frequency of BD for pink and blue

[atomic sagebrush]

I want you doing every other day when the fertile window is not open (so the first option is better to me than the second).

While it is possible to develop secondary infertility, I really do think this is a Shettles thing and we will be hearing good news from you very soon. If we go another 2-3 months with BFN even with more intercourse then we may want to see a doc at that time to see what's going on.

[Joyjoy88]

I want you doing every other day when the fertile window is not open (so the first option is better to me than the second).

While it is possible to develop secondary infertility, I really do think this is a Shettles thing and we will be hearing good news from you very soon. If we go another 2-3 months with BFN even with more intercourse then we may want to see a doc at that time to see what's going on.

Thank you for the encouragement. It really made me happy. :bluecheer:

AF is expected on Monday. I must not give up and have more faith.. And of course use the methods you have taught me ! Will go with CD7,9, 11,12,13! Operation flood the egg will begin soon! hahaha

[atomic sagebrush]

:highfive: You got this!

[violagirl87]

Hi atomic!

I am new to this site and would really like to sway blue if possible. Some background on me, I am 31 years old and have 2 daughters aged 3 and 20 months. My husband is 34. I would like to possibly try to get pregnant with our final child before the year ends, but I know that’s a big ask. My first two daughters were conceived in the first months ttc so I never really paid much attention to how fertility works exactly. I am really really hoping for a boy this time. Last cycle I tried shettles as I had not come across your site yet and didn’t end up concieving, as I only did one attempt on O day. This cycle weBD on 0-4, 0-2, 0-1, 0 day. I’m basing my O purely off CM as I haven’t yet really gotten around to temping or OPKs or anything ( will have to try if we don’t conceive this month).i have also been doing your diet recommendations that are on this website. My question is do you think we DTD on the correct days to help sway blue?

Thanks for all your help

Love your work and your website

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome Viola!

Yes I think that was a fab attempt for a boy! Very much how I got my boys!!! I would have you guys pick it up with every other day for a few days to ensure youre covered in case ovulation happens a little later than you think.

[violagirl87]

Thanks atomic ! Fingers crossed we end up getting a BFP this month. The reason we didn’t DTD after O was that my daughters both had the flu and then I caught it too.

Does being sick hurt chances of a successful conception?
Also I took some cough syrup to up my EWCM , should I stop that now? And start it up again if we go into another cycle ?

Also I know you’ve written conceiving too closely doesn’t help with blue sways , do you think there is enough gap now? My dd1 was 10 months when we conceived dd2, now both are 3 and 20 months.

Thanks ! Sorry for all the questions




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[atomic sagebrush]

Being sick may cut chances a little but we've had plenty of people get pregnant in months they'd been ill.

Yes I would stop the cough syrup now, it's not harmful but just to save money.

20 months is more than enough time! That's fine!

[violagirl87]

Hi atomic!

I’m now on my third month TTC and I’m using the clear blue digital opk (already opened the box after I read the strips are just as good if not better). I’m continuing my HE diet attempt ( breakfast cereal everyday when I normally don’t have anything) and eating a lot more read meat, having nuts and cheese as snacks and lots of full cream milk. I’ve gained almost 3 kg [emoji58][emoji58][emoji58] . I’m taking elevit and getting DH to take menevit and will attempt 3-4 BD in my fertile window. I’m so wanting to pregnant already, a boy would be perfect but even another girl baby would just completely fill my heart and home.... seems everyone from Meghan Markle to Amy Schumer to everyone is pregnant [emoji50]

Would you recommend anything else to do in my boy sway? I will be buying some robitussin as well for more ewcm.

Between part time work and my two DDs I have no energy left for much workouts....

Any help or advice would be great !

Thanks [emoji3531]


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[atomic sagebrush]

What I'd do now is cut back on any empty cals such as bread/baked goods, sugary treats, even fruit juice. Bananas if you're eating lots of them Focus on getting the most bang for your buck - the most nutrients for the fewest calories.

What is hubby doing for release when not in the fertile window?

[violagirl87]

I normally don’t have juice or bread or baked goods but I eat a lot of rice for lunch and dinner. Does that mean a chicken sandwich for lunch isn’t good for HE diet? I’ll have a banana a day with my cereal as well.
I normally have homemade curry with rice for dinner

DH releases with me every 2-3 days outside the fertile window ...


