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    I hope ICSI is used. All that spinning, I would not want to rely on tired sperm getting the job done.

    They look for the healthiest moving/looking sperm. Types of movement like you read on others sites to "determine" males from females is totally false.

    Actually, there's a post where I asked Carole about it.

    I see what you're saying but sperm can only take so much and still be able to do the job!
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    I've read that ICSI skews pretty significantly XX, so I would be afraid to use it even with a spun sample.

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    4devochki I would not risk not doing ICSI, there have only been a handful here who have used IVF to fertilise and results have not always been great. My first cycle I had a zero fertilisation of 9 eggs and someone recently had 18 eggs and zero fert. We both used rescue ICSI, I had 5 fertilise all abnormal and the other one got 1 normal out of the 18, which then resulted in a BFN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4devochki View Post
    I've read that ICSI skews pretty significantly XX, so I would be afraid to use it even with a spun sample.
    ICSI is recommended with PGD anyway. If sperm cannot move because they are tired, you get zero fert. Gender is 50/50 no matter how you fertilize. And more boys are born via IVF so I don't think that holds true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4devochki View Post
    I've read that ICSI skews pretty significantly XX, so I would be afraid to use it even with a spun sample.
    There have been several of us with a more male, or all male dominant spilt, that I can think of. To the point where I thought it might be skewing the results in a male favor. I haven't personally seen that happen.
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    Dr P- any response from your lab regarding the possibility of reproducing a trial??
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    Curious too!

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    Bumping...
    8 6 wishing for a
    Cycle 1 HRC in June 2011- cancelled cycle, no response at all.
    Cycle 2 at SART start stims Oct 10th Another cancelled cycle. No response.
    Cycle 3 at SART, started stims Dec 31st, cancelled AGAIN.
    Cycle 4 Donor eggs in South Africa May 2012, freezing and shipping to USA for PGD
    FET- 19th July- NT (only 2 normals, both boys)
    Cycle 5 Last shot- donor eggs at Genesis- Cyprus using his sperm sort, Jan 2013 BFN
    FET Feb 2013 BFP Miscarriage @ 6 wks.
    FET June 2013. On metaformin now for Insulin resistance. Mental health starting to border on insanity now. BFN
    FET July 2013. Last embie BFN

    Cycle 6 Really truly last shot- Donor eggs HRC, planned all freeze Feb, 7XX frozen immune treatment for me
    FET May 2014 BFP Miscarriage @ 8 weeks
    FET Nov 2014 BFP Miscarriage @ 12 weeks
    FET Oct 2015 BFP Blighted ovum confirmed @ 8 weeks. Miscarriage.

    SURROGACY!!!!! FET 1xx Feb 4th BFP, HB seen

    My precious baby girl arrived Oct 19th 2016

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    Bumping again....
    8 6 wishing for a
    Cycle 1 HRC in June 2011- cancelled cycle, no response at all.
    Cycle 2 at SART start stims Oct 10th Another cancelled cycle. No response.
    Cycle 3 at SART, started stims Dec 31st, cancelled AGAIN.
    Cycle 4 Donor eggs in South Africa May 2012, freezing and shipping to USA for PGD
    FET- 19th July- NT (only 2 normals, both boys)
    Cycle 5 Last shot- donor eggs at Genesis- Cyprus using his sperm sort, Jan 2013 BFN
    FET Feb 2013 BFP Miscarriage @ 6 wks.
    FET June 2013. On metaformin now for Insulin resistance. Mental health starting to border on insanity now. BFN
    FET July 2013. Last embie BFN

    Cycle 6 Really truly last shot- Donor eggs HRC, planned all freeze Feb, 7XX frozen immune treatment for me
    FET May 2014 BFP Miscarriage @ 8 weeks
    FET Nov 2014 BFP Miscarriage @ 12 weeks
    FET Oct 2015 BFP Blighted ovum confirmed @ 8 weeks. Miscarriage.

    SURROGACY!!!!! FET 1xx Feb 4th BFP, HB seen

    My precious baby girl arrived Oct 19th 2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Potter View Post
    I read the article. It is well written. It seems to provide sufficient detail for us to try to reproduce it. I have forwarded it to my laboratory team (Charlotte Khoury and Barry Behr Barry Behr, PhD, HCLD | Staff | About HRC ) to have them examine it and see if they feel that we can create a trial. I remain skeptical though.

    My other comments on the trial are:
    1. It is very small
    2. The outcome that they are measuring (FISH results) is not the actual outcome that we care about (i.e. the gender ratio of live born normal babies or even embryos). It seems odd that would not have carried it one step further and shown that using sperm treated in this manner also changes the gender ratio of the resulting embryos.
    3. The shots that the authors take at MicroSort safety are completely groundless and obviously motivated by their desire to discredit their competitor there on Cyprus.
    4. If it does work, it does not work for the reasons that they speculate on in the article. Not buying the ‘difference in mass’ story that they are trying to sell.
    Bumping again... What did Charlotte and Barry think??
    8 6 wishing for a
    Cycle 1 HRC in June 2011- cancelled cycle, no response at all.
    Cycle 2 at SART start stims Oct 10th Another cancelled cycle. No response.
    Cycle 3 at SART, started stims Dec 31st, cancelled AGAIN.
    Cycle 4 Donor eggs in South Africa May 2012, freezing and shipping to USA for PGD
    FET- 19th July- NT (only 2 normals, both boys)
    Cycle 5 Last shot- donor eggs at Genesis- Cyprus using his sperm sort, Jan 2013 BFN
    FET Feb 2013 BFP Miscarriage @ 6 wks.
    FET June 2013. On metaformin now for Insulin resistance. Mental health starting to border on insanity now. BFN
    FET July 2013. Last embie BFN

    Cycle 6 Really truly last shot- Donor eggs HRC, planned all freeze Feb, 7XX frozen immune treatment for me
    FET May 2014 BFP Miscarriage @ 8 weeks
    FET Nov 2014 BFP Miscarriage @ 12 weeks
    FET Oct 2015 BFP Blighted ovum confirmed @ 8 weeks. Miscarriage.

    SURROGACY!!!!! FET 1xx Feb 4th BFP, HB seen

    My precious baby girl arrived Oct 19th 2016

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