Blue Swayers daily chat thread!!!

[business.woman]

GL next cycle then :)
I will try lemon water when trying :)


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[Throwaway_panther]

Hii Ladies !!
How is everything going on?
Diva , panther?

My life style became LE diet again , because I'm trying to lose weight
I wont TTC until I lose at least 5 kilos

My DH is eating better now ! More than when I was TTC ! Ugh whyyyy!!!
He is eating all the 3 meals (he was skipping breakfast and dinner).




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My thyroid levels went even more hypo with this drug change, so I'm out another 4-6 weeks at least. I have a feeling I'll be trying closer to a year postpartum or beyond based on this thyroid stuff, which I'm sure will make atomic at least a little more pleased lol

[MiaMelb]

Sorry your levels have gone a bit crazy Panther. Sounds like one step forwards two steps backwards at this point, so frustrating. Your right that the silver lining is longer between pregnancies, can only be good for your blue sway.

[MsMarie89]

What's the consensus on extra light olive oil for blue sway? I've been making my own mayonnaise and ranch dressing for the last year and both take extra light olive oil and I would hate to give them up! It is a healthy fat so should be good for blue... correct?

[MiaMelb]

What's the consensus on extra light olive oil for blue sway? I've been making my own mayonnaise and ranch dressing for the last year and both take extra light olive oil and I would hate to give them up! It is a healthy fat so should be good for blue... correct?

Curious about olive oils too. Know that the aim for a blue sway is to increase animal fat/oil intake rather than vegetable fats/oils but would have thought olive oil contained healthy nutrients and may be good for blue? Keen to hear from a more seasoned swayer.

[dancingdiva88]

Atomic says olive oil and coconut oil are good to cook with for blue. No to canola. Hope this helps. I'm about to start my 1st attempt cycle in a few days when AF shows her head.

[MiaMelb]

GL Dancingdiva. There seems to be a lot of baby dust round at the moment so hopefully some of that luck comes your way.

[dancingdiva88]

Thanks mia! I'm excited! I remember feeling this way last month and then hubby got a nasty eye infection and needed antibiotics so we cancelled that cycle on atomic's advice.
I've already given him stern words to wash his hands before rubbing his face this month hahaha!

[MsMarie89]

Thank you dancingdiva! Definitely helps! :)
Good luck this month!! Thinking blue thoughts for you!!

[LMSM]

Hello ladies,

I posted a while ago (I think mid-December), but never really got a chance to come back – and now that my sway is in full swing and we are going to have our first attempt in about 6-8 weeks, time to get myself surrounded by the blue swayers and their vibes so I can do the best possible sway :D
Would it be ok for me to “come back”?

For a quick background – I am 32, hubby is almost 39 – we live in Australia and have 2 little girls (3.5 y.o and 17 m.o), both conceived on Clomid (I struggle ovulating) and both after a laparoscopy (I have endometriosis) .
I realise that though I thought I was doing the right thing – and am very much a boy mum (control, overplanner and co :P )- from a diet perspective I was such a girls’ mum (underweight, exercising, dieting, but yet eating too much nutrient poor sugary stuff) lol so this site has opened my eyes and can see what I did wrong previously ^^
I have just weaned my DD2 a few days ago (going well bar the sore boobs!) and saw my fertility specialist a few weeks ago – my cycles have been back fully since August but he reckons though my body gives me all the right signs (pos opks, ewcm, ovary pains, temperatures all correlate) I am actually not ovulating (or at least, I wasn’t this cycle as my prog levels were too low to indicate O). Am doing Day3 blood tests tomorrow to check how everything is going – and determine whether we will need to take action to get baby 3 on the way - he does think the weaning will do a lot of good in the right direction to get my body hopefully ovulating naturally – so crossing fingers.
I am not keen on ovulation induction via Clomid and the like – been there done that – so would love to help my body with it all whilst remaining blue friendly.

Anyways, you will soon find out I talk too much so please, do shut me up if I ramble on too much! :P

I hope to be able to be more consistent and post here often – not like my 1st attempt ^^
Cheers,

[MsMarie89]

Hi LMSM!

I am new on this site but have so much enjoyed all the information in this thread and all the lovey ladies that answer my questions! My two girls are a little older then yours but have similar age gaps! Sisters are the best!! I love love love my girls bond!

Welcome!

[dancingdiva88]

Hi lmsm! Welcome! Feel free to ask any questions, vent about anything etc.
Speaking of venting - of course DH wakes up this morning with a random tummy bug that's got him at both ends (tmi) and running a fever. I'm doing everything I can to get the fever down (no jocks, air con/fan on, cool showers, painkillers) at least I can stay on top of that. He refused to eat anything today except for a little bit of dinner. I told him I'm not waiting another cycle, so hoping it's just a 24 bug. Bloody men! I'm the healthiest I've been and he just keeps getting sick thanks to our DD and her cesspool of diseased at day care.
Lucky I have long cycles and don't O until in the 20s.
Frustrated with him is an understatement even though it's not his fault.

[cosmosis]

Hi lmsm! Welcome! Feel free to ask any questions, vent about anything etc.
Speaking of venting - of course DH wakes up this morning with a random tummy bug that's got him at both ends (tmi) and running a fever. I'm doing everything I can to get the fever down (no jocks, air con/fan on, cool showers, painkillers) at least I can stay on top of that. He refused to eat anything today except for a little bit of dinner. I told him I'm not waiting another cycle, so hoping it's just a 24 bug. Bloody men! I'm the healthiest I've been and he just keeps getting sick thanks to our DD and her cesspool of diseased at day care.
Lucky I have long cycles and don't O until in the 20s.
Frustrated with him is an understatement even though it's not his fault.

Oh nooooo! :( I hope he gets over the bug quickly. Dh got a bit ill towards the end of my cycle so I feel ya.

[Bommy_7]

So does anyone else still drink coffee? I don't really do soda, but I brew coffee every day I work (4 days a week) I normally add whole milk and some creamer I use one of those travel mugs so I think its like 16 oz, but I add a decent amount of milk and cream. Is this too much?

[srg09cag11]

I drink one cup every day -- I can't give it up! BUT, I scaled it back from at least two cups a day. :)

[Bommy_7]

I drink one cup every day -- I can't give it up! BUT, I scaled it back from at least two cups a day. :)

I know! I don't really want to give it up. I have a long commute so its nice to have something hot or cold to sip while I drive to work. Of course I will try to give it up if it really is a problem.

[LMSM]

Hi ladies and thanks for the welcome :D

MsMarie – yes, I love seeing my girls together too – they can be so darn cute (they do bicker and fight a bit too but which siblings don’t?) ! I hope they keep a strong bond as they grow older :) how old are your girls? Have you started the sway for a boy?
My youngest had a rough 24h between Sunday night and Monday night – starting with no sleep then vomiting 4 times in about as many hours– after several naps during the day, she was better – but then just before dinner she was sitting on my lap, and wanting to go get her sister she climbed down awkwardly and hurt her arm – couldn’t see anything but her inconsolable manner meant that I rushed her to the ER - she had a pulled elbow and the doc put it back in place: but her sister was the most adorable “oh darling don’t cry, it’s ok” while kissing her, she was visibly upset that her baby sister was unwell – love those two!!! :)

My new cycle has finally started last week so this is the last cycle before our attempt if all goes well – eeeeeep!
I am waiting on some blood work results that my fertility specialist ordered – so will see how that pans out – hoping it is all how it should be as I really would rather avoid treatment ^^
I think I will get onto the EPO and fish oil regime (I had only taken fish oil up until now) as that seems a good option for supporting fertility and ovulation – I will dig out the info, but I think I recall it was EPO AF-O but fish oil every day all cycle?

I’m glad you raised the topic of coffee Bommy! I still have the odd one but have cut down – it’s mostly milk anyways but admittedly I do miss it - and when I can I do decaf. Not ideal but will stop entirely (if I can manage haha) in a couple of weeks and stick to tea instead…

DancingDiva – yikes, how annoying with your hubby being sick right now – I think us Mums build up our immune systems faster with all the stuff kids bring home from daycare ..I hope it’s just a 24h thing and he’ll be back to being fit and healthy asap in time for your attempt! ;)

Have a lovely day – its’ finally cooled down here, so though it is humid because of the rain, it’s not 30+ degrees – so I can finally breathe haha

[Bommy_7]

So do you guys think paleo while adding full fat dairy would be a good way to start the HE diet? I'm starting in about a week and wonder if using those principals would make it easier. I have my race tomorrow then I will be backing off running to one a week and trying to lift weights and walk 4 times a week. I hope I'm not doing any cardio.

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[Bommy_7]

I mean too much cardio lol

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[LMSM]

So do you guys think paleo while adding full fat dairy would be a good way to start the HE diet? I'm starting in about a week and wonder if using those principals would make it easier. I have my race tomorrow then I will be backing off running to one a week and trying to lift weights and walk 4 times a week. I hope I'm not doing any cardio.

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Hi Bommy!
Is Paleo essentially lots of fruit and veg, lean meats and no processed foods whatsoever?
If so, if you ensure you are eating enough (especially since you are exercising) and often enough to keep your blood sugar levels nice and stable, with some ff dairy then wouldn't be bad I dare say but maybe more weathered stayers have different views? ;)

[Bommy_7]

Thanks that was my kinda thought since I don't want to gain much wieght I'm trying to door the healthiest HE version I can. Also pintrest has tons of easy recipes so I think I'll check that out. Of course I'd love to hear any suggestions :-)

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[LMSM]

@Bommy -
If you can pre-prep snacks and meals ready to go then that is the best – I am gearing towards that - ideas of what I have done – this of course if not Paleo per se but you can probably use some of this and still be ok ^^ you don’t have to do massive portions each time, just enough to keep your BS levels stable.

Brekkie:
Oat porridge with FF milk and sliced banana and cashew butter
Wholemeal toast with scrambled cheesy eggs and avocado
Wholemeal savoury muffin
I often drink a black tea with a dash of FF milk – and if I can, glass of juice

Drinks:
Green tea (I can’t stomach it so do Rooibos tea instead or black tea with FF milk)
Lemon or lime water (like 2L/day)
Red raspberry leaf tea
Coconut water (I have at least a large glass/day)
Vege juice (I hear V8 is good but can’t down the stuff)
Wheatgrass juice (I mix this powder with apple or coconut juice, blitz it up and gulp in one go – it taste foul but try to do it every morning)

Snacks:
- Making a big batch of hommous (blitz until smooth: chickpeas, lemon juice, garlic, salt, hint of chili, olive oil) :and dividing it into portions (can freeze too if you thaw portion needed slowly in fridge overnight). Pack in a tupperware with carrot or celery sticks (which you can cut in advance and can keep for a few days in fridge) - A similar dip is done with cannelloni beans – and is super smooth and satisfying! Allows for some protein and carb in a healthy format ^^
- Portion of greek yogurt - with handful of almonds on the side – or dip pieces of fruit in it for more fibre (apple, pear or banana are yum)
- I pack a mixed bag of nuts (almonds, walnuts mainly) with dried apricots – and snack on those together: curbs the sweet cravings whilst satisfying esp. if a bit hungry
- When I feel extra indulgent – I snack on little pretzels dipped in my cashew butter - :P
- Apparently Larabars are good options too – seems they are made mainly of dates and nuts – so worthwhile having some when on the go and if feeling like a sweet fix! You could also do your own granola bars (when I was b/fing I made these: oats, nuts, seeds, honey, coconut, brewers’ yeast – the honey sweetens and keeps it all together – could find you the recipe if inclined. You could probably even use rice malt syrup instead? I baked it then cut up in squares that I froze and a little go in the microwave and they were ready to eat again – very filling and nutrient dense ^^).
- Cheese - crackers and apple slices
- Low GI banana/walnut bread – could be served with some cream cheese or butter
- Cut up orange or grapefruit with handful of nuts
- Handful of cherry tomatoes with wholemeal crackers
- Piece of dark 70% chocolate with nuts (I do that as my post dinner snack)

Meals:
- Slow cooked meats (chicken, pork, beef all are easy for this) : depending on what you feel like:
o Moroccan inspired: ras el ranout spices with dried apricots/raisins – I usually add some tomatoes, zucchini and eggplant – and chickpeas. Serve with couscous
o Mexican style: tomatoes, beans and taco style spices – serve with fresh coriander and a dollop of yogurt with a side of brown rice for instance
o Russian style: in cream based sauce, onions, mushrooms etc – (beef stroganoff style) – fresh pasta would be yum with this if you want a comforting dish
All these freeze really well (I usually shred the meat so it soaks up any sauce too so extra tender!) – so I can dig it out and just cook some quinoa or other grain with it ^^
- Wholemeal pasta with mince beef sauce
- Stir fry veg (lots of leafy greens and colourful veg – such as capsicum) – with lemongrass beef/chicken strips – tasty and light! :)
- I often do a pork fillet (sealed on pan first) basted in Dijon mustard, and covered with rashers of bacon -> oven until cooked well – it is indulgent but I serve it with leafy greens and roasted veg (pumpkin, sweet potato etc). Never have leftovers of this, everyone has seconds :D
- Grilled or steamed salmon (max twice a week) – fresh lemon squeezed on top with asparagus/ green beans, sweet potato mash on the side. Great for leftovers too for lunch
- Quiche – a great way to get eggs in: make a lot of individual ones (with whichever kind of filling you fancy) or big ones if meant for the whole family – will fill you up and satisfy if hungry– serve with leafy greens salad and voila! ^^ They freeze great too
- Eggs sandwich or wrap (wholemeal/wholegrain is best) or as a salad – I cut it up and mix with fresh tomato and a tad of hommous (better and more nutritious than mayo if you are weight conscious) . Might add a small can of tuna to bulk it up too - I just can’t do boiled eggs on their own :P
- Grilled meat plus big bowl of spinach salad (you could add pomegranate seed, ****s of apple or pear walnuts, cheese ****s etc)
- Meaty soup (not a big fan myself so wouldn’t be able to :P )

I don’t know if this ok re Paleo – but at some point was making this bread (and will get back to it) you could make it minus the seeds (which shouldn’t be eaten in large quantities for the sway)? Life Changing Loaf of Bread - My Green Lunchbox (http://www.mygreenlunchbox.com.au/content/35-life-changing-loaf-of-bread) it is nutritious, sooooo easy to make and versatile ;)

The ladies here surely have ideas too – and might comment if I have made some faux pas in my above suggestions :D

[MiaMelb]

Thanks so much for the run through of your daily meals LMSM. It's so nice just to have someone confirm boy friendly foods I've already started to integrate before I really go full HE diet for our sway. I'm looking forward to living vicariously through a few people's blue sways over the next few weeks.

