was debating having one or two attempts this month (third cycle on Clomid, had a chemical last month).

I ultimately decided to do two attempts. I did a J&D first attempt and we will do our second attempt tomorrow but I will likely lay down for 5-10 minutes.

[jenc8060]

I feel so disillusioned. My DH said that he's sorry for giving me the wrong impression yesterday, but he doesn't want anymore children. He wishes he did, because he knows how badly I long for another child. Since we are at an impasse, we've decided to stop TTCing- we don't want to ruin our marriage. I wish that I didn't feel like there is someone else I haven't met yet. It's so palpable.

To complicate matters, my best friend is going to give birth to her 4th baby and moment now. While I'm over the moon for her, it's going to be very much in my face what I long for but cannot have.

Sadly, I won't be in here much, if at all. I'm going to be moving into our new house and trying to get our house sold. Since I long to know the outcome of your journeys, please PM me! I want to know what happens with all of you and want to keep in touch! PMing, will be much easier for me.

Please keep me in your prayers, and will do the same for all of you! Thank you all for everything. Your support has meant SO much to me!

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Huge hugs to you! Hopefully after things calm down in a few months your DH might be more open to the idea again. In the meantime, hang in there and we will be thinking of you!

[SweetLily]

Oh my goodness, what a day of awful news! !!

XX you have been such a cheerleader for so many. Sending you huge hugs. I understand the bf baby thing, my DHS sister is pregnant and he wonders why I don't want to look at her cure pregnant belly. Did I mention she got pregnant the month I lost Lily? Yeah...kick in the gut even tho I am SUPER happy for her and excited to be an auntie. It's just been a tough road. I'm sure you will find your equilibrium again...but...and this is for BOTH you ladies... If a baby means so much to you, you might begin to resent your husbands and marriages. I think it can be damaging to
a marriage from experiences with other people. It's one if those things that for some ppl makes them reevaluate the whole marriage. I know ppl who have gotten divorced over this! Not being a herbinger of relationship death but it's something you both need to really do some soul searching over and decide what's right for you.

Hang in there girls, huge hugs and so unbelievably sorry.

[SweetLily]

I feel like I'm so out, I tested today at 10 dpo and got a bfn. But if I get one more high temp my chart is triphasic...so I'm hoping...

I wanted to post my chart but I can't get the link to work :/

[Pretty]

Hi ladies! I have been trying to be good and not swaycess but I haven't exactly been an angel... Soooooo I'm back! I took my second round of femara this cycle and had a 20mm follie as of Thursday! Got an attempt in last night and got a SUPER dark +opk today. Hoping to have a temp spike in the morning :) if it's not there, I'm not sure if I should throw in one more attempt, any advice would be appreciated! Hugs xx and farmgirl

[XXforhubby]

OMG! My DH had a long talk with a mutual friend and came to the realization that he should follow through with TTCing until December. Our friend pointed out that I always support him in all endeavors no matter the impact on our family. While having a 4th child requires some help from him, I provide 90% of the care until age 2. I have not asked for anything other than this, and I have agreed to his terms. At least he could follow through with his. Wow!

We had a heart to heart and both listened to each other's points of view. While he had reservations of what a 4th child will have on our family, he said I am a great mom and will continue to provide great care and love to all our kids. The thought of 4 kids does overwhelm him a bit, disappointing me breaks his heart. I told him that I can help when he feels overwhelmed by taking on more responsibility when he is home instead of relying on him a lot. I told him he will have to communicate with me and let me know. He said he will continue to do his part and BD frequently as long as I continue to listen to his concerns. I certainly can do that knowing where we stand! I'm glad we are back on track!

Whew!




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[XXforhubby]

Thanks for all of your support! Did you all really think I could stay away for long [emoji38] [emoji12]!

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[Lissastick]

I'm so glad you have worked things out, XXforhubby!

I am doing terrible keeping up with the sway since day before O. Totally slacking with exercising, and yesterday I was eating too often. Ugh. Whatever. I don't think we will conceive this month anyway. We stuck with the one attempt but my opk was positive today too, which means we may have got our attempt in at our magic day.

Still, I am kind of hoping that it didn't work because I will have more time to make this sway count!

Unless I change my mind before then and decide a second child isn't what I really want. I really want to get back into my career!

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[Burakoam]

thats good that your OPK is still positive! hoping that gives you a better shot at your daughter if you do conceive this month :)

hubby!!! im so happy for you. I hope you get your daughter..i have a feeling that may very well be why you feel you have someone yet to meet...i am praying for you :)

[3'sacharm]

OMG! My DH had a long talk with a mutual friend and came to the realization that he should follow through with TTCing until December. Our friend pointed out that I always support him in all endeavors no matter the impact on our family. While having a 4th child requires some help from him, I provide 90% of the care until age 2. I have not asked for anything other than this, and I have agreed to his terms. At least he could follow through with his. Wow!

We had a heart to heart and both listened to each other's points of view. While he had reservations of what a 4th child will have on our family, he said I am a great mom and will continue to provide great care and love to all our kids. The thought of 4 kids does overwhelm him a bit, disappointing me breaks his heart. I told him that I can help when he feels overwhelmed by taking on more responsibility when he is home instead of relying on him a lot. I told him he will have to communicate with me and let me know. He said he will continue to do his part and BD frequently as long as I continue to listen to his concerns. I certainly can do that knowing where we stand! I'm glad we are back on track!

Whew!




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Hijacking to say amazing news xxhubbyxx I'm thrilled for you that your hubby has come around again! Good luck xx

[XXforhubby]

Thank you ladies for all of your support! The funny thing is, this whole swaying business has changed me! This type of stress used to cause me to snack. Now, it caused my appetite to stop! I totaled up my food for the day, and I was sitting at 1300 cals, fat 32g, protein 31g [emoji51][emoji51]! I'm still breastfeeding a lot, but I haven't noticed my supply lessening so I will start to eat a bit more. I usually get 1600-1700, 40-50g for both fat and protein.

My grandma who is like my mom, she has 3 girls. I confided in her a bit about being stressed (not going into details), and she said that's how stress affects her. She's been my gauge on how to implement the "girl mindset". She was surprised that I didn't lay into my DH. I just was too upset by his behavior and felt defeated, which now looking back on it, is something I never felt before. Thank goodness for myfitnesspal! It makes sticking to the limits so easy!!

Thanks for reading my ramblings! Hopefully we will see more BFPs soon! Who is due to test?




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[Grace]

XX I'm so glad you're still here, it wouldn't be the same without you!! Hopefuly your DH will stop this nonsense and go back to being supportive, I kind of remember you said great things about him in the past. Sometimes they're going through a tough stage and take it out on us. Whenever dh acts up like that I tell my self probably his testosterone levels have dropped and that is good for my sway , hahaha!

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[Grace]

We just came back from a family holiday in Germany. My diet was so bad these past 9 days, absolutly horrible. I actually found myself waiting to come home and return to my LE eating habbits. Today is cd9 for me, continuing BD every 3 days. Good luck ladies!!

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[Girlieplease]

Yeah xxforhubby brilliant news was, I would have missed your input so much! What cycle day are you?

Decided attempt last night and now am thinking it may have been too late! Though I only got a flashing smilie this morning. I have had two temp increases in a row. I should have bd Friday am but no opportunity so had to opt for Friday pm but dh likes to draw the process out so it ended up as an attempt at 12:15 so technically Saturday am, do you think it will make a difference?

[kc15880]

perhaps a silly question for you ladies - but why do you test for positive OPK days after you get the positive? Once I get the positive OPK I stop testing (having said that I also get great signs physically as well).

[XXforhubby]

Yeah xxforhubby brilliant news was, I would have missed your input so much! What cycle day are you?

Decided attempt last night and now am thinking it may have been too late! Though I only got a flashing smilie this morning. I have had two temp increases in a row. I should have bd Friday am but no opportunity so had to opt for Friday pm but dh likes to draw the process out so it ended up as an attempt at 12:15 so technically Saturday am, do you think it will make a difference?

Thanks! I'm 6DPO today. I don't think it will make a difference having your attempt pm vs am. I don't think you're too late!

FX for you!!!




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[XXforhubby]

perhaps a silly question for you ladies - but why do you test for positive OPK days after you get the positive? Once I get the positive OPK I stop testing (having said that I also get great signs physically as well).

Some people never quite get a positive so they keep testing, or they have had false surges (false positives) before and want to make certain they catch the real surge. This often happens while taking Clomid.




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[jennypenny]

Finally have a positive opk! Cd16 so at least that's not too late. Plan to change my blood progesterone test so that it is 7dpo.



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[Burakoam]

perhaps a silly question for you ladies - but why do you test for positive OPK days after you get the positive? Once I get the positive OPK I stop testing (having said that I also get great signs physically as well).

Because i have a history of not ovulating or ovulating late thanks to PCOS I dont ever get great physical symptoms...if i hadnt kept testing, i would have missed my actual ovulation and i probably wouldnt be pregnant right now.

[Girlieplease]

Right, need more advice. I am doing e4d's, cd 16. I bd on Friday about 11:30pm. On Friday morning I got a high on clear blue fertility monitor but an empty circle on digital. Saturday morning I got a flashing smilie on digital. This morning for the first time in a good few months I got an ehh symbol on the clear blue fertility monitor, i thought I would never see other again. I got a static smilie on digital so am defo ovulating. My dilemma is I could o in the next 12 to 36 hours but obviously this process started at some point between yesterday morning and this morning so I could be well into this time frame already. Am not due to bd again until Tuesday pm, which but my limited knowledge will be too far out? If i move to e3d's that would be Monday pm, better but still think far out? So my only choice is to hope that the attempt on Friday was close enough? Or attempt tomorrow morning? If I had an empty circle on the digital on Friday am, technically could I say that was not in my fertile window? I had ewcm on Friday. Just looking for opinions, I realise it is ultimately my choice but would have sex on Friday at 11:30pm and Monday am put me very much into blue territory? Or anyone have any other suggestions about better timing? I have had two unsuccessful attempts June and July, despite timing been spot on. It made me question if I was o as I never got the egg symbol. Am concerned given my age I may not o every month and if I don't capitalise on this month it might be a few months more. I have been in the le diet and exercising 6 days per week since April, getting fed up with it and worry am going to slacker and slacker at it. Sorry for the long post, any advice greatly appreciated, x

[XXforhubby]

This is why I really dislike using opks with the E4D or E3D method- all it does is cause unnecessary panic that could be avoided otherwise.

To answer your question, no matter what you choose you are facing having 2 attempts in your fertile window. If you are ok with that, then have an attempt either tonight late or tomorrow morning- it is the same difference. If you are not ok having 2 attempts in your fertile window, then have your attempt either Tuesday in the morning or Tuesday night.

Honestly, just pick one and stick with it. This stress you put yourself under is likely to delay O or inhibit conception. In the future, stick with one thing only- attempt at FIRST positive opk, E3D, or E4D, and leave it at that. If you want to do anything extra you can chart your temp but just choose ONE pattern for BDing.

FX and GL to you.




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[3'sacharm]

Right, need more advice. I am doing e4d's, cd 16. I bd on Friday about 11:30pm. On Friday morning I got a high on clear blue fertility monitor but an empty circle on digital. Saturday morning I got a flashing smilie on digital. This morning for the first time in a good few months I got an ehh symbol on the clear blue fertility monitor, i thought I would never see other again. I got a static smilie on digital so am defo ovulating. My dilemma is I could o in the next 12 to 36 hours but obviously this process started at some point between yesterday morning and this morning so I could be well into this time frame already. Am not due to bd again until Tuesday pm, which but my limited knowledge will be too far out? If i move to e3d's that would be Monday pm, better but still think far out? So my only choice is to hope that the attempt on Friday was close enough? Or attempt tomorrow morning? If I had an empty circle on the digital on Friday am, technically could I say that was not in my fertile window? I had ewcm on Friday. Just looking for opinions, I realise it is ultimately my choice but would have sex on Friday at 11:30pm and Monday am put me very much into blue territory? Or anyone have any other suggestions about better timing? I have had two unsuccessful attempts June and July, despite timing been spot on. It made me question if I was o as I never got the egg symbol. Am concerned given my age I may not o every month and if I don't capitalise on this month it might be a few months more. I have been in the le diet and exercising 6 days per week since April, getting fed up with it and worry am going to slacker and slacker at it. Sorry for the long post, any advice greatly appreciated, x


The month I got my bfp, I had been trying to do e4d but sometimes going longer. We dtd on CD12 and CD16, I don't do opks but based on ov signs, I *think* I ov on either CD15 or CD16, so I really didn't think it was going to happen but 2 weeks later I got my BFP! So, it can happen, and I do like the idea of doing e4d to ensure you get an attempt in without risking too many!x

[XXforhubby]

Even E3D often ends up with one viable attempt. For instance, this month I had an O-3 and an O attempt. Technically 2 attempts but only one being realistically viable since not many attempts on O day end up with a BFP.