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[atomic sagebrush]

A chicken sandwich is fine for HE (as is the curry) but I"m trying to think of ways for you to slow down or stop the weight gain. You have gained enough and there is no benefit to gaining more, and it may even harm your sway to gain a massive amount of weight so we need to cut back on carbs and possibly portion sizes to stop the weight gain now.

I would lose the banana as it's basically just sugar and starch. It doesn't actually help make boys, that's a myth.

Yes let's add in the guaifenesin (robitussin) and I want you to be sure you lay flat for at least 30 minutes after sex, and most important spend part of that time on your stomach, not only on your back. Some of us conceive better with some tummy time.

[violagirl87]

Thanks atomic! I’ll keep all that in mind. I normally have a very small appetite so I usually don’t have any mood for breakfast, maybe a couple of biscuits for lunch and then I have a big dinner of rice and curry at around 5-6 , but have been eating well every meal and snacking too so I think I’ll minimise the portions but try to keep all the good healthy foods in and go for some nice evening walks to balance out the extra calories.

Thanks again ! I’m just coming into my fertile window and hopefully will O on the 30th so fingers crossed for a success conception this month !

What are your thoughts on the Ava website and bracelet btw?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck and blue dust headed your way!

I think the Ava is ok, but not at all necessary (and quite expensive.)

[Cookies22]

Hi Atomic Sagebrush! I am new to the forums. I am looking to sway pink in April 2019, so just getting ready... We plan on having sex (with DH ejaculating inside) every day from the end of my period to 2-3 days before O. I'm an old hand at tracking my BBT and have started using clearblue OPKs to assess how many flashing smiley face days I get before the big O. Hoping this will help me to pinpoint O so we can cut off 2-3 days before (my CM is very unreliable).

I've also just ordered cranberry, baby asprin and calcium citrate from the online chemist. How long before TTC should I be taking these vitamis? I'll also limit my salt intake and try to eat a lot of chicken, rice, broccoli, blueberries etc. I am allergic to dairy so sadly I can't incorporate that into my sway.

Does this all sound like a good pink sway to you? Thank you in advance!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome Cookies!!!

I don't recommend doing that daily BD to a cutoff. I have a full explanation why not to in this thread: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/58359-what-up-bd-thru-o-pink-lately.html

If you do choose to go that route (which of course is always at your discretion) do be aware that your ovulation day and number of flashy smileys can change by the month even if it's been predictable in the past.

I do not ever recommend cranberry for women as it hasn't worked and has risks and side effects. You cab give it to your partner though. Baby aspirin is safer than cranberry, but only marginally and has its own risks and side effects, not to mention it also doesn't work. I have full explanation of all that in this thread https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/7086-how-lower-ph-via-supps-cran-baby-aspirin-aspartame-other-techniques.html and also why pH probably does little to nothing for swaying here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html

While I personally don't believe in calcium for swaying, I do leave it at your discretion (I hope that the calcium is without Vit. D!) 600 mg daily and be sure you wean off rather than dropping it suddenly. More about minerals here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/62533-le-diet-faq-2-mineral-madness-edition.html

You do NOT need to eat lots of dairy to get a girl and in fact it may actually harm your sway. We follow a different type of diet on this site that we've gotten good results with (even among the many of us who tried the high-dairy diets in the past and got opposites with them.) You can find that here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/16780-low-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html and the LE Diet FAQ here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/24628-le-diet-faq.html

[violagirl87]

Hi atomic

I am trying to work out my blue sway this month, as DH has to work til 8-9 pm every night this week.

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I hope this attaches properly. We BD last night (28) and my app says I should ovulate on the 31 (or 1st according to Ovia) so I was wondering if you could help me pick the best nights to BD on?

I was thinking to BD on 30 31 and 1 ?
I hope DH is able to do that after working late , but if not what are the best nights for a blue sway?

On a side not my OPK still hasn’t been a positive for an LH surge today (29) but my CM is watery since yesterday


Thanks so much in advance
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[Cookies22]

Hi and welcome Cookies!!!

I don't recommend doing that daily BD to a cutoff. I have a full explanation why not to in this thread: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/58359-what-up-bd-thru-o-pink-lately.html

If you do choose to go that route (which of course is always at your discretion) do be aware that your ovulation day and number of flashy smileys can change by the month even if it's been predictable in the past.