[Bommy_7]

Great Ideas LMSM I will definitely look into these! I am so excited and nervous to start this.

[LMSM]

My pleasure ladies – glad it can give you ideas if nothing else! this is the ideal I will strive towards gradually – not every meal or snack is spot on as yet but getting there! :D

[Cnburke]

:bighug: Oh Cnburke I'm really sorry it hasn't gone the way you were hoping. I'd forgotten you'd done the sneak peek testing and everything. How are you feeling about the news? I know there isn't anything that can really be said to stave off feeling disappointed but I truely believe that a little girl who overcame all your blue sway strategies must really want to be part of your family. If/when you want to chat lots of women with experiences and thoughts to share with.

I'm actually taking it a lot better than I did the second go around ! It's strange lol . At this point I just have my hands in the air lol like what can I do? I don't want to be miserable in my pity like I was the second go around . And knowing how close I am with my youngest it makes me feel awful that I was ever disappointed she was a she . So I've worked up the excitement and am ready for baby girl 3 and all the adventures that having 3 daughters brings us . We are our own 'full house' episode I told my husband hahaha


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[MiaMelb]

I'm actually taking it a lot better than I did the second go around ! It's strange lol . At this point I just have my hands in the air lol like what can I do? I don't want to be miserable in my pity like I was the second go around . And knowing how close I am with my youngest it makes me feel awful that I was ever disappointed she was a she . So I've worked up the excitement and am ready for baby girl 3 and all the adventures that having 3 daughters brings us . We are our own 'full house' episode I told my husband hahaha


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I actually found your response very uplifting, thank you. I hope that when we do sway for #3 it's successful but if it's not I'll try and take your approach. GL with your pregnancy.

[LMSM]

I'm actually taking it a lot better than I did the second go around ! It's strange lol . At this point I just have my hands in the air lol like what can I do? I don't want to be miserable in my pity like I was the second go around . And knowing how close I am with my youngest it makes me feel awful that I was ever disappointed she was a she . So I've worked up the excitement and am ready for baby girl 3 and all the adventures that having 3 daughters brings us . We are our own 'full house' episode I told my husband hahaha


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Congrats for this little girl, she is going to be another wonderful addition to your family...! :)
I feel you, I had some GD with DD2, but after as soon as she was born she became my little glue, and we are very close..as if I felt guilty for ever thinking , how nice would it have been to have a boy...it was just meant to be to have her.
I think your approach is the most sensible one...at the end of the day, sways and what not, we are not the ones making the final call. I am not religious in the least but do believe that fate put those girls in our families, they were simply meant to be.
Looking forward to hearing how your pregnancy ticks along, and how you prepare for her arrival.. hope all is otherwise well with the pregnancy too! ;)

[Bommy_7]

I'm actually taking it a lot better than I did the second go around ! It's strange lol . At this point I just have my hands in the air lol like what can I do? I don't want to be miserable in my pity like I was the second go around . And knowing how close I am with my youngest it makes me feel awful that I was ever disappointed she was a she . So I've worked up the excitement and am ready for baby girl 3 and all the adventures that having 3 daughters brings us . We are our own 'full house' episode I told my husband hahaha


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I am glad you are doing alright. I hope to be the same way. I keep focusing on the next being a girl anyway because I love my YDD and felt so guilty at how terrible I felt when I was so disappointing she was a girl. I'm sure the sister bond will be wonderful to see.

[LMSM]

I am glad you are doing alright. I hope to be the same way. I keep focusing on the next being a girl anyway because I love my YDD and felt so guilty at how terrible I felt when I was so disappointing she was a girl. I'm sure the sister bond will be wonderful to see.
Bommy – can definitely confirm that sisterly bond is pretty special!
I think picturing them as adults, wonderful beings that I can hopefully still have that strong bond with – and them together - is heart-warming and makes it easier to accept there may never be a son in our family… <3
They might just have lots of sons themselves and will be able to live that by proxy ;)

[meoab]

This is the second month with bo AF and it scares me as I have never experienced anything like this. Im not gaining more weight than I already have and using the kettlebell atleast 30 minutes each day. Sigh...What should I do? Anyone here with PCOS (or PCO tendencies) who swayed succesfully blue? I know I still have a chance but I am wondering how big my chances are here.

[Throwaway_panther]

Meoab, you've tested to make sure you're not pregnant, right? Crazier things have happened. From my understanding though, if it's PCOS related, PCOS tends to sway blue.


Got my bloodwork back. TSH is finally in TTC levels but my T4 has barely budged from its solidly hypo level. We're upping my dose, but this is more thyroid weirdness as usual where any advice online doesn't apply to me since I have no thyroid... and low T4 is very specifically lonked to early miscarriages. Sigh. I know hypo levels seem to sway boy, but I wonder how anyone's ever had a successful pregnancy with hypo levels. It must be my complete lack of thyroid throwing in the wrench.

[LMSM]

@meoab -like Panther would suggest you test, just in case!
I have PCO tendencies but have two daughters (Clomid babes) sô can't quite say!
If not pregnant and you don't usually miss a period like that, might be worth investigating why..progesterone can be prescribed to bring on AF and get you back on track !

@Panther so some semi good news with the FSH being ok now though not the T4. What does your specialist say, if you have had a chance for a chat? Sorry I know nothing about thyroid issues so just want to say hang in there !

Ladies, hoping you can help here!
I crave Milo with cold milk...do you know if Milo is ok???
Also, want to drink red raspberry leaf tea- if ok for blue (seems so) would you drink it all cycle, af-o, etc?

Also, got my results from my fertility specialist: all hormones now back in normal range, and AMH is great...now hoping I actually can ovulate properly on my own! :D

[boywish]

meoab no experience with PCOS but as throwaway said I think it may sway blue. Are you tracking with opks- I know they aren't as reliable for those with pcos but may give you an idea of what is going on i.e. body trying to ovulate and when?

TP- Good sign that your thyroid levels are getting better. My T4 has always been on the lower end and we successfully conceived DD - but I haven't had my thyroid removed so probably not the same..

LMSM - fantastic news about your hormone levels! Fingers crossed for ovulation for you! I'm not sure about the milo with milk I think it would be ok every so often but maybe not everyday as it does have quite a bit of sugar?

As for me - AF arrived today -28 day cycle which is better than last months 21 days. Worried about LP phase as + opk on D17 so only 9ish days... we tested my progesterone 2 cycles ago and it was ok at D21 so not sure what to do.


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[Throwaway_panther]

@LMSM: Back after the second m/c, he aaid to hold off until we're stabilized. This time, he just said "test again in 6 weeks" through a call from the nurse. My levels can only improve further so I'm planning MAYBE an April or May attempt? Who knows... DH is another issue now too though, since he's gotten much quieter about TTC. I think 2 losses in a row shook him more than he let on.

@boywish: I've conceieved twice with low T4! My issue is keeping them :/

[meoab]

Hi ladies. Unfortunately I am not pregnant. Did the test three times and got negative.. I have booked an appointment with my gp to explain the situation and see what tests we can do. I hope no clomid as it sways pink or any other pill that might sway pink :/. Its a good idea to track ovulation @boywish but wont this delayed ovulation affect my egg quality I am wondering? Its a bummer that the more I focus on getting pregnant the more stressful it gets.

Good luck Panther, LMSM and boywish. I hope we all get our sweet little boys. I

[MsMarie89]

LMSM-
Oh I hope your baby got over it quickly!! My irks are 4 1/2 and 2 1/2 :)! I have started pre swaying with supplements, he diet, and weight lifting. We won't be ttc till this summer or early fall!

[LMSM]

Hi ladies. Unfortunately I am not pregnant. Did the test three times and got negative.. I have booked an appointment with my gp to explain the situation and see what tests we can do. I hope no clomid as it sways pink or any other pill that might sway pink :/. Its a good idea to track ovulation @boywish but wont this delayed ovulation affect my egg quality I am wondering? Its a bummer that the more I focus on getting pregnant the more stressful it gets.

Good luck Panther, LMSM and boywish. I hope we all get our sweet little boys. I

Hi Meoab – where are you located? You doctor should be able to test all the basics such as TSH, LH, oestrogem progesterone etc – to see what is happening.
Cycles do skip sometimes though – and if you had no fertility issues in the past, there is no reason why you would get Clomid prescribed... usually to bring on a cycle, one would get progesterone – when you stop taking them, the drop in progesterone more often than not brings on a period. Then you could be back on track ;)
Are you taking any supplements, teas or herbs? They may also potentially have an effect on your cycle!
Delayed ovulation, is not necessarily your issue – as I said you might have skipped a cycle or so, only way to determine what the go is blood tests and an ultrasound – keep us posted as to what your doc says! ;)

[LMSM]

LMSM-
Oh I hope your baby got over it quickly!! My irks are 4 1/2 and 2 1/2 :)! I have started pre swaying with supplements, he diet, and weight lifting. We won't be ttc till this summer or early fall!

Thanks Marie – she is fine now – she did take a tumble yesterday and bumper her poor nose and front :( life with an adventurous 18 month-old!
It’s great you are planning well ahead so when you start trying you will be a HE pro! ;)

[LMSM]

@LMSM: Back after the second m/c, he aaid to hold off until we're stabilized. This time, he just said "test again in 6 weeks" through a call from the nurse. My levels can only improve further so I'm planning MAYBE an April or May attempt? Who knows... DH is another issue now too though, since he's gotten much quieter about TTC. I think 2 losses in a row shook him more than he let on.

@boywish: I've conceieved twice with low T4! My issue is keeping them :/

TP – if the doc is not warning you not to try (assume he is aware of your losses and your desire to get pregnant again?) – then fx for you being able to trry again soon!
Was your husband the one to keen to try so soon after your DD or was it coming from you? Sometimes men just are indecisive when it comes to having babies! ;)
And their experience of loss is different too – it surely would have affected him: my husband was deeply affected – he was so happy (maybe more so than me even!) to have me expecting naturally after the heartache when we were waiting for our 1st .
Be open about it with him and let him let you know what he feels and wants in his own time – as keen to start trying as you may be ;)

[LMSM]

As for me - AF arrived today -28 day cycle which is better than last months 21 days. Worried about LP phase as + opk on D17 so only 9ish days... we tested my progesterone 2 cycles ago and it was ok at D21 so not sure what to do.


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Hi Boywish,

So end of the suspense for you then – it’s not super long a LP but if your cycles are lengthening that in itself is a good thing! ;) if your progesterone was good then I wouldn't worry too much - even in perfectly fertile woemn there are "off" cycles (anovulatory etc).
Hoping your next cycle gives you that blue BFP ^^

Am still unsure about this cycle so will see if I join you soon! my temps could drop (still only 7dpo)- sometimes I think I night be pregnant and others – shrug it away..
The funny thing is on Thursday, my husband picked up the kids from daycare – and he told me that my eldest’s kindy teacher had asked him if I was pregnant – to which he say “erm, not that I am aware, why?” – my daughter had told her and everyone that her mummy was going to hospital to have a baby lol
One of her besties is having a baby sister or borther so that might play a role too – though when I fell pregnant with her sister, she was barely 18 m.o and before I had even taken a test, or mentioned babies to her, she came to me one morning and patted my belly and said “baby, baby” – so am to see if M the patented pregnancy test has done it again haha!

[Throwaway_panther]

TP – if the doc is not warning you not to try (assume he is aware of your losses and your desire to get pregnant again?) – then fx for you being able to trry again soon!
Was your husband the one to keen to try so soon after your DD or was it coming from you? Sometimes men just are indecisive when it comes to having babies! ;)
And their experience of loss is different too – it surely would have affected him: my husband was deeply affected – he was so happy (maybe more so than me even!) to have me expecting naturally after the heartache when we were waiting for our 1st .
Be open about it with him and let him let you know what he feels and wants in his own time – as keen to start trying as you may be ;)

Yeah, my endo was the one at my 6 month postpartum appointment who was telling me, "I see you having lots of kids. Ready to go again?" And we chalked up the first loss to the standard odds of miscarriage. After the second one, we checked levels and realized what the issue was (he had brought my dose down too low after pregnancy and we took for granted that my hypo symptoms were just normal new mom stuff).

The first pregnancy after DD was a complete surprise -- I literally got pregnant from precum, because we were doing a VERY conservative pulling out plus I was EBF and my midwife felt confident I was having anovulatory cyces getting my period back so soon. Lol, surprise!
The second was more of a, "Ok, it's been a full cycle after the miscarriage, it'll be 6 months, let's be more loosey goosey." Definitely my desire to get cracking, but DH DOES want them done before 40, and he's coming up on 37, so it's pretty equal.

Even before seeing your post, we had talked -- he's fine to go again, he just didn't want to bring it up apparently until my body was ready to go again. But he also apparently combined both miscarriages in his memory which speaks to his level of paying attention -_-

[LMSM]

@TP – I guess the positive is that you are a very fertile couple, and that is one less hurdle to worry about. Especially since you seem to both be on the same page and wanting #2 ^^
It’s funny my DH, like yours, wants us to be done before he is 40 (midlife crisis worries? :P) – which is June next year, so we are running after time – I want to be done by 35 which is in 3 years but have to compromise for him too so let’s hope bub comes along soon haha
Re him "combining" both your losses in his mind - blah, men, 'nough said ^^
Now that you know what the underlying issue was, and are working with your endocrinologist to get that under control, you’ll be expecting that blue bundle in no time - :D FX!

[dancingdiva88]

When are you hoping to start TTC again panther? Has your doctor given a rough indication when he thinks you'll be all good to go again? (Sounds like you're a machine when I put it that way! Hahahaha!)

[Throwaway_panther]

@LMSM: thank you!! Haha, I have to wonder if it's some sort of midlife crisis thing too. My DH rounds himself up ton50 sometimes! :eyeroll: Your positivity is so appreciated!