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[Girlieplease]

Thanks ladies, am really not sure but tempted to stick with every three days. I think both e3d's @ e4d's would be too late as at the very latest I will o tomorrow night and highly likely before then. So bding tomorrow pm would fit with e3d's but still an ineffective an attempts as will be too late. Realistically I think I would need to BD tonight but that would only be 48 hours between attempts and at one my third month trying it is too much blue terrority. I just seem to have opted for the wrong method each month, the past two months I went with at positive OPK but due to no egg symbol on the clear blue fertility monitor I then moved to e4d's, with hindsight June and July I would have been better opting for e4d's from the start but this month I went for e4d's from the start and would have been better to have waited for positive OPK this month. Suppose turns the brakes! How long do average sperm hang around? I know they can survive for something like 5 days but what is usual life span? I think I read it was only one or two days at most? Any chance from an attempt on early hours of Saturday morning with possible ovulation Monday? I just have a feeling my dh swimmers don't hang around!

[Girlieplease]

Xxforhubby your chart is looking quite promising?
Previous post was suppose to read thems the brakes!

[jennypenny]

Thanks ladies, am really not sure but tempted to stick with every three days. I think both e3d's @ e4d's would be too late as at the very latest I will o tomorrow night and highly likely before then. So bding tomorrow pm would fit with e3d's but still an ineffective an attempts as will be too late. Realistically I think I would need to BD tonight but that would only be 48 hours between attempts and at one my third month trying it is too much blue terrority. I just seem to have opted for the wrong method each month, the past two months I went with at positive OPK but due to no egg symbol on the clear blue fertility monitor I then moved to e4d's, with hindsight June and July I would have been better opting for e4d's from the start but this month I went for e4d's from the start and would have been better to have waited for positive OPK this month. Suppose turns the brakes! How long do average sperm hang around? I know they can survive for something like 5 days but what is usual life span? I think I read it was only one or two days at most? Any chance from an attempt on early hours of Saturday morning with possible ovulation Monday? I just have a feeling my dh swimmers don't hang around!
I think I would be tempted to have an extra attempt tonight if I were u. As you have a good strong positive opk which have not been getting lately.

This is only my opinion and totally your choice in what you prefer to do.
I have definitely had 2 attempts in fertile window this month, as i feel that I now just want to get pregnant!
I think this 6 months of ttc have really helped with my gender desire :)

Let us know what you decide! (I'm so nosy!!)xxx

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[XXforhubby]

You're facing 2 attempts anyway if you do E3D and go with tomorrow early morning (before kids wake up) or tomorrow night. If you're worried it will be too late, then I would opt for tonight.

The thing is, you're trying to make things fit with what you want to do. It's not going to be a "pink" attempt. Worrying about it is not going to help. Flip a coin and go with what the coin says. Heads you have an attempt tonight, and tails you have an attempt tomorrow. No matter what you do, you've got to find peace with it. I get the impression from you that if you attempt tonight, you're going to stew over it being too blue. As well as if you wait to attempt until tomorrow sometime, you're going to stew over possibly missing the egg. You see, you're setting yourself up for unnecessary disappointment. Make a decision and don't look back. Working yourself up over this is going to sway far more blue than any attempt will!

I gotta say though, having attempts over 2 days is mighty blue. If you ovulate today, the egg stays around 12-24 hours. You may have already released the egg. Flip that coin and put it out of your mind [emoji6]!




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[XXforhubby]

Xxforhubby your chart is looking quite promising?
Previous post was suppose to read thems the brakes!

I'm trying to not get my hopes up, since I've had good looking charts before that were BFNs. However, it's making feel like things are finally settling down hormonal wise for me postpartum. My DS3 breastfeeds 6-7 times a day now with one feeding overnight and solids twice a day. I've now been able to reduce my calories to 1500-1600 with 50-60g protein and 40-50g fat. This is my sweet spot! The cardio had been kinda hit and miss with 4-5 times a week now that our closing date is approaching at the end of this week. I'll be lucky to fit it in and hope to get my 6 days in before Friday when we close on the house!




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[Girlieplease]

Thanks everyone, I think am going to stick with e3d and leave it tonight, I think tomorrow night will be too late, so will still keep me with one attempt. Jennypenny if I had been trying for six months I would be defo adding attempts but it is only month 3, I sort of feel that if I got an egg symbol once I can get it again! Your so right xxforhubby but I think I will stew less about missing the egg than about sway been too blue if you know what I mean? With not attempting tonight the worst outcome is another missed month and have dealt with that, if I attempt and get pregnant high chance of it been a boy and I know I would be disappointed as this is my last baby and I would be annoyed that I did not wait. Thanks for all your input, I really appreciate it!

When are you testing xxforhubby? What stage are others at?

[XXforhubby]

I will be testing either Thursday (11dpo) or Friday (12dpo) morning. AF should arrive Saturday or Sunday. We will be moving on Saturday so I hope to know before then to know how much I can do.

I just don't feel pregnant. It's weird- I haven't had a huge increase in appetite that I normally get in the 2ww. It's been real easy for me to stick to the no snacking part. I guess that's why I don't think I'll get a BFP this cycle. I think my hormones are still balancing out. Who knows though!




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[Burakoam]

Girlie something to keep in mind. I had a lot of other girl factors to be fair but when I got pregnant with my youngest DD it was "blue" timing. You have to live with whatever you decide but if you have been on the girl sway long enough and doing all that you can, even DTD tonight gets you a good chance of a daughter of you have done well on your sway otherwise

[Pink Pony]

What would u say was your girl key factors as far as LE lifestyle goes since you have 3 girls? Thanks

[Girlieplease]

Thanks burakoam, seems the universe has intervened ds2 is not settling so is in our bed, he has been waking every half an hour, baby making plans are defo out the window!
Any chance that the swimmers from early Saturday morning will hang around? X

[Burakoam]

What I ate. I had enough protein in the form of milk and other forms of dairy but lacked it in the form of red meat, chicken, etc. I had days where I'd eat one or two small meals and that's it. i am 5'1 and when I conceived my 10 year old I was 115 pounds max... When I conceived my 2nd I was closer to 110 pounds. So the small side. With my current youngest I was 120 pounds and going long periods of time between meals and no snacking because I worked night shift hours. I was doing cardio but no kind of weight lifting at all.

With the father of my first two he and I only saw each other when he felt like it and so I also didn't have sex often. One attempt within fertile window both times and I didn't even know anything about fertile Windows back then lol... I just know that's how little we were 'together'. Lots of chocolate and lots of sweets. My sodium and caffeine intake were also very high all 3 times.

However with my youngest my husband and I DTD when we got the positive OPK, the next morning and night, and the next morning and night after that. A boy tactic. She is still all girl so it had to be the way I ate and excersise patterns.

Gotta say I'm also not like most boy moms personality wise. I'm very submissive, meek, shy, and awful at standing up for myself. I normally let things roll off my shoulders or attempt to ignore things instead of fight them. However personality is a hard thing to change so hopefully diet and excersise can do it for most :)

[Pink Pony]

I am also on the petit side, eat small meals but I guess I are very boy friendly foods. My last boy I know was a 1 attempt, but I remember having a lot of stretchy fertile mucous that morning. I knew nothing about swaying back then.

Onto cycle 11 now and still persisting with LE as I really want a girl. Thanks for sharing.

I basically lived on cereal, flavoured milks, cereal bars for snacks, salad and lots of red meat, more red than chicken. Pasta maybe, once a week and not much potatos. Lived on tea, no sugar all day. No soda and very rarely did I have alcohol.

Hope you have a boy on board. X thanks for sharing.

[Pbn3]

Thread crashing (again) to say hope this is your cycle pink pony! I try and keep an eye out for your posts for when you post a bfp xxoo

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[jennypenny]

After 2 days of positive opks, I woke up in the middle of the night with the strongest cramps!!! Like af type cramps but maybe worse.

This lasted for about half an hour and I managed to fall back to sleep. Now its morning, the cramping has vanished.

Do you think this was some kind of bad ovulation cramps? Has this ever happened to anyone else?

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[Girlieplease]

I had this last night jennypenny and was wondering the same, I have never had this before either, I wondered if it was, on my part, psychosomatic, as I have heard people talk about ovulation pain? It passed but just in time for my children to wake repeatedly through the night, exhausted.com!

[jennypenny]

Haha that's so funny how alined our cycle is!!

This was a weird cramping pain that woke me up from my sleep, v strange. I have had mild cramp feels before when ovulating but never like that.

Oh well will see how it goes today.
Just changed my progesterone blood test to next Monday even though I will be 8dpo it will hopefully be more accurate than 5 dpo (friday) x

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[Girlieplease]

Am due to go in for my blood draw on Friday, am away for a few days after that, I will only be dpo 5 as well. What would be wrong with going at that point? Will it just show low progesterone? Which may indicate I have not o'ed when I might have? What would gp do if it looked like I had low progesterone/ not o'ed? I really have no opportunity to go in before Wednesday next week.

Ha ha, it would be cool if we both got pregnant we could be dd buddies. I never had o pain ever, or I never noticed it, I never knew it was even a thing! X

[jennypenny]

I'm sure it will be fine for 5 dpo too, I just wanted to leave it to 8dpo as I usually start spotting early and want to see if the results reflect why this is maybe happening.

I feel like I have learned so much about fertility i didnt know about while swaying. I wish I had studied this hard at uni hahaha! !

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[Pink Pony]

Thanks Pbn, it's mental torture, but I really want a girl so it keeps me going

[purple]

Am due to go in for my blood draw on Friday, am away for a few days after that, I will only be dpo 5 as well. What would be wrong with going at that point? Will it just show low progesterone? Which may indicate I have not o'ed when I might have? What would gp do if it looked like I had low progesterone/ not o'ed? I really have no opportunity to go in before Wednesday next week.

Ha ha, it would be cool if we both got pregnant we could be dd buddies. I never had o pain ever, or I never noticed it, I never knew it was even a thing! X

5dpo should be ok to know if you have ovulated. Last cycle I had a test at 3dpo and my levels were what they expect to see at 7dpo so it defiantly showed I had ovulated.

[Burakoam]

Pink pony- my mother was also on the very petite side and had two boys and then me...her 'dream' daughter ( I think 28 years later I don't fit that description anymore lol) so it is possible and I want to give you lots of hope! My mom has a boy mom personality for sure and still managed to 'sway' but ultimately she did not excersise or anything like that as she didn't know about the kind of swayimg this site knows about now.

For her I think it was more luck. She had a tubal reversal and it took over a year to get pregnant with me, she said she made my dad switch to boxers from briefs and she used shettles timing of course which we now know holds little merit.. But fairly certain the tubal reversal and unknowingly 1-2 attempts in her fertile period max is probably what got her me. I also know at the time they were very poor and so she wanted her boys to eat so se often went without eating. Not that anyone would recommend that but I think it just helps verify the LE diet is probably even what she unknowingly used, just an extreme version heh

[Burakoam]

Ovulation pain might be different for everyone but personally O pain to me isn't cramping it's like sharp twinges right where you would expect your left or right ovary to be. They can be really intense and I've cried through some of mine (but I also get cysts!) but I've never had ovulation cramping... I did have quite a bit of cramping even some that woke me up the night I think this baby implanted though!

[Girlieplease]

[QUOTE=Burakoam;849130]Ovulation pain might be different for everyone but personally O pain to me isn't cramping it's like sharp twinges right where you would expect your left or right ovary to be. They can be really intense and I've cried through some of mine (but I also get cysts!) but I've never had ovulation cramping... I did have quite a bit of cramping even some that woke me up the night I think this baby implanted though![/QUOTE

Darn my pain was nothing like that, could have been anything. Too early for implantation! X

[Burakoam]

I think some women say they cramp as the egg moves through the tube and uterus so that is also possible

[Girlieplease]

It was so short lived the pain! My mind and body are just making up symptoms now!

So when doing e3d's or e4d's, when does the 2 ww start? I take it you just expect af as normal, so technically am in 2 ww wait now but am still attempting! How are things burakoam?

