Pink swayers' December thread [Archive] - Page 3

Jamie86

December 20th, 2011, 04:12 PM

Auroara, I definitely don't feel that I can't have a girl. And before I found this site I really just felt like my next child would be a girl and I'm not even really sure why. But then I started to think maybe I'm being too confident and decided to look into ways to tip the odds a little more. I really didn't read the dream as meaning (in all my dream reading expertise :) ) I would have either sex. To me it was more about stopping myself from being afraid to admit I will have some level of sadness if my next child is a boy. I've really been afraid to say it and have been saying that I am swaying for a girl but I will not be sad if it's another boy. I have felt like admitting that would be wrong. But I needed to realize my emotions aren't wrong and it won't change the love I have for any future sons I may have.

Mochagirl

December 20th, 2011, 04:42 PM

So I finally heard from my doctor's office, and it's official...my miscarriage is complete. My u/s showed that my uterus is completely clear and I already know from Friday's results that my HCG is zero. Phew! It's so nice to know things are back to normal.

lemon2012

December 20th, 2011, 08:33 PM

So many posts,.,...so little time!
The kids are acting up and it is almost bedtime...but for anyone out there...what should I do!

I agree with Jamie...I am a rephresh newbie! I think I used too much. Maybe 3 tubes in a week...is that bad?
Of course, I bd cd 9, 10, 11, 12, twice on cd 14...o day I thought.
So, now I am cd 15...still EW, and super dark super postiive OPK..usually I get these super dark ones on peak day so I think for once instead of oing in the afternoon I od overnight....???
Not sure!
Do I have to bd again?
It would be o or maybe o plus a few hours.
What do you guys think?
It is hard on DH and I with so much to do and we are soooo tired!
We work until the 23rd and we are ready to be home and get things ready for Christmas.

Mocha....just dtd every day until you leave and then add in a mile high and an in law bathroom break...lol!
Seriously, maybe since you are so awesome with the diet (incredible!) and you are swaying after a mc (which is not easy but might sway girl), and you are so careful with your bding I think you have all the right sways so you need to get pregnant! I believe girl for sure for you!

Auroara, are you going to have more than one attempt?
Did I over do it? UGH!
I bet I am not pregnant after all that wonderful bding....(insert sarcasm).

Do I have to go again today?
DH thinks there was actually sperm in there yesterday but it was o day or 0 minus a few hours.
Should I get more in there?

PS: does anyone feel pressure in their butt,...(sorry if tmi but I figure this is the place to ask!) or actually feel and see if it is swollen down there?
I am just wondering if there is something wrong with me. I get wicked o pains as well, the last thing I want to do is have sex.

Thanks everyone!
The moon is new too:)

Mochagirl

December 20th, 2011, 09:21 PM

Mocha....just dtd every day until you leave and then add in a mile high and an in law bathroom break...lol!
Seriously, maybe since you are so awesome with the diet (incredible!) and you are swaying after a mc (which is not easy but might sway girl), and you are so careful with your bding I think you have all the right sways so you need to get pregnant! I believe girl for sure for you!

Thanks, lemon :HH: If I don't O in the next two days, I'll be shocked. My cervix is open so wide a truck could drive through there, I have horrible cramps and I've become an ewcm factory. There's so much that in combination with the cramps, I started to think maybe my period was coming back until I checked just to make sure. There's so much ewcm I think I might have to pop a benedryl tonight in combo with my zyrtec. I hope this is a sign of the super fertility you're supposed to have after a m/c!

rainbowflower

December 21st, 2011, 05:07 AM

I feel fed up! I don't know what my body is doing, don't know when/if I've OVed thanks to weird temps... we're not getting much BD in (well, none) because DH is ill.. I feel like we're out already this cycle before we even had a chance to start. :(
my OPKs don't even seem to be starting to fade in yet.. unless I've missed that and it happened pre-CD10

Mochagirl

December 21st, 2011, 09:00 AM

I'm sorry, rainbow. I know how frustrating a wonky cycle can be. :HH:

If you did miss an early O, did you get any attempts in then?

Mochagirl

December 21st, 2011, 10:12 AM

rainbowflower

December 21st, 2011, 10:18 AM

Mocha if we did miss OV we either got a BD in on OV day or 2 days before (depending when my crosshairs move to)

I used to get an ovulation dip EVERY CYCLE and it would last 2-3 days as well... it was really handy. I haven't noticed it to the same extent lately.

do you normally get a fade-in on OPKs?

Out of the Blue

December 21st, 2011, 10:20 AM

I've been MIA the past few days b/c it's been so busy around here and I have not caught up on posts from the past few days :oops: but I just saw your post Mocha, so I'm just jumping right in...

I think you are gettting very close to O'ing...I usually get a dip like that (you can check my charts) so it's normal for me. I really hope you do O todayish! Regarding the RepHresh, if it feels right, use it. My :twocents: would be to not do a J&D right away if you do use it. You're probably swaying enough so letting the stuff hang out a bit won't hurt IMO. Hope this helps!!!:HH: :pinksperm: :cheer:

:cheerteam:

Out of the Blue

December 21st, 2011, 10:21 AM

Mocha if we did miss OV we either got a BD in on OV day or 2 days before (depending when my crosshairs move to)

Aren't moving crosshairs just so annoying!?!

Out of the Blue

December 21st, 2011, 10:23 AM

Mocha....just dtd every day until you leave and then add in a mile high and an in law bathroom break...lol!

:agree:...lol!

Mochagirl

December 21st, 2011, 10:26 AM

That's great that you got some attempts in just in case you had an early O. At this point would your best case scenario be to get crosshairs for one of those early days?

Check out my chart (in my siggy) - is this what your ovulation dip usually looks like? My temp this morning was actually even lower than that at the normal time - I took the temp on the chart when I was up with the kids about 30 minutes earlier than my normal time, then when I took my temp at the normal time just for the heck of it, it was .6 degrees lower! I decided to use the first temp since I hadn't been up and around before taking it. I was just surprised about that second one because I thought if you'd been up and moving before taking your temp it would go UP not down.

I usually get a bit of a fade-in on my OPKs, but the tests from yesterday and this morning are still quite faint. If I went by my usual patterns of OPKs (and disregard the crazy fertility signs my body's giving me) I would think I might still be days away from O. I'm hoping, though, that with the m/c my hormones might be slightly different and I will be surprised by a sudden +OPK instead of having to wait days longer.

Did you have massive amounts of ewcm in the first cycles after m/c?

Out of the Blue

December 21st, 2011, 10:29 AM

Jen, are you still going to test on Christmas day at 10 dpo? Did FF change crosshairs again? Do you feel anything possibly preggy-like?

It's still my plan to test at 10 (or 12???) dpo on Christmas morning. Yesterday, I was feeling some things but today, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and thinking I'm out but it's still fun to analyze and over-analyze everything, lol! If I have to do this darn 2ww over a few more times, I’ll probably just be :hide: until it’s testing time. I'm kind of feeling like I want to hide today, lol.

Mochagirl

December 21st, 2011, 10:30 AM

Regarding the RepHresh, if it feels right, use it. My :twocents: would be to not do a J&D right away if you do use it.

Yeah, I don't plan on doing a J&D. Last night I was going to get up 5 minutes after dtd to do a J&D, but I fell asleep for awhile (damn benedryl!) so I'm not sure how long I left it. That's one of the things that started getting me worried about my sway, since that's how I conceived all my boys - just falling asleep after dtd and letting everything stay in there until morning. Maybe I will put in a fingerful of rephresh now - it'll be about 12 hours before our attempt, so hopefully that's far enough away to not kill all the sperm. It won't affect the sperm that are already in there, right?

Hey - I asked rainbow but wanted to ask you too - did you find you had more ewcm and other fertility signs than usual after your m/c? I've had crazy cramps for 3 days now - both O pains and af-like cramps. I don't normally get nearly this much cramping at O time. I also have so much ewcm I think I need to put on a liner!

Out of the Blue

December 21st, 2011, 10:35 AM

I usually get a bit of a fade-in on my OPKs, but the tests from yesterday and this morning are still quite faint. If I went by my usual patterns of OPKs (and disregard the crazy fertility signs my body's giving me) I would think I might still be days away from O. I'm hoping, though, that with the m/c my hormones might be slightly different and I will be surprised by a sudden +OPK instead of having to wait days longer.

That happened to me this time w/the OPKs...I alway get a nice fade pattern and my body, CM etc. always corresponds but this time no fade pattern and when my 1st + came, I was already starting to get a bit less soft in there. Glad you got 2 attempts in! :cheer:

Mochagirl

December 21st, 2011, 10:39 AM

I'm glad I got those attempts in too, just in case. We'll dtd tonight as well, so that'll be at least 3 good attempts. If I don't get the +OPK today, we'll try to figure out a way to have another attempt Thursday night at MIL's house.

auroara78

December 21st, 2011, 10:43 AM

Mocha, if the Rephresh feels right because of the EWCM I'd say do it...i am of the opinion that tons and tons of EWCM sways boy, but that may be because I used to be an EWCM factory queeen...and well....I have boys :)

Jamie, re: emotions and accepting them, I feel the same way. When I first came on IG and read all the posts about really being disappointed with having a boy, or mothers who could not imagine how they'd ever bond with their sons, it raised all sorts of emotions in me and I became very protective of my sons and the idea of mothering them, and that led me to this weird stance that while I still wanted a girl, I'd never regret another boy if I had him. I don't know why reading those posts struck such a raw nerve in me (everyone has a right to her emotions, and who I am to judge how they feel about their children?) but it just really disturbed me, and it made me lean the opposite. I DID experience sadness that DS2 was indeed a boy, but reading those very sad negative posts about raising boys on IG brought the Mama Bear out in me and I had convinced myself that another boy would be fine, just great. That I just wanted a 3rd child.

Well...now I've come to the conclusion that while I would definitely love another boy, I would BE sad. It would be a dream lost if I did not get a little girl, and get to experience that. It is really hard admitting that to myself, because I have this weird pride issue with my boys. I love them to pieces, as I'm sure we all love our boys to pieces....but it would beyond amazing to have a daughter!

Lemon, you did do a lot of DTDing but a lot of rephresh too! I think if you got pregnant, it could very well be a girl. Is it new moon where you are at? It's not new moon in Virginia until Christmas Eve at 11:30 ish pm.

Rainbowflower, did you not get any attempts at all in this cycle?

Amari, are you out there, lurking? Back from Mexico yet?

Jen, the 2WW is maddening! I always feel liek time gets slowed down while in it! Hehe!

Out of the Blue

December 21st, 2011, 10:46 AM

That's one of the things that started getting me worried about my sway, since that's how I conceived all my boys - just falling asleep after dtd and letting everything stay in there until morning.
I think you're fine and actually wise to do that this time as you've used the RepHresh and the J&D might just be too much swaying to get preg. Last time, you weren't swaying in this same manner at all from what it sounds like...I think you're doing just great to get preg and still sway girl!

It won't affect the sperm that are already in there, right?
Won't affect what's in there from earlier...those guys should be long gone!

Hey - I asked rainbow but wanted to ask you too - did you find you had more ewcm and other fertility signs than usual after your m/c? I've had crazy cramps for 3 days now - both O pains and af-like cramps. I don't normally get nearly this much cramping at O time. I also have so much ewcm I think I need to put on a liner!

I didn't have a TON of CM but I have found that I've been more "engorged" or "swollen" in there for a longer period. EEEK...probably TMI! :oops: I usually get kind of swollen in the innner folds (not sure how else to describe it) for about 2-3 days around O time but these last two times, I was like that for like 5+ days!

Also, I was (and have been) getting cramps after DTD (way before and continuing through O time), almost like the sperm were up there, reporting for duty and having a party while wating for the egg...Felt like there was a lot of debauchery goin' on up in there a few hrs after DTD.

Out of the Blue

December 21st, 2011, 10:51 AM

Jamie, re: emotions and accepting them, I feel the same way. When I first came on IG and read all the posts about really being disappointed with having a boy, or mothers who could not imagine how they'd ever bond with their sons, it raised all sorts of emotions in me and I became very protective of my sons and the idea of mothering them, and that led me to this weird stance that while I still wanted a girl, I'd never regret another boy if I had him. I don't know why reading those posts struck such a raw nerve in me (everyone has a right to her emotions, and who I am to judge how they feel about their children?) but it just really disturbed me, and it made me lean the opposite. I DID experience sadness that DS2 was indeed a boy, but reading those very sad negative posts about raising boys on IG brought the Mama Bear out in me and I had convinced myself that another boy would be fine, just great. That I just wanted a 3rd child.

Well...now I've come to the conclusion that while I would definitely love another boy, I would BE sad. It would be a dream lost if I did not get a little girl, and get to experience that. It is really hard admitting that to myself, because I have this weird pride issue with my boys. I love them to pieces, as I'm sure we all love our boys to pieces....but it would beyond amazing to have a daughter!

I feel very much the same way! If I didn't, I'd either stop at 2 or go HT. I want a 3rd no matter what. I want a girl too! If we have a boy, he'll be loved to bits as well and so very much wanted! AND I will always be sad that I don't have a daughter and mourn her absence, not our sweet boy's presence...

KraizyDaizy

December 21st, 2011, 10:57 AM

I can't figure out what's going on with my temperature. Anyone here ever get an ovulation dip? My temp keeps going down and down - that's never happened to me before O - I hope this means O's about to happen!

DH and I had another attempt last night. I still have tons of EWCM, cramps and cervix is SHOW. I'm really praying I get that +OPK today. I used an ic with FMU, but it was negative. I'm going to hold my pee all morning and take a better test around 1. :fx:

After all my talk about skipping rephresh this attempt, I'm actually considering adding it back in. I used 1/2 tube 2 nights ago a few hours before dtd because we hadn't finished our FR plan. Now, 2 days later, I'm thinking of using another fingerful to top up what's in there. It's just that I have sooooo much ewcm and even when I take both zyrtec and benedryl it doesn't seem to touch it, so I'm worried with that and without 7 days of frequent release my chances of a boy are still quite high. What do all think?

I always get a dip at O, see my chart.

With my first two boys, I had so much EWCM that when O would arrive or be emment, it would feel like I started my AF and I would go check my panties to make sure. It would be globs of EWCM gross! With our last two boys, still had EWCM, but no where like with the first two. Now even before swaying, like almost nothing when is comes to EWCM, so I am hoping this will help me get my girl. I use Benedryl and this is the first cycle I tried RePhresh just to make sure it is gone, so all this being said, I definitely think EWCM got me my boys. I might not use as much RePhresh or Replens next cycle if I am not pregger, but I do think I will still use it because I have to get rid of the EWCM even if it is just in my head that it is even there LOL!!!

Mochagirl

December 21st, 2011, 11:03 AM

Also, I was (and have been) getting cramps after DTD (way before and continuing through O time), almost like the sperm were up there, reporting for duty and having a party while wating for the egg...Felt like there was a lot of debauchery goin' on up in there a few hrs after DTD.

:rofl:

KraizyDaizy

December 21st, 2011, 11:08 AM

KraizyDaizy

December 21st, 2011, 11:11 AM

PS: does anyone feel pressure in their butt,...(sorry if tmi but I figure this is the place to ask!) or actually feel and see if it is swollen down there?
I am just wondering if there is something wrong with me. I get wicked o pains as well, the last thing I want to do is have sex.

Thanks everyone!
The moon is new too:)

Yes, I feel that pressure when I O. I wondered if it was normal or not. I have severe abdominal pains as well, so much that I don't want to DTD. Baby making just should not be that painful LOL!!!

KraizyDaizy

December 21st, 2011, 11:13 AM

Mochagirl

December 21st, 2011, 11:23 AM

kraizydaizy - it's possible you can have an implantation dip as early as 3 dpo, so that could be what it was!

So, I ended up using the rephresh - just a finger full. I'm not going to bring it with me on my trip, so that will be the last time I use it this cycle. I just don't want to have regrets that I didn't do enough this cycle, and this ewcm is out of control, so I feel like I need to do a few more swaying tactics than I planned. Hopefully it won't stop me from getting my BFP. We definitely won't JAD - I'll just let myself fall asleep after dtd. I may not use the antihistamines as well tonight - well, maybe just the zyrtec (I'll see how much ewcm I have by suppertime, when I normally take it) but definitely not both that and benedryl.

