TTC Girl- April 2012

[PeonyPrincess]

KD, sorry the nurse didn't call - how frustrating! I think you O CD14 or even CD15. My fingers are crossed for you. And I agree, not at all too old. Although some days we probably feel it!

[KraizyDaizy]

Nurse just called and my progesterone is 26.5. I am disappointed because it is lower than the last two months which were 38 and 28. I am just discouraged. It's again not my month! My temps are in the high range though, so who knows. They do 21-day progesterone to be a week after O right? so maybe my O was off and my progesterone was actually higher 7 days after? I know 26.5 is good and shows I Oed, but I just wanted it to be so much higher. Anyways your thoughts on progesterone are much appreciated.

Oh and which temp would you use 98.63 at 3am or 98.33 at 6am? I had to get up to go to the potty, so I took two temps. Normally I always use the first temp, but normally it is lower than the 2nd one, but in this case the 2nd is lower? So not sure which one to use.

[HopeandDreamG]

Kraisy- I think your progesterone is ok. You still can be preggo don't count yourself out yet. Nuthinbutpink told me that I wanted above 20 this past bfp. Either temp would work its not really much of a difference.

Lala- glad you added an attempt.

I think I'm skipping April and I have been tearing my hair out over the decision. My doctor wanted me to skip for my lining. He had prescription for clomid for me but it's meant for may. My thought is how do I attempt when I have a great tool to sway and not use it? I was afraid that I used it against his advice and get a bfn and need it for may. Then what.
I've literally made myself sick. I'm also worried about cheating in the two week wait. I hate skipping the prime month but there's no way to no which way is better. Now I am cd 6 and I guess it's too late anyway. I'm not attempting without the clomid that doesn't make sense. I just don't know. My attempt will be 5 weeks from now I should just focus on other stuff eat nothing and relax! Sorry for the rambling I'm soooooo upset

[KraizyDaizy]

Hope,
Thanks for the encouragement. I can see how hard it is that you don't want to waste the Clomid on April, but remember it will stay in your system for 6 weeks, so I would also keep that in mind. I see the pros and cons to skipping or going for it in April and I so understand. praying for you...

[mydream]

Kraisy-I wouldn't count yourself out just yet..

Hope- I pray that a decision comes easily to you.

Lala- Good Luck!!

Amari- hope you are feeling well.


As for me...holding out to POAS...

[auroara78]

Go become a :poas: my dream!

[amari]

My dream-when will you do it? Tomorrow?

Kd- I don't know anything about progesterone. Fx crossed for you...

Hope- tough call. Would you o on your own? When I had to take a month of I was planning in attempting w/o Clomid I'd I o'd ont own. I tracked and never o'd, so I had no option. Could you take opks, have dh release then make a decision if you get a +opk?

[auroara78]

God, I am so pacey today and ready to leave work.....I am going to leave early anyway because the library is so slow and we don't hardly have any students, then the idea of leaving even earlier yet crept in my head but I dont want to get in trouble...sigh....just wannt to start my weekend already!

this week has been nothing but trouble cuz father in law had a stroke on tues. he is doing much better now and got released today so I am hoping that things go back to normal now and i can have a decent weekend. (God I know that sounds so selifsh and terrible, but it's been just a crazy week....I will say sorry in advance!)

on the other hand, i really want to repaint our railing to our front door before DS2 's bday party (April 28th, his bady is the next day, the 29th) but DH is prob gonna not want to do any projects this weekend since he's been livin at the hopsital almost. Anyone else ever taken off a project like sanding then priming and repainting their railing while preggo? LOL

[mydream]

Now I'm thinking Sunday???!!!

[pinkin2011]

Peony, Yes same for me 6-8 weeks was just horrible i think it was actually worse then with ds tho i had it until 13 weeks with him.. If i was still as bad as i was i think i would need something for it

[HopeandDreamG]

Auroara~ sounds stressful. My dh wouldn't want to do the railing either after spending all his time in a hopital. Just remember no one is going to even notice the railing like you will!

Amari~ Loving the ticker..jealous!

Mydream~ So did you test this am???

I have come to terms with my decision to wait until May. My attempt will be five weeks from yesterday. I just couldn't get over the idea that I had several cheats in the 2ww (i just knew I was preg) and to not use clomid when I have it in my arsenal just doesn't make sense to me. I did all this work, and to not wait 3 more weeks (from aprils attempt if I made one) just doesn't make sense. Also this way I will have the support of my doctor (ultrasound), an injection (so no doubt when O is, no stress), exactly when to start progesterone support etc. I figured all this 5 more weeks on diet, clomid, injection, ultrasound etc. outweighed the possible sway factor of a chemical. Maybe it even sways the next cycle too. Who knows!

Kraisy~ How are you?

[amari]

Hope-sounds like you really thought it out and came to a great conclusion! Great plan!

[Mochagirl]

Hope-sounds like you really thought it out and came to a great conclusion! Great plan!

I agree! You definitely want to go into this with no regrets, so this sounds like the best decision for you.

[KraizyDaizy]

Temp is down this am, so I am feeling like I am out again. AF is due in a couple of days, so I won't even think about testing until I am late. So depressing and heart broken, I just hate it!

[mydream]

ugh I tested again this AM and it was negative...now I just don't know anymore...

[KraizyDaizy]

ugh I tested again this AM and it was negative...now I just don't know anymore...

did you use the same test? was your urine really concentrated? be optimistic, you at least got a positive yesterday and it could still be early. I am praying and thinking of you today.

[mydream]

ok so I just retested with FRER (same test- new box though).held my pee till noon and didn't drink anything...its still a faint positive like I got yesterday..
I don't know what to think..I think I am going to call dr. and get blood done tomorrow.

[mydream]

Kraizy - thank you
I am sorry you are feeling down hun...sending you hugs and tons of positive thoughts!!!

[KraizyDaizy]

I just came to the realization that temping is about as bad as testing early for me. I just cannot get a break!!! Grrrh! Just had to scream a little LOL!!!

[mydream]

Kraizy- Go ahead girl...scrrream!!! I'm right there with you~

[KraizyDaizy]

Thanks so much mydream. It means so much to me.

Two years and no baby. Millions of HPTs, OPKs, jellies, CB monitor, cups, ferning scope, memberships, diets, you name it, it seems I have done it all and still I cannot get this right. Maybe it is my DH's counts, but even then I don't know what they will do about it. My mind has been afraid of the testing (I picked up the kit at my 21-day blood work), cause if it is low, then they will try to help him up it, and if it is upped then we have more chance of a boy right? I am just so confused and disappointed all at the same time.

[Mochagirl]

:hugs: KD

[HopeandDreamG]

Kraizy- Go ahead girl...scrrream!!! I'm right there with you~

Me toooooooo ladies!!!!

[amari]

Sorry KD, Hope that you are both feeling so frustrated. :hug2:

[PeonyPrincess]

I just wish everyones bodies would start co-operating and do exactly as you want! I am on the other side of the world and so frustrated for you KD and Hope. The way I see it KD is that even if DHs count was low and needed to be improved, at least you would know one way or the other. After all, you would have at least a 50% shot at a girl even if no swaying was involved. But we need you pg first! For me, not knowing things is like torture.

Hope, I was reading your posts a couple of pages back and thinking the best thing to do would be to wait til May. So good on you, it sounds perfect to me.

Mydream, that has to be a BFP. Hope you get a nice dark line soon to reassure you.

[KraizyDaizy]

Thanks everyone! I appreciate room to vent and scream.

This evening I had a little brownish discharge, and a few lower abdominal pains after I got off work, so more than likely AF is on her way. Maybe even earlier.

[auroara78]

Ah KD :hug2: I feel so much for you!!!

mydream, did you test this am...is it darker or you gonna wait till tomororw? Prob best to wait 2-3 days to give time for hcg to go up so the test can get darker. Did you call your DR?

Hope, I agree with Peony, I think May does sound like a fab month to TTC.

Sorry if I forgot any one else's news or posts, I read yesterday but didn't post and now I've forgotten what I've read!

I have my ultrasound scheduled on Friday so fingers crossed they're going to say "it's a girl!" :pray:

[HopeandDreamG]

I just wish everyones bodies would start co-operating and do exactly as you want! I am on the other side of the world and so frustrated for you KD and Hope. The way I see it KD is that even if DHs count was low and needed to be improved, at least you would know one way or the other. After all, you would have at least a 50% shot at a girl even if no swaying was involved. But we need you pg first! For me, not knowing things is like torture.