[SweetLily]

Hi ladies!

Been trying to keep up but I've been so busy, by the time I read everyones posts I have no time to comment. Lol. I have not caught up on today's reading!

Had a quick question:
Don;t know if I should bother testing tomorrow now. My temp dipped this morning, which I think is super weird cause I am on 600 mg of prometrium! AF does NOT come until I have quit for 3-4 days!

I had tests and couldn't help myself, I got bfns at 10 dpo and 12 dpo so I thought it was pointless--but then I looked back at my last pregnancy (and my other daughter) and at 18 dpo I was only at 95 miu on my beta. I went onto a doubler calculator, and I would have only been around 11 miu on 12 dpo with her (and I got a SUPER faint and 2 bfns the same day about 18 dpo with my other daughter). When I tested yeaterday it was midday withonly a 1 hour hold using a FRER digi.

I was hoping to surprise DH with a bfp on his bday tmrw, but I think I'm out.

Can you please look at my chart and tell me if its worth testing again tomorrow? I will be 14 dpo then. I figured maybe I would decide based on my temp in the morning--if its back up test, and if not quit the progesterone. You think?

IDK, here it is

My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5918a4)

Thanks ladies!

[SweetLily]

Oh and I think my O date is correct, I had sharp o pains that day. I dont think I o'd 2 days later even tho the spike wasn't a spike initially at all. FF couldn't decide, I tried all 3 tuning methods, and suck with this one cause i felt it was the right one.

[SweetLily]

Hey girly, 7 dpo is the best day to do the test because if you have an lp defect it may not be apparent earlier. I've had to do it so many times, my RE insisted on 7 dpo specificly. Just throwing it out here.

XX your chart looks good, so maybe this is the month?

[Burakoam]

Lily- it is possible you ovulated a day or two later than your O pains so that could put you on the running to be a day or two behind what you think you are I would stay on the progesterone a bit longer and the temp dip could be a good sign especially since it seems to be 2 days off from what you initially thought :) so I'd wait two more days test again and then stop if it's still negative

[XXforhubby]

SweetLily- I think your chart looks good! I would test in the morning of your temp spikes back up. If it doesn't, then AF may be on the way [emoji20]. I have my FX for you!!

AFM- I'm trying to not get my hopes up! I'm just happy to see a normal looking chart while breastfeeding! I just keep reflecting on my eating habits, and while I've done fabulous sticking to the limits even on the days I may have a 4th smallish meal (only when DS3 breastfeeds more than usual), I still feel like it's not enough. I'm hoping my body is still recovering from giving birth but who knows! Nothing short of starving myself (just kidding!!), I just don't think my body can ever produce a girl [emoji20]. But we do make awfully cute and awesome boys so there is that [emoji4]!




[emoji170]DS1[emoji1379], DS2 [emoji602], & DS3 [emoji577][emoji170]
[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

[Burakoam]

i believe in you hubby, but im sure you do make cute and awesome little boy...my girls are pretty awesome too :) was so worried id have awful gender disappointment with my 3rd daughter and she is the absolute light of my life. She has been an easy happy baby from the start..and that must have been the way it was planned. -shrugs-...i am hoping you will join us in the DDC soon and this is your girl :)

[XXforhubby]

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[Faithinpink]

You must be so proud XX, Gorgeous Boys

[XXforhubby]

How are you Faith?




[emoji170]DS1[emoji1379], DS2 [emoji602], & DS3 [emoji577][emoji170]
[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
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[Burakoam]

They are beyond handsome XX!!

Here are mine :)

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When Angela was born:
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[Lissastick]

I'm on 4 dpo and have basically stopped my sway. I don't think we got lucky this month, but, that's ok because I am thinking about stopping swaying altogether and actually stopping TTC. Just feeling overwhelmed 90% of the time and I think I may be one and done.

Not really having any symptoms like I did with my pregnancy (chemical). Just headache and fatigue. A bit of mild cramping.



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[Dreamsister]

Here is a pic of my DS3 and of my DS1 and DS2:
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160802/238873fc1c829ba81ec2d1a44042ae45.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160802/124776be674037eda746d95d02db4ec5.jpg




[emoji170]DS1[emoji1379], DS2 [emoji602], & DS3 [emoji577][emoji170]
[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

Your boys looks so sweet XX.


DS1 (9) ❤️ DS2 (8) [emoji173] DS3 (5) ❤️ DW (41) [emoji1326] DH (38) [emoji144] TTC'ing pink from May 2016

[Girlieplease]

Xxforhubby the chart is looking super, is there even an implantation dip about dpo 5. I am so hoping this is your month, what a turn around that would be from leaving trying for another to bfp! Your boys are so cute!
Bukoram your girls are so cute as well, three girls, that is so amazing!

We attempted last night I had a massive temp spike this morning but ds2 was up at half 3 until after five. Exhausted does not cover it, I took temp at half six as usual but dont think it is accurate. My dd has a play date with her school friend, my mum is up to look after the boys I might fall asleep at the play place! X

[Girlieplease]

I'm on 4 dpo and have basically stopped my sway. I don't think we got lucky this month, but, that's ok because I am thinking about stopping swaying altogether and actually stopping TTC. Just feeling overwhelmed 90% of the time and I think I may be one and done.

Not really having any symptoms like I did with my pregnancy (chemical). Just headache and fatigue. A bit of mild cramping.



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Sending hugs, this trying for a baby, in particular swaying is such a difficult process. All that effort and maybe not the outcome you want anyway, your not out yet, lots of ladies have no symptoms in the 2 ww and are pregnant, I have had lord's of symptoms and not been!

[Lissastick]

My 3 year old son just told me "You're pregnant! With a girl!" 😂

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[momamia4]

Wow, lissastick!! That's awesome! I hope he's right! :) I'm sorry you're having a hard time with swaying. It's a very difficult process to say the least.

So, after having another miscarriage, I decided to find a new doctor. I have an appointment with a new RE today. I'm not sure if I should be seeing an RE or a MFM/perintologist doctor but I need to start somewhere. I was able to get in asap, which is nice. I hope it's the right kind of doctor! FX everything goes well and he can help me stay pregnant. I think the cardio is the hardest part of swaying for a girl, lol!! I definitely have to take August off but needed a place to chat. Is it ok if I hang out here?

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[Beautifulrainbow]

My 3 year old son just told me "You're pregnant! With a girl!" 😂

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My 5 year old told me I was having his little sister and he as right.xx
would be amazing.xx

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[Burakoam]

Of course Mia!

[XXforhubby]

Thanks ladies! My boys are all super sweet and thoughtful! Your girls are beautiful Burakoam! Your DD3 looks like an angel [emoji4]!

Momamia- of course you can join us! I've been thinking about you and am glad to get an update!

CD1 for me, which is typical when I'm stressed. We have more packing to do to be completely ready to move by Saturday. Hopefully I get pregnant soon while DH is committed to TTCing. We are going to do E3D this cycle and I'm kicking around using a sperm friendly lube if I need one to help things along. Other than that, I'll keep truckin' along!

GL to those still waiting to test! Hopefully we will see more BFPs this month!




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[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

[Burakoam]

XX Angela was conceived with pre seed so it can help with girls too with the right diet/lifestyle :) sad that you won't join me this month but I still think you will soon :)

[Girlieplease]

Glad to have your company momamia4, drat about cd1 xxforhubby, I will probably be joining you in September anyway! am so exhausted today as my two year old decided half three was a good time to wake and have a party, of course when he decided he was tired at 6 am he went to sleep but I had to get up with the other two at 6:30am. The man slept on until 10 am. Sometimes I question my sanity wanting another one! X

[SweetLily]

I had recrecirrebt mcs and did a detox and got a sticky bean. Fwiw.

XX, short lp--crappy.

I got a bfn this mornine with fmu and I'm 14 dpo. I just do t feel it. My temps didn't dip more, they were.1 higher so flat lines now. Not sure if I should wait 2 more days just in case or give in. I think give up.

I will not ttc august, I will spend it on all the awful boy sway supps my nature path has me on to clean my health then ttc September.

Will be watching yiu all!!!

[XXforhubby]

I'm not worried about my LP. This always happens when I'm stressed. It will be back to normal next cycle.

I can't afford to skip any months, so while I'm nervous about TTCing during the months I got pregnant with my boys, I have to trust in the LE diet and exercise to carry me through! I'll stay strict for sure!

FX for all of us that we get out BFPs soon!!




[emoji170]DS1[emoji1379], DS2 [emoji602], & DS3 [emoji577][emoji170]
[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

[Faithinpink]

How are you Faith?





[emoji170]DS1[emoji1379], DS2 [emoji602], & DS3 [emoji577][emoji170]
[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

Hi XX, iam doing ok... Still getting bloods done every 2-3days and ultrasound next week hoping they find the heartbeat FX. Hope your well


Burakoam such beautiful girls you have...
Sending you plenty of blue dust and hoping you get your boy xo

[SweetLily]

I've heard a lot of stories about kids telling you the gender snd being right.

And my weirdness, when I was pregnant last time my dog knew before I did. She kept shoving her nose in my butt and smelling me. She'd never done that before. She did it for about a month before she quit being interested in my new scent. Lol!

[jenc8060]

Hey girls! Feeling sort of bummed/confused. This is my third cycle on Clomid and we BD twice, at what I thought was O-1 (laid down for 20 mins after BD) and O-3 (J&D). However, I can't confirm if I ever even ovulated as my temps have been ALL over the place this month due to work travel and waking up 3-4 hours earlier than normal. SO annoying.

I got 3 high days, then 4 peak days?!? Normally it's only 2 of each. I had EWCM throughout all 4 peak days and my last high day which seems bizarre to me. I think I might have ovulated yesterday (but could have been today too?), which is a day (or 2) later than it should have been but who knows. I had to leave for a work trip the day after we had our last attempt so I couldn't even try for another attempt :-/ So frustrated! Last month I got pregnant (chemical) with 1 attempt at positive OPK, which was O-1 (confirmed via temps). So our attempt this month was either O-2 or O-3, which makes me SO nervous being on the Clomid. I really would have preferred O-1!

I am feeling so discouraged. I've been doing LE and daily exercise for over 7 months and I am just so over it all. With this being my third month on Clomid plus having had a chemical last month I was really hoping this would be our month. I know only time will tell of course but not feeling too positive at the moment.

I made the mistake of telling DH that I think I ovulated late and he was not happy. The first thing out of his mouth was that we should have had more attempts!! (he's been saying that for months now as he does NOT like this swaying stuff even though we had a chemical on 1 attempt last month!). If we don't get pregnant this round I am going to have to play it very careful next month around what I communicate to him about my ovulation timing as I know he will be insistent at that point that we have more than 2 attempts. UGH.

Anyway, thanks for reading my vent. I am so thankful that we have one another to talk to as I would otherwise feel so alone in this process!

[SweetLily]

Can you girls shed light on FR Over E4D when ttc girl? And would 2x a day be frequent enough?

I'm really unhappy with 1 attempt in fertile zone. I'm. Gonna be 40 in 6 weeks and we are going to try in September again. Taking this month to get myself organized!

How much less successful.is FR over E4D?

I mean, I've noticed over the years that every year something new is now the favored thing as we fine tune this whole project, does anyone have a clue about what's what re FR and E4D?

Thanks!

[XXforhubby]

They are two different things. FR has been proven to not get good results for girl as there have been quite a few opposites doing that. My guess is that either people find out they got positive opk later than expected, or DH had trouble keeping up BDing 6-7 times in a row. Plus for some people like my DH, he has a great sperm count and actually produces more if not the same during FR! This would sway blue in this case for us!

E4D is to take the place of using opks. It ensures you have one attempt in your fertile window. You start once AF leaves town and either continue all cycle long in case ovulation is delayed or until you go past the latest cycle day you ever ovulated. E4D has been getting good results, but we don't have as large of a population like we do with those that do at positive opk.




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[emoji166]One last pink sway 2016[emoji166]
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

[Pbn3]

Hey girls! Feeling sort of bummed/confused. This is my third cycle on Clomid and we BD twice, at what I thought was O-1 (laid down for 20 mins after BD) and O-3 (J&D). However, I can't confirm if I ever even ovulated as my temps have been ALL over the place this month due to work travel and waking up 3-4 hours earlier than normal. SO annoying.