Out of the Blue

December 21st, 2011, 11:59 AM

Well, would you all care to look at my chart (siggy)? I am not sure if I Oed when it said I did or not. Yesterday, I had what I think could be an implantation dip, but according to my chart that would just be 4DPO and isn't that too early?

It looks like you've got this 4dpo dip in quite a few of your charts. I have the same type of dip most cycles at 2-3 dpo. :fx: that this is an imp dip for you!!! :cheer:

sweetsister

December 21st, 2011, 03:02 PM

is your DH releasing on the alternate days?
the OPKs are unlikely to be wrong, but perhaps you OV a bit later after the pos OPK than most? or maybe it's just bad luck that you haven't had a BFP yet. temping would tell you for sure when you OV

Yes he releasing the alternative days,yeah i cant temp i have to be up and ready for battle with my youngest and i really cant be bothered,and im thinking its either later or even before the +opk but normally after 2 days of +opks i get o pains so who knows?

Mochagirl

December 21st, 2011, 03:37 PM

I just did my OPK, and it was much darker than yesterday, but still not +. I even wasted a digi just to make sure it was negative, and got an empty circle :(. I still think O is close, though. I have a feeling my surge will come overnight or tomorrow. I'll be traveling during my normal testing time tomorrow so I'll do a test with FMU then either try to test at the airport before our flight, or when we get to MIL's house around suppertime.

DH is working from home today so we sneaked in an extra BD session this afternoon. We'll dtd again tonight, then hopefully find a place to dtd at MIL's house tomorrow night.

KraizyDaizy

December 21st, 2011, 03:50 PM

KraizyDaizy

December 21st, 2011, 03:51 PM

It looks like you've got this 4dpo dip in quite a few of your charts. I have the same type of dip most cycles at 2-3 dpo. :fx: that this is an imp dip for you!!! :cheer:

Outoftheblue, since I have had many previous dips like this, more than likely it's just like the previous ones I think? Surely I have not been getting to the implantation all these months and then it not sticking?

Out of the Blue

December 21st, 2011, 04:01 PM

Outoftheblue, since I have had many previous dips like this, more than likely it's just like the previous ones I think? Surely I have not been getting to the implantation all these months and then it not sticking?

That was the same exact ? I was asking myself yesterday when I saw my dip in all my charts but In my case, I don't think it was an imp dip w/my bean not sticking b/c I wasn't TTC on those cycles and we were careful. I'm thinking it's probably just a natural dip in our cycle but :fx: still for you. Isn't the 2ww just maddening!?! I'm either 6, 7 or 8 dpo today so we're close!

rainbowflower

December 21st, 2011, 04:03 PM

KraizyDaizy

December 21st, 2011, 05:16 PM

progesterone levels do drop after a few days - that looks like a normal chart shape to me
it hasn't dropped below coverline and it's too early to be an implantation dip - that normally happens at 7 or 8dpo, but can be 5dpo at earliest
generally the "shape" of a chart during the 2ww gives no clues as to what is happening in relation to conception

Thanks for the information rainbowflower. I really appreciate it!!!! I keep trying to dissect each and every twinge and temp I get LOL! It is crazy trying to figure it all out! I hope my temps stay high cause that means you are more likely pregnant right?

rainbowflower

December 22nd, 2011, 03:17 AM

no problem ;) I used to analyse every single new temp/sign when I started temping too :)

rainbowflower

December 22nd, 2011, 03:43 AM

my OPK seems to be starting to get darker!! not sure how long it will take to get a proper positive, in the past it has varied from 2 days to 5 days... but I was taking vitex and BF less this cycle so maybe it'll be on the shorter side of things

Mochagirl

December 22nd, 2011, 07:54 AM

Yay, rainbow! My OPKs have been almost the same for days now - dark enough that I think O is imminent, but not dark enough to be +. It's getting veeeery frustrating. To confuse things more, I had two ICs that looked *almost* positive yesterday. My cervix is still SHOW and as far as I can tell I still have EWCM.

My temp's gone up a little today - not enough to be a spike since it's still below my usual coverline, but enough to be noticeable after that dip I had the last 2 days. If it keeps climbing, I wonder if FF will give me crosshairs again without a +OPK?

rainbowflower

December 22nd, 2011, 08:03 AM

how far apart did you test? it could be that the peak of the surge happens between the two
for me, I usually OV when my temp rises back up from the pre-OV dip (i.e. not the initial temp rise back up to normal pre-OV levels, but the day of the second rise)

Mochagirl

December 22nd, 2011, 10:05 AM

I've been testing constantly the past couple of days - probably once every 3-4 hours, but I only use the good tests in the early afternoon. I have two different types of ICs - both looked almost positive last night but are far fainter this morning (maybe because I used FMU, which isn't recommended). I also took a First Response test today at the same time as the IC, and it's definitely darker than yesterday's 2pm test. Is it possible the ICs and the FR are detecting different parts of the surge? I have ONE digi left, which I'm saving to use later today - probably at the airport.

auroara78

December 22nd, 2011, 10:09 AM

Hey all,

DH and I DTD last night, though I think now we should wait closer to O, oh well, he wanted to and I didn't want to turn him down to make him supsicous...lol....so we've had sex this week twice already (that's a lot for my poor hubs, LOL) on Sunday and then last night right when it became Thursday (just past 12 am) so far that was 7 days & 4 days out from O, I doubt anything will come of that DTDing...the plan is to pin him down for the 23rd and 24th. Since I O on Christmas Day itself, I don't want to BD on the 25th after we get home from Stafford because he'll prob be too tired...so we gotta do it Christmas Eve or Christmas morning, but Christmas morning can be tough...so hoping for the 23rd and 24th, and I may use 1/2 appliator or a fingerful of represh...still on the fence...I am trying to go with my gut feeling!

These next few days are going to be crazy gettin ready for Christmas!

auroara78

December 22nd, 2011, 10:33 AM

Question about Zyrtec:

I am starting to produce some nice EWCM (just what I wanted for Christmas....LOL)

For our failed attempt in Oct i used Zyrtec 2 hrs before we attempted to BD that it dried me up sooo much that DH couldn't even get it going and because his sex drive is so low already, he lost his way as it were, and we couldn't even have sex! I keep reading about how Zyrtec is great and may be better for a sway than rephresh, so my question is:

if we BD, could I right afterward take zyrtec and it would it work in time or do I really need to take it before BD'ing to have effect? Like I said, the last thing I want is to be so dry he can't even do anything...that would definitely result in a BFN, hehe.

Out of the Blue

December 22nd, 2011, 11:25 AM

I hope my temps stay high cause that means you are more likely pregnant right?

If they stay up for 15+ days, I think you're in business :cool: but you'll probably get a +HPT before then...

Out of the Blue

December 22nd, 2011, 11:27 AM

If it keeps climbing, I wonder if FF will give me crosshairs again without a +OPK?

If so, you're totally covered BD-wise :cool: :agree:

Have you left yet? Have a safe trip there!

Out of the Blue

December 22nd, 2011, 11:34 AM

Auroara, I think that's great that you got another BD in! I hope you got that jersey for DH b/c maybe that'll make him rally if he knows it's coming (but only if he'll BD w/you, lol!)...

I am starting to produce some nice EWCM (just what I wanted for Christmas....LOL)
:rofl:

As far as Zyrtec goes, I’m not sure and have never included it in my sway. I thought I heard that it takes about 2 hrs to kick in and I don’t think it would have much affect if you took it after BD.

Anyone else have any Zyrtec advice for Auroara???

HopeandDreamG

December 22nd, 2011, 01:40 PM

auroara78

December 22nd, 2011, 02:50 PM

Aurora~ I Don't know if it would make a difference before or after but what about adding a little sylk- its supposed to sway girl and some think it helps you get preggo. You only need like a drop. DH and I tried it for fun used too much it was hysterical....

:rofl:

I can only imagine! Hehh, well problem with sylk I'd have to order it and it won't be in time for my BD'ing!

the thing with my husband is if i change one tiny little thing, his liabdio goes out the window! He's got a tempermental peter, what can I say? :bigsmile:

I'm trying to make this the best sway i can without scaring away my hubs....i just hope we can get two more attempts in before sunday, but that'd make 4 times we'd BD in a week, and that's a lot for him....

and about the jersey....hmmm, still need to find one...sigh

KraizyDaizy

December 22nd, 2011, 04:53 PM

This TWW wait is terrible, but at least I have all this Christmas stuff to do LOL!! I had a big temp dip today, which went below coverline, is that bad?

pinkin2011

December 22nd, 2011, 09:23 PM

Hi everyone I hope this is my last af until I get a bfp at the end of Jan!!!! PLEASE!!!!!! I will be due to O on the 9th of jan, I hope that everyone gets their BFP !!

Mochagirl

December 22nd, 2011, 09:35 PM

Hey ladies - I made it to Nova Scotia. Our trip went as smoothly as a trip with 3 kids under 6 can go, though our flight was delayed about an hour. When we went to leave our house this morning we discovered our van had been broken into. Luckily we have nothing worth stealing, so they only took a parking pass for the university dh works at and our book full of DVDs. I'm a little annoyed about the DVDs - there were probably about 40 in there, and were pretty much all the kids' DVDs we own.

Anyway, still no +OPK. I took one at the airport around 12:30, and it was dark, but not +. So...somehow dh and I need to dtd tonight. So far, the kids are not going to sleep - it's 1.5 hours past ds's bedtime and he's awake and raring to go. I have a bad feeling he's going to end up sleeping in bed with us tonight, which is going to make dtd pretty much impossible. Not sure what to do. If O doesn't come for 3 more days, which is possible, we NEED to get more attempts in. Aaaahhhhh! I'm also stressed about food now. We had meat lasagna for supper, and though I tried to take the tiniest portion possible I can't help but panic about all the protein and sodium I'm eating. It's only going to get worse as the days go by too. PLEASE come soon, O!

lemon2012

December 22nd, 2011, 09:52 PM

HI everyone,
Not sure how much input I have to help anyone.
Zyrtez, is it the same as Benedryl? reactine?

I guess I only relied on rephresh and I have no idea how much I used...other than in total over the course of a week
I do think I washed it all away....but that is because of previous attempts with it while also dtd shallow. This month we dtd full on and on O day.,....twice!
Please tell me that timing does not matter!!!!!!!!!!!
I had started to give up on the diet but now I really cannot handle it.
Olives, bread, cheese.....I ate it all for dinner!
What is done is done I guess!
My next o is the middle of January and right now that seems a long way away.
I do not want to try again next month but I am also afraid of being preg and losing my dream girl as so many of you have said. However, at the same time, I feel nervous about my sway. I think that is normal though.

It is funny bc DS 2 was an oops baby and he was a one shot two day cut off while breastfeeding...we always said he should have been a girl. So, really, there is no guarantee!

Mocha...yeah, you got there safely!
I would see if you can try in the early am....?????
At this point a little lasagna and sodium cannot change your entire environment and you have so many other things swaying!
So, I gather the bathrooms on the plane were too small??? lol!
Besides, I always wake up nightly with one kid or the other!!!! I doubt in a new surrounding they will sleep all night long and if they do.....hmmm, quietly,...oh dear, I cannot believe I am writing this. lol! You do what you have to do!!!

KD, the 2 ww will fly by once Christmas and more activities hit!
I cannot even remember what dpo I am !

pinkin2011.....Did you just get af? Or, are you planning on your jan attempts???

auroara....it sounds like you have some challenges.
I am actually surprised by DH. He is usually only active if I engage in it and he could take it or leave it. He has done so well just coming up for the challenge! I am not sure how he will feel about me posting this...lol!

Hope...I hope you are looking forward to Christmas and your Jan attempt!!

Merry Christmas everyone in a few days!
GOOD LUCK!

Mochagirl

December 22nd, 2011, 10:20 PM

Lemon - Reactine is the same as Zyrtec. As far as I can tell, we don't have Zyrtec here in Canada, but the active ingredient in reactine is the same - cetrizine. Benedryl is something different, and you can actually take it at the same time as reactine, but be aware it will knock you out. I only take it an hour before BD at most because I can't stay awake longer than that once I take it. Reactine is non-drowsy and lasts 24 hours.

And no, we didn't join the mile-high club :rofl:. I still have no idea how we'll dtd, but we'll try our best to find a way. Early morning doesn't work because our boys are early birds - ds3 often wakes up at 5:30!

Mochagirl

December 22nd, 2011, 10:44 PM

Ok, I just went to check my cervix for the first time in many hours, and it seems to be getting firmer and lower, though it's still quite open. My cm seems to be almost creamy too. I did find one glob of ewcm way up high that had a teeny, tiny streak of red blood in it - ovulation spotting??? I'm starting to get hopeful that maybe I O'd today!!! I never did get that +OPK, but one of the ICs I took last night was almost positive. Maybe I surged overnight? Oh please, please let this be the case! I guess tomorrow's temperature will tell, but I suppose we'd better dtd just in case....

pinkin2011

December 23rd, 2011, 03:07 AM

Hi Lemon, Yes I just got af and our first real attempt will be in jan around the 9th I think. I am sticking pretty well to the diet I have been sick so that helps I guess!! I am using Rephresh every 3 days after af and I am taking Vitex and Saw Palmetto.. D/H started his releasing today TWICE today and will be once or twice everyday until I get my + opk I am going to just have one attempt but I want d/h to of released twice in 24hrs before our attempt.. Then a j and d I will do. will see how I go!!

Out of the Blue

December 23rd, 2011, 09:59 AM

This TWW wait is terrible, but at least I have all this Christmas stuff to do LOL!! I had a big temp dip today, which went below coverline, is that bad?

Ohhhh...That dip looks like it could be an imp dip! I probably already asked you but I'm a scatter-brain lately...when are you planning on testing?? If it is an imp dip, I think you could see something + as soon as 24-48 hrs after this but it would depend on how sensitive the test is. I'm really excited to watch your chart to see what happens!!! :luck: :pinksperm: :luck:

Out of the Blue

December 23rd, 2011, 10:01 AM

Mochagirl

December 23rd, 2011, 10:05 AM

I'm really going crazy here. My cervix is still WIDE open this morning (though relatively low and firmer), but my OPKs seem to be getting lighter (with FMU, anyway). I'll test again at mid-day and hope for a better result. My temp was down this morning or I might still be hopeful I O'd yesterday. However, I'm sleeping in a cold room here, so the temps may be off because of that. We're also dealing with a slight time difference. The first time I took my temp was at 5am local time, but only 4am back home - it was 35.83, lower than ever before - usually I'm over 36! But then I started thinking maybe I'd been sleeping with my mouth open and that combined with the cold air made it unnaturally low, so I temped again at about 7:30am local time, or 6:30 at home, and it was 36.23, which is right in line with my normal pre-O temps, so that's the one I used on my chart.

Anyway, we did manage an attempt last night. Once the kids finally passed out, around 10pm, they were out like lights, so we managed a quiet session in the room with them :oops:. I was really hoping that would be the last attempt, but if I don't get that OPK today we'll need to do it again tonight. I'm also starting to worry that I didn't bring the rephresh with me and now we've been dtd for days and I'm worried my ph is getting too high. I don't know if it merits a trip in the newly fallen snow with no snow tires (in a VERY hilly city) to a store to try to find some, or if I'm ok just downing tons of the CL I secretly packed. Thoughts? I'm also taking Baby Aspirin, which should lower my ph a bit.

Out of the Blue

December 23rd, 2011, 10:07 AM

Glad you all made it to N.S. safely, Mocha. Were you able to BD last night or this a.m.? I just saw your chart and I'm thinking travel delayed your O maybe (?) so you'll probably do it today :luck: :fingers: I'm hope you're feeling okay as I know you've been down about the lack of control over food, BD locations/times, etc. :HH: I'm sending you TONS and TONS of O VIBES!!!

Edited to say: we must have been posting at the same time, MJ!

Out of the Blue

December 23rd, 2011, 10:15 AM

Out of the Blue

December 23rd, 2011, 10:20 AM

Please tell me that timing does not matter!!!!!!!!!!!
Lemon, IMO timing does not matter for gender, only for getting preggers :wink: Don't worry, girl!!!

So, I gather the bathrooms on the plane were too small??? lol!