I do not ever recommend cranberry for women as it hasn't worked and has risks and side effects. You cab give it to your partner though. Baby aspirin is safer than cranberry, but only marginally and has its own risks and side effects, not to mention it also doesn't work. I have full explanation of all that in this thread https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/7086-how-lower-ph-via-supps-cran-baby-aspirin-aspartame-other-techniques.html and also why pH probably does little to nothing for swaying here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html

While I personally don't believe in calcium for swaying, I do leave it at your discretion (I hope that the calcium is without Vit. D!) 600 mg daily and be sure you wean off rather than dropping it suddenly. More about minerals here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/62533-le-diet-faq-2-mineral-madness-edition.html

You do NOT need to eat lots of dairy to get a girl and in fact it may actually harm your sway. We follow a different type of diet on this site that we've gotten good results with (even among the many of us who tried the high-dairy diets in the past and got opposites with them.) You can find that here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/16780-low-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html and the LE Diet FAQ here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/24628-le-diet-faq.html

Thank you SO MUCH Atomic! Gosh I wish I'd chatted to you before I bought $100 worth of supplements (apparently I can't return them either as they're vitamins!). Oh well! The diet sounds much more do-able - do you think diet is the single most important factor when it comes to swaying pink? I'll have a read up on timing too. XX

[Cookies22]

Hi Atomic, I just purchased a personalised plan so hopefully that will answer most of my questions!

[violagirl87]

Hi atomic

I had a positive clear blue OPK this morning (30th) and we will have our BD tonight and tmr ,skip 1 night and try again. Kinda a mix of SMEP I guess. Pls let me know if I should just BD 3 days in a row or just stick to my plan

Thanks !!


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[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you SO MUCH Atomic! Gosh I wish I'd chatted to you before I bought $100 worth of supplements (apparently I can't return them either as they're vitamins!). Oh well! The diet sounds much more do-able - do you think diet is the single most important factor when it comes to swaying pink? I'll have a read up on timing too. XX

Diet, exercise, one attempt are most important. In fact I think they're the only things that really work (aside from jogging/biking for DH and smoking for him)

Not sure if I posted these for you yet, but the debunking of timing is here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html
Here:https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/35539-no-12-a.html
and here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/swaying-studies-and-scientific-research/1562-what-real-differences-between-x-sperm-y-sperm.html

Thanks so much for your purchase, and don't hesitate to post any followup q's in your coaching forum (that's where your questionnaire is posted) as I check that forum several times a day and you'll get quicker response time!

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, the Ovia is not always right, but yes the 30th and 31st are good nights to BD.

Then follow up with attempt on the 1st incase the Ovia is a day late.

Then I'd do a few rounds of every other day just to be certain we're covered.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi atomic

I had a positive clear blue OPK this morning (30th) and we will have our BD tonight and tmr ,skip 1 night and try again. Kinda a mix of SMEP I guess. Pls let me know if I should just BD 3 days in a row or just stick to my plan

Thanks !!


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I'd go ahead and still DTD on the 1st to be sure you're covered in case you ovulate a bit later than the Ovia predicts. Then go to every other day after that.

[Joyjoy88]

Thank you for the encouragement. It really made me happy. :bluecheer:

AF is expected on Monday. I must not give up and have more faith.. And of course use the methods you have taught me ! Will go with CD7,9, 11,12,13! Operation flood the egg will begin soon! hahaha

Hi Atomic,

I finally got my BFP with BD on CD 8, 10, 11 and 13. Wanted to BD on CD 12 but DH got tired so skipped on that day. And based on my temp rise, I ovulated on CD13. Hopefully this is good enough to sway a boy.

Btw, do I continue with the multivits and vitamin D?

Lastly, thank you so much for your guidance! I couldn't do it without your help.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh that's wonderful news Joy! I was wondering how you were getting along!! That's very much like the kind of pattern that got me my boys.

Yes continue with multivitamin and Vitamin D - the amounts we recommend on here are totally fine to take during pregnancy.

[Joyjoy88]

Oh that's wonderful news Joy! I was wondering how you were getting along!! That's very much like the kind of pattern that got me my boys.

Yes continue with multivitamin and Vitamin D - the amounts we recommend on here are totally fine to take during pregnancy.

Thank you! I am praying for a smooth pregnancy.