I got 3 high days, then 4 peak days?!? Normally it's only 2 of each. I had EWCM throughout all 4 peak days and my last high day which seems bizarre to me. I think I might have ovulated yesterday (but could have been today too?), which is a day (or 2) later than it should have been but who knows. I had to leave for a work trip the day after we had our last attempt so I couldn't even try for another attempt :-/ So frustrated! Last month I got pregnant (chemical) with 1 attempt at positive OPK, which was O-1 (confirmed via temps). So our attempt this month was either O-2 or O-3, which makes me SO nervous being on the Clomid. I really would have preferred O-1!

I am feeling so discouraged. I've been doing LE and daily exercise for over 7 months and I am just so over it all. With this being my third month on Clomid plus having had a chemical last month I was really hoping this would be our month. I know only time will tell of course but not feeling too positive at the moment.

I made the mistake of telling DH that I think I ovulated late and he was not happy. The first thing out of his mouth was that we should have had more attempts!! (he's been saying that for months now as he does NOT like this swaying stuff even though we had a chemical on 1 attempt last month!). If we don't get pregnant this round I am going to have to play it very careful next month around what I communicate to him about my ovulation timing as I know he will be insistent at that point that we have more than 2 attempts. UGH.

Anyway, thanks for reading my vent. I am so thankful that we have one another to talk to as I would otherwise feel so alone in this process!
Hi jenc8080 hats off to you for doing both the diet and exercise this long. I am in awe!! I understand how bummed you must be feeling but IF you do have o-2 attempt that's apparently better odds than even an o-1. Because your temps cant confirm o has occured you'll be abit the dark this cycle but definately not out even if its o-3 attempt! Maybe start a new thread if this cycle is a bfn and ask Atomic what she would recommend for timing if you've been at it this long. But at the end of the day it has to be what you're comfortable with :) fx you wont need to and you get a bfp this cycle!

Hey girls! Feeling sort of bummed/confused. This is my third cycle on Clomid and we BD twice, at what I thought was O-1 (laid down for 20 mins after BD) and O-3 (J&D). However, I can't confirm if I ever even ovulated as my temps have been ALL over the place this month due to work travel and waking up 3-4 hours earlier than normal. SO annoying.

I got 3 high days, then 4 peak days?!? Normally it's only 2 of each. I had EWCM throughout all 4 peak days and my last high day which seems bizarre to me. I think I might have ovulated yesterday (but could have been today too?), which is a day (or 2) later than it should have been but who knows. I had to leave for a work trip the day after we had our last attempt so I couldn't even try for another attempt :-/ So frustrated! Last month I got pregnant (chemical) with 1 attempt at positive OPK, which was O-1 (confirmed via temps). So our attempt this month was either O-2 or O-3, which makes me SO nervous being on the Clomid. I really would have preferred O-1!

I am feeling so discouraged. I've been doing LE and daily exercise for over 7 months and I am just so over it all. With this being my third month on Clomid plus having had a chemical last month I was really hoping this would be our month. I know only time will tell of course but not feeling too positive at the moment.

I made the mistake of telling DH that I think I ovulated late and he was not happy. The first thing out of his mouth was that we should have had more attempts!! (he's been saying that for months now as he does NOT like this swaying stuff even though we had a chemical on 1 attempt last month!). If we don't get pregnant this round I am going to have to play it very careful next month around what I communicate to him about my ovulation timing as I know he will be insistent at that point that we have more than 2 attempts. UGH.

Anyway, thanks for reading my vent. I am so thankful that we have one another to talk to as I would otherwise feel so alone in this process!


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[baby2016baby]

just to say I'm still stalking this thread wishing and hoping you all get you bfp's and join us on the march/april/may board! routing for you all xxxxx

[Girlieplease]

Hey girls! Feeling sort of bummed/confused. This is my third cycle on Clomid and we BD twice, at what I thought was O-1 (laid down for 20 mins after BD) and O-3 (J&D). However, I can't confirm if I ever even ovulated as my temps have been ALL over the place this month due to work travel and waking up 3-4 hours earlier than normal. SO annoying.

I got 3 high days, then 4 peak days?!? Normally it's only 2 of each. I had EWCM throughout all 4 peak days and my last high day which seems bizarre to me. I think I might have ovulated yesterday (but could have been today too?), which is a day (or 2) later than it should have been but who knows. I had to leave for a work trip the day after we had our last attempt so I couldn't even try for another attempt :-/ So frustrated! Last month I got pregnant (chemical) with 1 attempt at positive OPK, which was O-1 (confirmed via temps). So our attempt this month was either O-2 or O-3, which makes me SO nervous being on the Clomid. I really would have preferred O-1!

I am feeling so discouraged. I've been doing LE and daily exercise for over 7 months and I am just so over it all. With this being my third month on Clomid plus having had a chemical last month I was really hoping this would be our month. I know only time will tell of course but not feeling too positive at the moment.

I made the mistake of telling DH that I think I ovulated late and he was not happy. The first thing out of his mouth was that we should have had more attempts!! (he's been saying that for months now as he does NOT like this swaying stuff even though we had a chemical on 1 attempt last month!). If we don't get pregnant this round I am going to have to play it very careful next month around what I communicate to him about my ovulation timing as I know he will be insistent at that point that we have more than 2 attempts. UGH.

Anyway, thanks for reading my vent. I am so thankful that we have one another to talk to as I would otherwise feel so alone in this process!

7 months that is amazing, welldone! Xxforhubby had excellent advise. I just wanted to add that my dh sounds very similar to yours. We have never had a problem conceiving and he thinks we are not having enough sex. I have to be careful about been too upset when af arrives as I worry he is going to pull the plug on attempting at all. So you are not alone, but maybe if you have been on the diet so long and not got pregnant with a sticky bean a separate thread to ask atomic advise might be useful. I think e3d has been getting good results as well so if I had been trying as long as you I would consider adding attempts. If your doing anything like shallow release, tight underwear for dh, j and d or any of those factors that limit conception I would drop those before adding attempts.good luck and keep us posted! X

[Girlieplease]

just to say I'm still stalking this thread wishing and hoping you all get you bfp's and join us on the march/april/may board! routing for you all xxxxx

Thanks, good to have as much support as possible. Am still attempting e3d's even though am pretty sure I ovulated already. Not overly hopeful this month but not overly concerned as baby would have same dd as ds1. How is pregnancy going with you? X

[SweetLily]

Eek! I quit progesterone yesterday due to lack of bfp and my temp climbed again today?!

Can someone go back and look at my chart pls and tell me if I should start back up for a couple of days until test again?! I can't post a link from my phone so you'd need to go back a couple of days to my prebio is post about this.

Thanks!

[SweetLily]

And even more frustrating, I decided to do my last test in case--a frer digital and IT DIDN'T WORK!!!! I live in a small mountain town. They're $27 here and I've done 4 tests already!

So...anomaly? Wait another day and see if af comes...which it should since I quit 600 mg of progesterone cold turkey? Or do I go to the dr for a beta? I just don't know!

[SweetLily]

Then the test changed to yes with a clock. I cracked it open, one line only and it was half there and half not (like top of line pink bottom nothing).

Should I take progesterone in case and go see the dr?

[purple]

Can you get a normal test like a FRER? They are probably better for early testing compared to digitals. I would take the progesterone and get a blood test just incase. Good luck!

[baby2016baby]

its going ok girlie thanks for asking, no symptoms, but feel weird, have had issues with my tests not darkening and my digi showing 1-2 when it should have been 2/3 or even 3+ but I'm trying not to stress to much. what will be will be....

Sorry I don't know nothing about stopping progesterone, only thing I know is atomic suggests taking a test before starting the next dos of clomid or injections as a few people have been caught out xxx

[momamia4]

I agree with purple. Take the progesterone and get a blood test. That's the only way to know for sure.

AFM, since I now know that only my right tube is open, I'm going to try Femara with a trigger shot. I almost never ovulate on the right. It's probably been at least 6 months since I last ovulated on that side, other than my last cycle/miscarriage. If the Femara doesn't work after a few cycles, I'll switch to injectables. I don't want to wait around any longer. I'm on my 16th cycle ttc and it's getting really hard emotionally. Plus, I'm not getting any younger. I really hope this new doctor can figure out how to keep me pregnant. For some reason he makes me feel a lot more positive about the whole thing, which I really appreciate. :)

[tfahn]

Eek! I quit progesterone yesterday due to lack of bfp and my temp climbed again today?!

Can someone go back and look at my chart pls and tell me if I should start back up for a couple of days until test again?! I can't post a link from my phone so you'd need to go back a couple of days to my prebio is post about this.

Thanks!

Fingers crossed for you SweetLily.
Here is my experience with taking progesterone and then stopping: The last 3 cycles when I stopped taking the progesterone supplements after a BFN on my blood work, I would get a temp rise the next day after stopping and then it would drop the following day and then I would get AF. I was taking 200mg x 3 times per day. Hopefully you have a better outcome :)

[tfahn]

Currently CD10 today for me, took 7.5mg of Femara days 3-7 and 75units of Gonal-F on days 8-9. I had my ultrasound this morning, I have one follicle on the right side and it is measuring 22mm already. Blood work was taken and I am waiting for the results to see if I can take my trigger shot tonight.

I talked to the RE about my theory that when I ovulate on the left I get BFN's and when I ovulate on the right is when I can atleast get pregnant, usually chemical but hopefully one of these times it sticks. She said that is completely possible and said that a high percentage/most women get pregnant from the right ovary, she doesn't now why but I guess that is usually the more dominate side. When I had HSG done in December my left tube was sticking straight up, doesn't mean it always stays that way but if it does I am sure there is no way an egg can fight gravity enough to get where it needs to go.

[SweetLily]

its going ok girlie thanks for asking, no symptoms, but feel weird, have had issues with my tests not darkening and my digi showing 1-2 when it should have been 2/3 or even 3+ but I'm trying not to stress to much. what will be will be....

Sorry I don't know nothing about stopping progesterone, only thing I know is atomic suggests taking a test before starting the next dos of clomid or injections as a few people have been caught out xxx

My numbers rose really slow with my last pregnancy and she was fine until I got an amnio infection. My boys make my numbers quadruple but girls barely double for me. Maybe like that for you? Why not get the dr to do some betas for you to ease your mind?

[SweetLily]

Fingers crossed for you SweetLily.
Here is my experience with taking progesterone and then stopping: The last 3 cycles when I stopped taking the progesterone supplements after a BFN on my blood work, I would get a temp rise the next day after stopping and then it would drop the following day and then I would get AF. I was taking 200mg x 3 times per day. Hopefully you have a better outcome :)

Well thas good to know. Usually when I quit progesterone I get af the next day. I too am on 200 mg 3x a day. How does that make you feel? I can't rely on anything when I'm on it. It gives me every symptom in the book!

[SweetLily]

Thanks for all the replies. I did take 300 mg of progesterone and will try to get into a dr today for a beta.

This is interesting about the right ovary. Many of my pregnancies have been from the right...m

[tfahn]

Well thas good to know. Usually when I quit progesterone I get af the next day. I too am on 200 mg 3x a day. How does that make you feel? I can't rely on anything when I'm on it. It gives me every symptom in the book!

When I'm taking the progesterone sometimes I get a little tired after taking a dose and have some breast tenderness on it, overall not too bad.

[SweetLily]

Lucky you! I get every symptom in the book!

I'm feeling a bit freaked out now.

This morning's defective digi (and may I say, that's the SECOND FRER digi in a row to be defective) actually has 2 lines. I thought I saw a line when I did it but it was only on half the stick so I thought I had line eyes. Now that it's dry you can really see it. But if my dip is an implantation dip, baby didn't implant until 13 dpo probably and that's bad. I have read lots about that over the years. Its all out of my hands anyway, my last pregnancy taught me that. I did go for a beta this morning, so we will see if this is a BAD evap or if it actually is a bfp. I will post the pictures for reference on evaps! I only have the digis because our small town drug store sells very few tests at all, and if I want FRER I have to buy the test and confirm box that has one of each. I inverted one picture and left the other one normal. The line is only really visible on half the test line! I guess why it was defective! I'm putting up the invert pic first cause its easier to see where you are looking. The line is much more visible IRL. IDK, will wait for the drs report tomorrow.

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If that is ACTUALLY a bfp, do you think maybe I O'd a couple of days later, even though my cm dried and my cervix went low and firm?

[SweetLily]

Oh and one more thing. What happened to Maiden? I missed a few months when I was super sick after my loss and she's vanished. Did she get her bfp and move on?