Lol! :)

Out of the Blue

December 23rd, 2011, 10:22 AM

Auroara....Did you get that jersey for DH yet??? :)

Mochagirl

December 23rd, 2011, 10:44 AM

Okay, 1st off I'm kind of jealous, of the snow, Mocha! I'm usually a "palm trees and sand" kind of girl but for Christmas time, I love it. We'll not be getting ANY snow where I am :(

:agree: Glad you got a BD session in!!! Really try to get another in today if you can!

RepHresh-wise, when was the last time you used it? If you choose not to get more, you could always kind of "scoop out" the EWCM before BD as that would help some. Since I've never used CL or aspirine, I'm not sure...Anything I'm not including goes right in one ear and out the other for me :oops: Also as you've said before, the RepHresh may make it too difficult for you to get preg, especially if you're not BD at the right time.

It was supposed to be a green Christmas here too, but we woke up to a winter wonderland this morning. Unfortunately I didn't bring the boys' snowpants or snow mittens (just some thin cotton ones), so we won't be able to play outside much.

I'm already taking zyrtec, which helps some with the ewcm, and maybe I'll get some benedryl too just in case. Maybe I'll skip the rephresh - I used it last 2 days ago, so hopefully I'm still covered today. Honestly, most of the ewcm seems to be gone now - though it's hard to tell because there's semen in there now. I just know that before BD last night it was more creamy/watery, which it was like right before O on my last BFP cycle. As I said, my cervix feels pretty low now, and about medium firm, but is still open enough to fit my whole finger in if I wanted to (which I won't - don't worry).

If I do get my +OPK today I need to decide whether it's worth the hassle of another BD session tonight or whether to leave well enough alone. I usually O within 12 hours of a +OPK. I will PRAY I get that OPK today and my temp goes up tomorrow.

Today I managed to skip breakfast without arousing suspicion, and I scoped the kitchen when no one was around and found some white bread and low fat cream cheese, so maybe I can have that at lunch. I did pack lots of candy to satisfy my munchies, but there isn't much fruit here, and I really rely on that to fill me up. We need to buy diapers anyway, so I might get a few bits of fruit to keep in my room to eat after or before a meal to fill me up.

I like your idea of getting seconds of girl-friendly food - that's what I did last night. I ate a tiny piece of lasagna, didn't eat the bread on the table, and took a second helping of salad. Too bad they only have sodium-filled dressings. I need to snoop a bit more and see if I can find some balsamic....

I really miss my yummy, girl-friendly, tummy filling pasta. Sigh. This diet's going to be even harder in the 2WW because I won't have all the tea and aspartame drinks to fill me up after eating tiny portions of protein-filled meals.

Out of the Blue

December 23rd, 2011, 10:58 AM

I'm already taking zyrtec, which helps some with the ewcm, and maybe I'll get some benedryl too just in case. Maybe I'll skip the rephresh - I used it last 2 days ago, so hopefully I'm still covered today. Honestly, most of the ewcm seems to be gone now - though it's hard to tell because there's semen in there now. I just know that before BD last night it was more creamy/watery, which it was like right before O on my last BFP cycle. As I said, my cervix feels pretty low now, and about medium firm, but is still open enough to fit my whole finger in if I wanted to (which I won't - don't worry).

Forgot about the absence of EWCM and that it had been on the creamy side. B/C of this, I would say skip the RepHresh if I were you, especially w/the other stuff you’re using.

This diet's going to be even harder in the 2WW because I won't have all the tea and aspartame drinks to fill me up after eating tiny portions of protein-filled meals.
I’ve been drinking hot water w/a bit of lemon in it and it’s really good!!! I’ve also been sneaking some stevia in it sometimes b/c I need a little zero cal sweetness and I think it’s okay in pregnancy (although it does sway blue a bit).

Hang in there, Mocha! Sounds like you're doing great!

Mochagirl

December 23rd, 2011, 11:06 AM

So the lemon juice is ok between meals - it doesn't raise your blood sugar? I might also continue to drink 1 cup of peppermint tea or RRL tea during the 2WW to help me deal with the late afternoon munchies. I might even allow myself the occasional diet Pepsi even though I normally try to avoid aspartame while pregnant - but it does a really good job of tricking my body into thinking I've eaten.

Out of the Blue

December 23rd, 2011, 11:11 AM

I would think the scant amount of lemon juice wouldn't do anything to BS levels...I've been using tiny packets of desiccated lemon juice called "True Lemon" and it has 0 cals so I think it's safe...One packet seems to do the trick.

KraizyDaizy

December 23rd, 2011, 11:43 AM

Ohhhh...That dip looks like it could be an imp dip! I probably already asked you but I'm a scatter-brain lately...when are you planning on testing?? If it is an imp dip, I think you could see something + as soon as 24-48 hrs after this but it would depend on how sensitive the test is. I'm really excited to watch your chart to see what happens!!! :luck: :pinksperm: :luck:

My temp went up today and it back over the coverline yay!!! I hope this is a good sign? I seem to always go through so many tests trying to test early and with Christmas, I just don't know if I want to go through all that expense only to be disapointed? I am not sure I have had a dip like this in my previous charts, so I will have to look and decide whether it looks like I should test soon. What is the ealiest it would show up on a test I wonder? I have one FRER test left, so maybe on 10DPO? or after? I have been extremely tired, but that could be all of the Christmas shopping for 4 boys has finally taken it's toll on me LOL!

Any of you mom's get that one gift you could not find in the stores? I feel like wonderwoman tracking down a LeapFrog Explorer LeapPad for my 3 year old. Even the manufacturer was sold out, but I found on on Amazon.com that is being delivered today. The funny thing about is, I ordered and refreshed the page and they were all sold out LOL!! But I got one!!!

Well I hope you all have a very blessed Christmas with your families, and so much PINK baby dust for tons of :pregnant:
announcements very soon!!!!

Mochagirl

December 23rd, 2011, 11:50 AM

KD - sounds like an implantation dip to me!!!

We were going to give ds3 a Leappad, but when I discovered how hard they were to come by I got him a used iPod Touch instead. It was way cheaper ($60 vs. $100 for a Leappad here in Canada) and I know he'll love it because he usually steals mine and plays with it. I loaded it with educational apps and Diego episodes. He's going to FREAK when he gets it. I needed to give him something like that because his brothers are getting DSs and I knew he'd want one too when he saw them.

KraizyDaizy

December 23rd, 2011, 11:57 AM

Mocha,
My older boys are always playing on mine and their dad Iphones, so that was one of the things we were going to get them as well, but I could not find used ones. Where did you get yours? I admit I spent way too much on Wyatt, but he will have more fun with the tablet I think. I hope anyways. And it was just delivered! Yay!!! Now just waiting on Diary of Whimpy kid books for DS2!!!

Mochagirl

December 23rd, 2011, 12:38 PM

I got it on Kijiji from a university student who was selling it because he'd upgraded to an iPhone. There were TONS of iPod Touches listed on our local Kijiji site - most ranged around $100, but every once in a while a cheaper one showed up. The one I got is second generation, which is probably why it's cheaper, but it works fine for everything ds would use it for, and it's in great condition.

Mochagirl

December 23rd, 2011, 04:49 PM

I just took another OPK and it was *almost* positive. It was so close I decided to use my last digi to check, but it was negative. Now I'm left with nothing but ics, but hopefully I'll see a strong positive tomorrow. I think my surge will happen overnight and hopefully O will come tomorrow at some point.

Tonight my MILs making ham. I can't think of anything worse for the diet - meat injected full of salt. I'm going to take the tiniest portion possible and focus on the sweet potatoes and salad. I did go grocery shopping today and bought some girl-approved food I can secretly keep in my room and munch on to fill myself after what will probably be a very small and unsatisfying supper if I manage to avoid eating too much ham.

auroara78

December 23rd, 2011, 04:52 PM

Jen, did not get hubby jeresy :(( he's anxious about money now that he's gonna be a stay at home dad in 2 weeks and he begged me NOT to buy it...that me and the kids are enough (plus he is getting the star was online game collection edition thing that is like 150 bucks so i DID spend money on that man, LOL!)

I told him that I wanna have sex tonight, he said OK and sighed...LOL he cracks me up. If I have to I will pull out all the stops to make it happen...well, maybe not all the stops....but I'm hoping to get an attempt tonight and tomorrow night, but at lest tonight!

I had more EWCM two days ago, its starting to chill out some now, so hopeful I won't need represh or zyrtec....

Good luck ladies..

hope you get more attempts in Mocha....

Lemon when u are testing? have you tested yet??

Jen u still testing on xmas day?

KD, how many dpo are you now and when are you testing??

Hopefully we'll get some BFPs!!!

HopeandDreamG

December 23rd, 2011, 05:43 PM

Mocha~ You are doing so well being away and keeping to your sway!!! Your awesome- what dedication.
KraisyDaisy~ Good for you getting the leapster tablet. My dad went to the toy store and they were like -yeah, no people came at 2am lining up for them!! Not happening here! Gonna cave soon enough and just buy the ipad. Leappad is great though because I would worry about it less- especially out somewhere with the kids. Looks like you may get your BFP.
Out of the Blue~ I'll be stalking you on Christmas.
Auroara~ I guess you'll be stalking DH! haha
Lemon~ How are you woman- Where are you in the 2ww?

I got back from doc regarding my crohns flare and hopefully will be off meds (steriods) long enough to ttc for January cycle. Some of you know I also got clomid and Ovidrel injection trying to figure out if sway will change based on this. Just posted a thread-not sure if I need OPK's with injection. Will I know exactly when O is now? Does anyone know?

Mochagirl

December 23rd, 2011, 07:46 PM

Sorry, hope - I can't answer your questions. I'm glad you'll be able to TTC in January, though.

I managed to avoid the ham at super by eating at the kids' table where no one could see what I was eating. I cobbled a dinner together from the sides: bread and butter, mashed sweet potatoes, salad. I'm still hungry, but at least I didn't have to eat meat tonight.

Mochagirl

December 24th, 2011, 09:11 AM

I got my +OPK with FMU this morning!!! Wooooohoooo! I think my surge started overnight and hopefully I'll O before today is done. I am so DONE with BD - last night I had to bed dh for it, and he sighed and acted like it was something distasteful. Not exactly a fun experience. Anyway, I think we're all done with our attempts - hopefully we've done enough to catch that egg!

HopeandDreamG

December 24th, 2011, 09:33 AM

Hooray mocha. I'm seriously impressed with all you've had to do this attempt. Now you can sit back and relax!!! Happy for you.
Merry Christmas !! Working a bit this morning. Catch up later with everyone

auroara78

December 24th, 2011, 09:46 AM

last night DH and I were cozing up on the couch watching xfiles DVDs and he's talking about how he has to go to bed early...I'm like OK, I'm going to "tuck you in" ...I was joking about having money back guarantee on making sure he fell asleep, he likes when I draw with my fingers on his back, it relaxes him to sleep...so we were going to DTD, and if having sex dind't knock him out to sleep, I'd doodle on his back....

WELL, he was going to go to bed at 11 pm, but he got too wrapped up in an esposide of xfiles and wanted to see the next one, and I remnded him about time, he said he'd be fine, but when it was over, he said he was too tired and he didn't want to go to work today on such a busy day with no sleep! (he works retail, fyi)

Bottom line: we didn't get our attempt in at all yesterday, and now that I've realized what a killer shift he has today at his job, I doubt he'll even be up for it tonight. I guess I'll try him tonight, (He said he'd make it up to me tonight), but he always gives me such empty promises when it comes to sex and does not deliver!

So, I am sure when I pee on the OPK, it's gonna be +. I just have too many symptoms of impending O. My last hope ditch is to tackle him tomorrow morning before the kids get awake, and that's what I did last month on O day and it ended up a BFN....

Soooooooo does anyone think its possible to get pregannt from an attempt 7 days from O and then 3.5 days from O?

Merry Christmas / Christmas Eve to all!

auroara78

December 24th, 2011, 09:48 AM

Mocha, so excited about all your attempts...how many did you get in total? Glad you got a + OPK finally!!! What a relief, eh?

Mochagirl

December 24th, 2011, 10:27 AM

auroara - sorry about the trouble getting your attempts in. Last night dh was sooooo not into it - he got into bed, rolled over and started going to sleep. I just hate having to beg for something I honestly don't want anyway.

Anyway, you can look at the chart in my siggy to see my attempts. I think it's BD on 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 DBO, with 6 days of release before that. As I said, I THINK I'll O today, but if I haven't O'd by bedtime I might have to beg DH for another BD session. Reaaaaallly hoping that doesn't happen.

auroara78

December 24th, 2011, 12:58 PM

Yeah, I don't want to be begging tonight, either...ugh, I begged last night and he still woouldn't do it, it seemed to make him more firm in his "no"...

well i took an opk earlier expecitng it to be full on pos since it's been pos on CD12 for the last 4 cycles and its dead negative, I mean, like not even a faint second line, so I don't know what to think...I'm tired from tossing and turning all night and being mad at DH for not giving me an attempt, and now when I was so sure I had all the signs of impending O, achiness near ovary, feeling a certain way, etc etc, the opk says no. I'm not sure if I screwed up the OPK by holding it too much and moving it around...usually I just lie them down and walk away...

That was my last OPK too the pack so I'll have to deal with Christmas Eve traffic if I want to more opks to test later today. Then I also worry I didn't hold my urine enough...I forgot when I had peed last before hand, so, definitely gonna head to the store I think and get more...when DH comes home...another joy this week has sprung on me: my car won't start! So now not only am I begging for sex, I'll be begging for a ride to work until we can get my car towed and in the shop! (I don't drive his car, I don't handle his car well, so that's why I'll be begging for a ride....plus....I wouldn't want to leave him carless with two kids all week next week)....

Mochagirl

December 24th, 2011, 09:08 PM

Grrrr....I STILL haven't O'd! My OPKs seem to be getting lighter, though it may just be diluted pee from the gallons of tea, Crystal Light and Diet Pepsi I'm drinking. I still think it could come at any moment now, but I was really hoping not to have to dtd tonight. Now I have to decide whether or not we should have another attempt. It's been almost 24 hours since our last attempt, so if O doesn't come until tomorrow, our cut-off will be a little too long for my comfort since I really want to get pregnant. I guess I should just suck it up and beg dh for more sex. Sigh. I'll be really happy to have some penis-free time for a while after this.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

auroara78

December 24th, 2011, 09:47 PM

LOL @ penis free time! haha

amari

December 25th, 2011, 09:01 AM

HI ladies! I'm back from Mexico as of late last night! Hope all is well! I've missed chatting with you! I briefly looked back and see that you all got some attempts in, yay! Sorry you had such a hard time, Aurora.

I had a crazy time. I kept to the LE diet the whole first week, but my dh's family was quite worried and I was really having an almost impossible time finding enough food to eat. I left the US weighing 94 lbs and I'm not sure how much I was at the end of that first week but it wasn't good. I was getting no lines on the opk so we thought I wasn't going to O. Even more family came and met up with us too and was wondering why I wasn't eating anything.
So one morning I put out to the universe how will I get to meet my daughter? Two hours later I met a lady who did one of the high-tech methods, maybe Ericcson? She said it was $500 plus $200 for the meds. Anyways, I decided to eat and drink whatever I wanted the last 6 days and then go back to the LE diet today and look into combining the diet and researching this clinic when we returned. I just couldn't afford to continue the diet anymore away from home with no food choices. Well, of course when I got home last night I o'd on day 21! But I really felt I had no choice given the situation I was in.

It sucks that I took clomid though and didn't even attempt.

So that is where I am. Just o'ing now and not attempting b/c I ate so much the last 6 days. I will start the diet again today and look into ericsson and microsort I guess? Anyone know anything about them?

What's up with you all too?!! xoxo Amari

auroara78

December 25th, 2011, 11:33 AM

Amari, glad to hear you're back safe and sound, but sorry about getting not attempts in :((

Mocha, did u O yet?

I'm not sure if I'm going to O today, I have a sneaking suspicion just based on everything that I might have started to O last night as my O pain got better....

Well, I dunno, I did have an attempt 3.5 days ago, so maybe that did it...? We did attempt this morning at 5 am, I woke him up to have sex (well I made it impossible for him to ignore), lol, and my CM was still abundant but creamy, did not detect any EWCM, where on Friday and Sat it was EWCM, so I might have inadverently hit o+12, LOL....not that it matters to me, I do not believe in timing, except for timing to get preggers

I am hopeful that this cycle did something, considering we did manage 3 attempts in a week of O, though the first one, a week / 6 days before O probably didn't count. I did not use any reprhesh, as i believe with represh I would need to get more attempts than 1 in, and with my hubby, well....I'm lucky to get 1 in when I'm fertile! I took no Zyrtec either since this morning my CM was already so creamy.

