Part 3: Due January, February and March 2019

[kikurose]

I’m not really doing ok. The lady told us it was a girl, then went to do a second check and told us it was a boy. Then proceeded to continue to show us his parts. It was horrible. I didn’t sway, this was an oops that happened right as I was setting up my sway.

That’s so hard, Cassidy. Big hug.


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[Pretty]

Oh gosh that’s awful! I’m so sorry!!

[Mommy2apples]

Oh wow that’s interesting!! Well that’s very exciting!!!


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It is exciting! [emoji4]


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[Kelbear]

I’m not really doing ok. The lady told us it was a girl, then went to do a second check and told us it was a boy. Then proceeded to continue to show us his parts. It was horrible. I didn’t sway, this was an oops that happened right as I was setting up my sway.

Cassidy my thoughts are with you, I know words won't be able to ease the disappointment but know that we are here if you need to vent. I am so so sorry you didn't hear pink. I hope you feel better about this little guy once he arrives.

[Throwaway_panther]

Oh Cassidy, I am so, so sorry. I was fully expecting to come on and see your good news on having a girl! :( I'm so sorry!

That scan sounded exceptionally cruel -- to have been told your dream and then for it to change. Maybe it would help to at least leave a review for the place? The tech sounds irresponsible to have given a guess if they weren't sure in the first place, only to then change it!

I am so, so sorry <3 We're all here for you.

[SurroundedByBoys]

Sorry I havent been around, been feeling down both physically and mentally... GD suddenly smacked me hard and Ive been having my own little pity party. Trying to pull myself out of the doldrums.

Cassidy, I def know how you feel... with an oops its like you never even really had a full chance. I'm sorry you didnt hear pink either. Our boys are coming for a reason <3 If you need to talk feel free to PM. Im working through all the emotions as well.

[4blue2pink]

Cassidy im sorry you didnt hear pink, i had the exact same experience with the 20 week scan for my DS3, tech said 99% certain a girl when she did the potty shot then later in the scan (presumably as baby moved) she went "oh wait its a boy" it was awful, i had my long awaited and dreamed of daughter for all of 2 minutes before she got "taken away" so to speak.

looking back on it now im glad she saw he was a he and corrected the mistake there and then, because i cannot even begin to imagine going through a full pregnancy with "my girl" only to give birth to a boy... that would have broken me completely.

hope you are feeling ok :heart: he will be the most perfect fit for your family once he arrives but i know how hard it is to feel that way right now xx

[Raining]

Just had my follow up scan. Measuring perfectly at 9 weeks. Heart rate 175 :heart:

[SurroundedByBoys]

I’m not really doing ok. The lady told us it was a girl, then went to do a second check and told us it was a boy. Then proceeded to continue to show us his parts. It was horrible. I didn’t sway, this was an oops that happened right as I was setting up my sway.

I just wanted to add, I went back and looked at your nub. I saw vague stacking that looked like forking but nice and flat like girl. Mine was the same for the most part. I also, during my early scan, saw that looked like 3 lines while she was measuring a femur bone and my heart leapt. Im def thinking of you :awe:

[gafan]

I'm sorry, Cassidy. What a sad way to hear the disappointing news.

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[Eighme]

Just had my follow up scan. Measuring perfectly at 9 weeks. Heart rate 175 [emoji813]Great to hear, Raining!

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[hannahptrussell]

Cassidy, I’m thinking of you and hoping for an overwhelming sense of joy to fill your heart & head. My last one was very similar. My heart raced when I heard girl, then he really showed us who he really was. My pregnancy was rough from that day but we quickly found a name for him and then he quickly stole my heart. I could not imagine life without my little guy. He brings our family so much laughter.
My anatomy scan is in a week and a half. I’m preparing myself to stay calm and be very insistent that the sex not be written down, recorded or even told to the OB. Someone is gonna mess up. I just know it. We are so excited for it to be a birth surprise now. I might just take my headphones and tell her to let me know when she is done going south. Hahahaha. I think now there is part of me that really feels someone is gonna spill the beans before the birth. And that makes me more anxious/nervous than the actual sex reveal. In fact, I told my husband that I am the only one who can go to appts after the scan. If someone slips, it’s going to be to my ears alone. Then maybe I can just hold an incredible secret for the remainder.


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[ABC.2606]

Sorry I havent been around, been feeling down both physically and mentally... GD suddenly smacked me hard and Ive been having my own little pity party. Trying to pull myself out of the doldrums.

Cassidy, I def know how you feel... with an oops its like you never even really had a full chance. I'm sorry you didnt hear pink either. Our boys are coming for a reason <3 If you need to talk feel free to PM. Im working through all the emotions as well.

Thinking about you as well Surrounded and sending virtual hugs!

[ABC.2606]

Just had my follow up scan. Measuring perfectly at 9 weeks. Heart rate 175 :heart:

Wonderful news!!!!!

[simkan]

Wonderful news Raining!
I'm so sorry you're going through these feeling Cassidy and Raining.
Your experience sounds really awful Cassidy. I would have been broken by that too.

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[Raining]

I’m sorry you didn’t get the news you hoped for Cassidy. I know nothing we say can make it better, but we here if you need to talk. :sad:

[Eighme]

Well ladies, I feel like the world's biggest, to put it bluntly, idiot. Husband and I decided todo Sneak Peek (it's like gender testing at home we got on Amazon). Got my results today and, wouldn't ya know, came back BOY.

I feel dumb. There is a chance the test is wrong and I'm upset for nothing, or it's right, and I'm upset because it's not what I was hoping for. I wish we had just waited. But we didn't see the harm in it. Now I'm left feeling like, "what if?" And "it could be right." So basically same boat I am already in just now more upset.

Lesson learned for sure. [emoji58]

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[ABC.2606]

Well ladies, I feel like the world's biggest, to put it bluntly, idiot. Husband and I decided todo Sneak Peek (it's like gender testing at home we got on Amazon). Got my results today and, wouldn't ya know, came back BOY.

I feel dumb. There is a chance the test is wrong and I'm upset for nothing, or it's right, and I'm upset because it's not what I was hoping for. I wish we had just waited. But we didn't see the harm in it. Now I'm left feeling like, "what if?" And "it could be right." So basically same boat I am already in just now more upset.

Lesson learned for sure. [emoji58]

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I’ve definitely heard that those can be wrong - especially if there was “contamination” from your DH or son’s DNA. Hoping it’s wrong for you!

Are you doing NIPT? Or an early gender scan?


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[Eighme]

I’ve definitely heard that those can be wrong - especially if there was “contamination” from your DH or son’s DNA. Hoping it’s wrong for you!

Are you doing NIPT? Or an early gender scan?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkProbably an early gender scan (which we should have saved our money for). But we definitely know better now!

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[Raining]

Well ladies, I feel like the world's biggest, to put it bluntly, idiot. Husband and I decided todo Sneak Peek (it's like gender testing at home we got on Amazon). Got my results today and, wouldn't ya know, came back BOY.

I feel dumb. There is a chance the test is wrong and I'm upset for nothing, or it's right, and I'm upset because it's not what I was hoping for. I wish we had just waited. But we didn't see the harm in it. Now I'm left feeling like, "what if?" And "it could be right." So basically same boat I am already in just now more upset.

Lesson learned for sure. [emoji58]

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I was considering doing this test because so many friends have had success with it. I have definitely heard about the contamination thing which is why I have reservations. Did you clean the area really well and under your nails? I’ve heard there shouldn’t even be a male present in the house while collecting the sample!

[Eighme]

I was considering doing this test because so many friends have had success with it. I have definitely heard about the contamination thing which is why I have reservations. Did you clean the area really well and under your nails? I’ve heard there shouldn’t even be a male present in the house while collecting the sample!I FEEL like I did. But I very well may not have. I don't feel like I did it to the best of my ability. No males were present but I had my mother help me and she didn't wear gloves ( OOPS!) and I'm not sure how well she washed her hands. I feel like we were so excited to do it, we probably just didn't take it as seriously as we should have.

We looked up the critical reviews on Amazon and people were getting false results for both genders so I just don't trust it now. I don't know how you'd get female only for it to be a male. The test just tests for male DNA, lack of would mean girl, so how could you get a girl and it's a boy. Stuff like that has me scratching my head and doubting it. There are always variables and things. I just have no idea.

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[Raining]

I FEEL like I did. But I very well may not have. I don't feel like I did it to the best of my ability. No males were present but I had my mother help me and she didn't wear gloves ( OOPS!) and I'm not sure how well she washed her hands. I feel like we were so excited to do it, we probably just didn't take it as seriously as we should have.

We looked up the critical reviews on Amazon and people were getting false results for both genders so I just don't trust it now. I don't know how you'd get female only for it to be a male. The test just tests for male DNA, lack of would mean girl, so how could you get a girl and it's a boy. Stuff like that has me scratching my head and doubting it. There are always variables and things. I just have no idea.

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Yeah, I totally don’t trust it after reading all of that! I’ll be skipping it!

[atomic sagebrush]

Please don't do the at home blood tests. They just don't work. to answer the question of "how could you get a wrong result to be female if it was a male" I suspect it's that they detected mama DNA and mised boy baby DNA. Lab error, possibly not enough blood to thoroughly test. And of course going the other way, male DNA can get into the test via contamination.

Beyond that, I would ask "how do we even know the blood they tested was yours"? One would hope that you could trust an ethical company; however this does not seem to be the case. In addition to the critical reviews on Amazon NOW, they had a different Amazon account originally and took it down because there were so many negative reviews. And when people try to get their refunds, the company is really balky and slow about it. They are also deleting negative reviews off their facebook pace. So the company doesn't even seem to be trustworthy and it makes me wonder how often they are getting people's DNA samples mixed up, or what hapens when they have a lot of tests to process, do they ever get behind and just send people back some answer and figure they have a 50-50 shot at it, or what?

The only things to trust are the blood tests done in a lab where your blood is handled by a trained technician, there is always a chain of ownership as to whose blood it is. And even hospital labs can make the occasional mistake on DNA testing.

It is always possible that the test is correct and the baby is a boy but I would not get upset yet, not by a longshot. FXFXFX.

[ABC.2606]

Hey ladies... How is everyone doing? I feel like our board has been fairly quiet lately :)

Has anyone used a maternity belt in pregnancy? I'm thinking about getting one. I'm getting big SO fast and I'm already starting to have back pain (which I never really even had the first two times around!). Just wondering if anyone has any positive/negative experiences!!

[simkan]

Hey ladies... How is everyone doing? I feel like our board has been fairly quiet lately :)

Has anyone used a maternity belt in pregnancy? I'm thinking about getting one. I'm getting big SO fast and I'm already starting to have back pain (which I never really even had the first two times around!). Just wondering if anyone has any positive/negative experiences!!Yes I used a smiley belt last time. I suspect I'll need it again soon. It was for the baby pressing on a nerve... sort of helped. Probably would have felt worse without it.

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[hopper]

Hi ladies, I've been totally AWOL the last few weeks but finally all caught up. SBB and Cassidy, I'm so sorry you didn't hear what you'd hoped and I hope you are able to find peace with time. It's hard tho. GD sucks!

TP I've been thinking of you. How are things with DH now? Hoping you guys are met each other in the middle xxx

Does anyone have any scans coming up soon? I got my letter - no appt til Oct 5!! I'll be close to 15 weeks but that's ok cause we're going team green anyway!

I've been super super sick. Like reeeeeeal bad. The anti nausea meds are finally kicking in and I'm feeling some relief. I'm 9 weeks now so only a few more first tri weeks to go please Lord!! I'm starting to think baby must be another boy as I'm just as sick as I was on #1 + #2!! Surprisingly I'm ok with that, I think!! I'm really excited to meet this little one, I just feel that despite the obstacles the cycle we conceived he was meant for us!! And I'm really at peace with that! [emoji170][emoji173]

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[SurroundedByBoys]

Def quiet, although I lurk a lot. Been blah. I havent used a belt, even thought I was massive with DS2. This one I havent gained anything, and dont look any different and Im 17 weeks today. Zero complaints haha

[Eighme]

Other than my debocle with the Sneak Peek test. I've been pretty "blah" these days. I'm 12 weeks and just feel like crap most of the time. Nauseous sometimes, but overall, low energy and just no drive to do anything. I keep getting headaches and I've never really dealt with those before.

Hope the rest of you are feeling well and hoping everyone's pregnancy is going good!

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[Pretty]

I’m definitely considering some sort of band or belt as well... I just can’t imagine how I’m going to get any bigger, but obviously it’s gonna happen one way or another. Yikes!! I have an anatomy scan coming up, but I did NIPT so no gender excitement (gosh, I hope! I’m pretty sure I’ve seen nub on regular scans though so I don’t anticipate any surprises!) I’m excited to see LO and make sure everything is going well! Honestly, I’m growing very concerned about how I’m going to look for my baby shower. I walk by a mirror and don’t even recognize myself. Sigh... the joys of pregnancy.

[Raining]

I’m 9 1/2 weeks and the sickness is on another level this week. Constantly nauseated and not much helps. Hoping it gets better soon. My next appointment is in a few weeks and I’m on the fence about finding out gender with nipt. Glad everyone is doing ok!

[ABC.2606]

Simkan - good to know, thanks! I think I'm going to try one... I can't imagine how uncomfortable I'm going to be when I get further on. I already feel like my "pregnancy waddle" is starting!

Raining and Hopper - sorry you both have been so sick :( Hopper I'm glad you are feeling at peace with baby being a boy - IF it is a boy!! Like you said either way baby is meant to be!!

Eighme - I definitely had that "feeling like crap all the time" thing go on for many weeks and it sucked. I still can't say I feel great... The nausea is better but not completely gone and I'm still so tired. And I've had headaches this time too :( The other day I had the WORST headache all day long - yuck.

Pretty - I think we're in the same boat as far as feeling huge! I honestly can't believe how big I am already... I've put on something like 20 lbs :( I only gained 25 lbs w/ DS1 and 30 with DS2 so this is insane to me. And to make it worse I've Googled pictures of women with twins in the 3rd trimester and it SCARES me!! Some of them I'm like, how can your belly actually stretch that big?! Sigh. I'm sure you will look beautiful at your shower!!!

I have my anatomy scan in 3 weeks. Really going insane waiting to confirm - for SURE - that there is a baby girl in there. I'm still so mad that last week they could confirm the boy but not completely confirm the girl!! But I'm also anxious to make sure that they look healthy.

[mummaofboys]

Hi ladies. I’ve just bee quieting lurking as well.
I got my nipt results back and they were all low risk which is excellent. I didn’t call my obs office to find out gender...but it is doing my head in knowing it’s written on a piece of paper in my file! Lol!
I’m a radiographer so have access to sonographers at work. I got one of my friends to scan me the other day just to check all is good anatomically because we’re not doing the 13wk scan. All was good... I think I may have seen boy bits but not 100%. My friend assured me that she didn’t see and that even at this gestation (12wks) girls can be quite swollen. So who knows... it did set off some gd though. Don’t get me wrong I’m so happy all is going well, and we still want to stay team green but gee the desire for a girl is real. Deep down I know whatever this little one is, that they are what is meant for our family.
My headaches have still been coming around every 4 weeks, lasting 4 days. So painful. Only just getting over this last one. And to top it off I had conjunctivitis and now am getting a cold. Ahh the joys.


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[Kelbear]

Hey ladies... How is everyone doing? I feel like our board has been fairly quiet lately :)

Has anyone used a maternity belt in pregnancy? I'm thinking about getting one. I'm getting big SO fast and I'm already starting to have back pain (which I never really even had the first two times around!). Just wondering if anyone has any positive/negative experiences!!

I have used a support belt in both my pregnancies (not sure of name as was provided by hospital physio) - it was a lifesaver in the last trimester for both my boys and I have already started wearing it again at 21 weeks this time as I am already getting back and sciatic pain. It is especially helpful when I am at work as I am on my feet 8-10 hours. I don't think I would be able to survive without it towards the end.

[Kelbear]

I know it is an individual thing but I need all you lovely ladies to give me some advice as to team green or find out gender. I wanted to be team green with both my previous pregnancies (happy with this with DS1, DS 2 flashed us so choice was taken away). This pregnancy the GD has been so bad - I am not sleeping as I am constantly thinking about this being another boy and how disappointed i will be and then hoping so much it will be a girl as my morning sickness have been terrible - still sick most days at 21weeks and no food seems to appeal to me (never been this bad with either boy but DS2 was worse than DS1 so makes me think another boy but then I get my hopes up with the OWT that nausea worse with girls - I know it's not true but I am clinging to any hope). We didn't find out gender at anatomy scan as I couldn't face the disappointment the day before DS2's 1st birthday. However the tech said the dr should be able to tell me from the scan pics at my next appointment if I wanted to know. That appointment is now tomorrow and I am sick to my stomach with anxiety over whether to find out gender or not. I don't know I can get through 19 more weeks of hoping then getting so upset when I see people with their DDS and thinking how upset I will be when he is born if I have let mmyself continue to hope there is a chance this is a girl. I am just torn as to what to do. Sorry for the rant but any advise would be appreciated as I know some of you have already found out and others are strongly team green.