DD: probably within the next month or two. The TSH being stable was a big deal to my endo, so hopefully the T4 will be solid by the time we try. Part of me dreams of just going for it in April, but I'm thinking a May/June attempt sounds like a reality. It's funny I'll be TTC close to a year afterall instead of the ASAP I hoped to do right after DD's birth. I won't be waiting until 18 months postpartum though. I thinj my nervousness is stupidly on the swaying months -- we'd be in "girl months," even though I can't even count how many February and March boys and men I know!

[meoab]

I have booked an appointment for next month. It kind of scares me. This is completely new to me, it's out of my control which freaks me out. I keep myself busy but peopke asking me if I am already pregnant stress me more out lol. As if I have a deadline.

What if I start ttc actively and fully from now on by bd'ing every 2/3 days and use the opk (do the 3 attempts in the fertile window) even though there is no sign of AF? Is there any difference in the quality of the eggs? Might sound stupid but I have no great knowledge regarding this. It's a new area for me :).

[dancingdiva88]

Sorry meoab I don't have any answers for you there. Definitely talk to your doctor and see what they say.
As for my first attempt - I got a raging (darker than the control line) positive opk with my fmu. We had already had an attempt yesterday evening but did an attempt this morning and we'll do another one tonight. Fingers crossed I manage to catch the egg and we have a blue one :)

[MiaMelb]

Sorry meoab I don't have any answers for you there. Definitely talk to your doctor and see what they say.
As for my first attempt - I got a raging (darker than the control line) positive opk with my fmu. We had already had an attempt yesterday evening but did an attempt this morning and we'll do another one tonight. Fingers crossed I manage to catch the egg and we have a blue one :)

Exciting Diva. GL.:bluesperm: :bluesperm: :bluesperm:

[LMSM]

@ TP: can’ t remember, and am sure you might have mentioned already – is your DD fully weaned from BFing? In any event, you seem to have been swaying since pregnant with her, so am sure no timing will be make or break with such a strong blue sway! ^^

@meoab – not too sure either – without a cycle it’s hard to work out what is happening when : could you wait until you have seen your Dr and worked out a way to get your cycle back before you owrry about the rest (as I mentioned progesterone is usually very effective at getting AF coming back)

@ DD – ooh exciting – FX!
Tell us how you go :)

So AF arrived today – here comes our last cycle before officially TTC (might push it another cycle, depending on when this one ends) - and hopefully we can be successful pretty quickly – so am now officially starting my full on sway :D
My luteal phase is getting back to an acceptable level – got 13 dpo this cycle, so very happy about that – maybe the pre-sway diet has helped (along with the weaning DD2)? Plus for the 1st time in a long time I actually started AF in the morning rather than late at night – which is rather pleasant , not having to try to sleep with the pain! ^^

[MiaMelb]

Oh yay very exciting to be finally getting into full sway mode LMSM! There seems to be a few blue swayers ttc at tge moment so hoping for lots of successful blue sways over the next few months.

[LMSM]

Oh yay very exciting to be finally getting into full sway mode LMSM! There seems to be a few blue swayers ttc at tge moment so hoping for lots of successful blue sways over the next few months.
Thanks Mia! :D indeed let's cross fingers for blue dust! In a way am happy we are not trying this cycle,DD2 is teething and is sick following the change of weather so it's sleepless nights for us ATM pretty much' which wouldn't be ideal for a sway..so hoping we all get a bit of sleep before we get I to the 6 weeks prior to 1st attempt hehe
Are you still at the stage of getting the info you need for your sway or have you got a tentative timing for trying #3? We need lots of Aussie blue swayers hehe

[MiaMelb]

Thanks Mia! :D indeed let's cross fingers for blue dust! In a way am happy we are not trying this cycle,DD2 is teething and is sick following the change of weather so it's sleepless nights for us ATM pretty much' which wouldn't be ideal for a sway..so hoping we all get a bit of sleep before we get I to the 6 weeks prior to 1st attempt hehe
Are you still at the stage of getting the info you need for your sway or have you got a tentative timing for trying #3? We need lots of Aussie blue swayers hehe

The weather has definately just changed and with daylight savings here too our DD2 has also been a bit thrown the last few nights. Yes I think I've nutted out our timeline for #3. I can't imagine having 3 at home logistically so want DD1 close to school age but also don't want them too far apart so will ttc this time next year. If we conceive then by the time #3 is born early 2019 DD1 will be 4.5 and DD2 almost 3. We can keep DD1 and 2 in daycare a few days a week and I can be home with #3. Then back to work 2020, DD1 will start school and DD2 and #3 can go to daycare. The cost of daycare is so astromonical that we realistically can't afford to have 3 kids going at once. I still need to loose a little weight from the last pregnacy and get some fitness back so spending the first half of this year doing that and incorporating some boy friendly foods and then will really get full swaying mid/late this year.

[boywish]

Hi ladies just catching up on what's been happening. Sorry if I miss anyone!

TP- apologies if you've covered it before - have the doctors checked your other hormones to make sure all is ok?

meaob - sorry to hear AF came [emoji20] I'm not sure about late ovulation and egg quality - I think it's all relative to cycle length if that makes sense? Have you tried acupuncture? I had great success with it when ttc my DD - shifted ovulation by 4 days.

Dancingdiva- sending you lots of blue dust! Fingers crossed for bfp!

LMSM - great news about your luteal phase increasing! I have my fingers crossed for you to for when you start trying!

As for me CD12 and opk getting darker (not quite positive yet) - much better than last month. We dtd on CD9 and are planning to again tonight. If opk is positive tomorrow should we do the 3 attempts in addition to tonight's attempt?

Good luck to all the blue swayers!


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[Throwaway_panther]

LMSM: Not actively weaning her -- she's been nightweaned and we're doing BLW, but she still nurses 4-5 times a day in varying lengths. I'm ideally going to keep nursing her for awhile longer.

Boywish: There's not really any need to check my other hormones. The thyroid is off and I have no thyroid, and the levels that are off are common causes of early miscarriages!

[shinay]

Hi everyone. I am Trina. I am a newbie here. DH and I have decided to start trying for our first baby in April/May. Yayyy! I am trying to sway for a boy if possible since I have always wanted a big brother since I was little. With that said, we would still be very happy with either gender.
My problem is that I cannot seem to pinpoint my ovulation :sad: I have used OPK to figure this out, but I am still so confused and hope you wonderful ladies could help me out.
When I get positive OPK, I can see/feel a little bit of CM at the cervix but no EWCM (sorry for TMI). And when there is EWCM, the OPK is negative...so what does it mean? Should I follow the OPK or CM? And how would I know if I actually ovulated for the cycle or not?

Also, I love salt and I always eat my food more on the salty side and lots of carbs and snacking. However, my DH tend to eat more bland and sweet stuffs (cookies, candies, milk chocolate, etc.). Would DH eating habit affect his sperm counts since I heard sweet food would produce more female sperms?

Lots of boy dusts to all of you ladies!

[MiaMelb]

Hi everyone. I am Trina. I am a newbie here. DH and I have decided to start trying for our first baby in April/May. Yayyy! I am trying to sway for a boy if possible since I have always wanted a big brother since I was little. With that said, we would still be very happy with either gender.
My problem is that I cannot seem to pinpoint my ovulation :sad: I have used OPK to figure this out, but I am still so confused and hope you wonderful ladies could help me out.
When I get positive OPK, I can see/feel a little bit of CM at the cervix but no EWCM (sorry for TMI). And when there is EWCM, the OPK is negative...so what does it mean? Should I follow the OPK or CM? And how would I know if I actually ovulated for the cycle or not?

Also, I love salt and I always eat my food more on the salty side and lots of carbs and snacking. However, my DH tend to eat more bland and sweet stuffs (cookies, candies, milk chocolate, etc.). Would DH eating habit affect his sperm counts since I heard sweet food would produce more female sperms?

Lots of boy dusts to all of you ladies!

Hey Shinay, welcome welcome.
My understanding based on what we've seen on this site DHs diet has little affect on swaying. And definately not in the way that you might be thinking, Y (male) sperm and X (female) sperm are always produced in the same ratio. There is always 1 X sperm for every 1 Y sperm produced. Men can not produce more of one than the other.
I'm not an expert on pin pointing o but I'm under the impression there is always a bit of grey area to it and that only an ultrasound can pick it properly. I think temping is supposed to give a pretty good indication (I've never done this but there are plenty of women on here who are avid tempers). In terms of opk vs CM, I'm pretty sure I've read Atomic say somewhere that it does happen that EWCM can be present on days that are not consistent with o. If you get a +opk I'd go by that.

[LMSM]

@ TP – just asking because of treatments you might need with the thyroid, not sure whether that would affect your ability to BF – but that seems to be all ok too ^^ we’ll probably be trying around the same time, then !

@ meoab – I second boywish re acupuncture – it helped me with my 1st – my cycles balanced themselves with it ;)

@boywish – good to read you ;) I’m hoping the betterment of my diet via HE is actually helping my overall fertility - ^^
What did you do in the end? I think there is no harm in DTD + those 3 attempts in case opk is positive – as long as your SO can manage that many “go’s” in a short span of time – you wouldn’t want him to run out of steam in case O is delayed a bit – so as long as you are confident he can manage all that BD! :D
FX !!

@miamelb – yeah, beautiful weather but it certainly doesn’t feel like summer anymore, especially at night, eh?! All that rain with ex Debbie sure cooled down the atmosphere – we had to get the doonas back out the other night :P
I can see you are all planned out for when to TTC for bub #3 – sounds like a perfect way to gear up for HE and co to have a great sway in place by the time you start TTC!!
I hear ya re daycare costs, it’s just ludicrous – with the 2 at the moment, I am only working 4d/w so have Fridays with them – what I lose in salary I make up by savings in daycare fees and paying less tax, more or less – plus bonus of spending time with my girls! I do have to cram 5 days’ worth of work in 4 as no one does my work whilst I am away but that is the sacrifice that has to be made, I guess ^^
If all goes to plan DD1 will start school in January – she is not automatically enrolled yet as she technically is a few weeks too young (born 30/07) but with some luck will start Prep then, so hope I can fall pregnant soon and have #3 early 2018 so can be home for her 1st year at school and only have DD2 at daycare until #3 starts too (at least part time so I can have one on one time with #3 while on mat leave) and then when going back to work, have #2 and #3 at daycare whilst DD1 is at school. It sounds terrible to have to plan like that, but you’re right, financially it’s not viable with 3 in care at the same time – and I would lose myself and my sanity being a SAHM 24/7 for years on end to be honest, it’s just not me – I am happy to do part time (would be happy with only 3 d/w but in my role that’s not feasible), that’s my happy balance – especially since we have no family at all to help, I would have no breather ever and work serves that purpose as well as being around adults/utilising my (sleep deprived) brain a bit ^^

@ Trina – welcome!
I always wanted a big brother growing up too – which is why I was so keen to have a boy 1st – but now have 2 girls haha
I would recommend, if you can, to also track your temperature – it will give you confirmation (though after the fact) of your ovulation which will allow you to be more predictive as to when you do actually ovulate.
The OPK can be positive up to 48h prior to the actual ovulation – so you may well have a positive OPK on say cycle day 12 but not ovulate until cycle day 14 or 15 – and get EWCM only the day of ovulation (some people have the fertile mucus for days others, have it only in the day before O and upon ovulation).
So I would combine the OPK and mucus – and confirm with the temp charting!
The recommendation for TTC blue is to DTD every 3 days or so from AF then upon 1st positive opk, DTD that night, next morning and following evening – so you get 3 attempts in your fertile window before that egg is gone !
I think the “male/female” sperm theory has been debunked so don’t worry about that – what you want is both of you to be at your optimal fertility which means you have to be in your best possible condition: I would read the wonderful essays Atomic has written on all this to get yourself familiar with it all – diet included - once you have done that, it will all make so much more sense than what I can convey in a few lines ;)

[LMSM]

Had trouble posting so you posted before I could load my message Mia – well we agree for Trina’s sake so that is good ^^

[shinay]

Thanks Mia & LMSM. It is good that i don't have to worry too much about DH diet. I have been using BCP for the past five years, went off it last September so i could start tracking my temp but it is so weird...sometimes i can see the patterns (the dip and rise in temp after ovulations) but there are months where it just fluctuates up and down.And also my cycle length are mostly 30-31 days then it suddenly went to 45 days....not sure if BCP has messed up my body or i was stressing out since i just started to learn all these new things about my body and all these TTC stuffs. Since this is our first, i will just try my best with diet, temp and CM and see where things go. I will try to not go crazy on the sway thing and scare my DH hahaha.
My in-law family doesnt have girls for a few generations so they wouldnt mind having a girl for a change if my sway fails. But for now, i want my big boy first!

@LMSM: girls are so much fun as well. I bet your girls are amazing! You can do all the girly stuffs together. And there are lots of things that is better/easier to share with daughters.

And i am sorry if there is any error or unclear sentences as English is my second language.

[Throwaway_panther]

LMSM: Treatments are just tweaking my thyroid meds! Which are class A and don't affect pregnancy or breastfeeding. Which is good, because I'd be dead without them haha. So hopefully we will be getting our boys together! I saw your take on work -- that's totally me. Being solely a SAHM was never my plan, but being a WAHM is also way harder than I thought it would be. So nice to see you found a good balance!

[Bommy_7]

How many ladies are trying this month? AF is due Sunday and I am so nervous and excited to do our first attempt. Ahh!!!

[shinay]

How many ladies are trying this month? AF is due Sunday and I am so nervous and excited to do our first attempt. Ahh!!!

AF is due in about a week for me. I will be trying this month as well...so excited and nervous at the same time.

Hopefully, lots of baby blue dusts for us, Bommy

[Throwaway_panther]

I'm torn between wanting to try knowing my thyroid levels are so close to normal that they might already be normal based on the weeks on my new dose (and being slightly hypo seems to sway blue), or waiting more until May/June. This sounds dumb, but a June conception date would put me at 29 for having my next kid, and really make my dream of "done by 30" out of reach.

I realize how weird all of this sounds lol

[Bommy_7]

I wanted to wait a little longer but now I'm at the point where I want to try. I did want to at least make it to 2018 so I think we will take the dive! Blue dust to all of you guys trying soon!

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[shinay]

I wanted to wait a little longer but now I'm at the point where I want to try. I did want to at least make it to 2018 so I think we will take the dive! Blue dust to all of you guys trying soon!