Hope, I was reading your posts a couple of pages back and thinking the best thing to do would be to wait til May. So good on you, it sounds perfect to me.

Mydream, that has to be a BFP. Hope you get a nice dark line soon to reassure you.

Thank you peony! I'm glad I'm waiting. My belly has been hurting a bit and I am praying my crohns stays away. I will have a few more weeks to feel better. at the same time I'm embarrassed to admit I'm feeling I don't want to be left behind!! So stupid :( I can't believe I'm even gonna hit the post thread button..

[HopeandDreamG]

Ah KD :hug2: I feel so much for you!!!

mydream, did you test this am...is it darker or you gonna wait till tomororw? Prob best to wait 2-3 days to give time for hcg to go up so the test can get darker. Did you call your DR?

Hope, I agree with Peony, I think May does sound like a fab month to TTC.

Sorry if I forgot any one else's news or posts, I read yesterday but didn't post and now I've forgotten what I've read!

I have my ultrasound scheduled on Friday so fingers crossed they're going to say "it's a girl!" :pray:

Omg Friday. I just saw that after my last post. OMG OMG!!! Nervouuuuuusssssss :)

[KraizyDaizy]

Auroara, of course it's a girl!!! Can't wait for the confirmation on Friday!!!!

[auroara78]

Oh thanks KD! :heart:

Yeah I dont know why, but right now I am feeling certain that I will hear girl on Friday, and I have this little voice in my warning me to not be so sure of that outcome, but I can't help it. I do feel very strongly it's a girl. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I can't fight this deep gut feeling, and I'm not even going to try anymore. These are my last few days of not knowing and I'm going to try to enjoy them with positive thoughts :)

[KraizyDaizy]

I think it is great that you have feeling about your pink dream coming true Friday. I would suggest have a big Mountain Dew beforehand LOL!! Want to make sure she shows her three lines perfectly. I have had one of my friends who is just devastated that the baby would not cooperate and she still does not know if it is a girl or not which is what she is wanting.

[auroara78]

I'm actually somewhat caffiene intolerant...it would give me the jitters and make me really sick! Anything else that could get the baby moving and excited? Chocolate, juice you think? Mtn dew or any coke products or coffee are too much for me.

[HopeandDreamG]

Kraisy- is AF still away? Hoping for you.

[amari]

kd-how's it going today, hope af stays away..

hope-don't feel bad saying anything on here, that's what we are here for!

aurora-i can't believe it is this week already! can't wait to hear!

[HappyMedium]

aurora I am the same way..I steer clear of caffiene for the most part so I am hoping it helps my girl sway. I am new here and just reading through. There is so much to reply to I will forget!!! So much to know!!!

[HappyMedium]

Hi everyone...I would love to join you...We are ttc a girl after 4 boys...DH needed some convincing but we are a go. I am eating acidic foods, but not a specific diet as I love food..I am currently losing weight on Atkins and have added Organic milk and yogurt to the mix along with calcium and magnesium. Doing Zumba for cardio, no green tea (which I love), no potatos, tomatos or red meat..all of which I survive on, no wonder I have all boys. Doing a lime douche 30 minutes before with a pH of 3 and then finger tips of straight lime afterwards to keep pH down. Cut off of 3 days and O+ 12. This sure has taken some figuring.

[KraizyDaizy]

AF is not here yet, but my temp is lower today, so I am thinking AF is coming soon. Thanks everyone for thinking of me. I am driving myself crazy emotionally trying to wrap my head around the fact that I am not pregnant once again this month.

[Mochagirl]

auroara - I just made sure to eat a big breakfast with juice before my scan. I also drank copious amounts of water in the days leading up to the scan because I heard that helps you get a good one. I'm soooooo stalking you!

[KraizyDaizy]

So my temp went up a little this morning, so it gave me hope and I tested BFN. AF is not here yet and with my temp going up, I am guessing that it the only reason I am keeping it together this morning, thinking maybe it's just too early, but in the back of my head FRER are so sensitive it really should be showing by now, so that is my start to the morning, how about yours?

Bless you all throughout your day, my the Lord watch over you and yours through all that you do, AMEN!

[nks798]

Kraizy, I have several friends that didn't get a + until after 14 dpo. one of my friends didn't get one until 19 dpo.. so it's still not over! praying for you today lady!

[KraizyDaizy]

Kraizy, I have several friends that didn't get a + until after 14 dpo. one of my friends didn't get one until 19 dpo.. so it's still not over! praying for you today lady!

thanks so much nks, I am hoping and trying to be as optimistic as I can. I appreciate your info on your friends, it really helps me think, maybe just maybe...

[amari]

KD-how many dpo are you now? I am so pulling for you!

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all how are we ive been away so havent been on, ?

[KraizyDaizy]

KD-how many dpo are you now? I am so pulling for you!

According to FF I am 14 days, but it may be more like 13.

[HopeandDreamG]

Kraisy~ temps looking pretty good. They never dropped below 98 with is great.

Happymedium~ Welcome. Sounds like you have an IG sway all planned. Many on the site do things a bit different, but all are welcome!! No matter what you may choose..GOOD LUCK!! When are you planning on your first attempt?

[KraizyDaizy]

Hope, not below, but close. I am as nervous as can be. I am feeling like my AF is coming. A little discomfort is going on, se we will see. Thanks for the encouragement!

[auroara78]

When is AF due exactly? I still think the temps staying up is a good sign. :pray: for KD!!!!

And welcome Happy Medium!! I did a combo of some IG ideas with LE ideas and we'll see what the mish mash produced when I find out on Friday, lol.

[HopeandDreamG]

Kraisy~ I literally felt I was getting AF totally thought it was over with DS1 and the symptoms stopped and BAM I was preg!!

auroara~ 2 days!!! Ahhhhh, can't wait

[KraizyDaizy]

When is AF due exactly? I still think the temps staying up is a good sign. :pray: for KD!!!!

Well I think am normally 28 days so after today, I guess I would be late? FF says my average cycle length is 29, shortest is 20 and longest is 33, so I am not for sure really.

[KraizyDaizy]

Kraisy~ I literally felt I was getting AF totally thought it was over with DS1 and the symptoms stopped and BAM I was preg!!

I had major cramping with DS1 and thought AF was coming, but not had much cramping at all. I want symptoms so that they can stop LOL!!!

[amari]

I had cramping this time too, I thought it was from the progesterone I was taking b/c I've ever used if before, I guess it was actually implantation. FX

[KraizyDaizy]

Amari,
Are you or were you taking a pill or cream for you progesterone?

[HopeandDreamG]

Kraisy~ did you test this am?

[KraizyDaizy]

Kraisy~ did you test this am?

No out of tests. That was my last FRER yesterday. I am just waiting for AF to get here. I am sure I am just late or that taking the Clomid days 3-7 instead of 5-9 has changed my cycle a bit. I have spent so much on HPTs only to be disappointed, I am to the point of just finding out if I am ever really late. If my longest cycle on FF is 33, then I would have a ways to go, if it's average of 29, then I guess tomorrow I would be officially late?

[mydream]

KD- so praying for you hun



Just an update- I had a chemical. AF is here in fullllll force :(
I am doing ok..for the moment. Thanks for all you support. I am having immune testing done, in fact just had the bloods drawn. Although my HT and this chemical may be unrelated, I just need to know at this point. I spoke with my RE and he agrees. My bloodwork will come back in about 10 days.
I am totally going to try again this month. He said it was fine to. I just don't have time to waste..the clock is ticking. Good thing I didn't stop the diet...well, I cheated one day (the day I got a BFP I ate egg and cheese on a roll- yum!). I am going to up my protien, fruits and veggies this cycle, cut back on the carbs and continue to PRAY!

[coocoobananas]

KD hoping af never comes!

[HopeandDreamG]

KD- so praying for you hun



Just an update- I had a chemical. AF is here in fullllll force :(
I am doing ok..for the moment. Thanks for all you support. I am having immune testing done, in fact just had the bloods drawn. Although my HT and this chemical may be unrelated, I just need to know at this point. I spoke with my RE and he agrees. My bloodwork will come back in about 10 days.
I am totally going to try again this month. He said it was fine to. I just don't have time to waste..the clock is ticking. Good thing I didn't stop the diet...well, I cheated one day (the day I got a BFP I ate egg and cheese on a roll- yum!). I am going to up my protien, fruits and veggies this cycle, cut back on the carbs and continue to PRAY!

I replied on the other thread I am so sorry. I'll be interested to hear what your blood work says and what it all means. Glad you will try again this month. I was so twisted about deciding partly because I cheated in the 2 week wait. So glad you didn't that was a huge lesson for me. I thought I was safe! Anyway good for you another attempt is just two weeks away!