Oh and the supplements do I continue the fish oil and calcium.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes there's no harm in continuing those into pregnancy. IF you want to come off them, be sure to wean off gradually by spacing doses further and further out till down to one per week, then drop them.

[violagirl87]

Hi atomic!
I have 2 questions:
- my weight gain on the HE diet is quite a bit now, I’ve gone from 52 kg to 56 today and I’m so worried.
My general diet since last month is cereal for breakfast, nuts as snacks, some sort of chicken or beef sandwich or meat curry and rice (with veggies sides)for lunch, and rice and meat curry ( with veggies sides) for dinner .
My whole life I’ve had a very small appetite and pretty much had a big dinner and just a couple of cookies throughout the day prior so this is a huge change for me ....and probably how I got 2 girls also

Could u give me some advice to either stop the weight gain or even lose it without losing the HE diet?

Sorry if this isn’t in the right thread but I was wondering if I should get tested for hormones and see if progesterone support could help get a successful conception... sorry if it’s a silly question but I might just be going bonkers in this tww [emoji2960]


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[atomic sagebrush]

Cut portion sizes back. Eat the same things, just less of them. You can eliminate snacks if you prefer to eat larger portions at meals, or just eat less at every meal and snacks. Fill up with more fresh fruit and veg, cut way back on juice, dry fruit, potatoes, breads, and other carby things.

I"m going to message you a Dream Members only thread that will help with this. :)

[violagirl87]

Thanks atomic!
I’ll say it again ur amazing for all your help [emoji847][emoji847][emoji847]

On a side note, I don’t know if anyone remembers but in in Friends Ross and Rachel have a one night stand ie one attempt in the fertile window resulting in a girl .... hmmm seems atomics theory really does work [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[atomic sagebrush]

Ha ha yes a friend and I (who had 3 b 1 g) also have a theory about that - on TV shows whenever an unplanned pregnancy changes everyone's life for the better, it's almost always a girl and when it ruins their life totally or is in some way stressful, it's almost always a boy.

Once you start looking for it, it is really obvious!

I'm gonna have to start looking at this your way Viola!!

[Joyjoy88]

Thank you! I am praying for a smooth pregnancy.

Oh and the supplements do I continue the fish oil and calcium.

Unfortunately I am miscarrying again. Started bleeding this morning and did an ultrascan. Doc couldn't find any sac and hcg level is at 324. Will take another blood test in two days to see if the hcg will increase but I am not hopeful. Sigh. I am heart broken.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh no Joy do they have any insight as to why this may be happening???

[Joyjoy88]

Oh no Joy do they have any insight as to why this may be happening???

Probably need to do more tests to have more insights. But I think for now we will take a break from ttc and resume next year. It's so heartbreaking to have a mc the second time round. Sigh.

Doc did recommend to take metaformin next time when I want to try again.

I will just continue the supplements and exercise to keep my body healthy. And pray too ��

I am not sure what else I can do at this point of time

[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: Just let me know how I can help whenever you need anything.

We want to try to avoid the metformin if we can - my advice is to possibly lose 5-10 lbs and that will improve your insulin response and maybe we'll be able to prevent you going on the Metformin.

[Joyjoy88]

:agree: Just let me know how I can help whenever you need anything.

We want to try to avoid the metformin if we can - my advice is to possibly lose 5-10 lbs and that will improve your insulin response and maybe we'll be able to prevent you going on the Metformin.

Oh but I am already underweight. I am 50kg and 169cm. Do I need to lose weight? Actually I am eating more frequently just to increase my weight.

The doc recommended metformin because my right ovary is showing some pcos. But it's non conclusive for now as I have regular cycles.doc suggested to do another scan once i am ready

[atomic sagebrush]

AGH if you're already underweight then you should not be on Metformin! It can make you lose weight. Have they tested you thoroughly for lots of signs of PCOS or are just going off one???

[Joyjoy88]

AGH if you're already underweight then you should not be on Metformin! It can make you lose weight. Have they tested you thoroughly for lots of signs of PCOS or are just going off one???

Yikes. I cannot afford to lose any more weight.

No further tests have been done so far as we have decided to take a short break from ttc. But I did went for an acupuncture session yesterday. Might continue and see how it goes. I am waiting for my next cycle to arrive after my mc. Hopefully it doesn't change much.

