Thread: To IUI or Not? TTC-Boy
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May 15th, 2012, 02:01 PM #11
I know, I am worried about the breastfeeding too. I am going to try and make up for it though with extra protein/nutrients. I really have been eating very little protein the last few years, just from cheese and pasta and ice cream/pb. I have rarely been eating beans or eggs as much. Ideally, I'd wait a bit, but age-wise DH says ifwe are doing 1 more kid, it's now or never kind of thing and I do want one more regardless of gender. DD#3 is 2 months now and only nursing 1 time at night. and 7 times during the day. She'll be 6-7months when we start TTCing and nursing 6 times during the day. It's still a lot, but I am definitely trying to eat much better protein/healthy fats than I was. We'll see
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May 15th, 2012, 02:08 PM #12
I know, it's what is making me go back and forth so much. I figure if I am doing the diet/supps and we do IUI and maybe a natural attempt too, we'll be in good shape. It seems more folks think IUI could only help. I think the diet., etc. would be making my whole body and reproductive system more boy friendly so it's not just worrying about making my vag./cervix a more boy friendly environment. I hope it's doing something for my uterus as well.
In some ways maybe this will be a good experiment to see if someone who does a boy friendly sway but with IUI gets a girl or boy.
I feel like I see more IUI's result in boys too, but I am thinking it's maybe because it's usually the couple's first baby which I think I've read is more likely a boy and also like AS would probably say when you are exploring fertility help you're probably eating really healthy and getting in shape too. So I guess it's more of a correlation and not cause/effect, but it'd be nice if it was for my case
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May 15th, 2012, 09:09 PM #13Swaying Advice Coach
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Yes, the washed sperm are capacitated and ready to fertilize an egg, so you place a large amount of ready-to-fertilize sperm close to the egg right at the critical time. The docs also add some glucose solution to make the sperm very active (which may also sway blue!)
We don't totally know HOW blood sugar sways, if it's before conception or after conception (by improving the environment for XY babies to grow and implant) or both. It can't hurt and may help you to follow the HE Diet with IUI.
While I do think that for the most part, you bypass a lot of what does the swaying by going IUI (vaginal environment, cervix, and the rate at which sperm capacitate) the good news is, the safest boy supps will only help you conceive and that's best for getting pg with IUI and for swaying blue as well!!!! Questions?? Check out the NEW and improved Complete Index !!!
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May 15th, 2012, 09:16 PM #14Swaying Advice Coach
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I don't think it's a correlation tho. I think it really DOES sway blue and not just a little bit. Most people who do IUI are doing so for fertility reasons (low sperm count and/or hostile CM) which tend to sway pink, and/or were also on Clomid which sways pink. That more boys are still being conceived, I think demonstrates that the IUI sways independently of any other factor.
Also, several of the timing studies did Clomid + natural conception with cutoff for TTC pink, and did IUI at ovulation for TTC blue. Some of these studies reported 80% effectiveness or even higher. Since we have other very well done studies where timing was proved not to sway (with even slighlty more girls than boys conceived O-1 and O day), logic dictates that if timing doesn't sway, but Clomid + cutoff vs. IUI yields such drastically different gender ratio, it simply has to be the Clomid vs. IUI that's really doing the swaying.!!! Questions?? Check out the NEW and improved Complete Index !!!
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May 16th, 2012, 04:29 PM #16
Does anyone know if there is a study out there that shows IUI rates of boy/girl with gender??
This is tough, I keep not being sure if I should skip making the sperm go through the vagina/cervix.
I am planning to have a very friendly boy environment with diet., supps, and then the cough syrup, maybe also preseed.
With IUI they are all getting in there (uterus) together so then I am only relying on my uterus environment and the blood sugar which as AS says we don't know how it works.
"AS", you mentioned if I do IUI I am taking a lot of the work of my sway out of the equation, that's hard because in some ways I feel like then I have it less in my control, and therefore it almost feels like less of a chance to get my DG, you know what I mean?
I do feel like I could get a boy doing IUI because that is how I got my first, but I also know my diet and weight has changed since when I got pregnant with my son and has became so LE. So it makes me think IUI had nothing to do with me getting my son, it was all my diet and that is how I've gotten my 3 girls, all diet.
Do you really think it's better to do the IUI than natural while still doing all the boy stuff leading up?
Sorry for all the questions and I know I just have to go with my gut, I think because there is no concrete studies that I know of about this, my head is second guessing.
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May 16th, 2012, 05:01 PM #17
AS, are those Clomid vs. IUI posted somewhere? And do you know if the HCG trigger shot they give before the IUI sways?
I know I can tell them I don't want to do the CLomid, but they will have me do the trigger shot so they know when to do the IUI. Thank you
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ScienceDirect.com - International Congress Series - Unbalanced sex ratio in newborns obtained by intrauterine inseminations
This study found 3.4 boys for every 1 girl conceived via IUI. I WISH we could get the full text because the graphs look super intriguing but it's $$$. There are other studies out there (both cows and humans) and some that claim the opposite as well of course.
the Clomid vs. IUI is somewhere on the site but I can't find it right now - does someone know where it is??
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They all get into the uterus together anyway. Both X and Y are all up in there mixed together, as far as we know.
You can still do cough syrup, diet, supps and they may very well all help. The sperm still have to make a journey from the uterus to the Fallopian tubes to the egg and there is a lot of room to influence the process.
I have no way to know which is best, but I do know that a couple people have had great HE Diet blue sways that ~should~ have worked and still gotten opposites, so my thinking is, if we can get a 3.4 to 1 ratio with IUI, then add in diet, supps, cough syrup, surely that has to be a good thing.!!! Questions?? Check out the NEW and improved Complete Index !!!
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May 17th, 2012, 02:30 PM #20
Sheesh I'm totally doing an IUI next time if it's 3.4 to 1
Along those lines though, if IUI in and of itself sways boy, I wonder why MicroSort wasn't more successful for Y sorts then? You would think the sort plus the inherent tendency of IUI to sway boy would have made their boy efforts MORE successful than girl, when the opposite was true.
n710, I'd go with whatever worked for you -in this case IUI- in the past! And FWIW I love, love, love PB and vanilla ice cream. Yum.
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