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You just said what I feel...I want to just be pregnant already since I love babies so much and can't wait to have our bundle of joy. But at the same time, I feel like I haven't prepared enough for the sway. Probably since this is our first, it makes me a bit more nervous about the whole thing.

And i think i should avoid reading any GD threads since I am afraid that I will feel the same way if I don't get what I want. And being a wife to oldest son in Asian family, I feel like my husband and his family would prefer a boy first which also puts a lot more pressure on me. DH said that he would be fine with either, but I know he really wants a boy first.

I am trying to be calm but quietly freaking out at the same time if it makes sense.

[LMSM]

FX ladies! Really would love to try this month too BUT need to give myself the best possible chance at my sway..plus, I rrally don't want to be heavily pregnant and possibly giving birth when DD1 starts prep (want to be there without her having to worry about a new sibling in the first days/weeks of school) , so ideally if I could have a due aye early March (probably would have Bub end of Feb) that would be per-fect! Hence waiting till the end of May :D
Will live the beginnings by proxy via you guys hehe

[LMSM]

Having said that, the hyper planner in me ..and I know this is cookoo- found a bargain bundle maternity clothes ( sold most of mine as thought if we had a. Third I would be a few essentials to add to my now small existing bundle) so bought it already in anticipation of a round belly soon! Oops :giggle::bigsmile:

[Throwaway_panther]

Having said that, the hyper planner in me ..and I know this is cookoo- found a bargain bundle maternity clothes ( sold most of mine as thought if we had a. Third I would be a few essentials to add to my now small existing bundle) so bought it already in anticipation of a round belly soon! Oops :giggle::bigsmile:

Haha, it doesn't sound coocoo at all. I'm already planning a corner of our bedroom out as a nursery nook for future DS! I have a theme and paint colors picked out lol

[Bommy_7]

I have been looking up maternity capsule wardrobes since I too will need to get most new stuff. I really hope to keep my weight under control for my pregnancy so I can hopefully still use some clothes that I have now.

I feel you all with planning. My personal issue is I have been loosely following the boy diet for several months and know that waiting any more will just add to my anxiety. I was originally planning to start trying last summer and I feel like its now or never. So I have been deep in this for almost a year and Just need to jump in and give it a go.

[honeybee]

I'm trying this month! We've been trying off and on for our second since last March. My DD (swayed blue then too) will be two next month. We would love to complete our family with a little boy, but I also just want to get pregnant at this point. I secretly wanted a girl the first time, but swayed blue for hubs.

[dancingdiva88]

Hi ladies! I tried this month - currently 6dpo. Guess we'll see in another week if this was the month. If not attempt cycle #2 will will be on the cards.

[Throwaway_panther]

Crossing my fingers for you DD!

I'm really feeling an urge to try this month. Almost a manic drive that *this* is my month. Very unusual feeling for me, but I feel like I'm second guessing it. Hmm.

[boywish]

@Dancingdiva - Crossing my fingers for you dancing diva!

@shinay - good luck with your attempt this month! I agree with the info the other ladies have given in regards to opks and DH diet.

@LMSM I believe the HE diet definitely does help fertility. Fingers crossed it works for you! I can totally relate to wanting to give yourself the best chance at your sway - it's such a hard thing as I worry about struggling to fall pregnant vs giving my best to swaying!

@honeybee good luck with your attempt this month!

@Bommy_7 I hope AF stays away for you! Fingers crossed for bfp

@TP - it's a hard decision to make but if you are comfortable with how your thyroid levels are and so is your endo I guess it wouldn't hurt try?

AFM - we have attempted this month - we couldn't do the 3 attempts at ovulation (only did 2) so that worries me but whatever will be will be. Now officially in the 2ww - I found out quite early with DD and had quite obvious signs so I can see myself getting anxious and trying to symptom spot - need to keep myself busy!

[MsMarie89]

Awww so many ladies trying or about to try!! I'm so jealous! I could go back and forth all day about wanting to just try in a month or two or waiting till this fall and having my best sway. Such a hard decision!!

Good luck dancingdiva!!

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[Bommy_7]

Good luck Dancing diva! AF started today so officially CD1! I just got back from my sister inlaws baby shower last night and man the baby fever is in full force lol. I am kinda excited about a January baby because I get the post Christmas blues and it would be really cool to have a baby birthday to look forward to!

[shinay]

Goodluck dancingdiva and boywish...Hope it will be sticky blue beans for you guys this month!

I was planning for this month, so if we are lucky, I could give my husband this wonderful present for our anniversary. But this is probably not our month. We will need to move pretty soon, so I dont wanna be too stressed out about everything. Well i guess the good thing is I will have more time to prepare myself for this.

[shinay]

Good luck Dancing diva! AF started today so officially CD1! I just got back from my sister inlaws baby shower last night and man the baby fever is in full force lol. I am kinda excited about a January baby because I get the post Christmas blues and it would be really cool to have a baby birthday to look forward to!

Yay! Bommy. Keep us posted. Crossing my fingers for you!

[LMSM]

@DD – yeah! FX for a blue BFP for you ^^

@TP – hard to let go of such feelings - when are you expecting to O? :D

@boywish – yes, if I was uber fertile I would not worry as much I think, but given my issues I really want to give my body the best chance at getting pregnant and if that helps with a blue sway, all the better - I think I have come to terms with a potential DD3 so hope that Karma will give me what suits my family best, and soon (and well, if it’s a blue bundle would be the icing on the cake) ^^
Crossing fingers for you too now, then! How many DPO are you ?

@MsMarie – you’re not alne with all this oh and ahing - I find that once you have a rough plan as to when to try , it’s like your body and its primal urge to reproduce takes over and it’s.all.you.can.think.of lol At least that is the way I feel – I may not be trying until mid-end of May – depending on my cycle – but man does it feel far away!

@Bommy – yeah for AF! Plenty of baby dust to you – did you fall pregnant easily last time?

@Honeybee – hoping for a BFP for you soon too then ! ;)

@ Shinay –when is your AF due? You could still have a BFP for your hubby - and come what may ;)

Thanks for making me feel less like a madwoman gathering stuff in anticipation of a future pregnancy – on the other hand I feel like preparing for it it like it will definitely happen sets my mind in the right place..don’t you think? lol
My thermometer died the other day, and had to order a basal one but probably won’t get it on time to be useful this cycle – so will have to rely on opks solely this cycle to track when I do O – so maybe a good thing to have another full cycle after this one to ensure I am regular and know when to expect O to time our attempts as well as possible and don’t get DH running out of steam before attempt time ..
Have ordered my guanafesin (sp?) – some extra folate (the proper folate not just folic acid) and nutritional yeast flakes too – so with that on top of my now usual regimen, I hope that this body will be BLUE ready haha

[Bommy_7]

LMSM It took me one month for each of my DDs. I don't know that my age will make a difference. I was 26 and 28 with my last two. I am 31 nos so I know its not old but I just wonder if it would take more time but I really hope not. I'm trying to keep myself from not stressing about the weight gain, but it so hard! I hope we all get our BFPs this month!

[boywish]

So think I'm out this month I'm 8dpo and feeling AF pains [emoji20] I had really obvious symptoms with DD - acne/gas etc and nothing so far... AF due Wednesday but i feel like it's gonna come early.

Fingers crossed for everyone else trying this month!


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[dancingdiva88]

Boywish- you never know until AF shows...or doesn't show!
I'm crazy with gas the last 3 days (and ridiculously stinky!) Hahaha and had gross cysty type pimples for the last 4-5 days (both are probably progesterone related as I'm taking progesterone pessaries though.) However, I did have a lot of gas before my bfp with my DD. Not feeling like this is my month though. Currently 11dpo and had a stark white negative at 9dpo.

[boywish]

Boywish- you never know until AF shows...or doesn't show!
I'm crazy with gas the last 3 days (and ridiculously stinky!) Hahaha and had gross cysty type pimples for the last 4-5 days (both are probably progesterone related as I'm taking progesterone pessaries though.) However, I did have a lot of gas before my bfp with my DD. Not feeling like this is my month though. Currently 11dpo and had a stark white negative at 9dpo.

Thanks dancingdiva!

Gas & acne were my my major symptoms & what caused me to test with DD so I'm hoping it's good news for you too! I have everything crossed for a bfp for you!

[boywish]

I'm pretty sure I'm out - looks like AF has just started [emoji26] I'm starting to believe something is wrong with my LP phase - previous months has been 8-9 days with + opk on d17. This month I had +opk d13 so thought my LP would be longer but nope! Going to chat to GP about getting progesterone I think.

If anyone else has any advice im all ears


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[Throwaway_panther]

Boywish- you never know until AF shows...or doesn't show!
I'm crazy with gas the last 3 days (and ridiculously stinky!) Hahaha and had gross cysty type pimples for the last 4-5 days (both are probably progesterone related as I'm taking progesterone pessaries though.) However, I did have a lot of gas before my bfp with my DD. Not feeling like this is my month though. Currently 11dpo and had a stark white negative at 9dpo.

9 DPO is really early for a BFP though! Have you tested again since? When is AF due for you?

[dancingdiva88]

Got my bfp this morning 12dpo! Very clear line - not a squinter at all. Hoping it's my blue sticky bean!

[cosmosis]

Got my bfp this morning 12dpo! Very clear line - not a squinter at all. Hoping it's my blue sticky bean!

CONGRATS!! :D So excited for you!

[dancingdiva88]

Thanks Cosmo! I see you've hit the start of the 2nd trimester? Do you know what you're having yet?

[cosmosis]

Thanks Cosmo! I see you've hit the start of the 2nd trimester? Do you know what you're having yet?

Yeah, I'm so glad and I hope all this fatigue and nausea go away lol. I don't know what I'm having yet. I'm trying to get in for a scan on Tuesday just to be sure there's only 1 in there. If there is, I'll probably go team green :D

[boywish]

Got my bfp this morning 12dpo! Very clear line - not a squinter at all. Hoping it's my blue sticky bean!

OMG congratulations dancingdiva [emoji4]!! Fantastic news! Knew your symptoms were a positive sign. Fingers crossed for a blue bundle!


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[LMSM]

Congrats DD!!! Fx for a blue sticky bean indeed! ;) looking forward to hearing more :D
I see you are taking progesterone pessaries...may I ask why? My doc will only give me some upon getting my BFP, whereas with my 1st (different doctor) I took from O onwards, especially after starting medicated cycles.
If you uber fertile ladies could give your recipe for BFP so quickly, would love it haha

[MsMarie89]

How exciting! Congrats dancing diva!! Fx for a blue sticky!!


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[dancingdiva88]

@LMSM - I had spotting with my DD at 7 weeks and was put on progesterone pessaries until end of first trimester. For this BFP, I tracked my cycles for 4 cycles before trying to conceive and found my LP had shortened from 12 days before DD to now 11 days. My RE wasn't happy with this as he said implantation occurs anywhere between 6-10 days and your lining would already be starting to break down at 10dpo. So he put me on them to have from O and now I'll stay on them until the end of the first trimester based on what happened with DD.
I honestly can't tell you how we got this BFP on our first attempt - I believe the HE diet and buttloads of lemon water personally.

[MiaMelb]

Got my bfp this morning 12dpo! Very clear line - not a squinter at all. Hoping it's my blue sticky bean!

Oh wow that's amazing news. Hope this is a very sticky bean for you. Any given your vast knowledge of the HE lifestyle fx it's your little boy too.

[LMSM]

That's great you can have the progesterone support from conception that way Bub has the best chances of being sticky :D
Can't wait to hear about the rest of your new adventure :) it's encouraging for me to see that you conceived easily this time ..give some me hope with the diet I might stand a chance of conceiving naturally this time :D
Here s to hoping the other TTCers here will get a BFP this month :)

[boywish]

So I think I spoke too early - bleeding fizzled out to nothing so I took a hpt this morning and we have a BFP!!! [emoji15]
The bleeding does worry me somewhat - hoping it was implantation bleeding - will see GP for bloods after Easter break here - AF due Wed fingers crossed she stays away!

Happy Easter to those who celebrate!


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[dancingdiva88]

@boywish - gah!!!! Congrats! It seemed to be the easter weekend for bfps!

[LMSM]

Wow, congrats Boywish! Hope you can get some reassurance with regards to that bleeding and a following serene pregnancy !
Definitely must be something in the air :D who's the next TTCer to Test? :D

[boywish]

@dancingdiva & @LMSM thank you! There must definitely be something in the air! Hopefully all is ok - I had a bleed with DD at 6 weeks and all was ok - hopefully this is the same - I will admit I'm nervous though. Will keep doing hpts till I can get into see the GP & have bloods done


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[MiaMelb]

So I think I spoke too early - bleeding fizzled out to nothing so I took a hpt this morning and we have a BFP!!! [emoji15]
The bleeding does worry me somewhat - hoping it was implantation bleeding - will see GP for bloods after Easter break here - AF due Wed fingers crossed she stays away!

Happy Easter to those who celebrate!


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Oh yay, congratulations of your bfp!!! So good to see a few blue swayers getting bfp lately. Hope this settles into a healthy pregnancy for you.

[Bommy_7]

Got my bfp this morning 12dpo! Very clear line - not a squinter at all. Hoping it's my blue sticky bean!

Yay! Congrats! I am starting OPKS this week! AH. I am so excited and nervous. how is everyone else doing?

[Bommy_7]

So I think I spoke too early - bleeding fizzled out to nothing so I took a hpt this morning and we have a BFP!!! [emoji15]
The bleeding does worry me somewhat - hoping it was implantation bleeding - will see GP for bloods after Easter break here - AF due Wed fingers crossed she stays away!

Happy Easter to those who celebrate!


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Congrats! With my first I totally thought I started my period then it fizzled out and I got a BFP! I hope ti sticks!

[MsMarie89]

Congrats boywish! All these bfps are so exciting! Wishing you all happy, healthy, and hopefully blue!


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[boywish]

Thanks everyone! Had my bloods done yesterday and they were 68 - makes me slightly nervous as they were higher with DD at the same time. Seeing GP tomorrow and will ask to do another set. Appointment with on isn't until 8 weeks - I hate the waiting part!

Have my fingers crossed for more blue swayers BFPs!