[tfahn]

Not sure on the tests SweetLily, I'm not familiar with how the digital ones work so not sure if you can trust the lines or not. I really hope you have some HCG in your blood, that would be so great. I am 39 as well and had 2 chemicals and 1 chemical/MC since December so I think it is way past time we get are sticky babies. :)

As far as Maiden, she said she wanted to take a break from the forums for a while which I totally get, it gets hard after TTC for so long. I have seen her chart every once in a while so the only thing I know is it looks like she is still TTC, hopefully all of us finally get our BFPs!

[SweetLily]

Thanks. Yeah, I really have no idea how the digis work. I asked the lady on the phone at FRER and she said not to trust it. I also googled it and it looks like they get 2 lines like all the other tests (from some of the pics i saw) but who knows. It's also a DRY test, not reliable AT ALL. I thought I'd put it up there for reference for anyone in the future. I think a lot of us are POASaholics and taking a digi apart in a moment of panic when it gives you a ? instead of an answer is something many of us might do ROFL!!!! I swear I almost died right there. I'm like, I wasted my FMU on THIS?!

Glad my dr ordered a beta. He did a very good job at not looking horrified when he asked if we were TTC again. Hes the head of the hospital in our town, and had to be intimately involved in my loss a few months back, all the problems leading up to and my complaint over how it happened to the provincial health board. He isn't my GP but they share the clinic and its who I could see today. I really like him. He did a great job at keeping a straight face, he was probably thinking dear heavens, here we go again...

My chart and temps are very iffy anyway this month. I started a small job this month and have to get up at 5 am for it 3 days a week for a couple of hours, and I usually temp at 9:30. I started 2 weeks ago right around O no less, so I adjusted my temps all month. I went back on FF and put in all my temps with the 5 hour time spread as they were and it gave me dotted lines for CD 21. I guess its possible. Maybe I didnt O when I had my o pains? I have NO IDEA.

Even if/when I do get a bfp, I'm not going to get excited or even tell ppl until 28 weeks. I'm pretty scarred by my loss. It was so traumatic and scary, and the drs did nothing to help at all. I don't think I will even go for prenatal appointments except the 8 week US to see if there's a heart beat, as the drs have proven how useless they are in this entire journey. I know ppl say prenatal appts are so important, but I've had 5 babies and my loss proved they can't do anything to help you stay pregnant. It's a very jaded attitude, but I refuse to be running in and out of the ER like last time (cause we have no after hours or walk in clinics here, if you need to be seen outside of office hours OR if they're just too busy to fit you in, they send you to the hospital!!!!)

Enough of a rant, Thanks for the update on maiden. I avoided these boards for a long time too. All the chemicals were getting to me. And then I start obsessing...lol...

I'm really sorry for your chemicals, it really hurts when it happens over and over.

I agree, I hope there's lots of bfps this month :) If mine isn't a bfp, I'm waiting til september to ttc. My DH is going to be denied entry until O has been confirmed absolutely, as I want to do a detox for a month and cant do it if TTC. He's going to LOVE that!:rofl:

[baby2016baby]

thanks sweetlily but I'm hoping your wrong, I really don't want another girl so I'm hoping that the slow rise is not related to a girly bean!! I had very noticeable tests early with my daughter so hoping this slow rise might be a good thing for me. Fingers crossed for you, I don't know about the digi tests but if they work in same way I see two lines!!! xxx

[Burakoam]

Lily - I don't know that that's a positive.. I haven't ever used a FRER digital but this is what a clear blue digital looks like positive when it's cracked open32501

[SweetLily]

thanks sweetlily but I'm hoping your wrong, I really don't want another girl so I'm hoping that the slow rise is not related to a girly bean!! I had very noticeable tests early with my daughter so hoping this slow rise might be a good thing for me. Fingers crossed for you, I don't know about the digi tests but if they work in same way I see two lines!!! xxx

I just meant everyone is different and for ME that means girl --it's different from my norm. For you it coukd well mean boy! Fx!!!

[SweetLily]

Lily - I don't know that that's a positive.. I haven't ever used a FRER digital but this is what a clear blue digital looks like positive when it's cracked open32501

Well I'm not sure it's a positive either...it's DRY! BUT I did look at frer digis and that's what they look like cracked open. The lines are much further apart than a regular frer. I hate CBs personally, can't stand blue dye but thats just Mr. I guess we will see. I'm going to call the dr at 4. If it's negative they will have the result back. If it's positive thry have to send it out for the quantity and that will take til tmrw.

Thanks for the input hun :)

[Burakoam]

My bad lily I should have googled the FRER digital before responding. I'm also emotional and blind at the moment so I'm probably going off the boards for a while lol. Hope you hear the results you want :)

[Burakoam]

has anyone in this forum had low progesterone during a pregnancy, did NOT use suppositories and still ended up with a healthy happy baby?

I cannot find stories of hope anywhere. im losing all of mine.

[XXforhubby]

I can only guess that I did with my DS2. I couldn't get a positive pregnancy test until 21DPO, and even then it was very faint. The doctor took blood work on a Friday, I was 24DPO then, and it was 42 I think. I remember my progesterone being low but was told it was in proportion with my HCG level. On Monday, my HCG level was 112. I was worried the whole time because we only DTD on CD8, CD10, and CD11. I remember worrying so much because of such late implantation. He's a very healthy boy now!

I'm hoping and praying that this all works out! The stress of early pregnancy is so hard. Huge hugs!!




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[Girlieplease]

Bukoram I hope you get answers soon, it seems that some ladies have been in a similar position and had healthy babies. You must be out of your mind with worry,really hoping this works out for you!

Think am out this month my temperatures are dropping and I feel very much like I do before af, was expecting it as our timing was off this month. Only thing I don't get is I only ovulated on Sunday, ( I think) so am only really dpo4, really hoping af stays away until at least dpo 9 as if it comes soon that will be a really crap lp! Hello September, when I started trying in June I never expected I would still be jumping on the 2 ww bus in September, good luck everyone else who is waiting x

[jennypenny]

Bukoram I hope you get answers soon, it seems that some ladies have been in a similar position and had healthy babies. You must be out of your mind with worry,really hoping this works out for you!

Think am out this month my temperatures are dropping and I feel very much like I do before af, was expecting it as our timing was off this month. Only thing I don't get is I only ovulated on Sunday, ( I think) so am only really dpo4, really hoping af stays away until at least dpo 9 as if it comes soon that will be a really crap lp! Hello September, when I started trying in June I never expected I would still be jumping on the 2 ww bus in September, good luck everyone else who is waiting x
Is it tomorrow that you get your blood test?
You are in the uk too aren't you? Do you know when you get the results back?

Any blood test I've ever had done at the gp has always taken a week or so to come back with results. I wonder how long testing progesterone levels take?

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[Girlieplease]

Yes going for blood test tomorrow morning but only be 5 dpo, will ask when am at the gp's when will I expect the results. Am pretty sure I ovulated this month, I would have been more interesting in getting the draw taken on the months when I got no high on the clear blue monitor, when o was less certain. In June and July I failed to conceive with pretty much spot on timing, so wondered if maybe I did not o, this month I think I o'ed but my timing was not great. How you feeling about your chances this month? X

[jennypenny]

Yes going for blood test tomorrow morning but only be 5 dpo, will ask when am at the gp's when will I expect the results. Am pretty sure I ovulated this month, I would have been more interesting in getting the draw taken on the months when I got no high on the clear blue monitor, when o was less certain. In June and July I failed to conceive with pretty much spot on timing, so wondered if maybe I did not o, this month I think I o'ed but my timing was not great. How you feeling about your chances this month? X
Cool let me know what they say result wise:)
I really don't know anymore! I feel like I have had pretty good timing this month, but have had at least 3 other months similar, all ending in bfn!
Who knows!! Best outcome would be getting blood taken on Monday and them coming back to me to say it showed a bfp! Wishful thinking.

It will be interesting whatever the test shows up xxx

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[Pretty]

Hi ladies! I'm freaking out and could really use some help. I had a bfp today (I'll try to post a pic) at 6dpo. I know I couldn't have ovulated earlier because I had an ultrasound (monitored due to femara). I am worried it's too early, and the potential for genetic anomalies. Any thoughts? TIA

[Burakoam]

6 is the very first day considered normal to implant. You just had a very eager baby :) congrats!!

[SweetLily]

Pretty that's great, congrats! !! The earlier they implant the less risk of mc. I just read up on it a couple of days ago.

I am out, my beta was bfn and af is starting since I ditched the progesterone. Spending this month on a detox and will be back to ttc September.

Gl to everyone!!!!

[Pretty]

Thank you for the encouragement... I admit, my eyes keep filling with tears. I am just so scared (I'm sure hormones aren't helping either) I had to mess with the bfp pic because I just couldn't get the lighting right. Here is my chart too. I had my ultrasound on Thursday afternoon (July 28th).3251932520

[Burakoam]

Deep breathes and let your doctor know because they will monitor you even still but no reason to think this pregnancy isn't perfectly normal at this point. That is a really light line I'm going to say with luck baby implanted yesterday at the earliest and it's possible you caught it after it implanted this morning... Another poster made a good point.. Any chance it's twins? You were monitored so was there more than one ripe egg? That would explain how baby/babies could have implanted today and you could already be seeing hcg

[Pretty]

Thank you so much, I am definitely starting to feel better! I have thought of twins (partly due to the Femara, partly because DH would be THRILLED (he likes how efficient they are LOL) and partly because of the OWT regarding the V eye veins (I definitely have two under my left eye)) but I only had one dominant follie on my left ovary. I am hoping I ovulated late Thursday night/early Friday morning and just happened to catch it today... I was just totally blindsided by the faint line.

[DesiG]

Hello everyone just wondering what supplements I have to stop while on the 2ww? Here is what I am taking. One a day womens vitamin, fish oil, wheat grass, and Folic acid, I know I take the folic acid up until 12 weeks of pregnancy, and also when do I stop the Mucinex? Thanks

[Burakoam]

Mucinex can be stopped 2-3 DPO safely. If you are sure you ovulated then it's not doing much at that point. 3 is probably better. I think wheatgrass you are supposed to stop in the 2ww there's inconclusive results of how it affects pregnancy if I remember correctly so it's safer to drop it until you are sure you have no BFP

If you get a BFP they want you to switch from fish oil to DHA and the women's to a prenatal of your choice

[Girlieplease]

Is it tomorrow that you get your blood test?
You are in the uk too aren't you? Do you know when you get the results back?

Any blood test I've ever had done at the gp has always taken a week or so to come back with results. I wonder how long testing progesterone levels take?

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Got bloods taken today, she said results in 4 working days.

Am away for a few days, not sure if I will have network coverage. Good luck everyone still waiting. Am hoping af stays away until Tuesday, anything less would be lp of leg than 9 days x

[DesiG]

Mucinex can be stopped 2-3 DPO safely. If you are sure you ovulated then it's not doing much at that point. 3 is probably better. I think wheatgrass you are supposed to stop in the 2ww there's inconclusive results of how it affects pregnancy if I remember correctly so it's safer to drop it until you are sure you have no BFP

If you get a BFP they want you to switch from fish oil to DHA and the women's to a prenatal of your choice

Thank you

[Lissastick]

I'm on 8 DPO today and I have been testing since 5 DPO (Silly, I know). All negative tests. I am still thinking this cycle was a bust. AF is due next Thursday, I think.
My son's 3rd birthday is on Sunday.

I just really want to give my son a sibling. I was feeling like I wanted to give up on a 2nd child altogether, but, I think I'm just giving up swaying for a girl. I know that I will get another little dude, and I am actually now MORE than ok with that! I've always kind of saw myself as a boy mom anyway. It's easy, natural and just makes sense for me. Even though I'm super girly! Haha. But, I have a big brother and he made me like fart jokes and nasty things. So, I would actually love another little boy.

If my suspicions are correct and this cycle is a bust (even if I am pregnant, I am pretty sure it will be a boy!), next cycle I am just eating how I feel (which is not L.E. in the sense that I snack, often) and I am going to do 2 or three attempts at BDing because I just want to be pregnant already. I don't want to have the baby in the dead of summer again because I live in a desert climate and that's just a big NO. I would have rather had the baby in April, but next try the baby will be due in May. Still not too hot that time of year. I won't be pregnant all through the summer again like I was with my DS.

Good luck to everyone waiting for their BFPs and to everyone who is strong enough to sway! Haha!