Well, I'm really going to try to not stress this 2WW, and just think of it was a bust, so that I won't be fretting over nothing....

Merry Christmas everyone!! Love ya, enjoy your families! We're going to travel to Mom's house later today...yesterday we hosted Christmas here for DH's family and the house is torn up still with gifts and wrapping paper shreds galore!!

HopeandDreamG

December 25th, 2011, 11:43 AM

Merry Christmas EVERYONE!!

Out of the Blue~ Are you testing today? Fingers crossed for you!

Amari~ I've been wondering myself about doing HT. Really on the fence. DOing everything for January attempt (naturally), but I'm really thinking about it! I've even made a call to a clinic. What did this lady tell you?

Mochagirl

December 25th, 2011, 11:46 AM

Well, it looks like I O'd last night. Today my temp was up, my cervix is firm and my cm is creamy. At bedtime my cervix was getting firmer, but the cm was still watery so I might not have O'd yet. I suspect O happened shortly after that - maybe at around midnight, which is kind of nice because that means it was a Christmas O.

DH was very much not in the mood, though, and I didn't want to push it since he was already grumpy. I just hope the attempts I did get in were enough - I think it works out to a 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 DBO attempt. I wish the last attempt was a little closer to O since I think it might have been a little over 24 hours, but as I said, DH just went to bed, rolled over away from me last night and made it clear he was not open for business.

So I guess the 2WW is on. Luckily I have lots to distract me since I'm very busy keeping the kids out of trouble here at the in-laws. We fly home on Thursday, but then we're driving straight to my Mom's house to spend New Year's there with her. I guess January 1st will be too soon to test since I'll be only 8dpo, so maybe I'll wait until the 3rd or something like that to test.

I'm really worried I messed up my chances by not dtd last night. I really hope I caught that egg!!!!

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Mochagirl

December 25th, 2011, 11:47 AM

Merry Christmas EVERYONE!!

Out of the Blue~ Are you testing today? Fingers crossed for you!

I was going to ask the same thing. I'm sending you BFP vibes right now....

auroara78

December 25th, 2011, 11:49 AM

Mocha, u and I both! Worried about not catching the egg, LOL

and that's funny about him making it clear it was not "open for business"....my husband once told me he feels like I just want him around for a sperm factory, lol.

Amari & HopeDreams, good luck with checking out HT! Good luck on your natural attempt in Jan. HopeDreams!

amari

December 25th, 2011, 11:58 AM

Hopeanddream-I need to email her to get more info b/c we couldn't talk too much. She had two sons and her dh had two sons from a previous marriage. But she said she went to a sperm clinic and they spun her husbands sperm after he "relieved" himself in the clinic. Then she took the test tube of separated sperm under her armpit to another place where she did an IUI. She got pregnant the second time with her now 4 year old little girl. It sounds like the Ericsson method but I don't know? It is in Orange, CA. I need to get the exact name of the place from her. I will let you know when I get more info if you want.

I just feel like such an idiot that I am O'ing right now from the clomid and not trying to conceive. I just ate soooo much rich food the last 6 days I would def get a boy. I really set myself up by doing it on vacation, I have to stop beating myself up but I can't stop. Someone help release me of my guilt!

amari

December 25th, 2011, 12:00 PM

Mocho-good luck in the 2ww!! How exciting! I also o'd last night but didn't attempt! Boo, I ended up on an eating extravaganza while on vacation the last 6 days so we are aborting our attempt this month. HOpe you get your BFP this month!!

Mochagirl

December 25th, 2011, 01:15 PM

Sorry you're feeling guilty, amari - but if you would have spent the entire pregnancy regretting your sway then you made the right decision for you. Next month's attempt will come before you know it :HH:

I really hope I was right about O happening last night - I'm starting to second guess myself. My cm is definitely creamy, but there's tons of it, so I still feel a bit 'wet' like when I have fertile cm. My cervix is way firmer and lower, but still ever so slightly open. I took my temp 3 times last night since I'm sleeping in a strange place and was worried I'd forget. The first time I took it, maybe 4:30ish, it was 36.48, but when I took it an hour later, it was way lower - 36.31, then about an hour after that 36.38. I chose to use the first temp even though it was an hour earlier than my usual time because it's the only one I took before getting out of bed briefly, and I suspect I might have been sleeping with my mouth open the two other times. If I use the first temp, I have a nice temp spike today, but with the others my chart wouldn't look so nice. I'm hoping in 2 days I get my crosshairs for the 24th!

Out of the Blue

December 25th, 2011, 02:48 PM

Just popping on to say, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

BFN and spotting for me this a.m....Feeling out but when AF comes, I'll have a nice cheat day or two...

I'll try to catch up with you all tomorrow. Have a wonderful day today w/you fam & friends! :)

KraizyDaizy

December 25th, 2011, 03:29 PM

Merry Christmas to you all!!! I hope we get some BFPs soon! I am 9DPO and have not caved and tested yet. I guess other than being tired and sore bbs, I don't feel preggers. I am thinking it is just al the extra Christmas activities that are tiring me out. I hate to waste a test and my temp on 8DPO was after being up late wrapping presents while my angels slept, is rather high, but I did get a normal nights sleep once I went to sleep, so I am not sure if that high temp is reliable or not. Then this morning, I was up with our 4th DS and did not remember to temp with Santa coming in the night. I am probably not going to get a BFP, so I am just waiting as patiently as I can for my AF. I do hate to get disappointed and as long as I don't test, the possibilty is still there, and when I do and it's a -HPT, I will be crushed yet another month.

Mochagirl

December 25th, 2011, 03:33 PM

Sending both KD and OoTB BFP vibes....

HopeandDreamG

December 25th, 2011, 04:55 PM

Amari- I really agree with mocha you would have totally regretted it if u attempted this month. I know how your feeling though. I'm even feeling guilty for eating whatever i want for the holidays and I was out this month anyway. attempt not till end of January. I do believe though that after today being strict strict strict till next attempt will be fine.

amari

December 25th, 2011, 11:22 PM

Thanks, girls, that does make me feel less guilty! I am continuing to eat like crazy today and back to strict LE tomorrow!

Mocha-I think you can keep having that a few days after O, no?

fingers crossed for bfp's for all of you out there!

Mochagirl

December 26th, 2011, 08:05 AM

I've stopped worrying myself about the +OPK. I'm fairly sure I'm right about O happening late at night on the 24th, and I'm going to assume that was the case unless proven otherwise. My temp was still up today - not way up, but up enough that if I plug the identical temp in tomorrow I get crosshairs. So...I *think* I'm 2 dpo now. :fx:

Out of the Blue

December 26th, 2011, 11:08 AM

I am probably not going to get a BFP, so I am just waiting as patiently as I can for my AF. I do hate to get disappointed and as long as I don't test, the possibilty is still there, and when I do and it's a -HPT, I will be crushed yet another month.

:HH: & :hug2:, KD! We'll be here to cheer you on! :cheerteam:

Out of the Blue

December 26th, 2011, 11:23 AM

Hi guys…spotting again this a.m. w/lots of cramps. I really thought we’d have a shot w/all the BD sessions we had but I’m really thinking I’m out this month. I’ll hopefully O again in mid-Jan so I’ve got a ways to go. If it’s AF, I wish it would just start already instead of all these stupid cramps and spotting. On to 2012…

Did everyone have a good Christmas (if you celebrate it)? The boys had a splendid one although DH thought it would be a great idea to have Santa put harmonicas in the boys’ stockings. UGH…I’m going to have to track those down and make them disappear. I think we’ll just make them “Christmas” harmonicas and have a one-day-only showing on Christmas every year. Or….I could just make them disappear forever, lol. Honestly, why would he think that they’d be a good idea for a 3.5 and 22 month boys??? Maybe I’m just a Grinch b/c all I got for Christmas was a BFN and impending AF. Sorry, rant over…

Amari, I agree w/Mocha and H&D...You would be having regrets so it's okay. I'm sending you lots of good thoughts to get it in January!!!

H&Ds- thx for stocking me for Christmas…wish I could have showed you a better chart and BFP! Best of luck in Jan w/the Clomid and Ovidrel. I’ll have my fingers and toes crossed for you to get a nice BFP right out of the gate!

YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY, Mocha!!! :cheer: What a relief O has come and passed...Now just try to sit back and think sweet pink bean thoughts for an early 2012 BFP. :HH:

Auroara, you can definitely get preg from your BD pattern,O+12 or not! I’ll be cheering you on in the 2ww!!! I hope you have a good time at your Mom’s house. BTW, despite my efforts to clean yesterday, the house is a BIG mess again w/new toys everywhere!

KraizyDaizy

December 26th, 2011, 02:45 PM

Spotting this morning and I believe I hurt my back carrying my 3yr old to bed last night grrrrrh!!! Glad I did not waste a test, cause more than likely this spotting will be full blown AF soon. Christmas is over and now my AF, I am so depressed. I told my DH and just cried on his shoulder. I hate this swaying, I really do! I am fed up with it! Sorry, but it's true. I feel like I am being punished for trying to control what I am not supposed to. My Christian beliefs are at war with swaying this afternoon. Should I sway or should I just DTD and let the Lord have "Hisway" and not "Mysway"? So confused....

Mochagirl

December 26th, 2011, 04:10 PM

KraizyDaizy

December 26th, 2011, 04:22 PM

Sorry you're feeling so down, KD. This swaying/TTC thing is TOUGH. Could you maybe try lightening your sway next month to see if that gets you your BFP? I would totally understand if you decide to drop it entirely - we all need to do what's best for us. :HH:

Mocha,
Thanks so much. I have been TTC for over a year and a half, so I am tired. I think if I do decide to try again, I will go all natural DTD through O, with JAD and no additive RePHresh or Replens. I will not be strict on diet, I just can't be, but I always eat like a bird, and low salt and meats for sure. The stress of the diet is very hard on me, not because I cannot keep to it, just that I have to change my menus for the boys so much. I cannot take meat and potatoes off the menu, and trying to make two dinners is so hard when you work full time. I guess if I just had a grasp on small meals I could make in advance it would help. I just don't know right now. I am devastated....heartbroken, and feeling so selfish for it...

KraizyDaizy

December 26th, 2011, 04:40 PM

:HH: & :hug2:, KD! We'll be here to cheer you on! :cheerteam:

Thanks OOTB, but looks like AF is here. Saddened and heartbroken, but I will get over it. I have for over a year and a half, and you would think I would be used to it by now LOL.

Mochagirl

December 26th, 2011, 05:17 PM

That's definitely a long time to be swaying. I think your plan sounds great. I've only been swaying since last May (and was pregnant for 3 months before my m/c), but even I'm planning to drop the rephresh if I don't get my BFP this cycle. I know what you mean about making 2 dinners every night. I'm a SAHM, but I still find it overwhelming at times. It was such a relief after I got my last BFP to be able to start making only one meal a night again!

amari

December 26th, 2011, 06:28 PM

Sorry KD that you are feeling so discouraged. It is really hard to do on top of all the other things in life. I find that I eat the same things everyday which is really boring but at least less stressful. Good luck and kup!

ootb-i hope it is implantation spotting and not af, if not, 2012 will be here soon and I'll be there with you! What day post O are you?

How about you Aurora and mocha?

Mochagirl

December 26th, 2011, 06:32 PM

Sorry KD that you are feeling so discouraged. It is really hard to do on top of all the other things in life. I find that I eat the same things everyday which is really boring but at least less stressful. Good luck and kup!

I agree! MY stand-by is pasta with sauteed veggies and parmesan. I find it tasty and filling, and I can have it on my plate in 10-15 minutes. Sometimes I like to think outside the box and come up with more original ideas, but honestly, I often eat that same dinner about 4-5 times a week.

I'm doing alright - I'm 2dpo now, and have TONS of creamy cm, which I suppose could be taken as a good sign (though I'm fairly sure I've had this on BFN cycles too). I'm REALLY sick of being here at the in-laws and am about ready to kill my MIL, who seems to disapprove of EVERYTHING either my kids or I do. I'm so thankful we live across the country from them as I think I WOULD kill her if I had to see her more than 2-3 times a year. A week is a LONG time to be here - I'm counting the minutes until we can go home.

sallygal

December 27th, 2011, 12:21 AM

Hi girls... Jumping in here! Now thinking I should have been like Amari and aborted out attempt this month :( I am now 1dpo and way went over calories last night- yes the night I ovulated!! Although think I ovulated during the day, we DTD during the morning. I had only started the LE diet about 2 weeks ago when joining on here- I had lost about 2kgs in that time (am slim anyway so prob can't lose too much more). Prior to this I had been on Ingender and just doing the high calc, mag and low sodium, pottas. Have been doing that for prob 3 months now. I spose I have sort of been doing both in the last few weeks. I checked my PH throughout yest and today and still very low so am happy with that part (prior to me swaying my Ph was very high so prob was when we had boys). I am also on supps- calc, mag, virtex, cranberry and started taking saw palmetto leading up to O. Hubby also abstained for 10 or so days (complete opposite to what we did with boys). So only DTD morning of O. Used represh 3 days before O and half a tube day before O. Used sylk when bding. I had a vinegar douche also but decided against it at the last minute because our last 2 attempts haven't worked so starting to drop things off to increase chances of pregnancy. We were trying cut off and have been getting closer to O with only one attempt. I am just hoping that IF this has worked this time then my diet and Ph is sooo different to when I got pg with my boys then maybe everything will be okay. Oh also have been drinking a heap load of pepp tea and caff free diet coke. Ahhhhhh... anyway just had to vent that and hope I haven't stuffed it all up :(
Oh was also a new moon too :)

Everyone else so dedicated! Keep it up and fingers crossed for some bfps- and pink ones at that!!

rainbowflower

December 27th, 2011, 01:56 AM

sally I wouldn't worry about it especially if on the whole you're losing weight

1dpo here too

quite a lot of us pink swayers have OVed around the new moon this cycle haven't we?

drowning in boys

December 27th, 2011, 02:48 AM

My Christian beliefs are at war with swaying this afternoon. Should I sway or should I just DTD and let the Lord have "Hisway" and not "Mysway"? So confused....

KD I know just what you mean. I believe God is in control no matter what, so we are limited on our influence on the situation. I do though also believe he wants to see our dedication to a dream at times before answering our prayers. In my mind thats how I see this whole thing i guess, like sometimes we are given the tools by him to make our own dreams come true, we just have to be willing to put in the work for it to come to pass. We cant control what kind of baby he ultimately blesses us with, but we can control our biology with the intelligence and tools he has given us and so I dont see the harm personally since all things come thru him anyhow. So this diet and supplements, all this trying to catch lightening in a bottle we are doing... it is just us putting in our half of the work to make our dreams come true. I believe we serve a forgiving, loving and just God and I know he values each one of us and hears our prayers, and doesnt punish us or hold a grudge. Id just suggest you pray about it and ask God to guide your path and if you believe that means just DTD and let the rest go, welp so be it!! I pray you will find the clarity of mind you are looking for (along with a BFP! :wink: )

drowning in boys

December 27th, 2011, 02:52 AM

quite a lot of us pink swayers have OVed around the new moon this cycle haven't we?