[simkan]

I don't really have am answer for you one way or the other.
I was team green for my first 2 and was really happy not knowing and guessing and doing all the OWT. With my first it was more fun because I really didn't care what we were having. With my second I was hoping for a girl but knew we were going for 3 so had another shot. When he was born in think I had GD. The whole birth pretty much shocked me and he arrived a month earlier than expected and I was not at all prepared, he also had to have alot of tests because of abnormalities found during pregnancy so it was all very overwhelming and the fact that he wasn't a girl on top of all the other things was just one more thing that hadn't gone my way.
When I fell pregnant this time I initially thought I'd go team green again but it wasn't fun speculating like before. Every time someone suggested another boy it felt like a personal dig at me. And I was even more annoyed if someone said they thought we'd have a girl because that was getting my hopes up.
I just ripped the bandaid so I could get my head around whatever the result was because having real GD with a newborn would have been too overwhelming for me this time round.

Hope that somewhat helps.
However I have 2 friends that were hoping for girls and went team green. The one has a video (not graphic) of giving birth and finding out she had a daughter. The other has photos and it looks so special. Though they did get what they were hoping for...
I know it is an individual thing but I need all you lovely ladies to give me some advice as to team green or find out gender. I wanted to be team green with both my previous pregnancies (happy with this with DS1, DS 2 flashed us so choice was taken away). This pregnancy the GD has been so bad - I am not sleeping as I am constantly thinking about this being another boy and how disappointed i will be and then hoping so much it will be a girl as my morning sickness have been terrible - still sick most days at 21weeks and no food seems to appeal to me (never been this bad with either boy but DS2 was worse than DS1 so makes me think another boy but then I get my hopes up with the OWT that nausea worse with girls - I know it's not true but I am clinging to any hope). We didn't find out gender at anatomy scan as I couldn't face the disappointment the day before DS2's 1st birthday. However the tech said the dr should be able to tell me from the scan pics at my next appointment if I wanted to know. That appointment is now tomorrow and I am sick to my stomach with anxiety over whether to find out gender or not. I don't know I can get through 19 more weeks of hoping then getting so upset when I see people with their DDS and thinking how upset I will be when he is born if I have let mmyself continue to hope there is a chance this is a girl. I am just torn as to what to do. Sorry for the rant but any advise would be appreciated as I know some of you have already found out and others are strongly team green.

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[Throwaway_panther]

Glad to see posts in here again -- I have so many things to chat about but didn't want to spam the group, haha.

Kelbear, I'm so sorry and understand the struggle. I can at least offer the other side of the Team Green coin -- we found out with DD, and I was insanely depressed the rest of those 20 weeks. Like to the point my therapist was considering medicating me (when I hadn't ever been medicated in my years with her) because I was borderline suicidal and an absolute wreck. And then had a really rough, unusual labor. But the moment I saw her, I was absolutely in love -- there is a photo I have (with my tits out, haha) that our doula took the moment I laid eyes on her, and you can see in my face how I felt. I remember even thinking, "Oh, THIS is the immediate love/bond I heard so much about."

THAT has influenced me for this pregnancy, as I don't want to put my husband and DD through that -- and it was honestly a big reason why I always planned to find out gender early with an NIPT and choose whether to kept it to save us all from the depression. All our losses and DD getting further and further away from the age gap I had hoped for (and DD loooooving babies) changed my plans.

Knowing I at least felt it with DD, I'm hoping those birth hormones will carry me through. Though obviously I have had many a therapy session since wondering if I'm doing the right thing, since hormones can also be all over the place after birth, too.

I know I read somewhere (either here or another gender group) that, "The baby is coming either way. If you're not going to terminate, does it matter when you find out? At least enjoy your pregnancy." THAT resonated with me just because, as I learned, even after YEARS of therapy (and my therapist is great and I spent a good 9 months spewing GD to her lol), I didn't "work my head around" to a girl. It took having my baby to get over it. But I know not everyone would be the same. On the flip side, 98% of people thought I was having a boy with DD. Only DH, his MIL, and my SIL thought she would be a girl. And DH felt girl strongly VERY early (day of BFP).

If I hadn't found out, I would have been going through pregnancy with most people telling me I was getting a boy, and I wanted one so badly that maybe I would have had a VERY different birth experience. Now I'm pretty much "having this baby for DD," so I'm at least keeping green to keep me sane and will just recalibrate at birth if this is a girl. Will I be disappointed? Yes. But I will also be expecting it can be a girl -- as it took finding out I was having the girl I dreaded with DD to find swaying and discover all there was to know with it. Now I'm staying Team Green, and even DH, MIL and SIL also think boy (though SIL says, "I'm usually wrong" -- except she wasn't with me before haha). Am I getting my hopes up? Sometimes. But I'm very good at keeping myself thinking the worst after all we've gone through. I'm still not even banking on this baby making it alive, which is just the morbid reality I face.

I say all this with: tomorrow is our second anatomy scan to get those shots we didn't get last time. I am half wanting to cancel it, because I don't want to run the risk of gender making itself known. And the tech told us they HAVE to document gender to know if things are abnormal, which I am considering saying, "I don't consent to that," because I really don't want to know. I've been very at peace the last two weeks knowing that even tech couldn't figure out... but I am also concerned about that spinal cord and nasal bone!!

I wish I knew what the best choice was. I just know -- you can have a very, very difficult pregnancy of GD if finding out and not have it resolved. I know that firsthand. Birth was the only fix for me, so I'm relying on that this time to carry me through Team Green.

[Throwaway_panther]

And in catching up:

Thanks for checking up on me hopper. Things are better with DH, but things were really bad all week. I think I finally hit the right thing to say to him. But still, I feel a lot of "things being better" is still me just glossing over things. I started reading a book called "Coping with the Passive Aggressive Man" and that's been a rough, but helpful, read.

And eighme, those Sneak Peaks are NOT scientific! They are legit novelty tests. I'm so sorry you did it and now have this stress to worry about. And if you do really end up with a boy, my "intuition for other's pregnancies" is truly at its end haha.

My symptom update: restless legs at night. Holy cow. This is awful. I am SO exhausted all the time now. And my low back is truly, truly excruciating despite chiropractics and I even did a massage. I was complaining to DH last night that I neeeeever felt any of this with DD. I was active and moving and pain free the whole time. Now I'm shy of 22 weeks and hobbling everytime I get up. I'm not that much bigger than I was then, so I can't imagine it's weight related?! Worried it's because I haven't lifted weights this whole time (though I've done lots of walking, yoga and swimming this pregnancy!) that my back is just weak, and maybe this is what all pregnant woman deal with and I was just so muscled with DD to not notice? I keep not letting myself entertain the OWT of low back pain and gender, but my god, this back pain is... impossible to ignore.

I have my midwife appointment and am seriously debating whether to ask her if I should cancel my followup anatomy scan for tomorrow. Obviously the fact that they couldn't get a good nasal bone reading on both nuchal and anatomy has me slightly stressed (though NIPT was fine), and spinal cord too (though I was on SO much folate for so long, I also doubt anything is wrong there). I just so don't want to even potentially risk gender being found out, even by the tech.

[SurroundedByBoys]

We found out with DS1 because we couldnt contain ourselves. Same with DS2, where I did feel a lot of GD throughout the rest of my pregnancy and beyond, but when I got it into my head a name and clothing I got excited he was coming. Also found out with Oops obviously... Im GDing for sure, but I want to meet this stubborn little man who defied all the odds to be made. I was always worried that if I went team green, that at the birth I heard 'Its a Boy!' again, id have that wave of disappointment and I didnt want anything to mar that moment.

[ABC.2606]

Kelbear - oh I wish there was an easy answer. Unfortunately with GD I just don't think there are easy answers. I found out both times with my boys. I wanted a girl with both & thus had GD with both. With DS1 it wasn't too bad - we knew we were going to have at least one more and we wanted at least one boy anyways. But with DS2 I found out at 20 weeks and my GD was BAD. I wasn't totally miserable the rest of pregnancy (I had complications during the pregnancy which sort of "refocused" my mindset bc I was just worried about baby), but I definitely had very strong GD. Then immediately after he was born I suffered a pretty bad postpartum hemorrhage & had two blood transfusions. After we went home and I was recovering from all that trauma, I had a terrible time breastfeeding (as I did with DS1, but even worse), and everything - traumatic birth, BF struggles, my GD boiled up and I'm pretty sure - though I wasn't diagnosed/treated - that I had postpartum depression. To make it worse a month or so after DS2 was born we found out my SIL was pregnant with her 2nd and OF COURSE it was a girl (her first was a boy). So I wish I could say my GD went away before or even after birth but it didn't - I still struggled badly with it for months after he was born and with everything else was pretty depressed. Not to say that I didn't adore him as well - I actually felt we bonded maybe even more than I did with DS1 (probably because of all the drama of that pregnancy & birth). But it just took me a really, really long time to get past the GD. Even now - as I've said on here before - I feel resentment when I see all these women who get boy/girl pigeon pairs without even trying - I don't know why, it just irritates me!

But that all said - while finding out didn't make it easier, I don't think I would have done better going Team Green either. The hope of a girl through the whole 40 weeks would have been too much and I think it would have crushed me even harder if I hadn't found out until birth. For me it's always been the dilemma of do I spend a lot of the pregnancy sad b/c of GD or do I allow myself to hope for 40 weeks only to be disappointed in the end? Which is easier? And honestly - I don't think there is any easy answer to that question, and maybe the truth is that neither is really "easier". But, as all of our experiences show I think it just depends on the person. I think you have to do what you think will be the best situation for YOU - whatever way YOU think you'll adjust better. And it's impossible for any of us to say what that is. But - we're here to support you either way and whatever happens!!

I will say that with this pregnancy we knew we were going to find out, didn't know at what point we'd find out, BUT one thing I did know is that I wanted to find out alone or with just DH and not through a doctor or nurse, at an ultrasound, etc. I didn't want to hear over the phone from a doctor or have an ultrasound tech tell me - I wanted a piece of paper with the genders written on it or the online NIPT report, etc. We found out by looking at our online NIPT results at night after the boys were asleep. I was VERY emotional both before and after we looked at the results. If you aren't sure about tomorrow - maybe you could have the doctor write it down for you so that if/when you decide to look you can do so on your own. Then if you're in private you can react however you want without the awkwardness of being in a doctor's office or ultrasound room. When we found out with DS2 at our anatomy scan I was choking back tears in the scan and I hated that. Especially because I know the tech could see I was disappointed. I think I knew then that if we had another I wanted to find out alone.

Thinking of you... I know none of this had been made easier with how your DH has reacted. Hoping things get easier soon.

[ABC.2606]

TP sorry for all the pain you're going through!! I think it's probably a "2nd pregnancy" thing (and I know it's not your 2nd pregnancy but you know what I mean - 2nd one to progress to this point!). Everything gets so stretched out and out of place the first time around and I don't think things really go back to normal completely afterwards - nor are those ligaments/muscles as strong the 2nd time around. I once heard that after a pregnancy or two (or more) your organs have been shifted around so much that they will never go back exactly where they were before! I don't know if that's true but clearly postpartum bodies are different :) Anyways most women I know had more issues with pain in subsequent pregnancies. I know I did with DS2.

Ahhh the joys of pregnancy :)

Personally I feel like you should keep your scan so you can at least get those needed shots of the spine, nasal bone, etc. I'm sure all is fine but I think it'll make you feel better knowing that. If you do keep the appt maybe just make sure that your MW/tech is VERY clear that you don't want to know gender and that she tells you to look away when she zooms in on that area! Maybe only look at the screen when she's doing the upper half of the body.... With DS2, when the tech started the scan before she zoomed in and we just got a full body shot I swear I saw his stuff immediately! I think tech must have too b/c she was able to tell us the gender within the first two minutes or so. I make very NOT SHY boys apparently - LOL. So an accidental shot is definitely possible but if they are being super careful and you look away when needed I think you can avoid it! I don't know - just my thoughts!

Glad things with DH are a little better... if not great.

[hopper]

TP I'm glad things are somewhat better with your DH. I must look into that book you mentioned as my own DH is being super passive aggressive lately (he's just tired of me being so helpless with being so ill! As if I'm not!!) And I really agree with your reasoning for remaining Team Green this time around. I'd still have the scan though and stress to the tech you are not finding out! Good luck with whatever you decide xxx


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[hopper]

Kelbear just speaking from my own experience here but I went team Green on DS1. Wanted a girl. Thought he was a girl by listening to OWTs. I was so heartbroken finding out SHE was a HE when he was born. Quite honestly it ruined the whole experience and to this day I feel tremendous guilt over it.
We found out on DS2. I knew in my gut he was a boy before ever being told though so I didn't experience huge GD.
Fast forward to DS3. I was convinced he was a girl. I had done a super hard sway for months and changed my lifestyle til it was unrecognizable to before! I saw the boyish nub at my 12 weeks appointment which was my first scan and I felt so sick. I booked in for an early gender scan, even lying about my due date so they'd take me a week earlier. I got the scan at 15 weeks and he was all boy. In those 3 weeks I had taken the time to open myself up to the possibility that baby was indeed a boy so the blow was ever so slightly easier to take but OMG it was hard. GD stuck with me to the very end. I had been a super active poster on these boards but I couldn't face coming here any more. Almost everyone on my DDG had gotten their wanted gender and I felt so robbed. I was in a bad way.

So what I'm basically saying, is that it depends on whether you can address your GD now or after baby is born. Are you open to the idea of baby being a boy? Cause on DS3 I wasn't. It was a girl. I wasn't having another son. The idea never even entered my brain! But because of how severe the desire for a girl was I'm thinking it was easier for me to hear that he was a boy at 15 weeks than to go to 39 weeks thinking girl! I'd have been a helluva lot worse off mentally!
Good luck whatever you do decide to do. Thinking of you xxx

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[hopper]

Girls I'm joined to a private FB DDG from my DS2. We're a small group, of 20 but as with all groups of women you always find at least one you don't get along particularly well with. For me, we'll call her Josie. (No offense to any Josies out there!)
So We just have sick different styles of parenting. She toilet trains the second her kids turn 2. They can't have a pacifier or sippy cup or bottle beyond 12 months. She sends them to a minder at 6 weeks old despite the fact she's off work til they are at least 6 months old.
I just don't see eye to eye but in saying that I'd never openly criticise.
So today she posts about a friend of hers who just had a missed miscarriage. She was 13 weeks but there wasn't so much as a sac there when the tech scanned her according to this girl. Anyway, I commented saying I felt so sorry for her having the mc like that. And this girl replies saying that just cause you've got morning sickness doesn't mean you're safe. And I said what's that supposed to mean to which she replied that her friend had sickness and it's not an indication that everything is ok. I said I'd seen the sac and HB at 6 weeks and I'm sick as a small hospital. She replies "oh well you never know" It just got me so angry! Like, tell me. Is she trying to get my back up and make me paranoid? I had a mc last year which she knows about so surely she knows I'm sensitive to the topic, like most women are whether they've had one or not!
Anyway, don't be minding me. I had to rant somewhere. Sorry it's to you guys!!

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[Noemi2017]

Hi girls, im 11weeks1day, i had today my anatomy scan, all is ok, baby is healthy and very big:oops: i said i didnt want to know gender but doctor said many times he saw gender very well soooo im now sure i expect boy. Im not disappointed ofc i desired my girl my cute daughter but it is Gods decision and for some reason i will mother of boys:car:40235

[Eighme]

Hi girls, im 11weeks1day, i had today my anatomy scan, all is ok, baby is healthy and very big:oops: i said i didnt want to know gender but doctor said many times he saw gender very well soooo im now sure i expect boy. Im not disappointed ofc i desired my girl my cute daughter but it is Gods decision and for some reason i will mother of boys:car:40235Beautiful baby, Noemi! I, unfortunately, am not any good with the nub theory to tell you my opinion one way or the other. You might post in the guessing section and see what everyone else says? If you care to know.

I'm so sorry if it does turn out to be a boy. But he must just have been meant to be for your sweet family. But I'm still rooting a girl for you!

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[ABC.2606]

Hi girls, im 11weeks1day, i had today my anatomy scan, all is ok, baby is healthy and very big:oops: i said i didnt want to know gender but doctor said many times he saw gender very well soooo im now sure i expect boy. Im not disappointed ofc i desired my girl my cute daughter but it is Gods decision and for some reason i will mother of boys:car:40235

Noemi beautiful babe!!!! So happy for you!!!!

I really don’t know though how the doctor could be sure of the gender at 11 weeks! From everything I’ve read on here boy and girl “nubs” look very much the same at 11 weeks. Unless the nub was angled well up or there was clear stacking (which I don’t know if those are even possible at 11 weeks) I don’t think it’s possible to tell!! You could ask atomic but my guess is she might dispute what your doc said about being sure.

Either way though your baby is perfect!!!


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[Noemi2017]

Thx u Eighme, i still little hope for girl, i want to stay Team green but doctor was so sure and he was smiling when my husband said it is boy...i hope u will feel better and no more headache. My nausea finished one week ago. When will u know gender? I pray u will hear girl:pray:

[Throwaway_panther]

Noemi, there's no gender detectable in that shot at all! And that doc was reckless to say he knows gender so early -- even nub experts won't like guess at 12 weeks, let alone 11!