[purple]

It's still early lisa so don't give up this month yet :) Having two boys is pretty special as they have such a great bond I don't see as much with 'pigeon pairs'. If you just want to give your son a sibling then add more attempts. You still could get a girl but it sounds like you are at peace with a boy too.

[GirlieCat]

I'm on 8 DPO today and I have been testing since 5 DPO (Silly, I know). All negative tests. I am still thinking this cycle was a bust. AF is due next Thursday, I think.
My son's 3rd birthday is on Sunday.

I just really want to give my son a sibling. I was feeling like I wanted to give up on a 2nd child altogether, but, I think I'm just giving up swaying for a girl. I know that I will get another little dude, and I am actually now MORE than ok with that! I've always kind of saw myself as a boy mom anyway. It's easy, natural and just makes sense for me. Even though I'm super girly! Haha. But, I have a big brother and he made me like fart jokes and nasty things. So, I would actually love another little boy.

If my suspicions are correct and this cycle is a bust (even if I am pregnant, I am pretty sure it will be a boy!), next cycle I am just eating how I feel (which is not L.E. in the sense that I snack, often) and I am going to do 2 or three attempts at BDing because I just want to be pregnant already. I don't want to have the baby in the dead of summer again because I live in a desert climate and that's just a big NO. I would have rather had the baby in April, but next try the baby will be due in May. Still not too hot that time of year. I won't be pregnant all through the summer again like I was with my DS.

Good luck to everyone waiting for their BFPs and to everyone who is strong enough to sway! Haha!

Hi Lissa, sounds like we are on a similar cycle. Today is 9 DPO for me and I could help but test this morning and got a negative. If no prego then I should start AF Tue-Thur (my cycle has been changing because of metformin).

I am okay on the diet. It actually works for me not snacking as long as I don't forget.

I really want to try clomid or Femara next cycle but my doc won't give it easy. She is just the nurse practitioner, not actual OB so she is pretty strict. I have PCOS and she gave Metformin easy but no go on the clomid (I am very upset because I don't want to start all over at a new doc or fork out the big bucks for an endo).

I am hoping for an April or May baby too!


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[DesiG]

Hey everyone 3 dpo here, just waiting to see what's going to happen I am praying I get my BPF this time, and if I do I hope there is a little strong baby boy growing in there. Not going to test until 12 dpo, I hope :) good luck everyone!;)

[Lissastick]

9 DPO today got an EXTREMELY faint positive. I'm trying my hardest not to get excited because of my chemical pregnancy in June. It's so hard not to get excited.

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[momamia4]

Yay, lissastick! I hope it's a sticky baby for you! :)

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[tfahn]

Fingers crossed for you lissastick, hopefully the tests get darker tomorrow. Good luck

[Burakoam]

lissa!!!!! AHHH!!! congratulations!!!! :) i'll get excited FOR you! haha. hoping this is your sticky baby sister/brother for your son :)

[Lissastick]

lissa!!!!! AHHH!!! congratulations!!!! :) i'll get excited FOR you! haha. hoping this is your sticky baby sister/brother for your son :)
Thanks. I'm not even 100% sure that a second line was there...
I keep looking at it and it seems to disappear! I just picked it up to look at it again and I started crying because I couldn't really see it anymore 😭

But, I've been crying over everything lately! Lol

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[GirlieCat]

Sending positive vibes Lissa. Hoping tomorrow shows a darker and more confident line.


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[Burakoam]

My first line was like that. Take a digital tomorrow. I know clear blue weeks estimator will pick uoy up of the line is there on FRER.. idk about the other digitals.

[Girlieplease]

Lissastick am keeping everything crossed for you, maybe feeling super emotional is a good sign? Could indicate pregnancy hormones?
As for me CD7, I think am out but hoping af stays away until at least Tuesday cd9. I have no symptoms but no symptoms of anything, no real symptoms of af either, iyswim? The past two months at this stage I was definitely having very clear symptoms that was starting to get me excited about the possibility. My temps are a bit all over the place. I won't test until next Sunday and af is due long before that! Gl everyone else who is waiting and keep us posted Lissastick x

[purple]

Fx the line gets darker lisa!

[Burakoam]

i was super emotional leading up to this BFP! it CAN be a really good sign :)

[Lissastick]

Tested again this morning. Negative. Stark negative. I suppose it was negative yesterday but I was wanting to see a line so bad that I imagined one there.
I think I'm crying all the time because I'm depressed.

[momamia4]

I'm sorry lissa! That's so unfair. Ttc is so stressful. :bighug:

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[Girlieplease]

Sorry Lissastick!

My af arrived, what the heck? Am only about 7 dpo? Anyone have any ideas? Am going to post a separate page to ask atomic? I don't think it is possible to get pregnant with such a short lp? Am not as upset about af arriving, I expected it asy timing was not great but it's the short lp and what that means for future attempts. When my lp was 9 days atomic recommended adding 4 - 6 eggs per week a portion of red meat per week and daily portion of diary, I have done this. Any advice I really feel very down! I had a progesterone draw done on Friday at day 21! Thanks and good luck to everyone waiting! X

[Burakoam]

I suspect girlie you will hear from the blood work that your progesterone is low. sometimes women can fix it with diet as atomic suggested the eggs, meat, etc...but sometimes you will need progesterone to lengthen your LP in order for a potential pregnancy to progress as it needs to during that time. I suspect its one of two things in your case..1) very weak or no ovulation or 2) low thyroid. sometimes stress can cause it however you were expecting a short LP and have had it in the past and so i think its significantly less likely its stress induced.

lissa i am so so sorry. you were so happy and positive the other night..i hate to see that change for you. With my daughter i did not get a positive until 12 DPO and also had stark white negatives at 9 and 10 DPO with her..so you arent out yet and i have hope you may see a positive yet but if not we will all be here for you. hang in there..

[Girlieplease]

I have had an underactive thyroid for about five years. I was diagnosed about a week before I found out I was pregnant with ds1, so I conceived him with undiagnosed thyroid problem. I June I got my blood taken to check my functioning ahead of attempt and it was over active, so am now on reduced medication. Hope your right bukoram and I get some answers ad I feel I am bussing my balls swaying and it is just not happening for some reason. I agree I think it is less to do with stress as I was very excited this month to get an egg symbol and plus I was off work so stress was significantly reduced. What would cause me to have low progesterone? Or not to ovulate? Is it just age related? I just turned 36, I don't think it is that old! My gp is very unhelpful and I don't think he will do much even if the blood work shows anything! Thanks for responding. I conceived my three babies so easily, there has to be an explanation x o

[Girlieplease]

Busting my balls not bussing, whatever bussing is! Lol x

[Burakoam]

Girlie I wish I knew because then my progesterone wouldn't be so low right now either... I can tell you that a very weak ovulation can cause low progesterone. But I have to wonder... If your progesterone comes back low ask the doctor if your medicine can cause it that you are in for your thyroid

[jennypenny]

Sorry to hear af has arrived girlie! That sucks!

I'm 8dpo and feel bit crampy (dread going to the bathroom as feel af could be imminent )

Hopefully your blood test will show some helpful results. I'm getting blood test taken later today.
When do u get results back? xxx

J
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[Inforthree]

Sorry about the fake-out Lissa, it's such an emotional process!

Boo on AF, girlie, hope you get some answers. I feel like in in the same boat with low progesterone. My LPs have been so short too. It sucks. I've been drinking pep tea this cycle, we'll see if that helps.

Hope AF stays away, Jenny.

I got my +opk today, CD 17, and we snuck in our attempt before work. Before we've been waiting until the night after getting the +opk in the morning so I wanted to get it in earlier. The wait is on for me now. Fingers crossed.


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[momamia4]

I'm sorry girlie! Maybe you could take a vitamin b complex? I seem to remember that a vitamin b6 deficiency can make it worse. Also, I just recently read a study that said that Melatonin, the drug your body releases for sleep, is supposed to help. Maybe you should start taking a low dose (1mg) of Melatonin at night to help? You can also increase healthy fats like avocado, nuts and seeds, etc. That is supposed to help too. I found that being on LE for too long shortened my lp down to 10 days. As soon as I started eating some healthy fats again, my lp went right back to 14 days.

[tfahn]

Sorry Lissastick, hopefully something shows up in the next few days.

[GirlieCat]

13 DPO and got another BFN this morning followed by the arrival of AF hours later. I am not sure why, but I really thought this was going to be the month I got a positive.

I am confused at what step to take next. This was cycle number 5 and I am 35yr old so I know they say don't try for too long before taking the next step at older ages. I have PCOS but not insulin resistance, mainly just hormone imbalances. I have been on Metformin for over 2 months and it has helped my cycle so I think that means it is helping my hormones too (have not done more blood work since on met). My cycles got longer and longer after getting off BC in January (was up to 42 days) and now on the met they are getting shorter (37 last time and 34 this cycle). My PMS has gotten way better too which doc said would happen if my hormones balanced out. I am very excited to even be having a somewhat regular and tractable cycle because that wasn't the case in my younger years.

I have gotten +OPK the last three cycles and my luteal phase is always 13-14 days. I don't particular like my current doc. I have just been going to my normal OBGYN office, but the lady I see is the nurse practitioner and she said she thinks I am ovulating and was happy to hear I got +OPKs, but that doesn't mean I for sure actually ovulated does it?

One thing that I find strange that doc just brushed off as no big deal is that AF is not even 48 hours long ever since off BC. Actual flow can be as little as 12 hours with very light spotting the rest. Also I get very bad mid cycle (ovulation) cramping...for days and days. That is how I know it is time to test and ever single time I have started cramping mid cycle is when I get my +OPK.

I should mention, I am swaying pink. On LE diet, went vegetarian, 1000mg of Metformin, 1600 of folic acid, one attempt at +OPK, starting to exercise.

What should my next step be? Should I transfer to an endo? Ask for more blood work? Other tests? Other meds? Increase the Met? I was trying to avoid expensive options. I have already spent more than I expected at the norm doc and tests because my insurance sucks. DH and I already agreed we would not go as far as IVF.

Thanks.

[Girlieplease]

Girls do you think I should give up on swaying? Just looking for opinions? I have gp appt on Thursday when hopefully multiple blood work will be back so I can discuss options. My gp is hard to get motivated to do or act on anything, so I don't hold out much hope he will do much. I sort of feel what is the point in me knocking my pan in with diet and exercise if I have zero chance of getting pregnant anyway? Am a really positive person and usually can find some positive spin to keep me motivated to achieve what ever goal am aiming for but a 7 day lp is impossible to spin! Any advice lovely ladies?
Lissastick I hope af stays away, fingers crossed for you, trying to sway has been such a harder process than I ever imagined.
Jennypenny that is sounding positive, good luck.

Good luck to everyone else in the 2 ww, x

[momamia4]

GirlieCat, I would go to a Reproductive Endocrinologist. They will be able to help you the most. I'm very sorry you did not get your bfp this cycle. I know how frustrating that is. :hugs:

Girlieplease, I would not give up but make changes. Add in the eggs and full fat dairy plus take the vitamin b6 3 times a week. I know atomic says that going vegetarian is the best for swaying girl but my mom and 2 sisters have a bunch of girls and they still eat chicken and eggs. They eat red meat maybe once a week. So, I have still been eating chicken and eggs. I used to eat red meat every single day, so I consider it a huge difference to my diet. I would also go couch potato. I know the exercise sways stronger but too much exercise really effects your fertility after awhile. Just my two cents. I hope you can find some motivation to keep going. My fingers are crossed for you!! :)

AFM, I just went and had some blood drawn for a karyotyping test and AMH. I'll get the results in a few weeks. I'm really nervous for the results but I also hope it sheds some light on my miscarriages.

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[Burakoam]

I think you both need an RE. Girlie, I've been telling you this almost two months now lol.. You can still get your girl with more medical help you don't have to stop swaying. If you are truly to the point of not caring wether it's a boy or girl so log as you don't need to seek out clomid etc then by all means stop your sway and see if you can conceive... I will tell you this though. I got pregnant relatively easy with my first two just as you say you fell pregnant easy too.. For me it was a case of secondary infertility though so even if you stop your sway you could still need help getting pregnant again. Give it a few months off the sway of you want and see if that helps and if not then see a doctor, or just see a doc now while you are still swaying and can still have a good shot at your daughter

[Foreign Chick]

Hello everyone ;-)

I am currently 3dpo and felt the need join this forum.
This is my 2nd ( not consecutive) cycle TTC. I already have 3 dd's and am hoping for a ds this time. In my 1st attempt I swayed "hard": diet, pH, minerals, supplements, hormones, ions and timing!
This time around I'm fully relying on the moon sign :-p and a little tweak in timing & DH abstinence (4days)
Hope August turns out to be a (literally) positive month for all of us FX
Good luck everyone :luck:

xx

[Girlieplease]

Momamia I still have chicken, one portion of red meat per week and 4 -6 eggs per week. Atomic recommended it when my lp was 9 days. I will look into the b6 vitamin but given I am adding all the above I think am getting further away from pink. But I suppose if you cannot get pregnant you have no shot at your gender at all.