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[Bommy_7]

so dumb question but is this posative?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170419/2fe11afe1b68e7122cead43c23de4386.jpg

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[LMSM]

Boywish, how many days post ovulation are you? 68 is not an issue in itself, it will depend on cinetic of numbers (pattern of growth). Keep us posted! (DD1 was 82 at 12/13dpo and 72 for DD2 at 12dpo..what matters is that the numbers rise harmoniously ..that early gestation, doubling every 48-72h ).

Homme..that's looking pretty darn close/already positive (sorrynam on my phone so can't see pic all that well). Exciting!! ;) sounds like BD is on the cards for you :D

[Bommy_7]

So I know this is going to be TMI sorry. So I am pretty sure that's a positive and I'm super surprised to see it in CD10. SO DH and I tried to DTD this morning and he ended up having performance anxiety and couldn't do it. So Now I don't know what to do. We have been DTD every other day and of course today he is having trubble. What worries me more is we DTD on CD8 and now I have a positive OPK today (CD10) but If we cant get more than one attempt in I will be crushed. Any advice? Should we just scrap this month?????

[MsMarie89]

@bommy- that looks positive to me! Since you already had one attempt maybe you should still try to get in two more? Did you tell dh you had a postitive opk and that gave him the anxiety? Maybe try bd tonight without bringing anything up about ttc?


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[Bommy_7]

@bommy- that looks positive to me! Since you already had one attempt maybe you should still try to get in two more? Did you tell dh you had a postitive opk and that gave him the anxiety? Maybe try bd tonight without bringing anything up about ttc?


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That's the plan. We are not super active I know TMI our normal is like once or twice a week. So this has been a bit of an adujstment. I am going to try tonight I really hope we can do two tonight.

[Bommy_7]

Also is it weird to get a positive at CD10? I normally O around CD 14 but this must be early???

[cosmosis]

You have to give him time to rest, two times in one evening is a bit much and he won't be giving you many swimmers. Try tonight and again tomorrow morning.

[MiaMelb]

So I know this is going to be TMI sorry. So I am pretty sure that's a positive and I'm super surprised to see it in CD10. SO DH and I tried to DTD this morning and he ended up having performance anxiety and couldn't do it. So Now I don't know what to do. We have been DTD every other day and of course today he is having trubble. What worries me more is we DTD on CD8 and now I have a positive OPK today (CD10) but If we cant get more than one attempt in I will be crushed. Any advice? Should we just scrap this month?????

The BD part is the only thing that concerns me about the boy sway. Think mostly because it's one part that ultimately is out of my control. DP has been known to have a bit of performance anxiety when we are ttc, no issues any other time so have definitely decided to keep the opk part to myself. We have 2 kids under 3 so we are probably only averaging 1-2 BD sessions a week also so just finding time to increase to every other day will be tricky but fun. I'd try and get another attempt in, given BD attempts isn't everything, especially if you're feeling confident with your diet.

[Bommy_7]

thanks everyone for talking me off the ledge. I'm not going to stress about it and focus on getting another attempt tonight.

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[Bommy_7]

The BD part is the only thing that concerns me about the boy sway. Think mostly because it's one part that ultimately is out of my control. DP has been known to have a bit of performance anxiety when we are ttc, no issues any other time so have definitely decided to keep the opk part to myself. We have 2 kids under 3 so we are probably only averaging 1-2 BD sessions a week also so just finding time to increase to every other day will be tricky but fun. I'd try and get another attempt in, given BD attempts isn't everything, especially if you're feeling confident with your diet.
I feel ya too with the kids making it hard to did so much for us as well. I'm trying not to stress about it but I've always been super type a so I pick apart everything.

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[LMSM]

Now on the computer – I can see the pic better: definitely looks positive! it could be you won’t ovulate until CD12 ish – depending on when the surge actually started (you could have caught it just as LH started to surge) – so not that weird… especially if you usually ovulate around CD14. The diet may have helped with it too?
Definitely don’t try to cram in 2 attempts especially if hubby has had performance anxiety – like Cosmosis said, one at night then one the next morning if possible… ;)

If you have changed your BD regime just recently – he probably feels pressured to perform regardless of whether you tell him it’s attempt time or not : that’s why we have gradually increased our BD to be aligned with the pattern I want for when we start TTC soon. He won’t feel “surprised” that I suddenly am all over him – when I weaned almost 2 months ago now, my libido got waaay better anyways so not an issue to up the ante so to speak – so maybe if this month doesn’t work for you, trying easing into the new BD pattern, IYKWIM?

[Sumbal]

I am on CD-5, and I am planning for this month ttc baby boy. Can any body tell me that coconut oil can be used as a lubricant? I dont know either preseed is available in my country or not.

[shinay]

I am on CD-5, and I am planning for this month ttc baby boy. Can any body tell me that coconut oil can be used as a lubricant? I dont know either preseed is available in my country or not.

I dont know about using coconut as lubricant but i find that drinking lots of lemon water help with producing a lot more CM. goodluck with your ttc. Keep us updated. Fx for you!

[Skyblue]

Hi all. This is our second ttc boy cycle. How is everyone doing?
I wanted to ask a quick question. How soon after stable smiley can you BD? Using the advanced Clearblue opk. Appreciate any input.
I got mine this morning. [emoji4]


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[Sumbal]

I am also new here. But to my understanding, there should be three consective bd, night of positive OPK then next day morning and night again.

Lots of blue dust on your way

[Sumbal]

I dont know about using coconut as lubricant but i find that drinking lots of lemon water help with producing a lot more CM. goodluck with your ttc. Keep us updated. Fx for you!

Thank you so much.

[Sumbal]

One more question flax seeds sway blue? If yes then how to take it?

[Sumbal]

On CD6. Excite and nervous. Because I may ovulate on new moon phase.

[Bommy_7]

So I got my cross hairs today! By this chart I got only two attempts so I an hopeful!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170422/526d3425c75b75dfbb7836163bbd94b3.jpg

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[Bommy_7]

I'm kinda surprised I O'd that early

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[LMSM]

FX Bommy!!! :D
Welcome Sumbal! I think Atomic now recommends avoiding flax seeds (a bit in food is ok but supplementing not ok)... ;)

This swaying thing has an impact on all levels..just dreamt last night we went for the NT scan , and they only managed one pic because all machines suddenly broke dozwn..but they said, don't worry come back tomorrow you ll be able to see your healthy little boy ( the place I go for ob scans does the Nipt test and intend to get the nipt when expecting ^^)... sô weird, but am hoping it's my bodys' way of saying "it's ok, it will happen!"
@cookoo Mumma haha

[MiaMelb]

Fx for you too Bommy. The stats show the 2 attempts still increase your chances of a boy so hopefully that and a few HE lifestyle factors will help. Looking forward to hearing when you poas.

[Sumbal]

CD-8. Ovulation coming closer. I don't know exactly when ll ovulate. Will start OPK from CD-9. Once I got pregnant in November 2016 on CD-11, but got misscarriage. So by this calculation, it seems that I ovulate early like on CD-11 or CD12. Excited but nervous also. Please send lots of blue dust to me. Also suggest anything important for my sway.

[kat1234]

Can anyone chim in as to what vitamins you are taking? We are planning to start trying in June so prepping this week to start next week with diet. I've read folate, a multi vitamin and maybe calcium? I'm 35 so I think she mentioned 2,000 of folate?


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[ELP]

My essentials sway supplements are wheatgrass in whatever form you can afford, fish oil, womens one a day and vitamin D 1000ug :) These boost all your nutrients but don't mess around with your hormones as far as I know:) And of course a folate or folic acid for a healthy baby of any gender x

[meoab]

Women one a day, probiotics, folate and Coq10. Should I take any more?

[kat1234]

Women one a day, probiotics, folate and Coq10. Should I take any more?

That's exactly what Atomic told me to take :)


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[Sumbal]

I am on CD-9, when should start OPK? Cycle 29-30 days. And once got pregnant on CD-11. Please suggest.

[shinay]

I am on CD-9, when should start OPK? Cycle 29-30 days. And once got pregnant on CD-11. Please suggest.

I would suggest you to start testing today. And as the line getting darker or when you see more CM, increase the frequency of testing maybe 2-3 times a day to make sure that you dont miss your LH surge

[Sumbal]

I would suggest you to start testing today. And as the line getting darker or when you see more CM, increase the frequency of testing maybe 2-3 times a day to make sure that you dont miss your LH surge

Okay THank you. I will start from today. Till now I do not have any CM

[Sumbal]

Please send me blue dust???????


Also please tell me that on what time I should test OPK?

[MiaMelb]

Please send me blue dust???????


Also please tell me that on what time I should test OPK?

Most of us swaying blue have only/many girls so don't have the blue dust to give unfortunately. Think we're all pretty keen to have some blue dust, better raid the pink sway forum:rofl:

[Sumbal]

I got positive OPK today on CD-9. How this can be possible that I ovulate so early. When to DTD?

[shinay]

I got positive OPK today on CD-9. How this can be possible that I ovulate so early. When to DTD?

Every cycle is different...maybe you are stressed which also change your ovulation day. If you want more response, I think you could create a new thread and maybe post your chart so others could see and give you better feedback?

[Bommy_7]

I got positive OPK today on CD-9. How this can be possible that I ovulate so early. When to DTD?

DTD today. I O'd on CD 10 this cycle so it is totally possible to O earlier. Try for 3 attempts in the next 48 hours!

[Bommy_7]

I got positive OPK today on CD-9. How this can be possible that I ovulate so early. When to DTD?

DTD today. I O'd on CD 10 this cycle so it is totally possible to O earlier. Try for 3 attempts in the next 48 hours!

[Sumbal]

DTD today. I O'd on CD 10 this cycle so it is totally possible to O earlier. Try for 3 attempts in the next 48 hours!

Once I conceived on CD-11 that got miscarriage. Is mean my fertility starts at CD 9 and I ovulate on CD 11?

[kat1234]

Does anyone on here have a sweet tooth? And if so what are you eating that's Blue friendly but sweet?? Any fruits ok?


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[Bommy_7]

Once I conceived on CD-11 that got miscarriage. Is mean my fertility starts at CD 9 and I ovulate on CD 11?

you generally ovulate about 12 to 36 hours after a positive OPK so CD 11 is very likely! Good luck!

[MiaMelb]

Does anyone on here have a sweet tooth? And if so what are you eating that's Blue friendly but sweet?? Any fruits ok?


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Definately seen blue swayers tuck into some full fat icecream or dark chocolate from time to time. Frozen yogurt maybe?

[MsMarie89]

Does anyone on here have a sweet tooth? And if so what are you eating that's Blue friendly but sweet?? Any fruits ok?


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I certainly have a sweet tooth! I've just been trying to make healthier choices while fulfilling my sweet tooth and pairing it with other foods that are good for my sway. Examples are a dark chocolate bar that has almonds in it, I've been making my own trail mix with different nuts and then some dark chocolate in there, or fruit with some dark choc drizzle. I also do a green smoothie almost everyday and it's so sweet I feel like it's a huge treat! I use coconut water as the liquid, Big handfuls of spinach and kale, a small spoon full of homemade almond butter and then a small handful of frozen berries. So yummy!


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[kat1234]

I certainly have a sweet tooth! I've just been trying to make healthier choices while fulfilling my sweet tooth and pairing it with other foods that are good for my sway. Examples are a dark chocolate bar that has almonds in it, I've been making my own trail mix with different nuts and then some dark chocolate in there, or fruit with some dark choc drizzle. I also do a green smoothie almost everyday and it's so sweet I feel like it's a huge treat! I use coconut water as the liquid, Big handfuls of spinach and kale, a small spoon full of homemade almond butter and then a small handful of frozen berries. So yummy!


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Thank you!! That sounds good!



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[Sumbal]

I need help everyone.

I got strong positive OPK yesterday at 8 pm on CD 9. But for some reason could not bed yesterday. Today I got faint test line on OPK but dtd on am. I checked opk again at 8 pm but still it's negative. I am having gas pain in my lower right side. I don't know what's going on. Anyone can guide me?

[Bommy_7]

I need help everyone.

I got strong positive OPK yesterday at 8 pm on CD 9. But for some reason could not bed yesterday. Today I got faint test line on OPK but dtd on am. I checked opk again at 8 pm but still it's negative. I am having gas pain in my lower right side. I don't know what's going on. Anyone can guide me?

So your surge has ended so you are probably ovulating today. try to get another attempt in tonight if you can.

[MiaMelb]

Agree with Bommy, try get a second attempt in. Even 2 attempts is more blue friendly than 1.

[Sumbal]

35954

Here is my chart till today.

[MiaMelb]

35954

Here is my chart till today.

You should post this in the 2ww thread with the ladies there, they're great at analysing charts and will be eagerly be egging you on to poas.

[Sumbal]

You should post this in the 2ww thread with the ladies there, they're great at analysing charts and will be eagerly be egging you on to poas.

Okay Thank you so much :)

[Sumbal]

Also can anybody guide me that How I can add my information on the signature area? Enjoying on this site :)

[MiaMelb]

Also can anybody guide me that How I can add my information on the signature area? Enjoying on this site :)

I'm using the web version so up the top in the right hand corner is "Settings" in there is a tab to "Edit signature". I like when people have a signature, reminds you where people are coming from when they make particular comments or give their perspective.

[Sumbal]

Yes exactly. I am gonna do it. Great :bighug:

[LMSM]

ELP...are you back because ttc is on the cards? :D

Sumbal, concur with all what the ladies said...hope you got another attempt in ;)

How are our newly pregnant blue swayers?