Hopper, I'm so sorry "Josie" said that!! I've definitely had nausea with losses, but to push you noting you had a good scan with "you never know" is really cruel. I get the anxiety for other people's pregnancies (I've full on distanced myself from BFPs posted, since I know how much can go wrong), but I wouldn't ever wish or say that stuff to a pregnant woman! I'd honestly wonder if she's in the "bitter over loss or infertility phase." I find when that is fresh for people, they'll say awful things and push boundaries. I once shared how devastated I was over one of my losses on reddit and a woman told me, "Well I've never even seen a BFP, so at least you have that." People can be so caught up in their feelings they miss what affects other people's :(

[Noemi2017]

Abc thx u so much. Doctor is expert about scans with my son he was 100% sure it is boy in the same week. Now i didnt want to know but when he said he saw it very well so we immediately thought he saw boy parts:)

[Eighme]

Thx u Eighme, i still little hope for girl, i want to stay Team green but doctor was so sure and he was smiling when my husband said it is boy...i hope u will feel better and no more headache. My nausea finished one week ago. When will u know gender? I pray u will hear girl:pray:Well, I agree with the other ladies here. They shouldn't be able to determine anything that early. I didn't pay attention to what week you were. I wouldn't take what he says to heart or his "actions". How rude of him for even mentioning anything when he knows you don't want to know.

Im booking an early gender scan so I can know for sure and stop being in limbo. I should know in the next 3-4 weeks.

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[Girlswaylondon]

Noemi it’s really not accurate at all at 11 weeks! Surprised the doctor is allowed to even mention it!


Beautiful pic!!!! <3

[ABC.2606]

Girls I'm joined to a private FB DDG from my DS2. We're a small group, of 20 but as with all groups of women you always find at least one you don't get along particularly well with. For me, we'll call her Josie. (No offense to any Josies out there!)
So We just have sick different styles of parenting. She toilet trains the second her kids turn 2. They can't have a pacifier or sippy cup or bottle beyond 12 months. She sends them to a minder at 6 weeks old despite the fact she's off work til they are at least 6 months old.
I just don't see eye to eye but in saying that I'd never openly criticise.
So today she posts about a friend of hers who just had a missed miscarriage. She was 13 weeks but there wasn't so much as a sac there when the tech scanned her according to this girl. Anyway, I commented saying I felt so sorry for her having the mc like that. And this girl replies saying that just cause you've got morning sickness doesn't mean you're safe. And I said what's that supposed to mean to which she replied that her friend had sickness and it's not an indication that everything is ok. I said I'd seen the sac and HB at 6 weeks and I'm sick as a small hospital. She replies "oh well you never know" It just got me so angry! Like, tell me. Is she trying to get my back up and make me paranoid? I had a mc last year which she knows about so surely she knows I'm sensitive to the topic, like most women are whether they've had one or not!
Anyway, don't be minding me. I had to rant somewhere. Sorry it's to you guys!!

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OMG how rude!!!! Especially as she knows you’ve had a m/c in the past! After 3 m/c myself I have no tolerance for people who say crappy or insensitive things to women who’ve had them! Even if you hadn’t had one that’s terrible to try to make someone feel worried about their baby! Ugh. Can I tell her to shut up on your behalf? [emoji38]


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[Noemi2017]

Tp i really hope so and pray for his mistake with gender:D still Team green but im convinced it is boy.

[Girlswaylondon]

Also I’ve heard of gender being wrong at 16 weeks let alone 11!!

[Noemi2017]

Hello Girlsway, so happy to hear about u. How r u? Im so looking forward to seeing your baby girl in October:awe:Thx u and we will see in March:) if not now i hope one day i will become mother of my baby girl

[Girlswaylondon]

Hello Girlsway, so happy to hear about u. How r u? Im so looking forward to seeing your baby girl in October:awe:Thx u and we will see in March:) if not now i hope one day i will become mother of my baby girl

Thanks Hun, I’m huge now and definitely ready to meet her! Third trimester is hard work haha! Glad to hear your sickness is gone :)

[Throwaway_panther]

Abc thx u so much. Doctor is expert about scans with my son he was 100% sure it is boy in the same week. Now i didnt want to know but when he said he saw it very well so we immediately thought he saw boy parts:)

Remember even a broken clock is right twice a day :) how he and things like the SneakPeak test seem accurate is because it's always 50/50, and the "happened to guess right" always sticks out to us!

[Eighme]

Remember even a broken clock is right twice a day :) how he and things like the SneakPeak test seem accurate is because it's always 50/50, and the "happened to guess right" always sticks out to us!Exactly! Also, thanks TP! Your response earlier helped. Fingers crossed that your intuition hasn't given out on you just yet for me!

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[hopper]

Thanks TP and ABC re the comments from "Josie". I left it go and just stopped replying and about 20 mins ago I got a PM from her saying she didn't mean to come across insensitive and acts "dopey" sometimes....hmm! I didn't reply to that either. She's just really annoyed me. She has two girls and I know she had GD for a boy since her first DD but she totally denies it and always has. So maybe she is subconsciously lashing out?! I dunno. Either way I'm done with her for today anyway. Normally I'd let comments flow off my back - it's mad how pregnancy can make your mind blow things up!!

Noemi, I'm so so so sure that nubs don't become apparent until 12-13 weeks so please don't let the scan take away your hope. I really hope you will hear what you want at a later scan. When is your next? Congrats on your beautiful baby by the way! Such a great scan pic [emoji179]

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[ABC.2606]

Hi ladies. I’ve just bee quieting lurking as well.
I got my nipt results back and they were all low risk which is excellent. I didn’t call my obs office to find out gender...but it is doing my head in knowing it’s written on a piece of paper in my file! Lol!
I’m a radiographer so have access to sonographers at work. I got one of my friends to scan me the other day just to check all is good anatomically because we’re not doing the 13wk scan. All was good... I think I may have seen boy bits but not 100%. My friend assured me that she didn’t see and that even at this gestation (12wks) girls can be quite swollen. So who knows... it did set off some gd though. Don’t get me wrong I’m so happy all is going well, and we still want to stay team green but gee the desire for a girl is real. Deep down I know whatever this little one is, that they are what is meant for our family.
My headaches have still been coming around every 4 weeks, lasting 4 days. So painful. Only just getting over this last one. And to top it off I had conjunctivitis and now am getting a cold. Ahh the joys.


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BAH! Sorry Mumma I read your post last night and forgot to respond but it's so good to hear from you and to hear that baby is doing well! You are REALLY strong to not find out the gender knowing that it's in your NIPT report!!! That was my plan too - to do the NIPT, let the doctor find out and then wait a while until we found out... but I totally caved and looked up my online NIPT report that evening after the doctor had called me to let me know the results came back! No will power at all :) :) I think it's reassuring your sonographer friend said she really couldn't see any boy parts!!! And as we've been saying just now about Noemi's scan, if you were only 12 weeks it really is still too early to be sure!! Hoping you hear pink!

I so admire all you ladies going Team Green!!! You all have waaaaaaay more patience than I do!!!

[ABC.2606]

Thanks TP and ABC re the comments from "Josie". I left it go and just stopped replying and about 20 mins ago I got a PM from her saying she didn't mean to come across insensitive and acts "dopey" sometimes....hmm! I didn't reply to that either. She's just really annoyed me. She has two girls and I know she had GD for a boy since her first DD but she totally denies it and always has. So maybe she is subconsciously lashing out?! I dunno. Either way I'm done with her for today anyway. Normally I'd let comments flow off my back - it's mad how pregnancy can make your mind blow things up!!

Noemi, I'm so so so sure that nubs don't become apparent until 12-13 weeks so please don't let the scan take away your hope. I really hope you will hear what you want at a later scan. When is your next? Congrats on your beautiful baby by the way! Such a great scan pic [emoji179]

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Ah. So there possibly was some GD behind her comments... Don't worry about it getting to you - it totally would have bugged the crap out of me too!!

[Noemi2017]

Thx u hopper, there is still some hope:pray: next scan in 20weeks. Will u stay Team green? I hope your nausea finishs soon, mine finished in 10weeks.

[hopper]

Thx u hopper, there is still some hope:pray: next scan in 20weeks. Will u stay Team green? I hope your nausea finishs soon, mine finished in 10weeks.Oh there's definitely hope! Are you going to find out at your next scan do you think Noemi? We're staying Team Green so long as baby doesn't flash any bits at us! I'm TOO good at spotting boy parts at this point lol! My nausea is still quite bad though the meds are helping somewhat!! I would be so so grateful if it eases at 10 weeks, that's this weekend for me!! I had it until weeks 18-20 on DS1 & 2 but barely any at all on DS3. That pregnancy was just so easy I'd forgotten how awful the sickness can be!

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[hopper]

Ah. So there possibly was some GD behind her comments... Don't worry about it getting to you - it totally would have bugged the crap out of me too!!Yeah I totally think she is GD motivated. But she is quite unmoving if you get me, so quite hard to get her to really open up. I just distinctly remember she found out she was having her DD1 the same week I found out I was having DS2 and she was so I'm shock but if I brought that up to her now she'd completely deny it. I'm not fully open IRL about my own GD so I kinda get it in a way.

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[Noemi2017]

I still dont want to know gender till birth:D i hope next scan my doctor wont say anything:worry: i really hope u will feel better soon and :fingers:for baby girl

[Kelbear]

Thank you all for you replies and advice re team green or finding out. It has really helped me to think though all the pros and cons. I am still undecided if I will find out. I don't think I can get through til birth with this amount of anxiety about gender as it is really affecting my sleep (wake up multiple times a night and can't sleep as just keep stressing about this being DS3 and never getting my little girl and then replaying the 20w scan in my mind (we never got potty shots) and thinking maybe there is a chance and I know in my case hope is dangerous as the disappointment at birth will be so hard to deal with and then I worry about dH and how he will take it at birth too) but I don't want to cry in front of the dr. I think I will ask if he can write it down for me (but same hospitals radiographer said it was against policy and refused!) but I doubt he will. Might say I'm happy for him to write "likely male/female" to cover him if it turns out the opposite to what he writes. Then I can look at it in privacy when I am ready and maybe when I am seeing my psychologist soon to help me work through it (still suffering bad post natal depression which developed after DS2 was born - had a bit with DS1 but bad with DS2 due to lack of sleep, GD and family issues. I am just worried finding out it's a boy will send me spiralling backwards again just when I have been getting back on top of things).

Noemi I hope you get to hear girl when your baby is born, I really don't think they can tell gender at 11 weeks. I looked back at my two DS's ultrasounds and DS1 was at 11+6 and it was very unclear if he was boy or girl, DS2 had a very boy nub but that was at 12+5. So sorry your dr made any comment particularly when you said you didn't want to find out.

Hopper I hope you have another scan soon just to reassure you after those insensitive comments. Try not to stress as you have already seen a heartbeat and that is a great sign.

TP hope your anatomy scan goes well and you get the necessary pics of nasal bone and spine without seeing any gender clues.

Hope everyone else is going ok. You ladies are an amazing support especially when not many people around me understand GD at all.

[mummaofboys]

BAH! Sorry Mumma I read your post last night and forgot to respond but it's so good to hear from you and to hear that baby is doing well! You are REALLY strong to not find out the gender knowing that it's in your NIPT report!!! That was my plan too - to do the NIPT, let the doctor find out and then wait a while until we found out... but I totally caved and looked up my online NIPT report that evening after the doctor had called me to let me know the results came back! No will power at all :) :) I think it's reassuring your sonographer friend said she really couldn't see any boy parts!!! And as we've been saying just now about Noemi's scan, if you were only 12 weeks it really is still too early to be sure!! Hoping you hear pink!

I so admire all you ladies going Team Green!!! You all have waaaaaaay more patience than I do!!!

Thanks you. I hope I hear pink but not holding my breath.

Haha trust me it’s hard!!! I will probably cave.... especially when I see my obs and I know the nipt report will just be sitting there in my file [emoji57]


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[gafan]

Hi girls, im 11weeks1day, i had today my anatomy scan, all is ok, baby is healthy and very big:oops: i said i didnt want to know gender but doctor said many times he saw gender very well soooo im now sure i expect boy. Im not disappointed ofc i desired my girl my cute daughter but it is Gods decision and for some reason i will mother of boys:car:40235beautiful baby, Noemi. I am happy to hear baby is healthy. FX maybe a girl, you dont know yet

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[simkan]

Noemi as everyone said would be very unusual to see something clearly at 11 weeks. But if he did it doesn't mean it's cuz he saw boy.
At my 12 week scan, we already knew the gender this time cuz we had the NIPT results. And the ultrasound technician asked if we were going to find out and I said we already know it's a girl and she said wasn't going to say anything but could see very clearly that it was a girl... so I guess it really can go either way. Just pretend the whole conversation didn't happen and prepare yourself for either way. :)

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[Kelbear]

Had my drs appointment today, asked if she could write down results for me to open at home - she was happy to but one problem - she couldn't tell! Wasn't documented in ultrasound report and she briefly looked through a few of the scan pics but didn't have time to look properly so couldn't tell me so we will just have to wait. Unfortunately she did tell me there might be a problem with the placenta as there is some casing or sheath around some of it (was told by ultrasound tech at scan everything looked ok) which was a bit of a shock and baby measuring small on the scan (16% percentile) so I have to have another growth scan at 24 weeks and 28 weeks (if we get that far). Now I have something else to worry about as well as the gender speculation, just praying Bub makes it to 24 weeks minimum but hoping to make it to28 weeks to give Bub a fighting chance. Not at all what I was expecting to hear today and a bit in shock.

[simkan]

Sorry you have an extra worry and stress Kelbear. Strange that at your ultrasound they said all looks good. Try not to worry. Also I really dislike the whole percentile thing. It causes so much unnecessary worry. And they're not even accurate. I was told my first was 50th percentile and he came out 90th, and was told my second was the 96th percentile when he was born get was actually the 20th. Hope everything turns out fine with your placenta, I have no idea what that means. Just take it easy x

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[Noemi2017]

Kelbear im sorry to hear about your problems with placenta, i pray it is ok and baby is safe and healthy. This is now the most important:pray:

[Noemi2017]

Thx u gafan. I will know in March. First i didnt feel any disappointment and i was and i am happy for healthy baby boy or girl. But yesterday evening i was thinking maybe i will never have my baby girl, my dream wont become true so i was crying. After i was upset and sorry i was sad. It was not fair, my baby is gift from God and i should be grateful. I try to fight with my feelings but i also understand now all girls which go through GD.

[Throwaway_panther]

Omg Kel, I am so sorry to hear you had a shocking scan. At first I thought it was funny how we both had been wrestling with Team Green to be explicitly told we can't know gender at our scans -- but now to be told the placenta has issues is so scary.

I will say: these scans are highly imperfect, especially at general/normal techs with OBs. Is there a specialist they can refer you to? The growth can definitely be imperfect -- my poor friend was induced early because of IUGR with her first who ended up being normal at birth, I was told DD's stomach was in the 4th percentile indicating an issue, etc. (she didn't; she was born as normal and perfect as could be), and these were in later scans, let alone at the "still ambiguous middle point" scans. I am so, so sorry about all the compounding stress you're under now. I am really hoping your follow up scans give you some relief -- though I know if you're like me, each scan will bring stress right before between worrying what it will show AND the GD!!

[Throwaway_panther]

And as for me, an update: we are still going to follow up scan. I had my my midwife appointment yesterday and she really encouraged me to go still, even though I expressed how much they give me anxiety (which is true -- not just GD related, but also the nerves each time of seeing something wrong).

But in some weirdness, she went to show me the report and stopped to go, "Oh! Wait, are you finding out?" and I said, "Oh, we don't want to but she said she couldn't even see it." But the report said "normal genitals" but no gender. She said that was odd as usually they'll include it regardless as it's for the professional staff only. Then all the things we were told we were checking today (nasal bone, spine, cord) were different -- they had TONS of heart stuff listed that was not seen. I was even asking, "Are we sure this is my chart?!" haha. She said she'd call the office (the scans are never done in the midwives office) -- but she trusts the supervising doctor over there, so she must have seen what she needed to on one hand and not enough of the other. But since it's heart stuff, my midwife said it's pretttyy important to check those.

Though now, of course, I am stressing that if the doctor somehow saw genitals that the tech didn't see, it'd have to be a girl since she'd have investigated 3 lines I feel (how could a tech miss a penis and a doctor see it just from pictures?!). :( At first I had had this feeling it was a boy upon seeing that on the report, but now of course I've analyzed the heck out of everything and am back to thinking it's probably a girl sigh.

I did notice heartrate was much lower on the anatomy scan (which I had asked not to hear so it didn't stoke my GD anxiety), and it was lower at the appt (low 140 instead of the low 150s), and I did briefly get excited thinking, "Omgosh, my chiropractor just told me how both her boys started as high as 160-170 and got down to 130-140s as time went on," but of course I Googled and EVERYONE's gets lower haha. So I'm just dreading this scan in general since I'm sure I'll catch NO genitals (especially since it's even later in development now) and know it's a girl.