[amari]

My dream-I posted in another thread but I am really sorry. Glad you can try again so soon! Maybe that blood work will be a moot point.

KD- I was/am taking progesterone cream that you insert once a day called Crinone. My OB doesn't really believe it does anything, but I have a short lutesl phase and asked for it anyway.

[KraizyDaizy]

Amari,
I am glad you got the progesterone even if you doc does not believe in it. I believe in it 100% although I had to take the jelly like troches that you put under your tongue and they have to dissolve for the first 12 weeks of my first two pregnancies.

Still no AF and I keep wondering if I am willing it not to come or something. My kraizy brain is playing tricks on me LOL!

[ILindGurl]

MyDream, I am so sorry. It's so hard when we get so close, but I have to believe there is a reason for everything. My doctor said it was a great sign that egg & sperm are meeting....and if we are patient it should happen with some time. Plus, conception after a chemical is suppose to sway pink :) I'm glad you are going to keep trying and hope it will work this next cycle for you!! Also, good that you are doing the bloodwork!! I'm thinking of you and hope you are ok...

Meanwhile...I have ZERO symptoms this month....so just waiting for AF to arrive next week. Another cycle bites the dust! ARGH!

[KraizyDaizy]

ILindGurl, some have no symptoms at all from what I have read, so don't count yourself out until AF shows. What cd and dpo are you? when do you expect not to get your AF?

[ILindGurl]

thanks, kraizydaizy...I know because I didn't have any symptoms with DS1 (then again, I never thought I'd get pregnant so fast so I wasn't really paying attention), with #2 I didn't have any either except I vaguely remember maybe thinking my nipples looked darker (sorry for TMI, LOL). But with my chemicals, I knew I was pregnant...vivid dreams, nausea, metallic taste in my mouth, very tired and fell asleep watching tv a few nights early...I just felt it for some weird reason. This month, nothing. Not even a twinge, LOL. So, it's a bust. Same thing happened in Feb, the month following my chemical pregnancy in January. I guess you're right, and you never know...but my gut says nothing happened. I didn't do any testing this month bec I just wanted to relax and enjoy, so just based on CM I would predict I am 6dpo, maybe 7dpo. FF predicts April 26th and 27th for AF to arrive. I have stopped swaying, but I will say this if we did conceive (which I really really doubt based on no symptoms at all) then it's all boy...I had 9 days (NINE!) with EWCM...crazy! LOL.

[sweetsister]

Hi ladies ive been taking a break from the internet and temping just trying to relax and hope it helps i think im 6 or 7 dpo but could be wrong as i only used opk this time,i took a frer this morning and i could see as it was changing a white line where the positive would be,it sounds wierd maybe thats the first time i actually watched it changing? then now i cant really see anything ,it plays tricks on you though in the right light i can see sort of something then it goes away? Im reading into nothing probably..


And i see congratulations:celebrate::running::cheer: AMARI !!!sOOO HAPPY FOR YOU, did you use the preseed in the end and guaffenisen or just one?
I think if this month doesnt work for me im stopping the clomid it will be my third time and the last time i was way to hormonal and had a huge fight with dh:hair:,so i wont do it again

Sorry if i missed any congrats i just skimmed through as i dont have time to read all the posts :)

[KraizyDaizy]

Temp is way below cover-line today and spotting, so I am out I think that AF is here today.

Many blessings on those still waiting on their BFP this month!

[sweetsister]

Aw sorry Kraizydaizy :LotsofLove:

[amari]

Sorry, Kd. Ugh.

Sweetsister-glad you took a break from temping, did it help relax you? I ended up using preseed only. Did you use it too?

[HopeandDreamG]

Kraisy- so sorry! Here's to may!

Sweetsister- Great to have you back. I always think I should take a break from the internet and never seem to be able. Last month I had a chemical. Skipping April. Will get AF early may and will attempts again!

[dramabird]

Hi ladies. It's been crazy the past week and a half at my job, so I haven't been able to come online much.

MyDream, I'm so sorry about the chemical. Boy, having pg tests that are so sensitive is a mixed blessing these days ... it's great to hear early good news, but it's discouraging to have a mc that you would never have known about otherwise. But, dang it, May will be your month!!

KD, having AF show up stinks. :p But for some reason, I feel less discouraged at the beginning of my period than I do mid-2ww. I guess because, once AF arrives, you know you're only about two weeks from your next attempt. FX for May, for you, too!!

I can't wait to hear from Auroara ... she should be updating any time now, right?

You ladies are in my prayers!!

As for me right now, I'm 4dpo. We did FR this time instead of abstaining, with DH releasing and discarding twice a day. We got four attempts in: O-3 (p.m.), O-2 (p.m.), O-1 (p.m.) and and O (a.m.). I had crazy O pains on the day of ovulation itself and on O-2 days ... some discomfort on the right side both days, but definitely the most intense pains on the left side both days.

I used Zyrtec for a few days but no Benadryl ... and actually, I didn't really spot any EWCM this month, which is unusual for me. I also used RepHresh once, the evening of our O-3 attempt (a few hours after, so those spermies were up and gone). I resisted the urge to use it earlier during the next 72 hours, as that may have been what made last month fail. So by our O day attempt, it had been 60-some hours since RepHresh. *shrug*

I'm still not food journaling. It feels kind of weird not knowing where my levels are (sodium, in particular, is the area where I might be going over some days), but it also helps keep away the desperation of "I can't do this diet anymore!" because all of the recording and math was driving me nuts. I'm sure I'm staying below 40 g on protein, hopefully below 60 g of fat on most, if not all, days. Don't know on calories, but my weight is staying consistent (today I was 96.4 lbs.), so I must not be doing too badly on that.

It would be so great if this month was the one. I'll be testing on April 30 ... I'd sure take any prayers for a big fat pink positive!! :pray:

[auroara78]

I'm sure some already saw it on other posts, but just wanted to offically update the baby's a girl!!! Really healthy and they said she had good "fluid" :rofl: She's perfect and if I can figure out how to post pics, I'll post some pics of the U/S!

[amari]

Wow! That's great, Aurora! How exciting!

[myGirl]

Congratulations Auroara!!! Go buy some pink!!

KD- so sorry to hear about AF. It's such a bummer. We are still in the best months for ttc a girl, so don't give up!

Drama and ILindGurl- praying for a BFP for both of you!

[coocoobananas]

Yah yah yah! How exciting for you!!! Wow! How great does that feel?!?

[KraizyDaizy]

Congrats on your dream come true Auroara!!!!

[sweetsister]

Sorry, Kd. Ugh.

Sweetsister-glad you took a break from temping, did it help relax you? I ended up using preseed only. Did you use it too?

I used preseed this time and guaffennisen i used way more than last time too.
I was so happy to see your post you are preggers :cheer: what dpo did u get your positive test?

[sweetsister]

Oh how exciting Aurora !!!Congratulations xxx you must be over the moon :)

[ILindGurl]

thanks for the prayers, after 7 months -- I need them!

Aurora -- CONGRATULATIONS, so EXCITING!!!!:cheer:

[_Lala_]

Aurora congratulations!! How wonderful to hear those words! Enjoy all the pretty pink things!
Sorry about AF Kraizy...hate that witch! Time to think positive about May.
I haven't been on all week cos I've been sick as a dog. My parents took my ds1 n my nephew to Vietnam with them to visit the little boy they sponsor through World Vision. Amazing experience for them! They got back last Sat, they were away for 10 days (I missed him SO much!) My poor little man got travelers gastro though just before he came home n guess who he gave it to! Yep, me! I'm sure i got it because my immune n general condition is so poor at the moment. TMI: on Monday I vomited 18 times n had 21 bouts of diarrhoea in about 7 hours! Thought I was dying! I still feel nauseas n have diarrhoea, I've been housebound all week. The only good thing is I've been too sick to think about being in the 2ww. I think I'm 9dpo today. I don't have a good feeling about this cycle, but if I did get pg I'm worried being so sick n basically not eating for a week may have harmed baby, made it not implant, etc. I think I will test Monday at 11dpo n then Wed. My period will be due around Thu.
Hope everyone's traveling ok. Good luck to everyone else testing soon. FX for us all! Don't think I can do this for much longer!

[PeonyPrincess]

Lala, that sounds dreadful. Because it is going on for so long as well. As disgusting as it is, I would get a specimen checked if you don't get better soon. Some of those horrible gastro bugs can be treated. Hope your DS1 is feeling better. Keep up the gastrolyte!