I am eagerly waiting for my period to arrive so we can get into attempt time :D probably by the end of the week, early next week at the latest .. so Exciitiingggg!
Need to get my bum into gear with some weights, just too exhausted after work, kids etc..sigh

[kat1234]

So I went back and read the majority of these posts to get to know y'all! Seems like there are 2 recent preggos?! Anyways, I just started swaying this week and hopefully will start trying late May, but might be after that. I have 2 girls, 6 and 3 and would love a 3rd baby. I think it would be fun to have a boy, hence swaying, but would be happy with a girl as well. My husband is still 50/50 about having another baby so that's why I'm not sure when (or if) we'd try, but knowing him he'll spring on me next month he's ready and I want to be ready sway wise too versus waiting to sway until he's ready. And this HE diet is better for me versus my girl friendly/low calorie normal. It's VERY hard for me to not freak out about the fat/calories though, ha! Anyways, I'm hoping we can chat since swaying/baby stuff is on my mind a lot and I don't want to drive my husband crazy [emoji854]


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[LMSM]

Woohoo, AF just arrived this morning (2nd cycle in a row I get over 12DPO and have AF start in the morning rather than at night) – hoping it’s a sign that my fertility has improved - if so, thanks HE :D
This means, we are officially in our 1st attempt cycle – so nervous and excited all at once!! ^^

@Kat – you’re more than welcome to share with us – one thing is for sure, we can certainly understand hehe
Re calories, it doesn’t have to be obscene amounts of food – you’re much better off anyways eating plenty but balanced with lots of nutrient dense foods - yes, you should eat full fat (dairy etc), but HE doesn’t mean binging out…
If you increase your intakes gradually and ensure you never go hungry and fill up on the good stuff, it will be easy, promise! Plus, the idea with the HE diet is to make a change from your normal diet – so if you barely ate, increasing amounts/quality of foods will already have an effect ;)

[Bommy_7]

well it looks like I am out this month... Huge temp drop today at 13 dpo. I think I am going to try to skip next month because We have a lot a February birthdays in my family. Heres on to june!

[ELP]

ELP...are you back because ttc is on the cards? :D



Lol!!:bigsmile: I do not know!! I just can't keep away:) I should be done, I really should but its so hard to switch it off. We are getting a puppy this month so hopefully she will help me keep my cravings under control for a few months, so many jobs to do around this house before I could allow myself to drift back into that happy pregnancy place:bigsmile: xx

[ELP]

Welcome kat:) and sorry it wasn't your month Bommy, June should be a great month, it would give you a nice comfortable bump over the xmas period!

[ELP]

My essentials sway supplements are wheatgrass in whatever form you can afford, fish oil, womens one a day and vitamin D 1000ug :) These boost all your nutrients but don't mess around with your hormones as far as I know:) And of course a folate or folic acid for a healthy baby of any gender x

Just wanted to add also that Atomic is reviewing the way wheatgrass is used, I think an occasional use is being seen as best policy atm, will keep you posted of any news!

[TtcBlue18]

I see the Wheatgrass being used a lot, what is it for? How does it help boy swaying?

[ELP]

It is a great nutrient boost to top up your vitamins and minerals so worth researching, I think that Atomic is looking into if in fact too much of it can lean pink so maybe before adding it in as its quite expensive see what the current recommendations are :)

[TtcBlue18]

I already have a very wide range of vitamins through diet and I take prenatal vitamins since they have larger amounts than regular multivitamins, so is this something that's not necessary for me, or is it pretty much a must for boy swaying?

[meoab]

What larger amounts exactly ttcblur? I am taking Womens one a day orange one.

[LMSM]

well it looks like I am out this month... Huge temp drop today at 13 dpo. I think I am going to try to skip next month because We have a lot a February birthdays in my family. Heres on to june!

Oh Bommy, shoot :( did AF arrive?

[LMSM]

Lol!!:bigsmile: I do not know!! I just can't keep away:) I should be done, I really should but its so hard to switch it off. We are getting a puppy this month so hopefully she will help me keep my cravings under control for a few months, so many jobs to do around this house before I could allow myself to drift back into that happy pregnancy place:bigsmile: xx

Haha..so if another isn't truly on the agenda- for now- let's hope your new puppy will alleviate the craving for growing another bubba (I am soooo scared I will never be able to tell myself, this is it.,and I only have two! Hubby is ok for 3, mayyybe 4).

[LMSM]

It is a great nutrient boost to top up your vitamins and minerals so worth researching, I think that Atomic is looking into if in fact too much of it can lean pink so maybe before adding it in as its quite expensive see what the current recommendations are :)

That actually suits me, as I t's expensive..and man, it tastes so foul so if I can get a few doses 3 times a week I reckon that is the most I can stomach anyways..so if it is better that way as blue sway tactic, alllll the better :bluecheer:

[TtcBlue18]

What larger amounts exactly ttcblur? I am taking Womens one a day orange one.

Well prenatal vitamins have slightly larger amounts of all vitamins and I think even has some that most vitamins don't contain since pregnancy requires more.. I know atomic has posted suggesting women's once a day, but I already had prenatals hanging around :)

[NewPreggie]

Hi everyone!! I found out that my sway worked!! Just thought I'd share with you all what I did and wish you all blue dust!!

[Skyblue]

Wow. Congratulations. Where can we see your sway?

[Skyblue]

I just found New Preggie. Thankyou for sharing. Did u use opks?

[kat1234]

Thanks for sharing NewPreggie! Definitely nice to hear! Would love to hear from ones that it didn't work too so I don't let my hopes get too high [emoji12]


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[LMSM]

Congrats NewPreggie – you must be elated! I can’t even imagine the joy after a sway to get the outcome you wanted – a healthy baby boy :D
In fact, I am gearing myself towards just having a third girl when we do fall pregnant, to avoid “disappointment” in not having a son (because, especially when I see my girls, how could I ever be disappointed in having them?!) – so can’t even imagine the realisation of actually be having a son ^^
Your sway was pretty good so it gives me hope and encourages me to continue my sway...though like you Kat, I am cautious and would like to keep my head level and not get too excited, as no method is a guarantee… :D


Speaking of sway – I think I have a thrush infection and had to get a pessary and cream (used last night and no difference so far) – I am on CD8 so not testing for O yet, but would like to be back in the game asap as can’t dtd (too uncomfortable for me anyways) atm – any suggestions/remedies that may be blue friendly too?

[MsMarie89]

Congrats NewPreggie – you must be elated! I can’t even imagine the joy after a sway to get the outcome you wanted – a healthy baby boy :D
In fact, I am gearing myself towards just having a third girl when we do fall pregnant, to avoid “disappointment” in not having a son (because, especially when I see my girls, how could I ever be disappointed in having them?!) – so can’t even imagine the realisation of actually be having a son ^^
Your sway was pretty good so it gives me hope and encourages me to continue my sway...though like you Kat, I am cautious and would like to keep my head level and not get too excited, as no method is a guarantee… :D


Speaking of sway – I think I have a thrush infection and had to get a pessary and cream (used last night and no difference so far) – I am on CD8 so not testing for O yet, but would like to be back in the game asap as can’t dtd (too uncomfortable for me anyways) atm – any suggestions/remedies that may be blue friendly too?

I am exactly like you, gearing myself up towards a third princess! Having another baby will be amazing no matter what and having a boy would just be delightful.

Oh gosh! So sorry to hear of the thrush! I've only got a yeast infection when I was pregnant and I used the monistat 7 day and it cleared it up! Hope you are feeling better soon!


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[kat1234]

LMSM - I have no advice to clear it up but were you planing to start trying this month? Maybe you can get it cleared up in time.

MsMarie - When are you planning to start?

I'm on CD3 and hoping to try this month if my hubby is on board [emoji846] That'd be as early as next Wed that I'd be fertile. I'm really hoping to just use opks as I really don't want to start temping. I guess after a couple months I'll add that if needed though.

If I do conceive I would have only been swaying food wise for 4 weeks though. Started doing weights after my 2nd daughter was born.

Anyone else gearing up this month?


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[shinay]

Kat1234: i am trying this month as well. I am using the opk as well...it is very close to my O day so i test 2-3 times a day to make sure that i dont miss the surge. I think i might have stressed out about this so O is delayed. So furstrating. Hopefully positive opk today!

[LMSM]

I am exactly like you, gearing myself up towards a third princess! Having another baby will be amazing no matter what and having a boy would just be delightful.

Oh gosh! So sorry to hear of the thrush! I've only got a yeast infection when I was pregnant and I used the monistat 7 day and it cleared it up! Hope you are feeling better soon!


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Thanks MsMarie ;)
We’ll have to hope we all get our boys here :D agree healthy is just the absolute most important: I’ve seen the toll of illness or disability, and for me it’s certainly not having a son at “all costs” – so helps puts things into perspective: I am blessed with two healthy girls, and that in itself is sooo very lucky – after not being sure we’d have any children, full stop. I have friends that are still struggling with infertility or have given up altogether – which I find so humbling ..so yes, a boy would be the icing on the cake for sure but I grow wiser with time haha and I don’t think, regardless of the sway that I could be “disappointed” if it didn’t work that way. I probably would still yearn for a son, but that would not make me any less happy to be having a lovely girl (my eldest says she wants two sisters and two brothers – unless #4 becomes a #4 & 5 that’s not happening – hubby is ok for 3, 4 might be pusging it – 5, no way lol).
Re thrush - this is the 1st time I have had this, and timing sucks too :( it’s a tad better but not back to normal – so FX it clears very quickly or I’ll go to the dr’s tomorrow or the day after…

[LMSM]

LMSM - I have no advice to clear it up but were you planing to start trying this month? Maybe you can get it cleared up in time.

MsMarie - When are you planning to start?

I'm on CD3 and hoping to try this month if my hubby is on board [emoji846] That'd be as early as next Wed that I'd be fertile. I'm really hoping to just use opks as I really don't want to start temping. I guess after a couple months I'll add that if needed though.

If I do conceive I would have only been swaying food wise for 4 weeks though. Started doing weights after my 2nd daughter was born.

Anyone else gearing up this month?


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Yep – the plan was to try – but if it doesn’t clear might just skip this month to be on the safe side – sooooo annoying! I am so ready so blah lol

Yay for you - hopefully DH won't back out of it!
4 weeks of swaying is ok – I think the optimal time is actually 6 weeks, for blue swaying the best results are seen for a short sway period – not an extended one I believe? So you should be good :) plus you have been changing your condition since DD2 with the weights, so I think you are doing well ^^

[LMSM]

Kat1234: i am trying this month as well. I am using the opk as well...it is very close to my O day so i test 2-3 times a day to make sure that i dont miss the surge. I think i might have stressed out about this so O is delayed. So furstrating. Hopefully positive opk today!

Shinay - FX for a nice big surge and a clear positive opk for you soon! ^^ how has your BD pattern been up to now?

[MsMarie89]

LMSM - I have no advice to clear it up but were you planing to start trying this month? Maybe you can get it cleared up in time.

MsMarie - When are you planning to start?

I'm on CD3 and hoping to try this month if my hubby is on board [emoji846] That'd be as early as next Wed that I'd be fertile. I'm really hoping to just use opks as I really don't want to start temping. I guess after a couple months I'll add that if needed though.

If I do conceive I would have only been swaying food wise for 4 weeks though. Started doing weights after my 2nd daughter was born.

Anyone else gearing up this month?


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Kat- we are actually far out from ttc! My husband and I are going to Italy at the end of the summer and we are leaving our girls with grandparents! I don't want to be pregnant on our time away from the kiddos so we will start trying this fall! September or October! I am pre swaying though, started weights a while ago and am eating all blue friendly foods just not the high calorie intake atm.

How exciting you are starting this cycle!! I wish you lots of luck!! [emoji5]


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[MsMarie89]

Thanks MsMarie ;)
We’ll have to hope we all get our boys here :D agree healthy is just the absolute most important: I’ve seen the toll of illness or disability, and for me it’s certainly not having a son at “all costs” – so helps puts things into perspective: I am blessed with two healthy girls, and that in itself is sooo very lucky – after not being sure we’d have any children, full stop. I have friends that are still struggling with infertility or have given up altogether – which I find so humbling ..so yes, a boy would be the icing on the cake for sure but I grow wiser with time haha and I don’t think, regardless of the sway that I could be “disappointed” if it didn’t work that way. I probably would still yearn for a son, but that would not make me any less happy to be having a lovely girl (my eldest says she wants two sisters and two brothers – unless #4 becomes a #4 & 5 that’s not happening – hubby is ok for 3, 4 might be pusging it – 5, no way lol).
Re thrush - this is the 1st time I have had this, and timing sucks too :( it’s a tad better but not back to normal – so FX it clears very quickly or I’ll go to the dr’s tomorrow or the day after…

Oh my gosh yes! I could written all of this word for word!!!

My eldest keeps saying that I will have a boy baby and girl baby in my belly next. I'm like no baby I hope not! Lol. But of course if it did happen by some miracle I would be blessed!

Hope the thrush clears very quickly!!


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[shinay]

Shinay - FX for a nice big surge and a clear positive opk for you soon! ^^ how has your BD pattern been up to now?


Thanks LMSM. I hope you feel better soon and can ttc thia month. Things came up early on this cycle, so we didnt bd much (or at all). Here is my chart with bd pattern. I thought i was gonna O yesterday or today. Well we shall see tomorrow if it will be my lucky day. What is your nornal O day? And what is your bd plan?

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[TtcBlue18]

Sorry to jump in with a totally random topic, I was just hoping others may share some opinions and suggestions with me :)

I find myself eating a lot of the same things every day (in order to get a wide variety of vitamins and nutrients- I use my fitness pal) for example, caloric intake is high, no problem there, but I've had shredded cheese, banana, apple, lettuce, tomatoe, potatoes, carrots and hamburger every day for the past 4 days. Is this a good thing or a bad thing, or does it make a difference you think? I figured as long as nutrition was great and my eating routine always meets the HE guidelines, it should be a good thing. Or do you think I need to widen the variety of foods I eat, and try to get that same level of nutrition from some other fruits/vegetables?

[Skyblue]

I eat overnight oats one day for breakfast and cereals the next day. Eggs and multigrain bread when I am too lazy to cook. I drink coconut milk, banana, spinach and dates smoothie. It's filling and I think in line with sway and not to mention delicious. I cook red meat and bake chicken a couple of times in a week. Also make lentils at home. Will mention if I remember anything else.


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[ELP]

You could maybe add in some dried fruits for snacks, apricots, figs and dates are all excellent sources of a little new extra something for your body:) The HE diet and idea comes from the findings about how the higher ranking female members of monkey and ape groups have more sons, so it would add to reason that as you have all know become top ranking members of your own group;) that all new high nutrient foods come to your first, hopefully your body picks up on this and sends that little boy your way! Sorry, went off on a little tangent there lol:bigsmile:

[TtcBlue18]

Oh I hope so! I have very high hopes for this diet since discovering swaying. Right away I realized I had a very pro-girl lifestyle. I have yet to find one single thing I did with my previous pregnancies that pointed to a boy. This is all such a big change for me, I feel in my heart that it is the difference! I'm so thankful for this site and all the help I receive using it!
:bowdown:

[TtcBlue18]

I eat overnight oats one day for breakfast and cereals the next day. Eggs and multigrain bread when I am too lazy to cook. I drink coconut milk, banana, spinach and dates smoothie. It's filling and I think in line with sway and not to mention delicious. I cook red meat and bake chicken a couple of times in a week. Also make lentils at home. Will mention if I remember anything else.