[Noemi2017]

Tp heartrate of my baby was 177. I hope your scan goes well and u dont see any genital parts. I think it is better to know gender of baby after birth so u can enjoy pregnany and dont be sad. I pray there is baby boy for u:pray:

[Throwaway_panther]

Tp heartrate of my baby was 177. I hope your scan goes well and u dont see any genital parts. I think it is better to know gender of baby after birth so u can enjoy pregnany and dont be sad. I pray there is baby boy for u:pray:

Thank you Noemi, just as I pray your baby is your longed for baby girl! Let's stay strong as Team Green together so hopefully we won't be sad these pregnancies! <3

[Eighme]

I'm so sorry, Kelbear! I'm praying and hoping your placental issue dissolves and you and little one are healthy!

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[Eighme]

TP, would the doctor right down "normal gentials" if they knew you didn't want to know? Just wondering. When is your next scan? Hoping you and little one are good and that little one is actually a little bub for you!

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[Throwaway_panther]

I imagine, but my midwife said they will say gender even if we don't want to know just for records. And they did say on the form that they couldn't get all of cord. So idk... maybe my insistence to tech that we really not check genitals led to this? lol. Next scan is this afternoon EST!

Already just over it. lol spent all morning ignoring work to try and figure out what I'll do after this baby for a sway...

[Eighme]

Possibly, maybe they got flustered and just wrote something for the sake of writing. I'm anxious to hear how it goes this afternoon!

Also, same boat, I just resigned myself to that I'm probably having another boy (I won't know for sure for awhile, I think I'm just trying not get my hopes up) and I'm already planning my sway in my head after this one is born.

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[ABC.2606]

Kelbear - Ugh I'm so sorry for the worry you are now having to deal with! I don't understand what sheath or casing around a placenta would mean - did she say? Does she think it might be IUGR? As others have said I feel like they are often wrong about growth estimates, and I really do believe babies grow at different rates despite the "normal" growth track they are supposed to follow. Could you get a scan done through a perinatal specialist/high risk doc? I had one of these with DS2 (I had bleeding issues in the pregnancy) and WOW - they have really high tech, sophisticated equipment that's able to see a lot! I'm going to go back to that same high risk doc for my anatomy scan in a few weeks. Maybe your doc would recommend sending you to one? You'd probably get a lot more information than from a regular ultrasound.

TP - I really doubt the "normal genitals" thing means anything... I mean normally they would have written gender so if they didn't write that down it probably really is because the tech didn't know. And if the tech didn't know and couldn't get a shot of it I doubt the doctor could tell from a pic. I've noticed with my tech (I get an ultrasound every appt) that when she gets a good "shot" of something, she freezes the frame and prints it. Whatever the tech printed out for the doc to see, I'm sure the tech would have seen if there were genitals in the pics she was giving to the doc. Also HB means nothing!!! I have B/G twins (I hope!) and their HBs have been both high and almost the same as each other the whole time - started out 122 & 134, then 176 & 185, then 167 & 160, and this last scan 157 and 150. This last scan where she identified the boy he had the 157 and the "girl" was 150.

[Throwaway_panther]

Thank you Eighme and ABC! Ugh, my mom just told me she thinks the baby is a girl and now I'm bummed. I pointed out she thought DD was a boy the whole time, and she said, "No I thought girl!" She was literally referring to her as "he" and warning me about letting him play American football the whole time... lol, so I know I shouldn't necessarily count her intuition for anything, but still. She is the first "girl" guess outside of some stranger and it hurts to hear, especially the day of ny anxiety inducing scan!

[Girlswaylondon]

TP everyone guessed girl for my DS! Thankfully I had no gender preference at the time so didn’t mind! But anyway, they were all wrong :p

[Eighme]

Thank you Eighme and ABC! Ugh, my mom just told me she thinks the baby is a girl and now I'm bummed. I pointed out she thought DD was a boy the whole time, and she said, "No I thought girl!" She was literally referring to her as "he" and warning me about letting him play American football the whole time... lol, so I know I shouldn't necessarily count her intuition for anything, but still. She is the first "girl" guess outside of some stranger and it hurts to hear, especially the day of ny anxiety inducing scan!Don't listen to others. I always try to correct them that we don't know the gender and OWT were just that OLD WIVES TALES. My sister in law had classic OWT syptoms and everyone was so convinced it was a girl, but HE is very much a boy.

I know it is definitely hard to not mind others opinions, especially your own mother's. But keep your head up! You have your chance at a son just like the rest of us!

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[simkan]

Don't let peoples guesses get to you TP. Perhaps tell them to focus their intuition elsewhere... like winning lottery ticket numbers. I would say to my mom (or whoever was guessing) that I don't want to speculate and everyone will find out at the birth. I've said before that not one person guessed boy for our second. And before we got the nipt results this time round my mom was very much pushing for me to prepare for a 3rd boy. People generally guess what they think you want to hear or what you don't to try soften the blow later. Ignore it

And with regards to the results on your scan. Maybe the tech did see and just told you they couldn't do you wouldn't look for clues knowing you really don't want to know. I know my OB didn't have the gender written for either of my other pregnancies.
At my firsts birth I told her I was having a boy based on intuition and she was so sceptical. She definitely did not have the gender written on any chart.
At my second the midwife said "she" when I got into the hospital and then my OB said "he" during the birth. They didn't know. They just picked a pronoun and went with it.

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[ABC.2606]

TP how did the scan go?

I wouldn’t worry about your mom. My stepmom thought DS2 was a girl - said she had a strong feeling it was!


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[Throwaway_panther]

Thank you ladies, I really really appreciate it. Scan was just passably ok, haha. Still almost didn't get the shots we needed since baby was in same stubborn position and had to do a whole lot of moving again.

But I had sort of a meltdown after. Tech knew we didn't want gender, but asked what we had at home. She sort of just went, "Oh ok" noncommittally, which threw me off and made me think she knew. Then she kept showing the stomach/cord and I saw NOTHING between legs. Even DH went, "Should we be seeing this?" She said she couldn't even see gender there so she wasn't sure what she thought we saw. But I am feeling very much like this can't be anything but a girl, and I have been bummed and really upset DH further. I wish I had canceled this scan

[simkan]

Awe TP please don't stress. Her reaction doesn't sound like it gave anything away. She also has no idea what you'd be hoping for so her reaction could mean anything...
I didn't see anything with DS2 and even though I was team green I looked. Glad you did get the shots you needed in the end. :)

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[ABC.2606]

I think techs are trained to not show any emotion with gender. With my boys and the scan I had last week, I’ve never had a tech show any kind of emotion when telling me the gender.

I hope your not seeing anything between the legs doesn’t mean anything. I would hope too that if the gender was visible at all, either boy or girl, she would not have been showing you that area! FWIW the tech last week found baby boy’s “stuff” in like three seconds- I was watching the whole time and I didn’t see anything! I don’t know what she was talking about! I just asked her “oh so his stuff is pretty visible?” and she said yea. But I really didn’t see it. Their eyes are way better trained than ours I guess!


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[Eighme]

TP, I am pretty certain they aren't supposed to show any emotion when handling stuff like that. They are trained to be calm, especially in the event something doesn't look right because they don't want to start a panic if they don't have to.

I'm sorry it didn't go so well for you. I wouldn't give up yet! How many weeks are you now?

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[Throwaway_panther]

I wish I could take heart in what you guys are saying, but I really feel as gutted as if we had been told girl. And DH is right back to being awful because of me expressing any of this, even for a few minutes. Feel like I put myself through hell the first time for him, now hell for DD, and went through hell as all our boys just died in utero. I wouldn't feel so resentful if he wasn't such a flaming piece of garbage, but I'm just coming to terms more and more with how much of an asshole he is. To his family, to me. Just not to DD -- lucky her.

22w tomorrow.

[Mommy2apples]

Oh hugs tp. I very much do hope you hear your desired gender and keep you in my prayers, as I do robin, abc, hgmama, mummy2boys, and Noemi. Just to name a few.


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[ABC.2606]

I'm sorry TP :( It's really crappy the way he's treating you - especially with everything you've been through.

[Kelbear]

I wish I could take heart in what you guys are saying, but I really feel as gutted as if we had been told girl. And DH is right back to being awful because of me expressing any of this, even for a few minutes. Feel like I put myself through hell the first time for him, now hell for DD, and went through hell as all our boys just died in utero. I wouldn't feel so resentful if he wasn't such a flaming piece of garbage, but I'm just coming to terms more and more with how much of an asshole he is. To his family, to me. Just not to DD -- lucky her.

22w tomorrow.

TP I am so sorry your DH is being like this, wish I could give you a big hug and wish we could send our DHs to some sort of 'how to be a decent supportive husband' course. Some times they can be such a**holes (actually most of the time for us by the sounds of it). My DH's response to me saying I was stressed and worried about there being a problem with my placenta was to blame me and say "I told you it was a bad idea to keep this baby". Have never felt so upset and alone. I hope you and DH can get get through this and that you do indeed have a little DS growing in there. Don't give up hope because of ultrasound tech. I keep thinking ours is a boy because tech said dr would be able to tell us but she didn't have time to look properly so back to over analysing like you. I hope all the other results in your scan came back ok (heart, nasal bone, spine etc) so you can put your mind at ease with that.

[Mommy2apples]

Kelbear I’m sorry dh is being so inconsiderate. No one deserves to be treated like that. A husband is supposed to be supportive☹️


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[Kelbear]

Kelbear I’m sorry dh is being so inconsiderate. No one deserves to be treated like that. A husband is supposed to be supportive☹️


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Thanks for your words of support, I know they are but somehow mine missed that memo this pregnancy. Have suspected since the beginning of this pregnancy that he wouldn't be that supportive but had thought if things got bad he would be there, I was wrong.

[Noemi2017]

Tp i send u big hug, pls try not to be sad. You have daughter which needs u and ignore husband. Tech didnt say girl or boy so nothing is sure till the birth (the same for me) still there is some hope:pray:

[Noemi2017]

Kelbear im also sorry for your problems and for your husbands behavior. Some men are like that:( if u have somebody close to u speak about it, it will help:heart:i will also pray everything is ok for u

[Throwaway_panther]

Oh Kelbear, that is such a monstrous thing for him to say. I am so sorry he said that.

Should you and I just run off to a commune with our kids? lol. Sometimes I feel like men are nothing but glorified sperm donors with how they act -- and mine isn't a great one, at that! It's part of why I so desperately want my own boy, to raise to be empathetic and understanding. Something that seems sorely missed in so much of this generation of men!

You need support. I need support. I feel like getting pregnant is the worst thing that has happened between DH and me, and I'm realizing it's because I'm not 100% able to do everything on my own or for him when I am. He loves the end result but not the part to get to it? And I'm sure your DH will also love this baby, no matter the sex, but in the meantime -- it's awful how awful he's being about it! I wonder if it's because of similar reasons to my husband, and not anything to do with the baby itself.

I know, for me, it just contributes to the GD and envy. I feel like I don't get anything I want in my life when i'm sitting here feeling the GD and also realizing my husband is offering such little positivity in my life. I keep reading the "Coping with the Passive Aggressive Husband," which I recommend for you too Kelbear, but it is also a brutal read. There are just so many things that match my life, and there are frequent recommendations to "leave" when things just don't ever get better with these men...

[4blue2pink]

TP at this point the only way to clearly see gender is to get a potty shot, i promise you none of my 4 confirmed-on-scan boys were obviously boys from any view other than the potty shot, i even felt hope for a girl each time not seeing boy parts as they scanned about in all other angles including stomach and front views etc but then BAM got underneath them and there it all was!! you are still 50/50 for this baby i promise you that :heart: cant believe your dh is still being like this :( xx

kelbear when do you find out sex for this baby? im so sorry your husband said that :heart: i have everything crossed for the placenta issue to resolve for you xx

[Eighme]

TP and Kelbear, I am so sorry you are dealing with such shitty circumstances. I wish I had better advice to give! Are your husband's usually this shitty or just during pregnancy? Either way it isn't right and no one or person should have to deal with abuse.


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[Throwaway_panther]

So DH was definitely shitty during my pregnancy with DD. But not like this, for sure.

But we've been together 10 years and he's honestly been shitty for most of them. Have you ever encountered someone that everyone likes, sort of the "lovable" asshole where there shit is a quirk? Because that's my husband. He's always been obnoxious with his beliefs to people, quick to make someone feel stupid -- but just has this guileless personality that makes you kind of just go, "Oh, that's just him." And I think I have been excusing this as "not wanting to change him" for so long that I missed that this was a form of abuse. There's definitely other stuff with him. A history of sexual abuse we did a lot of counseling to get over, though he still admits he never hurt me... I don't know. He's just an extremely passive aggressive man, who's so good at being passive aggressive that I've felt it's all me until recently.

[Eighme]

OMG, TP! I am horrified for you and so sorry that type of abuse and behavior is the norm. No one should be treated that way by the people they love. Is staying somewhere for awhile an option for you?

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[Mommy2apples]

Should’ve said tp, not abc sorry ☹️ this makes me hurt for you. I’m so sorry you and kelbear both are going through this.


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[Mommy2apples]

That should’ve said tp, not abc.


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[gafan]

9 weeks and heartbeat confirmed! I got to see some kicking. So far all is well. Due to my age I'm going to get some genetic testing in a few weeks so in the next 2 to 4 weeks I hope more good news is to come.

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[Eighme]

9 weeks and heartbeat confirmed! I got to see some kicking. So far all is well. Due to my age I'm going to get some genetic testing in a few weeks so in the next 2 to 4 weeks I hope more good news is to come.

Sent from my SM-G930U using TapatalkWonderful to see some good news, Gafan! Can't wait to find out what you're having!

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[SurroundedByBoys]

Congrats gafan!

TP & Kel, I fully sympathize with you. I have been with my husband 14 years, married for 9. We have had a lot of ups and downs, and he is a total asshole sometimes. In 2015 he wanted a divorce and actually started seeing another woman from his job. Worst 6 months of my life, I was so ill from stress. He ended up coming back after learning the grass wasnt greener and lo and behold, I treated him a lot better and didnt just stare at my phone 24/7. I took him back with the this will not happen again speech. And I wouldnt, my heart couldnt handle it.
With Oops, he was a total piece of crap. He wanted me to get an abortion so badly. He would yell, try to get me to see things his way, threaten that Id be lucky if he stayed. Shut him up real fast when I told him to leave then, this babies life was more important to me. I did see his side, we had just downsized house, just started to enjoy life and spending alone time together with the boys being in school full time etc. However, I had an abortion many years ago when I was young... I almost chickened out then, but went through with it because my mom threatened to throw me out if she ever found out I was pregnant and I had nowhere else and little options at 17. I have never forgiven myself and to this day think about what could have been and still cry. I could never do it again. I feel guilty enough. Sometimes I wonder if having all boys and all special needs is my 'karma' for doing what I did, and feel like a horrible human for thinking that. Its rough all around.

I just want everyone to know, if youre suffering with spouse drama, GD, or anything... I am an open book and willing to listen to all. :heart:
Im on Facebook often Valerie Zeller (in North Carolina) if wanted.

[Pretty]

You are all such strong women!!

[ABC.2606]

Gafan wonderful!!!!! So is it the NIPT you are doing? Will you find out gender? So glad there’s a growing little bean in there! I know you were nervous about that first scan.

Surrounded - wow, your DH has put you through a lot as well. Has he come around more now about Oops? I’m sure he’ll be crazy over him when he arrives!! I’m sorry for what you went through as a teenager - that’s really hard. But I’m quite sure your boys’ issues are not karma! I know we only know them through pictures but they are SO cute!!!

I just want to say ladies... you girls dealing with this husband crap... you all are tough as nails!!! I can’t imagine dealing with that kind of insensitivity and lack of support especially during pregnancy!!! My DH is certainly not perfect but I’m thankful he’s supportive and certainly patient, as I make a pretty crazy pregnant woman!! I admire you all though in having to deal with all this and your continued positivity and strength. I hope all of these guys get their heads out of their you know whats soon and start acting right!!!


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[SurroundedByBoys]

Ehhhhhhhh... not really ABC. He said the day of my scan "If its a girl I think things will change." and as you know, its not and things havent really changed. A little better I guess, no more threats to leave or anything. But that hit me right in the GD as well, because he wanted a girl too.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hey ladies, I'd like to share with those who need it a blog I came across a couple days back which I've spent a LOT of time reading since then and recognizing a lot of my marriage issues there. There are 16 of these different types of coercive control tactics and I really urge you to read through all of them, not only the ones you think will apply. I started off thinking "well he doesn't do that thing, or that thing" but then I read them and was like OMG he does all the things. :/ The first one is here, the subsequent ones are linked at the end of every essay. https://speakoutloud.net/intimate-partner-abuse/one-sided-power-games

[ABC.2606]

Ehhhhhhhh... not really ABC. He said the day of my scan "If its a girl I think things will change." and as you know, its not and things havent really changed. A little better I guess, no more threats to leave or anything. But that hit me right in the GD as well, because he wanted a girl too.

Ugh. Well that’s annoying! You already have GD so I’m sure him saying that doesn’t help!!


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[gafan]

Gafan wonderful!!!!! So is it the NIPT you are doing? Will you find out gender? So glad there’s a growing little bean in there! I know you were nervous about that first scan.