I am 4 dpo now, so woohoo new moon!! praying thats a mighty powerful moon, because I sure did fall off the wagon with my diet just when it started to matter :( /sigh we did at least get the cutoff right, so thats positive at least!

my ph is ridiculously high now though and I cant get it down... suggestions on a fix? or should i bother?

rainbowflower

December 27th, 2011, 03:11 AM

at 4dpo I wouldn't worry about it - the conception will have already happened!

drowning in boys

December 27th, 2011, 03:24 AM

at 4dpo I wouldn't worry about it - the conception will have already happened!

yeah i suppose so, for better or worse! lol... this was just my very first cycle since i had my mirena removed so while i would be THRILLED to have a BFP waiting for me on the 7th, I would kinda like another try at this swaying pink thing too... only time shall tell!

rainbowflower

December 27th, 2011, 03:39 AM

~~~~pink baby dust~~~~ to us all then :) would be a great start to 2012!

rainbowflower

December 27th, 2011, 04:17 AM

so how many attempts did we all get in?
DH released and discarded at O-3, we BDed at O-2 in the early hours of the morning, DH released and discarded in the morning of O-1 and then we BDed again in the evening after DS went to bed, and then yesterday about 24hrs after our previous attempt. CM had gone creamy then, so I think that attempt was probably an O+12-ish attempt.

so 3 attempts (plus 2 release+discards) within 72hrs. Poor DH said he felt quite sore after all that!

Mochagirl

December 27th, 2011, 09:02 AM

We had attempts on O-5,4,3,2 and 1. I wish we'd also gotten an attempt in on O-day, but DH was getting tired and grumpy about the whole thing, so I didn't push it. I'm 3dpo now - got my crosshairs today! Pink baby dust to all of us!

Jamie86

December 27th, 2011, 09:44 AM

I got in 3 attempts at O-3, O-1 and on O.

I had planned O-2, O-1, and O but O snuck up on me so I missed O-2 but had an accidental attempt at O-3. I told DH I was a while away from O but it was ok if he released inside that one time.

The reason it snuck up on me is because I didn't O until CD21 last cycle and then this cycle I Oed on CD15 (which I am so grateful that this cycle was shorter).

auroara78

December 27th, 2011, 10:32 AM

I got in two attempts at what I thought was 3DBO and O day itself (Christmas)....

However, I usually get a pos OPK on CD12, and did not have a pos on CD12, though on CD12 I had EWCM (not a ton of it, but enough that I saw it stretched, sorry for TMI), things were still abundant but creamier on CD13 (when I usually O, which was on Sunday, Dec. 25th)...

BUT my temps are still pre-ovulatorary range, 97.6 to 97.2 :( So I have no idea what this means, is it even possible to O if temps do not spike above 98? My post ovulatory temps usually stay at mid to high 97s sometimes 98, so today the temp being 97.2 really depressed me :(

I am really new to temping, so does it go down after a few days? I had a funny feeling that I may have even O'ed early, since I had quite a bit of CM leading up to all last week, and on Friday night leading into Saturday I wanted to have sex so bad I could hardly sleep! What if I O'ed then instead? I wasn't temping consistently last week :( I kept getting awake and then remembering, and then deciding not to do it...I started faithfully temping again just the last two days to see if the O spike had occured....

I am so confused. I think I am out this month regardless, unless that attempt late on Weds night early Thurs might have been closer to O than I thought.

Grrr, this is so confusing, I know what I should have done...I should have consistently been temping and doing OPKs days before O to make sure, but I didn't, I just assumed I'd O on CD13 as I have been doing for months now, and I usually just take that one OPK on CD12 to confirm what I know will happen, but this cycle got totally screwy. I'm so bummed. I don't think there is a chance for pregnancy at all.

Then yesterday, DH and I were talking and he was kind of making fun of my weight (I weigh close to 200 lbs, heaviest I've ever been), and I just blurted otu, "why don't we just put TTC on hold for a while and let me try to lose some wieght?" He said "OK" really fast, and seemed really interested in the idea. I said we'd try again coming up in April, but now I regret being so rash with my words.

Sorry for the novel, but I feel totally miserable with how my attempts this month were pitful, and more frustrated that I never got a clear "hello you definitely O'ed" temp rise....

if I did O on Friday instead, would an OPK be negative the next day? It was two lines, but the test line was way lighter, so it was definitely a negative. Just curious...could drinking peppermint tea x2 a day make O come a lot sooner or can it delay O?

I want to say that I may not have O'ed yet, but all my feelings are dissapating. Like I'm not interested in sex anymore (always a sign O is near, LOL) and my CM is definitely remaining creamy, not watery or EWCM.

Any advice? suggestions before I blow up?

auroara78

December 27th, 2011, 10:49 AM

KD, sorry to hear about AF :( That is heartbreaking! What I would do if I were you would be to just to focus on diet 100%take baby asprin if you can, and leave out the rest of the stuff, drop the rephresh, drop all jels, etc, and just do the diet and frequent BD if you feel you need to. Also, I do believe in the moon theory, so you could check that out just to see if your next O will be in the new moon.

I used a retro due date calculator and looked at the dates, and my two boys were full moon babies, and of us 4 siblings, there was one outlier. My 2nd sister Christine was concieved in full moon, but us other 3 followed the moon theory, so it was 75% right for my Mom :) Haha! I don't believe the moon is fool-proof, I do believe it's about 70-80% right usually.

Question: I had a cycle a few months ago where my temps never rose and it seemed like I didn't O at all. I was tracking my temp that whole cycle really well, and nothing rose above 97.8, didn't get any 98s or anything. My period came as scheduled, was not even a smidgen late. I told my OB that I didn't think I ovulated that cycle because of no temp spike, and he said, 'if you got period', then you did ovulate, but he did not explain why my temps never rose.

I kind of asked the question in my earlier post, but can a woman really O without a visible noticeable difference in her temp? Can you have perfect 28 day cycles but not O?

Out of the Blue

December 27th, 2011, 10:55 AM

Thanks OOTB, but looks like AF is here. Saddened and heartbroken, but I will get over it. I have for over a year and a half, and you would think I would be used to it by now LOL.
I meant that we’d cheer you on regardless of AF coming or not! We’ll be here as long as it takes for you to get preggo, swaying or not…:HH: It sounds like you already eat a fairly good girl diet w/out swaying so that’s GREAT! I understand your frustration w/having to make 2 dinners while working. It’s hard enough to just be working and then have to come home and cook for everyone, let alone make another meal for yourself! If I were you, I may even considering dropping a few J&Ds too (if not dropping them altogether). This last time, I don’t think I even J&D once. Please try not to feel selfish for being heartbroken…You have every right to and it’s completely natural. This is my first attempt after my m/c and I’ve been crying since I tested on Christmas morning. I can’t help it and neither can you. Please take care of yourself and do some nice things for YOU. :hug2:

ootb-i hope it is implantation spotting and not af, if not, 2012 will be here soon and I'll be there with you! What day post O are you?
You're sweet. I have no idea what's going on w/me...Never had a cycle like this, preg or not. :( Thx for your sweet words, Amari.

Out of the Blue

December 27th, 2011, 10:57 AM

I agree! MY stand-by is pasta with sauteed veggies and parmesan. I find it tasty and filling, and I can have it on my plate in 10-15 minutes. Sometimes I like to think outside the box and come up with more original ideas, but honestly, I often eat that same dinner about 4-5 times a week.

I do the same thing...eat the same meals every day b/c I'm waaaay to tired/lazy to try other things and for the most part, I can feel satified w/what I eat (emphasis on "for the most part"!). If I'm really sick of what I'm eating, I go back to one of my previous "favorites" to rotate it a bit. It seems like my reoccuring meals are sauteed mushrooms/leeks/basmati rice/quark or goat cheese, air-popped popcorn, salads and frozen raspberry/rice milk/psyllium husk smoothies. That's almost all I have up my sleeve. DH gets home later than I eat (7ish) so I just make him something after I eat at 6:30. I have one kid who'll eat anything (YAY!) and the other who only eats cereal and yogurt (no joke - :( ) so sometimes I'm making 3-4 meals per night.

I'm doing alright - I'm 2dpo now, and have TONS of creamy cm, which I suppose could be taken as a good sign (though I'm fairly sure I've had this on BFN cycles too). I'm REALLY sick of being here at the in-laws and am about ready to kill my MIL, who seems to disapprove of EVERYTHING either my kids or I do. I'm so thankful we live across the country from them as I think I WOULD kill her if I had to see her more than 2-3 times a year. A week is a LONG time to be here - I'm counting the minutes until we can go home.

When are you coming home??? YAY for MIL's baaaad cooking but BOO for her attitude about you and the kids... :(

Out of the Blue

December 27th, 2011, 10:58 AM

Hey, Sallygal! I think you have every shot in the world at getting a girl if you get a BFP from this last attempt! You’re already slim and I think your body probably recognized the changes going on, especially b/c you lost 2kgs!. Also, using Sylk/RepHresh is great! :agree: Hope you get your BFP this time!

DIB, a few days won’t ruin your sway…Don’t worry one bit! Just try to sit back and keep yourself busy in the 2ww…:flowerz:

Rainbow, Mocha, Jamie and Auroara – your attempts sound great!!! FX for you all!!! :cheer:

Out of the Blue

December 27th, 2011, 11:00 AM

Grrr, this is so confusing, I know what I should have done...I should have consistently been temping and doing OPKs days before O to make sure, but I didn't, I just assumed I'd O on CD13 as I have been doing for months now, and I usually just take that one OPK on CD12 to confirm what I know will happen, but this cycle got totally screwy. I'm so bummed. I don't think there is a chance for pregnancy at all.

You never know!!! Seriously sometimes I think we've got very little control over things sometimes...My last pregnancy was an oopsie...We DTD 7 days before O and we never, ever thought ANYTHING would come of that!

Then yesterday, DH and I were talking and he was kind of making fun of my weight (I weigh close to 200 lbs, heaviest I've ever been), and I just blurted otu, "why don't we just put TTC on hold for a while and let me try to lose some wieght?" He said "OK" really fast, and seemed really interested in the idea. I said we'd try again coming up in April, but now I regret being so rash with my words.

Auroara, DH will understand if you just let him know exactly how you're feeling...You need to be open w/him otherwise it'll weigh on you too much and you'll be so down about it...I know you know this already but maybe just needed someone to say it to you. :HH:

if I did O on Friday instead, would an OPK be negative the next day? It was two lines, but the test line was way lighter, so it was definitely a negative. Just curious...could drinking peppermint tea x2 a day make O come a lot sooner or can it delay O?

??? I don't know the answer to any of your questions...It appears that w/me, sometimes I get +OPKs before O then they're -OPKs when I do O, other times they stay + thru O and go - at 1dpo. I'm not sure about Pep tea affecting O. Sorry I'm no help at all! I'm just as confused as you about my cycle this time. :gloomy:

I want to say that I may not have O'ed yet, but all my feelings are dissapating. Like I'm not interested in sex anymore (always a sign O is near, LOL) and my CM is definitely remaining creamy, not watery or EWCM.

Sounds like you've already O'd if I were to guess...

Any advice? suggestions before I blow up?

:HH: see my responses above...

Out of the Blue

December 27th, 2011, 11:03 AM

I kind of asked the question in my earlier post, but can a woman really O without a visible noticeable difference in her temp? Can you have perfect 28 day cycles but not O?

I'm not ~sure~ but from what I've "heard", it's possible to not have O'd but still have nice cycles. I got my info from what someone said on a FertilityFriend forum so take it w/a grain of salt...Hoping someone can give you a definite answer here...

rainbowflower

December 27th, 2011, 11:46 AM

yeah it would be possible to have regular but anovulatory cycles, but it would be very unusual. If you have a perfect regular cycle you will almost certainly be OVing each time

however, it's possible to have slow-rising temps after OV

Mochagirl

December 27th, 2011, 11:53 AM

auroara - from what I've read, a distinct thermal shift (at least 3 days of elevated temperatures) is the only way to know that you've O'd. You can get +OPKs and not actually O.

This cycle I got a +OPK on the day after O. I ran out of OPKs at that point and so haven't taken any more. It's probably a good thing, because it was making me second guess all of the other signs my body was giving me that O had happened.

Mochagirl

December 27th, 2011, 11:56 AM

Oh, and to answer your question, OoTB, we leave Nova Scotia on Thursday morning, but the current plan is to drive straight from the airport on our arrival to my Mom's place, which is only about 2 hours away from there. It just didn't seem to make sense to drive back home an hour in the opposite direction from my Mom's, only to turn around in a day or two and drive all the way to visit her. A visit with my Mom, though, is the absolute opposite of my experience here. She is most in her element playing with my kids, and it gives me the only true 'break' I get from them. She's also my best friend, and she and I like to go shopping together once the kids are in bed for the night. I will be visiting my Dad in the hospital while I'm there, though, (he's still very sick - he's been there 8 weeks now), so there will be a bit of stress surrounding that trip.

auroara78

December 27th, 2011, 11:59 AM

Thanks ladies for your advice...I know I threw a ton of questions out there!

Jen, have you fully started bleeding yet, or is it just spotting still? I know you tested on Christmas Day and it was neg, but wasn't that only 10 dpo???

Mocha, I think your attempts were fab. I really feel good for you this month! Jaime, I said in a different post, but I feel really serene about your attempt and just have this feeling that this could be your time for a BFP!!

The way I was right before midnight beginning Christmas Eve, when I tried to convince DH to have a go at it (and he said no), I was feeling very very anxious to have sex, etc, so I with all that said, I think my body was ramping up for a last chance before the egg dropped down. I really think my egg dropped down right around when Christmas Eve happened, thus rendering my attempt on Christmas Day itself pointless, but making my attempt on the 22nd very interesting. That would've been a 1.5 / 2 day cut off, which is promising.

I am promising myself that I will stop obessing and see what happens. You never know, it may still be a decent attempt. I did not use any represh, because while i did have some EWCM, it wasn't what it usually is, and it wasn't so much that it was alarming me, either.

I :awe: you all so much, you give me so much support, thank you!!!

TTC can be so confusing, esp. when you throw swaying into the mix! Thanks again for everything!

:bighug:

KraizyDaizy

December 27th, 2011, 01:48 PM

Out of the Blue,
Thanks so much for your encouragement. It really means so much to me. I really have absolutely noone to talk to about this swaying stuff. My DH is really no help with it other than his sample LOL! I am feeling more blue this month because I have had so many pregnancy announcements this Christmas, and I am simply jealous. I really am and feel like I will never have a daughter of my own. I think this is the hardest month swaying ever. My emotions are so uncontrollable this month. I am so hormonal, that I can hardly stand to be around myself!!!!!

Ladies,
Thanks so much from the bottom of my broken heart. You all have been wonderful and I am trying to respond to all the posts and intend to as soon as I have a moment. I don't know what I would do without you all. You all totally get me and I thank God for bringing me to this group after being on IG for so long. You all have been so nice and supportive, that I can only try to return the favor. God bless you all through the New Year with +HPTs, wealth and happiness!!!

amari

December 27th, 2011, 02:04 PM

hi, ladies! I have been in bed for the last 36 hours with an awful stomach bug, not sure if its from Mexico or not, but all my effort to regain weight those 7 days has left me with nada! I'm down to 93 and haven't even truly started the diet again as I have been sick! This LE is going to be difficult to do. I feel like I totally wasted last month and I had such a strong O too, it was so painful for so many days and this after not ovulating for so many months! I just hope my body does the same thing next month.

How is everyone? I feel like everyone feels a little down? It looks like many of us O'd on cristmas eve, including myself (although I didn't attempt, ha!). I wish there was a way for us to meet in person for a girl's night out!

Aurora-how are things with dh?

rainbowflower

December 27th, 2011, 02:07 PM

zanacal

December 27th, 2011, 02:22 PM

I hope it's ok for me to spread lots of babydust to you ladies, I'm sorry so many of you are having a rough time x

auroara78

December 27th, 2011, 02:27 PM

Zan, thx for the support!

Amari, it sucks to be unable to attempt :( I feel for you, darling, so sorry about the stomach bug!

KrazeyDaisy, big hugs hunny! I feel for u so much....that is long time to be TTC! I also agree it really helps to have support and encourgement....may we all be blessed with super awesome BFPs in 2012!!!

Mochagirl

December 27th, 2011, 04:02 PM

I wish there was a way for us to meet in person for a girl's night out!

Oh, that would be so much fun!

lemon2012

December 27th, 2011, 04:59 PM

WOW, I took a few days off gender dreaming and look at all the posts!!!!