[amari]

I used preseed this time and guaffennisen i used way more than last time too.
I was so happy to see your post you are preggers :cheer: what dpo did u get your positive test?

Thanks, sweetsister! I was pretty surprised. I did have cramping, and a pulling sensation on my bellybutton, but I thought it was due to the progesterone I was taking. I had a neg test 9dpo and a positive 10dpo. What dpo are you now?

Lala-Glad you are feeling better, that sounds awful. Good luck, the 2ww is almost over!

[HopeandDreamG]

Lala- sounds awful! Good news is it will sway pink.... How "sick" I think lol :)

[sweetsister]

Thanks, sweetsister! I was pretty surprised. I did have cramping, and a pulling sensation on my bellybutton, but I thought it was due to the progesterone I was taking. I had a neg test 9dpo and a positive 10dpo. What dpo are you now?

Lala-Glad you are feeling better, that sounds awful. Good luck, the 2ww is almost over!

I also have cramping that started today im 7dpo i think?And the pulling feeling and also twinges but i cant really read int it as i have it also on bfn cycles so?Wait and see...

[sweetsister]

Oh lala i hope your better soon,i was sick as a dog like that with ds2 dont worry it hurts you more than them and if anything i think it will help for swaying pink:)

[_Lala_]

Firstly, thanks for all your well wishes :awe: Well it's been a horrible week for me being so sick and in bed for the whole week. To make matters worse it was my ds1 first footy match for the year which means dragging my arse out of bed to be at his game for 8.30am on a Sunday - DP and I find it so hard getting up early on the w/e!Lol. But particularly hard for me this w/e. And then we had his birthday party in the afternoon which means 11 8yr old boys to deal with. Wasn't so bad as we had it at Strike bowling and had a host so we didn't have to do much. It was hard being on my feet all day and having to talk to people though! I've got zero energy. On top of having a very bad week I just haven't felt good about this cycle ~ no symptoms to speak of (though probably hard to pick up on cos all I could think about was my nausea), just had no vibe about being pg or girl thoughts like I did the previous cycle. I did have a pulling feeling yesterday which made me think perhaps that was something.

This morning I feel basically back to normal, don't think I will go near milk yet but feel pretty much fine. So today I am 11dpo I think, n time to test. Feeling crap about the whole thing n just thinking oh god, not another 4 whole weeks of this! So you can imagine my surprise when two little lines stare back at me after my morning poas!!! :holysheep: Think I still can't quite believe it! I didn't even tell my DP this morning, it's like I couldn't get the words out! I'm still half expecting AF to rear her ugly head in a couple of days. Its quite a determined little bean, im surprised it didnt come shooting out one of my orifices during my violent episodes!lol. So relieved this charade can come to an end n I can start to get back to normal living, n normal eating! Although now the charade becomes not drinking alcohol! Always the biggest giveaway that I'm pg! And we have all the family coming over on Wed, Anzac Day which is my ds1 actual bday, and is always a champagne/wine fest. I will have to be sneaky!
Sorry for long post but I find it cathartic to write on here n speak to you ladies - I've had a tough time of everything these last couple of weeks n I always look forward to seeing what you've written for the day, n you always make me feel better about the whole swaying thing. So thank you all! Feel the love...:bighug:

[coocoobananas]

You can always use your Castro thing as an excuse not to drink... Just say your still feeling the effects from it and don't even want alcohol!!??
Congratulations!!! So exciting for you!!!

[KraizyDaizy]

Wonderful new Lala!!! Congrats!!! Many blessings to you and your little pink bean!!!

[coocoobananas]

Oh gosh! Gastro!! Not Castro!! Darn you auto correct!!

[sweetsister]

http://dl5.glitter-graphics.net/pub/231/231195jh6hfx5lpo.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com) LALA!:)

[_Lala_]

Thanks girls, still can't quite believe it. It's weird walking around with this big secret that nobody knows! Hehe
Coocoo...Castro, literally made me lol!
Thanks Kraizy...you're lovely prayers always make me feel better, even though I'm not religious. You send out so much positivity into the universe you are going to be bowled over with so many beautiful things coming back at you, one of which I'm sure will be your little girl. Keep holding on. X

[HopeandDreamG]

Lala- congrats! How wonderful. I enjoy keeping the bfp between me, & dh at least for a few days!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Thanks girls, still can't quite believe it. It's weird walking around with this big secret that nobody knows! Hehe
Coocoo...Castro, literally made me lol!
Thanks Kraizy...you're lovely prayers always make me feel better, even though I'm not religious. You send out so much positivity into the universe you are going to be bowled over with so many beautiful things coming back at you, one of which I'm sure will be your little girl. Keep holding on. X

:celebrate::celebrate: Congratulations LaLa How Wonderful!!! :celebrate::celebrate:
You're :pregnant: Prego!!! WOOO HOOO :D

[amari]

lala-Woo hoo! Great news!! Congratulations!

[PeonyPrincess]

That is so friggin exciting Lala! What a rollercoaster month for you. As a fellow decent (didn't want to say 'big'!) drinker, I would either say you are still feeling a bit average and dehydrated from the gastro, or say the doc put you onto an antibiotic as a precaution and so you can't drink while you are taking it.
Had a laugh about it having managed to stay in there while you were so sick. My mum conceived me after a bout of gastro (her pill didn't work), so after 3 boys, I came along. Hope you have a wonderful and smooth sailing pregnancy.

[nks798]

congratulations, Lala and congratulations Auroara. I'm a little behind lol so excited for you both!

[KraizyDaizy]

Thanks Kraizy...you're lovely prayers always make me feel better, even though I'm not religious. You send out so much positivity into the universe you are going to be bowled over with so many beautiful things coming back at you, one of which I'm sure will be your little girl. Keep holding on. X

Thank you so much Lala. I pray you are right. Maybe my day will come...

[KraizyDaizy]

My OB nurse called to tell me she called in my Clomid but that I needed to got to a fertility specialist at this point, so basically this will be my last cycle of Clomid if I actually go get my script today. I just don't know what to do and we cannot afford a specialist so I am really think my dream just might be over....

[auroara78]

KD, ahh hun, I hope you can still get pregnant soon....

will you check out to see if your insurance covers anything for a specialist?

Major major hugs hunny :hugs:

[auroara78]

And congrats Lala!!!!!!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Kraisy- my first thought is just what auorara said. I'd call your insurance. Their are def specialists on insurance plans. Im sorry this has been so hard for you. ((((big hug)))

[amari]

KD-I agree with the others. I forget, what are you taking the clomid for? Do you not O on your own at all? Also, have you thought of seeing an accupuncturist?

[sweetsister]

Get out your magnifying glass
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/sunnysideupsarah/Positive006.jpg


http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/sunnysideupsarah/Positive004.jpg

[amari]

Woo hoo!!! I see it! How many dpo are you? Yay!!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

I don't even need one. I see it!!!! :P
I'm SUPER excited for you!!!

[sweetsister]

Woo hoo!!! I see it! How many dpo are you? Yay!!!!

I am i think 10 dpo because i didnt temp this cycle but i got 2 pos opk on the 13 and 14th then neg on the 15 so i guesstimated?:shrug:

[KraizyDaizy]

congrats sweet sister!!! many blessings on your pink dream come true!!!

[sweetsister]

:awe: thanks Kraizy,its your turn next:heart:

[KraizyDaizy]

:awe: thanks Kraizy,its your turn next:heart:

Maybe, but not really thinking it will happen for me again. I just need to be grateful for my 4 boys and move on I think.

[auroara78]

Omg congrats Sweet sister!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You'll need to post your sway asap!! :)

[auroara78]

Ah, KD, I really, really still hope it can happen for you.

[sweetsister]

Last cycle i nearly gave up Kraizy,which i think sometimes is what you need to do to get what your after..but i gave up temping and got a massage and went to a spa for a day before i oed and it helped being rested and less stress and gave up obsessing on the computer ,I didnt use it until about after i oed,i honestly think this helped me,i mean i tried everything else ,ive been at this a while and as soon as i gave up bang a bfp:)

[sweetsister]

Im with Amari about maybe seeing an accupuncturist too..that was my next move if nothing came of this cycle

[nks798]

sweetsister, I SEE IT!! ahh#%#$% congrats :)

[KraizyDaizy]

Is there really much hope when we have been trying for over two years now? I just don't see it anymore...