Surrounded - wow, your DH has put you through a lot as well. Has he come around more now about Oops? I’m sure he’ll be crazy over him when he arrives!! I’m sorry for what you went through as a teenager - that’s really hard. But I’m quite sure your boys’ issues are not karma! I know we only know them through pictures but they are SO cute!!!

I just want to say ladies... you girls dealing with this husband crap... you all are tough as nails!!! I can’t imagine dealing with that kind of insensitivity and lack of support especially during pregnancy!!! My DH is certainly not perfect but I’m thankful he’s supportive and certainly patient, as I make a pretty crazy pregnant woman!! I admire you all though in having to deal with all this and your continued positivity and strength. I hope all of these guys get their heads out of their you know whats soon and start acting right!!!


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[Kelbear]

Hey ladies, I'd like to share with those who need it a blog I came across a couple days back which I've spent a LOT of time reading since then and recognizing a lot of my marriage issues there. There are 16 of these different types of coercive control tactics and I really urge you to read through all of them, not only the ones you think will apply. I started off thinking "well he doesn't do that thing, or that thing" but then I read them and was like OMG he does all the things. :/ The first one is here, the subsequent ones are linked at the end of every essay. https://speakoutloud.net/intimate-partner-abuse/one-sided-power-games


Thanks for this link atomic, I have read the first one and will work my way through the others when I get time, going to open my eyes to a lot that I try to pretend doesn't happen in my relationship but I know knowledge and facing up to reality ultimately leads to the power to face and possibly change things even if that means facing the reality that I need to do this parenting journey alone.

[Eighme]

Are you ladies having any cravings yet? Mine have hit this last week and I just want fruit, yogurt, granola, and today I even had orange juice (I will usually pass on this ).also, salads. Coffee has started making me nauseous; smell and drinking, meat is out most of the time, and I don't like chocolate (so sad [emoji53])

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[Pretty]

This whole pregnancy I’ve craved salads and fruit. I ate a ton of pastries in an attempt to curb nausea, but still enjoy them now (always have LOL) I went vegetarian for my sway and recently introduced a bit back into my diet but haven’t enjoyed it and will probably just stop eating meat again. Ohhhh I love chocolate and definitely haven’t cut back on it :)

[Pretty]

Oh I did go through a yogurt phase as well ;)

[simkan]

Are you ladies having any cravings yet? Mine have hit this last week and I just want fruit, yogurt, granola, and today I even had orange juice (I will usually pass on this ).also, salads. Coffee has started making me nauseous; smell and drinking, meat is out most of the time, and I don't like chocolate (so sad [emoji53])

Sent from my SM-G950U using TapatalkAlso have wanted citrus fruits. I've never had any-crazy I need to eat that now! Cravings with any of my pregnancies. But have wanted that more than usual. Also wouldn't say I'm off chocolate. I'll definitely eat it if its in front of me. But dont necessarily feel like it as much as usual. Was also very much of any meat in the first trimester.


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[Noemi2017]

Eighme my friends who have craved in pregnancy oranges or orange juice all had daughters :) i have craved in first pregnany lemons and ice:Dnow i dont have any special preferences but few weeks ago i could drink just fresh orange juice now im not drinking it anymore so who knows:wink:

[ABC.2606]

My cravings change by the day - LOL! I started out the pregnancy with a lot of aversions and not really wanting to eat and now I want everything pretty much!!! And unfortunately the scale seems to be reflecting that...


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[Throwaway_panther]

Thank you for posting that atomic. DH is definitely #6 and #10 so far, and I dread getting to the sexual abuse part...

Eighme, unfortunately we don't have much places to go. My FIL is abusive and my own mother is still with my abusive father, so family is out of the picture. My friends have offered before, but leaving never feels like the right thing.

Surrounded, you are a hell of a woman to have survived what you have. Your DH sure sounds like a piece of work. Can we all start meaning "DH" as Damn Husband instead of Darling Husband? lol

Noemi, lemon and ice were frequent cravings with my DD haha! I also craved red meat with her. No cravings really at all this whole pregnancy except one day where I HAD to have salt and vinegar chips haha. Mostly just hungry and no aversions to anything!

[hopper]

I'm just full of complete food aversion at this point. It's beyond frustrating!! I'm not liking many sweet things which is not like me at all. If I feel I'm weak from the constant nausea/vomiting I may have a square of milk chocolate but that's plenty. It's just the aversions now, if I can get past them I don't care what I crave lol.

I've gained weight tho which is a first for me at this stage of pregnancy. I'm up 3lbs which is AMAZING considering the vomiting!! DH is seriously concerned about twins as I'm already showing, tho that may just be the fact this is numero 4!!

I napped today for 3 hours! It was bliss! DS3 is awfully wakeful at night the past while and the terrible twos are in full swing so I really really needed the rest!!

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[Raining]

Now that I’m almost 11 weeks my nausea has gone away almost completely. While I’m thankful I’m a tad worried and hope everything is fine. My aversions and sickness were so bad. Now that it’s lessened I hope I’m able to eat a bit healthier.

Finding out the gender in the next few weeks and I’m SO nervous/excited.

[gafan]

My cravings, if they are cravings, are fir cereal and breads. Maybe I just went into cereal withdrawal while swaying, though!

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[Throwaway_panther]

Now that I’m almost 11 weeks my nausea has gone away almost completely. While I’m thankful I’m a tad worried and hope everything is fine. My aversions and sickness were so bad. Now that it’s lessened I hope I’m able to eat a bit healthier.

Finding out the gender in the next few weeks and I’m SO nervous/excited.

For nausea to lessen or go away at 11 weeks is SUPER normal :

[Noemi2017]

Raising my nausea has gone away at 10 weeks:)

[Noemi2017]

Tp good to know that cravings dont show gender:D

[Throwaway_panther]

Tp good to know that cravings dont show gender:D

Haha, I had an aversion to sweets and coffee my whole pregnancy with DD! Definitely don't buy into the OWT :P

[hannahptrussell]

Hello ladies! I’m glad to hear I wasn’t the only one having a bit of a break from the board. I’ve read through and have such mixed feelings when I need to catch up with 5+ pages. I wish I could take you all to coffee and just encourage you!! To say I understand and just to listen.
Kelbear I’m so sorry to hear that the ultrasound didn’t go as smoothly as we all think they will. Praying for time to be on your side and that baby gets nice and comfy until full term!
TP, I absolutely hate to ready your turmoil. It drives me crazy to think that you deal with SO much on top of possible gd. My thoughts are with you! Also, just to agree with others, I’ve NEVER been able to tell gender from my scans other than a potty shot. And even then, my boys liked to cross their legs so their bits were hiding for quite a while during the scan. And I’m going to boast a bit that I’m a heck of an ultrasound reader after having 4 kids. I can point out exactly what is what at all time.
So that being said...I’m really second guessing my choice of team green. My scan is tomorrow afternoon and there’s a part of me that just wants to find out and celebrate or deal with the sex right now. Then there’s part that truly wants the surprise at birth. There’s a part that truly desires a daughter but then I find myself being open to another son. I mean, I definitely know boys! After 3, I know what to expect. But we would LOVE to hear girl. Ugh. But. After talking to a few friends, I am resolute that I will decide and then move on. Either way.


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[LMSM]

Hello ladies,

Hope you and your belly bubs are doing well.
Just wondering if any of you have heard from Kittendreams? :( She’s not responded to my last PM so am worrying and hope one of you might have heard???

Thanks!!!!

[Kelbear]

Wasn't going to find out gender til next scan In 2 1/2 weeks but got this potty shot from 19w scan. Only shot they had. Thinking boy (looks like willy to me in the middle) ? Need your expert guesses as I'm going out of my mind crazy as I'm not sure.

40267

[Throwaway_panther]

Thanks hannah, that means a lot to me. And my existing GD is part of why anything with DH seems so much worse -- I'm trying so hard to keep myself afloat and going, and his stuff just compounds it so much.

It helps to have heard so much of you say you couldn't tell gender with scans -- this second tech had even said (since she never made us turn our head, but the first tech did -- maybe because the first tech was younger and less experienced and the older tech knew it was harder to tell?), "Unless you know how to read scans, you're fine looking, I can't even see gender," during one of the times my husband asked if we should be seeing the scan. But I was a bit of a Hermione and felt like I'd seen so many scans that I totally could tell it was a girl. But I'm realizing now that I'm not as much of a know-it-all as I thought ;P I've seen some surprising nub shots lately, and I always sort of passively though skull theory was nearly as good as nub, and I've been wrong on several lately -- which hopefully is good! I thought my early scans were boyish skulls, but during this second anatomy scan when we could actually see profile I thought skull was so smooth and round! Ugh, always obsessing.

And I go through periods of actually feeling this is a boy, and obsessing over our history and my sway and second guessing so many things and just already dreading the waiting process before we can try again -- and REALLY dreading going through all of this again, because I can't weather anymore losses.

I had a dream of son the other night -- but he had special needs. Interestingly, I had had a dream with DD of her being a girl with down syndrome before I knew gender as well, though this dream my son didn't have DS but some other clear developmental issue. In the dream the doctor was saying we needed to do a procedure to put him back in me since he came so early? So that was strange. But also hasn't left my mind since now (if anyone is keeping score), I have had two dreams of a girl -- but never seeing a girl, just being told it's a girl by my mom (who guessed girl the other week lol). Two dreams of having a boy and actually seeing a boy, including my mom saying, "It's a boy, we needed a boy," in one of them. And then one dream where I looked down at a brown/auburn haired baby and they had a diaper on lol, but I felt in the dream, "Well great, this must mean it's a girl." In both boy dreams, I was in hospital early because baby came early -- I'm sure that's my thoughts on loss that have affected it, though believe it or not, much of that is not on my mind as much anymore (GD has definitely surpassed loss in terms of anxiety, maybe because I am practically at viability now). And I might be back here in December/January bemoaning not going into labor, but I have been having an inkling baby would come early and these dreams are making me feel that more. DD did come right on time and all my doctors/midwives thought she'd come early because of a lot of things that happened in the month before, so I guess we'll see...

@Kelbear: I'm not sure we're fully seeing genitals there (and maybe it's even cord), and I don't want to get your hopes up needlessly either (especially since I just read a whole thing about how 'three lines can show up on boy scans too'), but it looks hamburgerish to me IF what I'm seeing is genitals. Like swollen hamburger. But then I clearly also don't know what I'm looking at supposedly!

[Kelbear]

Thanks hannah, that means a lot to me. And my existing GD is part of why anything with DH seems so much worse -- I'm trying so hard to keep myself afloat and going, and his stuff just compounds it so much.

It helps to have heard so much of you say you couldn't tell gender with scans -- this second tech had even said (since she never made us turn our head, but the first tech did -- maybe because the first tech was younger and less experienced and the older tech knew it was harder to tell?), "Unless you know how to read scans, you're fine looking, I can't even see gender," during one of the times my husband asked if we should be seeing the scan. But I was a bit of a Hermione and felt like I'd seen so many scans that I totally could tell it was a girl. But I'm realizing now that I'm not as much of a know-it-all as I thought ;P I've seen some surprising nub shots lately, and I always sort of passively though skull theory was nearly as good as nub, and I've been wrong on several lately -- which hopefully is good! I thought my early scans were boyish skulls, but during this second anatomy scan when we could actually see profile I thought skull was so smooth and round! Ugh, always obsessing.

And I go through periods of actually feeling this is a boy, and obsessing over our history and my sway and second guessing so many things and just already dreading the waiting process before we can try again -- and REALLY dreading going through all of this again, because I can't weather anymore losses.

I had a dream of son the other night -- but he had special needs. Interestingly, I had had a dream with DD of her being a girl with down syndrome before I knew gender as well, though this dream my son didn't have DS but some other clear developmental issue. In the dream the doctor was saying we needed to do a procedure to put him back in me since he came so early? So that was strange. But also hasn't left my mind since now (if anyone is keeping score), I have had two dreams of a girl -- but never seeing a girl, just being told it's a girl by my mom (who guessed girl the other week lol). Two dreams of having a boy and actually seeing a boy, including my mom saying, "It's a boy, we needed a boy," in one of them. And then one dream where I looked down at a brown/auburn haired baby and they had a diaper on lol, but I felt in the dream, "Well great, this must mean it's a girl." In both boy dreams, I was in hospital early because baby came early -- I'm sure that's my thoughts on loss that have affected it, though believe it or not, much of that is not on my mind as much anymore (GD has definitely surpassed loss in terms of anxiety, maybe because I am practically at viability now). And I might be back here in December/January bemoaning not going into labor, but I have been having an inkling baby would come early and these dreams are making me feel that more. DD did come right on time and all my doctors/midwives thought she'd come early because of a lot of things that happened in the month before, so I guess we'll see...

@Kelbear: I'm not sure we're fully seeing genitals there (and maybe it's even cord), and I don't want to get your hopes up needlessly either (especially since I just read a whole thing about how 'three lines can show up on boy scans too'), but it looks hamburgerish to me IF what I'm seeing is genitals. Like swollen hamburger. But then I clearly also don't know what I'm looking at supposedly!

Thanks TP, I know it's not a good potty shot and have been obsessing and looking at potty shots all day and also read about lines on boys potty shots. I am trying to resign myself to the fact that it's likely a boy, have cried so much today. Really held a hope this was my girl after not seeing any clear boy bits on the scan but obviously I'm not as good at telling ether!
I hope your dreams are just that and that Bub is born right on time and 100% healthy.

[Eighme]

Wasn't going to find out gender til next scan In 2 1/2 weeks but got this potty shot from 19w scan. Only shot they had. Thinking boy (looks like willy to me in the middle) ? Need your expert guesses as I'm going out of my mind crazy as I'm not sure.

40267Kelbear, this made me scratch my head so I pulled out my ultrasound from my pregnancy with my son. You can VERY clearly see has a boy at 18 weeks. Yours really has room for doubt, in my opinion. That very much does not look (like mine, Anyway) as boyish as I would expect to see but again I'm no expert either. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180904/db220eb83979e6888df599dd999380e0.jpg

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[Noemi2017]

Kelbear dont be sad:hugs:i was also crying first day of my scan but nothing is sure till the birth. I already count with other boy, my husband is telling to everybody we expect other boy but deep in me there is small hope... and i didnt stop to pray for my daughter:pray:

[Raining]

Kelbear,

That almost doesn’t look like a potty shot, but a shot from above looking down. Is that even possible? Just something about how the legs look. Also it doesn’t look as “boy” as my boys ultrasounds. With them there was really no room for questioning by 18 weeks!

[Girlswaylondon]

Kelbear that really has me scratching my head! It doesn’t look like my girls scan photo but it also doesn’t look like my sons! There was no mistaking my sons potty shot it was clear as day! But your scan photo I really can’t tell either way! X

[Girlswaylondon]

Also when I zoom in I can see 3 lines!?

[Girlswaylondon]

https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/ultrasound-gender-prediction/64508-sonographer-said-girl-16-week-potty-shot-what-do-you-think.html You can see my girls 3 lines here, quite swollen!

[Throwaway_panther]

To add on to how things are going, our dog just got diagnosed with metastatic cancer. I am a mess, and this might highlight how nuts I am: he is my boy, our FIRST son, and now he is leaving me too?! :(

[Pretty]

Oh my gosh that’s horrific! I’m so sorry!! My puppies are definitely my daughters too!!

[mummaofboys]

To add on to how things are going, our dog just got diagnosed with metastatic cancer. I am a mess, and this might highlight how nuts I am: he is my boy, our FIRST son, and now he is leaving me too?! :(

Oh TP I’m so sorry to hear this [emoji22] My dogs are my babies as well so I understand how upset you are. We lost a dog to cancer before we had kids and I still miss her. Sending you big hugs xx


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[Kelbear]

To add on to how things are going, our dog just got diagnosed with metastatic cancer. I am a mess, and this might highlight how nuts I am: he is my boy, our FIRST son, and now he is leaving me too?! :(

TP I am so sorry you are going through this as well as all the other stress you are coping with. Sending big hugs, hoping you can have some more quality time with your beloved dog before you have to say goodbye. Pets are like babies and they hold special places in our hearts and it is never easy to say goodbye. My though s are with you.

[Kelbear]

To add on to how things are going, our dog just got diagnosed with metastatic cancer. I am a mess, and this might highlight how nuts I am: he is my boy, our FIRST son, and now he is leaving me too?! :(

TP I am so sorry you are going through this as well as all the other stress you are coping with. Sending big hugs, hoping you can have some more quality time with your beloved dog before you have to say goodbye. Pets are like babies and they hold special places in our hearts and it is never easy to say goodbye. My though s are with you.

[hannahptrussell]

So I just got back from my anatomy scan. Things looked good. I guess. Baby was in a weird position and I have an anterior placenta so it made the photos awful. We both laughed that these are the worst yet. I mean, they’re awful. I made it through the whole ordeal without looking for gender. Of course she saw and kept it to herself. Which of course makes me think it’s a boy just because of how quickly she was able to tell. But I think we’ll still stick to team green. After this pregnancy no matter what baby they hand me, I’ll be in love. Anyone else having a rough pregnancy?


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[gafan]

To add on to how things are going, our dog just got diagnosed with metastatic cancer. I am a mess, and this might highlight how nuts I am: he is my boy, our FIRST son, and now he is leaving me too?! :(TP I am so sorry to hear about your dog's illness.