Bukoram I don't know what an Re is? Some sort of reproduction consultant? Am in the UK, we only have general practitioner and then they refer you for further tests with infertility clinic if you have not conceived within a year. But my gp said that although they would do further tests but as I have children already I would not be entitled to Ivf. I don't want Ivf anyway. I am not desperate for a fourth and if someone told me I would be guaranteed another boy I would not go for it. I never knew about swaying and only found out about it relatively recently, my dd really wants a sister and thought it was worth a shot, I felt knowing that I can increase my odds of a girl I had to try. I would welcome another boy but only in the context of a failed sway if you know what I mean. So i don't know if we have re 's in the UK or where I would look. Thanks for all the advice I really appreciate it. My diet has went to pot the past three days but am back on it today.

Good luck everyone else, Lissastick am stalking for updates, you as well jennypenny x

[Lissastick]

I'm 12 dpo today and have had horrible heartburn and indigestion for the last few days. And today I became vertigo dizzy! Also mildly nauseous. None of these are my typical pre menstrual symptoms! But I'm not pregnant because my HPTs are negative.

I hope I am not becoming diabetic or something :-(

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[purple]

Momamia I still have chicken, one portion of red meat per week and 4 -6 eggs per week. Atomic recommended it when my lp was 9 days. I will look into the b6 vitamin but given I am adding all the above I think am getting further away from pink. But I suppose if you cannot get pregnant you have no shot at your gender at all.

Bukoram I don't know what an Re is? Some sort of reproduction consultant? Am in the UK, we only have general practitioner and then they refer you for further tests with infertility clinic if you have not conceived within a year. But my gp said that although they would do further tests but as I have children already I would not be entitled to Ivf. I don't want Ivf anyway. I am not desperate for a fourth and if someone told me I would be guaranteed another boy I would not go for it. I never knew about swaying and only found out about it relatively recently, my dd really wants a sister and thought it was worth a shot, I felt knowing that I can increase my odds of a girl I had to try. I would welcome another boy but only in the context of a failed sway if you know what I mean. So i don't know if we have re 's in the UK or where I would look. Thanks for all the advice I really appreciate it. My diet has went to pot the past three days but am back on it today.

Good luck everyone else, Lissastick am stalking for updates, you as well jennypenny x

You should be able to do clomid at least. Beautifulrainbow is in the UK and she was able to get clomid and then injectables to conceive her 4th. Most fertility clinics don't jump straight to IVF first anyway and since you have conceived before you probably just need a little boost.

[purple]

13 DPO and got another BFN this morning followed by the arrival of AF hours later. I am not sure why, but I really thought this was going to be the month I got a positive.

I am confused at what step to take next. This was cycle number 5 and I am 35yr old so I know they say don't try for too long before taking the next step at older ages. I have PCOS but not insulin resistance, mainly just hormone imbalances. I have been on Metformin for over 2 months and it has helped my cycle so I think that means it is helping my hormones too (have not done more blood work since on met). My cycles got longer and longer after getting off BC in January (was up to 42 days) and now on the met they are getting shorter (37 last time and 34 this cycle). My PMS has gotten way better too which doc said would happen if my hormones balanced out. I am very excited to even be having a somewhat regular and tractable cycle because that wasn't the case in my younger years.

I have gotten +OPK the last three cycles and my luteal phase is always 13-14 days. I don't particular like my current doc. I have just been going to my normal OBGYN office, but the lady I see is the nurse practitioner and she said she thinks I am ovulating and was happy to hear I got +OPKs, but that doesn't mean I for sure actually ovulated does it?

One thing that I find strange that doc just brushed off as no big deal is that AF is not even 48 hours long ever since off BC. Actual flow can be as little as 12 hours with very light spotting the rest. Also I get very bad mid cycle (ovulation) cramping...for days and days. That is how I know it is time to test and ever single time I have started cramping mid cycle is when I get my +OPK.

I should mention, I am swaying pink. On LE diet, went vegetarian, 1000mg of Metformin, 1600 of folic acid, one attempt at +OPK, starting to exercise.

What should my next step be? Should I transfer to an endo? Ask for more blood work? Other tests? Other meds? Increase the Met? I was trying to avoid expensive options. I have already spent more than I expected at the norm doc and tests because my insurance sucks. DH and I already agreed we would not go as far as IVF.

Thanks.

I would try to get clomid or see a dr who will give it to you. I also have PCOS and had similar length cycles to you too. I'm on 1500mg of Metformin and it hadn't decreased my cycles the same as you so I think it is a great sign that yours are getting shorter. I would probably sick with 1000mg if that is what it working now.

Are you on the PCOS LE diet or normal LE? You should be on the PCOS one. Also keep up the excersise, even if you can't do the full girl sway amount, it is important to do any amount when you have PCOS.

I think if you are getting AF then you are probably ovulating. If you want to confirm it then get a BBT thermometer and chart your temps.

[Burakoam]

I don't want you to do Ivf girlie... Haven't even brought it up lol I think you need clomid and you can use clomid by itself without Ivf.. An RE is a Reproductive Endocrinologist. Not familiar how your doctors work in the Uk but here you have a few doctor options for clomid... You can ask atomic not only would it help you with a stronger ovulation but it also sways pink in the process so it could only help you girlie not hurt.

[Burakoam]

Purple, when I was TTC my youngest daughter I had regular 28 day cycles and had my period extremely consistently on the same day each month and positive OPK on the same day each month and I still was not ovulating. That's why I praise clomid so much for those who may need it because I really believe I would not have my youngest right now if I hadn't pushed the doctor for help understanding what was going on with my body. Despite the regular cycles he still said I must not be ovulating and one clomid cycle later I was pregnant so it's safe to assume he was right

[momamia4]

FX for you, Foreign Chick! :)

[GirlieCat]

Purple, when I was TTC my youngest daughter I had regular 28 day cycles and had my period extremely consistently on the same day each month and positive OPK on the same day each month and I still was not ovulating. That's why I praise clomid so much for those who may need it because I really believe I would not have my youngest right now if I hadn't pushed the doctor for help understanding what was going on with my body. Despite the regular cycles he still said I must not be ovulating and one clomid cycle later I was pregnant so it's safe to assume he was right

Burakoam, how did you know you were not ovulating? Was there anything doc did to prove ovulation was or was not happening? My doc just said she thinks I am ovulating but no real reason so that is why she said I don't need clomid.

I just don't believe it. My periods are so light and short and all the intense mid cycle cramping, I think my body is trying to ovulate but I am not actual releasing the egg.


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[Girlieplease]

You should be able to do clomid at least. Beautifulrainbow is in the UK and she was able to get clomid and then injectables to conceive her 4th. Most fertility clinics don't jump straight to IVF first anyway and since you have conceived before you probably just need a little boost.

Thanks purple, I had thought that about beautiful lrainbow and contacted her on the Facebook page. She was good enough to share her experience, she ran into the same problems as me with gp, she had to pay privately to get help with it. I will look into it but not sure I could afford it. Thanks for responding am just so lost at the minute, yet the diet and exercise continue x

[Girlieplease]

I'm 12 dpo today and have had horrible heartburn and indigestion for the last few days. And today I became vertigo dizzy! Also mildly nauseous. None of these are my typical pre menstrual symptoms! But I'm not pregnant because my HPTs are negative.

I hope I am not becoming diabetic or something :-(

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Looking hopefully Lissastick, your not out until af arrives, keeping everything crossed for you! X

[Girlieplease]

Hello everyone ;-)

I am currently 3dpo and felt the need join this forum.
This is my 2nd ( not consecutive) cycle TTC. I already have 3 dd's and am hoping for a ds this time. In my 1st attempt I swayed "hard": diet, pH, minerals, supplements, hormones, ions and timing!
This time around I'm fully relying on the moon sign :-p and a little tweak in timing & DH abstinence (4days)
Hope August turns out to be a (literally) positive month for all of us FX
Good luck everyone :luck:

xx

Good luck and fingers crossed for you, sending blue dust I have lots to spare x

[Girlieplease]

I don't want you to do Ivf girlie... Haven't even brought it up lol I think you need clomid and you can use clomid by itself without Ivf.. An RE is a Reproductive Endocrinologist. Not familiar how your doctors work in the Uk but here you have a few doctor options for clomid... You can ask atomic not only would it help you with a stronger ovulation but it also sways pink in the process so it could only help you girlie not hurt.

Sorry if I was clumsy in how i responded, I never thought you were suggesting Ivf! Thanks for all the advice, I think if I could pop a decent egg I would be grand with the rest. Atomic told me when my lp was 9 days that Clomid might be a good idea but she said I had to wait until the gp suggested it, he has not, will see what Thursday brings! X

[Foreign Chick]

Much appreciated momamia4 <3

Very sorry about your losses, hope you get a sticky PINK BFP very soon!

Sending tons of pink dust your way :HH::HH::HH::HH::HH:
xx

[Foreign Chick]

Thank you very much girlieplease <3

I will gladly accept your blue dust and offer my pink in return :)

xx

[Burakoam]

Lissa- any chance you are off on your ovulation by a day or two? Maybe you aren't 12 DPO? More like 10-11?

[Burakoam]

No girliecat... They did my pre testing and said it was normal. The only reason they thought I wasn't ovulating is because I went to him and gave my symptoms. During the initial consult he noticed my cystic acne and commented on it. I also have very thin hair and balding in some spots. He said even with a normal hormone panel he wanted to say I had some mild form of PCOS. He said we would give me a year and see what happens. Well my cycles were perfect and like clockwork but AWFUl... I was crazy emotional and easily depressed. My boobs would hurt something fiery all through each cycle not just in the 2ww... When I went back to him all broken out with my hair falling out and bawling cause I couldn't take it anymore he put me on progesterone for a week to 'normalize' me then had me start clomid after the progesterone period was done (actually had two periods in December.. My normal one and the progesterone withdrawal bleed) and I had absolutely no symptoms of being on clomid it made me feel fantastic... And I was convinced I wouldn't be so lucky as to get pregnant the first clomid cycle as it was supposedly not that common but I did get pregnant and I attribute it all to my excellent RE and clomid... I wish you all lived in Iowa so I could introduce you to him lol

Cat- what cycle are you on TTC? What are your cycles like for you? Any physical signs you may not be ovulating other than the intense cramping?

[essnce629]

No girliecat... They did my pre testing and said it was normal. The only reason they thought I wasn't ovulating is because I went to him and gave my symptoms. During the initial consult he noticed my cystic acne and commented on it. I also have very thin hair and balding in some spots. He said even with a normal hormone panel he wanted to say I had some mild form of PCOS. He said we would give me a year and see what happens. Well my cycles were perfect and like clockwork but AWFUl... I was crazy emotional and easily depressed. My boobs would hurt something fiery all through each cycle not just in the 2ww... When I went back to him all broken out with my hair falling out and bawling cause I couldn't take it anymore he put me on progesterone for a week to 'normalize' me then had me start clomid after the progesterone period was done (actually had two periods in December.. My normal one and the progesterone withdrawal bleed) and I had absolutely no symptoms of being on clomid it made me feel fantastic... And I was convinced I wouldn't be so lucky as to get pregnant the first clomid cycle as it was supposedly not that common but I did get pregnant and I attribute it all to my excellent RE and clomid... I wish you all lived in Iowa so I could introduce you to him lol

Cat- what cycle are you on TTC? What are your cycles like for you? Any physical signs you may not be ovulating other than the intense cramping?
Burakoam - - Have you had your ferritin levels (iron stores) checked? A level under 50 often leads to hair loss. After years of heavy periods and then my miscarriage, my ferritin was at 8. Ideal is 70-90 in women! Low ferritin can also cause poor egg quality and other symptoms similar to low thyroid - - feeling cold all the time, depression, fatigue, breathlessness, etc. Ferritin is not something they normally check, you have to ask for it specifically. After 18 months on high dose prescription iron 3 times a day, my level finally reached the normal level (72). If you have heavy periods or don't eat a lot of red meat, your levels are most likely low.