[_Lala_]

Sweet sister yay!! So awesome, congrats! I'm 12dpo I think, so our due dates will be close!
Kraizy I can't imagine how difficult this is for you, particularly after 2yrs of trying but I hate to see you give up! A friend of mine is a fertility specialist in natural medicine, she does herbs, traditional Chinese medicine n acupuncture etc n her clients have huge success with that. I would really consider going down that road. Perhaps this is something you could look into. Keep the faith Kraizy lady :awe:

[Butterfly Spirit]

Is there really much hope when we have been trying for over two years now? I just don't see it anymore...

I Say yes, there is hope, there can be miracles if you believe. Have you guys tried just having fun and not stressing about it? Saying a lot of prayer and just "playing"? :) I think RELAXATION is key over anything else. I've watch girl after girl on youtube either give up and not try or half try.. or just completely stop trying and it happens!

Have you tried Vitex yet? I was scared to try it because my period falls on the same day every month without fail so I was nervous it would screw my cycle up, but it worked. Just jump in with both feet with FAITH! :) Easier said than done after all this time but I believe you can do it!

[KraizyDaizy]

thanks Butterfly and Lala. You both are too sweet for you own good!

Congrats Butterfly on you pink bean.

Lala I am looking into options. I checked to see if the RE my doc referred me to is in my insurance network and she is, but infertility treatments are excluded from my plan, so not sure what my insurance will pay if anything. We will see, but at this point, my OB thinks it is my DH that is the problem, so I am not sure what they can do for that. Maybe we can do something to help on our own? If low count sways girls, I am not sure I want to make it better and get a boy, you know. I am so confused and so emotional...

[Butterfly Spirit]

thanks Butterfly and Lala. You both are too sweet for you own good!

Congrats Butterfly on you pink bean.

Lala I am looking into options. I checked to see if the RE my doc referred me to is in my insurance network and she is, but infertility treatments are excluded from my plan, so not sure what my insurance will pay if anything. We will see, but at this point, my OB thinks it is my DH that is the problem, so I am not sure what they can do for that. Maybe we can do something to help on our own? If low count sways girls, I am not sure I want to make it better and get a boy, you know. I am so confused and so emotional...

Oh no problem, don't ever lose hope! Keep trying and believe. I believe in the law of attraction! :)
I am newly pregnant as of Sat so I wish I knew if it was a pink bean, but I LOVED seeing that sentence!!!!!!
I really am feeling strongly like it is a girl though and I will have to fight for her!

[Gentle]

Hey - lots of lovely congratulations! Butterfly, Lala and Sweetsister - when are you due? There's going to be a little cluster around Christmas and New year I think!

Really feel for those still waiting - it is so, so tough. I would recommend acupuncture too. I credit it as being our answer to prayer to have a pregnancy that stuck. I still have it occasionally and it really settles my spirits and rebalances me.

[ILindGurl]

Congrats LaLa!

[ILindGurl]

When did you do the acupuncture? at the beginning of your cycle? does it matter the timing with your cycle? thanks.

[HopeandDreamG]

Sweetsister- congrats yay yay yay !!

Kraisy- I agree with sweetsister about giving up I think with that mindset being less focused is when it will happen. I swear last month even though ended in chemical i got the bfp bc I wasn't focusing so much on it bc I have the plan down pat and read other stuff besides ttc stuff, relaxed etc

[mydream]

Congrats sweetsis!!!!

[Ribbons]

Congrats sweetsister!! So excited for all these BFPS!

I am getting super nervous! Just got a high on my CBFM this morning, a whole 3 days early, yikes!! UGH, Vitex. Thankfully I had DH start FR early this month, just b/c I was worried about this very scenario.... and it looks like we'll just be able to squeeze in 7 FRs before 1st attempt on Sat (O-2).

Now I am second-guessing everything... and getting stressed out... tomorrow I am going to get a massage and try to relax! I've been on this diet so long that it's become almost second-nature, but the TRYING part is new... I hope I don't get myself too worked up!

[KraizyDaizy]

It's cd5 and I have not even picked up my last cycle of Clomid. What is wrong with me? Discouraged and broken I guess. I don't even have any OPKs, HPTs or monitor sticks and I don't think I am getting any. If I try this cycle it will be BBT alone more than likely.

Thanks so much ladies for being my sounding board. I really appreciate each and everyone of you and pray for you daily.

[mydream]

Good Luck Rainbow

Kraizy- I know you are feeling down....but GO get that clomid so you can go get that dd!! Cheering you on!!

[Gentle]

ILindGurl - I did acupuncture for several months so it wasn't a specific time of cycle - more just balancing out everything so my cycles were regular, I was ovulating, the lp was a reasonable length etc. There are acupuncture techniques that focus on specific needs but my practitioner takes the holistic approach and it totally worked for me.

[KraizyDaizy]

Picked up Clomid took first dose and so the journey continues...

[KraizyDaizy]

Picked up Clomid took first dose and so the journey continues...

[amari]

Yes, KD. It took me 2 years to get pregnant with my first. I feel the body is so strange. I had an oops pregnancy before I was married. Then dh and I tried for 2 years, including ivf, all failed. Then I did accpuncture and got pregnant within 6 wks. Then ds2 happened 1st month 1 1/2 years after 1st son. I would def recommend it!

[KraizyDaizy]

It took 1 1/2 yrs to get my ds3, so I guess 2 yrs isn't all that bad and I really should not complain. I mean I am blessed with 4 handsome sons. I am just impatient!

[dramabird]

Congratulations to all of you BFP-getters!!! Hopefully you have a strong trend going ... I'm on CD8 and planning to test next Monday.

Ribbons, you go, girl! I naturally have longer cycles, so I like that Vitex seems to bump O earlier ... it lets me get my next cycle going that much faster after a BFN.

Kraizy, I'm so sorry for what you're struggling with. You are in my prayers.

[KraizyDaizy]

thanks Dramabird! I really appreciate the prayers. If it is God's will, I will finally get my BFP in May or whenever He decides. The sooner the better since my patience is not very good these days LOL!!!

[mydream]

If it is God's will, I will finally get my BFP in May or whenever He decides. The sooner the better since my patience is not very good these days LOL!!!

right there with you!!

[KraizyDaizy]

So I am thinking this and next cycle will be it for me as far as the Clomid since it stays in your body for what 6 weeks or so? I am wanting suggestions on what I should do this cycle considering I am Oing with the Clomid but still not getting pregnant? I am really thinking it is my DH's counts, so that being said, what can we do to help this? As far as timing and our attempts how should we do it? I just want a baby now, so any advice you all could give is much appreciated.

Blessings for a happy belly day for all those who are preggers and girly vibes to all of us still chasing our pink dreams!!! AMEN!!!

[mydream]

Kraizy- what is dh doing FR? abstain?

[sweetsister]

So I am thinking this and next cycle will be it for me as far as the Clomid since it stays in your body for what 6 weeks or so? I am wanting suggestions on what I should do this cycle considering I am Oing with the Clomid but still not getting pregnant? I am really thinking it is my DH's counts, so that being said, what can we do to help this? As far as timing and our attempts how should we do it? I just want a baby now, so any advice you all could give is much appreciated.

Blessings for a happy belly day for all those who are preggers and girly vibes to all of us still chasing our pink dreams!!! AMEN!!!

Well i suggest using preseed ,i mean i did preseed and guaffenisen as the clomid made me so hormonal and moody i wasnt going to do it again,it was my 3rd cycle so i was determined,and instead of doing every day leading up til ovulation for 7 days in a row!!!silly? we did about bding closer to pos opk i think 4 or 5 days in a row and on the pos opk dAY and one after,so your sure to hit it!I would strongly suggest preseed:) and ditch the temping and rely on the +opks.I peeked at your chart and did you miss the day of +opk for swaying or by accident?I would definately hit those days before during and after.I dont know much about helping mens count i actually was starting to think my dh had the problem because we didt for so long but turns out it was just too many swaying factors i guess?
For me this will be my last pregnancy...sniff im 38 ...so i really only have the diet going for me,after ditching everything and adding some,but i just wanted to get pregnant so took the chance:)

[KraizyDaizy]

Kraizy- what is dh doing FR? abstain?

The last few cycles we have just been trying to DTD through O. Not FR or abstaining.