What do you think of acupuncture? It's my first time trying it and the doc say will try to help me relax and produce better eggs but i am not 100% onboard with it. But what i do know is that i need to make sure the next time i get a bfp i do not miscarry again. it's awful to go through this.

[atomic sagebrush]

I doubt the acupuncture does anything at all. It is something doctors have people do because most people want to feel that they're doing something. The good studies have shown it does not help anyone get and stay pregnant. But it ~may~ help you to feel relaxation and the relaxation may help reduce stress. But I would suggest doing something more like a massage instead, at the very least you will get a pleasant massage out of the deal.

They should not just prescribe you medication without proving that you have high blood sugar. Your body will not respond to having overly low blood sugar well either. Is there any way to get a second opinion?

[Joyjoy88]

I doubt the acupuncture does anything at all. It is something doctors have people do because most people want to feel that they're doing something. The good studies have shown it does not help anyone get and stay pregnant. But it ~may~ help you to feel relaxation and the relaxation may help reduce stress. But I would suggest doing something more like a massage instead, at the very least you will get a pleasant massage out of the deal.

They should not just prescribe you medication without proving that you have high blood sugar. Your body will not respond to having overly low blood sugar well either. Is there any way to get a second opinion?

Yes I am planning to get a second opinion in Dec to see if they could run a test or something. In the meantime I will try to not think about TTC. lol maybe a break from it is good.

[atomic sagebrush]

Just let me know if I can help in the meanwhile, Joy.

[Joyjoy88]

Just let me know if I can help in the meanwhile, Joy.

Thanks Atomic.

I finally got hold of the multivitamins(women's a day and men 50+) that you have previously recommended for both myself and my hubby.

So I guess i continue taking the rest per usual? fish oil(alternate day), vit D, Calcium, Folic Acid, Vit C, Probiotics?

[atomic sagebrush]

You probably won't need the Vit. D, calcium, Vit C beccause the multivitamins have the same amount in them - just change one for the other, unless what you're presently taking is a much higher dose, in that case gradually wean off of the higher dose onto the lower dose.

[ruupau]

Good people, any help here am trying to understand which way exactly that I should do to sway pink, DH is far away, my AF starts today can't ask him to release on his own, so apparently he is abstaining til end of my AF, but want to understand how to combine abstinence and compressed frequent release, maybe it has been explained earlier but am not getting it, can you help me out, DH is 37 so abstinence is not recommended but to ask him to release thats a no go

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[atomic sagebrush]

Don't do compressed frequent release with abstinence! All you'll do is undo the good of the abstain!

Yes, abstain isn't recommended for men over 35 but this is an unusual situation. Since he has to abstain anyway, let's use it as our sway tactic instead of then adding another sway tactic (that will either cut odds of concepiton OR undo the good of the abstain for your sway). The risks of abstain are small, but I just think since abstain doesn't work anyway, why not just skip it as a recommendation for many people to try - but that does not mean that I then think that abstain is going to harm babies. It just seems like a sensible precaution to avoid for those who can. But you can't avoid it, and should just do the abstain + one attempt at positive OPK.

[ruupau]

Thanks a lot Atomic, so one attempt on positive OPK, OK thanks, its been long since dieting pple are questioning have you been sick cause I lost a lot of weight

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[atomic sagebrush]

It's time to stop losing weight then!! Just do what it takes to hold steady on weight!!

Do you want to have more attempts now??

[ruupau]

Thanks Atomic for responding, I jus need one attempt, my AF usually 3 days and 2 days spotting, have been taking cinnamon so my Ovulation day have been pushed to day 15 this month, had 26 days but usually had 25 day, so now don't know when I expect ovulation, its been changing, its like m irregular , I have been tracking my calories but for a day they are not reaching 800 calories, I am like someone who fears to eat now, fearing to gain weight

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[atomic sagebrush]

I'm sorry, but that is all completely unacceptible. That is not LE Diet, that is starvation, and I am afraid you're getting an eating disorder.

NO ONE who does not have moderate to severe PCOS and lots of weight to spare should be taking cinnamon. Stop cinnamon immediately.

The absolute barest minimum for LE Diet is 1200 calories. I would rather see you at 1500-1800. If you can't get up to at minimum 1200 and better more like 1500-1800, you need to go off the diet NOW NOW NOW and go vegetarian. If you find you can't do that, you need to get help because I am really really worried about you. YOu cannot get and stay pregnant at 800 calories a day and if you are finding you're actually scared to eat and unable to get more calories then we need a professional's intervention here.