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I think I will pick some stuff up today and try that smoothie! I've been wanting to incorporate spinach more often but find myself trying to hide it in my own food the way I do my kids!

[Bommy_7]

Oh Bommy, shoot :( did AF arrive?

Yes it did. Sorry just saw this. Im doing alright ready for round two lol.

[MsMarie89]

I think I will pick some stuff up today and try that smoothie! I've been wanting to incorporate spinach more often but find myself trying to hide it in my own food the way I do my kids!

I second the smoothie idea as a quick delicious way to incorporate more nutrients! I do coconut water(8oz), large handfuls of baby spinach and baby kale, and about half a cup of frozen blueberries, right now I'm adding some protein powder to mine cause I drink it right after working out but I'm not ttc till this fall, I think I will replace the protein powder with a scoop of almond butter when we get closer to sway time. :)


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[Pbn3]

Just thread crashing here as I'm hoping to get as many opinions as possible on moon phases and what sways towards what gender. If you're familiar with this OWT/theory could you please pop into this link and post your answer. Thank you ladies :)
Moon phase gender definition poll (http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59172)

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[LMSM]

Thanks LMSM. I hope you feel better soon and can ttc thia month. Things came up early on this cycle, so we didnt bd much (or at all). Here is my chart with bd pattern. I thought i was gonna O yesterday or today. Well we shall see tomorrow if it will be my lucky day. What is your nornal O day? And what is your bd plan?

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Yeah doesn't look like O yet but the drop could be the drop that often happens just before O and the rise that then comes...your opks were aaaalmost there so should be good if you can get a few more BD sessions in :)
My BD plan was disturbed by the thrush earlier in the week and O seemingly coming early now but we BDd Saturday last week, last night too and now that my opk is almost there, might attempt tonight but might wait for tomorrow and make sure I test probably trice to ensure I don't miss the surge :) no es my today either..so weird lol after pos opk (probably tomorrow) will try at least 2 BD ..fortunately it's the we, sô easier to slot those in than during the week ;)

[LMSM]

Oh my gosh yes! I could written all of this word for word!!!

My eldest keeps saying that I will have a boy baby and girl baby in my belly next. I'm like no baby I hope not! Lol. But of course if it did happen by some miracle I would be blessed!

Hope the thrush clears very quickly!!


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[LMSM]

Sorry to jump in with a totally random topic, I was just hoping others may share some opinions and suggestions with me :)

I find myself eating a lot of the same things every day (in order to get a wide variety of vitamins and nutrients- I use my fitness pal) for example, caloric intake is high, no problem there, but I've had shredded cheese, banana, apple, lettuce, tomatoe, potatoes, carrots and hamburger every day for the past 4 days. Is this a good thing or a bad thing, or does it make a difference you think? I figured as long as nutrition was great and my eating routine always meets the HE guidelines, it should be a good thing. Or do you think I need to widen the variety of foods I eat, and try to get that same level of nutrition from some other fruits/vegetables?
I see we had our girls the same years.... crossing fingers we get our boys at the same time! ;)
I would agree with what the ladies suggested..and I feel nothing but your own satisfaction so food doesn't grow dull, variety is great for that too!

[LMSM]

Attempt time!!! This is this morning s opk :D36194

[TtcBlue18]

I see we had our girls the same years.... crossing fingers we get our boys at the same time! ;)
I would agree with what the ladies suggested..and I feel nothing but your own satisfaction so food doesn't grow dull, variety is great for that too!

That's great!!! I didn't even realize the years matched up :) I've decided to put off trying until next month (even though I've been so eager since february!) so that I can be 100% satisfied with my sway before trying. This is my last baby regardless so If it's a girl I don't want to get those feelings of "if only I had..."

Also, I just now saw your picture! Good luck, my fingers are crossed for you!!

[MsMarie89]

@lmsm: how exciting! Good luck!! [emoji170][emoji170]


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[ELP]

Good luck LMSM!!!

[bni]

i've just found this forum through various searches on google, and i'm glad i did. i purchased a few supplements last week before reading this forum - but i think i'll need to read more on this forum to accumulate a list of supplements which I should take and also get the DH to take it too. ^^ i plan to start trying next month, and also reading about the HE diet to try down a few notes to stick to for our food menu... :D :D

[ELP]

Welcome bni:) Have a good read around, its surprising how much of it will make complete sense when it comes to swaying!! Feel free to ask as many questions as you like:)

[MiaMelb]

Welcome bni, it's always nice to see new blue swayers and there has been a few the last month or two. When are you planning on ttc?

[Skyblue]

Welcome bni. Good luck with the diet and supplements. I also felt so great finding Gd.


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[bni]

thank you so much for the welcome ELP, Skyblue & MiaMelb (Hi Mia, I am from Melbourne too! :D :D ) , i have just purchased a customised sway plan for TTC boy, filled in 2 forms and am eagerly waiting for my plan to arrive to start with the supplements and diet changes

I really am hoping to start trying for baby after 1-2 months or as soon as possible :baby2: ... as I had a miscarried and undergone a suction d/c about 2 months ago, the doctor said to wait 2 cycles before trying again to have a baby - so it would be a great time to start with the diet & supplements straight away now.

Before going on this forum I read randomly so many other websites and purchased folic acid (only 800mg/tablet), evening primrose oil, cod liver oil, fertile cm, royal jelly... but i am unsure now what should I take or should change and buy other supplements now after reading the forum. :crawl: i read somewhere else DH should be on american ginseng, multivitamin (not sure if he should take normal men multi or men 50+ multi)...

I will just wait for the sway plan with meals instruction.. i'm overly excited to start with the diet and supplements to start counting until we can start to try again for a baby. I heard we need to be at least on the diet for 6 weeks.

[LMSM]

Thanks ladies!
Welcome Bni – sorry for your recent loss – hopefully you will get a sticky bean soon … it is recommended that you get at least 6 weeks on the diet before attempt but the mian thing is for you to have a change in condition as compared to prior (diet, exercise etc will all get you tehre, even if it seems minimal). The idea is to get pregnant asap ^^
Another Aussie swayer, yay! (am in Bne) :D feel free to ask any question on here, there’s bound to always be something with an answer :D if you bought a plan, you will have all the best info available to you too … most of the supplements you have are fine, though royal jelly Atomic doesn’t recommend – and if you can get a good prenatal multi (I take Blackmores as it has iodine and other goodies too), that will already be a good start!
If you do take EPO then ensure the amount is always lesser to the total fish oil amounts you get – but I think overall Atomic is not uber keen on blue swayers taking EPO (high Omega 6 ratio).
Re folic acid – I actually take an additional folate (the true folate, methyl-folate I think it is called – I got some from Jarrow’s – this is way more bio available so your body will metabolise this better), so that would be good if you could switch to that at some point if no NFP (now that you have bought the other might just stick to that).
Again, check with her, but I think Atomic is not all for FertileCM and other “miracle” supps – but recommends you take Robutussin and/or Preseed to assist with your EWCM (and then, only if you have any issue with it, that is).

To give you an idea of what I am using:
*Daily:
Prenatal (I take Blackmores’ prenatal – in the pink bottle)
CQ10
Fish oil (1000mg)
Methyl folate

*At specific times in cycle:
Wheatgrass 2-3 times/week
Robitussin from CD10-15 ish
Preseed at attempt time (only tiny amount if no EWCM is seen)

In addition to the actual HE diet ;)

[TtcBlue18]

To give you an idea of what I am using:
*Daily:
Prenatal (I take Blackmores’ prenatal – in the pink bottle)
CQ10
Fish oil (1000mg)
Methyl folate

*At specific times in cycle:
Wheatgrass 2-3 times/week
Robitussin from CD10-15 ish
Preseed at attempt time (only tiny amount if no EWCM is seen)

In addition to the actual HE diet ;)

I was just curious, what is CQ10 and how does it help boy swayers??

[LMSM]

I was just curious, what is CQ10 and how does it help boy swayers??

Hi TTcblue, CQ10 is a great antioxidant, which works great to ensure all your body's cells are in optimal condition...not sure whether it is specifically blue but since when swaying blue you want to boost your fertility and condition, it is a great add. Not cheap though and you want to ensure you don't get toooo much of it either (like anything too much of a good thing can also be nocive in too high doses).
Atomic or some of more experienced swayers may be able'to add to it..Îve seen it on lots of blue swayers' sways so hopefully it does some good work! :)

[LMSM]

Btw, haven't seen Throwaway Panther for a while..if you are around hon, come and say hi, hope all is well! ;)

[kat1234]

Thanks for adding LSMS! I was curious too [emoji3]


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[bni]

thank you so much for the information LMSM, I have passed 2 cycles already since my loss, and started the HE diet recently after reading on this forum for almost a week ^_^ I will follow this diet and take all supplements for 6 weeks then start trying again, hopefully i will soon be blessed with a little one :D :D

re methyl folate - i have a search around and saw some jarrows methyl folate on iherb, but there is methyl folate 1000mcg & also methyl folate 400mcg, which one are you taking? is it the methyl folate 1000mcg and take it one a day :D

also preseed- i searched for this but seemingly preseed lubricant they rename it "first response conception friendly" lubricant in Australia - is it right? these are sold in chemist warehouses around, otherwise I will have to search online more to look for preseed. i usually only have tiny amount of EWCM so I guess i will need this.

i have purchased women-1- a-day multivitamin which arrived, and also men 50+ 1 a day for DH. I have returned some un-needed vitamins which I have not opened so all is good :p :p ... I have also purchased probio & coq10 - should both my DH and I take probio & coq10 - or this is only for me. I read somewhere in this forum that atomic recommends taking 2000mcg folic acid / day - so I guess i will have to see how much folic acid is already in the multivitamin then add on more folic acid/ methyl folate to add up to the amount.

I just purchased wheatgrass powder which I have include in my morning smoothie with banana, spinach, dried apricots, little bit of raw almonds, coconut water, and some raspberries - which taste really nice :D :D i'm finding the taste of v8 vegetable juice a little bit hard to drink everyday though.. lol.. but it's suppose to make up for 3 serves of veggies. :p there is the v8 fusion in the supermarket too perhaps i will try those, not sure if they are as good as v8 original as the fusion version does not have tomatoes.

My hubby is a bit on the underweight side for his height - am trying to get him to eat 3 meals + 2 snacks a day too to gain some more weights to be healthier overall but he does not eat much (roughly he only eat 1900calories/day) - i have to result to buying up&go breakfast liquid from the supermarket for him to drink as snacks to make up for more calories intake.

i can't wait to receive the sway plan!!! :P :P .. lol.. but thankfully reading from you ladies and atomic to purchased some supplements in advance to start taking & start the HE diet.

[LMSM]

@BNI -
No worries at all!
So to answer your questions
- That’s the Methyl folate I got (Jarrows on Iherb) – I think I got the 400mcg, will double check tonight but I think I went with that with the reasoning of more is not always better – given I have folic acid in the multi (though they are different) didn’t want to get too much iykwim?
- I bought some Preseed at CW a while ago, so might have changed since then – if they rebranded it, it’s very possibly why the box I got was heavily discounted even though it’s expiry was a long time away lol if it’s sperm friendly lube you should be good to go ^^
- Did you get a prenatal multi or just a women’s multi? (the prenatal is likely to have a few things that are good such as Iodine, dha, etc)?
- The 50+ for Dh is fine (I got the normal 1-a-day for DH but 50+I might be even better ^^)
- Probiotics (forgot to mention I also take this!) and CQ10 is good – I think for both of you as sperm are cells too so a booster is good (if your DH is fien to take a couple more pills) – you should try not to exceed 100mcg/day for the CQ10
- Do you take additional fish oil or does your multi have some/ (I think it AS recommends around 1000 mg/day)
- Great for the wheatgrass – agree that is the best way to get it down as it otherwise tastes foul! EPL did mention the other day that wheatgrass may be best taken a few times a week rather than daily – but am sure it is not detrimental to take it daily as such ;) might just be easier for most given taste and price of wheatgrass! Your smoothie sounds perfect ;)
- I don’t do the V8 I can’t drink it – just can’t! if you otherwise have plenty of fresh fruit and veg in your diet I don’t think it is a problem not to drink it ;)
- Remember it’s not just the calories, it’s the nutrients mainly – and if you can get nutrient in DH that is the absolute best – if he only ups his intake a little, that in itself will be a positive change – does he exercise( weights?)?

[TtcBlue18]

Hello ladies!
I do this alot, but I was just wanting to pop in again with another random question.. (What I'm really searching for is as many opinions as possible to help restore my confidence and hopes for my sway, so all comments are greatly appreciated!)
My DH smokes. Quite a bit. Like a pack a day. Does anyone else's dh smoke and how much do you personally feel that this affects blue swaying? I know it's totally possible for men who smoke to father boys, of course, but just out of curiosity I was wondering if any of you (if you have a hubby who smokes) have swayed blue before and whether or not it was successful. Or if you are currently swaying and are in the same boat... TIA to anyone who may respond.

[ksmom]

One of DH's friends smokes and so does his wife and they have a boy. I also have a friend who smokes and so does her husband and they have two boys. I do think smoking sways pink but it's totally possible to get a boy with it.

[TtcBlue18]

Yeah my DH has a couple friends who have boys but I guess my brain just likes to counteract the good news by telling myself "their wives are just made to have boys, that's why they have no girls" I guess I just feel like it's too good to be the that this could work for me, even though Im putting my all into it. Thank you for sharing!! :)

[cosmosis]

I dunno, but my dad has smoked since he was 13 and fathered 3 boys and 1 girl (me!). First son was from his first marriage, then I came along when my mom was slimmer and then my two brothers came after me and my mom was heavier set by then. So it IS possible, even with smoking dads.

Good luck hun!