[KraizyDaizy]

Well i suggest using preseed ,i mean i did preseed and guaffenisen as the clomid made me so hormonal and moody i wasnt going to do it again,it was my 3rd cycle so i was determined,and instead of doing every day leading up til ovulation for 7 days in a row!!!silly? we did about bding closer to pos opk i think 4 or 5 days in a row and on the pos opk dAY and one after,so your sure to hit it!I would strongly suggest preseed:) and ditch the temping and rely on the +opks.I peeked at your chart and did you miss the day of +opk for swaying or by accident?I would definately hit those days before during and after.I dont know much about helping mens count i actually was starting to think my dh had the problem because we didt for so long but turns out it was just too many swaying factors i guess?
For me this will be my last pregnancy...sniff im 38 ...so i really only have the diet going for me,after ditching everything and adding some,but i just wanted to get pregnant so took the chance:)

The only thing I hate about Preseed it that it is supposed to sway boy and my CM does not seem to be dried up due to the Clomid, but maybe it would help. We used it before, but did not fall pregnant, so maybe I might get some this month.

As far as missing O day, I am not even sure FF is right about the day. We DTD at 1am on cd 15, so we missed O day by an hour. That day was just so busy and we could not fit it in until way late that night. I plan to DTD each day as soon as O gets close till day after O. Unless I hear that we should not do it this way.

[sweetsister]

The only thing I hate about Preseed it that it is supposed to sway boy and my CM does not seem to be dried up due to the Clomid, but maybe it would help. We used it before, but did not fall pregnant, so maybe I might get some this month.

As far as missing O day, I am not even sure FF is right about the day. We DTD at 1am on cd 15, so we missed O day by an hour. That day was just so busy and we could not fit it in until way late that night. I plan to DTD each day as soon as O gets close till day after O. Unless I hear that we should not do it this way.

Its not because your cm is dried up also,it is because clomid makes your cm that you have hostile and sperm dont survive,so guaffennesin will help the spermies up up there survive and the preseed will help along the immediate ones.

And being on clomid they dont even reccomend you temp as it gives you false temps,Take me for example i o always using FF temping on cd16 like clockwork,and when i used only opk this time and ditched temps i oed on cd18 2 day later,if i would have done ff i would have for sure stopped dtd and missed it.
I would dtd few days before you think you will o just in case it is dh you want to not abstain or frequent release and get the best ones:),then oday and until opk gives you a negative even that day to be covered,like the 2 days after you get a +opk,and i didnt jump and dump to i lay 15mins hips propped too i just remembered.

[KraizyDaizy]

Its not because your cm is dried up also,it is because clomid makes your cm that you have hostile and sperm dont survive,so guaffennesin will help the spermies up up there survive and the preseed will help along the immediate ones.

And being on clomid they dont even reccomend you temp as it gives you false temps,Take me for example i o always using FF temping on cd16 like clockwork,and when i used only opk this time and ditched temps i oed on cd18 2 day later,if i would have done ff i would have for sure stopped dtd and missed it.
I would dtd few days before you think you will o just in case it is dh you want to not abstain or frequent release and get the best ones:),then oday and until opk gives you a negative even that day to be covered,like the 2 days after you get a +opk,and i didnt jump and dump to i lay 15mins hips propped too i just remembered.

Interesting info on OPKs and temping on Clomid. I did not know you were not supposed to temp. It drives me crazy anyways, but I like to have scientific data. I guess I am just a visual person and like to see the dips and rises. But my O has been pretty much cd14-15, so I don't know about just doing OPK's cause I do them as well. I don't have any so I will have to get some. Do you use the digital ones? I think they are so much better than the sticks. Do you use a combo of both?

If Clomid makes CM hostile and that is the reason it sways girl, why would I want to add Preseed to make it more hospitable to both girl and boy sperm? I am just so terrified of getting another boy, but would be so happy as well. I think for sure my DH would never let me try again. How much do you use of the Preseed?

[amari]

KD-I agree with everything sweetsister said. I did preseed the cycle I got pregnant as well. I think it sways boy in terms that it gives the sperm better environment to get to the egg. But with our diet, and being on clomid, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Also, if you go to the preseed website, it has stats on boys and girls conceived using clomid, it does not show a sway towards boy. Also, I googled success stories from preseed and read a ton of them! There did not appear to be more boys born than girls. I would also make sure you are actually o'ing when you think you are and not later, because you can get a false positive on opk's if the clomid isn't out of your system. I did and starting dtd before I was actually o'ing. Luckily, I had dh keep fr'ing, and I kept doing the opk's and I didn't get a + again until cd19. Definitely dtd before during and after o day too! GL, fx for you!!

[KraizyDaizy]

I guess I will give the Preseed a try and keep DTD each day I guess. Thanks so much for helping me struggle to find my way...

[sweetsister]

I used up til the 1 last cycle but didnt conceive so this time i used 2/12 almost up to the 3 line with the preseed every time we bd.
And i suggest ditching the temps more to relax because it really is stressfull and controlling doing that you have to let go of the control and let mother nature do her job it is out of our hands,and enjoy making woopeee:) probably the most important,when it is mechanical for dh too and stressful it probably is the worst situation to conceive ..

[KraizyDaizy]

I used up til the 1 last cycle but didnt conceive so this time i used 2/12 almost up to the 3 line with the preseed every time we bd.
And i suggest ditching the temps more to relax because it really is stressfull and controlling doing that you have to let go of the control and let mother nature do her job it is out of our hands,and enjoy making woopeee:) probably the most important,when it is mechanical for dh too and stressful it probably is the worst situation to conceive ..

I was talking to DH this am about me not temping and he thinks it is a good idea. Of course he is already to try again even before O time. I don't want to stress him, so I am just going with it and will nudge him more when the time is just right. We are going to get the spermcheck home fertility test you can get at Walgreens and CVS pharmacies to see if further testing is even needed. Who knows he could be just fine LOL!!! Then the Preseed of course. Sage has also suggested it, as well as BD O-2 and O-1, so I guess I am all set. Just need OPKs as well since no temping this time. Which sticks the digital or both?

[Ribbons]

We are going to get the spermcheck home fertility test you can get at Walgreens and CVS pharmacies to see if further testing is even needed. Who knows he could be just fine LOL!!!

We did the spermcheck test and it worked for us - be sure to read all the directions! It has a crazy amount of steps! I felt like I was back in high school science lab, but then I am scientifically challenged - I don't know how ladies do the EGS stuff :)

Oops - don't know how that double-posted, sorry!

[KraizyDaizy]

We did the spermcheck test and it worked for us - be sure to read all the directions! It has a crazy amount of steps! I felt like I was back in high school science lab, but then I am scientifically challenged - I don't know how ladies do the EGS stuff :)

Oops - don't know how that double-posted, sorry!

I looked at the instructions online and thought oh my! When it the best time to do this test? AM PM or abstaining? and what did your test results say if you don't mind me asking?

[Ribbons]

We wanted a natural "baseline" - did it in the AM after a 2-3 day abstain (boy timing) but he had been on LR for a week, so that might have skewed the results slightly. He had a pretty strong test - it wasn't a super-dark solid line (wasn't darker than the test line) but it was definitely positive! I thought about doing it again after he was on LR and doing FR for awhile but I don't want to spend the $$ again, those tests aren't cheap.

[KraizyDaizy]

We wanted a natural "baseline" - did it in the AM after a 2-3 day abstain (boy timing) but he had been on LR for a week, so that might have skewed the results slightly. He had a pretty strong test - it wasn't a super-dark solid line (wasn't darker than the test line) but it was definitely positive! I thought about doing it again after he was on LR and doing FR for awhile but I don't want to spend the $$ again, those tests aren't cheap.

So you were trying to lower his count with LR? and I believe they are 39.99 where I live, so did not know if the box told you the best time to take the test.

What is a natural "baseline"?

[Ribbons]

Yep - trying to reduce his count, he has a pretty high sex drive naturally (which I assume translates to high testosterone/sperm count) so I am doing what I can to get his count down for sure!

I can't remember what it said about timing, I do know it said to do it after a 2-3 day abstain but I don't think it specified time of day.

[KraizyDaizy]

Yep - trying to reduce his count, he has a pretty high sex drive naturally (which I assume translates to high testosterone/sperm count) so I am doing what I can to get his count down for sure!

I can't remember what it said about timing, I do know it said to do it after a 2-3 day abstain but I don't think it specified time of day.

Okay, that is good to know, because of course as soon as we get it, I am going to want to test right then, but he needs to abstain, so I guess we will see how that goes.