[ruupau]

Thanks Atomic, I will add more vegetables and stop cinnamon right away, and thanks a lot, am fasting for 10 days as per our religion so I know its gonna be difficult to reach 1200 calories per day but I will try hard,

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[atomic sagebrush]

Vegetables are free and unlimited, you can have as much as you want, no need to count them. You need to get the 1200 cals from other things besides vegetables.

For now during the fast you need to do what you need to do, but once the fast is over please try to normalize your diet as much as you can. I am really worried aboutyou!

[ruupau]

Thanks Atomic for being concerned will try my best to normalize the diet the vegetables are making me full before I get another food to add calories but am trying , so have a question the days for abstaining should not be over 14? So what if I gt + OPK after 14 days of abstain should I continue with 1 attempt?

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[atomic sagebrush]

If that is the case then cut back on vegetables. The vegetables are to help you get full AFTER you've met your needs for calories, protein, and fat.

If you get to about 7-10 days of abstain, have hubby "clean the pipes" and keep going with the abstain.

[ruupau]

So stressful for me to wait for a positive OPK, have been temping but I stopped 2 days ago because it stressed me a lot and was having sleepless nights so now waiting for my positive OPK today cycle day 12 but still very very faint line, have 25/26 days but with out the exact day when I ovulate, wanted this cycle to work out for me, am praying that soon I will get my pos opk, and do my 1 attempt,

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[atomic sagebrush]

If it's stressing you out, then do an attempt just to cover and then keep testing or go to every 4 days.

[ruupau]

Thanks for quick response Atomic, I will do that

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[ruupau]

So I BD CD13 and got my positive OPK CD14, should I stick with that one attempt m on CD 15 and should be my Ovulation day

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[ruupau]

So I BD CD13 and got my positive OPK CD14, should I stick with that one attempt m on CD 15 and should be my Ovulation day

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[ruupau]

Had some itching down there during my Ovulation, so was busy reading your post atomic about YI, so I think I ruined my sway because I BD while having some itching, I always have some itching during ovulation days

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[atomic sagebrush]

So I BD CD13 and got my positive OPK CD14, should I stick with that one attempt m on CD 15 and should be my Ovulation day

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OH sorry I only just now saw this. For best chance of pink, stick with one attempt, for better chance of conception add attempt.

BD with a yeast infection doesn't ruin your sway, many women get a little mild yeast around ovulation since you make EWCM at that point. Very common.

[ruupau]

Thanks Atomic only did one attempt 2 DPO waiting for bfp, fingers crossed and praying too

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[atomic sagebrush]

Fingers and toes crossed!!

[ruupau]

Unfortunately atomic the evil witch came late as spotting yesterday and today light thought I was going to miss it, the attempt was early or am not ovulating but was having more saliva in my mouth, and craved for sweet things I could go for chocolate or cookies or sugar free bubble gums, now waiting for my AF to end would need your advice, last time I did 1 attempt a day before positive OPK, with abstain of 14 days and LE diet, less exercise, should I stick with the abstain and 1attempt or I go for e4wd, I cheated during 2ww hope I didn't ruin it


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[ruupau]

Unfortunately atomic the evil witch came late as spotting yesterday and today light thought I was going to miss it, the attempt was early or am not ovulating but was having more saliva in my mouth, and craved for sweet things I could go for chocolate or cookies or sugar free bubble gums, now waiting for my AF to end would need your advice, last time I did 1 attempt a day before positive OPK, with abstain of 14 days and LE diet, less exercise, should I stick with the abstain and 1attempt or I go for e4wd, I cheated during 2ww hope I didn't ruin it


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[ruupau]

I tested last night

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[ruupau]

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I'm not convinced that is a true positive, although the symptoms are interesting.

I do not ever recommend abstains of 14 days and haven't you guys been trying for quite a while now?? I'd drop abstain and have your husband do regular releease every 2-4 days instead.

[ruupau]

This was our first cycle, was waiting for the BC to come off my system, so this cycle will do 2-4 days but I would like to have 1 attempt only is that sound OK, with DH working far we are going to end up being in abstain for 10+ days again but not 14 I don't know maybe will try 2-4 release and 1 attempt, with the new year coming Wil be with in laws no chances for BD, but I know God have plans. I also think the abstain was long given that DH is 37

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[ruupau]

What do you do if you have a 11 day luteal phase, is that a shorter or its fine

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[ruupau]

Sorry to trouble Atomic can you please explain whats 2-4 days,

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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh I'm sorry, for some reason I thought you'd been trying for a while.