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[Eighme]

TP, I'm so sorry for your little boy! Dogs are just as much our children as the ones we birth. Sending you more prayers during this rough season.

Hannah, I'm having a super hard time with pregnancy. I used to be one of those women who didn't understand how you couldn't enjoy pregnancy; to an extent. I had a unicorn, pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, freaking amazing, easy pregnancy with my son. This one is kicking my butt and I'm only 13 weeks. Always tired. Something always hurts. Headaches weekly. Stomach upset. Nausea. The list goes on.

Hoping everyone else is doing well with theirs!

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[Raining]

Had the blood drawn for my NIPT today :fingers:
Should know in a week or so! Will update soon.

TP: I’m so sorry about your dog :( that’s heartbreaking. You deserve to catch a break soon!!

Eighme: When is your scan? SO excited to find out what you’re having. I hope you start to feel better soon too!

[Eighme]

Had the blood drawn for my NIPT today :fingers:
Should know in a week or so! Will update soon.

TP: I’m so sorry about your dog :( that’s heartbreaking. You deserve to catch a break soon!!

Eighme: When is your scan? SO excited to find out what you’re having. I hope you start to feel better soon too!Yay, raining! I can't wait! So, I go see my doctor this week but no scan. I don't know if they will book me for an ultrasound at my appointment (which would be another four weeks to five weeks[emoji24]). So I'm considering going to get a private ultrasound done in three weeks to see if we can determine the gender!

I can't wait!

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[Girlswaylondon]

So sorry about your dog TP, I lost my pet last year and I was beyond devastated like I’d lost a family member, I can really relate!

[Noemi2017]

Tp sorry about your dog:(:hugs:

[Noemi2017]

Hannah in my anatomy scan in the beginning of 12 weeks doctor was also very sure about gender so we think it is boy.

[hopper]

To add on to how things are going, our dog just got diagnosed with metastatic cancer. I am a mess, and this might highlight how nuts I am: he is my boy, our FIRST son, and now he is leaving me too?! :(Oh TP :( I'm so sad for you! We had to make the beyond heart breaking decision to euthanize him. He has cancer in his nasal cavity and it spread through his little body like wild fire. Our DS3 was 3 weeks old. I don't think it was any wonder I suffered quite badly with PND in the months after.
What I'm saying is that my heart feels for you. I truly hope you will be ok xx

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[hopper]

So I just got back from my anatomy scan. Things looked good. I guess. Baby was in a weird position and I have an anterior placenta so it made the photos awful. We both laughed that these are the worst yet. I mean, they’re awful. I made it through the whole ordeal without looking for gender. Of course she saw and kept it to herself. Which of course makes me think it’s a boy just because of how quickly she was able to tell. But I think we’ll still stick to team green. After this pregnancy no matter what baby they hand me, I’ll be in love. Anyone else having a rough pregnancy?


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I am so glad all was good at that scan. And well done for sticking Team Green!

I'm having a fairly hard run of it right now too so I hear ya! I'm tired, sick, my breast tenderness has not eased one bit and they've grown two sizes already. I enjoyed an easy pregnancy on DS3 so despite having had a hard time on DS1 and DS2 I had forgotten how life altering it can be to have a tough pregnancy. Hoping the second trimester brings some relief and energy!!

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[Throwaway_panther]

Thank you all so much! I am so grateful how understanding you all are. We got no sleep last night as we were so worried he wouldn't make it, and he hasn't been able to sleep as it's in his lungs and it's taking so much work for him to breathe. Our vet said we could take him for a second opinion to an oncologist, and we called every single one in the area -- the soonest we can get in is Thursday afternoon, which would be a whole other day and night (it's Wednesday morning here by me).

This is all just so incredibly sudden. We had just got him vaccinated against the canine flu since it's been bad around here, and we wondered when after he started coughing/having some trouble breathing if he caught it at the vet. Brought him in, they listened and suspected some sort of bronchial infection, gave him antibiotics, and he just got so bad over this weekend (not eating as much, can't sleep because every breath is a labor) that I brought him in before his followup appointment and the X-rays show how bad whatever cancer it was spread to his lungs...

I thought I was over grief. I thought we had so, so much more time with him (he's a medium sized dog, always healthy, guessing at just about 9). And it's just exacerbating my GD so bad in such odd ways!! Especially since our daughter has always called him "big brother" :(

Thank you all. I hope everyone's scans get less ambiguous, or at least less stressful! I will be harboring myself away...

[Eighme]

Thank you all so much! I am so grateful how understanding you all are. We got no sleep last night as we were so worried he wouldn't make it, and he hasn't been able to sleep as it's in his lungs and it's taking so much work for him to breathe. Our vet said we could take him for a second opinion to an oncologist, and we called every single one in the area -- the soonest we can get in is Thursday afternoon, which would be a whole other day and night (it's Wednesday morning here by me).

This is all just so incredibly sudden. We had just got him vaccinated against the canine flu since it's been bad around here, and we wondered when after he started coughing/having some trouble breathing if he caught it at the vet. Brought him in, they listened and suspected some sort of bronchial infection, gave him antibiotics, and he just got so bad over this weekend (not eating as much, can't sleep because every breath is a labor) that I brought him in before his followup appointment and the X-rays show how bad whatever cancer it was spread to his lungs...

I thought I was over grief. I thought we had so, so much more time with him (he's a medium sized dog, always healthy, guessing at just about 9). And it's just exacerbating my GD so bad in such odd ways!! Especially since our daughter has always called him "big brother" :(

Thank you all. I hope everyone's scans get less ambiguous, or at least less stressful! I will be harboring myself away...What his prognosis for this? I completely understand. We lost my husband's cat (she felt like mine more so because she favored me) to cancer and it was the most difficult thing to watch her suffer. It was heart breaking because he had her for 15 years, she was just a part of our family.

Wishing you comfort and peace during this time for you and your family.

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[Throwaway_panther]

What his prognosis for this? I completely understand. We lost my husband's cat (she felt like mine more so because she favored me) to cancer and it was the most difficult thing to watch her suffer. It was heart breaking because he had her for 15 years, she was just a part of our family.

Wishing you comfort and peace during this time for you and your family.

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His prognosis is "grim" as we were told. It had metastasized so much in his lungs that even chemo "might only give him a month or two at most." I frantically googled all night (and luckily have a family member who is a vet) and there could be a slim chance its an uncommon fungal infection, but the prognosis for that apparently isn't much better... any care at this point is hospice, and since the problem is his breathing they said there weren't any meds we could give him :(

Thank you all again for the comfort. I just can't get over how quickly this all spiraled. I was just planning all the walks we were going to do this fall to help get baby in good position. :(

[Girlswaylondon]

Noemi I still don’t think gender can be accurate at 12 weeks!

Big hugs tp xx

[Eighme]

Poor baby. I can't imagine the pain he must be feeling. That just breaks my heart form him. I hope you guys can find peace in the middle of everything. I just don't have the words.

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[Eighme]

Do you ladies have appetites? Food has been such a struggle for me. I'm pretty sure I'm not eating enough but after so many months on the LE diet snacking just isn't still my thing. My doctor recommended eating several small meals throughout the day but I'm lucky if I eat two. I'm trying to eat healthy, but if I eat too much I get nauseous and a stomach ache. I am struggling to find a good balance but I want to be sure me and the baby are getting enough nutrition.

[hannahptrussell]

Okay ladies. I am done with team green!!! We had a talk last night and from analyzing the way the sonographer responded, I am 99% sure it’s another boy for us. So we scheduled a private scan and are taking the whole gang to see the gender and have a better ultrasound experience. Really, they are the worst photos I’ve ever seen. So thankful for a healthy bean. I’d like to see those fists open up a bit. But there were no other major red flags. Ugh ladies. I just know if we don’t do this, I will drive myself batty. So it’s time to rip off the bandaid. I’m preparing myself to hear and see boy. All boy. But oh how I would love to be wrong.


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[Eighme]

I think that's a great decision, Hannah! I would most definitely have to know if I got a scan like that. It seriously was 50/50, which doesn't seem to be a common occurrence at the gestation. When is your private scan?

[Pretty]

I’ve got the opposite problem, my appetite (and waistline) are huge!! As long as you’re getting your prenatal down that’s a win according to my doctor (albeit, I’m pretty sure I couldn’t keep one down with DS and he turned out awesome). I think your body will take what it needs from you to provide to the baby, which may lead to your health declining but keep LO growing. Small meals are helpful, and for snacking I found that Cheerios, saltines and popcorn worked well. I worked my way up to pastiries as the weeks went on... so sorry you ladies are struggling! I have my mornings but much better relatively speaking.

[Eighme]

I’ve got the opposite problem, my appetite (and waistline) are huge!! As long as you’re getting your prenatal down that’s a win according to my doctor (albeit, I’m pretty sure I couldn’t keep one down with DS and he turned out awesome). I think your body will take what it needs from you to provide to the baby, which may lead to your health declining but keep LO growing. Small meals are helpful, and for snacking I found that Cheerios, saltines and popcorn worked well. I worked my way up to pastiries as the weeks went on... so sorry you ladies are struggling! I have my mornings but much better relatively speaking.

Pretty, when did you start not feeling so crappy? I'm 13 weeks right now and I swear this pregnancy is dragging due to everything I'm dealing with.

[Pretty]

I was sick from about 7-8 weeks until about 15-16, not nearly as bad as DS, as I was sick the entire pregnancy with him, but at this point I am confident I have been “sick” on the side of every road in town! Pregnancy is rough!

[Pretty]

Also, with DS it was constant vomiting, this time I only puked a few times (less than a dozen) but was extremely nauseous 24/7

[hannahptrussell]

Oh ladies. This pregnancy is hard. Im 39 and struggling. My body aches, seriously awful heartburn and no food sounds good. And to top it off, I had sugar in my urine so I’ve been checking my numbers. Looks like I have an insulin pregnancy ahead of me. Boo. And now an anterior placenta. I SO want a natural and I medicated birth with this one. I feel like the odds of that not happening are quickly adding up.


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[hannahptrussell]

I think that's a great decision, Hannah! I would most definitely have to know if I got a scan like that. It seriously was 50/50, which doesn't seem to be a common occurrence at the gestation. When is your private scan?

Tomorrow at 330. So I don’t need to wait long. I’m excited. I think having everyone there will help with the excitement! Yeah. I feel like it’s usually 100% with most scans. Hoping this one is perfectly clear for us.


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[Pretty]

Oh gosh I’m sorry Hannah! I can’t even imagine going natural, hell id take an epidural now (especially if it meant sleep!!! I miss sleep...) I hope you start feeling better! I keep hearing about this magical second semester energy boost lol I’ve gor my fingers crossed!

[Pretty]

Lol second trimester! Thank goodness my college years are over!

[Eighme]

Pretty, I'm hoping that's my luck. I just want to feel slightly normal, I'll even take OK at this point. Pretty sure my husband is tired of my headaches and complaining.

Hannah, props to you for wanting to try natural! I could never. I had back contractions and that was enough before I noped all the way to an epidural. I hope you get to feeling better soon and I can't wait to hear what you're having!

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[Pretty]

Has your doctor put you on any nausea meds? I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t have made it without them... I still use it every once in a while, but definitely glad I have it on hand (I believe it’s the phenergen gel, I have the pill form too but always feel to guilty taking it)

[Pretty]

Hannah, so excited for you!!!

[Eighme]

They gave me Bonjesta (?) But it makes me feel like a zombie and super tired. It's not even really the nausea (sometimes it is) as just a general over all feeling off "I don't feel good." It feels like when you're slightly under the weather and just have no energy, random aches, and little appetite. I would consider being sick if it wasn't for weeks of feeling this way now [emoji53]

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[Pretty]

I’m sorry, that’s awful!! I hope you get some relief soon!!

[Eighme]

It's totally fine. Thank you! I think this pregnancy isj ust the polar opposite of my son's so I'm just not used to feeling "ick". It'll pass (hopefully! [emoji1696])

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[Pretty]

This one is for me too, fx it’s a good sign!!

[simkan]

His prognosis is "grim" as we were told. It had metastasized so much in his lungs that even chemo "might only give him a month or two at most." I frantically googled all night (and luckily have a family member who is a vet) and there could be a slim chance its an uncommon fungal infection, but the prognosis for that apparently isn't much better... any care at this point is hospice, and since the problem is his breathing they said there weren't any meds we could give him :(

Thank you all again for the comfort. I just can't get over how quickly this all spiraled. I was just planning all the walks we were going to do this fall to help get baby in good position. :(I'm so sorry TP! There is nothing I can even say. I lost my childhood dog with when I was 8 weeks pregnant with ds1. Also cancer, though she'd had it a while, started with her leg, which we removed. Had a wonderful 3 legged dog for 2 years, but it returned in one side of her jaw which we removed too but then it appeared behind her eye and we decided to just make her as comfortable as possible until we had to say goodbye. We buried her in our garden and planted a beautiful ltree above her and I tell my kids that's Zu's tree. So they still know her.
Give him lots of cuddles while you can! X


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[simkan]

Oh ladies. This pregnancy is hard. Im 39 and struggling. My body aches, seriously awful heartburn and no food sounds good. And to top it off, I had sugar in my urine so I’ve been checking my numbers. Looks like I have an insulin pregnancy ahead of me. Boo. And now an anterior placenta. I SO want a natural and I medicated birth with this one. I feel like the odds of that not happening are quickly adding up.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSo sorry you're struggling! I feel ya with the aches. This one has definitely been my most painful pregnancy so far. I'm not sure if each time the symptoms come earlier and harder. Ds1 I literally didn't feel pregnant till like 38 weeks. DS2 a bit earlier but still the last trimester. This one since 10 weeks. Dont think I'd be able to do it again so looks like DH will be getting his way at stopping now.

So both other pregnancies my only birthplan was epidural. Ds1 I was induced. Got it after 6 hours which was enough for me. I didn't think I'd have survived the whole labor. And once I got that epidural I was on cloud 9 and like yep! Definitely doing that again.
Ds2 had other plans. My water broke at 36 weeks. And when labour happened it happened fast! No epidural. When they told me it wasn't gonna happen I think the daylight was scared out of me. But I was only in active labor for 15 minutes and dont even remember pushing he literally expelled himself. And in hindsight I didn't need to have it. I dont know how I'd feel if the labor went on longer but I realized it's not as bad as I thought. Still think I'll ask for it again this time though... just in case it's a long one.

Oh and also had sugar with DS2 but I knew I'd eaten really badly the weekend before the test. It had been nine and my mom's birthday so lots of cake and sweets. I went for a second test and made sure to eat really healthy for a few days before and it came back clear. Those tests are very sensitive.dont worry too much about that affecting your delivery yet.

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[Throwaway_panther]

We put him down today. DH and I were with him in the sunshine when he was peacefully put to sleep. Thank you all for your supportive words. I am just so, so wrecked. There really is an endless capacity for grief!

[Kelbear]

Okay ladies. I am done with team green!!! We had a talk last night and from analyzing the way the sonographer responded, I am 99% sure it’s another boy for us. So we scheduled a private scan and are taking the whole gang to see the gender and have a better ultrasound experience. Really, they are the worst photos I’ve ever seen. So thankful for a healthy bean. I’d like to see those fists open up a bit. But there were no other major red flags. Ugh ladies. I just know if we don’t do this, I will drive myself batty. So it’s time to rip off the bandaid. I’m preparing myself to hear and see boy. All boy. But oh how I would love to be wrong.


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I completely understand how you are feeling. This was me after our 20w scan when we didn't find out and since my dr hasn't been able to tell me I haven't slept, I keep trawling through 100s of potty shots to compare and am literally driving myself insane. I know I can't deal with this level of anxiety til the end of the pregnancy. It is hard enough waiting another 2 1/2 weeks til our growth scan. I am trying to prepare myself to hear boy again but know it will be absolutely devastating when I do. I hope you do hear pink at your scan, good luck.

[Kelbear]

We put him down today. DH and I were with him in the sunshine when he was peacefully put to sleep. Thank you all for your supportive words. I am just so, so wrecked. There really is an endless capacity for grief!

TP I am so sorry this has happened to you and especially so quickly. No words will help heal the grief, maybe time will eventually help. Try to look after yourself at this time and grieve as much as you need to. My thoughts are with you.

[gafan]

sorry, hannah. this pregnancy sounds so rough.

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[gafan]

TP. I am sorry for your loss. Grieving for a pet is so sorrowful and bittersweet.

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[ABC.2606]

Oh man I'm so, so sorry TP :( Huge hugs to you.

Kelbear - Hadn't responded to your ultrasound pic but from all the responses you had it does sound like it really is just unclear! And as you said, if your doctor couldn't tell from the pic then it really must not be a clear penis shot. Hoping it's cord and that it's blocking a vagina!!!

Eighme & Hopper - sorry you're feeling rough :( I'm 18 weeks now and felt like I was never going to feel better... and while I'm still really tired a lot, I do feel better now than I did. So there's hope :)

Hannah - Oh WOW so exciting that you're going to find out gender!!! Can't wait to hear!!!!

Raining can't wait to hear about your NIPT results!!!