[sweetsister]

kraizy i used the digital and the internet cheapies for ages and there is one brand that detects (for me) anyways the same as the digitals the other was very unreliable,but anyways im in europe so im not sure if they are from the uk but i got them off ebay from a medical supplier,which is important,they are early lh test strips calledEG-ENS they have been the best for me because they detected the same as the digitals but way cheaper and you get like 50 of them!I also got from a medical supplier the ultra early 10ml pregnancy tests 25 of them for like 3 pounds! and they detected pregnancy the same as FRER i did one of each a day to make sure:)
Your plan is shaping up good:luck::HH:

[KraizyDaizy]

kraizy i used the digital and the internet cheapies for ages and there is one brand that detects (for me) anyways the same as the digitals the other was very unreliable,but anyways im in europe so im not sure if they are from the uk but i got them off ebay from a medical supplier,which is important,they are early lh test strips calledEG-ENS they have been the best for me because they detected the same as the digitals but way cheaper and you get like 50 of them!I also got from a medical supplier the ultra early 10ml pregnancy tests 25 of them for like 3 pounds! and they detected pregnancy the same as FRER i did one of each a day to make sure:)
Your plan is shaping up good:luck::HH:

I was trying to find them but cannot. Can you send me the link to the strips?

[KraizyDaizy]

Picked up the last box of Preseed at CVS...

[sweetsister]

I was trying to find them but cannot. Can you send me the link to the strips?

Yeah it is from ebay uk so i dont know if they sell them in the states but maybe somes similar ..heres the linkhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260818060724?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
and the same company sells the ultra early pregnancy tests.

[amari]

KD_I used clearblue easy digitals and internet cheapies, (wondfo). Sounds like you have a great plan!

[KraizyDaizy]

I got the Preseed and it looks like it is in individual applicators. Do you have to use it all? can you somehow squeeze it into another container to keep what you don't use?

Well I am torn about temping. I have been doing it for so long that I am not sure I can stop. I am even thinking of starting back in the morning. What to do, what to do...

[sweetsister]

I got the Preseed and it looks like it is in individual applicators. Do you have to use it all? can you somehow squeeze it into another container to keep what you don't use?

Well I am torn about temping. I have been doing it for so long that I am not sure I can stop. I am even thinking of starting back in the morning. What to do, what to do...

Lol kraizy, you also have temped for so long and it hasnt been working,,right?Why dont you temp after you think you oed and got +opks,because you really need to relax and let go for your own good hun:)Just get a plan than stop thinking of ttc until after you o at least.
If you think you want to then do it, i just really think it is backfiring on you.
And the preseed just do a little less than they say on the directions,i dont think you can reuse it,i wouldnt.but mine cam in a tube with separate applicators,is that the same?

[_Lala_]

I agree with Sweet sister. You've done all this temping for 2 years I would drop it immediately. Not only is it less stressful but you've temped for all this time and got bfn, how helpful is it? I'm also a big believer of trying something different to get different results - I'm not saying you're going to get pg because you're not temping but it will only help relax you and alleviate that stress associated with constant temping. The opks I used were frer ones and also clear blue digital ones. I would use the frer early on and when I got a fade in or thought I was ovulating soon I would use a digital so I could be absolutely sure, it took the stress out of it for me to just see a smiley rather than trying to read how dark the lines were. I'm so happy that you're still on the ttc journey Kraizy!

As for me, I have these ongoing cramps like I'm getting my period, and am scared every time I go to the toilet that I'm going to see blood. Do you think it's normal to feel cramping in early pregnancy? It's got me worried!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Lala cramping is scary as hell, but extremely normal because our uteruses have to STREEEETCH! ;)

However do pay attention to the frequency and intensity though, and if you get worried, call your doc... or doc on call!

[PeonyPrincess]

KD, GL! I was like you and it was such a habit to temp every morning. I don't miss it now! How about not doing it this month and seeing how you feel? You can always start it again another month, but we hope you won't have to worry about it as you will get a BFP!

Lala, heaps of ladies say that exact same thing...they think AF is coming and keep checking. Rest assured it is likely just your body starting to adjust to the idea of building a home for your baby.

[sweetsister]

Lala,ive got cramps too now they are on and off all day totally normal,just baby settling in still.and for me every pregnancy im older and i feel more,or its harder:)

[Butterfly Spirit]

Lala,ive got cramps too now they are on and off all day totally normal,just baby settling in still.and for me every pregnancy im older and i feel more,or its harder:)

I got a BAD cramp on Sat directly after I got my BFP it freaked the crap out of me, but I reminded myself that my uterus has to grow and stretch. And with both babies I did call the on call physician at night and told them it felt like I was being stabbed in the stomach and thought I was miscarrying.. so much stuff happens in there and has to happen before they are done cooking. However, we worry soo very much about every little thing!

[_Lala_]

I know with my ds2 I had a lot of cramping and pain that started around 20weeks and lasted throughout pg, and my dr said that was just stretching and that you often feel that with subsequent pregnancies because your body has done it before. I'm just a bit worried because I've never had cramping so early before. When I have a check up with my gp next week I will mention it to him, im sure he'll say its nothing, its just got me rattled. Makes me feel better that others have them too though. X

[KraizyDaizy]

Okay, so it must be in the cards that I drop the temping because my thermometer flaked on me this am and did not work right. Would not give me a temp at all, so it's fate I think. I know you guys are right about me stressing myself way too much. I am not going to temp, but I will still use FF for recording other stuff I guess. The digital tests are so expensive. I did not even realize it. My DH bought the last ones and did not tell me he spent like 45 bucks on them! I am not sure I can afford them this month, but will see about the sticks for sure. Maybe I can get a generic digital OPK's?

Again thanks so all who have posted. I have read all the posts but do not have a moment right now to respond to them all. You are all so special to me, I hope you know it!!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

I know with my ds2 I had a lot of cramping and pain that started around 20weeks and lasted throughout pg, and my dr said that was just stretching and that you often feel that with subsequent pregnancies because your body has done it before. I'm just a bit worried because I've never had cramping so early before. When I have a check up with my gp next week I will mention it to him, im sure he'll say its nothing, its just got me rattled. Makes me feel better that others have them too though. X

When in doubt google! But don't search too much! ;)
I know because I looked it up with DS#2
I felt cramping, like my period was gonna start.. and then after my bfp it just continued! But I looked it up.. and it's completely normal! phew!!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Okay, so it must be in the cards that I drop the temping because my thermometer flaked on me this am and did not work right. Would not give me a temp at all, so it's fate I think. I know you guys are right about me stressing myself way too much. I am not going to temp, but I will still use FF for recording other stuff I guess. The digital tests are so expensive. I did not even realize it. My DH bought the last ones and did not tell me he spent like 45 bucks on them! I am not sure I can afford them this month, but will see about the sticks for sure. Maybe I can get a generic digital OPK's?

Again thanks so all who have posted. I have read all the posts but do not have a moment right now to respond to them all. You are all so special to me, I hope you know it!!!!

That sounds fabulous! I was always interested in temping.. but I thought, if I start this.. I will scare the hell out of hubby and he won't ever BD again, for real! But anyways, I think it's a GREAT move since you are constantly reminded every morning when you start your day that you are TTC!
I only buy digitals to confirm a cheap positive preg test. I'm lucky the cheap opks work for me.
Best of luck sweet lady!

[amari]

Hey, girls! I had my first apt and u/s today and found out we're having twins! Totally in shock right now!

[sweetpea]

OMG!!! Amari!!! Congratulations!!! Ahhh, I am so thrilled for you!!! WOW!!! :omg:

(sorry for popping into this thread, I just saw this right away on the right hand side as the forums came back up!)

[coocoobananas]

What's this now?!? That is crazy!! I am trying to stay away from this site but how can I with news like that!! Crap, now I'll have to come back and find out if they're girls! They better well be;) really cool amari! Was this cause of clomid or does it run in your family?!?

[Butterfly Spirit]

Amari, that is just SO neat! I have my first u/s for May 7 at a high risk clinic. I am EXCITED! I am also very curious to find out if I have one or two in there since my ghost line on my test happened a week before my period was due!
I already warned DH that I took a fertility supplement, and it could be two, ya never know! haha
At that point he was numb.
Do you think it was the vitex or do you have a family history of twins?

[nuthinbutpink]

The natural incidence of twins is one in eighty-nine births.

About two thirds of all twins are fraternal.
Half of these pairs are boy/girl; one fourth are girl/girl; and one fourth are boy/boy.

So, you have a 75% chance of at least one girl, Amari!

[Butterfly Spirit]

The natural incidence of twins is one in eighty-nine births.

About two thirds of all twins are fraternal.
Half of these pairs are boy/girl; one fourth are girl/girl; and one fourth are boy/boy.

So, you have a 75% chance of at least one girl, Amari!

That is just FABULOUS!!!!!!! :running:

Oh I didn't ask.. are they identical or fraternal!?

[sweetsister]

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What a surprise!!!:) how are you feeling?Any extreme pregnancy symptoms or are you o.k?