I think I am 8 dpo with some symptoms but they are a lot like PMS.
I think next month I will just give up everything! It is just too stressful and I think I will suffer terrible GD. I might try to get back on the LE diet as best I can but with Christmas, my birthday (tomorrow) New Years Eve, the inlaws, and then we plan on going to Niagara Falls for a night......it is better to enjoy!
I am due to o the middle of January.
Same as OOTB!

OOTB I am so surprised a little girl did not sneak in there. I am sorry!

Mocha,..that is a long visit. I am off to inlaws in a few days! oh fun! They try too hard and they just watch us look after the kids. It is a lot of work!
I hope your dad is okay. I am glad your mom can help you out. I do miss that with my mom even though she wants to help it is too hard on her.

I am sorry for the sickness and the BFN and the missed months!

Just to make everyone feel better...or have a laugh,...I ate a wheel of brie last night! lol!
Oh, and some wine:)

Oh, and I liked everyone's recaps on attempts. It is funny that so few on trying now,,,we are all close to the new moon and our attempts.
I bd on cd -5, 0-4, 0-3, 0-2, and then twice on o day. It is hard to say exactly when I ovulated as my temp was high the entire time as I was sick. Also, I don't get a very noticeable temp difference. Am I the only one? I even got a new thermometer.

Tomorrow I turn another year older and another year away from being fertile. How depressing!!!
However, we are taking the kids to see a live theatre show so that is going to be fun!

Merry Christmas everyone!
LEMON

Mochagirl

December 27th, 2011, 05:29 PM

We've missed you, lemon! Have a great birthday tomorrow, and by all means enjoy yourself and eat what you want!

HopeandDreamG

December 27th, 2011, 08:24 PM

I wish there was a way for us to meet in person for a girl's night out!

I'm in!!!

pinkin2011

December 27th, 2011, 08:25 PM

HopeandDreamG

December 27th, 2011, 08:29 PM

Lemon~ Early Happy Birthday!!! Missed ya LOL...

Mocha~ I'm sure you can't wait to get home.... Think of this everytime your MIL is bothering you- that you maybe cooking a little pink bean!

Out of the Blue~ Sorry about the BFN. Did AF show (I may have missed the post)

Amari~ You still gonna plan for January (like me) and look into HT same time?

Hello everyone else....
I know 2012 will be better for all of us! xxxx

sallygal

December 27th, 2011, 08:34 PM

I am 4 dpo now, so woohoo new moon!! praying thats a mighty powerful moon, because I sure did fall off the wagon with my diet just when it started to matter :( /sigh we did at least get the cutoff right, so thats positive at least!

my ph is ridiculously high now though and I cant get it down... suggestions on a fix? or should i bother?

I sound just like you drowning in boys as also fell off the diet wagon night of O. I am 2 dpo and my PH has also gone up from eating a few wrong things. We DTD 0-12. Does anyone know how long fertilisation would take after ov if the spermies are in there waiting? Just thinking maybe since ov already happened then I haven't done any damage to my sway... wishful thinking anyway!!! AHHHH really hope for a bfp this month because really am so SICK of swaying, but thinking it prob didn't work anyway with only one attempt.

Well hope you all enjoyed family time over Christmas! x

Jamie86

December 27th, 2011, 10:27 PM

drowning in boys

December 28th, 2011, 12:04 AM

so how many attempts did we all get in?

how many attempts... hmm welp we went the FR route, my hubby flat out refused my suggestion of abstinence lol.. so we BD'd every day from AF to O-1... and with that DH released once in the morning, once in the evening and then 3rd time of the day was for baby making. He's got really good boy making spermies (since we have 3 already!!) so hopefully this helped knock down the numbers enough for a :pinksperm: to stand a chance!

drowning in boys

December 28th, 2011, 12:10 AM

Hey Girls I hope everyone had a great Christmas all i can say is THANK GOODNESS its over for another year! I didnt do too bad with my eating BUT i had more chocolate than i should of! Oh well was going to happen... My attempt is around the 9th of jan and I cant wait although I am trying not to expect anything to happen first month of trying. My d/h has been releasing twice a day for 4 days and once yesterday and once today I hope I am not getting him to release too much? I may tell him just once a day from now until maybe the 6th and then start releasing twice again , I want my attempt to happen once and on first opk if possible, So would like to have 2 releases within the 24 hrs before my attempt? How is everyone going ?? I hope we all get our bfp!!

may I ask how old your DH is? mine is 31 and we have 3 boys so hes obviously got good strong swimmers, (and when we conceived the boys we were BD'ing like twice a day recreationally lol) so we decided he would release twice and then the 3rd time of the day is inside for baby making... i know the older a man gets the lower his sperm count anyhow, so that strategy may lower it too much if hes an older guy. best of luck!!

pinkin2011

December 28th, 2011, 12:43 AM

My D/h Is 29 we only have one d/s and when we were trying for him we dtd every day to every second day.... This time I am getting him release everyday sometimes twice a day and for our attempt I will get him to release twice within 24 hrs and then the third release will be our attempt still within that 24 hrs.... I hope that by having one attempt will keep sperm count low I will do a JandD after.... When we concieved our ds we were dtd not just having him release so I would of been FULL of his swimmers ha ha ha

pinkin2011

December 28th, 2011, 12:45 AM

may I ask how old your DH is? mine is 31 and we have 3 boys so hes obviously got good strong swimmers, (and when we conceived the boys we were BD'ing like twice a day recreationally lol) so we decided he would release twice and then the 3rd time of the day is inside for baby making... i know the older a man gets the lower his sperm count anyhow, so that strategy may lower it too much if hes an older guy. best of luck!!

By the way my D/h will not abstain either... the most he could do is 5 days and that is just not enough

rainbowflower

December 28th, 2011, 05:13 AM

sallygal

December 28th, 2011, 05:33 AM

I was thinking the same thing rainbowflower... 3 times a day is a huge effort! What a good hubby!! I made mine abstain (think it ended up being 9 days). He was quite busy at work leading up to Christmas so would have been easier than 3 X a day.

zanacal

December 28th, 2011, 05:55 AM

3 times every day? Wow!!

My DH is 37 and when we conceived he released twice a day for around 10 days then we had one attempt using the 3rd release in 24 hours - and I did a Jump and Dump. When we conceived our boys it's likely he was releasing every day (we didn't DTD every day but he helps himself most mornings (apparently!)).

rainbowflower

December 28th, 2011, 05:58 AM

Zana - when you conceived did you feel any hungrier during your 2ww? I feel ravenous today! going to try and last until 11.30 before eating anything

zanacal

December 28th, 2011, 06:43 AM

I wish I could remember Rainbow - it's quite possible! FX!

Mochagirl

December 28th, 2011, 09:03 AM

rainbow - I'm starving too. Yesterday we drove past a McDonald's and I was salivating thinking about eating there....

rainbowflower

December 28th, 2011, 09:09 AM

lol Mocha, I just went grocery shopping and was eyeing up all the roast chickens... etc :)
I know that, whilst I fancy all these foods now, by the time I stop the diet and get to eat them they won't taste as good as I've been imagining/remembering

Mochagirl

December 28th, 2011, 09:20 AM

Well, if I don't get my BFP, I'm going to have my monthly cheat night when af arrives. It helps lessen the blow. I usually choose pizza...a lot of it :oops:.

rainbowflower

December 28th, 2011, 09:23 AM

nom nom nom!
when is AF due?

I don't know when to expect AF... given that my luteal phase has varied between 3 days and 9 days in the last 6 months. Hoping it's longer this cycle so we have a chance!

auroara78

December 28th, 2011, 11:05 AM

Well, I'm still not sure what's going on with my temps, but I feel the need to come clean about them...I don't temp very well at all, and well, there was one cycle that I temped the whole month really, really well and I never saw a huge thermal shift, so I thought maybe I didn't ovulate that month, but my period came right on time, it was a perfect 28 day cycle.

The next month I didn't bother temping at all, and this cycle I didn't temp well at all just took my temp the last three days to try to see a thermal shift....so now I'm wondering since I am so awful at temping and I've only ever temped one cycle in my life and did not see thermal shift then, I wonder if I just have really vague, small thermal shifts, where the temp has risen, but not by a lot?

Last night, DH and I went to bed together because my car is still being worked on and he's been getting up really early with me to take me to work in the AM. He said he was tired and my schedule "sucks"...hehe, then I asked him for sex (I dunno know why, it was kind of impulsive), and he grumbled and said, "We just HAD sex yesterday." I said, "No, that was on Sunday!" Then we had a playful argument and he said he's just not in the mood, and I told him he couldn't deny me my wifely rights!

He grumbled something else, rolled over away from me, and started snoring, then i started to fall asleep, then he rolled back over and tackled me! So, well, in case I haven't O'ed yet, I got another attempt in :)

Though I am leaning towards that I've already O'ed and just have low starting temps (which I do not know since I did not temp earlier this cycle,...I know, I know...) but just in case, I felt good about getting another attempt in, if my body geared up to O but didn't.

I did have that one neg OPK on Sat, CD12, which is usually a pos, but now I wonder if I used too dilated urine, and i never rechecked because I ran out of OPKs, tempted to go buy another pack, just to see what's going on, but the only fear I have is that the more I try to check things, the more obessive and upset I am getting. I'm probably not going to temp anymore until CD1 comes, just so that I can understand my temps better in a context of a full cycle, you know?

Jamie & Mocha, how are ya'll feeling now in your 2WW?

Lemon, glad to see you again! You never know...you got some good attempts in! Did you douse yourself in Represh?

Jen, did that nasty old AF ever show her face?

Drowninginboys, 3X a day!! that would literally KILL my DH! LOL, he thinks our pattern of having sex every 2-3 days is way too much SEX....maybe we ought switch hubs for a while! Hubby swap! hehe.

drowning in boys

December 28th, 2011, 12:02 PM

had a little pink tinged goo when i wiped after going potty this morning... AF shouldnt be around till the 7th... so hopefully this is a good sign? i am like 5 dpo now i think... man its been too long since my last kid i forgot how all this is supposed to work! lol

drowning in boys

December 28th, 2011, 12:13 PM

woah drowning - your DH must have some stamina to manage 3 times a day!!

perhaps when you conceived your boys BDing twice a day might have increased the pH down there and also you'd both have had high T levels as a result (or maybe the cause?)?

haha yeah some women have beef with getting their DH interested in DTD, my only complaint is he wont leave me alone (but i guess i can prolly deal with that one :wink: lol)

yeah i am sure it was jacking my pH up bad, I knew nothing of swaying and how all that would affect it so we just went about life as normal and thats what it got us lol... and we were HUGE Dr Pepper addicts and ate like crap so i know my blood sugar was omg out of whack, which i read just affects your pH and sways boy even harder... ive put myself into sugary drink rehab past few months and as long as i can have CL with lots of extra equal, i feel a little better lol...

drowning in boys

December 28th, 2011, 12:18 PM

Drowninginboys, 3X a day!! that would literally KILL my DH! LOL, he thinks our pattern of having sex every 2-3 days is way too much SEX....maybe we ought switch hubs for a while! Hubby swap! hehe.

HAHAHA only if you damn sure want another boy, because thats the specialty of the house around here! LOL man i should start studding him out to the ladies over in the Boy Swaying Threads ROFL

lemon2012

December 28th, 2011, 12:24 PM

Hey everyone.....Not really much to report!
Another year older though:(

I am 9 dpo and my temp went down a bit so I am expecting the usually on cd28!

Hope everyone is doing well!
Is anyone able to stay on the diet?
We had pasta last night so that was good but I also had a piece of chocolate ice cream cake, wine and then chips....ugh! I think I am gaining weight! I decided to relax and then the week of o do the diet. Not much I can do about it now!

GOOD JOB AUROARA!!!

Hmm, I think that is a good sign drowning.....it is too early for af spotting!!!!

Mochagirl

December 28th, 2011, 12:57 PM

Mochagirl

December 28th, 2011, 01:01 PM

Jamie & Mocha, how are ya'll feeling now in your 2WW?

I'm happy to be into the waiting process, but impatient as usual. I'm 4 dpo today, and my temp keeps continuing to rise. I don't feel any symptoms yet. My boobs were a bit sore yesterday, but I think I'm too early along for that to be pregnancy related.

Tonight mil is making pulled pork for supper. I'm just praying she has some nice buns to put it on and I can discreetly eat a bun I "forgot" to put the meat on. I'm going to be sooooo happy to be leaving tomorrow. The diet won't be great at my Mom's place, but she at least knows I'm eating vegetarian right now, so she won't be forcing meat on me. And at least if I decide to cheat a little there, it will be a good cheat - not something I don't really like anyway as has happened here.

Jamie86

December 28th, 2011, 06:04 PM

I have been super impatient too I tested at 8DPO and BFN (as can be expected) but I just tested at 3pm and 9DPO and got a faaaint positive so much so that I'm not sure if I should believe it although Ive never gotten anything like this within the time limit on FRER. I posted this in the 2WW thread but I wanted to share my pics and see if you have any opinions.

4 mins
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn114/JamieAnn1110/82d20d40.jpg

7 mins
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn114/JamieAnn1110/4e9ef3ca.jpg

amari

December 28th, 2011, 06:13 PM

I can def see it in the 4 min one but then not in the 7 min one! ? Hmmm!

Jamie86

December 28th, 2011, 06:21 PM

That's strange I see it better in the 7 min I guess time will tell but I'm really hopeful as I had a very similar experience with DS2.

Mochagirl

December 28th, 2011, 06:23 PM

I see it in both!!!!! :running:

I'm sooooo happy for you! I hope to follow you in a bit less than a week!

Do tell - what symptoms have you had??

Jamie86

December 28th, 2011, 06:30 PM

Thanks mocha! I really hope you follow too!

My symptoms have been very different from both DSs. I've been really irritable, headaches, tired, thirsty, frequent urination and more nausea than I ever experienced this soon past ovulation (didn't start at ALL till 6 weeks with both DSs). I've had so much going on I thought it must be all in my head because with both DSs I only had a lot of gas and fatigue at this point.

Jamie86

December 28th, 2011, 06:58 PM

I also wanted to add a couple months ago I got a reading from JennyRenny who said I would get a BFP in January from a cycle beginning in December and it would be a girl due in September with reference to the 13th and 17th day.

When I sent her the request were't sure when we were going to start trying. Well this cycle definitely began in December and if I tested like a normal person my BFP would be in January as AF isn't due until 1/2 and my EDD will be September 10th as of now. So she will be pretty darn close if this is it, so hopefully she will be right about it even the sex.

amari

December 28th, 2011, 07:42 PM

That is so exciting, Jaime! Congrats!!!

Jamie86

December 28th, 2011, 07:51 PM

Thanks! I hope this is really it I'm going to test again tomorrow (and probably every morning until I get a good strong line) I have 3 FRERs and 1 digi and I might get one more box. I know I'm crazy but I really want to see that line get darker and darker and with how light it is that might take a few days.

Jamie86

December 28th, 2011, 07:52 PM

I sent that too early but I wanted to add I really do feel like this is it!

amari

December 28th, 2011, 08:56 PM

Jamie-I was in Mexico so not online- what was your sway/attempt like??

Jamie86

December 28th, 2011, 09:56 PM

Jamie-I was in Mexico so not online- what was your sway/attempt like??

I did a light sway because I tend to get really stressed and I didn't want to get myself overly stressed worrying about too many components.

-Diet: I didn't do a really hardcore sway as far as diet because I have blood sugar issues but I tried to keep my calories low.
-Supplements: folic acid daily and baby aspirin every other day
-RePHresh: I used rephresh every 3 days from AF-O, including a whole tube a few hours before our O-1 attempt.
-Frequent release: We did frequent release from the end of AF through our attempt (CD 5-12). My O snuck up on me so I had planned on having attempts O-2, O-1 and O but we ending up having attempts O-3 (accidentally), O-1, and on O. And because DH missed a release altogether on O-2 he released once before our O-1 attempt.
-Sex: I did not have an orgasm during our O-1 and O attempts. DH finished in missionary position and attempted for shallow penetration anyway (which he never usually does definitely not when we conceived our DSs). We didn't do J&D either.

pinkin2011

December 28th, 2011, 11:24 PM

Good Luck Jamie how exciting and nerve racking at the same time!!! I love seeing those pictures of bfps makes me excited to see one of my own again!!!! I hope its even stronger in the morning! I see a line in both of your pics!

drowning in boys

December 29th, 2011, 01:55 AM

YAY Jamie!! I hope that line is glaring at you nice and dark in the mornin!! Very exciting ma'am :cheerteam:

and it might be TMI but... I just gotta say I hope I get preggo soon because I am sick of having to avoid the BIG O!! JUST SAYIN!! lol..

pinkin2011

December 29th, 2011, 02:24 AM

sallygal

December 29th, 2011, 03:46 AM