[ABC.2606]

Hello ladies,

Hope you and your belly bubs are doing well.
Just wondering if any of you have heard from Kittendreams? :( She’s not responded to my last PM so am worrying and hope one of you might have heard???

Thanks!!!!

She hasn't been on this board at all since she found out... been really worried about her as well :( Please let us know if you hear from her.

How is your baby girl doing??

[mummaofboys]

TP I’m so sorry [emoji22] Sending you massive hugs and love xxx


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[simkan]

So sorry TP! Sending hugs.

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[Noemi2017]

Tp im sorry:SS::hugs:

[Eighme]

TP, so sorry about your sweet baby. May he rest in peace.

[Eighme]

Well, I had my doctor's appointment today. Baby's heartbeat was 159. Apparently, I got my dates mixed up and I'm due 3/2/2018, making me 14 weeks pregnant! So that's exciting. We scheduled our anatomy scan for the 3rd, which is four weeks away. Still torn if I want to have a private ultrasound prior because I can do it in two weeks vs. four. They also prescribed me medication for my migraines, so I'm hoping that helps make this pregnancy more bearable.

Hannah, when do you have your ultrasound? I'm so anxious!

[Noemi2017]

Girls pls do u have link where i can fill my girl sway attempt?

[Eighme]

Girls pls do u have link where i can fill my girl sway attempt?

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdGv-4LcFKGdLA--KIsbw9IKy-KYKnnf9G_yr2rJiWHvrzlhw/viewform

Here you go, Noemi. Hopefully that works

[sunstars]

Noemi, this is for still unknown results
https://genderdreaming.com/forum/misc.php?do=form&fid=8 for ttc girl

[Pretty]

Fx Hannah!!!

[hannahptrussell]

Thanks ladies. We go in one hour and I’m so nervous. The funny thing is I think I’m prepared to hear either way. I’m just glad we decided to find out. For me, the preparation for baby makes the pregnancy go so much faster. We have an empty room so I’m thinking it will become baby room. That definitely will give me a distraction. I’ll let you ladies know soon!


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[Girlswaylondon]

Thinking of you hannah!!

[hannahptrussell]

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Well, my intuition was right. Last week, I stopped looking at girl things and my eye was constantly going to boy things. I thought there was something to it. He tried real hard to hide from us with that foot tucked between his legs but he finally moved enough for us to see him. There’s a bit of sadness for my daughter. To be a girl in a home full of boys is pretty intense. But we already love this little guy so much. He was prayed for through grief and tears and frustration after losing baby after baby. Our prayers were answered. There’s no way I can be upset.


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[Pretty]

I’m sorry you didn’t hear pink but it sounds like you’re doing great with the news and that little boy was just totally meant to be!!!

[simkan]

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Well, my intuition was right. Last week, I stopped looking at girl things and my eye was constantly going to boy things. I thought there was something to it. He tried real hard to hide from us with that foot tucked between his legs but he finally moved enough for us to see him. There’s a bit of sadness for my daughter. To be a girl in a home full of boys is pretty intense. But we already love this little guy so much. He was prayed for through grief and tears and frustration after losing baby after baby. Our prayers were answered. There’s no way I can be upset.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCongratulations Hannah! Sorry that you didn't hear girl, but I'm really happy that he's good and healthy and definitely so loved already! He's going to be amazing. You're going to have to show us what you do with the room! That's so exciting.

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[Eighme]

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Well, my intuition was right. Last week, I stopped looking at girl things and my eye was constantly going to boy things. I thought there was something to it. He tried real hard to hide from us with that foot tucked between his legs but he finally moved enough for us to see him. There’s a bit of sadness for my daughter. To be a girl in a home full of boys is pretty intense. But we already love this little guy so much. He was prayed for through grief and tears and frustration after losing baby after baby. Our prayers were answered. There’s no way I can be upset.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCongrats, Hannah! He was just meant for be for sure! I love his little foot! Glad baby is healthy!

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[ABC.2606]

Congrats Hannah!!!! Hey if my Panorama test was right, I’m going to have only one girl in a house full of boys too!!!

Do you have any thoughts on names yet? I feel like having a name really helps in the bonding process - at least for me it does!


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[mummaofboys]

Congrats Hannah!! How exciting! At least your daughter will have lots of brothers to protect her and look out for her [emoji846]


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[hannahptrussell]

Congrats Hannah!!!! Hey if my Panorama test was right, I’m going to have only one girl in a house full of boys too!!!

Do you have any thoughts on names yet? I feel like having a name really helps in the bonding process - at least for me it does!


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I completely agree! My friend just had a boy after 1 boy and 3 girls. The exact opposite of us. She said in a way she feels their boys will be SO far apart that it kinda leaves her youngest in a house full of girls! I didn’t think of it that way! We have chosen Parker. It’s my maiden name. [emoji170]


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[Kelbear]

I'm sorry you didn't hear pink hannah but glad you seem at peace with it and are already in love with your little guy. Gorgeous foot. Am sure he will bring you so much jpy.

[ABC.2606]

Lovely name, Hannah!!!!

Anyone get Braxton Hicks early in pregnancy? I’m 18 weeks and feel like the past few days my stomach has felt really hard/tight sometimes. But I can’t tell if it’s really BH or my stomach just feeling really tight/stretched because it’s growing SO fast. I’ve heard they start earlier with each pregnancy though? Anyways I called the doc today and they want me to come in tomorrow to get checked out. So now I’m nervous [emoji45]


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[gafan]

Congratulations Hannah!

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[gafan]

ABC I don't know about Braxton Hicks but it makes sense to me that your stomach might feel more stretched out. I hope you get some answers and peace of mind tomorrow.

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[ABC.2606]

ABC I don't know about Braxton Hicks but it makes sense to me that your stomach might feel more stretched out. I hope you get some answers and peace of mind tomorrow.

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Thanks Gafan - hoping it’s just that!


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[hannahptrussell]

ABC, with each pregnancy I have felt them sooner and sooner. If they got annoying, I would take Tylenol & Benedryl and try to rest. It was usually because I was overdoing it.


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[Girlswaylondon]

Congrats Hannah!

Abc I’ve had BH so badly from 16 weeks this pregnancy and get at least 10 a day!!

[Throwaway_panther]

I'm sorry you didn't hear pink hannah, but happy you are feeling so positive ♡

ABC, I am a BH queen. I had and have them often, and early, and mine are pretty painful! I get them after the big O as SOON as I'm pregnant and it doesn't let up until after labor (it was my first sign I was pregnant with my first loss, the "how did this happen?" baby 3.5 months postpartum!). With DD, I had even ended up going into L&D around 24ish weeks because I had them so painfully and regularly (they figured I was just dehydrated).

[sunstars]

Hi ladies, I've been quietly following this DD group with a hope to join it.
Tp, I'm so sorry for your loss.

Well, I had my 12 week scan today, everything is fine (I had mc in May at 9 weeks), besides that its gonna be my DS3. I've lost twin girls two years ago due to complicated pregnancy and premature labor, so it was another reason for us wanting a girl so badly. I'll be 40 when Baby arrives, so I'm not sure about number 4.
Hugs to each one of you, you all are so dear to me :)

[SurroundedByBoys]

I have some catching up to do... Congrats to you hannah! Im sorry TP, its so hard to let an animal go. Our pit mix is getting up there in age and is showing a lot of stiffness lately. Hes my DS1s best friend.

Ive suddenly developed a bump overnight. Along with tons of back pain. I think this baby is confused... First trimester I felt pretty good, ate like an ox not sick etc. Lately, I can barely eat, lots of food aversions, heartburn, throwing up, headaches, tired all the time. I have a doc appt today and the anatomy scan monday.

GD has been so bad yet again, and I Had hoped that since it wasnt present when I found out, that I was skipping over it. I think whats killing me the most, is that I was going to sway with my third and thats why I joined in 2013. Then DS1 and 2 were both diagnosed with autism and I made the hard choice to swallow the loss of a possible daughter and just focus on them and not spread myself thinner. Then here came Oops and I dared hope that it might be my DD and its cruel fate that I am indeed getting my third child, but another boy and no chance to sway those odds. Im starting all over again at this point when I didnt really want to, for yet another boy. Then of course the guilt of feeling this way doesnt help.

[hopper]

TP my heart breaks for you. I am sending tonnes of love and light your way and I hope you find the strength to cope with this loss of your little man. It's hard, just know we are here xxx

Hannah I'm so sorry you didn't hear girl BUT wow you are so inspiring! You seem to be in the perfect headspace and I absolutely ADORE the name Parker [emoji170]

Eighme I am the exact same at the moment. It's less the nausea, more so a feeling of just being "off". I'm really weak and fuzzy headed most days. The nausea is mostly at bay with the meds thankfully but I have super low BP when I'm pregnant too so that's definitely not helping!!

To everyone who has scans coming up - I'm SO excited for you! And a little envious lol. Mine isn't until October :/ But nice to look forward to!!

We have settled on a girls name - I won't jinx things by writing it down but this is the first time we've even spoken of girls names. Since DS1 when we were Team Green!!
We are at loggerheads over a boy name but I suppose that's normal when it's your 4th lol!

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[Noemi2017]

Thx u:flowerz:

[Noemi2017]

Congrats hannah for healthy baby boy:LotsofLove:

[Noemi2017]

Sunstars happy everything was fine:heart:

[Kelbear]

Sorry to hear some of you are having a rough time this pregnancy. This is by far my hardest pregnancy - I don't think I could do this again for a fourth even if hubby was willing (and he's definitely not as he's not even on board with this one!). I am nearly 23 weeks, still have bad nausea daily (although not all day and not daily vomiting which was from 4 weeks til 19weeks) still have some food aversions (never had this before) and back pain is excruciating (so bad I ended up in women's assessment for a check up ultrasound Wed to make sure all was ok as back and pelvic pain almost as bad as labour). I am constantly tired and emotional. I hope this improves at least for a few weeks before the third trimester hits as it is always down hill from there for me. Really hope everyone feels better soon. Wouldn't mind suffering this terrible nausea, pain and food aversions if it was for a DD but feel so sad that for me it likely just confirms this is another DS. I have asked them to move my growth scan (to check if placenta working) forward a week so only have to wait til this Friday not the following one. Haven't been sleeping in nearly a week since got ambiguous potty shot as so stressed about gender. Have decided definitely going to find out at scan as can't do the hope/disappointment roundabout anymore. To make the GD worse a friend at work who is due same day as me found out she is having a DD for her second and that makes a pigeon pair for her. Just seems so unfair that everyone around me is getting their DD or pigeon pair. With the exception of two people that I work with everyone else has a pigeon pair and it's the same in my mums group. I am the only one who doesn't have a pigeon pair. Just know I am going to fall apart at scan when I hear boy.

[ABC.2606]

Hi ladies, I've been quietly following this DD group with a hope to join it.
Tp, I'm so sorry for your loss.

Well, I had my 12 week scan today, everything is fine (I had mc in May at 9 weeks), besides that its gonna be my DS3. I've lost twin girls two years ago due to complicated pregnancy and premature labor, so it was another reason for us wanting a girl so badly. I'll be 40 when Baby arrives, so I'm not sure about number 4.
Hugs to each one of you, you all are so dear to me :)

Sunstars it’s SO nice to see you back here!!!!!!! I have thought about you since you had your miscarriage and I’m so glad to see you are carrying your little rainbow baby now!! I’m sorry you didn’t girl but I’m sure this little guy will be a perfect addition to your family!!! When is your due date?


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[ABC.2606]

I have some catching up to do... Congrats to you hannah! Im sorry TP, its so hard to let an animal go. Our pit mix is getting up there in age and is showing a lot of stiffness lately. Hes my DS1s best friend.

Ive suddenly developed a bump overnight. Along with tons of back pain. I think this baby is confused... First trimester I felt pretty good, ate like an ox not sick etc. Lately, I can barely eat, lots of food aversions, heartburn, throwing up, headaches, tired all the time. I have a doc appt today and the anatomy scan monday.

GD has been so bad yet again, and I Had hoped that since it wasnt present when I found out, that I was skipping over it. I think whats killing me the most, is that I was going to sway with my third and thats why I joined in 2013. Then DS1 and 2 were both diagnosed with autism and I made the hard choice to swallow the loss of a possible daughter and just focus on them and not spread myself thinner. Then here came Oops and I dared hope that it might be my DD and its cruel fate that I am indeed getting my third child, but another boy and no chance to sway those odds. Im starting all over again at this point when I didnt really want to, for yet another boy. Then of course the guilt of feeling this way doesnt help.

Ugh- I’m sorry the pregnancy has gotten harder and that GD has hit hard. Don’t feel guilty about it - GD is real and it sucks and it hits us all hard. It’s clear from your commitment to your boys that you’re an awesome mom and you’ll be an awesome mom to this little guy as well. It just takes time - and that’s ok!!! Take the best care of yourself that you can right now & as always come here and vent whenever you need to!!


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[ABC.2606]

TP my heart breaks for you. I am sending tonnes of love and light your way and I hope you find the strength to cope with this loss of your little man. It's hard, just know we are here xxx

Hannah I'm so sorry you didn't hear girl BUT wow you are so inspiring! You seem to be in the perfect headspace and I absolutely ADORE the name Parker [emoji170]

Eighme I am the exact same at the moment. It's less the nausea, more so a feeling of just being "off". I'm really weak and fuzzy headed most days. The nausea is mostly at bay with the meds thankfully but I have super low BP when I'm pregnant too so that's definitely not helping!!

To everyone who has scans coming up - I'm SO excited for you! And a little envious lol. Mine isn't until October :/ But nice to look forward to!!

We have settled on a girls name - I won't jinx things by writing it down but this is the first time we've even spoken of girls names. Since DS1 when we were Team Green!!
We are at loggerheads over a boy name but I suppose that's normal when it's your 4th lol!

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I think boys names are harder in general!! DH and I have a very hard time agreeing on boy names!


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[ABC.2606]

Sorry to hear some of you are having a rough time this pregnancy. This is by far my hardest pregnancy - I don't think I could do this again for a fourth even if hubby was willing (and he's definitely not as he's not even on board with this one!). I am nearly 23 weeks, still have bad nausea daily (although not all day and not daily vomiting which was from 4 weeks til 19weeks) still have some food aversions (never had this before) and back pain is excruciating (so bad I ended up in women's assessment for a check up ultrasound Wed to make sure all was ok as back and pelvic pain almost as bad as labour). I am constantly tired and emotional. I hope this improves at least for a few weeks before the third trimester hits as it is always down hill from there for me. Really hope everyone feels better soon. Wouldn't mind suffering this terrible nausea, pain and food aversions if it was for a DD but feel so sad that for me it likely just confirms this is another DS. I have asked them to move my growth scan (to check if placenta working) forward a week so only have to wait til this Friday not the following one. Haven't been sleeping in nearly a week since got ambiguous potty shot as so stressed about gender. Have decided definitely going to find out at scan as can't do the hope/disappointment roundabout anymore. To make the GD worse a friend at work who is due same day as me found out she is having a DD for her second and that makes a pigeon pair for her. Just seems so unfair that everyone around me is getting their DD or pigeon pair. With the exception of two people that I work with everyone else has a pigeon pair and it's the same in my mums group. I am the only one who doesn't have a pigeon pair. Just know I am going to fall apart at scan when I hear boy.

I’m still keeping everything crossed that you hear girl!! It really wasn’t a clear shot! Sorry you’re feeling so rough - can you imagine if men had to go through pregnancy?? The population would be so low or would have died off by now! Women are warriors to go through this torture!!!


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[Kelbear]

Thanks for the reassurance about BH ladies. I went into today and everything seems fine - babies are good, cervix is good. Doc wasn’t convinced that I’m having BH - she thinks it’s more that my uterus and stomach are just growing SO much faster this time and me & body aren’t used to it, and it’s causing all these sensations I’m not used to. My uterus is already like an inch or two ABOVE my belly button at 18.5 weeks which is crazy to me! Unfortunately I’ve already gained 25-ish lbs :(. Doc said not to worry about it - it is what it is and babies need to grow!

And both bubs had their legs open today so we got clear genital shots - both boy AND girl are confirmed now :). I can relax about that part at least!!


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So glad all is ok and especially that you got to see confirmation of your little girl! Hope the pains get less. Don't worry about weight gain - you are growing not one but two little people so you need extra to support them.

[Kelbear]

Thanks for the reassurance about BH ladies. I went into today and everything seems fine - babies are good, cervix is good. Doc wasn’t convinced that I’m having BH - she thinks it’s more that my uterus and stomach are just growing SO much faster this time and me & body aren’t used to it, and it’s causing all these sensations I’m not used to. My uterus is already like an inch or two ABOVE my belly button at 18.5 weeks which is crazy to me! Unfortunately I’ve already gained 25-ish lbs :(. Doc said not to worry about it - it is what it is and babies need to grow!

And both bubs had their legs open today so we got clear genital shots - both boy AND girl are confirmed now :). I can relax about that part at least!!


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So glad all is ok and you got to see confirmation of your little girl!

[LMSM]

She hasn't been on this board at all since she found out... been really worried about her as well :( Please let us know if you hear from her.

How is your baby girl doing??