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[Burakoam]

Essnce-- wow! I don't know if I've ever had that checked? I know I've struggled in the past with anemia.. Is that the same thing?

[Girlieplease]

So I rang my gp, to get results from my blood draw taken at cd 21, the receptionist said two were normal, she did not say what they were maybe oestrogen? Progesterone was borderline, so she said the note said probably ovulating but need to get it checked next month to confirm, discuss with gp. Have appt with gp tomorrow morning, I will get the actual numbers tomorrow, so looks like he is going to wait an additional month before doing anything. Anyone have any idea what progesterone should be at cd21? What to go in full armed tomorrow. I am not getting pregnant and now borderline progesterone is that not enough to warrant some sort of action? X

[tfahn]

Girlieplease, 6-7 DPO Progesterone should be over 10 with an unmedicated cycle and if medicated is should be over 15. Estrogen should be about 200 per ovulated egg at that point.

[Girlieplease]

Thanks tfahn, I have no medication so will go with those figures. This is so frustrating x

[tfahn]

Girlieplease did you have the blood taken 6-7 days past ovulation? I can't remember.

Yes it can be very frustrating, Its tough waiting for results when you just want a solution and a plan to focus on. Hopefully you are ovulating on your own.

[Girlieplease]

It was cycle day 21, but I think I ovulated only 5 days before, I could not change the day as I was going away for a few days and did not return until Tuesday, so the earliest I could have got it done was this Wednesday, my period had already come and gone by then! My lp was only 7 days this month!

[tfahn]

5 DPO is still fine, I have had it taken at that point in the past too.

[Burakoam]

Girlie remember that's what I said was going on with my progesterone! i don't know why you have to wait.. Just call the nurse back and tell her that you have other symptoms going on and you want to get pregnant as soon as possible so you would like to try clomid BECAUSE even if you are ovulating at this point it's a weak ovulation with those borderline numbers and you don't want to wait another month just to find out again you are ovulating weakly or not at all when you could be completing your first clomid cycle and possibly pregnant next month!

[Burakoam]

Just put your foot down with them and say this is what you want to do. They already have the lab work right in front of them saying you aren't ovulating like you could be.. They are gonna drag their feet until you tell them what you want I think

[jennypenny]

It was cycle day 21, but I think I ovulated only 5 days before, I could not change the day as I was going away for a few days and did not return until Tuesday, so the earliest I could have got it done was this Wednesday, my period had already come and gone by then! My lp was only 7 days this month!
Good luck at docs tomorrow. I always find going into the gp with lots of information can help speed things along.

I'm hopefully getting my results back tomorrow (if they are back) the nurse said depending on results they will tell me o er the phone unless it has a note to say I need to make a doctor's appointment. X

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[Lissastick]

Started spotting today, AF due tomorrow. Ugh.

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[Burakoam]

Sorry lissa...-hugs-

[Dreamsister]

Sorry Lissa. FX for next month you will get BFP.

[Dreamsister]

Ladies, can I ask if you are believers that moon phases sways? Do you skip a month if your O-time dosen't align with new moon (girl) or full moon (boy)? How much do you think it matters? Is it silly to worry about this?

[Lissastick]

Ladies, can I ask if you are believers that moon phases sways? Do you skip a month if your O-time dosen't align with new moon (girl) or full moon (boy)? How much do you think it matters?
I've never given it any thought whatsoever.

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[Foreign Chick]

Ladies, can I ask if you are believers that moon phases sways? Do you skip a month if your O-time dosen't align with new moon (girl) or full moon (boy)? How much do you think it matters? Is it silly to worry about this?
Hi dreamsister, where in Europe are you? Just curious.... I used to live in Bulgaria, Poland and lastly Germany ;)

I personally don't believe in moon phases, but I do moon signs :rolleyes:

[kc15880]

atomic wrote a essay on lunaception - look for it in the index. No hard evidence at all. I personally wouldnt skip a month due to the moon phase - otherwise you would skip months forever! What a waste of precious fertility.

[Dreamsister]

Hi dreamsister, where in Europe are you? Just curious.... I used to live in Bulgaria, Poland and lastly Germany ;)

I personally don't believe in moon phases, but I do moon signs :rolleyes:

I live in Denmark. And you? I will check out moon signs :-)


DS1 (9) ❤️ DS2 (8) [emoji173] DS3 (5) ❤️ DW (41) [emoji1326] DH (38) [emoji144] TTC'ing pink from May 2016

[MrsSparkles]

Ladies, can I ask if you are believers that moon phases sways? Do you skip a month if your O-time dosen't align with new moon (girl) or full moon (boy)? How much do you think it matters? Is it silly to worry about this?

I'm not paying any attention to the moon phases.
Not enough evidence that it sways for my liking :)

[MrsSparkles]

I'm on day 11 post attempt.
Couldn't wait and did a test yesterday due to nausea (but just coming down with something I think) - it was a BFN.

I'll test again day 14, but I don't imagine it will be anything other than a BFN - sighs

[Foreign Chick]

[QUOTE=Dreamsister;851486]I live in Denmark. And you? I will check out moon signs :-)


Well hello to Denmark :)

I've immigrated to the US in 2002,been living here in Tennessee ever since.

Where are you in your cycle? I am 5dpo today and ready for the 2ww to be over... patience has never been my strength.

[Foreign Chick]

Lissa, sorry to hear.... xx

[Burakoam]

I was wrong. First two were conceived in girl sign and girl moon and last was conceived in girl sign. Boy moon..

This one was girl sign girl moon... Hoping it was a fluke chance it was right with the others... F***...

:(:(:pray::tissue:

[momamia4]

Sorry lissa. Hugs!

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[jennypenny]

11dpo today!

I just had to Call for blood test results at docs. Apparently results are back but doc hasn't had a chance to look at them yet grrrr!

I have to phone back tomorrow for them x

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[momamia4]

How frustrating, jennypenny!

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[MrsSparkles]

11dpo today!

I just had to Call for blood test results at docs. Apparently results are back but doc hasn't had a chance to look at them yet grrrr!

I have to phone back tomorrow for them x

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Ughhh the wait, I feel for you !

[momamia4]

I was wrong. First two were conceived in girl sign and girl moon and last was conceived in girl sign. Boy moon..

This one was girl sign girl moon... Hoping it was a fluke chance it was right with the others... F***...

:(:(:pray::tissue:

I'm sure it was just a fluke. Don't worry about it. :)

[momamia4]

I am having a horribly emotional day today. My anxiety is in full swing. :( I'm worrying about things that happened 15 years ago. Why do I do this to myself? I know logically that I can't change anything that happened back then, so why do I still think about it? I hate days like this. I got into a huge argument with my sister because she's always so negative. She made my anxiety way worse than it already was and then she tried to turn it around on me that I made her upset? Are you freaking kidding me?! I'm so done right now. I think I'll just avoid her for a few months. I'm so frustrated with everything!

[Girlieplease]

So the appointment with gp went like this. He said my progesterone was 27, he said anything 30 and above indicates ovulation, below 10 indicates no ovulation. So he said that it indicated that I ovulated. When I told him that my period started two days later, he said that made sense so we did not measure at peak progesterone and it was already coming down. He said he would be concerned about the short lp of 7 days but thinks, and I cannot really argue with this point, that maybe I o'ed earlier. Is it possible to ovulate and it not register with a change in temp, or not be picked up by the clear blue fertility monitor and the clear digital sticks and then a few days later get a temp spike, an egg symbol on the cb monitor and a static smilie on the digital sticks?
Anyway, because am 36 and have had no problems conceiving before and due to this borderline result, he is referring me to infertility Dr, he said it could take 2 months or 4 depending on waiting list. He said they will probably not do anything until I have been unsuccessful for longer but by the time am seen I could be nearly at a year and they might prescribe clomid! He said to keep trying to conceive until the appt. He hopes I get pregnant before the appt happens, he has seen this loads! Any thoughts? X

[Girlieplease]

Should say, I think he thinks am an awkward old cow and referred me on to shut me up! X

[Girlieplease]

I am having a horribly emotional day today. My anxiety is in full swing. :( I'm worrying about things that happened 15 years ago. Why do I do this to myself? I know logically that I can't change anything that happened back then, so why do I still think about it? I hate days like this. I got into a huge argument with my sister because she's always so negative. She made my anxiety way worse than it already was and then she tried to turn it around on me that I made her upset? Are you freaking kidding me?! I'm so done right now. I think I'll just avoid her for a few months. I'm so frustrated with everything!

I feel like this today. Frustrated that I have to do everything and keep everyone happy but no one seems that interested in making sure am happy. I had to do a six mile run today after work because I could not face it before I had appt with gp. My husband was home early sitting on his bottom drinking coffee and I so hated having to go out and run. But going to treat myself to a lovely long bath, if my wee ones ever go to sleep, then into bed with my book, going to be good to myself! Sending hugs momma, these days come to us all! X

[Girlieplease]

11dpo today!

I just had to Call for blood test results at docs. Apparently results are back but doc hasn't had a chance to look at them yet grrrr!

I have to phone back tomorrow for them x

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So annoying, hope the results are good tomorrow. Are you still in the 2ww? If so and you are pregnant what should your results be? Exciting! X

[Girlieplease]

Started spotting today, AF due tomorrow. Ugh.

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Sorry Lissastick, sending hugs! Glad to have you with me on the Sept bus though! X

[Girlieplease]

Girlie remember that's what I said was going on with my progesterone! i don't know why you have to wait.. Just call the nurse back and tell her that you have other symptoms going on and you want to get pregnant as soon as possible so you would like to try clomid BECAUSE even if you are ovulating at this point it's a weak ovulation with those borderline numbers and you don't want to wait another month just to find out again you are ovulating weakly or not at all when you could be completing your first clomid cycle and possibly pregnant next month!

Thanks, I tried my hardest today. He has at least done something!

[Girlieplease]

Just put your foot down with them and say this is what you want to do. They already have the lab work right in front of them saying you aren't ovulating like you could be.. They are gonna drag their feet until you tell them what you want I think

I need some of your kickass attitude, love it! X

[momamia4]

I think he is making a lot of assumptions about your cycle without additional testing/ultrasounds. I'm glad he referred you. It seems to me he knows he's out of his depth in this area and that's why he referred you so quickly. I'm glad you'll soon be getting the care you need! :) in my experience when the opks say you ovulated is when you actually ovulated. My old RE said you typically ovulate the day after the first positive opk. I think you clearly have a lp defect and need the clomid. I think it'll definitely get you your little girl. :)

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[Girlieplease]

I think he is making a lot of assumptions about your cycle without additional testing/ultrasounds. I'm glad he referred you. It seems to me he knows he's out of his depth in this area and that's why he referred you so quickly. I'm glad you'll soon be getting the care you need! :) in my experience when the opks say you ovulated is when you actually ovulated. My old RE said you typically ovulate the day after the first positive opk. I think you clearly have a lp defect and need the clomid. I think it'll definitely get you your little girl. :)

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Thanks, it probably be a while before anything happens. I agree with you, ovulation is a biological event, they rarely occur without it registering in some way! I love the support in this group, ttc is such a hard process, what would I do without you ladies x

[momamia4]

I agree. I'd lose my mind during this process if it wasn't for this message board! :)

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[baby2016baby]

Hi girlie. Just my 2 cents. Only because I have worked for the nhs in a related field and also had problems conceiving my first, eventually fell after 16 month trying, several cd21 bloods, scans and 2 doses of Clomid.

I'm baffled as to why he didn't just prescribe clomid. As this would provide a stronger and more effective ovulation. I hope you will be reffered quickly. They may do a scan to check lining/tubes/ovaries etc. There's alot of things they can check for before ivf route is taken. That should be a last resort especially as you will have to pay for it private. As far as I am aware clomid should cost only the standard prescription charge and any scans should be free of charge too. Even if they suspect a blockage and suggest a lap and due (which I was one cycle away from) it shouldn't cost you. I hope this helps and I've got everything crossed you get sorted. Although I'm still baffled as to why your gp did not prescribe the clomid even for 2 cycles with those progesterone figures but I guess they all must work different. I was given clomid off my gp while waiting for a refferal which thankfully I never needed. All i can suggest is you dig you heels in and go armed with as much information as you can. I'm not sure if you can access the NICE guidance for secondary infertility as this might be worth a read and should help you see the options open to you xxx