[amari]

Thanks girls! Butterfly and sweetsister, they don't know if they're identical or fraternal, they said not until birth. (I guess if you had one of each you would know before!) I am just looking really pregnant and hungry every couple hours. The morning sickness is starting to kick in. I was on meds for m/s with both of my sons the entire pregnancy until birth, so this should be interesting with 2 in there! I actually had more symptoms at this point with each of my boys, so we'll see!

I was not on vitex, butterfly, but clomid.

[ynwa]

Amari how wonderful,so pleased for you,yay:.)

[Mochagirl]

Wow, amari - congrats. Being a twin Mommy is pretty special - you'll love it!

[KraizyDaizy]

Amari I am so happy for you!!! Twin girls I bet!!!!! So I am so hoping my Clomid and Pre-seed do the trick for me too. Tell me how you took the clomid, how you used the Preseed and the DTD timing?

[_Lala_]

Amari WOW!! I bet you're still in shock, lol! Can't wait to find out what they are! Chances are you'll have at least one girl in there! No wonder you've been hungry! How far along are you now? :awe:

[_Lala_]

Ok saw your ticker n your 6 weeks...how come you had an u/s so early? I'd love to have one that early to check everything is fine. It seems like such a long wait to 12-14 weeks to see bubby!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Ok saw your ticker n your 6 weeks...how come you had an u/s so early? I'd love to have one that early to check everything is fine. It seems like such a long wait to 12-14 weeks to see bubby!

Agreed! With DS#1 I had one scan at 22 weeks and then another one right before I delivered!
:)

[amari]

I had an early u/s because according to my lmp I am a little over 7 wks and I am going out of town. I have a history of extreme morning sickness, so needed to have my first apt before going out of town so they could prescribe the anti-nausea meds in case it gets bad while I'm away. It was just my routine lst apt and they do an u/s for that.

Totally in shock, didn't sleep at all last night.

KD-I did preseed for maybe 3 times we bd'd. I filled the app to the 2ml line, maybe a touch more. You can look at my sway, but we dtd all days leading up to +opk except missed one b/c dh just couldn't, he did fr that day though. Some days he fr and we dtd. I got +opk around 6pm one night, we dtd around 11pm, then I still had +opk the next morning and we dtd again. CAn't remember off the top of my head if we dtd again that night, but I'm pretty sure we did. Let me know if that answers your questions!

[mydream]

WOW WOW Amari-- I am just catching up!!!
This is amazing news.... congrats

[atomic sagebrush]

HOLY SH--- I just saw your siggie amari!!! Huge congrats!! Wow that's exciting!!

On Clomid the odds are that they're fraternal but you never know (actually, the odds are always that they're fraternal, ID twins are unusual!)

[atomic sagebrush]

The natural incidence of twins is one in eighty-nine births.

About two thirds of all twins are fraternal.
Half of these pairs are boy/girl; one fourth are girl/girl; and one fourth are boy/boy.

So, you have a 75% chance of at least one girl, Amari!

Some studies have found that statistically there are more girl twins than boy twins (some other studies haven't been able to verify this) so the odds may even be better than that. http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/14/12/3120.full (this study is harder than heck to understand but has a lot of good links at the end)

[begonia]

Wow Amari, how exciting!!!! FX you get your :XX::XX:

[HappyMedium]

I am 2dpo today and trying for our girl.. Od on the 26th after a week of cramping..and a VERY painful O..couldn't tell which side I was Oing from...Can't wait to test!!!!!

[amari]

HOLY SH--- I just saw your siggie amari!!! Huge congrats!! Wow that's exciting!!

On Clomid the odds are that they're fraternal but you never know (actually, the odds are always that they're fraternal, ID twins are unusual!)

I know! It's crazy! I didn't sleep at all last night! I'm guessing the fraternal too! I o'd from the left side too! I never thought I would have 4 kids!

[KraizyDaizy]

Well girls.... God had another plan. I got to use my first FR today and it was positive. Still sort of in shock.

Congrats on the BFP!!!

[KraizyDaizy]

I had an early u/s because according to my lmp I am a little over 7 wks and I am going out of town. I have a history of extreme morning sickness, so needed to have my first apt before going out of town so they could prescribe the anti-nausea meds in case it gets bad while I'm away. It was just my routine lst apt and they do an u/s for that.

Totally in shock, didn't sleep at all last night.

KD-I did preseed for maybe 3 times we bd'd. I filled the app to the 2ml line, maybe a touch more. You can look at my sway, but we dtd all days leading up to +opk except missed one b/c dh just couldn't, he did fr that day though. Some days he fr and we dtd. I got +opk around 6pm one night, we dtd around 11pm, then I still had +opk the next morning and we dtd again. CAn't remember off the top of my head if we dtd again that night, but I'm pretty sure we did. Let me know if that answers your questions!

I do have a question about your clomid dosage and the days you took it?

[amari]

Well girls.... God had another plan. I got to use my first FR today and it was positive. Still sort of in shock.

Congrats!!

KD-I took 100mg cd5-9.

[HopeandDreamG]

Amari- I am sooooo happy for you! I replied on the other tread and wanted to make sure you saw!!! I guarantee those are girls. I just know it!!!!

[HappyMedium]

JJC Congrats on your BFP!!!

Amari...congrats on Twins....what a blessing. I would have to buy hats ahead of time to cover up my inevitable bald spot!

[HappyMedium]

OMG amari twins!!!! So excited for you:). Congratulations.

Just got to read your siggy and I was about to move on as well with my 4 boys...BUT I realized that everything else at in life that I pursued aside from my degree and my family has failed so I must be doing what God intended me to do...bring life. If He will give it to me then I will use the ability. God Bless!

[sweetsister]

I had an early u/s because according to my lmp I am a little over 7 wks and I am going out of town. I have a history of extreme morning sickness, so needed to have my first apt before going out of town so they could prescribe the anti-nausea meds in case it gets bad while I'm away. It was just my routine lst apt and they do an u/s for that.

Totally in shock, didn't sleep at all last night.

KD-I did preseed for maybe 3 times we bd'd. I filled the app to the 2ml line, maybe a touch more. You can look at my sway, but we dtd all days leading up to +opk except missed one b/c dh just couldn't, he did fr that day though. Some days he fr and we dtd. I got +opk around 6pm one night, we dtd around 11pm, then I still had +opk the next morning and we dtd again. CAn't remember off the top of my head if we dtd again that night, but I'm pretty sure we did. Let me know if that answers your questions!

Hey Amari what kind of meds do they give you for anti nausea?And do they work?
I had one pregnancy where i was extremely ill and the meds did a little bit,and another and the meds did nothing for me,so i was thinking it might have been different but cant remember the name?

[amari]

Hey Amari what kind of meds do they give you for anti nausea?And do they work?
I had one pregnancy where i was extremely ill and the meds did a little bit,and another and the meds did nothing for me,so i was thinking it might have been different but cant remember the name?

I take Zofran. It doesn't completely take it away but it makes it so I am just nauseas and not vomiting most of the time. I haven't started it yet this pregnancy, holding out! What did you take?

[sweetsister]

I take Zofran. It doesn't completely take it away but it makes it so I am just nauseas and not vomiting most of the time. I haven't started it yet this pregnancy, holding out! What did you take?

Try the seabandz wrist pulse points for seasickness,i get them here at the pharmacy or travel store ,i found they helped me more than the meds,i cant remember what my doc gave me i will have to ask her when i see her soon,but with my first pregnancy i got meds from a specialist in barcelona where i was travelling at the time,and they worked quite well i just dont remember the name!!!So i guess ill never find out:(
I get so sick i cant stand im only ok when i lie down,which is impossible with 2 kids..

[sweetsister]

OOh look at your little sweetpeas Amari,mines just a poppyseed:) i luv that ticker

[amari]

Sweetsister-I did try those seabands, will have to try again. I had my first bout of actually getting sick this morning. Once I started eating for the day it felt a lot better. This was not the case with my last two pregnancies. Hopefully it stays this way the whole time!

Too bad you don't remember the name, that stinks.

[pearl]

HUGE Congrats to Amari !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TWINS are soooooooooo COOL!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope you will get two girls at once:) I used clomid too just 50mg, I will have my us next week, i feel some ms already :(

[nks798]

congrats amari, on the twins!! most twins I know are either girls or girl/boy.. yey :)

[NCBeachyGrl]

Just wanted to pop in and say good luck to all!

[HopeandDreamG]

Btw: I'm over in the may thread!

Kraisy- how are u?