Yes keep the one attempt, have the every 2-4 day release. If he has to abstain for several days due to work, then that's ok, we just aren't going to deliberately have you abstain any more.

11 days is long enough to get pregnant but we have to be sure you're eating enough so it doesn't get any shorter. I remember you were maybe not eating as much as you should, is that still going on or did you find a way to eat a bit more?

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry to trouble Atomic can you please explain whats 2-4 days,

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have your husband release either on his own or with you, with a condom, every 2-4 days for as far in advance of your attempt as possible. Do this with one attempt.

[ruupau]

Oh I'm sorry, for some reason I thought you'd been trying for a while.

Yes keep the one attempt, have the every 2-4 day release. If he has to abstain for several days due to work, then that's ok, we just aren't going to deliberately have you abstain any more.

11 days is long enough to get pregnant but we have to be sure you're eating enough so it doesn't get any shorter. I remember you were maybe not eating as much as you should, is that still going on or did you find a way to eat a bit more?I find a way to eat a bit, I now think am in range, though sometimes I can be busy that I forgot or delay to eat, i will keep the one attempt and avoid j&d because last time I did that too.

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[ruupau]

have your husband release either on his own or with you, with a condom, every 2-4 days for as far in advance of your attempt as possible. Do this with one attempt.DH is only home for 3 days after my AF and from there till my Ovulation he will be super busy so is it okay to jus leave it to abstain then as he can't release alone and one more question is the release in a row or skipping days, sorry for asking too much, thanks for the responding

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[atomic sagebrush]

The release is skipping 2, 3 or 4 days between them. NOT in a row.

Yes it's fine if he has to do abstain. It cuts odds of conception but it doesn't sound as if there is any option.

[ruupau]

Hey Atomic, sorry to trouble, so been abstaining from CD 2-7 and on CD 8, DH wanted to release (with protection) and it happened, but CD 9 nothing happened so today its CD10, should I do the 2-4 days of release in advance of the attempt or I should continue abstain, was planning to abstain because DH was working but now that he is not working and the abstain was disturbed, I don't know what I should do, usually ovulate CD 14/15, so currently I am 4 days before my attempt, I would need your advice, and thank you

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[atomic sagebrush]

Agh sorry I missed this yesterday.

I would just have you continue with the abstain. But if you released again, that's ok too. They got about the same in terms of results. Whichever is easier for you guys.

[ruupau]

Thanks Atomic, I jus thought you were going to say continue abstain so I jus continued abstaining, thanks a lot

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[AHAM23]

Same cycle length but swaying for a girl! What frequency would you suggest for a girl sway?

[atomic sagebrush]

Same cycle length but swaying for a girl! What frequency would you suggest for a girl sway?

the first post in this thread has an investigation of the possible patterns you might think about using.

No frequency pattern has really worked though. The important thing is the one attempt, so for pink, keep the one attempt as long as possible. Drop all other less effective sway tactics (like timing, frequency, pH, antihistamines, etc) and keep one attempt s long as you can.

[ruupau]

Hey Atomic, thanks for the response you were giving me, I did my attempt and tested positive 10 DPO and confirmed the test @11 DPO and got the bfp,

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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh that's wonderful ruu! Hugest congrats!

[Jessirberger]

Hi atomic! I'm hoping that my OB will put me on Clomid in a week or two. I need to conceive in the next 4 cycles due to my husband taking a long military training after that. I plan to start the LE diet today. Oh and I am definitely the boy mom personality that you describe on another thread :nails:

I hear you saying thatfor swaying girl 1 attempt with abstaining is best, right? What day should I DTD? It took us 9mo to have our son (2yrs ago, no Clomid, no sway, but lots of tracking and OPKs) and so I am torn between the pressure to conceive vs the desire to sway girl.

Thanks!

[atomic sagebrush]

I would have you do every 4 days instead since you're on Clomid and only have 4 months. Just have unprotected sex every 4 days (in the 72 hour pattern) starting after your period ends and continuing on till you're certain you've ovulated, even if that means going all the way through till your next period begins. Your ovulation can and usually WILL move when swaying, so don't stop too soon thinking you've ovulated on your normal day.