[ELP]

DH is a smoker and our 3 boy sways all resulted boys:) We had 5 pink 3 blue before our sway babies:)

[TtcBlue18]

Oh my gosh thank you ladies!! This is is just what I needed to hear to boost my confidence back up!

:cheerteam:

Thank you thank you!!!

[TtcBlue18]

DH is a smoker and our 3 boy sways all resulted boys:) We had 5 pink 3 blue before our sway babies:)

I have seen where you said this before and I that is just amazing!!! 3 successful boy sways, wow! I did not know your dh was a smoker. You are great inspiration for me!!

[bni]

Thank you so much for your detailed answers LMSM :happy::happy::happy:

i have prenatal vitamins (elevit) from last time which I have not finished, though I was worried these have too much extra calcium & magnesium so I didn't take this, and plan to save them for when i get pregnant again. I'm still waiting for my sway plan but started taking these:

DW:
- women 1 a day
- DHA for pregnancy (bioisland brand, from CW)
- coq10 30mcg (maybe after finishing this bottle i will get the 50-100mcg)
- probiotic
- wheatgrass
- additional folic acid 800mcg

DH:
- men 50+ 1 a day
- fish oil 1000mg
- probiotic
- coq10 30mcg

I read somewhere that there are also other vitamins to give DH to take L-arginine 500mg ; L-Cartinine 500mg & Vit D 1000IU...

oh, is it i should only take wheatgrass every few days.. :worry: .. then i'll change this, i just take them everyday because I thought it helps to sway blue.. :p :p I tried to get DH to take wheatgrass too but he dislikes the taste of them - I can't even taste them in the smoothie so I don't mind :D :D :D

I've gained 1.5kg in the last 2 weeks since being on a HE diet (previously i only have 2 meals/day but now i changed to 3 meals & 2 snacks/day) ... =)) ...
i'll try to control this weight gain because i'm already on the chubby side to start with :xy: perhaps by eating more small meals but not too much food for each meal, perhaps more veggies & meat but fewer carbs.
Both my husband and I we started for the last 1 month to do weights 5 times/week for 30-40 minutes in the morning :bluecheer: i must admit the HE diet & having the motivation to exercise more often feel great. ^_^

[TtcBlue18]

ELP---- May I ask how long did you take supplements before ttc when you had your 3 successful boy sways? And did dh take supplements?

[Skyblue]

I also wanted to ask the same.
Elp- Can u share the sway plan with us?


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[LMSM]

Thank you so much for your detailed answers LMSM :happy::happy::happy:

i have prenatal vitamins (elevit) from last time which I have not finished, though I was worried these have too much extra calcium & magnesium so I didn't take this, and plan to save them for when i get pregnant again. I'm still waiting for my sway plan but started taking these:

DW:
- women 1 a day
- DHA for pregnancy (bioisland brand, from CW)
- coq10 30mcg (maybe after finishing this bottle i will get the 50-100mcg)
- probiotic
- wheatgrass
- additional folic acid 800mcg

DH:
- men 50+ 1 a day
- fish oil 1000mg
- probiotic
- coq10 30mcg

I read somewhere that there are also other vitamins to give DH to take L-arginine 500mg ; L-Cartinine 500mg & Vit D 1000IU...

oh, is it i should only take wheatgrass every few days.. :worry: .. then i'll change this, i just take them everyday because I thought it helps to sway blue.. :p :p I tried to get DH to take wheatgrass too but he dislikes the taste of them - I can't even taste them in the smoothie so I don't mind :D :D :D

I've gained 1.5kg in the last 2 weeks since being on a HE diet (previously i only have 2 meals/day but now i changed to 3 meals & 2 snacks/day) ... =)) ...
i'll try to control this weight gain because i'm already on the chubby side to start with :xy: perhaps by eating more small meals but not too much food for each meal, perhaps more veggies & meat but fewer carbs.
Both my husband and I we started for the last 1 month to do weights 5 times/week for 30-40 minutes in the morning :bluecheer: i must admit the HE diet & having the motivation to exercise more often feel great. ^_^

BNI – you are doing fantastic – and Atomic will be able to advise you further – my 2 cents worth are and again confirm with Atomic she’s the expert!

The prenatal will be fine, even with magnesium and calcium – you might have seen it is recommended to have several serves of full fat dairy every day – as it is great for fertility so I wouldn’t shy away from the prenatal based on that fact alone.
If your prenatal has DHA then you can drop the extra dha maybe?
The prenatal would also have folic acid – so you wouldn’t need the additional one (unless the one you have is the methyl folate??)
For the wheatgrass – if you don’t mind the taste, then I think it is fine, truly – again like with everything else double check with Atomic!

Double check that your hubs’ multi doesn’t already have fish oil cq10 vit D etc as it might be too much otherwise – not sure about the L-arginine, L-cartinine etc – def a no no for you, but some may be good for him so wait for her green light on that?!

Regarding your weight gain, it’s a good sign in a way, shows that it has had an impact on your condition already – like it’s been said before it’s not about exploding the calorie meter, but ensuring you get loads of nutrients – so ensure you get lots of high nutrient foods, not necessarily super high calorie – the idea is to keep that blood sugar level stable – you say you do a smoothie, do you eat other things? Liquid calories are not the most efficient way to get your intake – so maybe look at how you spread your intake throughout the day (if you have foods to chew, your brain has more time to process the info, and digesting them will be a more steady affair).
You already are exercising well, your weight gain may well just be some muscle gain ;)

[LMSM]

I also wanted to ask the same.
Elp- Can u share the sway plan with us?


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ditto! :D

[LMSM]

EPL – just a question if you don’t mind my asking – genuinely curious: since you already had both genders before swaying – what made you want to sway? Have a balanced number of each gender? Or are girls truly more difficult and you preferred sons? Lol

[meoab]

Hi ladies, I am new when it comes to the use of opk's. So I used one today and saw a very faint line. What does that mean? Negative?

[TtcBlue18]

Negative but it should turn positive very soon (unless its faint because you just missed your surge). Basically there's a small amount of LH but not enough to be positive. It has to be equal or darker than the test line to be positive. I get a faint line the day before positive, then i get a positive for 2 days in a row, and then sometimes I get a faint line the day following.

[meoab]

Thank you! It is still faibt today..And I have these weird cramps too. I read somewhere that one still can ovulate even though the lines are fade.

[ELP]

ELP---- May I ask how long did you take supplements before ttc when you had your 3 successful boy sways? And did dh take supplements?

DH took coq10 for our 1st sway plus an occasional mens one a day, for the next 2 he didnt take anything:)
Sway 1 (http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-boy-sway-/4406-elps-boy-sway-confirmed-boy.html)
Sway 2 (http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-boy-sway-/26478-elps-bfp-gd-blue-sway-2-update-nub-looks-very-hopeful.html)
Sway 3 was an unintentional oopsie during a healthy phase of mine where I switched back to my blue sway eating of no bread, plenty of nuts cheese, meat fruit and veg, and taking fish oil and occasional wheatgrass. I find when I'm swaying blue I just feel so much more enthusiastic? about life:) So if all of a sudden you feel yourself strutting down the road then you know things are working lol:bigsmile:

[ELP]

EPL – just a question if you don’t mind my asking – genuinely curious: since you already had both genders before swaying – what made you want to sway? Have a balanced number of each gender? Or are girls truly more difficult and you preferred sons? Lol

Will be back to answer this tomorrow, ran out of time again:)

[TtcBlue18]

Thank you! It is still faibt today..And I have these weird cramps too. I read somewhere that one still can ovulate even though the lines are fade.

Yes I believe I read atomic said that before. I guess sometimes they don't quite pick it up. This happened to me one time I think because it always goes in the exact pattern I described except this one specific time I had a faint line for 3 days but it never did quite read positive.

Also I think some people may get faint lines for multiple days that gradually get darker until 3-4 days in and then read positive.. I've never had that though.

Good luck, meoab!!

[ELP]

EPL – just a question if you don’t mind my asking – genuinely curious: since you already had both genders before swaying – what made you want to sway? Have a balanced number of each gender? Or are girls truly more difficult and you preferred sons? Lol

Back again:)
My Dh had always joked that I can have as many children as i wanted as long as I kept the boys ahead of the girls, so the pressure was on from the beginning to keep it balanced or leaning one way:) The order is :biggirl2::bigboy::bigboy::biggirl2::bigboy::biggi rl2::biggirl2::biggirl2: Swaybabies:bigboy::bigboy::bigboy: So we kind of kept it balance for the first 6 then the next 2 were both girls, at this point the silly gender comments from the world were starting to grate on both of our nerves so after stumbling across swaying on a gender guessing site I started to look into it:) So unfortunately I can tell you that even when you add your blues to your line up the world will still! not be happy as they only shut up at balanced!;):bigsmile:
I have always been a very tomboyish person so had never seen myself as a girl mum, I still as a mum of 5 ladies cannot do a french plait! and have to admit to finding the boys easier. I think this is because in a small way I think the boys success in life leans more on DH and the girls on me, what if I fail the girls, what if they don't do well or arent happy or god forbid become the village mattress, then I have failed. Boys don't seem to have as much pressure in my house? I know this is different everywhere so I am just talking about here, but in work they will work with their dad, in life they are free to be more roamers maybe? so less opportunity for me to have failed, does that make sense? The responsibility of daughters I find scarier. So the more brothers thay have scaring the hell! out of every possible danger around them the better:agree::) I fear the world for the girls? which is a very strange thing to say but I have to keep them safe. Never really tried to put it into words before so I hope this doesnt read slightly crazy:bigsmile:

[cosmosis]

Back again:)
The responsibility of daughters I find scarier. So the more brothers thay have scaring the hell! out of every possible danger around them the better YESSSSSSSS! I agree with this.

[Skyblue]

Can anyone tell
Me how to wean off folic acid and when and by what mcg after bfp? Taking 2000mcg including
Prenatal.


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[TtcBlue18]

I read a post before that said to continue the amount you were taking when you got pregnant all the way up to 12 weeks, then gradually wean down to just your prenatal.

[Skyblue]

Thankyou ttcblue18. Are u trying this cycle?


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[TtcBlue18]

Youre welcome! Congratulations on your pregnancy!!

This cycle I have skipped, awaiting af, expected June 4th and I will have my first attempt in June! :)

[Skyblue]

Thankyou. Fx for your attempt.


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[Jconger]

Just found out that our sway didn't go as planned... I will probably be back here in a year. Here's to three girls and the dream of a son still [emoji322]


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[LMSM]

Hello lovelies,

Thanks for your insight EPL – makes a lot of sense actually! Haha :D
Agree the responsibility of daughters somehow feels greater – so much more difficult even in (or all the more so) this day and age to be a woman, and we want to raise them strong and yet shield them also from this world where they will have to stand up for themselves and deal with so much…
I think I would relax more ,if that makes sense, if I only had boys….

Jconger – congrats on your little girl – she was meant to be yours! I can understand the “loss” of that son you had hoped for this time around, and cross fingers for you that you get your prince next time. Is your little girl all ok, and pregnancy tracking ok?

Here we are at cycle 2, and hubby got sick so started antibiotics today due to a throat infection (ok, wasn’t ‘just’ a man flu lol).
Do any of you know if him taking those are ok/ Opks not pos yet but probably tomorrow evening or Weds might be – so attempt time very clooose!

[Jconger]

Are there any moms of three girls trying again for a boy? Just found out Friday we are having a third girl. I was so sure this was our son and just feel discouraged. I don't think we will be done as planned but I would love to hear from some moms of 3 girls...


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[srg09cag11]

I have three girls! I'm pregnant again, but gender still unknown.


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[meoab]

I had a positive OPK for the first time. But we didn't bd for almost two weeks and have done in the morning without knowing I was ovulating (not sure I am though.. and I used pre seed..). What should we do? Continue bd'ing tonight and first thing tomorrow morning?

[ELP]

Yes, I would meoab, good luck!!:)

[meoab]

Hi Elp,thank you! We BD'ed two days ago in the mornibg and night, then day after night. I had a very dark line today, darkest line till dat. What should I do ladies. Wait a day and bd the dat after?

[TtcBlue18]

Just found out that our sway didn't go as planned... I will probably be back here in a year. Here's to three girls and the dream of a son still [emoji322]


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Im so sorry, I know it must be tough. I've gone over the "what if I get a 3rd girl" scenario in my head a million times. I think of the loss i will feel of the son i never had, and never will have. Then I look at my 2 beautiful girls and think how happy they will be to have a baby sister to grow up and bond with, and I realize it will be okay. It will be more than okay, because what's meant to be always finds a way. I know it sounds so cheesy, but God must have thought that little girl's need for a mother like you is just too great. Congratulations on your healthy baby girl!! I wish you all the best and hope you get your blue bundle with your next sway! Try to keep your head high!

I'm sorry if this comes off insensitive in any way, I'm not the best at putting my thoughts into words, but I wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you.

[meoab]

So I have had 3 days in a row positive ovulations tests. Lines are darker than the test lines. Did anyone else have this and what could this possibly mean? Is my body confused or might there be something else?

[Skyblue]

So I have had 3 days in a row positive ovulations tests. Lines are darker than the test lines. Did anyone else have this and what could this possibly mean? Is my body confused or might there be something else?

Hi Meoab, May I suggest you to ask this in the June 2WW thread. The ladies there are great help and that is a super active group. A lot of ladies here are a part of that. Pbn knows a lot and has the best advise and pretty much everyone is super helpful and know a lot. It also has a couple of blue swayers me included and I got a bfp recently.


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[meoab]

Congrats hun, very happy for you.

[Skyblue]

Thankyou. Please join us in the 2WW group.


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[Samish]

Hello all blue swayers ❤

I am so obessed with this site that i am spending most of my nights reading all the threads, sways And specially essays by atomic (May God bless this lady for all her time and support). I know its crazy yeah!

I am following HE Diet religiously now and we ll ttc next month. But I am having a lot of heart burn since a week, is it because of this diet change (eating like a horse already!lol)? Or is it because of 5mg folic acid i am taking every night? What should I take to ease it?

I am looking for a lot of support and tips from all of you.

Love and blessings!

[Bommy_7]

Hey everyone long time no see. So we took some time off become the pressure to try with everything was too much for hubby and I. We haven't been really following the bd pattern and I went out of town a couple weeks ago to get this monday...

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