Thanks ABC, I’ve got one last way of tracking her down so to speak so will give that a go and let you ladies know fx!
Oh and re BH , I have a very irritable uterus so basically have painful contractions from conception to labour ....it’s tough (the plus side is that I labour very efficiently and fast) but if your cervix stays put, it’s just an annoyance. Two babies are bound to put pressure on your uterus and cervix so much more than usual for you so it’s pretty normal I dare say. If they increase in intensity and don’t subside with rest, better get checked though ;) so exciting for you to have these two rainbow babies to grow and look forward to welcoming :D
My Sofia is great, thanks...a sweet sweet darling, that doesn’t sleep lol she is 5.5 m.o and can’t believe a year ago I was crying that she wasn’t a boy. COuldnt imagine not having her sweet face in our home :love:

TP, so sorry for the loss of your puppy, they truly form part of the family too :hugs:

Sorry to see some of you didn’t hear what you’d hoped re gender, it gets better I promise and you will be head over heels with those little munchkins :) I know it seem so impossible right now but you will...the “sway opposite” babes are definitely so very special :love:

[ABC.2606]

Thanks for the reassurance about BH ladies. I went into today and everything seems fine - babies are good, cervix is good. Doc wasn’t convinced that I’m having BH - she thinks it’s more that my uterus and stomach are just growing SO much faster this time and me & body aren’t used to it, and it’s causing all these sensations I’m not used to. My uterus is already like an inch or two ABOVE my belly button at 18.5 weeks which is crazy to me! Unfortunately I’ve already gained 25-ish lbs . Doc said not to worry about it - it is what it is and babies need to grow!

And both bubs had their legs open today so we got clear genital shots - both boy AND girl are confirmed now . I can relax about that part at least!!

[sunstars]

Thanks so much, abc! And I'm so happy that you are getting b/g twins and everything is fine!
I got pregnant after first AF after miscarriage. My due date is March 23 according to my LMP, although ultrasound shows a few days earlier than that, but here they don't make corrections for an official due date based on ultrasound.

[hopper]

I think boys names are harder in general!! DH and I have a very hard time agreeing on boy names!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLol I'm sure he'll come around if it is indeed another son. I've named the first 3 so why not the 4th ;) Have you guys agreed on names for both your girl and boy? So awesome getting to pick one of each!!

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[hopper]

Thanks ABC, I’ve got one last way of tracking her down so to speak so will give that a go and let you ladies know fx!
Oh and re BH , I have a very irritable uterus so basically have painful contractions from conception to labour ....it’s tough (the plus side is that I labour very efficiently and fast) but if your cervix stays put, it’s just an annoyance. Two babies are bound to put pressure on your uterus and cervix so much more than usual for you so it’s pretty normal I dare say. If they increase in intensity and don’t subside with rest, better get checked though ;) so exciting for you to have these two rainbow babies to grow and look forward to welcoming :D
My Sofia is great, thanks...a sweet sweet darling, that doesn’t sleep lol she is 5.5 m.o and can’t believe a year ago I was crying that she wasn’t a boy. COuldnt imagine not having her sweet face in our home :love:

TP, so sorry for the loss of your puppy, they truly form part of the family too :hugs:

Sorry to see some of you didn’t hear what you’d hoped re gender, it gets better I promise and you will be head over heels with those little munchkins :) I know it seem so impossible right now but you will...the “sway opposite” babes are definitely so very special :love:Oh I couldn't agree more concerning sway opposite babies!! Our DS3 is an opposite (after a long hard sway) and I remember taking the news SO horribly!! But once they are here they hold your heart! He is the sweetest little guy. He's 2 now and has us all wrapped around his little fingers - so he's in for a bit of a shock with this baby coming!!
I think this level of contentment and knowing the peace that comes with a sway opposite has driven us to go team green this time as while I would enjoy a DD I know I will love another DS just as much!

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[hopper]

Sorry to hear some of you are having a rough time this pregnancy. This is by far my hardest pregnancy - I don't think I could do this again for a fourth even if hubby was willing (and he's definitely not as he's not even on board with this one!). I am nearly 23 weeks, still have bad nausea daily (although not all day and not daily vomiting which was from 4 weeks til 19weeks) still have some food aversions (never had this before) and back pain is excruciating (so bad I ended up in women's assessment for a check up ultrasound Wed to make sure all was ok as back and pelvic pain almost as bad as labour). I am constantly tired and emotional. I hope this improves at least for a few weeks before the third trimester hits as it is always down hill from there for me. Really hope everyone feels better soon. Wouldn't mind suffering this terrible nausea, pain and food aversions if it was for a DD but feel so sad that for me it likely just confirms this is another DS. I have asked them to move my growth scan (to check if placenta working) forward a week so only have to wait til this Friday not the following one. Haven't been sleeping in nearly a week since got ambiguous potty shot as so stressed about gender. Have decided definitely going to find out at scan as can't do the hope/disappointment roundabout anymore. To make the GD worse a friend at work who is due same day as me found out she is having a DD for her second and that makes a pigeon pair for her. Just seems so unfair that everyone around me is getting their DD or pigeon pair. With the exception of two people that I work with everyone else has a pigeon pair and it's the same in my mums group. I am the only one who doesn't have a pigeon pair. Just know I am going to fall apart at scan when I hear boy.That's great they have moved your scan date forward! The less time you have to spend being anxious the better!! I remember that feeling before our gender scan last time. We had the biggest suspicion we were gonna hear boy as the scan pics from 13 weeks had stacking. I got the gender scan at 16 weeks which was the earliest they would take me but oh man, those 3 weeks were horrible!! I know that anxiety so so well. Sending much love and hoping this week goes quickly x

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[SurroundedByBoys]

Sorry to hear some of you are having a rough time this pregnancy. This is by far my hardest pregnancy - I don't think I could do this again for a fourth even if hubby was willing (and he's definitely not as he's not even on board with this one!). I am nearly 23 weeks, still have bad nausea daily (although not all day and not daily vomiting which was from 4 weeks til 19weeks) still have some food aversions (never had this before) and back pain is excruciating (so bad I ended up in women's assessment for a check up ultrasound Wed to make sure all was ok as back and pelvic pain almost as bad as labour). I am constantly tired and emotional. I hope this improves at least for a few weeks before the third trimester hits as it is always down hill from there for me. Really hope everyone feels better soon. Wouldn't mind suffering this terrible nausea, pain and food aversions if it was for a DD but feel so sad that for me it likely just confirms this is another DS. I have asked them to move my growth scan (to check if placenta working) forward a week so only have to wait til this Friday not the following one. Haven't been sleeping in nearly a week since got ambiguous potty shot as so stressed about gender. Have decided definitely going to find out at scan as can't do the hope/disappointment roundabout anymore. To make the GD worse a friend at work who is due same day as me found out she is having a DD for her second and that makes a pigeon pair for her. Just seems so unfair that everyone around me is getting their DD or pigeon pair. With the exception of two people that I work with everyone else has a pigeon pair and it's the same in my mums group. I am the only one who doesn't have a pigeon pair. Just know I am going to fall apart at scan when I hear boy.

Same... It seems like the moment I outed my pregnancy, everybody else did as well. Planned or Oops etc. And no joke, they are all ladies with multiple sons getting their DD or DDs getting their DSs. One single exception is one who is getting her 3rd daughter which is exactly what she wanted so....

[SurroundedByBoys]

I have SUCH a hard last name, its making it impossible. DS1 is Jacob Robert which we had picked out before we even planned kids as its both our grandfathers names. DS2 took literally until the last few weeks to agree on his first name. He is Logan Joseph. Joseph is my FILs middle name, because he doesnt like his first (and my father disappeared when I was young). This one, drawing a blank. I was thinking a C name for my other grandfather because he is Clarence Eugene. However, DH doesnt like any C names I do like Colin, Cole, Caleb, or Colton. Names ending with 'er' dont go because the last name does... so my 'Trevor' is out. So was Noah, Damien, Elijah, Dylan... because DH hates them too. :rolleyes: I also love the name Blake, which he hates but Im sticking to it possibly as a middle name. I think the only one we both were okay with so far was Nathaniel... so Nathaniel Blake maybe. I feel bad giving him such a long name haha

[Kelbear]

I have SUCH a hard last name, its making it impossible. DS1 is Jacob Robert which we had picked out before we even planned kids as its both our grandfathers names. DS2 took literally until the last few weeks to agree on his first name. He is Logan Joseph. Joseph is my FILs middle name, because he doesnt like his first (and my father disappeared when I was young). This one, drawing a blank. I was thinking a C name for my other grandfather because he is Clarence Eugene. However, DH doesnt like any C names I do like Colin, Cole, Caleb, or Colton. Names ending with 'er' dont go because the last name does... so my 'Trevor' is out. So was Noah, Damien, Elijah, Dylan... because DH hates them too. :rolleyes: I also love the name Blake, which he hates but Im sticking to it possibly as a middle name. I think the only one we both were okay with so far was Nathaniel... so Nathaniel Blake maybe. I feel bad giving him such a long name haha

DS2 had no name for nearly 3 days as DH and I couldn't agree on one. In the end I gave in just so he had a name. If this is another boy (likely) we are really going to struggle with a name. The few I really like either don't go with our surname or DH doesn't like. I hope you find a name you really like. Nathaniel was one of the names I liked for DS2 but hubby vetoed it. Nathaniel Blake is a nice combination.

[Throwaway_panther]

Surrounded, Nathaniel Blake doesn't strike me as particularly long, and he can always be Nate for short! We're big into longer, unique names with a nickname ready at birth ourselves ;)

I woke up from bad dream just now where a nurse said, "Oh, well you have girls, so that's ok," after I filled out a form wrong, and I got angry and asked if she just spoiled us since we didn't know and she said yes and it was a whole thing. I again feel like my consciousness is telling me. The worst part was not having my sweet boy to comfort me when I woke up :( I feel bad that I just don't have any care or anticipation for this baby anymore without our dog being here. I just want him back so bad.

[Girlswaylondon]

TP it will take time but you will feel better soon, it took me by surprise how much I grieved for the loss of my pet, and I mean bursting into tears during the day!

The time eventually came when I was able to think about him and smile instead of cry, although it seems like that will never come I promise it will!

[simkan]

I have SUCH a hard last name, its making it impossible. DS1 is Jacob Robert which we had picked out before we even planned kids as its both our grandfathers names. DS2 took literally until the last few weeks to agree on his first name. He is Logan Joseph. Joseph is my FILs middle name, because he doesnt like his first (and my father disappeared when I was young). This one, drawing a blank. I was thinking a C name for my other grandfather because he is Clarence Eugene. However, DH doesnt like any C names I do like Colin, Cole, Caleb, or Colton. Names ending with 'er' dont go because the last name does... so my 'Trevor' is out. So was Noah, Damien, Elijah, Dylan... because DH hates them too. :rolleyes: I also love the name Blake, which he hates but Im sticking to it possibly as a middle name. I think the only one we both were okay with so far was Nathaniel... so Nathaniel Blake maybe. I feel bad giving him such a long name hahaAh my DS2's name is Nathaniel. Dh wanted Zachary which I liked until I was pregnant and then hated it. I was obsessed with Nathaniel. So his middle name is Zack. Thought Nathaniel Zachary would be too long lol. Our Ds1 name is Raphael Doron, so we have longish names too... but the name I want for this baby is super short. And part of me is second guessing that it won't match their names because of that. But maybe that's a little OCD of me.

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[simkan]

Surrounded, Nathaniel Blake doesn't strike me as particularly long, and he can always be Nate for short! We're big into longer, unique names with a nickname ready at birth ourselves ;)

I woke up from bad dream just now where a nurse said, "Oh, well you have girls, so that's ok," after I filled out a form wrong, and I got angry and asked if she just spoiled us since we didn't know and she said yes and it was a whole thing. I again feel like my consciousness is telling me. The worst part was not having my sweet boy to comfort me when I woke up :( I feel bad that I just don't have any care or anticipation for this baby anymore without our dog being here. I just want him back so bad.Tp that sounds like a horrible dream! I'm sure they are just your fears playing out and no real meaning. Hope you start feeling better about everything soon!

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[SurroundedByBoys]

I just meant in a learning to write his name format it being long haha Like, his brothers have 5 letter names. Ive gone through thousands of names. Its insane, boys are hard I think!!! My last name is Zeller, so names sound weird with it. I also like the name Devin, as well as Bryce & Quinn. I like more unusual names :)

[hopper]

Surrounded, Nathaniel Blake doesn't strike me as particularly long, and he can always be Nate for short! We're big into longer, unique names with a nickname ready at birth ourselves ;)

I woke up from bad dream just now where a nurse said, "Oh, well you have girls, so that's ok," after I filled out a form wrong, and I got angry and asked if she just spoiled us since we didn't know and she said yes and it was a whole thing. I again feel like my consciousness is telling me. The worst part was not having my sweet boy to comfort me when I woke up :( I feel bad that I just don't have any care or anticipation for this baby anymore without our dog being here. I just want him back so bad.I hope you're feeling a little better to day TP. Time really does heal. I know that's no consolation right now especially in light of your DH issues and that God awful GD but you are an incredibly strong woman and you have GOT THIS! X

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[hopper]

Some fab name choices ladies! I absolutely ADORE Nathaniel. It's on my list but DH thinks it's a little long. I'm also loving Henry but once again DH has vetoed it :/ We have such different taste in boys names.

I had a dream twice this week that I was in labour and delivered the baby. We didn't look to see what gender it was, not intentionally anyway. The midwife was passing baby up to me for skin to skin and the cord was between the legs but both times I could just about make out girl parts. Uh, I will love either gender but oh man it felt so bloody real and that feeling - it was indescribable! I've never dreamed about having a girl, ever. I distinctly remember when having DS2 (before our gender scan) I was convinced he was a boy and I dreamed the same dream over and over again for months. In the dream we were told it was greedy to have more than one son so we had to give away one of them :( It was such a horrible dream. It kinda got worse when the scan confirmed my feelings were right. I felt so guilty at having another boy when I already had a mamas boy. Stupid subconscious! But anyway, I'm here hoping now that this most recent dream is a sign like that dream was! Damn that pesky hope!!

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[Eighme]

I have decided I am going to find out the gender next week. We havent scheduled a day for the private ultrasound, but my husband agreed we could go ahead prior to our 20 week ultrasound.

I feel like I HAVE to know the gender of this so if it's a boy I can start the process of being okay with another boy.

It makes me relieved and all that more anxious at one time.

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[hopper]

I think making the decision to find out brings a mix of anxiety and inner peace. I'm excited for you guys and really truly hope you hear pink! [emoji173]
I have decided I am going to find out the gender next week. We havent scheduled a day for the private ultrasound, but my husband agreed we could go ahead prior to our 20 week ultrasound.

I feel like I HAVE to know the gender of this so if it's a boy I can start the process of being okay with another boy.

It makes me relieved and all that more anxious at one time.

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[Kelbear]

I have decided I am going to find out the gender next week. We havent scheduled a day for the private ultrasound, but my husband agreed we could go ahead prior to our 20 week ultrasound.

I feel like I HAVE to know the gender of this so if it's a boy I can start the process of being okay with another boy.

It makes me relieved and all that more anxious at one time.

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I understand how you feel. I have made the decision to find out at my scan this Friday but haven't slept well in days. I keep waking up at night and just start obsessing over the gender of this baby and can't get back to sleep. I don't know how I am going to cope when I hear boy but I just have to get it over with sooner rather than later before I really do drive myself certifiably insane. I have scoured the web for potty shots like mine and all I can find are ones that turned out to be boys so I know there is almost no hope. Any suggestions for surviving the next 4 days til my scan without driving myself crazy would be appreciated.
I hope so much you hear girl at your scan.

[SurroundedByBoys]

Had the anatomy scan today, and although he was super stubborn, we did get a side shot of his goods, confirming he is indeed a boy. I will probably disappear for a bit, we are directly in the line of Florence in NC (Im just south of Raleigh) and I will likely be losing power. Good luck with your scan <3

[Pretty]

Oh goodness SBB please be safe!!! I hope (if you do lose power) it’s restored quickly! So sorry GD is getting you, I hope as time passes it fades, we’re all here for you!

[Kelbear]

Had the anatomy scan today, and although he was super stubborn, we did get a side shot of his goods, confirming he is indeed a boy. I will probably disappear for a bit, we are directly in the line of Florence in NC (Im just south of Raleigh) and I will likely be losing power. Good luck with your scan <3

Hope you all stay safe.

[Eighme]

I understand how you feel. I have made the decision to find out at my scan this Friday but haven't slept well in days. I keep waking up at night and just start obsessing over the gender of this baby and can't get back to sleep. I don't know how I am going to cope when I hear boy but I just have to get it over with sooner rather than later before I really do drive myself certifiably insane. I have scoured the web for potty shots like mine and all I can find are ones that turned out to be boys so I know there is almost no hope. Any suggestions for surviving the next 4 days til my scan without driving myself crazy would be appreciated.
I hope so much you hear girl at your scan.

I don't even get another scan (without the private one) till 20 week and my last one somewhere in the 32-36 range. So, I guess it's a good thing I don't have potty shots to compare to. I only have had my 8 week ultrasound.

I'm trying to keep myself really busy and not really look at anything baby right now. It's the only thing keeping me occupied. I so hope you hear girl too. I dwell way too much when I sit and think about it.

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