[Jessirberger]

I would have you do every 4 days instead since you're on Clomid and only have 4 months. Just have unprotected sex every 4 days (in the 72 hour pattern) starting after your period ends and continuing on till you're certain you've ovulated, even if that means going all the way through till your next period begins. Your ovulation can and usually WILL move when swaying, so don't stop too soon thinking you've ovulated on your normal day.Thanks atomic! Just went to my Dr and she prescribed me Femara- I'm assuming your instructions are the same for that as with Clomid?
She also recommended Pregnitude which I haven't heard much about.
Any supplements that I should put Hubby on? He's willing to sway (except diet probably) but he's very healthy, exercises/runs 3x+/wk.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yep!

Do you have PCOS or insulin resistance?? More than 30 lbs to spare?? If not I'd skip Pregnitude.

Yep instructions for Femara are the same as Clomid, different dose tho which they'll give you in your prescription.

You can give your husband olive leaf extract but since he runs I'd not give him anything else. (none of the male supps have worked anyway and all really cut odds of conception, particularly with running). OLE 500-1000 mg daily started right away, continued on till BFP at which point he should gradually wean off by spacing doses further and further out till down to one per week, then he can drop them.

[Jessirberger]

Yep!

Do you have PCOS or insulin resistance?? More than 30 lbs to spare?? If not I'd skip Pregnitude.

Yep instructions for Femara are the same as Clomid, different dose tho which they'll give you in your prescription.

You can give your husband olive leaf extract but since he runs I'd not give him anything else. (none of the male supps have worked anyway and all really cut odds of conception, particularly with running). OLE 500-1000 mg daily started right away, continued on till BFP at which point he should gradually wean off by spacing doses further and further out till down to one per week, then he can drop them.


Yep!

Do you have PCOS or insulin resistance?? More than 30 lbs to spare?? If not I'd skip Pregnitude.

Yep instructions for Femara are the same as Clomid, different dose tho which they'll give you in your prescription.

You can give your husband olive leaf extract but since he runs I'd not give him anything else. (none of the male supps have worked anyway and all really cut odds of conception, particularly with running). OLE 500-1000 mg daily started right away, continued on till BFP at which point he should gradually wean off by spacing doses further and further out till down to one per week, then he can drop them.

No PCOS, no spare 30lbs, and I don't think I'm insulin resistant. My OB just mentioned that she's had several pts who were trying to conceive and that Pregnitude seemed to help. I'll hold off on that.

What does the OLE do? I tried to find an explanation in the index and couldn't. I have a small feeling that the 9mo it took us TTC last time was something on his side of things. I was tested for basic infertility issues at my OB (ironically I was pregnant and didn't know at the time). He cancelled his testing appointment when we got a BFP 2yrs ago. He is 33yrs old, I'm 32.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes we have a disconnect because Pregnitude can be a godsend to those with PCOS/IR and doctors don't understand that it's good for some people but that doesn't make it for everyone. I'd hold off and see what happens for now.

OLE - to be honest we don't know what it's meant to do. We had a doctor on here for a brief time who claimed it made for better gender splits with IVF without harming sperm quality. So the IVF ladies played with it and for a while it did seem like it was maybe doing something, so I gradually phased it in for swaying too. But over time it has become clear to me that it's probably not doing anything for IVF (people are basically cycling till they get a cycle with more XX than XY and then they say "oh look it worked" but there's no consistency to that, some people have this result in a month, others in 6, and that appears to me to be sheer chance) And while it did seem to help at first with swaying, that was when I was only using it in a very small group of people (those with low sperm health and who were over 40, and they may be more likely to have girls anyway) and as I've started using it for more and more people, the results have dropped to the overall success rate of the site, indicating to me that it's doing nothing really.

But, it doens't appear to harm sperm health so while I'm fine with you leaving it out, we don't think it reduces sperm quality either.

[Vai]

Hi atomic. We ttc girl this month, I planned abstain 7+days with one attempt on pos OPK, but my DH is so unhappy LOL. Today is 7 day, but my ov will be in other 5-6 days. Is it bad idea to get one attempt with candom today and one attempt on pos OPK? My husband is 32 age

[atomic sagebrush]

Abstain doesn't even work so please drop that if hubby is not happy with it.

What you suggest is fine.