Just woundering with you girls that are having your d/h FR or even abstain, do you find everyday you stress about ( oh is he going to release today or is it going to be a hastle to ask him) or even with the guys that are abstaining do you think he better not touch that thing why I am out shopping today LOL ! every day is a struggle to me and when you think about it the men dont really have to do much do they??? I still have 10 days aahhh of him releasing with some days twice a day! He is not fussed but I am worried about it its on my mind all the time!

I know what you mean... we are abstaining and last month was really hard because he was super frisky! I didn't trust him to keep it in there!!! He assured me he was doing the right thing though. This month was easier because he was so busy at work he was too worn out to do anything anyway. I just gently remind him that he has a small part to play compared to what I am doing!! Sigh... hoping pg this time to stop all this swaying but not feeling confident.

sallygal

December 29th, 2011, 03:48 AM

Oh and try not to worry... don't want testosterone increasing!

pinkin2011

December 29th, 2011, 03:53 AM

Yeah that is true, I am trying not to stress about it, The swaying stuff is on my mind everyday... I have a very simple plan now tho... there is no way my d/h would abstain for any more than 5 days!!!!!! hes doing well as long as he keeps going!!!!!!

zanacal

December 29th, 2011, 05:02 AM

Congratulations Jamie, wonderful news :D I look forward to seeing those tests getting darker and darker!

Re the FR - I was happy to let DH worry about that side of things. He took his role very seriously and I knew he was doing it (he would come downstairs in the morning and proudly announce that he'd just had a w*%k!). Every time I did think to check he'd already done it lol!

pinkin2011

December 29th, 2011, 05:21 AM

ha ha , oh I wish my d/h would go ahead and just do it without me supervising!!!!!! He is quite happy to do it once a day he already knows he has to but a few times already this week and today its been twice in a day..... so every other day will be twice a day and i want as many times just before my attempt which should be in the evening on the 8th of jan. I am only having one attempt and using rephresh and a bit of acijel. last time i use rephresh will be the 7th in am and will use a bit of acijel about 8hrs before our attempt in the evening...

rainbowflower

December 29th, 2011, 05:34 AM

Jamie - congratulations! I see it even from my phone

Pinkin - yep... DH assures me he does do it though as he says he sees how tough this diet is for me. But he does have a lazy streak sometimes so its hard to fully believe him, and I did have to fuss him into doing that for himself a couple of times as he was tired

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Mochagirl

December 29th, 2011, 06:06 AM

AHHHHHH!!! So I plugged in today's temp, and my crosshairs changed and said I was only 3dpo today!!! That would mean I have a 3-day cut off! I panicked and played around with my temps until I got back to 5dpo - I did it by discarding a temp I wasn't completely sure about anyway and changing some CP stats I had second-guessed on the day I entered them. Yes, it was cheating, but I know my body and there's no way I O'd on CD17...CD16, maybe, but not CD17. My temps have been inconsistent because I'm in a strange place, in a different time zone, and sleeping in a cold room. I really hope I'm right and not FF!! :worry:

Mochagirl

December 29th, 2011, 06:09 AM

pinkin2011

December 29th, 2011, 06:15 AM

I will tell him to just do it once a day for a few days as i still have 10 more days of this until our first attempt . the closer we get the more times i will get him to do it.... cant wear him out too much or i may not even get a attempt!!

Jamie86

December 29th, 2011, 06:49 AM

Mocha, I would trust your body especially considering all you had going on this month that might have caused little changes in your chart that FF might interpret differently.

About doing frequent release I worried about it this month because DH is not big on taking care of it hisself so I was almost always involved. He is always really tired at night so I worried he would be too tired to but all except 2 nights he did and after missing 1 he did 2 releases the next day.

So the line is definitely not a lot darker this morning but I see it a little better. I took the test yesterday at 3pm after not going to the bathroom for almost 4 hours and I took this test at 5am after not going for 5 hours. So it's only been 14 hours since my last tests so I guess I can't expect it to suddenly be super dark. But here it is...
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn114/JamieAnn1110/b4e56b1f.jpg

rainbowflower

December 29th, 2011, 09:24 AM

The timezone bit would definitely alter temps unless you adjusted them to your regular timezones time... the cold room would have a lesser effect unless you temp orally and sleep with your mouth open. Even if room is colder your core temp should be stable - your body would just have to work harder to maintain it

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amari

December 29th, 2011, 09:26 AM

Jamie86

December 29th, 2011, 09:28 AM

Zan-my dh had a hard time doing the fr, I def had to be involved! You are lucky!

mocha-I found temping so hard a few years ago I gave up. Good luck. girlie!

jamie-still looks good to me, aren't you just 10dpo?

I agree I tired temping one cycle and it I gave up as well! And yes I am just 10DPO and just barely 10 because I Oed really late on the 19th (like around 11) and tested this morning at 5am.

Out of the Blue

December 29th, 2011, 10:35 AM

Hey, guys! I have TONS of catching up to do here b/c yesterday I had to watch my friend's 2 sons...It was a house full of CRAZY BOYS which I'm used to but the kid count doubled and I was on my toes all day! My learning curve definitely went up, lol.

I'm hoping that today is the first day of my period...I woke up to a bit more blood than I had been spotting so I marked it as light flow on FF so I could start a new cycle. I really hope it picks up and continues b/c I'm so ready to move on and purge 2011 from my system. BUH-BYE, 2011!!!

I've been doing a lot soul-searching lately as my diet and other things have been really weighing me down. I decided to revamp my diet and loosen things up a bit. Once I decided that, it was like a huge weight off my shoulders. I will still be following some basics like keeping cals/fat/protein/sodium low and will remain either vegetarian or vegan but I will add in a bit more nutrients. In addition, I am toying w/eating breakfast but having the last meal of the day between 3-4. I really need this change as I have been feeling utterly terrible physically and mentally and it's been a challenge to keep up w/my boys and really be present w/them mentally. I know this may swing me back to boy territory (if I was even in girl territory), but my diet has really been draining me emotionally. I need to feel better emotionally in order to be in a good place to concieve the child of my dreams and I feel that if I'm stressed out, I just won't be able to do that.

I hope all of you are doing well and I haven't a clue what's been going on w/all of you the past 1.5 days so I'll need to catch up! :HH: to all of you!!!

BTW, I did see that you got a BFP, Jamie and I just responded to your other 2 threads...I'm so excited for you but I kind of knew you'd get it b/c you felt it as well as your Mom. :cheer: Eat up, girl!!!

Out of the Blue

December 29th, 2011, 10:47 AM

I played around some more and if I get rid of that weird +OPK the day after O I'm still at 5dpo without discarding any temps. I guess it's that in combo with the little temp dip on 2dpo that are making it move my O date. PLEASE be wrong, FF :pray:

MJ, FF did that to me last time...Got crosshairs for the 13th and then FF moved them to the 15th...I think I actually O'd on the 14th. Trust yourself b/c FF can make mistakes. Regardless of when you O'd, I think your BFP is coming soon! YAY for 2012 and oooooodles of BFP for all of us very soon!!!

auroara78

December 29th, 2011, 11:12 AM

Mocha, I think you're right and FF is wrong, you seem to know your body very well! I am so hoping for a BFP for you!!!!

Jen, with those temps, I really felt that a BFP was coming...so sorry it wasn't, but I'm happy AF is trying to come for real, that would help just to start a new cycle fresh

rainbowflower, I sleep with my mouth open all the time (I don't breathe well from my nose) would that cause low temps if taken orally? I took my temp again today and it was 97.1, yesterday was 97.7, which was the highest it's been in the four days I've been temping. Since I didn't temp before ovulation, I don't know what they were, but these temps still seem way TOO LOW to be post ovul temps, so I am feeling way discouraged and just don't feel like it happened.

Truly do not believe I even O'ed now...though I had the symptoms of it so hard over the weekend, the O pain on the left side mostly, feeling extremely frisky, CM...the works...the CM took a few days to go down but now today it's pretty much dry / creamy, so I don't think my body is gearing up to O, I think it O'ed either earlier than I thought or the most likely explaination, it just didn't happen.

I am really down because I really had this vision of a baby girl born in September. Now when I look at all my possbile O days in the months ahead, it's all in very heavy boy time. O'ing in the full moon on boy signs...sigh, I know some of you don't believe in the moon phases, but I do because it was right for my kids and right for 3 out of 4 of my family's. I just feel like December was my shot at a girl, and the months coming up are all very boy heavy.

Out of the Blue

December 29th, 2011, 11:36 AM

Auroara, don't worry one little iota about the next O dates being in "boy territory" as I really don't think that stuff sways much (if at all!). I used to really believe that stuff a lot but in doing so, I've found it just stresses me out too much. I know Atomic doesn't put too much stock into it and she's definitely been around swaying for a long, long while. FWIW, I was soooo convinced that the Chineese calendar was right but then it gave me "boy" for my lost girl. I was such a stress-ball in my last pregnancy b/c so many signs were pointing to "boy".

I completely understand, too, about thinking this was your shot at a girl...I thought I had this attempt completely in the bag as I have been uber-fertile in the past & in addition, we had all that BD. It just felt like I was going to have a late Aug/early Sept. kid. I'm taking it as a sign (for me at least) to stop trying to control everything and let go a bit. You, however, still have EVERY CHANCE in the world to still get your Sept BFP...Maybe you didn't O but maybe you did! I know my words aren't helping much b/c not knowing if you O'ed or not is driving you crazy but you will never know for sure unless you get your BFP. Try to relax a bit if you can and we'll help you not go too crazy, okay! :HH:

KraizyDaizy

December 29th, 2011, 11:47 AM

There is a second line Jamie86! So happy for you!!! Now I have to research your sway LOL!!!

auroara78

December 29th, 2011, 12:04 PM

Jen, thanks so much for the words! They do mean so much to me, and help me begin to calm down!

I am being a major stress ball...I just need to chill out and give it a rest and be cool :cool:

drowning in boys

December 29th, 2011, 12:59 PM

I am being a major stress ball...I just need to chill out and give it a rest and be cool :cool:

Be cool hunny bunny! Be cool! (sorry watched pulp fiction last night lol) Just try to say a little prayer and let it ALL go!! Diet, temps, the moon phases, BD timing, EVERYTHING! If it is meant to be, God will find a way regardless of what FF or +OPK's say! (he found a way ergardless of what my BC said for my #1DS, so anythings possible! LOL) I also am desperately hoping for an early sept baby girl but I know it will all come when its time and not a moment before so I am just going about life as normal, eating all the goodies outta my christmas stocking and relaxing. well until i see a calendar pop up and then i just stress that its not the 7th yet lol.. but i have gone through the house and taken all the calendars off the wall so I can relax more :) Just try to stay chill and keep a positive outlook because you may very well be already knocked up and just dont know it yet!!

amari

December 29th, 2011, 08:45 PM

drowning-LOVE that movie and that is a good motto to have!

aurora-I feel the same exact way you do, exactly, so I feel your pain. I really don't know how I could have screwed up this month so badly and for me it was in my control, (I still may not of gotten prego, but I really messed up big time). Anyways, we should really start to be nicer to ourselves, myself included. Life has a funny way of happening despite our plans, doesn't it?

Ootb-hiya! how are you feeling about your new plan?

Jamie-any more tests?

Mochagirl

December 29th, 2011, 11:04 PM

I really hope it picks up and continues b/c I'm so ready to move on and purge 2011 from my system. BUH-BYE, 2011!!!

You and me both, Jen! 2012 is going to be an amazing year...I can feel it! I so hope af picks up for you and you can get to work planning your next attempt - I think all this bleeding was just your hormones re-balancing just like happened to me last month.

And I think you're making a wise decision about the diet. Honestly, I already eat more fruit and veggies than I probably should on the diet, but it helps keep me sane. I will definitely loosen up on the diet if I end up having to do this for much longer. I'm just so sick of denying myself everything I like!

Mochagirl

December 29th, 2011, 11:15 PM

Hey ladies - I'm finally at my mother's house after a very long 14 hours of travel. The flight itself was only 2 hours, but it was delayed by 4.5 hours, then we had to drive 3 hours to my Mom's house after we finally landed. I am completely exhausted. I still don't know what to think about FF's changes to my cycle this morning. All day today I was having niggly cramps, and my boobs are sore - which has never been either an af or BFP symptom for me. I keep wavering between thinking I've completely ruined my chances at a BFP this month and thinking I have a bean growing in there right now.

Honestly, I've never been very good about temping. I'm up and down so many times in the night with my kids, it's hard to get an accurate temp at the same time every day. I'm also bad and don't set an alarm to temp, but since one or the other of my kids is up sometime around 5:30 every day wanting something, I always temp then. Some days it might be 5, some days it might be 6 - or anything in between. I also sleep with my mouth open, so I know that's a factor. While visiting my ILs, my temp times were even more erratic than usual because my kids were sleeping terribly and waking up at strange times. I still often woke up around 5 every morning out of habit and tried to always temp then, but some mornings the kids went to bed so late that they slept in and I didn't temp until close to 7am.

Anyway, I chose to ignore FF's change since it would make me lose hope for a BFP, and I think we all need a little hope in our lives...

Out of the Blue

December 30th, 2011, 10:35 AM

I think all this bleeding was just your hormones re-balancing just like happened to me last month.
I think so too...I just didn't expect it b/c I had a nice, normal 1st cycle post-m/c so I thought it was smooth sailing. I'm so glad you reminded me of your last cycle b/c I really feel like it was the same thing...Thanks so much for giving me some peace of mind so I didn't keep googling dire possibilities...

Anyway, I chose to ignore FF's change since it would make me lose hope for a BFP, and I think we all need a little hope in our lives...

Yep...just write FF off b/c you know yourself/body better that FF, especially w/all the variables at play. Always, ALWAYS keep the hope alive...I'll always keep the hope alive for you as well! Your BFP is sooooooo very close, MJ!!!

Out of the Blue

December 30th, 2011, 10:35 AM

Amari, you’re going to hit it out of the ballpark this next time, I know it!!! You’re in a great place and your BFP is just around the corner…:cheer:

Mochagirl

December 30th, 2011, 10:38 AM

Today I discovered that if I change the FF settings to 'research' instead of 'advanced', my O-day moves back to where I want it. That makes me feel better. Today I have crazy cramps, I'm constipated (could be due to travel, though), and have TONS of yellow creamy cm. :fx:

auroara78

December 30th, 2011, 10:43 AM

Mocha, those signs do seem promising!!! There was a post on IG about twinning, and Tamara said flying in the 2WW can cause identical twins, something about the pressure of flying, so FX that you get a BFP...and maybe identical twin girls!!!!

Jen, did AF come full force yet? You are in my thoughts, hon, I can't wait to hear your sway plan coming up! FX a sticky pink bean soon for you!!

Amari, I agree, I think we are just too hard on ourselves! Don't beat yourself up about wasting one dose of Clomid, I'd just make sure you stick to the diet and other swaying factors, and make sure to get lots and lots of BD'ing in with Clomid. We all goof-up sometimes, but as long as we learn from it, that's what is important!

Jamie, did you retest this morning just to see those two beautiful lines again? :)

Lemon, are you around? are you testing yet? What's going on with you? I would drop the rephresh this next month if you really want to get preggers, and just stick to diet as best you can, and keep taking baby aspirin and folic acid.

I am doing better today, I have banned myself from my therometer until CD1 begins. I am now refusing to get upset about temps without the full cycle worth of them.

Out of the Blue

December 30th, 2011, 10:52 AM

I am doing better today, I have banned myself from my therometer until CD1 begins. I am now refusing to get upset about temps without the full cycle worth of them.

:agree: Do anything you can to keep yourself sane in the 2ww!

That goes for you, too, Lemon! Have you POAS???

Out of the Blue

December 30th, 2011, 10:57 AM

Thankfully, light AF from yesterday turned to HEAVY AF today...Whew! I've started up the Vitex, Pep & RL tea again. I'm pretty sure our plan for next time involves a lot of BD again (:p) but I'm still on the fence regarding RepHresh...:worry: I think my O date will be around the 15th of January (give or take a few days). Today is the second day in a row that I've eaten breakkie...I feel much better but I'm still working on skipping dinner. I had something light at 7 last night...I'm hoping to do better today so that I can have my last meal by 4pm if not earlier...:fingers:

Mochagirl

December 30th, 2011, 11:03 AM

Mocha, those signs do seem promising!!! There was a post on IG about twinning, and Tamara said flying in the 2WW can cause identical twins, something about the pressure of flying, so FX that you get a BFP...and maybe identical twin girls!!!!

Aaahhhhhhh! Don't say that! One set of twins is more than enough for me!!! :worry: With my luck it would be twin boys again anyway....

I totally agree with your thermometer ban, btw - I think we read waaaayyy too much into the 2WW temps. When I compare the my BFP cycles that are stored on FF, they're completely different from each other anyway.

Mochagirl

December 30th, 2011, 11:04 AM

Jen - I like your new diet plan. Personally, I find skipping breakfast easy (I've never been a big breakfast eater) and look forward to my dinner/night time snack too much to do it your way, but I think since you found skipping breakfast hard this is a really good choice for you. Low blood sugar is low blood sugar - I'm sure it makes no difference what time of day it is!

Jamie86

December 30th, 2011, 11:17 AM

I still need to catch up but I did see a question about if I tested again and I did. It's so hard not to overanalyze everything but I don't know if the line progressed enough from yesterday to today. I'm now 11DPO (but like I said yesterday really closer to 10 because I Oed really late at night like 11 on the 19th and I took this test at 4am). Here they are both pics are from 4-6 minutes.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn114/JamieAnn1110/fb25c522.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn114/JamieAnn1110/8dd86b05.jpg

And so you don't have to go back and find it here is yesterday's about 5am
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn114/JamieAnn1110/f207837d.jpg

KraizyDaizy

December 30th, 2011, 11:33 AM

So, I think I am feeling better about my AF. I did a little online shopping to get some needed supplies for this attempt. Bought OPK's, HPTS, CBE sticks, SYLK, and some Phion PH sticks from Amazon yesterday. I am on CD5 and thinking of DTD from end of AF through O+1 and or O+2 or whatever. Anyone used SYLK? Thinking of no supplements this month other than my regular meds to help with my extremely low hormone levels, folic acid and maybe baby aspirin. Not sure about the baby aspirin though because I have extreme anemia, so low blood, and I think aspirin can thin the blood? If I don't have much then why thin it lol. I just don't know what to take. Since my sickness sways girl, I tell ya, I really hate to take my meds LOL!!! Cause they sway boy LOL!!! Ladies help me with my attempt!!!

KraizyDaizy

December 30th, 2011, 11:35 AM

zanacal

December 30th, 2011, 12:33 PM

I think that's a fine line for 11dpo Jamie!

Mocha - I laughed at the comment about twins on your behalf and imagined your reaction! Your symptoms sound really positive, I'm so hopeful for you :D

Blue - It's a tricky one I agree. Personally if I were doing frequent BD I wouldn't drop the Rephresh (although did you use 1/2 tube every other day? Perhaps once every 3 days is better?) because all that BDing has the potential to raise pH a lot but, on the other hand, perhaps sperm count being so low in conjunction with the Rephresh was just too much. Would you and DH consider doing frequent release (not BDing) and having less attempts closer to O and using just one application of Rephresh in advance of those attempts? Perhaps slightly less frequent as he released from AF last time around - stick with 7-10 days in advance of your attempts?

KraizyDaisy - I don't know about your condition but if baby aspirin is not recommended for you because of it then definitely don't risk your health by taking it. Most baby girls are conceived without baby aspirin!!

Jamie86

December 30th, 2011, 01:05 PM

Thank you so much ladies for all the support! This forum is so much more supportive than many others I have been on and I really find myself invested in your journeys and hoping that everyone waiting for a BFP gets it soon!

Jamie86

December 30th, 2011, 01:35 PM

Ok so I'm truly an addict and couldn't resist I held my pee and took this at 12:30 so I guess it's official!

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn114/JamieAnn1110/6bc7fec3.jpg

Mochagirl

December 30th, 2011, 01:37 PM

Yay, Jamie! There's nothing better than seeing that word on a test! :cheerteam:

auroara78

December 30th, 2011, 02:24 PM

I agree! The two lines before were just BEAUTIFUL! But to see the word...that is AMAZING!!!

zanacal

December 30th, 2011, 03:44 PM

Love seeing it in words, yay!

amari

December 30th, 2011, 09:13 PM

Woot, Jaimie!

Mochagirl

December 31st, 2011, 09:20 AM

Hey ladies - I'm getting more and more anxious about my chart. Remember how FF keeps trying to change my O date to the 26th? Right now I have it set on 'research', which is the only way I can keep my O date on the 24th, when I think it happened. However, I started looking more closely and realised that having my O date there makes my coverline really low - way lower than usual - 36.3 (97.3). When I look back at my previous charts, my coverline is almost always 36.5 (97.7) or so, which is starting to make me suspect FF might be right after all.

The two factors at issue are the +OPK on the morning of the 25th, and that wonky low temp on the 26th. If I remove either of those, my O-date returns to the 24th, where I want it to be. Can anyone take a look and tell me what you think? Remember that my temps were all wonky anyway - taken at different times and after very restless sleep - because we were staying with my in-laws. My cervix was tightly closed by mid-day on the 25th and my cm was definitely creamy.

If I'm actually 5dpo today, as it suggests, then my coverline is much closer to my usual temp. However, it would mean I had a 3 day cut off and my chances of a BFP are close to nil :(. I'm keeping the chart on 'research' for the moment, simply because I'll get too depressed if I keep seeing 5dpo instead of 7dpo, but I'm starting to think I'm going to be out this month. I just wish I'd risked annoying dh to have him continue to dtd until I was *really* sure O had happened, but he was just DONE with the whole frequent BD thing by then....

rainbowflower

December 31st, 2011, 09:23 AM

Mocha - If I distrust the two temps that you're doubting, it could be the 26th... but as they stand it does look very much like it's the 24th
may I ask which of your two OPKs produced the darker line?

even with a 3 day cut off you're not necessarily out, remember loads of women do conceive with a cut off... your chances are lower, but not zero

you know your body, and your cervix wouldn't have been closed if you were still waiting to ovulate

I wouldn't worry about the coverline either, it's natural for that to vary between cycles

Mochagirl

December 31st, 2011, 09:33 AM

Thanks, rainbow - it's just that when I look back, my coverline has always been very consistent, and when it's set at the current lower setting, most of my pre-O temps are actually above it, which is weird.

I can't say for certainty which OPK was darker. All I had were ICs, and I was having to be very sneaky about taking them because we had no privacy there. When the one on the 25th was still wet, it definitely looked darker, but as it dried it looked about equal to the one on the 24th (though still maybe a little more 'solid' than the one on the 24th. I normally O within 12 hours or so of my first +OPK, and I usually stop taking them at that point. I am so angry with myself for letting myself run out of digis since I am crap at interpreting OPKs

As I said, my temps were all over the place time-wise - I can't even go back to tidy them up because sometimes I think I recorded them in one time zone, and sometimes in another. I often took my temp several times - once during every wakeup from 3am on or so, and it sometimes varied over the different times by nearly a whole degree! I couldn't set an alarm because we were sleeping in the same room as all our light sleeping kids, so I just had to take my temp when I woke up naturally.

amari

December 31st, 2011, 09:34 AM

Mocha-I can't do charts so I can't help you out in that regard. Does charting always stress you out or just this cycle? If it always does, is it something you are willing to drop? Could you just use opk's and fertility signs instead? I tried it years back and it was just too stressful for me. I don't temp or chart or anything. I use ff just to write down when I get my period or o'd and that's it. Obviously use what works for you, I just hate to see you so stressed out.

ootb-how is AF? How are you doing mentally?

KD-Even though you want to do everything to sway you need to take care of your health. Can you do crystal light instead of baby aspirin for ph? We have tried sylk and it stung for me when we used it, but others seem to love it! Try it out, the website has sales, just buy a small bottle and try it when you aren't attempting maybe? That's what I did. After we bought it we decided we we weren't going to use it because I am taking clomid so it was besides the point!

Happy New Year everyone!! Anyone going out tonight? We are going to a long dinner party with tons of food and drinking. There will be no way to keep the blood sugar down. I am bringing veggies with hummus and dip made with light sour cream, and my pasta with sauteed leeks, and vodka with diet cherry 7-up to drink. But it will be on going consumption, so even though those are all good foods, the blood sugar will be staying up which sucks. Then of course there is dessert. Anyone else??

Mochagirl

December 31st, 2011, 09:44 AM

amari - charting doesn't normally stress me out. I usually find it very comforting to have something scientific to back up what I notice with my body. It was just because I was spending a week in a strange place in a different time zone and sleeping in a room with all 3 of my kids that made it stressful. I usually have a very good grasp of what's going on with my body, and FF and I always agree for the most part - that's what's making me panic this time. :worry:

zanacal

December 31st, 2011, 12:18 PM

I don't do charts Mocha so I can't help - but that aside your symptoms are really positive and you have a great chance based on those. {hugs}

DoulaMama

December 31st, 2011, 12:39 PM

Just reading through and had to share my chart from my BFP, for you Mocha~ It's all over the place but similar in some respects. Keep the hope alive! This could totally be your month!!

My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/35e7fd/)

Mochagirl

December 31st, 2011, 01:53 PM

Awww...thanks Z & DM :HH:. I haven't completely lost hope, but I'm definitely not counting on that BFP. I just think at my age (37) and with the FR and antihistamines, a 3 day cut off probably wouldn't do the job. The month I DID get my BFP we dtd right on O day and hadn't done real FR. I can always hope for a New Year's miracle, though....:pray:

HopeandDreamG

December 31st, 2011, 01:54 PM

Happy New Year Everyone...

Mocha~ even if you end up with a three day cutoff you still have a good chance. I think its easy for temps to be off when things are different-like being at your in-laws. I'm still getting better from my crohns flare my temps are all over the place. also- If you push dh too hard he may give up on the swaying all together- its a delicate balance IMO!

Had plans to go out tonight but I'm really still not feeling great. Dh and I are gonna hang here have our own little party with the boys! Really ready to go into 2012 and leave 2011 behind....May 2012 bring us all BFP's

Mochagirl

December 31st, 2011, 01:57 PM

May 2012 bring us all BFP's

DEFINITELY!!! :agree:

Mochagirl

December 31st, 2011, 01:58 PM

And yes, I agree about the dangers of pushing dh too hard. Although I think he feels a little guilty since I told him how I wish we'd dtd on O night but he seemed so unreceptive I didn't ask. He even asked me the other day whether he should be eating a special diet too! There's no way he'd actually follow it, but at least he's not making fun of the whole thing like he used to!

zanacal

December 31st, 2011, 05:10 PM

HopeandDreamG - I hope you're feeling better soon. You're in the UK aren't you? Did you ever watch that programme called something like 'Food Hospital'? There was a girl on there with Crohns and they treated her flair up by having her drink only special juices (no idea what was in them!) until the worst had passed and then they introduced other foods a little at a time until she was better. I've no idea whether any of that would be helpful to you or not, I was just reminded of that episode!

HopeandDreamG

December 31st, 2011, 06:45 PM

Thanks zanacal. I'm actually in the US. In NY. Chat with the smog ladies because I was on PL with them. Found this site when PL closed and came along here. Maybe I can find the episode on line. I'm so upset was supposed to be titrating down
Starting tomorrow but started getting sick again Thursday night :(. I'm wondering if I can get off meds in time for attempt maybe this sickness will help with my sway!

zanacal

December 31st, 2011, 07:00 PM

I don't know if you'll be able to watch it outside of the UK but here it is:

Food Hospital - Episode 3 (http://foodhospital.channel4.com/episodes/series-1/episode-3/)

The girl's name is Laura.

auroara78

December 31st, 2011, 07:01 PM

Mocha, I still got a good feeling for you! FX a BFP soon!!! How early will begin to test?

Happy New Year's my lovely ladies, and I really hope 2012 is our year of the BFPs!! Preferably PINK!!!!!

HopeandDreamG

December 31st, 2011, 07:28 PM

I don't know if you'll be able to watch it outside of the UK but here it is:

Food Hospital - Episode 3 (http://foodhospital.channel4.com/episodes/series-1/episode-3/)

The girl's name is Laura.

It worked!!!! Thank you so much. Can't even tell you how cool I think this is- the video and chatting with you getting the info from thousands of miles away! I probably sound like an old lady- its just that I'm a pretty private person- Before I had a desire to have a baby girl I NEVER posted EVER on a site. Who knew- I'm loving talking to everyone here and now this getting info from the UK on my crohns. So cool- Thanks so much! (I'm not really lame- just sound that way right now LOL)

lemon2012

December 31st, 2011, 07:45 PM

Hi girls!
Just back from the inlaws!

MOCHA..when are you testing? I kept thinking I might "see you" on the highway! lol

I have creamy cm, cramping, sore boobs,...two days to af. I am cd 12 and nervous!

I did use rephresh but not that much compared to other people...so I think it would not be the reason.
However, we dtd twice on o day....seriously, can I still have hope for a girl?
Our bd was 0-5, release, 0-4, release, 0-3 (am), release, release, 0-2, release, o twice.
ANY COMMENTS?

Hope...I am glad you are getting advice. You are not lame!!!!

CONGRATS JAMIE!!!

I think it was auroara with the NY eating plan....I have indulged and it won't stop! I better be pg...lol.
Next month we will just try to get pregnant and hope I guess.
I will try to sway but maybe less hardcore. I will start the diet soon but last night steak and potatoes! The inlaws!!!

HAPPY NEW YEARS!!!

HopeandDreamG

December 31st, 2011, 08:13 PM

Lemon~ Hi! how was the in-laws? Do you mean you are 12dpo? Did u test...maybe theres a BFP coming??

Happy New Year!

Mochagirl

December 31st, 2011, 08:14 PM

Hey lemon - glad to see you back! I'm all the way over in Kingston right now, so we didn't pass you on the highway this time ;). I *might* test tomorrow morning, but I'll only be 8dpo...and that's only if I'm right on my O date and not FF, so I may decide not to waste my test. I just keep thinking how nice it would be to have a big proteiny New Year's dinner guilt-free. I'll cheat regardless, but at least I wouldn't have to feel guilty about it if I had a BFP. I do know now that I'll test Monday morning for sure, since I'll be 9dpo and that's when I got my last BFP. I'm not all that hopeful for this month anymore, though....

Mochagirl

December 31st, 2011, 08:22 PM

Oh yeah, and HAPPY NEW YEAR, everyone!!!!:celebrate:

rainbowflower

January 1st, 2012, 09:11 AM

lemon - I don't think twice on OV day is bad at all if you used the RepHresh

Mocha that baby must have implanted really early for a BFP at 9dpo! hope you get another BFP if you do decide to test early

Mochagirl

January 1st, 2012, 09:24 AM

rainbow - I got my BFP at 8dpo with my twins! Today I'm 8dpo, but I'm going to hold off testing until at least tomorrow. My temp keeps going up, but I really wish I could see an implantation dip in there somewhere - I've always gotten them with my other pregnancies. With my last pregnancy my implantation dip was at 5dpo, which is probably why I got my BFP so early.

rainbowflower

January 1st, 2012, 09:26 AM

crazy! most pregnancies don't even implant until 7-8dpo! you must have a really welcoming uterus lining lol

Mochagirl

January 1st, 2012, 09:31 AM

If you look on my chart homepage and scroll down to the Aug 28, 2011 chart you'll see that distinct implantation dip at 5dpo. I've been spoiled by early BFPs in the past, though with ds3 I didn't get my BFP until 11dpo.

rainbowflower

January 1st, 2012, 09:42 AM

oh yeah I see that!

zanacal

January 1st, 2012, 10:07 AM

Here's the January thread:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/7332-ttc-girl-january-2012-a.html

amari

January 1st, 2012, 10:18 AM

Happy 2012!!

Sorry you are dealing with that, Lemon. My dh's cousins have it and I know it is a tough thing to deal with. Hope you start to feel better. You def have hope for a girl!

I agree, rainbow, those are some early bfps! You are lucky, Mocha!! so you're holding out on testing??

Even though I just started back full force on the diet after being mostly off for 7 days, I had the worst night. I did the diet all day, then had pasta, cheese and crackers, vokda drinks, about 2 brownies, 2 cookies, 4 chocolate candies a mini canolie! Yikes! I think I have the weirdest metabolism, not that I was much bigger before, but now it seems to be even quicker, I thought for sure that would have upped my weight a bit but, no this morning 93. While I ate fattening stuff and kept my blood sugar up for like 7 hours at least it didn't seem to make me gain and it had no nutritional value at all! I am in it now, no more cheat days, please ladies help me. I did so well last month until we bailed. I need to commit.